Episode 1 Hugh's War on Waste


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We are spending more money than ever before

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to get what we want, when we want it.

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But we're paying a high price for our world of infinite choice.

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How long do you think it takes the whole of Britain to throw

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away seven tonnes of clothes?

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Especially when it comes to food.

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Millions of people in Britain are struggling to pay their food bills.

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Yet a third of all the food we produce never gets eaten.

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That has to be wrong.

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Oh, my God. You do get a better class of waste at Waitrose.

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Oh, beautiful pears!

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With your help, I want to do something about it.

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Who or what is telling you that these can't go

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to your supermarket clients?

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The supermarkets themselves.

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I want to persuade our biggest corporations

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to stop wasting millions of tones of food.

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You are throwing away one million birds a year.

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What do you think of that figure?

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And I want to see what we can do to waste less food ourselves.

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Look at that. That's naughty.

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I think there's at least one good tea left in here.

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I don't think you should throw it away.

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Because what we chuck away at home

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is costing the average British family £700 a year.

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That's out of date, that can go.

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12th of August.

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It's only the 12th of August today and you're throwing them out.

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It's time to start a rubbish revolution!

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We're currently throwing away, at home,

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over 4 million tonnes of perfectly good food.

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That's 88 million of these wheelie bins full of food

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that's perfectly good to eat, and we're chucking it away.

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Our supermarkets certainly know how to sell us stuff.

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We pile up our trolleys with multipacks and special offers,

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but most of us buy food that we're never going to eat.

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And on average, we end up binning a day's worth every week.

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So today, I'm going to save a few people the trouble

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of taking home the food they will end up throwing away.

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Excuse me.

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Can I just talk to you for a couple of minutes about your shopping?

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-Yeah, go on.

-Yeah? OK.

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So 16% of the food we take home we throw away.

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Do you recognise yourself in that statistic?

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A little bit?

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Do you throw some of your food away?

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Er...Yeah.

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-Like when it goes past its sell-by date.

-Yeah.

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To save you the trouble of taking it home...

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Go on.

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..I thought we could throw some of your food away right here.

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Right.

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So, for example, have you by any chance got any carrots here today?

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-Yes, yes.

-So a quarter of the carrots we buy

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are thrown away at home. So can we start by binning one of your carrots?

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Go on, why not?

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Thank you very much.

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Take one of my carrots!

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Two and a half kilos of potatoes.

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Quarter of all of them.

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But you were going to throw them away anyway.

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That seems fair, doesn't it? One more for luck.

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Have you got a salad?

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You can't open that!

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-Really sorry.

-Oh!

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Look, a third of all our boxed and bagged salads,

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a third of them...

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-..get chucked away.

-Why did you pick on me?!

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Terrific start.

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We throw away a surprising amount of milk.

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Oh, no! Oh, don't.

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-Just a little slosh.

-Oh, that's terrible.

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What have you got here?

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That's me mother's! That's me mother's.

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Do not take it. She loves bread.

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We're throwing away 25%.

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So, that's about that much.

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Maybe a bit more.

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Ah, grapes. You've got grapes.

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It's about 20%. Just shake a few off.

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Oh!

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You only bought half a cucumber.

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Yeah, and it was reduced.

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I'm going to reduce it a bit more.

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-Do you know we throw away 10% of all our yogurt?

-OK.

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More than one of these goes in the bin.

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I'll let you off with one. Just don't punch me!

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HE LAUGHS

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Taking people's food off them when they've just bought it

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is really difficult, but nationally this percentage of our shopping,

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of our food, is being binned.

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So whether we do it here, or whether they do it at home

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at the end of the week when it doesn't look so good,

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the waste is the same.

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-Do you know why I'm throwing your food away?

-No.

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Cos that's what people do. They throw their food away.

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Cereals. 10%.

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10%?

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One in six.

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10% of cheese.

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5% of all our biscuits.

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Strawberries.

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13%!

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You should be able to do something with that.

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Yeah, I'm thinking of a recipe even now.

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Even taking relatively small amounts of food off people

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and binning them feels horrible.

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It just brings it home to me what a shocking amount of food

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and therefore money we are all wasting.

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I'll be coming back to Manchester looking for ways to reduce

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the amount we chuck away at home.

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But we're only part of the problem.

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Millions of tonnes of perfectly good food is being destroyed

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before it even leaves the farm.

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I got in touch with over 50 UK farmers who supply all

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the major supermarkets.

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But, for some reason, hardly any of them wanted to talk on camera.

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One of the few exceptions was Norfolk veg farmers, the Hammonds.

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They've been growing parsnips on Tattersett Farm

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for three generations.

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Olly and his mum, Debs, are harvesting and packing parsnips

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seven days a week, but the business is up against it.

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The price of a small bag of parsnips has dropped by 30p in five years.

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But a big part of the problem is the parsnips

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that aren't making it into these bags.

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Now, we're looking for two sizes here, Hugh.

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We're looking for a pre-packed size.

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And then we're also looking for the larger loose size

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-but that's wonky, so that won't go in.

-You see, I love that.

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-I love that curve on that.

-Yeah, but that can't go in.

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-That one's too big.

-Too big? What's wrong with that one?

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-Too short

-Too short?!

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Far too short.

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They're all too small.

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Almost all supermarket fruit and veg is graded

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using strict cosmetic standards that define, to the millimetre,

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exactly what's acceptable.

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Some of the produce that fails this beauty contest can be sold

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as animal feed or used in other products like soup or salad.

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But the rest is left to rot, or else ploughed back into the ground.

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-Your professional pickers here have rejected that.

-The shape.

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-The shape?

-You're top-heavy.

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-Such a lovely parsnip.

-Wonky.

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So do you feel that today you're looking at a crop

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that's grading quite well?

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Yes, this is a good crop. So we're very lucky.

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Yeah ,we're quite pleased with how this field's turned out.

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I guess one of the things that's a bit sad about this process is

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we're not even looking for the bad ones and chucking them away.

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We're searching for the beautiful ones

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and everything else is getting rejected.

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That just seems to me the wrong way round.

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Am I allowed to put that one on?

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Borderline, Hugh.

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Borderline. You see it?

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When Deb says "borderline" I know she means "no" but I hope

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I don't get that this whole lot sent back but, for me, that's going in.

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I don't care what anyone says. It's too good not to.

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-But it's too short, Hugh.

-Is it?

-Yep.

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Ah.

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According to Olly, most farmers are just too scared

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to speak out and criticise the supermarkets that pay them.

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And though there's always going to be veg that gets rejected

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because it's not up to scratch, losing so many crops

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to cosmetic standards is the final straw for the Hammonds.

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-Are you effectively producing at cost at the moment?

-Yes, yes.

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-Do you expect to make a profit on the farm this year?

-No, no.

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-None.

-None.

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Really? How long's it been like that?

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Probably longer than is good for us as a family business.

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If this continues, what's the future?

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Closure, basically.

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-Arguably, you should be pulling the plug right now.

-Yep, yep.

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If grandfather was around today he would have said,

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"Guys, you've done your best, you're up against the odds now.

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"Let's call it a day."

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What's the point coming up here seven days a week

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to do this for nothing?

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Just to keep my girls in, you know, a place of work?

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You're upset, aren't you?

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SHE SNIFFLES

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Sorry!

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That's all right.

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That's all right.

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I mean...

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-..they're such great products, aren't they?

-Mm.

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And they're grown with so much passion.

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Where's Olly gone?

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Oh, he's upset too, now.

