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The National Trust has more than four million members. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
It's Britain's largest landowner. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
As English as cream teas... | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
or is it? | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
Because it all began in Wales, | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
where it continues to look after | 0:00:18 | 0:00:19 | |
the treasures of this beautiful country. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
But I want to find out what the future holds | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
for this guardian of our shared past. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
Well, there we are. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
That's what I call a classic National Trust property. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
One of the great stately homes of - | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
ha-ha, I nearly said England - | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
of Wales. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:48 | |
It was built by successive Lords | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
and Barons and Marquises | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
until, in the 1970s, | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
it simply became too expensive for them to look after. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
But... | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
if they couldn't manage it... | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
how can National Trust Wales expect to? | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
To find out, I'm going to investigate Plas Newydd, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
on the island of Anglesey, North West Wales, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
once the family home of the Marquis of Anglesey. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
We're actually quite a long way | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
from the fantasy of Downtown Abbey. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
I'll be looking at some intriguing fine art. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
It's not just a house for connoisseurs, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
it's also a house for nosey parkers. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
I want to find out how this place is run... | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
I wouldn't like to be the cleaner in here. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
..and investigate how they intend to tackle | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
this mansion's challenges. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
The first thing that confronts me | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
is a monument from the deep past. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
5,000 years ago, | 0:01:57 | 0:01:58 | |
a Neolithic chieftain | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
decided that this extraordinary place, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
with its spectacular views was the ideal place to be buried | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
and put this cromlech here. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
And in fact, it was only 600 years ago | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
that somebody decided it should be called the "Plas Newydd". | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
So "new" in "new palace", | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
which is what that means, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:22 | |
is a relative term here. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
The original building was put up in medieval times. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
It's been rebuilt and remodelled over the centuries, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
including major works by the great 18th century architect | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
James Wyatt. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
To get a handle on all this, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
I'm meeting property manager Nerys Jones. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
And this is the main Gothic hall. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
This is the first place people would come to be impressed | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
when they'd come in as visitors. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
Well, I'm impressed. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:52 | |
It's got Tudor foundations. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
What you see really then, is an 18th century building, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
but it's had turrets and towers added here and there. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
Basically, what we're looking at | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
is a house that was lived in by a family | 0:03:04 | 0:03:05 | |
with different Marquises and different Lords, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
coming along at various stages | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
and adding bits to it. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
They'd add their own stamp, according to their taste. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
Right. And what's this through here? | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
'And there's a lot of taste to cover in 600 years, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
'which is the challenge here. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:22 | |
'I'm about to be introduced, however, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
'to the man who really put the house and the family and North West Wales | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
'at the centre of world affairs.' | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
And here we see the first Marquis. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
'Henry William Paget became the first Lord Anglesey in 1815 | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
'as a reward for his bravery | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
'at the battle of Waterloo.' | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
He was hit by grapeshot | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
and he turned to the Duke of Wellington. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
He said, "By God, Sir, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
"I've lost my leg." | 0:03:50 | 0:03:51 | |
Duke of Wellington turned and looked and said, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
"By God, Sir, so you have," | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
and went on surveying the battle. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
'Thanks to Lord Anglesey, however, | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
'the Pagets became such a powerful family | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
'that the Plas Newydd was merely a country retreat | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
'for successive Marquises. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
'That was until the end of the Victorian Era, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
'when Henry Cyril Paget inherited the estate.' | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
There we are, that's the fifth Marquis here, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
looking utterly magnificent. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
He was the sort of black sheep of the family because | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
he was a very glittery individual | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
and he inherited the estate and the title, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
and an income of £250,000 a year, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
which is equivalent of about 25 million a year, which he spent. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
The first to really call Plas Newydd his home, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
the fifth Marquis set about indulging his interest in jewellery, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:53 | |
pink poodles and perfumed cars. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
He built a 150-seat theatre here. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
He'd give free shows for all the local people. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
He spent an absolute fortune on cars, clothes and entertaining. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:06 | |
And after spending half a billion, Henry was declared bankrupt in 1904. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:11 | |
This was a significant moment for this house and his family, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
and eventually for the Trust, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
because his creditors organised a 40-day sale | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
in which the treasures were sold off. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
The house became less of a showpiece and more of a family home. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
'By 1976, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
'the seventh Marquis, Henry Paget, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
'could no longer afford to maintain Plas Newydd. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
'He handed it over to the care of the Trust. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
'He continued to play an active part in how it was run | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
'until his death in 2013. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
'Now that responsibility falls on Nerys. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
