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This programme contains some strong language. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:10 | |
You want to do a soundcheck, yeah? | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
Yeah. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:19 | |
One, two. One, two. One, two. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
One two, one two, one two. Hello, hello, hello. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
-Hello, hello. -OK. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
Really good. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
So, before we start, I just want to ask you... | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
how's your memory? | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
It's pretty good in some places and completely non-existent on others. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
I can remember some things but not other things. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
But then it's written down, usually, somewhere. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
What do I tell you? I can't remember much of it, to be honest! | 0:00:45 | 0:00:50 | |
Everybody has selective memories, you know, and in the end I just think, "Oh, what the hell!" | 0:00:50 | 0:00:55 | |
You know, I say that old adage "never let the truth spoil a good story". | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
With me, we'll cover a lot of ground and it will just be natural, you know, whatever happens. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:05 | |
-Have you got a light? -Yeah, sure. -Oh, I've got one! | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
LIGHTER CLICKS | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
Well, I don't know whether it's going to be mystifying, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
and I suppose it's not going to be a glorification either. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
Above all, it should be entertaining, it should be fun, | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
because that's what the band was. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
I'm amazed by it myself! I mean it is... | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
HE LAUGHS RASPINGLY | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
It's almost a fairy story, you know? | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
MUSIC STARTS AND STOPS | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
Take three. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:31 | |
Last week, New York City finally got to see and hear the Rolling Stones. We were the last stop | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
on a tour that took them into 30 cities in about six weeks. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
It's a gruelling trip. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
I went to Madison Square Gardens to meet Mick Jagger, | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
the singer with the group - a fascinating man. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
And he's been described, variously, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
as the supreme sexual object in modern, western culture, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
a compound of menace and energy, a sadomasochistic freak, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
a pussy cat and various other things. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
We have for you tonight, an impression, I think a fairly accurate one, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
of what goes on outside, inside and backstage at Madison Square Gardens | 0:02:02 | 0:02:07 | |
'when the Rolling Stones are in town. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
'As you look at this, it's, literally, only minutes until he goes outside on to a stage, | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
'and exudes solid energy to 20,000 people. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
'Notice how calm we both are, even though he had 20,000 people waiting | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
'and I had three listless staff members waiting for a cab for me.' | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
Good morning. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
Can you, sort of, tell me my way around in here? I don't know who's who and what's what. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:31 | |
-Doesn't all this up upset you, all these people...? -Yeah. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
-It's really crowded for a morning show. -Yeah. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
-How did you sleep after opening night last night? -Not very well. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
I don't know if I was supposed to see this, but there was a plate of something going round. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
-People offering little pills. -Vitamins and salt. -Vitamins and salt pills? -Yeah. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:49 | |
-They tell me... -A, E, C and salt! | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
-Yeah? -Drink the salt with plenty of water. -Yeah. Will that help? | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
-Do you want to do it all now, Dick? -We could. Yeah, we can cut. -Because I've got to get ready. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:01 | |
How much has your technique and your sense of timing developed over the last five or six years? | 0:03:01 | 0:03:06 | |
You talk to me like an actor. I don't understand anything about all those things. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:11 | |
I just go on and do it. I don't know about timing or anything. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
Cos you give me the impression, and I've watched you - | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
whether it's conscious or not - of being a very, very shrewd professional performer. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
No... No, it's not true. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
PIANO PLAYS POIGNANTLY | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
# It's funny, funny, funny, funny, funny... | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
# It's funny, honey | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
# It's funny | 0:03:55 | 0:03:56 | |
# It's funny | 0:03:56 | 0:03:57 | |
Funny. | 0:03:58 | 0:03:59 | |
# Ain't it nice to go on a Sunday afternoon? | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
# Watching all the children in their Sunday suits | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
# Thinking 'bout the times I had when I was just a baby | 0:04:14 | 0:04:19 | |
# Wondering if I would ever feel that kind of cold | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
# You know it's funny... # | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
PIANO PLAYING BECOMES DISCORDANT | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
HEAVY FOOTSTEPS | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
PHONES RING, WALKIE-TALKIES BLARE | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
LOTS OF CHATTER AND NOISE | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
..Oh, and a bottle of Scotch and another coke! | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
-Water! -And water! | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
CHEERING IN THE BACKGROUND | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
CHEERING GETS EVER CLOSER | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
CHEERING REACHES A CRESCENDO | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
Ladies and gentlemen... | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
the Rolling Stones! | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
WILD CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
# Ye-ah-ah-ah, oh! | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
MUSIC: "Street Fighting Man" by the Rolling Stones | 0:05:47 | 0:05:52 | |
# Ev'rywhere | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
# I hear the sound | 0:06:02 | 0:06:03 | |
# Of marching, charging feet, boy | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
# Cos summer's here | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
# And the time is right | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
# For fighting in the street, boy | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
# Well, what can a poor boy do? | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
# Except to sing for a rock 'n' roll band | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
# Cos in sleepy London town | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
# There's just no place for | 0:06:26 | 0:06:27 | |
# A street fighting man | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
Whoo! | 0:06:33 | 0:06:34 | |
# Hey! | 0:06:58 | 0:06:59 | |
# Said my name is called disturbance | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
# I'll shout and scream | 0:07:05 | 0:07:06 | |
# I'll kill the king | 0:07:06 | 0:07:07 | |
# I'll rail at all his servants | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
# Well, what can a poor boy do? | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
# Except join a rock 'n' roll band | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
# Cos in sleepy London town | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
# There's no place | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
# For a street fighting man... # | 0:07:23 | 0:07:24 | |
Whooo! | 0:07:27 | 0:07:28 | |
Yeah, yeah! | 0:07:34 | 0:07:35 | |
WILD CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
WILD CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
All right! | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
Love you! | 0:08:48 | 0:08:49 | |
WILD CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
SILENCE | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
JET ENGINES ROAR | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
FAINT CHATTER OF VOICES | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
ECHOING HONKY-TONK PIANO PLAYS | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