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It's a big fight.

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A big, big fight.

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Olly's grandfather started the farm in the 1970s.

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Back then, he never had to waste crops because of cosmetic standards.

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And now the Hammond family are close to calling it a day.

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It's not a pretty sight, for my eyes, anyway.

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No.

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It's far too much.

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Just under a week's worth here.

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That's less than a week?

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Yeah. Less than a week, yeah.

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Are you sure you're not over-reacting

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to their instructions just a little?

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No. If we sent an order in one day with these parsnips

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it would get rejected and returned to us the next day.

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-Really?

-Yeah.

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Any idea what the total tonnage, that's your full week's waste,

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how many tonnes is that?

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You're looking at nearly 20 tonnes of waste parsnips.

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We haven't yet mentioned the name of the supermarket you mainly supply.

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Are you happy to tell me who they are?

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-Yeah. For sure.

-So who are these parsnips being supplied to?

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They were destined for Morrisons.

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Is that the only supermarket you supply?

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-Yes.

-OK.

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Of course, Morrisons are not the only supermarket

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whose cosmetic standards cause massive waste on our farms.

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It's happening all over Britain, wasting not just food,

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but all the energy, resources and manpower that goes into producing it.

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28 shopping trolleys full.

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And from here it doesn't even look like we've made a dent in your pile.

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-No.

-Such a waste.

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Imagine how many people we could feed.

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Yeah, I know.

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-We might have done a tenth? Probably not even.

-No.

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-Say we've just done a tenth.

-Yeah.

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Then we'd have 280 if we did the whole lot.

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280 trolleys - that would go right through that gate down to the road.

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-Yeah.

-And every single one is edible.

-Yeah.

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Absolutely shocking.

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I'm going to chase Morrisons for an interview

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so they can put their side of the story.

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And I think we should be challenging all the supermarkets

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to step up and address this crazy waste of food.

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But if we want them to listen to us,

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then I think we have to be ready to do our bit at home, too.

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I've selected Gardner Road in Prestwich, Greater Manchester,

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to be part of a nine-week experiment.

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I want to see if I can help the residents here

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to stop throwing away so much food.

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Before I tell them what I'm up to, I'm going to have a sneaky peek

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at exactly what they're throwing away.

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Ooh! Heaviest so far.

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Full to overflowing.

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-Do you want a hand with that?

-Yeah, no, I've got it!

-You all right?

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It's very, very full though.

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A lot of foodie stuff in here.

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Look at that, that's naughty.

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Two days out of date.

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I could have spun a meal out of that.

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Eggy bread for breakfast. Bread pudding.

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I didn't come to Prestwich to find Britain's most disgusting bins.

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I came because they're no better or worse than the rest of us,

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which means most of the families here

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are binning about 15 quid's worth of food a week.

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Couple of onion bhajis here, Alan. Look good enough to eat. You hungry?

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Help yourself!

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Hello, you're loitering. Is that something else for the bin?

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It is, yeah.

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What is it?

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Bit of food.

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That's got another two weeks to go.

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-Two weeks to go. It's not...

-I know, but it's been opened.

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How long has it been opened?

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About three days?

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Do you know what that smells like to me?

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Good bacon. Good bacon!

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OK, what about the eggs?

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They're out of date.

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Yesterday?! You know there is a trick

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-for how you can tell whether eggs are fresh?

-No.

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You put them in a bowl of water

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and if they sink to the bottom, they're completely fresh.

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If they float to the top, chuck 'em.

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You don't trust me, do you?

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I didn't know that!

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I think there's at least one good tea left in here.

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-I don't think you should throw it away.

-OK.

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-Is that all right?

-Yeah.

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-Thank you, Karen.

-OK.

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-You really want to get rid of it, don't you? Not today!

-Bye!

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Bye, Karen! Meanwhile, I'll get rid of this.

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Thank you.

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I'm convinced that, armed with a few thrifty recipes,

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Karen and the rest of Gardner Road can waste less food

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and save money in to the bargain.

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But tasty ingredients aren't the only things

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popping up in the grey bins.

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Surely that's too good to throw away?

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You'll be able to go out tonight.

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It won't go with your boots!

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Have we missed you, sir?

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-How's the recycling going?

-Fine.

-Yeah? Not bad.

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So there's nothing in this bin that shouldn't be in there?

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RUBBISH CLATTERS

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Clang! What was that?

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I don't know!

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You might think we've all got pretty good at recycling these days

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but more than half of what we're chucking in our general waste

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isn't meant to be there.

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Oh, my God!

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And I want to see what else we've collected this morning.

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-Shall we dive in?

-Yeah.

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Well, maybe not dive in, but have a closer look?

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Yeah, certainly.

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There's plenty more food in this mountain of trash,

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along with huge amounts of tins, bottles, jars and plastic.

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-That is a quality saucepan.

-Unbelievable, isn't it?

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Measuring jugs.

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This is all good charity shop stuff.

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We're a wasteful society.

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But most shocking perhaps are the piles and piles

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of decent-looking clothes.

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That looks really, nearly new.

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And this is typical of every street in Britain.

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When you bundle all our wasted clothes together

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we're chucking away just under 1,000 tonnes every day.

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The government's spent millions trying to get us to sort our rubbish.

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But clearly the message isn't hitting home.

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And we are wasting a spectacular amount of good, usable stuff.

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Because once it's in the grey bins,

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everything we chuck away is usually incinerated, or buried in landfill.

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I don't think we're even close to getting halfway through

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the pile yet.

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And I can't help wondering whether the community that produced

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all this waste in the first place, if they had a second look at it

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like this, they might just think again about all this great stuff

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they're chucking, and all this recycling that they're not doing.

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So, I'm not only asking the residents of Gardner Road

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to stop wasting good food.

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I'm going to challenge them to reform

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their rubbish habits across the board,

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and become top recyclers as well.

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-Evening. How you doing?

-All right, thanks.

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I'm Hugh.

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Would you all like to gather around?

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Don't be shy.

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Now, I've already been pounding the streets in Prestwich.

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Just in this corner around these houses,

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and I bumped into one or two of you yesterday,

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but I looked a little bit different.

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And, yes, I started taking your bins apart.

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I found some really unusual things.

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Lovely pair of fluffy slippers.

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They were a bit slimy, to be honest,

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but we've popped them in the wash, given them a blow-dry

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and they've come up all lovely and shiny and almost new.

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Look at these. Aren't they sweet?

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Absolutely brand-new porcelain piglets.

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Could they find love, these three piglets? Yes!

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All of this stuff was collected from your dustbins but if anyone

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here tonight wants to take it home, that's absolutely fine by us.

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-Yes?

-Do you want that TV screen?

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LAUGHTER

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So the rubbish revolution starts here

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in this quiet corner of Greater Manchester.

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You've really looted the place, haven't you?

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You're not going home empty-handed.

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I'll be posting recipes on Twitter and Facebook to help them

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rescue food they might otherwise be tempted to chuck.

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Is that not working for you?

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-I'm not going to lie. Not really.

-OK.

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-I'll take this.

-You can take him home!

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And I want to persuade them to stop binning clothes, furniture, toys

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and anything that can be recycled.

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So I'm just going to ask you.

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Who is up for seeing what we can do to change the way

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Britain deals with waste?

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-ALL:

-Yeah!

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A couple of no's at the front.

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LAUGHTER

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I know it's a big ask.

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But if they can get their rubbish sorted here

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then it could be a blueprint for the rest of Britain to waste less, too.

