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"Reader, I married him."

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It's one of the most iconic lines in all of English literature.

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Jane Eyre, Charlotte Bronte's poor, orphaned, neglected heroine, has

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finally married the man she loves, Rochester, and on her own terms.

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As a teenager, and a debut novelist myself at 16,

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I was intrigued by Jane Eyre.

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Like many millions of readers before me, I immersed myself in her

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world of loss and suffering, striving and redemption.

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Charlotte Bronte's heroine got everything she wanted,

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and without compromising her principles.

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Or did she?

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Revisiting Bronte's classic novel now,

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my reaction couldn't be more different.

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I find the book so much more disturbing

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and darker than my teenage memory of it.

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'In this film, I want to go back to Charlotte Bronte's original

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'manuscript, examine early writing...'

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Oh, my God!

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'..and uncover personal correspondence which reveals

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'experiences that shape the book's narrative.'

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You can almost tell that the hand is clenched.

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'And I want to test out my ideas about the book

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'and its central character with experts.'

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Actually, Jane Eyre is revolutionary in her demands.

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Oh! I don't agree at all.

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Well, I think you're right that Jane Eyre isn't just a love story.

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It's full of violence, frustration and repressed desire.

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As a protagonist, Jane Eyre is one of the great literary characters,

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but I want to know, how much of a heroine is she?

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"I am glad you are no relation of mine.

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"I will never call you aunt again so long as I live.

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"I will never come to see you when I'm grown up, and if anyone asks me

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"how I liked you and how you treated me, I will say the very thought

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"of you makes me sick, and that you treated me with miserable cruelty.

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"How dare you affirm that, Jane Eyre?

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"How dare I, Mrs Reed? How dare I? Because it is the truth."

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I love that.

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Jane Eyre was only ten years old when she finally snapped

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and confronted Mrs Reed,

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the cruel aunt who turned a blind eye to Jane's bullying cousins.

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When I first read the novel, I loved this orphan girl who was angry,

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outspoken, and acutely aware of injustice.

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I admired her emotional independence

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and her total determination to make her own way in the world, even

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when she was sent away to a brutal boarding school.

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At 18, Jane Eyre becomes a governess at Thornfield Hall.

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It's where the central love story of the novel begins -

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Jane's relationship with the master of the house.

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Her employer is the mercurial and tormented Edward Rochester.

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Charlotte Bronte describes "his stern features,

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"his heavy brow, his considerable breadth of chest."

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This was my first copy of Jane Eyre from when I was a teenager,

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and to prove it to you... there you go,

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October 1996 with a vintage doodle from my teen years.

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And this is my teenage bedroom, where I read Jane Eyre

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for the first time, on that bed.

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And not only that but, looking through it now, I see that

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I clearly went through it highlighting all of the dirty bits!

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"You examine me, Miss Eyre, said he, Do you think me handsome?"

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But she goes, "No, sir."

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She refuses to compromise or demean herself even though it's

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quite obvious that she's attracted to him too.

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As a young reader, I was rooting for her all the way.

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I got just as wrapped up

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in the love story element of the novel as she did.

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When Charlotte Bronte wrote her great love story

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between Jane Eyre and Rochester, she wanted her writing to be judged

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on merit, and not with any reference to her gender,

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not least because she was writing frankly about female desire.

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'Bronte was 30 years old when Jane Eyre was published in 1847,

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'under the guise of an autobiography edited by Currer Bell -

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'a pseudonym adopted by Charlotte Bronte.

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'The book was an overnight sensation.

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'Today, the British Library has the only surviving manuscript.'

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I can't believe that we're sitting in front of an original

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manuscript of Jane Eyre written by Charlotte Bronte herself.

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The handwriting is so precise, the whole thing seems immaculate

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and neat, as though this is all very thought through.

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She would hesitate to choose the right word, or the right

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expression, just to get it right.

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I'm just astonished that these

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pages do give off a kind of atmosphere, don't they?

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Yeah, they do, definitely.

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It's beautifully, beautifully neat,

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and this is the fair copy of the manuscript.

