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"Reader, I married him." | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
It's one of the most iconic lines in all of English literature. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:15 | |
Jane Eyre, Charlotte Bronte's poor, orphaned, neglected heroine, has | 0:00:15 | 0:00:21 | |
finally married the man she loves, Rochester, and on her own terms. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:27 | |
As a teenager, and a debut novelist myself at 16, | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
I was intrigued by Jane Eyre. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
Like many millions of readers before me, I immersed myself in her | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
world of loss and suffering, striving and redemption. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:47 | |
Charlotte Bronte's heroine got everything she wanted, | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
and without compromising her principles. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
Or did she? | 0:00:54 | 0:00:55 | |
Revisiting Bronte's classic novel now, | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
my reaction couldn't be more different. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
I find the book so much more disturbing | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
and darker than my teenage memory of it. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
'In this film, I want to go back to Charlotte Bronte's original | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
'manuscript, examine early writing...' | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
'..and uncover personal correspondence which reveals | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
'experiences that shape the book's narrative.' | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
You can almost tell that the hand is clenched. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
'And I want to test out my ideas about the book | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
'and its central character with experts.' | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
Actually, Jane Eyre is revolutionary in her demands. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
Oh! I don't agree at all. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:45 | |
Well, I think you're right that Jane Eyre isn't just a love story. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
It's full of violence, frustration and repressed desire. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
As a protagonist, Jane Eyre is one of the great literary characters, | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
but I want to know, how much of a heroine is she? | 0:02:00 | 0:02:05 | |
"I am glad you are no relation of mine. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
"I will never call you aunt again so long as I live. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
"I will never come to see you when I'm grown up, and if anyone asks me | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
"how I liked you and how you treated me, I will say the very thought | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
"of you makes me sick, and that you treated me with miserable cruelty. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
"How dare you affirm that, Jane Eyre? | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
"How dare I, Mrs Reed? How dare I? Because it is the truth." | 0:02:45 | 0:02:50 | |
I love that. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
Jane Eyre was only ten years old when she finally snapped | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
and confronted Mrs Reed, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:00 | |
the cruel aunt who turned a blind eye to Jane's bullying cousins. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:05 | |
When I first read the novel, I loved this orphan girl who was angry, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:11 | |
outspoken, and acutely aware of injustice. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
I admired her emotional independence | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
and her total determination to make her own way in the world, even | 0:03:17 | 0:03:22 | |
when she was sent away to a brutal boarding school. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
At 18, Jane Eyre becomes a governess at Thornfield Hall. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:34 | |
It's where the central love story of the novel begins - | 0:03:35 | 0:03:40 | |
Jane's relationship with the master of the house. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
Her employer is the mercurial and tormented Edward Rochester. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:51 | |
Charlotte Bronte describes "his stern features, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
"his heavy brow, his considerable breadth of chest." | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
This was my first copy of Jane Eyre from when I was a teenager, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
and to prove it to you... there you go, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
October 1996 with a vintage doodle from my teen years. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:12 | |
And this is my teenage bedroom, where I read Jane Eyre | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
for the first time, on that bed. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
And not only that but, looking through it now, I see that | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
I clearly went through it highlighting all of the dirty bits! | 0:04:23 | 0:04:28 | |
"You examine me, Miss Eyre, said he, Do you think me handsome?" | 0:04:29 | 0:04:34 | |
But she goes, "No, sir." | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
She refuses to compromise or demean herself even though it's | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
quite obvious that she's attracted to him too. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
As a young reader, I was rooting for her all the way. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
I got just as wrapped up | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
in the love story element of the novel as she did. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
When Charlotte Bronte wrote her great love story | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
between Jane Eyre and Rochester, she wanted her writing to be judged | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
on merit, and not with any reference to her gender, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
not least because she was writing frankly about female desire. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:14 | |
'Bronte was 30 years old when Jane Eyre was published in 1847, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:24 | |
'under the guise of an autobiography edited by Currer Bell - | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
'a pseudonym adopted by Charlotte Bronte. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
'The book was an overnight sensation. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
'Today, the British Library has the only surviving manuscript.' | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
I can't believe that we're sitting in front of an original | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
manuscript of Jane Eyre written by Charlotte Bronte herself. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:53 | |
The handwriting is so precise, the whole thing seems immaculate | 0:05:53 | 0:05:58 | |
and neat, as though this is all very thought through. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
She would hesitate to choose the right word, or the right | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
expression, just to get it right. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
I'm just astonished that these | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
pages do give off a kind of atmosphere, don't they? | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
Yeah, they do, definitely. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
It's beautifully, beautifully neat, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
and this is the fair copy of the manuscript. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
We know that she would start out writing in pencil on lots | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
of little sheets and then she would work from those | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
and produce the fair copy, which is what the publishers were sent. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:34 | |