MUSIC: "Flight 505" by the Rolling Stones | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
# Well, I was happy | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
# Here at home | 0:10:07 | 0:10:08 | |
# I got everything | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
# I need | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
# Happy bein' on my own | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
# Just live the life I lead | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
# Well, suddenly | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
# It dawns on me | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
# That this was not my life | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
# So I just phoned | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
# The airline girl | 0:10:29 | 0:10:30 | |
# And said, get me on flight number 505 | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
# Get me on flight | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
# Number 505. # | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
Let's recap on the Rolling Stones. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
How did you all get together in the first place? | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
I think we all met in clubs in London, jazz clubs. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
Actually, I answered an advert for a bass player. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
But the rest of them got together individually in jazz clubs and formed a group. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:57 | |
-We move on now to Brian. -Hello. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
How long have you been with the Rolling Stones? | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
-Are you one of the original members? -Yes, one of the original members. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
-What were you doing before you joined? -Erm... | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
Well, just sort of bumming around waiting for something happen, really. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
I had a few jobs and I was trying to get a band going. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
But it was unsuccessful until I met up with Mick and Keith. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
Do you think the general public started getting a little tired of The Beatles | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
and looked for something new? | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
I don't know about that. What could you say to a thing like that? | 0:11:23 | 0:11:28 | |
Things started happening for us. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
-Well... Why? Why did they start happening? -I don't really know. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
Something sort of... A chemical reaction seemed to have happened somehow. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:40 | |
-What would you say happened? -I really don't know. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
MUSIC: "I Just Want To Make Love To You" by the Rolling Stones | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
# I don't want you | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
# Be no slave | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
# I don't want you | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
# Work all day | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
# I don't want your | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
# Money, too! | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
# I just wanna make | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
# Love to you | 0:12:01 | 0:12:02 | |
# Oh baby, love to you... # | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
The rise to popularity in London... | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
Well, the rise to popularity in the world was very short. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
The first night there was about 80 people. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
The second night was about 120. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
And the third night, there were queues outside | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
and they couldn't all get in. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
When you saw those crowds growing every week, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
you knew that you were striking a bell somewhere, you know, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:29 | |
and that something was happening. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
Would you know why England became the pop centre? | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
It just happened that England had the right type of sound | 0:12:33 | 0:12:38 | |
and the right sort of visual image | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
that the kids over the world wanted at this particular time. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
I think between Mick, Brian and me, we had a feeling that | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
the idea to put a band that was a little less showbusiness | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
was exactly at the right time. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
The showbiz angle just was boring to us. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
# ..Love to you, baby | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
# Sweet love to you, baby | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
# Love to you, baby | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
# Love to you | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
-# And I! -And I! | 0:13:06 | 0:13:07 | |
# And I! | 0:13:07 | 0:13:08 | |
-# And I! -And I! | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
-# And I! -And I! | 0:13:10 | 0:13:11 | |
-# And I! -And I! | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
# I just wanna make love | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
# To yo-o-o-u. # | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
ALL SING: # Wherever I go | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
# La-la, la-la-la | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
# Dah-dah! | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
# La-la-la | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
# Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
# That I love London town. # | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
'Of course, you have to talk about Andrew Oldham, | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
'who been working for Brian Epstein with The Beatles. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
'He went around London and he heard that we were kicking up a storm in some clubs. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
'He just looks around and says, "Hey, there can't be just one band in England."' | 0:13:50 | 0:13:55 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
'Andrew wanted to make the Rolling Stones the anti-Beatles. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
'So if you've got heroes, you've got an anti-hero, like in a movie. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
'You've got good guys and bad guys. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
'Andrew decided that the Rolling Stones were the bad guys. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
'It wasn't just an accident. He thought the Rolling Stones would suit that image. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:15 | |
'It helps to have people that go along with it or will fit the bill. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
'It's good to have an actor that will play the part.' | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
CHANTING: We want the Stones! | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
We want the Stones! | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
We want the Stones! | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
GETTING LOUDER: We want the Stones! | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
We want the Stones! | 0:14:32 | 0:14:33 | |
We want the Stones! | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
We want the Stones! We want the Stones! | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
We want the Stones! | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
We want the Stones! | 0:14:42 | 0:14:43 | |
We want the Stones! | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
We want the Stones! | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
MUSIC: "I'm All Right" by the Rolling Stones | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
# It's all right! | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
# It's all right | 0:14:54 | 0:14:55 | |
# It's all right! | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
# It's all right | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
# It's all right | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
# It's all right, baby | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
# It's all right | 0:15:04 | 0:15:05 | |
# Do you feel it? | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
# Do you? | 0:15:11 | 0:15:12 | |
# Do you feel it? | 0:15:12 | 0:15:13 | |
# Do you? | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
# Do you, do you, do you...? # | 0:15:16 | 0:15:17 | |
It started, man, on the first tour. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
Halfway through things start to get crazy. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
# Do you feel all right? | 0:15:26 | 0:15:27 | |
# Do you feel all right? | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
# Do you feel all right? | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
SOUND BEGINS TO BREAK UP | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
-ECHOES: -# Feel...all right...girl? | 0:15:38 | 0:15:39 | |
# Feel...all right...baby? | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
# Come on, come on! | 0:15:44 | 0:15:45 | |
# Come on... # | 0:15:46 | 0:15:47 | |
AUDIENCE SCREAMS WILDLY | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
FEEDBACK AND GUITAR LEADS BUZZ | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
