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We're spending more money than ever before | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
to get what we want, when we want it, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
but we're paying a high price for our world of infinite choice. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
How long do you think it takes the whole of Britain | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
to throw away seven tonnes of clothes? | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
We chuck away over £400,000 worth of clothes every day. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:26 | |
That looks really nearly new. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
And at a time when millions of people in Britain are struggling to pay their food bills, | 0:00:28 | 0:00:33 | |
a third of all the food we produce is being wasted. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
Last week, I put the spotlight on the horrendous amount of food | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
we're chucking at home. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
-That's got another two weeks to go. -But it's been opened. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
We came out with a bag full of just rubbish. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
-Do you know why I'm throwing your food away? -Why? -No. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
Cos that's what people do, they throw their food away. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
Now it's time to confront our supermarkets | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
over their hidden food waste, | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
both in their stores... | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
Oh, my God! It's absolutely rammed. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
..and on our farms. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:05 | |
After 30-odd years, it's now coming to an end today. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
Who do we need more? | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
The people who grow our food or the people who sell it to us? | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
I've got a big wodge of cancelled orders. What's happening here? | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
They can sell their produce anywhere they like. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
If our buying practices are so bad, why are they still selling to us? | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
If you tell me where you shop... | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
Together, we can change the way we all deal with this problem | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
for the better and for ever, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
so please join my war on waste. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
We buy over 40 million tonnes of food every year | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
and the vast majority of that comes through just seven supermarkets. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:51 | |
I've been trying to find out just how much | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
of that huge mountain of food | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
our biggest retailers are throwing away. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
But if you look at their websites, | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
you'd think they hardly have a waste problem at all. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
I'm on Sainsbury's website here. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
Now, apparently, Sainsbury's want to be a zero waste company. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
Tesco want to be world leaders in eradicating food waste. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:13 | |
And one thing almost all the supermarkets are saying is, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
they do everything they can to avoid wasting any food | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
that's still fit for human consumption. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
Now I want to find out - is that really true? | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
Like most of us, Sam and Catie get their food from a supermarket, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
the only difference is they wait until the tills are shut | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
and everyone's gone home. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
-Is that a Tesco up there? -That is. -Is this the one we're after? | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
Yeah, we're going to go and have a look. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
And the food they are after is not on the shelves, | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
but in the bins round the back. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
The only snag is, it's not entirely legal. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
I suddenly feel a little bit nervous. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
-It's definitely closed, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
Should be, it's ten past midnight. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
They've been skip diving from the backs of supermarkets | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
for over seven years | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
and they tell me that Britain's biggest retailers | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
are secretly chucking away tonnes of perfectly good food. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
Oh, my God! Oh, hello! | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
It's absolutely rammed. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
That's not what I was expecting at all. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
OK, that's 1st of July milk. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
This is natural mineral water. 13th May 2017. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
-Pork scratching. -Energy tablets. One apple. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
-There's beer. There you go. -Mints. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
According to Sam and Catie, you can find hauls like this | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
round the back of supermarkets all over Britain. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
They reckon they've fed at least 25,000 people | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
in their Bristol cafe, Skipchen, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
all with binned produce like this, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
which supermarkets claim isn't fit for human consumption. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:48 | |
Is this...? Ah, Mr Ambassador, you are spoiling us. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
There is a gold mine of Ferrero Rocher. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
It just keeps coming. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
Has anyone ever pursued you for breaking the law? | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
For taking food away from their premises? | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
I would love them to and they haven't. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
I sat in the back of a police car for 40 minutes whilst they radioed through | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
and I said to the police, "Please try and get them to press charges," | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
and even the police turned round and said to me, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
"They're never going to do it, are they?" | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
And I was like, "No, they're not. It would be awful PR for them." | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
Having cleaned out Tesco's finest, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
we're heading down the road to see what's on offer at Waitrose. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
What have we got here? | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
-Oh, my goodness! -Here we go. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
This is today's date. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
-It is. It's all today. -I mean... -Lovely salads. -Pea shoots. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:33 | |
You know what, you could just put the whole of this bin | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
in the back of your van because it's all good stuff. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
Oh, look! Heston from Waitrose. Chicken tikka curry skewers. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
Sorry, Heston, they didn't want that today. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
Whoa! We've hit the fruit mother load. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
-Look at this. -Look at that. That's beautiful. Look at those. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
Oh, my goodness! Look at them, and those are not even overripe. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
These bins are just full of bananas. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
You do get a better class of waste at Waitrose, do you not? | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