'This is a lovely place in a lovely setting, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
'but it could also be argued that that is part of its problem.' | 0:06:04 | 0:06:10 | |
What a fantastic view to wake up to. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
There's Snowdon, quite visible, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
because the seventh Marquis insisted | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
that the National Trust bought that land over there, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
so the vista was perfect. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
But in a way, of course, that is a little bit of the problem, | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
because that beautiful view there | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
is of a wild and remote part of Wales. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
We're in a far north-west corner. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
There are towns here, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:41 | |
there's Bangor and there's Caernarfon, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
but we are actually quite a long way, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
a good day trip | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
from those huge centres of population, like Manchester. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
So, how do we get the visitors | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
to come here on a regular basis? | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
'At the moment, we get about 93,000 visitors every year. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:08 | |
'We're a small property here | 0:07:08 | 0:07:09 | |
'compared to other National Trust properties.' | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
And we don't get as many visitors because of where we're situated. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
You've got to think of new ideas to encourage visitors to come back? | 0:07:17 | 0:07:22 | |
Definitely. If we don't have visitors, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
it means we don't build up funds to keep this place for ever. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
So we do have to also work | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
a bit like a visitor attraction, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
in that we need new things for people to see. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
Whether that's opening a new room to the public, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
maybe letting them into the cellars, | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
or putting on a series of events, whether outside or inside, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
to attract people to come back again and again. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
'That's a lot of ambition | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
'and something immediately becomes apparent. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
'I think it may be connected with that bankruptcy sale | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
'100 years ago.' | 0:07:59 | 0:08:00 | |
Katherine Manners, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
distant relative, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
painted by Van Dyke. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
But there aren't really, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
in this house, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:11 | |
so many very important pieces | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
that people come here to tick them off, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
like they might at the National Gallery. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
The Trust has to sell this house to visitors | 0:08:21 | 0:08:26 | |
on a different principle. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:27 | |
And for that purpose, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
the most interesting painting here | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
is not an "old master" at all. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:34 | |
'Said to be the largest mural in Europe, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
'this painting was commissioned | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
'to decorate the dining room in 1936. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
'The artist, Rex Whistler, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:46 | |
'has a museum dedicated to his work in the old kitchen, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
'but it is his relationship with the family | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
'that the Trust really wants to unlock and use, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:59 | |
'and the picture is the key. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
'Whistler paints himself here, with a brush. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
'The young boy stealing an apple | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
is his pal, the future seventh Marquis, as a child. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
'But it was the girl in the boat, | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
'Lady Caroline, the little boy's sister, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
'who became an obsession for the artist, Whistler.' | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
He was said to be the model for Charles Ryder | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
in Brideshead Revisited, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
someone who is in love | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
with the idea of a great stately home | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
and also... | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
..so they say, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:36 | |
in love with the daughter of the house. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
'The relationship was undoubtedly intense while it lasted, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
'as his portraits of her reveal. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
'But this is the question - | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
'can the National Trust use stories like this | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
'to make up for what was lost in the bankruptcy sale?' | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
There's a great story here | 0:10:00 | 0:10:01 | |
and as you go down here, is a love story. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
'Justin Albert, Trust Director in Wales, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
'certainly seems to have that ambition.' | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
That thing the National Trust calls "spirit of place", | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
but just storytelling, is phenomenal. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
The story behind this family, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
that it was a pleasure house that turned into a family house | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
is, in itself, a reason to come here. You can come and wander round here | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
and you can be the Angleseys for a day, and that's kind of fun. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
'Can the Trust preserve the atmosphere and look | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
'of a family home from the 1930s?' | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
So let's go into Lady Anglesey's lounge. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
And you can see the feminine influence of Sibyl Colefax here. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
'Sibyl Colefax was the society decorator | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
'who re-invented the idea of the country house. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
'She aimed at comfort, not display. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
'The Trust is not intending to create | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
'a historical museum behind red ropes, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
'but allow the public to enjoy that comfort | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
'and poke about in a house that remained largely unchanged | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
'over the last 80 years. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
With the passing of the last Marquis of Anglesey, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:12 | |
she now has a blank sheet of paper. She can now do what she wants to do. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
She'll talk to the family. She'll reflect their wishes. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
I believe very strongly, as she does, that the family should be part | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
of the decision-making, because without a family, the place is dead. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
-Why? This is a National Trust property. -Why should...? | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
Why is the family still involved in something | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
which effectively has now become... | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
into the ownership of a much bigger group, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
which is the National Trust? | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
Whatever you think about the aristocracy, whatever you think, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
they have a validity in the houses that they lived in | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
and built and procreated in | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
and did all the fun things over the millennia and centuries, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