SCREAMING CONTINUES | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
SILENCE | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
We didn't play a show after that | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
that was completed, I think, for two or three years. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
MUSIC: "Route 66" by the Rolling Stones | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
WILD SCREAMING | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
We would take bets on how long a show would last, you know. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
"You're on." "Ten minutes." | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
And sure enough, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:48 | |
wave after wave. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
Some of them are fainting, so the cops and the people and attendants | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
are dragging them out on stage, you know. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
# ..On Route 66. # | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
I could see the water just running down between the seats. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:03 | |
It was just a flood of urine pouring down. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
The girls, all the girls, in the audience were wetting themselves. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
# Well, goes from St Louie | 0:17:11 | 0:17:12 | |
# Down to Missouri | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
# Oklahoma City looks, oh, so pretty... # | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
Girls wet themselves when they get excited. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
# Gallup, New Mexico... # | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
They were like these tiny little girls that would get in there | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
and just scream and you couldn't hear anything. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
I just was mouthing it, hoping it was going to be OK. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
Brian and I, we played Popeye The Sailor Man... | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
..and then waited for the shit to hit the fan. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
And you stayed there for as long as you could before it got besieged. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
And then you did a runner. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
Getting in and out was the big deal of the day. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
I hated that. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
I hated being chased by girls and all of that. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
It used to really embarrass me. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
I wish they could have turned it off when the show stopped! | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
# Get your kicks | 0:18:26 | 0:18:27 | |
# On Route 66. # | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
Has there ever been a time getting into theatres and away from them, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:40 | |
that you've really had the wind up your sails on occasions? | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
You really were going to be cut off from... You know, get caught in the crowd virtually? | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
-Last night was bad. -Yes, last night was a good example. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
-What is your worst experience? -We knocked a policeman off his bike. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
-He broke his leg or something. -Yeah, he was very cool on his bike. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:59 | |
Until we ran into him! | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
I guess the Rolling Stones aren't everyone's cup of tea. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
And that's the understatement of the year. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
There are whole armies of parents who become almost homicidal at the sight of them. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
Both on stage and off, the Stones don't exactly generate an aura of sweetness and light. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:16 | |
And their carefully calculated air of "Blow you, Jack!" | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
has won them almost as many enemies as fans. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
The Beatles are loved by pretty well everybody, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
from the mums down to the teenagers. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
But what's your real appeal to the fans, do you think? | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
You do tend to present a sort of yobbo-ish image. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
-You know, you tend... -"Moronic" I think is the best word. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
-Yes, moronic. -Moronic. -Moronic, that's the word. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
AS A MORON: What's he talking about? | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
But the thing is, that you've all had very good educations. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
I mean, why do you present this image? Is it deliberate? | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
There are lot of morons at grammar schools, you know. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
Deeeee... | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
Yooooow... | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
D'aaagh! | 0:20:00 | 0:20:01 | |
Maooooow! | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
A-huh-huh! | 0:20:06 | 0:20:07 | |
-A-huh-huh! -A-huh-huh! | 0:20:07 | 0:20:08 | |
Wish this was all on film, man! Could be great. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
'You see, you're thrust into the limelight | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
'in a youth-orientated thing. It's not about growing up. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
'It's about NOT growing up, in a way. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
'Then it's about bad behaviour. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
'And you're about bad behaviour, so then you start behaving badly.' | 0:20:24 | 0:20:29 | |
'It's the weirdest situation. If you did something wrong, even better! | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
'And The Beatles got the white hat, you know. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
'What's left? The black hat.' | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
MUSIC: "Little Red Rooster" by the Rolling Stones | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
We never abided by any rules | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
that were the gentlemanly things. We never did it. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
That was part and parcel of why we just got ostracised by everyone. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:58 | |
# Too lazy to crow for day. # | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
People used to shout at us, "You're a load of girls!" and, "Get your bloody hair cut!" | 0:21:01 | 0:21:06 | |
And all this, you know. "Ha-ha-ha!" Make jokes about us. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
You'd see 'em all laughing and pointing and all that. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
It's obvious that you don't get your hair cut, but do you get a trim from time to time? | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
Yes, I do. Last night. Last night, yeah. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
-Last night? -Mm. -It's certainly grown a lot since then! | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
We were just refusing to conform to what everybody wanted us to be. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
This particular hotel manager was trying to be over-officious. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
And I, honestly and sincerely, don't have a tie, you see? | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
I used to wear a tie, but the boys didn't wear ties. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
I thought I'd look a bit out if I wore one. So I stopped wearing 'em. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
# ..The hounds begin to howl. # | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
Brian used to get upset when they used to say, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
"I stood next to 'em and I could see the fleas jumping off their hair." | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
They used to call us the Neanderthals. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
And the ugliest group in the world. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
What sort of words have you been called, in fact? | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
-The four-letter words? -No, the ones that are repeatable. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
We've been called just about everything from beautiful to revolting. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
Brian was a very clever musician. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
He played bottleneck guitar, electric, and nobody did that. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:12 | |
Except in America! But I mean, nobody did it in London. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
He'd had more experience, I think, in playing. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
So he had some level of musical accomplishment. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
Really Keith and I really didn't. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
Brian and Keith had the worst humour. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
They used to call ordinary working people "Ernies". | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
Brian always used to pull his nose down and pull his ear out. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