Bronte's manuscript shows how careful | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
and considered she was with the writing of her novel. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
But intimate letters survive that reveal a far more emotionally | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
unrestrained side to the author. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
One of the most significant periods in Charlotte Bronte's life | 0:06:50 | 0:06:55 | |
was in the early 1840s, when she travelled to Brussels to | 0:06:55 | 0:07:00 | |
study languages, and we know that she fell in love | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
with Monsieur Heger. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:05 | |
He was the married professor of literature who taught | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
Charlotte Bronte. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:10 | |
Heger was the first man outside her family who'd actually recognised | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
her genius and she responded to him in a very passionate way. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:21 | |
It's a really formative period in her life. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
And before I cast my eyes upon this letter, | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
I just have to know, was it reciprocated? | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
No. No. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:33 | |
From the first paragraph, it says it's been six months | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
and she's going over the date of her last letter that she wrote him. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
They came to an agreement that she would only write one letter | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
every six months, and when she kept that agreement, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
and he still didn't respond, she would fire back with quite | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
an angry, passionate sort of pent up letter. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
Yeah. You can almost tell that the hand is clenched, | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
the writing hand is absolutely clenched. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
Well, I don't think I can puzzle out any more of the French, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
because it's so tiny. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:06 | |
This is a translation of the letter. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
"I will tell you candidly that during this time of waiting I've tried to | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
"forget you, and when one has suffered this kind of anxiety | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
"for one or two years" - years! - "one is ready to do anything | 0:08:16 | 0:08:22 | |
"to regain peace of mind." | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
This is her first sort of crush, really. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
I think it's more than a crush. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:28 | |
"When a dreary and prolonged silence seems to warn me | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
"that my master is becoming estranged from me, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
"I lose my appetite and my sleep - I pine away." | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
The thing that strikes me immediately is that she refers | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
-to him as "my master", which is exactly what Jane Eyre... -Yes. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
..does to Edward Rochester. She calls him "my master" throughout. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
Heger played a huge part in the shaping of Rochester's character, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
and the relationship between Jane. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
But does he torment her deliberately in a way that... | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
I think he did. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
Yeah, he was aware of his power over his pupils, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
and particularly over Charlotte Bronte. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
How long did it take her to write Jane Eyre? | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
It took her... From starting it to actually sending the fair copy | 0:09:12 | 0:09:17 | |
to the publishers, it was 12 months. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
And it was not long after the Brussels period. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
We know the Thornfield section of the novel | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
was completed in three weeks. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
So it seems like she was very confident. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
And that this was coming from very deep inside? | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
Coming from very deep inside her, yeah. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
This passion for her teacher in Brussels clearly inspired | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
the writing of Jane Eyre. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
But for Bronte's fictional love story, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
she would choose a much grander setting suited to the melodramatic | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
reworking of her own emotional experiences. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
Bronte's novel is famously set against the epic backdrop | 0:10:06 | 0:10:11 | |
of the Yorkshire moors. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:12 | |
And this fortified manor house has been used as a film location | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
for many dramatised versions of the book. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
In my imagination, and that of countless readers and film goers, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
this could be Edward Rochester's ancestral home, Thornfield Hall. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:32 | |
It's the perfect stage for Charlotte Bronte's Gothic story | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
of fairytale, horror and magical revelation. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:43 | |
Part of the power of the book lies in the way Bronte combines | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
these disparate genre styles with realistic storytelling. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
Re-reading the book now, the darkness seems much more | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
oppressive, widespread and disturbing. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
Far from the heady romance I read as a teen, I now see the relationship | 0:11:03 | 0:11:08 | |
between Rochester and Jane Eyre as an extremely abusive one, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
especially in the way he exploits his position of authority over her. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:17 | |
Throughout the novel, Rochester refers to Jane as "little". | 0:11:21 | 0:11:26 | |
And she submissively calls him "master". | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
Ultimately, she's presented as accepting of his aggression | 0:11:31 | 0:11:36 | |
and of her own dependence and emotional subordination. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:41 | |
Bronte writes, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:43 | |
"His presence in a room was more cheering than the brightest fire. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:49 | |
"Yet I had not forgotten his faults - indeed, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
"I could not, for he brought them frequently before me." | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
And there's nothing romantic about Rochester's marriage proposal | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
to her. He says, "Jane, will you marry me? | 0:12:03 | 0:12:10 | |
"You - poor and obscure, and small and plain as you are - I entreat | 0:12:12 | 0:12:17 | |
"you to accept me as a husband". | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
These are words that the self-effacing Jane has used | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
to describe herself to Rochester before. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