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Of course, I also need to talk to the guys who didn't come to the park,

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the ones who, like many of us, I suspect,

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are a bit sceptical about whether recycling really makes a difference.

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And I've had a tip-off that a woman called Kelly, who works in

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a local cafe, is already convinced my rubbish revolution is, well, rubbish.

0:20:060:20:12

-Do you two work together?

-Yeah.

-THAT is Kelly's rubbish.

-Correct.

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-And that's how you do it.

-Yeah.

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You've got plastic bottles, food, tin cans, lots of paper, teabags...

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They're not lonely, they're all together. It's easy.

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One bag, in the bin, done.

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-And then do you come along and re-sort that out?

-Yeah.

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-Who's the boss, if I might ask?

-Me.

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And what do you think of the way she does it?

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She drives me mad!

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-So how come you haven't fired her yet?

-Cos she loves me!

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Don't you think that looks...?

0:20:430:20:46

It looks neat, but what's the difference? It's rubbish.

0:20:460:20:49

Kelly's been talking to her customers in the cafe,

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and she thinks I haven't got a hope

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of getting the whole community to improve their recycling.

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So, have you heard about this local campaign to try

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and get everyone in the community to...?

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I don't think that we should really do it, to be fair, by ourselves.

0:21:040:21:08

I don't think it should be our job.

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We pay council tax, we pay a lot of things. It should be their job.

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-OK, you think they're all wasting their time?

-Yeah.

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What do you think happens to it in the end?

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It all gets crushed together.

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-So you're not convinced that it's even being recycled?

-No.

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So plastic bottles, tin cans, glass, it all ends up in the same place?

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Yep.

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-They're lying to you?

-Yeah, like always.

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As far as I can tell, Kelly's mind is made up.

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Recycling IS rubbish.

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What I don't know is how many people think like that

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because, actually, if most people think like that,

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well, recycling actually hasn't got a chance.

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I'm on the lookout for a few more local sceptics like Kelly

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and I'm hatching a plan to challenge their scepticism head-on.

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But if wasting good materials makes no sense,

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then dumping good food while millions of people in Britain

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are going hungry is surely completely immoral.

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A little while ago I visited Tattersett Farm.

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Their huge pile of parsnips is just a tiny fraction of the produce

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being wasted in the UK, all because, according to the supermarkets,

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we won't buy veg that doesn't look perfect.

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It's putting families and generations of farmers

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out of business.

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Before I tangle with one of our most powerful retailers,

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I want to understand more about cosmetic standards

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and the problems they're causing our farmers.

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So I'm meeting Tristram Stewart,

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founder of an organisation called Feedback,

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which, for the last six years, has been fighting to get supermarkets

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to reduce their waste.

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I've seen shockingly huge piles of waste, not just of waste,

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but of good food. I mean, you would have to look close

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to see what the problem with them is.

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And even then I think you'd have to be an expert or a machine

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to tell the difference between those parsnips

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and the parsnips that end up on our supermarket shelves.

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Their policies are causing hidden mountains of food waste

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of which this is one example across the country.

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These are cabbages and the problem there was

0:23:170:23:20

the outer leaves were not up to spec.

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And this is the entire field.

0:23:230:23:24

This isn't just a few - the entire field was written off.

0:23:240:23:27

Now, what's wrong with these apples, Hugh?

0:23:270:23:29

I don't know. Too delicious? Too rosy and gorgeous?!

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Ah! The rosy thing is part of it. So supermarkets actually specify

0:23:330:23:36

exactly how much redness should appear on different varieties of apple.

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-so these are either too red or not red enough.

-Exactly.

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It strikes you immediately as a problem that's solvable

0:23:420:23:45

and then you think how mad it is that it still hasn't been solved.

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We've proved that the public will buy

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so-called "cosmetically imperfect" fruit and vegetables.

0:23:510:23:54

In 2012, 300,000 tonnes of "ugly", cosmetically imperfect

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fruit and vegetables from British farms were sold.

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And was there something unusual about that year?

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It was a really bad harvest. The same thing happened, 2000, 2008.

0:24:060:24:10

We lost 40% of the potatoes in this country.

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We didn't import any additional potatoes,

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we just put into our supermarkets

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all those "ugly" potatoes that previously would have been rejected.

0:24:180:24:22

Without telling the public?

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No-one even noticed.

0:24:240:24:26

-Really?

-No-one noticed, potato sales remained the same.

0:24:260:24:30

No-one got more complaints about potatoes.

0:24:300:24:32

That's a matter of record, is it?

0:24:320:24:34

Absolutely, the bottom line is that those cosmetic standards

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are far too strict, and the obvious solution is they need to be relaxed.

0:24:390:24:45

-It doesn't sound that hard, really, when you put it like that.

-No!

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We have to tell the supermarkets that to cause waste on this scale

0:24:480:24:52

is criminal. It's unspeakable, in fact.

0:24:520:24:55

Dear Morrisons...

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In the past year, 70% of farmers who took part

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in an anonymous survey had issues with the way they are

0:25:030:25:06

treated by Britain's biggest retailers. And Tristram is clear

0:25:060:25:10

that all the major supermarkets are implicated.

0:25:100:25:13

But the Hammonds are the only ones

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speaking out and they supply just one retailer - Morrisons.

0:25:160:25:20

So, for now, I'm putting the spotlight on them.

0:25:200:25:23

I've had a pretty swift reply from Morrisons, which is great.

0:25:230:25:27

And it's quite brief, which is never a bad thing.

0:25:270:25:30

"Please would you ask the producer to get in touch with me

0:25:300:25:32

"so I can understand the issue in more detail?"

0:25:320:25:35

I've got a couple of issues here.

0:25:350:25:38

He wants to talk to the producer, that's you.

0:25:380:25:41

He thinks I'm not good enough,

0:25:410:25:42

he thinks...perhaps he thinks I don't understand the issues.

0:25:420:25:46

If he's going to understand the issues, he needs a proper producer,

0:25:460:25:49

not just a pretty face.

0:25:490:25:51

It's not that complicated.

0:25:510:25:53

Supermarkets are wasting a phenomenal amount of food

0:25:530:25:57

and what are we going to do about it?

0:25:570:25:59

Hi, it's Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall here, James.

0:25:590:26:02

I hope you don't mind that it's me and not my producer.

0:26:020:26:05

So you think there is a possibility of a filmed interview with

0:26:050:26:08

someone from Morrisons at the farm in Norfolk that we visited?

0:26:080:26:12

That's terrific.

0:26:120:26:13

Thank you. Bye-bye.

0:26:160:26:18

I have to say, almost too easy for me.

0:26:190:26:22

I was hoping for a bit more combat, you know.

0:26:220:26:25

It isn't in the bag but it's promising.

0:26:260:26:28

And if Morrisons step up and really take on the waste problem,

0:26:280:26:32

then I think we can push the other supermarkets to follow.

0:26:320:26:35

But supermarkets are not the only corporate culprits

0:26:370:26:41

wasting food on our high street

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The catering industry throws away the equivalent of

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two billion meals every year.

0:26:490:26:51

Wrapped up in that grim statistic are millions of our farm animals.

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Fast-food chicken is a particularly pernicious problem.

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It takes at least 15 minutes

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to fry chicken pieces on the bone and,

0:27:080:27:10

because nobody wants to wait for fast food, it has to be ready

0:27:100:27:13

before customers walk in.

0:27:130:27:16

And whenever they cook too much, the extra is destined for the bin.