STUPID VOICE: And talk like that. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
You know, like "working people"! Oh, they were awful! | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
Shit, by then we were like jerking it up. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
You know, I mean, it was them against us | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
in the most obvious way. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
Sort of, I don't know, perverted anarchy! | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
What about the standard charge that no-one would let their daughter marry a Rolling Stone? | 0:23:04 | 0:23:09 | |
-Here's the living proof! -Two of them already did! | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
-I married one. -You married a Rolling Stone? | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
-What's this about walking about in bathing suits with all those girls in Texas? -No, that's not... | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
-No, it was Georgia. -Georgia! -What can you expect from Georgia? | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
Georgia is full of idiots. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
-You're being accused of being vulgar, obstinate and hostile. Are you? -That's right, yes. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
-Well... -We're uncouth and obstinate. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
Forthright maybe, but I don't think vulgar and hostile. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
-We're only hostile when we're... -Too many people talk like the truth! | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
What do you give credit for your success now? What is it? | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
-Music. -Music? -Music. -Our records have sold. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
Anything you'd like to say right now before the camera rolls up? | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
-Goodbye. -Goodbye! | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
-How much of your act is acting? -Well, I suppose, really, all of it's acting, you know. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
But there's a difference between acting and not enjoying it | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
and acting and just doing what you want to do. It's like getting into a part. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
SCREAMING AND CHEERING | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
MUSIC: "It's All Over Now" by the Rolling Stones | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
# Well, baby used to stay out | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
# All night long | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
# She made me cry | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
# She done me wrong | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
# She hurt my nose open | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
# That's no lies | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
# Tables turning | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
# And now it's her turn to cry | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
# Because I used to love her | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
# But it's all over now | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
# Because I used to love her | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
# But it's all over now... # | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
As a singer and doing a performance, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
you've got to be very finely attuned to what's going on in the audience. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
Little Richard, literally, taught me this stuff. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
I watched how he would harangue the crowd almost. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
WILD SCREAMING | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
He would tease them. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:08 | |
-AS LITTLE RICHARD: -Ev'rybody stand up! I said stand up! | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
You know, and they would. He was outrageous. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
It kept it all alive, you know, and you never quite knew what was going to happen. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
WILD SCREAMING AND CHEERING | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
In those days, we only played covers. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
The first album was all covers. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
I remember having this discussion. "Well, what do we do now? We can't make a second album of covers." | 0:25:41 | 0:25:46 | |
We all really knew we'd come to the wall there. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
Andrew Oldham said, "If you want to keep going, you've got to..." | 0:25:49 | 0:25:54 | |
You know, "We need new material." | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
This is something I couldn't have conceived. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
A songwriter, like a blacksmith, does the ironwork. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:26:03 | 0:26:04 | |
And the horse wears them, do you know what I mean? | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
Suddenly, you know, just playing guitar and playing blues... | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
Suddenly, it wasn't enough, you know. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
Now they wanted to invent things for me to play. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
GUITAR PLAYS | 0:26:20 | 0:26:21 | |
# Give you what you don't get now... # | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
-Add another on top of this. -Yeah. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
-Otherwise we can duplicate. I'm sitting on a fence with you. -Sitting on a fence with me? | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
# Oh yes, I'm sitting on a fence. # All that. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
It's very hard to know where to put the title. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
-HE HUMS -That's good. It's all right. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
I wanted to make it like he was sitting on the fence | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
and couldn't make up his mind between one girl and the other. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
And he couldn't stand sitting on the fence cos it was getting very painful. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
'You know, we'd started experimenting with writing. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
'We weren't maybe very good at it, but we were trying. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
'You know, maybe not. Not everybody can write!' | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
GUITAR PLAYS | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
# Now I'm sitting on a fence... # | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
'We went on to write a whole load of crap, er... | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
'..And we didn't dare for months and months and months | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
'to write a song for the Stones. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
'You know, "Oh God, man!" That's a whole other trip, you know.' | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:27:22 | 0:27:23 | |
# I, I, I... | 0:27:25 | 0:27:26 | |
# I want... I want you back again... # | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
'The first song that I remember writing with the Rolling Stones was Tell Me, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:37 | |
'which is a tiny, minor, mini hit. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
'You know, it was very gratifying | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
'because we'd only done these cover songs.' | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
# I know you find it hard | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
# To reason with me | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
# But this time it's different | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
# Darling, you'll see. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
# You gotta... # | 0:28:05 | 0:28:06 | |
'Every little moment we had of hanging around | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
'Keith and I used to be sitting with guitars trying to write songs. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
'We wrote songs all the time. We were constantly coming up with ideas. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
'We started writing songs that were reflective of the time we were living in. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
'And that struck a chord with our audience.' | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
# You've gotta tell me it's all right | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
# Come home | 0:28:26 | 0:28:27 | |
# Come on, baby, yeah, yeah | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
# It's all right! | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
# It's all right! # | 0:28:33 | 0:28:34 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
'You're connecting and you're getting a lot of feedback. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
'You're feeling what the audience is feeling. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:40 | |
'You're exchanging with the audience a kind of ideas stream.' | 0:28:40 | 0:28:46 | |
MUSIC: "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" by the Rolling Stones | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
# I can't get no | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
# Satisfaction | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
# I can't get no | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
# Satisfaction | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
# Cos I try | 0:29:07 | 0:29:08 | |
# And I try | 0:29:08 | 0:29:09 | |
# And I try | 0:29:10 | 0:29:11 | |
# And I try | 0:29:11 | 0:29:12 | |
# I can't get no | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
# I can't get no... # | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
What's your opinion of the Rolling Stones? | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