And she replies to him, "Are you in earnest? | 0:12:31 | 0:12:36 | |
"Do you truly love me? | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
"Do you sincerely wish me to be your wife?" | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
But then all her dreams come crashing down - | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
Rochester's already married. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
He's been lying to her throughout and he's hidden his mad wife, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:57 | |
Bertha, in the attic. | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
Jane faces a stark choice - stay with Rochester | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
and be his mistress or follow her convictions and her dignity, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
even if it means letting go of the man she loves. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
Jane flees Thornfield - she's by herself and she has nothing. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:23 | |
Jane says, "I may be poor and plain and alone, but I care for myself." | 0:13:23 | 0:13:30 | |
She's aware that if she becomes Rochester's mistress, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
she loses not only her respectability but her self-respect. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
'This is where I wished Jane had stayed strong | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
'and seen the last of Rochester. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
'Although an unexpected inheritance brings her financial independence, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
'she chooses to return to him a year later. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
'But the novel is not so kind to her former master. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
'As his home is engulfed in flames, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
'he's crippled and robbed of his sight. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
'It's as though Bronte has given him his karmic punishment.' | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
Rochester's blind and he's been maimed trying to save | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
Bertha from the devastating fire she caused at Thornfield. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
Bertha dies, leaving Rochester free to finally marry Jane. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:23 | |
'With fairytale neatness, it's all very convenient. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
'Not only is Bertha out of the way forever, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
'but Jane's fortunes have risen while Rochester's have fallen.' | 0:14:32 | 0:14:37 | |
Many readers see an equality between Jane | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
and Rochester by the end of the novel. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
But I'm afraid I don't accept that at all. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
She revels in serving this man and I think she exults at Bertha's demise. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:53 | |
'I want to take Charlotte Bronte and her creation, Jane Eyre, | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
'to task, and find out more about the heroine who has resonated | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
'with so many readers, but has left me with so many doubts. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:09 | |
'I've come to the lifelong home of the Brontes, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
'in Haworth, West Yorkshire. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
'It's where Charlotte lived with her literary sisters, Anne and Emily, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
'and where she completed Jane Eyre - her most successful novel.' | 0:15:19 | 0:15:24 | |
One of the things I've always loved about Jane Eyre is her anger | 0:15:28 | 0:15:33 | |
and she will answer back to anyone who mistreats her, and I feel almost | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
that when she gets to Thornfield, she becomes curiously submissive. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:42 | |
I am disturbed by the... I see you wincing in pain there! | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
..as soon as she gets to Thornfield, because in sweeps Mr Rochester, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:51 | |
and from then on I feel like she is sort of magnetised by him, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
and he begins to torment, tease, flirt with her, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
and I'm reading it thinking, where is that child that stood by herself? | 0:15:59 | 0:16:04 | |
Well, I think first of all, this is an education novel. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
You know, it's a bildungsroman and so it is about a character | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
changing and maturing, and I think that the whole thing is that | 0:16:12 | 0:16:17 | |
she's not just going to give into her anger. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
When it comes to Mr Rochester, it's not just a love story, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
it's really about her asserting herself | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
and refusing to submit to someone else's will. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
I mean, he might call her his little bird, | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
but she resists him all the time. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:34 | |
Oh, I don't agree at all. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
Jane strikes me as this completely damaged, broken individual | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
and I think that's what happens when you've grown up | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
-and nobody has shown you even a shred of love... -Yes, yes. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:48 | |
..and it's this that leads her into this very sadomasochistic | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
relationship with Rochester. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
One of the first things she likes when she meets Rochester | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
is he falls from the horse and she helps him up and she says, | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
"I felt glad... I wasn't... My existence had become less passive, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
"I was doing something to help him." | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
And that was her big gripe about 19th century lives for women. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
But you see, but, but that, to me, is the ultimate in female masochism, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
which is, "I love him because he needs me." | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
That's - you've just said it right there. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
And at no point does Jane really judge Rochester. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
But she also says, "I won't be a slave in your harem, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
"I will be stirring up the slaves to liberty." | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
I mean, this is a theme about her character | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
striving for a kind of mental equality with a man. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
And it was so unusual that after about a year of people saying, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
"Isn't this a fantastic novel?" people starting saying, hmm, | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
this is the sort of same kind of mind-set which created | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
the 1848 revolution, Chartism, this sort of overturning of barriers. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:47 | |
This is what creates revolution all over the world. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
And, yes, actually, Jane Eyre is revolutionary in her demands, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
and I think she maintains that despite being very, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
very attracted to Mr Rochester. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
This is a mould breaking heroine. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
'So, maybe I'm not giving Charlotte Bronte enough | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