That looks like a pretty good haul to me. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
I mean, lots of things you can do with this. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
How does it stand up to what you would usually hope to get? | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
-Um, I would say that it's below average. -Below average? Really? | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
-Yep. -It's quite shocking. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
This food shouldn't actually be here in the first place. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
They don't want people to find out about their dirty little secret. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
This branch of Waitrose has binned hundreds of pounds worth | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
of perfectly good food tonight... | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
..but that's not something they'll be admitting to their customers. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
Here's what it says on the Waitrose website - | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
"Surplus food that is fit for consumption | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
"is donated to local charities." | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
And that's the front-facing message that Waitrose are putting out | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
to all their customers about their food waste policy, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
and I think it's flawed. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
In fact, I think that it's just basically not true. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
Either they are deliberately misleading its customers | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
or Waitrose don't know what's happening in their stores. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
And now I've got the perfect opportunity to tell them | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
what we found, because they've agreed to give me an interview. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
Armed with the footage from our skip diving mission, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
I'm meeting Quentin Clark - their head of sustainability. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
-Hi, Quentin. -Hi, Hugh. How are you? -Very good to see you. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
As you know, I'm looking at the problem of waste, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
particularly food waste | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
and particularly how the supermarkets are coping with it | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
and contributing to it. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
You're a massive store, loads of fresh produce. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
Inevitably, you're not going to sell all of it. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
What happens to the stuff that's surplus, that's heading for that use-by date? | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
If it's left on the shelf, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
first thing we'll do is, we'll reduce it to customers, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
then we'll reduce it and sell it to staff. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
The next stage is, we donate that to organisations | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
that are local around our store. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
This is Waitrose in Old Sodbury. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
What have we got here? Oh, my goodness! | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
-Lovely salad. -Pea shoots. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
These bins are just full of bananas. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
You do get a better class of waste at Waitrose, do you not? | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
It's well stated on your website that food that is fit | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
for human consumption, we'll find a distribution, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
we'll get it to a charity. That's your policy. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
Are those things sort of falling through the net? | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
Well, clearly they are. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:16 | |
Um, I mean, but the principle behind all this is, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
and I stand by all of that, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
that the commitment is that we don't want any food that is | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
fit for human consumption to actually be disposed of, OK? | 0:07:24 | 0:07:29 | |
If I go to your website right now, | 0:07:29 | 0:07:30 | |
it will still basically tell me that food that's fit for | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
human consumption goes to charities | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
and that you've kind of dealt with that problem. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
Well, OK. I think it's a fair point, it's a fair call. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
That's not intended to deliberately deceive or anything like that, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
but it needs to be refreshed | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
because we don't want food which should be eaten not to be eaten. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:51 | |
Well, let's end on that note because who does? | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
It's good to hear Waitrose say they could do better, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
but if we're going to demand that our supermarkets stop wasting food, | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
we better take a look at our own habits too | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
because we chuck away a staggering four million tonnes | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
of edible food every year. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
In a nine-week experiment, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
I've challenged the residents of Gardner Road, Prestwich, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
to transform the way they deal with their waste. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
Now, I want to make sure that you're not throwing away good food. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
Oh, there's almost a whole baguette. Is that a whole baguette? | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
With just three weeks to go, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:26 | |
the Waste Not Prestwich Facebook page is hotting up, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
as residents post their food-saving tips and recipes. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
We're just eating these rather stale crackers, here. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
You put them in the microwave for ten seconds. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
-Oh, yeah. -Sounds all right. No, seriously. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
Doesn't matter what the date says on an egg, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
it might not have gone off, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
so the way you test is, you get some water... | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
and, if it drops to the bottom, it's not gone off. Good egg! | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
And I've joined in the fun myself. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
There's a moment when your strawberries just start to turn. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
You can actually make them last a good while longer. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
A little shake of sugar, a squeeze of lemon, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
and if I pop them in the fridge, they're good for another couple of days. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
But this experiment isn't just about food waste. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
I've asked the residents here to stop chucking recyclable glass, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
plastic and cans in the wrong bin. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
And that bit of our rubbish revolution isn't going quite so well. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
-Hey, Michelle. I'm Hugh. -Hi. Nice to meet you. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
25-year-old painter and decorator Michelle | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
has the most notorious bins in the neighbourhood. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
Apparently they are such a mess that the council has refused to go near them. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
Right. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:47 | |
-Looks like there's a bit of food in there, Michelle. -I know. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
-That's not meant to go in the recycling. -I know. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
The Spam tin is allowed in, but the Spam isn't. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