I think they're the greatest - the best thing that's ever happened in the United States. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
They're so ugly that they're appealing. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
# He's telling me more and more... # | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
SCREAMING | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
What would happen if they took the Rolling Stones and all these other other rock and rollers away? | 0:29:30 | 0:29:36 | |
I don't know. These parents would be very happy, I can tell you that much! | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
# No, no! | 0:29:40 | 0:29:41 | |
# Wooh, hey, hey, hey! | 0:29:42 | 0:29:43 | |
How's your popularity in Europe at this moment? | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
Very good, I think. Very healthy. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
SCREAMING | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
-..The Rolling Stones... -..Spannungen... | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
-..The Rolling Stones... -..S'appelle le Rolling Stones... | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
Il est Rolling Stones. | 0:29:57 | 0:29:58 | |
# Can't get no | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
# Satisfaction | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
# Cos I try | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
# And I try | 0:30:04 | 0:30:05 | |
# And I try | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
# And I try | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
# I can't get no | 0:30:09 | 0:30:10 | |
# I can't get no... # | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
The kids are looking for something else. Some different moral value. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
They've got to strive for something else | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
instead of just the same routine that their parents have fallen into. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
Splash on ice blue Aqua Velva! | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
# Well, he can't be a man | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
# He doesn't smoke | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
# The same cigarettes as me | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
# I can't get no | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
# All right. No, no, no! | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
# Can't get no | 0:30:39 | 0:30:40 | |
# I can't get no... # | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
Creamy lather! | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
# No, no | 0:30:45 | 0:30:46 | |
# No! | 0:30:46 | 0:30:47 | |
# Hey, hey, hey! | 0:30:48 | 0:30:49 | |
# Is what I say... # | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
I can't express myself in the right way when I feel satisfied with the world. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:58 | |
It's very easy if I feel very dissatisfied with something. I can write about that. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:05 | |
Why then, if you think most your work is about dissatisfaction, | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
-why do you think you're so popular? -Because most young people are dissatisfied. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
In what way? | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
With the generation which they think is running their lives. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
What things are you dissatisfied with? | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
The generation that runs our lives. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
WILD SCREAMING AND CHEERING | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
All right! | 0:31:37 | 0:31:38 | |
# Well, I get, I get no | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
All right! | 0:31:41 | 0:31:42 | |
# Well, I get, I get no | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
All right! | 0:31:44 | 0:31:45 | |
# I get, I get no | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
# Satisfaction | 0:31:47 | 0:31:48 | |
# I said, I got a little girly action | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
# I got some... # | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
When these girls pounce upon Mick, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
and seem to want to tear him to pieces, | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
it's not, essentially, an act of aggression, | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
but rather an act of devouring him. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
They want to incorporate his essence. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
It's a sort of fetishism, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
which has more in common with people collecting the relics of saints, as they did in the ancient past. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:26 | |
There's really no break with the ancient tradition. It's just a question of form. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:31 | |
I've seen this with the most marvellous, dramatic intensity, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:36 | |
with two or three thousand young girls in Manchester. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
And these girls, they wept. They were possessed by the spirit. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
And I may add, that all their little panties were soaking wet at the end. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:46 | |
I mean, a complete physical and mental absorption. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
I think that's very true. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
Though I think what's more interesting | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
is that in this country the audiences, | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
indeed all girls, and they do behave in this way. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
But in the rest of the world, this isn't true. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
In lots of places, they're nearly all boys. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
-With the boys, it erupts, you know... -Aggressively. -Much more aggressively. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:12 | |
And they use it to have a great fight with the police. They just beat the police up, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:17 | |
as a show of sort of strength, | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
or a show of dissatisfaction with something. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
MUSIC: "Paint It Black" by the Rolling Stones | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
# I see a red door | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
# And I want it painted black | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
# No colours any more | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
# I want them to turn black | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
# I see the girls walk by | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
# Dressed in their summer clothes | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
# I have to turn my head... # | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
We had riots every night. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
It was insane. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
I think they just wanted to be part of that rebellious thing | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
that we were instigating. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
They weren't attacking us. It was always having goes at the police. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
# I see people turn their heads | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
# And quickly look away | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
# Like a new-born baby | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
# It just happens e'vry day | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
# I look inside myself... # | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
'Now we're entering the area of social unrest, | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
'manifesting itself in a crowd situation. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
'You're just merely the catalyst of the crowd. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
'You know, it could be anything - a football match. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
'You're it on that day.' | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
They like the group as well, otherwise they wouldn't come. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
That's just only half of the show. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
The other half of the show is then participating in a riot. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
# I could not foresee this thing | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
# Happening to you | 0:34:49 | 0:34:50 | |
# If I look hard enough | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
# Into the settin' sun... # | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
What makes you think there would be a riot? | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
Well, the Stones seem to have a history of creating violence wherever they go. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:04 | |
# I wanna see it painted | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
# Painted black | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
# Black as night | 0:35:19 | 0:35:20 | |
# Black as coal | 0:35:20 | 0:35:21 | |
# I wanna see the sun | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
# Blotted out from the sky | 0:35:24 | 0:35:26 | |
# I wanna see it painted, painted, painted | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
# Painted black... # | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
Yeah! | 0:35:32 | 0:35:33 | |