0:27:180:27:22

I just want to find out a little bit more about how much chicken

0:27:240:27:28

is being wasted by the fast-food industry and I think the best

0:27:280:27:32

way to start off is by asking the people who are selling it.

0:27:320:27:35

Chicken Valley's policy is two hours and then they throw it away.

0:27:380:27:43

But they reckon they only throw away a few pieces a day.

0:27:430:27:47

Do you have to throw away a lot of chicken every day?

0:27:470:27:49

-Not a lot.

-How much a day?

0:27:490:27:52

He thinks he's very good at knowing when he's busy

0:27:520:27:55

and so never more than ten pieces a day.

0:27:550:27:57

How much do you have to throw away every day?

0:27:590:28:02

-Two bags.

-Two dust bins?

-Yeah.

0:28:020:28:04

Definitely seems to be KFC that are a bit more gung ho about

0:28:040:28:07

what they throw away.

0:28:070:28:09

They throw away regularly throughout the day

0:28:090:28:11

and, at the end of the day, maybe there's a couple of bins full.

0:28:110:28:14

We eat over 60 million

0:28:140:28:16

fast-food chickens a year and KFC sell more of them

0:28:160:28:19

than anybody else.

0:28:190:28:22

So I'm wondering if they're wasting more too.

0:28:220:28:25

KFC waste.

0:28:250:28:28

But there are no official figures

0:28:280:28:30

about how much finger-licking chicken they're binning.

0:28:300:28:33

So I'm relying on second-hand information.

0:28:330:28:36

There's a figure that keeps cropping up online and I've

0:28:370:28:40

seen it in several articles and in various Twitter conversations

0:28:400:28:44

and it's reported that KFC are

0:28:440:28:47

wasting three tonnes of chicken a year

0:28:470:28:50

per branch. There are 850 branches in UK.

0:28:500:28:56

So 850 stores times 3,000 kilos of wasted chicken...

0:28:560:29:02

..gives me 2,550,000 kilos of chicken

0:29:040:29:11

that's being wasted by KFC a year.

0:29:110:29:14

I can say for certain that one kilo of chicken represents

0:29:150:29:19

at least one bird.

0:29:190:29:21

So that's over 2.5 million birds a year that are being farmed,

0:29:210:29:25

raised for Kentucky Fried Chicken, are being slaughtered,

0:29:250:29:30

processed, battered, diced, fried, put out into the warming tray

0:29:300:29:36

and then they go straight to the bin.

0:29:360:29:38

2.5 million chickens, that get farmed but never eaten.

0:29:380:29:42

KFC are part of one of the largest restaurant chains in the world,

0:29:450:29:48

worth over £20 billion

0:29:480:29:51

and they were quick to agree to give me an interview,

0:29:510:29:54

so perhaps they've already got this whole waste thing under control.

0:29:540:29:58

I must admit, I'm actually feeling quite nervous today.

0:29:580:30:02

I didn't get a lot of sleep last night.

0:30:020:30:05

My heart rate is up, my mouth is a bit dry.

0:30:050:30:08

I think there's something about the sheer size of this organization,

0:30:080:30:11

KFC, they're a huge global player.

0:30:110:30:13

I feel a little daunted to be taking them on.

0:30:160:30:18

I was expecting that they'd want the interview to

0:30:200:30:23

be at KFC HQ but they've invited me

0:30:230:30:26

to a modest branch underneath the Heathrow Airport flight path,

0:30:260:30:30

to meet their Head of Health, Safety and Environment, Janet Cox.

0:30:300:30:34

Well, I've got a few more minutes before I'm due to meet

0:30:340:30:37

Janet from KFC in the store here.

0:30:370:30:40

I'm just checking up on the website.

0:30:400:30:43

"If we haven't sold a product

0:30:430:30:44

"within 90 minutes of it being cooked,

0:30:440:30:47

"we will withdraw it from sale.

0:30:470:30:48

"In the past, this has meant some chicken is

0:30:480:30:50

"discarded even though it's still perfectly fine to eat."

0:30:500:30:54

"In the past."

0:30:540:30:56

That suggests, unambiguously, that the problem is solved.

0:30:560:31:00

Is it really?

0:31:000:31:01

Have I come here to hear about how KFC have already

0:31:010:31:04

solved their waste problem? I can't wait to find out.

0:31:040:31:07

-Hi, Janet.

-Pleased to meet you.

0:31:100:31:12

The first thing Janet wants me to know

0:31:120:31:14

is that the figures I got hold of on the internet have been misreported.

0:31:140:31:19

It's true that 2.7 tonnes of food is wasted by each store

0:31:190:31:24

but it's not all chicken.

0:31:240:31:25

Just less than half of that is actually chicken,

0:31:270:31:29

so the other half is made up of various other items that have

0:31:290:31:34

either gone past their use-by date or we're just unable to use.

0:31:340:31:37

I think we can still say

0:31:370:31:38

that you're throwing away one million birds a year.

0:31:380:31:42

-What do you think of that figure?

-So you're absolutely right.

0:31:420:31:45

It is a high figure and that is why we're doing everything

0:31:450:31:48

we can to...and looking at different ways

0:31:480:31:51

and how we can make sure that that chicken is reused in a positive way.

0:31:510:31:56

It turns out that KFC are piloting a scheme to donate unsold food

0:31:560:32:00

to local charities.

0:32:000:32:02

And, by happy coincidence, this is one of the stores in that scheme.

0:32:020:32:07

Chicken that would normally go in the bin is frozen

0:32:070:32:10

and then collected twice a week

0:32:100:32:13

-And you're giving it away?

-Yes.

0:32:130:32:15

It's all free for collection at the YMCA?

0:32:150:32:17

Yup. We're coming back for more.

0:32:170:32:19

Coming back? Keep it coming, Janet, did you hear that?

0:32:190:32:22

Keep that waste coming! These guys love it!

0:32:220:32:24

So the future of KFC waste redistribution in action.

0:32:260:32:30

Yes, absolutely.

0:32:300:32:32

-How handy that they just happened to pop in when I was here.

-Absolutely.

0:32:320:32:37

Giving away unsold food to those in need is a sound policy

0:32:370:32:41

for big food companies but

0:32:410:32:43

I want to know just how ambitious the Colonel's plans are.

0:32:430:32:47

How many restaurants have now started this redistribution scheme?

0:32:470:32:50

So we're currently in six restaurants.

0:32:500:32:52

Out of how many in the UK?

0:32:520:32:54

So in the UK at the moment we have around 870 KFC restaurants.

0:32:540:32:58

It's a long way to go, I mean, you're less than 1%.

0:32:580:33:02

-Where do you want to get to?

-We want to get to a point

0:33:020:33:04

where all...as many restaurants as possible...

0:33:040:33:06

You nearly said "all" there, Janet. What's wrong with all?

0:33:060:33:09

All sounds great to me.

0:33:090:33:10

So we do have...we know, on the work that we've done over the last year

0:33:100:33:14

or so, that there are a number of restaurants, due to location,

0:33:140:33:17

where there are not charities

0:33:170:33:19

located within close enough vicinity.

0:33:190:33:22

So they're going to be harder to crack...

0:33:220:33:23

-They will be harder to crack.

-..but what commitment can you give me?

0:33:230:33:26

Can you put a date on when you might get half done?

0:33:260:33:28

-End of 2016?

-Easily.

0:33:280:33:31

By the end of 2016 we will commit to being half of our restaurants.