That's my little brother, not me. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
That's good, that's good. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
I mean, it's quite good recycling, apart from the food. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
This isn't all your waste. Where's your...? | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
-Have you got more, then? -In the back. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:13 | |
-Do you want to come and look? -Ah. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
Hang on. So what's in there, then? | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
You don't want to open it, it's not recycled. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
Oh! Oh, my God! | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
Doesn't smell good, Michelle. How long has that been there? | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
-A couple of months. -So they're refusing to take it, basically? -Yeah. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:30 | |
-So how will you get rid of that? -I'll just leave it. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
Well, it's not just going to go away, Michelle, is it? | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
Might do, one day. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
I think this could be a little unpleasant, but I'm determined to | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
help Michelle get back on track with her recycling. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
That's one of the most revolting things I've seen for a long time, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
-but your shiny fork... -I don't want it. -Is it yours? | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
Plastic bottles in there, general rubbish in there. | 0:10:55 | 0:11:00 | |
Oh, I don't know why you're doing it. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
A lot of this is going in the recycling, which is quite satisfying. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
It's half tins of... Bleurgh! | 0:11:05 | 0:11:06 | |
I think it's very, very ancient cat litter. Really strong ammonia smell. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:15 | |
Let me look. Oh! | 0:11:15 | 0:11:16 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
I'm going to be sick. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
Of course, it's easy to be rubbish at recycling. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
Walk away. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:32 | |
But once you get started, it's surely not that hard to put different stuff | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
in different bins. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:37 | |
Oh, it smells good now. Look at that. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
What next, Michelle? Where do we go from here? | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
I don't even know. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
-Come on. -We start our recycle - that's where we go. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
-Yeah? -Yeah, definitely. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
-I'll give it a good go. -Great. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
I'll pop back in a few weeks' time | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
and I'll be so glad if we don't have to do that again. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
'We went somewhere where people | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
'should never have to go with their rubbish. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
'Literally one of the worst smells I've ever smelt.' | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
Michelle doesn't want to go there again. I think now, you know, | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
compared to that, recycling, it's a piece of cake, isn't it? | 0:12:20 | 0:12:25 | |
When I first had a snoop in the bins round here, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
the thing that shocked me the most | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
was the piles and piles of perfectly decent clothes. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
And it's a nationwide problem. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
We're binning over £150 million worth of clothes every year | 0:12:37 | 0:12:43 | |
and they end up either being incinerated or buried in landfill. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:48 | |
I should really give them to charity and stuff like that, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
but sometimes I don't really find the time, so I'd say my clothes | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
are what I tend to waste a lot. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
I would definitely bin underwear, socks, pyjamas and stuff. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
-I threw out about three pairs of jeans the other day. -Some holey jeans. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
I generally only throw away things | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
that are not very good quality or really old. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
Clothes are cheaper than they've ever been | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
and on average we own four times more garments than we did 30 years ago. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
About every two weeks, I go for a big shop. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
There's no need to buy as much as we buy, but...I like it. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
I don't, like, regret spending money. I just think, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
"Oh..." Like, I'm happy now that I've bought myself something. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
So, from the moment you walked into...Zara, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
you actually decided you were going to buy something? | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
She picked a handful of stuff up. She went for it, didn't you? | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
-It was on sale. -What about you? | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
Would you have found it hard not to buy something? | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
Yeah, cos, like, when you get the money and you don't spend it, like, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
you go home pretty upset, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
thinking, "I've not done...I've not done my job." | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
Clearly, a lot of people go clothes shopping these days | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
not because they need new clothes, but because it makes them feel good. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:57 | |
As you might have guessed, I'm a little out of touch | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
with the culture of fast fashion. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
With those on, you must be taller than I am. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
Yeah, I'm quite tall with them on. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
-Becky, do you think Amelia buys too many clothes? -Yeah, I do. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:13 | |
It tends to be, she buys things and then they don't... | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
She doesn't wear them again. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:16 | |
I recently bought this. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
So what's the future for that particular garment? | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
I might be able to wear this once at summer. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
-Once. -Yeah. -OK. -But stripes might go out. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
They're in now, but next week or two weeks' time... | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
might be all over for stripes? | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
Yeah. Floral. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:31 | |
'16-year-old Amelia goes clothes shopping with her | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
'mates at least once a week, and I sense that's not remotely unusual.' | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
How long can a favourite thing stay favourite before it has to | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
just be recognised as no longer a thing? | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
-Two weeks. -So, that means, if you've had it for two weeks | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
-and you've worn it a few times, it's old? -Yeah. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
Guess how long this has been one of my favourite pairs of trousers? | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
-How long? -Oh, about ten years. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
Ten years?! | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
Who's your fashion idol? Whose fashion style do you most admire? | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
Zoella. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
Hello, everyone! It has been a long time since | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
I have done a Primark haul... | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