ENGINE REVS | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
HEAVY BREATHING | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
There are a lot of things that the establishment does not like about Mick Jagger. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
But perhaps what rankles most is that he speaks to a vast segment of the population that they can't. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:02 | |
Across a barrier that at times must be measured in light years, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:07 | |
the two generations eye each other wearily and distrustfully. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
MUSIC: "Let's Spend The Night Together" by the Rolling Stones | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
# My, my, my, my | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
# Ba-Ba, ba-ba, ba-ba, ba-ba-ba! # | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
It felt like an explosive moment. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
People felt this sensation that something was going on | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
that had never happened before, that they'd been waiting to happen. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
# I'm going red | 0:36:34 | 0:36:35 | |
# And my tongue's getting tied | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
# Tongue's getting tied! # | 0:36:37 | 0:36:38 | |
And it was at that same time in London, | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
that all kinds of shit was hitting the fan. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
And, of course, we joined in. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
# Let's spend the night together | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
# Now I need you more than ever | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
# Let's spend the night together now | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
# Ba-ba, ba-ba, ba-ba, ba-ba-ba... # | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
Passport to success is a first-class ticket. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:03 | |
You know, to a lot of... of things. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:07 | |
# Let's spend the night together... # | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
We all smoked dope. I mean, except for Bill. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
But it was pretty innocent stuff. And then you've got more and more different drugs coming in - | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
LSD, cocaine, heroin and all these things. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
What do you think of LSD? Is it nice? | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
-LAUGHTER -It's very nice. LSD is very nice. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
'It was like a orgy of drugs, actually!' | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
# Baby! | 0:37:30 | 0:37:31 | |
# You need some guiding, baby. # | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
And those drugs were a great interest to the press | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
and the general public. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
# Let's spend the night together | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
# Let's spend the night together now. # | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
The News Of The World was a newspaper that liked to | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
reveal the faults in society. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
And they followed people, they put private detectives on people and, unfortunately... | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
-ECHOES: -'It was a set unfortunate, set unfortunate... | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
'We were going to have this party, which was the only party... | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
'So we're having this party in Keith's house in Redlands and we went off for this expedition. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:15 | |
'We took acid and then it took a long while to start. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
'It always does. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
'And we met someone who was milking a cow. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
'I don't like milk very much. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
'He said, "Oh, come on, Mick, try the milk." | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
'When you're on acid, everything's different. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
'I stood and like milk... I mean, acid, fresh cow milk, everything. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:45 | |
'And we walked back down to the car and went back to Redlands, | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
'by which time it was evening.' | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
-VOICES ECHO: -Problems, man, taking these things. Do it in later life. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
'So we're all coming down and it's a very smooth come down. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
'And we're just sitting around smoking a couple of joints. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
'And, er, bang, bang, bang on the door.' | 0:39:00 | 0:39:05 | |
# She comes in colours everywhere | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
# She combs her hair | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
# She's like a rainbow... # | 0:39:10 | 0:39:14 | |
-What'd been a lovely day, on acid... -HE LAUGHS | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
had turned out to be a very unpleasant evening. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
The News Of The World told the police there was a big drug party | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
and they should go and break it up and arrest everybody. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
A national newspaper had tipped off the police | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
that it would be worth their while to raid Richards' home for drugs | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
on the Sunday afternoon and the raid was carried out on Sunday evening. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
There was a gasp of pure horror from the youngsters crowded into the public gallery | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
at the moment Judge Block said sternly to Richards | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
that he offence carried a maximum sentence of ten years. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
MUSIC: "She's A Rainbow" by the Rolling Stones | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
Emotionally speaking, it was very difficult | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
because they thought we were going to be put away and never make another record for years and years. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:59 | |
People wanted prison sentences. It wasn't just a fine and a wrap across the knuckles. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:04 | |
We just kind of thought it was the end of the band, really. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
We never knew who was going to be in or out of jail, | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
and whether there was a future and all that. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
Did you feel that you were being persecuted for being a Rolling Stone? | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
It was obvious that that notoriety, plus the press thing, | 0:40:21 | 0:40:26 | |
turned it into - yes, it was a good bust for the police, wasn't it? And fun for the press. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:31 | |
There goes lunch for Richards and Jagger in the cells - | 0:40:31 | 0:40:35 | |
prawn cocktail, roast lamb with mint sauce, fresh strawberries and cream. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:39 | |
21 and 6 for Jagger. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
Iced melon, salmon salad, fresh fruit, strawberries and cream. 22 and 6 for Richards. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
And a half bottle of Beaujolais at ten bob a head for each. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
I'd never been in court before and I can't stand the way he's talking to me. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:53 | |
Calling me reprobate and a menace to society and all of that. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:58 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
All I said was that... | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
I'm not interested in your petty morals, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:06 | |
which gave me a year in the slammer! | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
There was a dead silence as the judge added, | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
"You will go to prison for one year." | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
And Richards, who earlier had talked in his evidence of what he called "petty morals", | 0:41:15 | 0:41:20 | |
went down to the cells without expression. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
Jagger put his hand to his face as he was given three months. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
For a moment, he looked like fainting, then prison officers moved forward | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
to take his arms and help him down to the cells. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
Mick was taken to Brixton and they sent me to Wormwood Scrubs, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:38 | |
which is like even worse. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
It's like Folsom or something, you know. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
And walking, I'm doing my first day. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
I've got the uniform on and we're walking round this courtyard in a circle. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:51 | |