0:33:310:33:37

Half of your restaurants, so well over 400. Well, you open

0:33:370:33:40

new ones all the time, so it's probably going to be

0:33:400:33:43

more than 450 KFCs by the end of 2016

0:33:430:33:46

will have a distribution charity thing in place

0:33:460:33:50

to help deal with the unsold food and prevent it going to waste.

0:33:500:33:54

That's the commitment I've made.

0:33:540:33:56

You've been very clear, which I wholly applaud, but can

0:33:560:33:59

I just contrast your clarity with some of the stuff on your website?

0:33:590:34:03

"If we haven't sold a product within 90 minutes

0:34:030:34:06

"we'll withdraw it from sale.

0:34:060:34:07

"In the past, this has meant some chicken is

0:34:070:34:10

"discarded, even though it's still perfectly fine to eat."

0:34:100:34:14

The use of the phrase "in the past",

0:34:140:34:16

it really does imply that you've solved this problem.

0:34:160:34:20

Whoever actually writes these things, can they take

0:34:200:34:22

a look at the phrases they've chosen and straighten them out a bit?

0:34:220:34:25

So that people, instead of getting the impression that you've really

0:34:250:34:28

solved this problem, get the honest confession that you've just started

0:34:280:34:34

looking at it and you're ambitious but you've got a long way to go.

0:34:340:34:37

I'm sure we can do that.

0:34:370:34:38

It is important that we keep our information

0:34:380:34:41

updated on our website to tell our customers

0:34:410:34:44

and all the general public what we are doing.

0:34:440:34:47

You couldn't be more on the record about that,

0:34:470:34:49

so I heartily congratulate you but look forward very much

0:34:490:34:52

to my return visit and seeing how you're doing on delivering it.

0:34:520:34:56

-Thank you.

-Thanks very much, Janet.

0:34:560:34:58

If companies like KFC can make changes to

0:35:010:35:04

reduce their waste,

0:35:040:35:05

then surely the whole food industry can step up to the challenge.

0:35:050:35:09

And I'll be back in six months to see how they're delivering

0:35:090:35:12

on their promise.

0:35:120:35:13

What's sometimes harder to understand is

0:35:150:35:17

how our small individual actions can make a big difference.

0:35:170:35:21

But I'm convinced that they really can.

0:35:210:35:23

And that's what I'm hoping to prove with my

0:35:240:35:27

rubbish revolution in Prestwich.

0:35:270:35:29

Morning. Because the biggest single cause of food waste

0:35:320:35:35

in the UK is still the four million tonnes that we throw away at home.

0:35:350:35:39

That's out of date, that can go.

0:35:420:35:45

9th of July!

0:35:450:35:46

I just forget what's in the fridge, really.

0:35:470:35:50

Bread, carrots, courgette, pate and tomatoes.

0:35:500:35:54

-Is that all being thrown out?

-Yes.

0:35:540:35:56

12th of August. It's only the 12th of August today

0:35:570:36:00

and you're throwing them out?

0:36:000:36:02

That can go, that can go, that can go. Bag's getting heavy.

0:36:020:36:06

We went in the shop yesterday for no reason whatsoever

0:36:060:36:10

and we came out with a bag full of just rubbish.

0:36:100:36:12

I suspect a little kitchen savvy could save most of us

0:36:150:36:19

a load of food and a decent pile of cash.

0:36:190:36:22

And I've persuaded Joanne and her husband Peter to let me

0:36:220:36:25

try and rescue some of the food they would normally throw away.

0:36:250:36:29

-What a lovely home.

-Thank you.

-Beautiful.

0:36:290:36:32

One of the reasons I've come to see you is cos

0:36:320:36:34

you say you throw away quite a lot of food. Is that the case?

0:36:340:36:37

-Yes, we do.

-Yes.

0:36:370:36:39

Well, if it's all right with you, I think we should get

0:36:390:36:41

-straight down to business.

-OK.

0:36:410:36:43

And I want to see all the food that you're even

0:36:430:36:46

-thinking about throwing away.

-Oh, dear.

0:36:460:36:49

That is a well-stocked fridge, Joanne.

0:36:490:36:52

You've got so much food here. How big's the family?

0:36:520:36:56

How many kids do you have?

0:36:560:36:58

Just one at home now.

0:36:580:36:59

But, unfortunately, my mind still cooks for six of us

0:36:590:37:04

because we have four grown-up children.

0:37:040:37:06

So you're three at home cooking for six?

0:37:060:37:08

-Absolutely.

-No wonder you've got leftovers.

0:37:080:37:10

We've got some panini.

0:37:100:37:12

A slightly stale panini.

0:37:120:37:15

Some mixed salad there.

0:37:150:37:18

Always the one that gets left over, yeah.

0:37:180:37:21

-Hummus, wrinkly tomatoes.

-Tomatoes, wrinkly.

0:37:210:37:24

Seeded batch.

0:37:240:37:26

OK, gosh. I'm running out of hands.

0:37:260:37:29

Oh!

0:37:290:37:30

-Don't worry. I've got it.

-Absolutely no problem.

-I've got it.

0:37:300:37:34

Let's get it on the table and then I'll rescue the grapes.

0:37:340:37:37

Joanne was about to chuck out

0:37:400:37:41

at least 15 quid's worth of food. That sounds like a lot

0:37:410:37:45

but if she's doing this every week, it's only just over the national

0:37:450:37:49

average and most of this haul is still perfectly good to eat.

0:37:490:37:53

The hummus is a few days past its date, OK.

0:37:540:37:58

-As is everything.

-As is everything.

0:37:580:38:01

-Have a sniff.

-Smells like hummus to me.

0:38:010:38:04

It smells like it did when it was fresh.

0:38:040:38:06

It smells fine, doesn't it? And I'd eat that as is, raw.

0:38:060:38:09

This is clearly fine.

0:38:090:38:10

It's gone a bit discoloured, though, hasn't it?

0:38:100:38:12

That's just a little bit of oxidation

0:38:120:38:14

because you've taken the lid off the package.

0:38:140:38:16

-So that's definitely back in the fridge.

-Thanks.

0:38:160:38:19

Hardly needed to go shopping.

0:38:190:38:22

Joanne spends up to 6 quid

0:38:240:38:26

a week on cartons of smoothies but it's so easy to make your own.

0:38:260:38:31

Just trim off the bruised bits of your tired fruit

0:38:310:38:33

and whizz the rest in a blender with yoghurt or juice.

0:38:330:38:37

Any extra fruit can be saved in the freezer,

0:38:370:38:40

where it'll keep for weeks.

0:38:400:38:42

And, because it's going to end up in the next smoothie, you don't

0:38:420:38:46

have to be too fussy about small blemishes.

0:38:460:38:48

What do you think might happen

0:38:490:38:51

if you ate a grape with a little brown spot on it?

0:38:510:38:53

What's your worst nightmare?

0:38:530:38:55

Actually, I suppose my worst nightmare would be that

0:38:550:38:58

I get some horrific disease from it.

0:38:580:39:00

Some illness, some sickness.

0:39:000:39:02

So if I promise you it won't do any harm at all,

0:39:020:39:06

-let's just judge it on taste.

-OK. Go for it.

0:39:060:39:09

HUGH LAUGHS

0:39:140:39:16

Actually, it's delicious.

0:39:160:39:18

For the last couple of years,

0:39:210:39:22

Joanne has been unwell, so Peter has taken on most of the domestic duties.