without a family being involved with that, the place is dead. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
There's no spirit. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
'And a way to experience this "spirit", for the Trust, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
'is "free flow", where you can walk around, unguided, | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
'at your own pace.' | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
It's not just a house for connoisseurs, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
it's also a house for nosey parkers. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
My aim is that every room looks | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
as if Lord Anglesey has just left the room, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
so it does look like a home that is lived in. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
'This idea extends throughout the house | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
'and the latest challenge is this room. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
'The seventh Marquis, the last to live here, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
'died in 2013. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
'This is his study. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
'It is exactly as he left it.' | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
This is the room that he used to work in? | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
It is. This is his hub of the home. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
He's got a desk for every task. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
-This is his writing desk, where he would have written his books. -Yeah. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
A correspondence desk, where he would have written | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
-to friends and family... -Right. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
..a research corner, where he'd do his academic work | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
and where he wrote his eight volume history of the British Cavalry. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
'After the 7th Marquis gave the house | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
'to National Trust Wales in 1976, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
'he remained active in the building conservation movement | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
'and local affairs.' | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
I wonder, when people come here, they want to see a proper house. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
They don't want to see a mess like this, do they? | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
I think they do want to see a mess, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
but it is an organised mess, I would say. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
This is how the seventh Marquis operated | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
and I think if we tidied this up, we'd just be tidying away | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
his personality and his character. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
You can still smell his cigars | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
and when we do open it, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
I will make sure that his opera will be playing as well. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
So it's using all the senses | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
to evoke that feeling, when people come in. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
Are you going to light a cigar? | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
I don't know if we'll go that far. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
At the moment, it still smells of the cigars. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
I've noticed that there are parts of the carpet | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
which are quite worn away. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:29 | |
Are you going to get rid of those? | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
No, definitely not. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:32 | |
We'd be ruining the spirit of place if we did that. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
Lord Anglesey, wherever he sat, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
was known for shuffling his feet, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
so he would wear away the carpet quite easily. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
And every desk in this room... | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
He's actually eventually decided | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
to cut out the carpet and stick it down, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
so that he doesn't get his feet caught | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
in the holes that he's been wearing. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
'Nerys plans to have the study open for visitors | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
'in the summer of 2015. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
'I'm just glad I'm not one of the cleaners. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
'In some of the rooms, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:09 | |
'the Trust are not only conserving signs of the family, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
'they're actively creating them.' | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
It's a goose's egg cup that way | 0:15:15 | 0:15:16 | |
and a hen's egg cup that way. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
Oh, that's very good, isn't it? | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
'Here's an imaginary breakfast, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
'with clear evidence of where Lord Anglesey would sit.' | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
'And they've taken one of his jackets out of storage | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
'to complete the scene. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
'What do we call this? | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
'Creative curation? | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
'In the living room, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
'it's tea time.' | 0:15:40 | 0:15:41 | |
Yeah, it's all laid out, just as it might have been, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
including rather stale-looking scones | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
and a used Chronicle, waiting to be read, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
as if Lord and Lady Anglesey have just popped out to the shrubbery | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
to have a row about that oik Whistler trying to chat up | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
their daughter, Lady Paget. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
But how far do you go? | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
Do you have a couple of damp Labradors | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
smelling in the hall? | 0:16:06 | 0:16:07 | |
Do you...? | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
Do you put dirty footprints across the carpet? | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
Do you ever, as the National Trust, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
say, "No, no! Stop! Where it is, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
"is enough. We've got there"? | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
We have to evolve, we have to adapt. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
We make mistakes, we will make mistakes. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:24 | |
We'll do some really crappy interpretations at some times, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
we'll do some good interpretations, but unless we adapt continuously, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
we won't survive. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
'One way that Nerys is aiming to survive | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
'is to develop the story of the house | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
'by bringing back a member of the family | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
'currently conspicuous in his absence. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
'The more respectable members of the family, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
'like the first Marquis, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
'have their own museums to tell their stories. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
'But hardly visible at all | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
'is the most colourful character... | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
'..the fifth Marquis, | 0:16:58 | 0:16:59 | |
'the dancing Marquis.' | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
In a way, the family didn't really want him to be on display. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:07 | |
They tended to not refer to him. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
So Nerys has brought him back into prominence, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
perhaps, against the family's wishes. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
'Nerys is hoping to convince Justin | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
'to invest in a part of the estate that she thinks could illuminate | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
'the Victorian party atmosphere of the fifth Marquis - | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
'a series of tunnels from the house | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
'run directly to the Menai Straits.' | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
Definitely needs to be part of the visit | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