-You know, "exercise" it's called! -HE LAUGHS | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
And then I get a tap on the shoulder from one of the other cons behind me. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
"You're out." | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
He said, "We've heard it on the radio." | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
I said, "Thank Christ for that!" | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
-NEWSREEL: -London - it's years since such crowds gathered to await an appeal verdict. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:11 | |
But this was a Rolling Stone's case, with the fans out in force. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
When Mick Jagger was conditionally discharged and Keith Richards' sentence quashed, | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
the pop idols drove off, the shadow of jail no longer over them. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:23 | |
I think I looked at it at the time as like, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
"They can try all they want. They won't make this stick because I've got all these people out there." | 0:42:27 | 0:42:32 | |
And unless I murdered somebody, they're going to insist that I'm out. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:37 | |
You've been targeted and then you can revel in your rebelliousness, if you want. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:42 | |
Because people are doing that for you. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
People are saying, "Oh, it's awful. They've been targeted!" | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
It cemented our relationships with our generation, with the public. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:52 | |
And it sort of gave us a badge of honour, in a way, you know. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:57 | |
To me, it just made me like, "OK, now you know who I am." | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
You've, basically, given me a licence now! | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
You know, it's Jessie James time. The cops turned me into a criminal. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:08 | |
You know, that's when I started to carry a shooter in America. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:12 | |
-So the outlaw was born? -Yeah. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
I mean, fully blown. That was when you really put the black hat on. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:20 | |
Before that, it was just sort of off-grey. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:23 | |
HE LAUGHS RASPINGLY | 0:43:23 | 0:43:25 | |
# I was born in a cross-fire hurricane | 0:43:25 | 0:43:29 | |
# And I howled at my ma in the driving rain | 0:43:32 | 0:43:37 | |
# But it's all right | 0:43:39 | 0:43:43 | |
# Now, in fact, it's a gas | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
# But it's all right | 0:43:46 | 0:43:50 | |
# I'm Jumpin' Jack Flash | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
# It's a gas, gas, gas! | 0:43:52 | 0:43:54 | |
# I was raised by a toothless, bearded hag | 0:44:04 | 0:44:08 | |
# I was schooled with a strap right across my back | 0:44:10 | 0:44:15 | |
# But it's all right now | 0:44:18 | 0:44:22 | |
# In fact, it's a gas | 0:44:22 | 0:44:24 | |
# But it's all right | 0:44:24 | 0:44:28 | |
# I'm Jumpin' Jack Flash | 0:44:28 | 0:44:30 | |
# It's a gas, gas, gas... # | 0:44:30 | 0:44:32 | |
Oooh! | 0:44:32 | 0:44:34 | |
In a way, I kinda felt that everybody else was writing a script for me. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:42 | |
"You're going to do what I can't." | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
"OK." | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
That is a very easy role to slip into. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:50 | |
There was a slot available and it was just built for me. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:53 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:44:53 | 0:44:54 | |
# Jumpin' Jack Flash, it's a gas... # | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
If you're a method actor, you always stay in character. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
-His character has changed. -Yes, he's changed a lot, this character. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
He's had a lot of changes. It's not just one change. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:08 | |
He's gone through, you know, every six months another person. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:13 | |
Every actor's character is part of themselves. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
You can only act what's in you. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
Rolling Stones, five. Take four. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:26 | |
The Jumping Jack Flash character is more been through the mill | 0:45:26 | 0:45:30 | |
and come out the other side smiling. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:33 | |
Yow! | 0:45:33 | 0:45:34 | |
The Sympathy character's much more complicated, | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
because my inspiration for that came from Baudelaire and The Master And Margarita, | 0:45:37 | 0:45:41 | |
so I had all these things going on. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:44 | |
Ooow! | 0:45:44 | 0:45:45 | |
MUSIC: "Sympathy For The Devil" by the Rolling Stones | 0:45:47 | 0:45:51 | |
It was very much for the time and everything. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:56 | |
I mean, it's got the violence of the time in it. | 0:45:56 | 0:45:58 | |
It's provocative. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:01 | |
# Please allow me to introduce myself | 0:46:07 | 0:46:11 | |
# I'm a man of wealth and taste | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
# I've been around for a long, long year | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
# Stole many a man's soul and faith | 0:46:19 | 0:46:23 | |
# I was 'round when Jesus Christ | 0:46:24 | 0:46:27 | |
# Had his moment of doubt and pain | 0:46:27 | 0:46:31 | |
# Made damn sure that Pilate | 0:46:32 | 0:46:35 | |
# Washed his hands and sealed his fate | 0:46:35 | 0:46:39 | |
# Pleased to meet you | 0:46:42 | 0:46:44 | |
# Hope you guessed my name... # | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
The violence was all-pervasive and you can't help but live in it | 0:46:47 | 0:46:52 | |
and reflect it back again and then, of course, it goes into a feedback loop. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:57 | |
# I watched with glee | 0:46:58 | 0:46:59 | |
# While you kings and queens | 0:46:59 | 0:47:01 | |
# Fought for ten decades | 0:47:01 | 0:47:03 | |
# For the gods they made | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
# I shouted out! | 0:47:06 | 0:47:07 | |
# Who killed the Kennedys? | 0:47:07 | 0:47:09 | |
# Well, after all | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
# It was you and me | 0:47:11 | 0:47:13 | |
# So let me, please, introduce myself | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
# I'm a man of wealth and taste | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
# And I laid traps for troubadours | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
# Who get killed before they reach Bombay | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
# Pleased to meet you | 0:47:32 | 0:47:34 | |
# Hope you guessed my name | 0:47:35 | 0:47:37 | |
# Oh, yeah | 0:47:37 | 0:47:38 | |
# But what's puzzling you is just | 0:47:39 | 0:47:42 | |
# The nature of my game | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
# Oh, yeah... # | 0:47:45 | 0:47:46 | |
Get down with it! | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
I mean, in a way, the Rolling Stones overtake it. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:52 | |
And it's almost like you're sort of levitating. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:55 | |
Ooh-hoo! | 0:47:55 | 0:47:57 | |
You don't even want to touch the strings, cos they're doing it themselves. | 0:47:57 | 0:48:01 | |
And, anyway, they'd be too hot. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
Ah, baby. All right. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
All right. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:08 | |
All right. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:10 | |
Aaah, yeah! | 0:48:11 | 0:48:13 | |
Wooo! | 0:48:13 | 0:48:14 | |
Woo! | 0:48:16 | 0:48:17 | |
All right. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:18 | |
Aah, yeah! | 0:48:18 | 0:48:20 | |
# Tell me, baby! | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
# What's my name? | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
# Tell me, babe! | 0:48:24 | 0:48:26 | |
# Tell me, baby! | 0:48:26 | 0:48:27 | |
# What's my name? | 0:48:28 | 0:48:29 | |
# Won't you tell me, sweetie? | 0:48:30 | 0:48:32 | |
# Woo-hoo-hoo! | 0:48:34 | 0:48:35 | |
# Aah, yeah! | 0:48:35 | 0:48:37 | |
# Woo-hoo-hoo! | 0:48:38 | 0:48:39 | |
# Tell me, baby! | 0:48:42 | 0:48:43 | |
# What's my name? | 0:48:43 | 0:48:45 | |
# Will you tell me, sweetie? | 0:48:45 | 0:48:47 | |
# You're put it right | 0:48:47 | 0:48:49 | |
# Woo-hoo-hoo! | 0:48:49 | 0:48:51 | |
# Woooo-hooo! | 0:48:51 | 0:48:52 | |
# Ooooh! | 0:48:53 | 0:48:55 | |
# Yeah! | 0:48:55 | 0:48:56 | |
# All right! | 0:48:56 | 0:48:58 | |
# Now tell me, honey | 0:48:58 | 0:49:00 | |
# What's my name? | 0:49:00 | 0:49:02 | |
# What's my name? # | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:49:12 | 0:49:16 | |
Brian was this very talented, unusual guy who played all these things, | 0:49:21 | 0:49:26 | |
which gave what we did a flavour. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:29 | |
But his involvement in the band dwindled. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
Keith and I took drugs, | 0:49:32 | 0:49:35 | |
but Brian took too many drugs of the wrong kind and he wasn't functioning as a musician. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:40 | |
I don't think he was that interested in contributing to the Rolling Stones any more. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:45 | |