'I must admit that, until now, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
'I hadn't heard of Zoella and other the fashion vloggers | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
-'like Tanya Burr...' -Oh, should I, shouldn't I? | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
'..and Patricia Bright.' | 0:15:17 | 0:15:18 | |
I don't know, what colour would you call this? | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
It's like a burnt orange, burnt orange. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
'..but they are some of the biggest stars in the online world.' | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
She's got eight million subscribers. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
-Eight million?! -Eight million. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
-And what do you think is good about her? -You can relate to her. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
She doesn't buy all expensive clothes and everything - | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
she buys clothes from high-street shops like Primark. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
This is £5. Bargainous. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
So, basically, she's just going through her shopping and talking about it? | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
Yeah. A haul is where YouTubers just show you what they've bought. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
So, a haul means she's been shopping | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
and she's showing you what she's bought. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
# I wish that I could be like the cool kids. # | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
There's something very clever about the tone of these vlogs. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
It's like you are talking to your best friend. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
"I've been shopping, look what I bought! | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
"And I've got this! | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
"Ooh, I think this might look good with my jeans." | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
Almost like they're offering to the viewer to try on, almost like saying, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
"You'd look great in that!" | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
# I wish that I could be like the cool kids... # | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
Vloggers like Zoella are part of a turbo-charged fashion industry | 0:16:15 | 0:16:20 | |
that seems hellbent on persuading us to buy more than we need. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
And because the clothes are so cheap, we don't think twice about throwing | 0:16:23 | 0:16:28 | |
them away to make room for more. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
I suspect that tackling the nation's addiction to fast fashion | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
is probably beyond me, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
but I do want to make us | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
think harder about what we do with the clothes we no longer want. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:43 | |
There's actually seven tonnes of clothes here, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
10,000 separate garments, and I've been given permission to | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
bring them here to one of the busiest shopping centres | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
in the whole of the UK. Why? Well, because I think it's a good | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
idea if people see what seven tonnes of discarded clothes looks like. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
I'm standing on a pile of seven tonnes of clothes, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:09 | |
10,000 separate garments under my feet. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
But here's a question I have for you. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
How long do you think it takes the whole of Britain to throw away | 0:17:15 | 0:17:21 | |
this many clothes? | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
Seven tonnes, 10,000 garments. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
How long do you think it takes Britain | 0:17:30 | 0:17:31 | |
to throw away that many clothes? | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
-I'd say about two or three days. -Two or three days? -Yeah. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
I'd say a week. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:37 | |
You think that's a week's worth of what Britain throws away? | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
-Possibly half a day. -Half a day? | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
-A couple of hours. -Within a few... A couple of hours? -Yes. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
-How long do you think? -Three hours. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
-You think a matter of hours. -A few days. -A few days. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
-Six hours. -Six hours. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
You're getting close. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:52 | |
The truth is, it takes Britain just ten minutes - | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
ten minutes - to throw away seven tonnes of clothes. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
Just ten minutes. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:00 | |
-You're lying. -No, no, ten minutes. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
-Ten minutes, I'm afraid. -Ten minutes is insane. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
When you can see it visually, it's more...more of a shock, I think. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
-I'm absolutely horrified. -Are you? -Yeah. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
Now, there is another way. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
As you'll see with all these clothes today, they don't need to be binned, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
they don't need to be thrown away for ever. They're perfectly wearable, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
perfectly usable, somebody somewhere surely would like them. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
So come and have a look and see what you think. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
I'm going to take down the barriers now. Come on in. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
What do you think of this big pile? | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
-Shocking. -It's pretty shocking, yeah. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:36 | |
Charity shops will take anything and if they don't think they can sell it, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
they'll move it on to someone who can use it in a different way. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
'So there's no excuse to bin any of our old clothes. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
Even if you think they've have had their day, they can still end up | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
as a recycled mop head or stuffing for a car seat. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
When we throw this stuff away, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
we throw away all the work that's gone into them and all the resources, | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
the water, the oil, the energy, the machines, the human labour. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
That all goes in the bin, too. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
Chucking away clothes at our current rate is clearly | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
an environmental disaster, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
but throwing away a third of all the food we produce... | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
well, that's simply immoral. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
Yet around 20% of the crops grown in Britain never get eaten | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
because our supermarkets don't think we'll buy their produce | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
unless it looks absolutely perfect. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
Well, there is a very happy-looking carrot. I must be in the right place. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
Poskitt's is one of the UK's most successful farms. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
With an annual turnover of over £30 million, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
they supply around 10% of all the carrots eaten in Britain. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
-So this is a big artic load just come in? -Yeah. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
-How many of those would arrive in a day? -About ten. Ten or 12. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
-Ten or 12 a day? -Yes. -Blimey! -Christmas, week 20. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:06 | |
That is a staggering amount of carrots! | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
-So ten of these is how many tonnes of carrots? -About 290 tonnes today. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:16 | |