because it's such a historic part of the house. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
'Nerys is hoping Justin will find money to reopen the tunnels | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
'and create a new attraction. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
'This is how supplies got to the house, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
'but it was also a place of recreation. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
'When the tide is low, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
'the water is held in a pool | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
'and it would have been lit by torches. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
'There are tales of Victorian swimming parties here.' | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
So this is where the tunnel is, right? | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
So if you go through here, you'll find a 200-metre tunnel, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
leading directly to the house. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:15 | |
Yes. Well, this is where the entrance would have been, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
so, um, we're going to have to knock through here. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
'The tunnels were closed by the sixth Marquis, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
'possibly for safety reasons, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
'but also perhaps to distance the family | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
'from their predecessor's decadent reputation.' | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
The family itself... | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
for a long time, didn't really want to recognise | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
the existence of the Marquis. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
As much as, perhaps, the family at one point | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
disliked how he had made them appear | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
to the outside world, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
he's still part of the history of this place | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
and he actually meant a lot to the local community here, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
and I think that's a really important thing | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
to bring across to our visitors. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
'Whether Nerys is right or wrong | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
'in welcoming the black sheep back into the family, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
'it will cost money, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
'and this is a place that eats money.' | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
There's no stop to conservation, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
because things just get worse and worse and worse and worse. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
If you look at Plas Newydd, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:15 | |
of the 20 rooms we show, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
there's usually another 60 rooms that we can't show | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
cos they're falling apart. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
And that is a continually growing conservation crisis | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
that National Trust faces. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
'The costs of running a place like this | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
'do keep mounting. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
'They need visitors, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
'but visitors bring wear and tear.' | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
The National Trust inherits the actual problems | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
that the family would have had, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
including just...standard maintenance. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
Stair rods don't clean themselves, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
although they do get the help of volunteers. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
But 90,000 visitors quickly take their toll | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
and this carpet gets worn away. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
So much so, that it had to be replaced at the end of the '90s | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
with a nice new one from Bulgaria. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
'Some of the expenses are less visible.' | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
Well now, here's an important treasure | 0:20:11 | 0:20:12 | |
that not a lot of people notice. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
The central heating. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
In today's money, it would cost £80,000 in oil | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
to heat this house. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
So you have inherited that problem? | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
I have. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
And what are you doing about that? | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
We are getting rid of oil | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
and we're installing a marine source heat pump, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
which is going to take heat directly from the Menai Straits, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
convert it into electricity | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
and heat the whole of the mansion. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
'This is a major undertaking | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
'for Nerys and the Trust. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
'The heat pump will be one of the biggest in Europe. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
'Cutting edge green technology, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
'it is expected to save the estate | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
'over £40,000 a year... | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
'..but it's not actually a new idea. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
'In fact, the last Marquis | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
'had considered exactly the same solution.' | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
He was a few years ahead of the National Trust. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
I've actually found an article | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
that the seventh Marquis has ripped out of Country Life, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
stuck a note on it, saying, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
"Wouldn't this be a good idea? But I'm sure we can't afford it." | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
Um, and then the National Trust energy people came along | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
and decided, let's use some energy that we already have all around us, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:33 | |
convert that into the heat | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
that's going to be used to heat the entire house. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
'Unlike the poor old Marquis, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
'the organisation does have the funds for big investments like this. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
'They're prepared to pay the £600,000 | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
'because they've taken on this place for ever. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
'They estimate that the pump will pay for itself over time. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
'But the spending doesn't stop at the front door.' | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
This is not just a great house, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
it's inarguably a great setting. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
Plas Newydd has 160 acres or more of grounds, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:06 | |
looked after by | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
four and a half gardeners - that's 30 acres each. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
'And everybody has to be aware of the tight budget.' | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
We're very good at making do | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
and scavenging | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
and finding things in skips, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
and converting them from, you know, refuse | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
into the highest-quality visitor attractions. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
'The garden we see here dates from the 1780s. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
'Part of it was created by the great landscape designer | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
'Humphry Repton. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:42 | |
'His most visible legacy | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
'is the grand, mile-long drive. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
'While Repton's design would have aimed to absorb the family | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
'for a whole Summer, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
'how can a day visitor appreciate something of this scale?' | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
People can easily miss | 0:23:01 | 0:23:02 | |
a lot of the very interesting things that there are. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