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We know that she would start out writing in pencil on lots

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of little sheets and then she would work from those

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and produce the fair copy, which is what the publishers were sent.

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Bronte's manuscript shows how careful

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and considered she was with the writing of her novel.

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But intimate letters survive that reveal a far more emotionally

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unrestrained side to the author.

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One of the most significant periods in Charlotte Bronte's life

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was in the early 1840s, when she travelled to Brussels to

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study languages, and we know that she fell in love

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with Monsieur Heger.

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He was the married professor of literature who taught

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Charlotte Bronte.

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Heger was the first man outside her family who'd actually recognised

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her genius and she responded to him in a very passionate way.

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It's a really formative period in her life.

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And before I cast my eyes upon this letter,

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I just have to know, was it reciprocated?

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No. No.

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From the first paragraph, it says it's been six months

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and she's going over the date of her last letter that she wrote him.

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They came to an agreement that she would only write one letter

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every six months, and when she kept that agreement,

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and he still didn't respond, she would fire back with quite

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an angry, passionate sort of pent up letter.

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Yeah. You can almost tell that the hand is clenched,

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the writing hand is absolutely clenched.

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Well, I don't think I can puzzle out any more of the French,

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because it's so tiny.

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This is a translation of the letter.

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"I will tell you candidly that during this time of waiting I've tried to

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"forget you, and when one has suffered this kind of anxiety

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"for one or two years" - years! - "one is ready to do anything

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"to regain peace of mind."

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This is her first sort of crush, really.

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I think it's more than a crush.

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"When a dreary and prolonged silence seems to warn me

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"that my master is becoming estranged from me,

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"I lose my appetite and my sleep - I pine away."

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The thing that strikes me immediately is that she refers

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-to him as "my master", which is exactly what Jane Eyre...

-Yes.

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..does to Edward Rochester. She calls him "my master" throughout.

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Heger played a huge part in the shaping of Rochester's character,

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and the relationship between Jane.

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But does he torment her deliberately in a way that...

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I think he did.

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Yeah, he was aware of his power over his pupils,

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and particularly over Charlotte Bronte.

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How long did it take her to write Jane Eyre?

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It took her... From starting it to actually sending the fair copy

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to the publishers, it was 12 months.

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And it was not long after the Brussels period.

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We know the Thornfield section of the novel

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was completed in three weeks.

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So it seems like she was very confident.

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And that this was coming from very deep inside?

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Coming from very deep inside her, yeah.

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This passion for her teacher in Brussels clearly inspired

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the writing of Jane Eyre.

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But for Bronte's fictional love story,

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she would choose a much grander setting suited to the melodramatic

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reworking of her own emotional experiences.

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Bronte's novel is famously set against the epic backdrop

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of the Yorkshire moors.

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And this fortified manor house has been used as a film location

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for many dramatised versions of the book.

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In my imagination, and that of countless readers and film goers,

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this could be Edward Rochester's ancestral home, Thornfield Hall.

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It's the perfect stage for Charlotte Bronte's Gothic story

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of fairytale, horror and magical revelation.

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Part of the power of the book lies in the way Bronte combines

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these disparate genre styles with realistic storytelling.

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Re-reading the book now, the darkness seems much more

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oppressive, widespread and disturbing.

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Far from the heady romance I read as a teen, I now see the relationship

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between Rochester and Jane Eyre as an extremely abusive one,

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especially in the way he exploits his position of authority over her.

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Throughout the novel, Rochester refers to Jane as "little".

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And she submissively calls him "master".

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Ultimately, she's presented as accepting of his aggression

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and of her own dependence and emotional subordination.

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Bronte writes,

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"His presence in a room was more cheering than the brightest fire.

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"Yet I had not forgotten his faults - indeed,

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"I could not, for he brought them frequently before me."

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And there's nothing romantic about Rochester's marriage proposal

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to her. He says, "Jane, will you marry me?

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"You - poor and obscure, and small and plain as you are - I entreat

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"you to accept me as a husband".