I've never seen so many carrots in my life! | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
Can I see where they're ending up? | 0:20:18 | 0:20:19 | |
Yeah, we're going to the pack house now. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
All our supermarkets apply cosmetic standards to their produce - | 0:20:23 | 0:20:28 | |
guidelines that define exactly what's acceptable. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
Guy Poskitt has invested a small fortune in machinery that slices, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
dices and grates the less-than-perfect carrots | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
into other product ranges, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
but he's still losing 3,000 tonnes of perfectly edible carrots | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
every year to cosmetic standards. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
This is all the waste that's coming out of the pack house today. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
That's just from today? The beginning of the day, this was... | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
-That's today's waste. -..there was nothing here? No! | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
Normally, in the winter time, we can sell this for animal feed, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
but now the sun's shining and all the cows are out in the fields, | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
we'll have to dump it. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
It's the relentlessness of that conveyor belt, just dropping | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
perfectly good carrots onto a pile, knowing that they're now rubbish. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:18 | |
-What's wrong with those? -Nothing. -We've grown that. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
We've worked hard to produce that | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
and now we're going to throw it away. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:25 | |
-How do you feel about that? -Immoral. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
Yeah. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:30 | |
It's insane, isn't it? | 0:21:32 | 0:21:33 | |
If farmers like Guy weren't forced to waste | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
so much of the good food they're producing, they could grow | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
a bit less with fewer resources and maybe even charge us less, too. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
And, of course, his slightly curvy carrot | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
tastes just as good as the straight ones. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
These are what you call minor defects. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
That's got some splitting in it. That's quite misshaped. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
Probably, you'd get away with that one, to be honest. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
That's some scab but that'd easily peel off, you know. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
-Couple of strokes with a peeler and it's gone. -That one's too long. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
Is that really a problem to somebody? | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
Why couldn't you just do that and put both halves in the bag? | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
Because it'd be classed as broken then, so they're defects. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
I know, but they're both fine, aren't they? | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
The reality is, people will naturally pick out the prettier | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
ones first and you'll be left with a tray full of those in the bottom. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
But do you think that supermarkets would never talk to each other | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
and say, "Look, there's a lot of food going to waste | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
"because we all have these very rigorous cosmetic standards, but if | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
"we all decided to relax them a bit, we could stop wasting a lot of food?" | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
Is that the kind of conversation you could imagine | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
-happening in the world of retailers? -No! | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
-You just can't see that happening? -Retailers work very... | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
-They're very, very competitive against each other. -And secretive? | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
Yeah. Quite rightly so. They're big, big, powerful businesses | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
and they want to attract the consumers through their door. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
Consumers will tell them that they don't really like that | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
and they only really like that, you know. It's fact. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
You must not blame the retailers. It's customer-driven, this. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
When you get to the last ten carrots in the tray, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
it'll be 100% of these defects. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
Well, maybe I'm peculiar, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
but I actually find it quite reassuring to have a slightly | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
curved carrot cos it just reminds me that this | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
is a natural product and it grows in the earth. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
Guy shares the supermarkets' view that shoppers are reluctant to | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
buy less-than-perfect carrots. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
But how can we buy them if they don't put them on the shelves? | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
And while Guy's huge farming operation, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
with its diverse products, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:32 | |
can clearly withstand the cost of cosmetic standards, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
being forced to throw their crops away is driving smaller | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
farmers to the brink of despair. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
I've been filming with the Hammond family in Norfolk, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
who've been supplying parsnips to Morrisons since the 1980s. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
I'm heading back to the Hammonds at Tattersett Farm | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
and today is a really tough day for them. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
After 30 years, they're lifting their last crop ever. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:04 | |
They've had enough. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:05 | |
They've had no help from Morrisons and they just don't think | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
they can make it work any more, and so they're getting out, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
which is just so sad. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
30 years in farming comes to an end today. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
Kevin and Debs and their two sons, Olly and SJ, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
are packing their last ever harvest. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
-Hello, Debs. -Hello, Hugh. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
-How are you doing? -Very well, thank you, very well. You? -I'm all right. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
-Hello. Nice to see you again. -Hi, Kev. All right, Olly? SJ? | 0:24:31 | 0:24:36 | |
How does it feel to be bagging up your last ever crop of parsnips? | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
-It's a difficult day. -Yeah. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
After 30-odd years supplying the supermarkets, and as this | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
third generation working in the job, it's now coming to an end today. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
Have you told Morrisons that you're no longer in the business | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
-of growing parsnips? -Yes, we have, yeah. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
We've sent emails to people I've dealt with at Morrisons for | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
over 20 years and we've never heard anything from them since that day. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
Did you feel you had any alternative | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
at all, other than closing the business? | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
No. No, I don't. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
It's all driven by supermarkets. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:15 | |
We was going to lose a lot of money if we continued growing, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