0:39:220:39:27

Peter's been an absolute rock and he has taken over not only going

0:39:280:39:33

to work full-time but actually doing a lot of the cooking as well.

0:39:330:39:36

-That's very good of you, well done.

-I'm filling up.

-You've stocked up.

0:39:360:39:39

I feel 100% better

0:39:390:39:41

and I would love to actually get back into cooking a little bit now.

0:39:410:39:47

What am I actually doing to prepare these beautiful wrinkly offerings?

0:39:470:39:52

-Well, they don't look brilliant, do they?

-No.

0:39:520:39:54

But there's a really good trick. Have you got a grater?

0:39:540:39:58

Yes, yes, I have a grater.

0:39:580:40:00

-Ah!

-There, what do you think of that?

0:40:000:40:03

I think that is fantastic. Absolutely fantastic.

0:40:030:40:06

Clever trick, huh?

0:40:060:40:07

So, from those three wrinkly, squashy tomatoes, we've got this lovely pulp.

0:40:070:40:12

You can rescue almost any bin-bound, bendy old veg

0:40:130:40:17

with a simple soup.

0:40:170:40:19

And even salad leaves that have lost their crunch can go in.

0:40:190:40:22

The chickpeas and garlic in the hummus will give the soup

0:40:250:40:28

more body and a nice kick.

0:40:280:40:30

Wow, look at that! It's like cream.

0:40:320:40:35

Can I tell you something?

0:40:350:40:36

I have never put hummus in a soup before in my life.

0:40:360:40:38

-Really?

-Never.

-Love it! That's brilliant.

0:40:380:40:42

Stale bread is better for croutons than fresh bread

0:40:420:40:45

because it absorbs less oil when fried.

0:40:450:40:48

-Ah, that is sweet.

-Wow!

0:40:490:40:50

You've made yourself a little crouton love heart.

0:40:500:40:53

-It's a piece of fried bread, isn't it?

-It is, you're right.

0:40:530:40:56

In Manchester, it's fried bread.

0:40:560:40:57

I would never believe,

0:40:570:40:58

if somebody showed those ingredients earlier on...

0:40:580:41:01

It didn't look very promising, did it?

0:41:010:41:02

..that they would be tasting like this. No.

0:41:020:41:04

Do you think you will do more cooking now with food

0:41:040:41:07

-that you would've otherwise have chucked?

-Yeah.

0:41:070:41:09

-Really?

-Honest truth. Yes, I do.

0:41:090:41:12

I actually think this is perhaps the impetus I've needed to get me

0:41:120:41:15

going today, so thank you very much.

0:41:150:41:18

Well, that would be brilliant. If that's the case, I'll be thrilled.

0:41:180:41:22

Yeah.

0:41:220:41:25

-Cheers, good health.

-Thank you.

0:41:250:41:27

Oh, that's good. I bet you don't throw a lot of that away.

0:41:270:41:30

No, there's none of that goes out of date.

0:41:300:41:32

With a little effort, we can all waste less and save more.

0:41:340:41:38

But I can't be checking the bins and fridges of all the houses

0:41:380:41:41

in my Prestwich experiment.

0:41:410:41:43

So I've started a social media page.

0:41:430:41:46

Wastenot Prestwich is officially up and running.

0:41:460:41:50

The local community have really engaged in social media

0:41:550:41:58

and they've been talking to each other on Twitter

0:41:580:42:01

and swapping tips on Facebook and I've been posting a few

0:42:010:42:05

tips of my own and a few recipes and it's all got really, really busy.

0:42:050:42:08

And that's very exciting and it suggests that some of them,

0:42:080:42:11

at least, are really, really engaged.

0:42:110:42:13

Just been in the fridge, pulled out the lettuce

0:42:150:42:18

and it's looking a little sad. We have a top tip.

0:42:180:42:21

If you add it to a bowl of water with ice in it,

0:42:220:42:26

it should be nice and crisp again.

0:42:260:42:28

Waste not, want not, Hugh.

0:42:280:42:31

And lovely Joanne has just posted a little video of herself

0:42:310:42:36

making a smoothie from that fruit that she was about to bin.

0:42:360:42:39

Have we got a jug that measures 100ml?

0:42:390:42:43

Please, don't measure 100 mill. No, you don't

0:42:430:42:46

have to measure 100 mill, Joanne.

0:42:460:42:48

I shouldn't have said that. I should have said slosh

0:42:480:42:51

a bit of orange juice in.

0:42:510:42:53

100ml.

0:42:530:42:54

It's not that often that I get to see somebody following one

0:42:540:42:57

of my recipes on film and I have to resist the temptation to

0:42:570:43:00

shout at them.

0:43:000:43:02

It's quite a lesson, actually.

0:43:020:43:05

I'm hoping we can create

0:43:050:43:07

a recipe for change in Prestwich that can be copied across the UK.

0:43:070:43:12

Delicious.

0:43:120:43:14

In the end, saving money by keeping edible food

0:43:140:43:17

out of the bin is common sense but I think it might be a bit

0:43:170:43:20

harder to get them to improve their recycling.

0:43:200:43:23

Until 15 years ago,

0:43:290:43:32

most of our rubbish went to landfill sites like this one.

0:43:320:43:35

But burying hundreds of million of tonnes of rubbish in holes

0:43:370:43:40

in the ground isn't a great idea.

0:43:400:43:42

So the Government slapped a hefty tax on landfill and, today, more

0:43:440:43:48

and more of our rubbish is being incinerated to make electricity.

0:43:480:43:52

But when it comes to reusable materials, like plastic,

0:43:530:43:56

glass and metals, incineration is a waste of good resources.

0:43:560:44:00

Yet even after years of campaigning to persuade us

0:44:030:44:06

all to recycle, around a quarter of people in the UK remain unconvinced.

0:44:060:44:10

So over the last few weeks, I've been recruiting

0:44:150:44:17

the sceptics of Gardner Road to see if I can change their minds.

0:44:170:44:21

Do you wonder what actually happens to your recycling?

0:44:240:44:27

If you do do it, where does it go? Where does it end up?

0:44:270:44:30

-Yes.

-Yes.

-Yes, without a doubt.

0:44:300:44:31

If you saw what was actually happening, then you'd actually

0:44:310:44:34

believe what they're telling you because when they say,

0:44:340:44:37

"Oh, we're recycling this percentage of stuff,"

0:44:370:44:39

then you think, "Oh, are we really?" Because we don't know, do we?

0:44:390:44:42

We're just being told figures by a council that not an awful

0:44:420:44:45

lot of people trust, in general, anyway.

0:44:450:44:47

Do you think it would make you feel better about recycling

0:44:470:44:51

if you knew what did happen to it?

0:44:510:44:52

-Yeah.

-Yeah, you'd have knowledge of it.

0:44:520:44:54

Yeah, you'd know you were doing the right thing, maybe,

0:44:540:44:57

or whether you were doing the wrong thing.

0:44:570:44:59

-I don't know what goes on with it, I've never been explained.

-Yeah.

0:44:590:45:02

I'm hoping these recycling deniers can be converted with a tour of

0:45:040:45:08

the place they don't think exists - a materials-recovery facility.

0:45:080:45:13

Based on the conversations I've had with these guys so far,

0:45:150:45:18

I think it's clear who the toughest nut to crack is going to be.

0:45:180:45:22

It's Kelly from the caff.

0:45:220:45:24

-So you're not convinced that it's even being recycled?

-No.

0:45:240:45:27

-It all ends up in the same place?

-Yeah.

0:45:270:45:29

-They're lying to you?