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These are words that the self-effacing Jane has used

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to describe herself to Rochester before.

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And she replies to him, "Are you in earnest?

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"Do you truly love me?

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"Do you sincerely wish me to be your wife?"

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But then all her dreams come crashing down -

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Rochester's already married.

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He's been lying to her throughout and he's hidden his mad wife,

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Bertha, in the attic.

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Jane faces a stark choice - stay with Rochester

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and be his mistress or follow her convictions and her dignity,

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even if it means letting go of the man she loves.

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Jane flees Thornfield - she's by herself and she has nothing.

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Jane says, "I may be poor and plain and alone, but I care for myself."

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She's aware that if she becomes Rochester's mistress,

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she loses not only her respectability but her self-respect.

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'This is where I wished Jane had stayed strong

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'and seen the last of Rochester.

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'Although an unexpected inheritance brings her financial independence,

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'she chooses to return to him a year later.

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'But the novel is not so kind to her former master.

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'As his home is engulfed in flames,

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'he's crippled and robbed of his sight.

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'It's as though Bronte has given him his karmic punishment.'

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Rochester's blind and he's been maimed trying to save

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Bertha from the devastating fire she caused at Thornfield.

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Bertha dies, leaving Rochester free to finally marry Jane.

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'With fairytale neatness, it's all very convenient.

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'Not only is Bertha out of the way forever,

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'but Jane's fortunes have risen while Rochester's have fallen.'

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Many readers see an equality between Jane

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and Rochester by the end of the novel.

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But I'm afraid I don't accept that at all.

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She revels in serving this man and I think she exults at Bertha's demise.

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'I want to take Charlotte Bronte and her creation, Jane Eyre,

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'to task, and find out more about the heroine who has resonated

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'with so many readers, but has left me with so many doubts.

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'I've come to the lifelong home of the Brontes,

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'in Haworth, West Yorkshire.

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'It's where Charlotte lived with her literary sisters, Anne and Emily,

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'and where she completed Jane Eyre - her most successful novel.'

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One of the things I've always loved about Jane Eyre is her anger

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and she will answer back to anyone who mistreats her, and I feel almost

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that when she gets to Thornfield, she becomes curiously submissive.

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I am disturbed by the... I see you wincing in pain there!

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..as soon as she gets to Thornfield, because in sweeps Mr Rochester,

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and from then on I feel like she is sort of magnetised by him,

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and he begins to torment, tease, flirt with her,

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and I'm reading it thinking, where is that child that stood by herself?

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Well, I think first of all, this is an education novel.

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You know, it's a bildungsroman and so it is about a character

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changing and maturing, and I think that the whole thing is that

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she's not just going to give into her anger.

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When it comes to Mr Rochester, it's not just a love story,

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it's really about her asserting herself

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and refusing to submit to someone else's will.

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I mean, he might call her his little bird,

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but she resists him all the time.

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Oh, I don't agree at all.

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Jane strikes me as this completely damaged, broken individual

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and I think that's what happens when you've grown up

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-and nobody has shown you even a shred of love...

-Yes, yes.

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..and it's this that leads her into this very sadomasochistic

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relationship with Rochester.

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One of the first things she likes when she meets Rochester

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is he falls from the horse and she helps him up and she says,

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"I felt glad... I wasn't... My existence had become less passive,

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"I was doing something to help him."

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And that was her big gripe about 19th century lives for women.

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But you see, but, but that, to me, is the ultimate in female masochism,

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which is, "I love him because he needs me."

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That's - you've just said it right there.

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And at no point does Jane really judge Rochester.

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But she also says, "I won't be a slave in your harem,

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"I will be stirring up the slaves to liberty."

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I mean, this is a theme about her character

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striving for a kind of mental equality with a man.

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And it was so unusual that after about a year of people saying,

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"Isn't this a fantastic novel?" people starting saying, hmm,

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this is the sort of same kind of mind-set which created

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the 1848 revolution, Chartism, this sort of overturning of barriers.

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This is what creates revolution all over the world.