'So Paul is building little features around the gardens | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
'to help orientate people | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
'in this huge space.' | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
Dad, come here! | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
One of the things I'm quite opposed to is signs. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
I don't like signs at all. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
They're intrusive and my philosophy has always been, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
you get people to move around a place, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
not by saying "The such and such is over there" with an arrow pointing, | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
you have something on the near horizon | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
which is interesting and draws their attention. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
'But the grounds will always throw up unexpected problems.' | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
I don't know if you can see, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
but we've got a couple of sheep in the garden. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
Can you stay there? | 0:23:44 | 0:23:45 | |
SHEEP BLEATS That's all right, it's good. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
It's very annoying... | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
and they eat plants, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
which costs us a bit of money. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
Some of the old plants and trees from years and years ago will die. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
Now, do we replant them exactly the same, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
or do we add a little bit of our own interpretation? | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
That's a question we face every day. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
Do you think you could get Paul? | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
There's a tree come down. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
-It's not going to roll over anywhere. -No, it isn't. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
This is one of our two Zelkova serratas. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
Right, Gill told me this morning it was a Zelkova, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
but I didn't get the full name. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
Yeah, she tried to call it a "jalfrezi" at first | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
and realised that was an Indian curry! | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
'The Trust cannot simply "look after" a place. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
'Their mission evolves continuously. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
'There is still hidden potential to be uncovered. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
'Nerys takes me down to the cellars, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
'where the family stored their bits and bobs. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
'But what bits, and what bobs!' | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
And the whole of this cellar... | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
..is full of stuff like this? | 0:24:56 | 0:24:57 | |
It's just full of family treasures. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
They've all been stored away for years and years | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
and now we're unwrapping them. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
Wrapped away, as if it was of no consequence, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
is a spyglass that belonged to Napoleon. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
Some of the first Marquis' crutches. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
You can see the "A" for "Anglesey" on it. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
'And here's another useful find, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
'something given to the fifth Marquis | 0:25:17 | 0:25:18 | |
'by the locals of Menai Bridge, back in 1896.' | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
"Our most hearty congratulations | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
"upon your attaining the 21st anniversary of your birth." | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
Crawlers. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:31 | |
Down here, we have... | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
What, 100 Christmases? | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
You know, "Darling, what have you brought me?" | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
"I brought you this trowel." | 0:25:41 | 0:25:42 | |
"Darling, what did you think of the pen I bought you?" | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
"I loved it, darling. I loved it." | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
"And what do you do with it? | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
"You put it with the others." | 0:25:51 | 0:25:52 | |
-I know how she feels, you know? -NERYS LAUGHS | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
I've had Christmases like that as well. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
'If Nerys has her way, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:00 | |
'these unconsidered trifles of a family's life | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
'are destined to make their way into the daylight. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
'Meanwhile, the diary of visitor attractions continues. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
'Nerys has organised VIP fee-paying events, | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
'like this tea in the Whistler room.' | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
We wouldn't normally let anybody sit there, let alone eat there, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
so it's definitely a special occasion. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
'Previously unseen bedrooms and bathrooms are being opened to view.' | 0:26:29 | 0:26:34 | |
It's nice, because for years, obviously, it's been closed off to the public. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
And the only people that have been able to see this room would have been the Anglesey's guests. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
'And the heat is on.' | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
It's really nicely warm now. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
The history of this house, from the time of the first Baron Paget, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
has been one of extraordinary complexity | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
and invention and change, | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
and now the Trust own it. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
They've owned it for a tiny amount of time by comparison, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
perhaps they'll own it for a further 600 years, | 0:27:03 | 0:27:07 | |
but does their ownership mean | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
that the story has finished? | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
Or are there future changes to come? | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
'I put that to Justin.' | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
However much we play around a little bit, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
by opening up another room or opening up a tunnel, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
or looking after the grounds or perhaps growing another tree, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
or even putting an exhibition in the stables over there, | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
or change anything, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:33 | |
essentially, what's happened is, | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
we've reached a moment in time where we say, "Finish, full stop. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
-"That's it." -I hope not. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
I hope not... I really hope not, | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
I hope this house grows and builds its collection. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
There's elements here that will always stay the same, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
but there's elements we can change. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
And I think the National Trust | 0:27:51 | 0:27:52 | |
will become more of a curatorial organisation. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
If we don't move with the times, we will stagnate, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
and Nerys will have less and less and less visitors every year. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
Of course, in the old days, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
if you were a Baron or a Lord, | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
or even a dancing Marquis, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
then you could pretty much do what you liked with this place. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
You could add an extra wing or an octagonal tower, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
or knock a bit down, or even go off to the south of France | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
and forget about it all together. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
But if you're National Trust Wales, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
you don't have that option | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
and there'll always be quite a few people | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
keeping an eye on you. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 |