-Yeah. Like always.

0:45:290:45:32

-Ever been anywhere like this before?

-No.

-No?

0:45:330:45:36

Each council in the UK has its own rules about what can be recycled.

0:45:380:45:41

One in seven don't want any glass. Others won't take card.

0:45:430:45:47

Here they want your plastic bottles but not your plastic bags.

0:45:470:45:50

But, wherever you live, the contents of your recycling bin

0:45:510:45:55

will end up in a facility like this.

0:45:550:45:57

And the first job is to remove by hand all the items

0:45:570:46:01

that can't be recycled.

0:46:010:46:02

So the stuff that's coming into this bit of the plant

0:46:040:46:07

looks like a raggedy old mess

0:46:070:46:08

but it is the contents of those recycling bins, isn't it?

0:46:080:46:11

It is. Yes. Things that are going to get stuck

0:46:110:46:13

and things that are going to mess up the quality of the recycling.

0:46:130:46:16

Frying pan.

0:46:160:46:18

Bits of a shower just came through there.

0:46:180:46:20

But it is predominantly tins, plastic bottles

0:46:200:46:23

-and glass bottles that's coming in.

-It is.

0:46:230:46:25

Shall we go through, Denise?

0:46:290:46:31

So there's not quite so much to see here

0:46:340:46:37

because it's encased in the machinery

0:46:370:46:39

but there's a really powerful magnet that's lifting anything that's steel.

0:46:390:46:43

That's all disappearing at this stage and heading off to a different

0:46:430:46:46

part of the plant and then the steel from this point on is gone.

0:46:460:46:49

Next, the rubbish bounces through a machine that smashes

0:46:530:46:56

the glass to smithereens.

0:46:560:46:59

The little fragments drop through the gaps and onto another

0:46:590:47:01

conveyor belt. All that should be left now is aluminium and plastic.

0:47:010:47:06

Right, here is another magnet and that repels the aluminium

0:47:090:47:14

and it's going to be heading into that cabin there.

0:47:140:47:17

There's a guy in there who's doing the final bit of sorting,

0:47:170:47:20

anything that's got through to there that isn't aluminium,

0:47:200:47:22

and then it'll all gets squished up into these lovely bales of cans.

0:47:220:47:26

I really want you all to have a good look in here

0:47:270:47:30

because it's a bit of quite cool technology.

0:47:300:47:33

The plastic bottles that are left are mainly divided

0:47:330:47:36

into two categories. They are either clear or they're opaque

0:47:360:47:39

and there's a laser in there that can tell the difference.

0:47:390:47:42

When the laser spots an opaque bottle, that squirty noise,

0:47:430:47:48

that is a jet of air blasting the opaque bottles into a separate

0:47:480:47:52

track from the clear bottles.

0:47:520:47:54

You can see that happening if you look down here.

0:47:540:47:57

Once the materials are sorted, they're sellable commodities again.

0:47:590:48:04

So if my gang, and others like them, really did

0:48:040:48:07

mend their recycling ways, how much difference would it make?

0:48:070:48:11

Well, if the whole of Greater Manchester could be persuaded

0:48:110:48:15

to put stuff in the right bins, it would save the local

0:48:150:48:18

councils £25 million a year.

0:48:180:48:20

And if you multiply

0:48:220:48:23

that across the country, we could pay for an extra 25,000 nurses.

0:48:230:48:27

So do you think spending time here today has changed the way you

0:48:290:48:33

-think about recycling?

-Yeah, it has a bit, yeah, yeah.

0:48:330:48:35

It's still not the finished product, is it?

0:48:350:48:37

It's just showing that it's being sorted.

0:48:370:48:40

Ah, so you think now that they've done this with it,

0:48:400:48:43

maybe they just chuck it in a hole in the ground?

0:48:430:48:45

A neater hole, yeah.

0:48:450:48:48

Are you still a bit unconvinced about

0:48:480:48:50

-whether this can become anything worthwhile?

-Yeah, yeah.

0:48:500:48:53

-It still just looks like a pile of rubbish.

-It is a pile of rubbish.

0:48:530:48:56

-And you still think that basically that should now be thrown away?

-Yeah.

0:48:560:48:59

Would you like to see something made out of this stuff

0:48:590:49:01

-that doesn't look or smell like rubbish?

-Yeah, the outcome of it.

0:49:010:49:05

All right, come with me. Come and have a look. One last thing.

0:49:050:49:10

Everything we make from recycled stuff saves us

0:49:100:49:13

from mining more raw materials from the planet's dwindling stocks.

0:49:130:49:17

And, as the technology improves, our recycling can be combined

0:49:170:49:21

with other materials in unexpected ways.

0:49:210:49:23

And this is the end product of recycling?

0:49:250:49:28

-That is made from plastic bottles.

-Really?

-I can't believe that.

0:49:280:49:32

I can't believe it, actually, I really can't.

0:49:320:49:35

Plastic bottles. Plastic bottles. Feel that.

0:49:350:49:38

I'm impressed. They're very, very good quality as well.

0:49:380:49:41

Recycled steel. Soup cans.

0:49:410:49:44

You know, tins of beans.

0:49:440:49:46

Never would've thought that.

0:49:460:49:48

This last bit has just made me impressed cos they do clothes.

0:49:480:49:52

OK. As long as you go on recycling those bottles you can keep the coat.

0:49:520:49:55

Oh, thank you.

0:49:550:49:56

My band of rubbish recyclers have all promised to

0:49:580:50:01

change their ways and I'm hoping they will spread the word

0:50:010:50:04

through the rest of Prestwich. And, while the rubbish revolution

0:50:040:50:07

on Gardner Road seems to be taking off, I want to get back on

0:50:070:50:11

the trail of the supermarkets and their wasteful cosmetic standards.

0:50:110:50:15

-It's not a pretty sight for my eyes, anyway.

-No, no.

0:50:170:50:21

We have to tell the supermarkets that to cause waste on this

0:50:240:50:27

scale is criminal.

0:50:270:50:30

I e-mailed Morrisons to request

0:50:300:50:32

an interview and, initially, they were really enthusiastic:

0:50:320:50:36

"Hi, Hugh and team,

0:50:360:50:37

"we're looking into ways that we might be able to help

0:50:370:50:40

"Tattersett Farm and perhaps involve Hugh in any possible NPD solution."

0:50:400:50:46

Pretty sure that's New Product Development.

0:50:460:50:49

That sounds to me like Morrisons might be offering me

0:50:490:50:52

my very own parsnip ready-meal range.

0:50:520:50:55

Very exciting.

0:50:550:50:56

But over the next couple of months, I couldn't pin them down and then

0:50:570:51:02

they told me the Hammonds no longer wanted us to film on the farm.

0:51:020:51:06

OK, this just in from Morrisons.

0:51:060:51:09

"The farmer has told us that he's unable to take

0:51:090:51:11

"part in the filming because he's too busy."

0:51:110:51:13

I was getting confused because Olly told me

0:51:150:51:18

it was Morrisons who were dodging the interview.

0:51:180:51:21

We heard from Morrisons that you didn't want to film any more

0:51:210:51:25

and I just wondered, what's changed?

0:51:250:51:27

But when you say pressure from Morrisons, what sort of pressure?

0:51:320:51:36

They've said they don't want you to do the interview on telly?

0:51:380:51:41

HE SIGHS

0:51:440:51:47

Morrisons strenuously deny that they put any pressure

0:51:510:51:55

on the Hammonds but, eventually, Olly did pull out of the filming,

0:51:550:51:59

saying he could only talk after the last parsnip crop had been paid for.