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And, yes, actually, Jane Eyre is revolutionary in her demands,

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and I think she maintains that despite being very,

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very attracted to Mr Rochester.

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This is a mould breaking heroine.

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'So, maybe I'm not giving Charlotte Bronte enough

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'credit for challenging convention

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'and pushing for female identity and passion to be taken seriously.

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'And there was a radicalism too in the style of the book.

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'The intimate first person

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'autobiographical voice was itself pioneering.

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'Its interior perspective would inspire later

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'generations of novelists.

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'But one aspect of Bronte's writing which still raises many

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'questions for me is her attitude to race.

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'As a child, she grew up during a time when slavery

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'in the British Empire was nearing its end.

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'I'm keen to know how the debate that raged around the trade

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'might have informed her literary imagination.

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'The British Library has some rare examples of Bronte's early

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'writing, which show how she first imagined life in the colonies.'

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So, this is the manuscript of The Foundling.

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It's one of Charlotte Bronte's juvenilia.

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But, but you're being so careful with it,

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-makes me think it's incredibly fragile.

-It is.

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This is absolutely amazing.

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This tells me that Charlotte Bronte was really ambitious,

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-to be published out in the world with a proper book.

-Yes, certainly.

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And you can tell that by the sheer exuberance of her signature.

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I mean, that's the biggest thing on this first page.

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Verdopolis.

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That was the name of this African colonial state where

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many of the stories were set.

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So it's incredibly politically charged.

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Yeah, I mean, I think the way she presents a colony is very much

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in line with the way she would have read about the colonies.

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I'll just turn the page,

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because I think you get a better sense then of it.

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Oh, my God! Are those real...

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That really is really tiny writing.

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..letters. It's so small, it's sort of like ants marching

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-across the page. And yet each letter is perfect.

-Yes. Oh, yes!

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I find it completely fascinating that this teenager, really,

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is writing at a time

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when in the outer world there is a huge amount of social change

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happening around the abolition of slavery and this seems to

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have filtered through to the young Charlotte Bronte in this story.

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Yeah, I think what you will see here, if we just turn the page,

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is that you have a description of this, of Verdopolis, of this...

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This colonial state.

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..this colonial city, which she describes here as

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"that splendid city with such graceful haughtiness."

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So, she's really taking on the role of the coloniser?

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Yes, I think she definitely portrays this world

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probably in a way that she would have read about it

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in the Victorian period in which she grew up.

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Do you think there's much of a social conscious in this?

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I'm feeling that she's rather on the side of the colonials

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who were going over to civilise the heathens.

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In The Foundling, in particular,

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there isn't a huge amount from the perspective of the native residents

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of Verdopolis, but I think she certainly has an awareness of them.

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So, there's that kind of involvement with colonial life.

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But I don't think it's always clear exactly what her view is.

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While a clear view on colonialism

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and race may be absent from the writing of the young Bronte,

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in my mind, the view revealed by the adult Bronte is much clearer.

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When I re-read Jane Eyre, one of the most marked differences

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was in my reaction to the treatment of Bertha,

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Rochester's infamous mad wife in the attic.

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As a young reader, I didn't see her as anything other than

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an obstacle to the happy conclusion of Jane's love story.

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The thought of Bertha locked up

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didn't excite any sympathy in me or, frankly, in Jane herself.

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Nor did I question that Rochester may have used Bertha for her money.

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Bertha came from a wealthy family,

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and Rochester met her in the West Indies.

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Bertha is Creole, we're not sure if she's black or mixed race,

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but she's described as dark skinned,

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something which has negative connotations throughout the novel.

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When Jane first lays eyes on her, her description is vivid

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and extremely telling.

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She says that Bertha is,

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"Fearful and ghastly with a discoloured face, a savage face.

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"The lips were swelled and dark.

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"Black eyebrows widely raised over the bloodshot eyes."

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The way Bronte kills Bertha off couldn't be more violent.

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She has her jumping to her death from the fire that she

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herself caused at Thornfield.