there's no question about that. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
Why would I want to leave my boys in debt, you know? | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
If something happened to me and Deb... | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
Debs, what's today like for you? | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
Tough. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:27 | |
I don't know what to say, Debs, but... | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
I don't know what to say, Hugh, really, but... | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
you know, other than we've shown | 0:25:35 | 0:25:36 | |
so much commitment over the years | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
and been loyal, hardworking, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
honest...and actually they don't give a damn. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
You know, it's a tough day. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
When I contacted Morrisons after my first visit, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
they seemed very upbeat about the possibility of a filmed | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
interview at the farm to talk about waste caused by | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
cosmetic standards, | 0:26:00 | 0:26:01 | |
but Kev was getting a very different message from them. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
Their head guys said to you that they would like to do something | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
but the conversation I had was, "Kevin, you need to bury it." | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
Bury what? | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
"Bury the TV interview, the camera work, the whole show, | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
"because we're not coming. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
-"We've said we were but we're not coming." -Yeah. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
-I need to be really clear about this because they've got big fat lawyers. -Oh, yes. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
So is that the phrase they actually used? | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
The actual phrase. "Can you bury this for us? We want it buried." | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
-Why do you think...? -Because they're not in touch any more. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
They're not in touch. They say on their website that they work | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
so closely with their suppliers, etc, etc, but they don't. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:40 | |
The buyer who buys from us didn't even know where we were on the map. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
Didn't even know where Norfolk was, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
didn't even know where East Anglia was. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
Morrisons deny they put pressure on the Hammonds and say they | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
offered to help but, according to Kevin, their interest came far too late. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
And they're not the only ones having trouble with supermarkets. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
Right now, nearly half of British farms are losing money. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:04 | |
Seems to me it needs a big change of attitude from the supermarkets. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
But the British public have to do their bit too, don't they? | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
They have two step up and say, "We get it. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
"We get there's a problem and we understand that this is | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
"perfectly good produce. And if it's got a little spot over here | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
"or a slight bruise over there, that's all right with us. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
"Bring it on, we'll eat it, we'll use it, it's good stuff'." | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
These parsnips cost as much to grow as one that's perfectly good. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
Why do we just throw it away? It's madness. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
Everybody's got to get back to basics. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
We're not going to continue doing this | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
and be part of the destruction of English farming. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
I'm sorry, Kev, and I hope we can start something with | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
the British public that will make a difference... | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
Yes, get behind us. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:51 | |
-..for you and for what you've done for the last 30 years. -Yeah. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
Thank you so much for letting us in. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
It's too late for Tattersett Farm, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
but maybe it's not too late to demand that all our supermarkets | 0:28:02 | 0:28:07 | |
treat their producers fairly, so they have a viable future. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:12 | |
It's all I've ever done. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
It's all I ever wanted to do when I left school. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
I haven't done nothing wrong. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
There's something about the culture of the supermarkets | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
and the way they do business with their suppliers | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
that seems to me fundamentally wrong. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
I mean, in the end, who do we need more, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
the people who grow our food or the people who sell it to us? | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
Who matters the most, actually? | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
I think it's the people who grow us our food and I think we should stick up for them, | 0:28:48 | 0:28:53 | |
and if that means going and standing up to the people who sell it | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
to us, and challenging the way they do it, well, I'm ready for that now. | 0:28:56 | 0:29:01 | |
I'm spoiling for a fight now. I'm... I don't know, I'm fuming. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
And it looks like I will get a chance to put my case to Morrisons | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
because they have, finally, agreed to meet. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
Not only that, they want to run a trial | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
selling cosmetically impaired produce in one of their stores. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
Their PR chief, Julian Bailey, explains how it's going to work. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:25 | |
The reason we've chosen courgettes is because they're in season now. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
What we really want to do is to actually test | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
whether, given the choice, customers will actually pick up | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
the ones that are, if you like, | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
the prettier courgettes or the ones that are more oddly shaped. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
What we probably suspect is customers will actually | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
reach out more naturally for the prettier-looking vegetable, | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
but we don't know that, and I think that we're prepared to | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
test it, and see whether, actually, customers really mind that much. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:55 | |
It looks like a modest sort of trial to me, but it's a start, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
and it means I will get a chance to meet with Julian | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
in a few weeks to discuss cosmetic guidelines | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
and put the case for struggling farmers. When I do, I want to | 0:30:05 | 0:30:10 | |
be armed with all the evidence I can muster to make the case for change. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:14 | |
So I've been talking to Tristram Stuart, who's been investigating | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
the hidden world of supermarket waste for over six years. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
Every farmer we speak to is | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
resentful of the waste that they experience. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
They grow the food throughout the year and then they see it | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
rot in their fields. But they can't do anything about it because, | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