We didn't even expect him to be there. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:49 | |
If he turned up, we'd find something for him to do, you know. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:54 | |
I'd ask him, you know, "What do you think about this? Do you want to put something over this?" | 0:49:54 | 0:49:59 | |
But, er... No, by then he was already in bye-bye land. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:05 | |
You certainly didn't know if he was going to turn up and what state he was going to be. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:10 | |
And then, what was he going to be able to do in that state? What job could you give him? | 0:50:10 | 0:50:15 | |
Then, one time, when we sat around on the floor, we played in a circle, | 0:50:15 | 0:50:19 | |
playing No Expectations. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:21 | |
He picked up the guitar and played very pretty lines on it, which you can hear on the record. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:26 | |
Eight. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:27 | |
MELLOW GUITAR STRUMS | 0:50:27 | 0:50:32 | |
BRIAN'S BOTTLENECK GUITAR JOINS IN | 0:50:32 | 0:50:37 | |
And that was the last thing I remember him doing | 0:50:40 | 0:50:44 | |
that was Brian, or the Brian that could contribute something | 0:50:44 | 0:50:48 | |
very pretty and sensitive. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:50 | |
And it made the record sound wonderful. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
# Take me to the station | 0:51:03 | 0:51:07 | |
# And put me on a plane | 0:51:07 | 0:51:13 | |
# I've got no expectations | 0:51:13 | 0:51:18 | |
# To pass | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
# Through here | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
# Again... # | 0:51:24 | 0:51:25 | |
My ultimate aim in life was never to be a pop star. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
I enjoy it... | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
Er, with reservations. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:33 | |
But, erm, I'm not really sort of satisfied, | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
either artistically or personally. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
# Now I am so poor | 0:51:39 | 0:51:42 | |
# But never in my sweet short life | 0:51:42 | 0:51:48 | |
# Have I | 0:51:48 | 0:51:50 | |
# Been so sad | 0:51:50 | 0:51:53 | |
# Before... # | 0:51:53 | 0:51:56 | |
Let's face it... | 0:51:56 | 0:51:58 | |
The future as a Rolling Stone is very uncertain. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:02 | |
'I remember Mick and Keith saying, "We can't go on like this. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:11 | |
'"We need another guy." And we did need somebody else. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:15 | |
'Do you remember what happened that day when you went over there? | 0:52:16 | 0:52:20 | |
'No, I can't remember. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:21 | |
'But I remember... | 0:52:21 | 0:52:24 | |
'It wasn't very nice.' | 0:52:24 | 0:52:26 | |
CHOIR: # I saw her today | 0:52:27 | 0:52:30 | |
# At a reception... # | 0:52:30 | 0:52:33 | |
It was a very, very difficult decision to make. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:36 | |
This is someone that you've spent the beginning of the band with. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:41 | |
And, I mean, it was horrible. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
We said to Brian that this isn't working out. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:50 | |
And he sort of said, "Yes, it isn't." | 0:52:50 | 0:52:52 | |
And it was very sad. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
And it was... I felt awful afterwards, I remember that. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
I felt really terrible. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
He was the author of his own misfortunes, really. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:08 | |
But when you look back on it now, you think, "Surely, we could have done something?" | 0:53:08 | 0:53:12 | |
And, you know, something more than just that. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
# You get what you need... # | 0:53:15 | 0:53:17 | |
MUSIC: "You Can't Always Get What You Want" by the Rolling Stones | 0:53:17 | 0:53:21 | |
We were working in the studio with Jimmy Miller. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:33 | |
And someone came in and said, "Brian's just died." | 0:53:33 | 0:53:37 | |
Everybody just looked at each other and goes... | 0:53:38 | 0:53:41 | |
"Finally." | 0:53:41 | 0:53:43 | |
It was almost like it was bound to happen, one way or another. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:50 | |
It was a horrible moment. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
I don't know how many months later that was from when we went down to see him. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:58 | |
He died three weeks later. | 0:53:58 | 0:54:00 | |
Fuck! | 0:54:00 | 0:54:01 | |
NEWS REPORTER: 'About midnight, Jones went for a swim with his Swedish girlfriend, Anna Wohlin, | 0:54:02 | 0:54:07 | |
'and another friend, Mr Frank Thorogood. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:10 | |
'After a time, Mr Thorogood and the girl went back to the house. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:14 | |
'When they returned, they saw Jones at the bottom of the pool and they pulled him out.' | 0:54:14 | 0:54:18 | |
# You can't always get what you want | 0:54:18 | 0:54:23 | |
# You can't always get what you want | 0:54:24 | 0:54:28 | |
# You can't always get what you want | 0:54:29 | 0:54:34 | |
# But if try you sometimes | 0:54:35 | 0:54:38 | |
# You might find | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
-# You get what you need -Ne-e-e-ed! # | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
CHOIR HOLD THE NOTE | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
No, it doesn't hit you straight away. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
I think my first reaction was, "Oh, Briano! For all of the things we've been through!" | 0:54:58 | 0:55:03 | |
It's, er... | 0:55:03 | 0:55:05 | |
You know, "You don't have to croak over it!" | 0:55:05 | 0:55:07 | |
You know what I mean? | 0:55:07 | 0:55:09 | |
-Was there a reason you didn't attend his funeral? -Yeah. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:15 | |
It was going to be too much of a circus. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:18 | |
And, anyway, I... I never went to my mother's funeral, or my father's. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:23 | |
They didn't have one. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:26 | |
We're like that, my family. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:28 | |
My dad is now an oak tree. Put his ashes, you know... | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
And there's an enormous oak tree growing and every year it gets a little bigger. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:36 | |
And my mum, she said, "Don't make no fuss over me, boy!" | 0:55:36 | 0:55:40 | |
"I promise I'll make no fuss, Mum." | 0:55:41 | 0:55:44 | |
But Hyde Park was the funeral. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:49 | |
And the bit about burying and the shovels and all of that, | 0:55:49 | 0:55:53 | |
it's not that important to me. That was his funeral. | 0:55:53 | 0:55:57 | |
The Hyde Park concert was two days after Brian died, | 0:55:57 | 0:56:01 | |
in front of almost half a million people in London. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:04 | |
The concert had become in his memory, | 0:56:04 | 0:56:07 | |
when it, obviously, hadn't been planned like that. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:10 | |
But it had assumed that feeling. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
That morning of the concert, | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
they all met in my suite. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:19 | |
Mick was in the corner and he was in tears. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:22 | |
I said, "Mick... | 0:56:23 | 0:56:24 | |
"You've got to just toughen up and move on. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:28 | |
"That's all you do. That's all we can do. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:30 | |
"We just move on and do what we planned to do." | 0:56:30 | 0:56:33 | |
-COCKNEY LAD: -The Stones are real-life people, not like The Beatles, | 0:56:48 | 0:56:51 | |
with these seven days in bed and they're true to life. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
They're totally anti-establishment and everybody in the establishment has always bugged the Stones. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:59 | |
And people have that feeling for them. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
What do you make of all this? As a member of the elder generation, | 0:57:01 | 0:57:05 | |
do you think it's out of place here? | 0:57:05 | 0:57:07 | |
Er... Of course, in a way, yes. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:10 | |
Of course! | 0:57:10 | 0:57:11 | |
What about your wife? What do you make of this, madam? | 0:57:12 | 0:57:16 | |
-That's not my wife. -It's not your wife? I'm very sorry! | 0:57:16 | 0:57:18 | |
And you see Hyde Park covered in people. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:21 | |
And you know the normal view, you know, grass. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:24 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:57:24 | 0:57:27 | |
And we hadn't been on stage for a year or so, you know, and it was like, er... | 0:57:27 | 0:57:32 | |
Talk about going... | 0:57:32 | 0:57:34 | |
..into the deep end! | 0:57:35 | 0:57:37 | |
You know, "Oh, let's try a club or two first!" | 0:57:37 | 0:57:40 | |
No! Boom! Hyde Park. Half a million. | 0:57:40 | 0:57:43 | |
And, er... But I think it was a good baptism of fire for Mick Taylor. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:48 | |
HE LAUGHS RASPINGLY | 0:57:48 | 0:57:51 | |
CROWD CHEERS WILDLY | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
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