0:51:590:52:04

And, soon after, I got this message from Morrisons.

0:52:040:52:08

"We've carefully considered your offer of the opportunity to

0:52:080:52:11

"talk about parsnips and have decided that it's not one for us.

0:52:110:52:16

"I'll explain why. Several years ago, we did introduce wonky parsnips

0:52:160:52:21

"into our stores but they simply didn't sell.

0:52:210:52:24

"Customers didn't want them."

0:52:240:52:26

It's so annoying and you know it seems to me to be silly

0:52:260:52:31

because engagement is the key here.

0:52:310:52:34

No-one expects the supermarkets to instantly have all the solutions

0:52:340:52:38

to this very, very difficult problem but running away from the problem,

0:52:380:52:42

for me, that's not acceptable.

0:52:420:52:43

So I'm not taking no for an answer.

0:52:430:52:45

All the supermarkets claim

0:52:500:52:51

that their customers won't buy veg with minor blemishes

0:52:510:52:55

but I want to prove that their cosmetic standards

0:52:550:52:58

are way too strict.

0:52:580:52:59

And where better to do it than in front of a busy Morrisons store?

0:53:020:53:06

And how better to brand my parsnips

0:53:060:53:08

than with this very agreeable colour scheme?

0:53:080:53:11

Roll up, roll up, Morrisons customers!

0:53:110:53:15

Come on, everyone.

0:53:150:53:16

They're all rejects.

0:53:160:53:18

-Really?

-It's silly. They're perfectly fine.

0:53:180:53:21

Would it surprise you if I told you these are rejects?

0:53:210:53:24

-Wow.

-It's wrong.

-It's wrong?

-It's very wrong. It's ridiculous.

0:53:240:53:28

Absolutely ridiculous.

0:53:280:53:29

I would absolutely cook with that parsnip.

0:53:290:53:31

-What is wrong with that one?

-Just a little bit bruising on the top.

0:53:310:53:34

-They shouldn't be wasted.

-They shouldn't be wasted.

0:53:340:53:36

You hear that, Morrisons? These are your customers. They shouldn't be wasted.

0:53:360:53:40

-No. definitely not.

-Are you a Morrisons customer?

-I am, yeah.

0:53:400:53:42

And what do you think?

0:53:420:53:44

-Don't throw them away.

-Don't throw them away, we'll buy them.

0:53:440:53:47

-Are you sure you don't have a problem with that?

-No.

0:53:470:53:49

I don't even know the difference.

0:53:490:53:50

Everybody I met said they would

0:53:500:53:53

buy a cosmetically imperfect parsnip but the other reason I'm here

0:53:530:53:56

is to hassle Morrisons into giving me that interview.

0:53:560:54:00

Hello, everybody!

0:54:000:54:03

Just to say that all Morrisons customers are offered a free

0:54:030:54:07

bag of parsnips.

0:54:070:54:09

Don't go home empty handed.

0:54:090:54:11

Good morning, Morrisons customers!

0:54:110:54:15

Free bags of parsnips for Morrisons customers here this morning.

0:54:150:54:19

-How're you doing?

-I'm good, how are you?

0:54:190:54:20

-Really good.

-Are you from Morrisons?

-Yeah.

0:54:200:54:23

-Are you the manager of the store?

-I am, yeah.

-Terrific, OK.

0:54:230:54:25

-Well, it's really good to talk to you.

-Yeah.

0:54:250:54:28

You're the first person from Morrisons I've been able to talk to

0:54:280:54:31

and I've been trying for four months now.

0:54:310:54:34

-OK.

-We are here out of frustration

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because they haven't been able to give us someone to talk on camera.

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-Do you want me to go and... make a call?

-By all means.

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If you think you can get someone down, that would be great.

0:54:430:54:47

-I'll...

-Very friendly store manager from Morrisons, very helpful.

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Just going to call the press office

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and see if he can arrange an on-camera interview this morning.

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Who knows? Might happen.

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A couple of hours later, I got an e-mail from the press office

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suggesting an interview could be back on the cards. I hope so

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because, after today, I'm convinced that Britain's shoppers will

0:55:070:55:11

buy the produce that our supermarkets are rejecting.

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My goodness, you're eating a raw parsnip already.

0:55:150:55:18

That is a vote of confidence, is it not?

0:55:180:55:20

David Potts, the Morrisons boss,

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says that he listens to his customers.

0:55:240:55:27

All the supermarket bosses say they listen to their customers.

0:55:270:55:29

Well, today, I've been listening to Morrisons customers

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and the message is very clear.

0:55:330:55:34

Produce like this is perfectly good.

0:55:340:55:37

Throwing it away is madness.

0:55:370:55:39

I think that is a very clear message.

0:55:390:55:42

The public seem to be responding to my war on waste...

0:55:420:55:45

-ALL:

-Yay!

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..and that's massively encouraging.

0:55:470:55:49

Because what's good for waste is good for all of us.

0:55:490:55:53

-Hi, Joanne, how are you?

-Hi! Come in!

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We saved about £25 on that shopping bill.

0:55:550:55:58

Just by being a bit more careful and not throwing stuff away?

0:55:580:56:00

Yeah, and I actually think

0:56:000:56:02

we probably could have saved a little bit more.

0:56:020:56:05

But I'm learning.

0:56:050:56:06

And what brings you to these neck of the woods?

0:56:060:56:08

I'd like a quick word with you.

0:56:080:56:10

-May I borrow Kelly for a second, Carol?

-Course you can!

0:56:100:56:12

Who's that?

0:56:120:56:14

I can't believe you've filmed me secretly!

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HUGH LAUGHS

0:56:160:56:18

-Food in the food.

-Mm-hm.

0:56:180:56:20

-Paper in the paper.

-Wait for it...

0:56:200:56:24

-How do you know what's coming up?

-Because I've done it!

0:56:240:56:26

You're that confident you've been good?

0:56:260:56:28

Yeah, I'm impressed with myself.

0:56:280:56:30

-I'm incredibly impressed.

-I'm really impressed with myself.

0:56:300:56:33

I'm happy that I'm doing it, and obviously it learnt me

0:56:330:56:35

a lot that day when I seen what it could be made into.

0:56:350:56:38

-I need a bigger food bin now!

-I think you do.

0:56:380:56:41

-Since all the food's actually going in it.

-Yeah.

0:56:410:56:44

Done it!

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HUGH LAUGHS

0:56:450:56:47

Next week - I tackle our growing mountain of discarded clothes.

0:56:480:56:53

How long do you think it takes Britain to throw away

0:56:530:56:55

-that many clothes?

-Two or three days?

0:56:550:56:57

-Two or three days?

-Yeah.

0:56:570:56:59

Six hours?

0:56:590:57:00

Six hours? You're getting close.

0:57:000:57:02

Morrisons finally open their doors to discuss the waste problem.

0:57:020:57:07

I've got a big wodge of cancelled orders.

0:57:070:57:12

What's happening here?

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But I'm sorry to say that it's too late for the Hammonds.

0:57:130:57:17

After 30-odd years, it's now coming to an end today.

0:57:180:57:22

Who do we need more - the people who grow our food,

0:57:230:57:26

or the people who sell it to us?

0:57:260:57:28

I think it's the people who grow our food.

0:57:280:57:31

I'm spoiling for a fight now. I'm... I don't know. I'm just... I'm fuming.

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