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Years before her demise at Thornfield,

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it's likely that Bertha and Rochester's journey from Jamaica

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would have ended here in Liverpool a city

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with a long and contentious history of trading with the colonies.

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Something I realised when I was re-reading Jane Eyre is

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I didn't read it as a love story this time.

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To me, it was about race and foreignness,

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particularly in the depiction of Bertha Mason,

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the first wife who's been locked up in the attic.

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Well, I think you're right that Jane Eyre isn't just a love story.

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I mean, I think it is a love story,

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but like, like all of Bronte's

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novels, it's full of violence and frustration and repressed desire.

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But it's true that the novel's attitudes to Bertha

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I think are very ambivalent.

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Do you think that the novel

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is coming down on the side of colonialism?

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Oh, yes, we know that Charlotte herself was a deeply

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conservative woman, she was a Tory.

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Her father was a Tory.

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Her father was an Anglo-Irish Anglican parson who was

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a Conservative.

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So, I'm quite sure that in terms of her own politics, that would be

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true, that she would not be critical of colonialism at all,

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but novels are delicate and ambiguous and slippery things.

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And what novelists themselves believe may not always be identical

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with what they show and what they dramatise.

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So, I think that, yeah, she would have, she would have,

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she would have approved of colonialism,

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but themes of subjugation - not least the subjugation of women -

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themes of victimisation, exploitation,

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are rife throughout the novel.

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She does, of course, show the image of an exploited woman in Bertha.

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Even if she doesn't see her that way, we can see her that way,

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which gives us a very different view of the situation.

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I'm very interested in the idea of Charlotte Bronte's conservatism

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because, throughout the novel, she's going on about how

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she demands equality, she wants to be seen as a person.

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And yet, all her politics, all her ferocity, actually fail

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when it comes to talking about international matters and slavery

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and colonialism, even though she is acutely aware of women's suffering.

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Well, I'm not sure one would, that it would be reasonable

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to expect a 19th century governess like Jane, you know,

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or even Charlotte, to be aware of that wider world.

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But she sure is aware of the politics on her own doorstep.

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Bertha does in a way represent a lot of guilt

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and a lot of exploitation and a lot of frustration and desire which

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are there in English society as a whole, and Bertha's the monstrous

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incarnation of all this, which in one sense is repellent,

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because that society doesn't want to acknowledge its roots

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in colonial exploitation.

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On the other hand, there's something about the exotic,

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the dark the unknown, the adventurous...

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As ever! Oh, these, well, these are classic notions...

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-..which of course is very effective.

-These are classic notions.

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Absolutely. If you're saying that Bertha is a hideous stereotype,

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for sure, I mean, no argument.

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I don't think you're necessarily misreading Bertha.

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I do think you're rather concentrating too much on her,

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cos she's one element in a very complex novel,

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and I don't think the novel can be reduced to its pretty odious

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treatment of Bertha, yes, because there's something in that

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kind of madness, in that kind of female madness in particular, which

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calls very deeply to Charlotte, I think, and to, and to Jane.

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'When I started out,

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'I was really questioning how much of a heroine Jane Eyre is.'

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I'm now not just beginning to mellow towards her,

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I have to admit, I actively admire her.

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Bronte gave voice to a female desire and sexuality

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in a ground-breaking and influential literary form, conveying Jane Eyre's

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experiences through a captivating and original, personal perspective.

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I must admit, though, I am still horrified by the depiction

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and treatment of the character of Bertha, but maybe that's me

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judging Charlotte Bronte by my 21st-century politicised values.

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'While I realise that Bronte was reflecting

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'some of the prejudices of her time,

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'the novel still allows for multiple nuanced readings, and at its heart

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'is a radical plea for women to have greater equality with men.

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'It's been so rewarding exploring this novel and its ambiguities,

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'teasing out what it is that keeps pulling me back.

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'And the answer is the same now as when I first read

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'the book as a teenager - the complex character of Jane Eyre.

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'The moral dilemmas of her world

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'are so convincingly brought to life that her story continues

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'to both inspire and provoke, nearly two centuries after it was written.'

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