'credit for challenging convention | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
'and pushing for female identity and passion to be taken seriously. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:17 | |
'And there was a radicalism too in the style of the book. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
'The intimate first person | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
'autobiographical voice was itself pioneering. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
'Its interior perspective would inspire later | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
'generations of novelists. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
'But one aspect of Bronte's writing which still raises many | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
'questions for me is her attitude to race. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:46 | |
'As a child, she grew up during a time when slavery | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
'in the British Empire was nearing its end. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
'I'm keen to know how the debate that raged around the trade | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
'might have informed her literary imagination. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
'The British Library has some rare examples of Bronte's early | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
'writing, which show how she first imagined life in the colonies.' | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
So, this is the manuscript of The Foundling. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
It's one of Charlotte Bronte's juvenilia. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
But, but you're being so careful with it, | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
-makes me think it's incredibly fragile. -It is. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
This is absolutely amazing. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
This tells me that Charlotte Bronte was really ambitious, | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
-to be published out in the world with a proper book. -Yes, certainly. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
And you can tell that by the sheer exuberance of her signature. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
I mean, that's the biggest thing on this first page. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
Verdopolis. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:47 | |
That was the name of this African colonial state where | 0:19:47 | 0:19:53 | |
many of the stories were set. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:54 | |
So it's incredibly politically charged. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
Yeah, I mean, I think the way she presents a colony is very much | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
in line with the way she would have read about the colonies. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
I'll just turn the page, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:04 | |
because I think you get a better sense then of it. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
Oh, my God! Are those real... | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
That really is really tiny writing. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
..letters. It's so small, it's sort of like ants marching | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
-across the page. And yet each letter is perfect. -Yes. Oh, yes! | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
I find it completely fascinating that this teenager, really, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:24 | |
is writing at a time | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
when in the outer world there is a huge amount of social change | 0:20:26 | 0:20:31 | |
happening around the abolition of slavery and this seems to | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
have filtered through to the young Charlotte Bronte in this story. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
Yeah, I think what you will see here, if we just turn the page, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
is that you have a description of this, of Verdopolis, of this... | 0:20:42 | 0:20:47 | |
This colonial state. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:48 | |
..this colonial city, which she describes here as | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
"that splendid city with such graceful haughtiness." | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
So, she's really taking on the role of the coloniser? | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
Yes, I think she definitely portrays this world | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
probably in a way that she would have read about it | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
in the Victorian period in which she grew up. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
Do you think there's much of a social conscious in this? | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
I'm feeling that she's rather on the side of the colonials | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
who were going over to civilise the heathens. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
In The Foundling, in particular, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
there isn't a huge amount from the perspective of the native residents | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
of Verdopolis, but I think she certainly has an awareness of them. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
So, there's that kind of involvement with colonial life. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
But I don't think it's always clear exactly what her view is. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
While a clear view on colonialism | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
and race may be absent from the writing of the young Bronte, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
in my mind, the view revealed by the adult Bronte is much clearer. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:48 | |
When I re-read Jane Eyre, one of the most marked differences | 0:21:54 | 0:21:59 | |
was in my reaction to the treatment of Bertha, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
Rochester's infamous mad wife in the attic. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
As a young reader, I didn't see her as anything other than | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
an obstacle to the happy conclusion of Jane's love story. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
The thought of Bertha locked up | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
didn't excite any sympathy in me or, frankly, in Jane herself. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:22 | |
Nor did I question that Rochester may have used Bertha for her money. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:28 | |
Bertha came from a wealthy family, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
and Rochester met her in the West Indies. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
Bertha is Creole, we're not sure if she's black or mixed race, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:46 | |
but she's described as dark skinned, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
something which has negative connotations throughout the novel. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
When Jane first lays eyes on her, her description is vivid | 0:22:53 | 0:22:58 | |
and extremely telling. | 0:22:58 | 0:22:59 | |
She says that Bertha is, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:02 | |
"Fearful and ghastly with a discoloured face, a savage face. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:08 | |
"The lips were swelled and dark. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
"Black eyebrows widely raised over the bloodshot eyes." | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
The way Bronte kills Bertha off couldn't be more violent. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
She has her jumping to her death from the fire that she | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
herself caused at Thornfield. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
Years before her demise at Thornfield, | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
it's likely that Bertha and Rochester's journey from Jamaica | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
would have ended here in Liverpool a city | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
with a long and contentious history of trading with the colonies. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