if they complain against the supermarkets, | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
they risk losing their business. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
A supermarket can easily just say, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
"Right, fine, we'll go to another farmer." | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
What has to change now? | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
Cosmetic standards is one, and it's massive. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
The other is last-minute order cancellations. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
Farmers routinely tell us that, right at the last minute, | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
they get an email or a call saying, "We don't want it after all." | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
The entire cost of that waste lands on the farmer. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
Olly and Debs at Tattersett Farm, who are growing the parsnips, | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
have also had a problem with order cancellations. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
When they said that, I said, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:10 | |
"Well, I assume you at least get paid for that." No. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
The point is, for a supermarket to routinely cancel orders | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
at the last minute is a breach of the law. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
The problem is getting proof that the supermarket caused those | 0:31:19 | 0:31:24 | |
order cancellations, because most farmers are far too | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
scared of the supermarkets to speak out. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
One of the objectives of my organisation is to find that | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
smoking gun and getting a good whistle-blower to really blow | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
the lid on supermarket practices is exactly what we need. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
Although cancelling orders is not a criminal offence, | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
supermarkets can be fined millions under civil law | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
if they behave unfairly to their suppliers. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
But, so far, no supermarkets have been penalised. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
One of the problems seems to be that farmers just won't come forward. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
While they still have a contract with the supermarket, | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
they don't want to stand up | 0:32:04 | 0:32:05 | |
and challenge that supermarket about the way they're treating them. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:10 | |
Well, the Hammonds at Tattersett Farm, after 30 years of business | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
with Morrisons, are no longer in business. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
They've got nothing left to lose. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
If Kevin and Debs have evidence that Morrisons changed their orders | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
unfairly at short notice, that could be the catalyst that | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
transforms how supermarkets do business with their suppliers. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:31 | |
This would be like the original order. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
-6.25. -6.25pm. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:35 | |
-440 trays, yep. -That's a lot of parsnips. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
Yep, and then the following morning, at 7.40... | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
-You've already lifted the crop. -Yeah. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
-440 goes down to 300. -Yeah. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
-That's over 1,000 kilos. -Yes. They have to then be tipped out. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
-They go on that big pile I saw when I first came in. -I'm afraid so, yes. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
Every one of these is an example of a cancelled order. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
There's over 100 to our detriment. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
These amended orders represent not only tonnes of parsnips | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
wasted on the farm, | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
but thousands of pounds worth of lost income for the Hammonds. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
It's like a red rag to a bull. I mean, you know, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
I found myself getting worked up throughout the morning, | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
and I was glad we came away and you've come down here | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
because I don't think I could face going to the office any more. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
But I think the consumer needs to know what's happening to | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
family businesses supplying any of the supermarkets. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
Well, I think the public would like to know | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
and I think Morrisons have certainly got a case to answer. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
'It's just over a week till my showdown with Morrisons | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
'and I'm hoping the Hammonds' story will show all the supermarkets | 0:33:41 | 0:33:46 | |
'the human cost of wasting food on British farms.' | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
Dealing with the big corporations has been frustrating. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
But when I speak to people on Gardner Road in Prestwich | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
about food waste, they get it straight away. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
Even the kids understand we shouldn't be chucking good food in the bin. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:08 | |
Ah, the gang is here. What have you got? | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
More bananas, strawberries, brilliant. Grapes. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
We're going to take the fruit that your mums and dads | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
were about to throw away, and the yoghurts that are nearly out of date, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
and we're going to make them into yummy lollies. Who's up for that? | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
Well, it's very polite of you to put your hands up, | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
but you are allowed to talk in this kitchen. Who's up for that? | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
-ALL: -Me! | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
Fantastic. OK, let's get going. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
We are going to do a juicy lolly, so like a really fruity one, | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
and then we're going to make some creamy lollies. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
-Who wants to tuck into these grapes? -Yeah. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
And I can see there are quite a lot of brown ones. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
-Are you happy you've got all the good ones? -Yeah. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
Let's put these raspberries and blueberries in. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
They're a bit squishy. I want all the juice coming out. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
Tired old fruit that's a little bruised or wrinkled is | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
perfect for making lollies. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:58 | |
Urgh, it's horrible. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
It's going to be delicious, though. That is some lovely juice. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
Pour those yoghurts in. Good job, guys, good job. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
Into the freezer with the lollies. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
Who's sticking around for the clearing up? | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
-ALL: -Not me, bye! | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
Even the local sceptics | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
have been persuaded to bin their rubbish habits. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
Plastic bottles, food, tin cans, lots of paper, tea bags. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:31 | |
They're not lonely, they're all together. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
It's easy, one bag, in the bin, done. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
And Kelly's been my shining example. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
But just to be sure she's mended her ways, | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
I've installed a hidden camera at the cafe where she works. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