Something I realised when I was re-reading Jane Eyre is | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
I didn't read it as a love story this time. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
To me, it was about race and foreignness, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
particularly in the depiction of Bertha Mason, | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
the first wife who's been locked up in the attic. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
Well, I think you're right that Jane Eyre isn't just a love story. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
I mean, I think it is a love story, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
but like, like all of Bronte's | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
novels, it's full of violence and frustration and repressed desire. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:19 | |
But it's true that the novel's attitudes to Bertha | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
I think are very ambivalent. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
Do you think that the novel | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
is coming down on the side of colonialism? | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
Oh, yes, we know that Charlotte herself was a deeply | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
conservative woman, she was a Tory. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
Her father was a Tory. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:35 | |
Her father was an Anglo-Irish Anglican parson who was | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
a Conservative. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:40 | |
So, I'm quite sure that in terms of her own politics, that would be | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
true, that she would not be critical of colonialism at all, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
but novels are delicate and ambiguous and slippery things. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
And what novelists themselves believe may not always be identical | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
with what they show and what they dramatise. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
So, I think that, yeah, she would have, she would have, | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
she would have approved of colonialism, | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
but themes of subjugation - not least the subjugation of women - | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
themes of victimisation, exploitation, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
are rife throughout the novel. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
She does, of course, show the image of an exploited woman in Bertha. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
Even if she doesn't see her that way, we can see her that way, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
which gives us a very different view of the situation. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
I'm very interested in the idea of Charlotte Bronte's conservatism | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
because, throughout the novel, she's going on about how | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
she demands equality, she wants to be seen as a person. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
And yet, all her politics, all her ferocity, actually fail | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
when it comes to talking about international matters and slavery | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
and colonialism, even though she is acutely aware of women's suffering. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
Well, I'm not sure one would, that it would be reasonable | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
to expect a 19th century governess like Jane, you know, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:51 | |
or even Charlotte, to be aware of that wider world. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
But she sure is aware of the politics on her own doorstep. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
Bertha does in a way represent a lot of guilt | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
and a lot of exploitation and a lot of frustration and desire which | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
are there in English society as a whole, and Bertha's the monstrous | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
incarnation of all this, which in one sense is repellent, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
because that society doesn't want to acknowledge its roots | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
in colonial exploitation. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
On the other hand, there's something about the exotic, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
the dark the unknown, the adventurous... | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
As ever! Oh, these, well, these are classic notions... | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
-..which of course is very effective. -These are classic notions. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
Absolutely. If you're saying that Bertha is a hideous stereotype, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
for sure, I mean, no argument. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
I don't think you're necessarily misreading Bertha. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
I do think you're rather concentrating too much on her, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
cos she's one element in a very complex novel, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
and I don't think the novel can be reduced to its pretty odious | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
treatment of Bertha, yes, because there's something in that | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
kind of madness, in that kind of female madness in particular, which | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
calls very deeply to Charlotte, I think, and to, and to Jane. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
'When I started out, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
'I was really questioning how much of a heroine Jane Eyre is.' | 0:27:04 | 0:27:09 | |
I'm now not just beginning to mellow towards her, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
I have to admit, I actively admire her. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
Bronte gave voice to a female desire and sexuality | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
in a ground-breaking and influential literary form, conveying Jane Eyre's | 0:27:21 | 0:27:26 | |
experiences through a captivating and original, personal perspective. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:31 | |
I must admit, though, I am still horrified by the depiction | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
and treatment of the character of Bertha, but maybe that's me | 0:27:38 | 0:27:43 | |
judging Charlotte Bronte by my 21st-century politicised values. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:49 | |
'While I realise that Bronte was reflecting | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
'some of the prejudices of her time, | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
'the novel still allows for multiple nuanced readings, and at its heart | 0:27:56 | 0:28:02 | |
'is a radical plea for women to have greater equality with men. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:07 | |
'It's been so rewarding exploring this novel and its ambiguities, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:13 | |
'teasing out what it is that keeps pulling me back. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
'And the answer is the same now as when I first read | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
'the book as a teenager - the complex character of Jane Eyre. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
'The moral dilemmas of her world | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
'are so convincingly brought to life that her story continues | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
'to both inspire and provoke, nearly two centuries after it was written.' | 0:28:32 | 0:28:38 | |
To dig deeper into Charlotte Bronte's Jane Eyre, | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
and the other books in this series, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
a free app from the Open University is available to download. Go to: | 0:28:46 | 0:28:53 | |
..and follow the links to the Open University. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 |