What brings you to these neck of the woods? | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
I'd like a quick word. May I borrow Kelly for a second, Carol? | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
-Of course you can. -Who's that? | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
-That's me. -You are at least working. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
-Dancing. -Sorry! | 0:35:54 | 0:35:59 | |
I'm sure you are. Can't believe you filmed me secretly. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
This is good though... Oh. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
-Paper, did you see it? -I did. -Watch, watch, watch. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
-Food in the food, paper in the paper. -Wait, wait for it. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:17 | |
-How do you know what's coming up? You're that confident. -I've done it. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
-You're that confident you've been good? -Yep. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
Drinks tin, emptying it out. Where's it going to go? | 0:36:25 | 0:36:30 | |
Oh! | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
-Nearly. -But I didn't. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
-I'm impressed with myself. -I'm incredibly impressed. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
I need a bigger food bin now. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
I think you do, since all the food is actually going in it. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
-Yeah, yeah. -But how hard has it been, really? | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
It's not. It's not that hard, to be fair. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
It doesn't even make a difference to your day at all. Done it. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:54 | |
I'm confident that the Gardner Road gang are well on the way to | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
transforming how they deal with their waste. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
And the supermarkets | 0:37:02 | 0:37:03 | |
seem to be claiming they've got their waste sorted too, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:07 | |
yet I've been finding perfectly good food in their bins | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
and seeing tonnes of their vegetables getting | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
wasted on our farms. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
So how can they be claiming one thing on their websites, | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
when clearly something else is happening in the real world? | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
Part of the answer is a process called anaerobic digestion, | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
happening at plants like this one outside Birmingham. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
It's one of over 140 similar sites now operating across the country. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:34 | |
The lorry that came in is going to dump into this pit here? | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
Yeah, the door will open, he will back up | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
and he will offload straight into the bin. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
And the waste that is already in here, | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
that was delivered earlier today? | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
-Yeah, it has been arriving since 7am. -Here comes the next lot. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
That looks like a lot of bread and buns. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
Yeah, this is one of our typical bakery loads. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
And so that's probably a week's worth of bakery waste? | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
-Probably about a day's worth. -Blimey. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
AD is a clever process that converts food into gasses that can | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
then be burnt to make electricity. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
That's a lot of bread. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
And because it's recovering energy, it's the right thing to do | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
with wasted food that really can't be eaten. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
This is a much bigger truck than the last one, Chris. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
Yeah, this is one of our bulk deliveries. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
And where has this come from? | 0:38:23 | 0:38:24 | |
This has come from a national retailer from a distribution centre. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
-Category three material - not for human consumption. -That's right. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
-So when you say a retailer, this is a supermarket. -Correct, yeah. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:34 | |
'I was only allowed to film here on condition that I didn't say | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
'which companies are using this facility. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
'And that seems a bit ironic, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
'when most supermarkets are actually boasting on their websites | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
'about using AD. So, what are they trying to hide here?' | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
Is all the food unfit for human consumption? | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
Not all the food is, no. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
So some of the food that's coming here might just be surplus stock? | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
-Or out of date. -Or out of date. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
'So at least some of the surplus food | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
'coming here is fit for human consumption | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
'and I challenge all the supermarkets to tell us why that's happening. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
'Surely it's madness to feed power stations with food | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
'that could still be used to feed people? | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
'Fortunately, there are organisations | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
'dedicated to intercepting in-date surplus stock | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
'that would otherwise end up in AD. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
'Lindsay Boswell is the CEO of a charity called FareShare.' | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
I'm looking at boxes of cereal, fizzy drinks, jars of jam, | 0:39:35 | 0:39:40 | |
all sorts of everyday items, but why have they ended up with you? | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
Why aren't they in the supermarket? | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
So it will be a mix of reasons. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
The biggest crime in the food industry | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
is to not be able to meet demand | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
and that starts when you and I walk into a supermarket. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
If the shelf is bare, we'll go to their rival. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
You're talking about the entire industry | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
really being one of deliberate over-supply | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
because under-supply is a crime that they're not prepared to consider. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
'As long as overproduction | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
'is the cornerstone of the supermarket business model, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
'there will always be perfectly good food going spare, | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
'sometimes for the most ridiculous reasons.' | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
This must have a very, very long shelf life. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
Why would they have any problem selling this? | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
Let's get one out. Let's have a look. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
Right, do you recognise that branding? | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
Something about it looks a bit odd. It doesn't look quite right. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
What we've been told is, this is the wrong shade of grey, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
so whether the machinery is getting to the end of its print run | 0:40:32 | 0:40:37 | |
or somebody's just made a miscalculation. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
That's really bizarre. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
This is one of our big chillers, Hugh, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
and there's some folk in here who are picking and sorting food. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:51 | |
Hi, there. How long have you been in here? | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
I've been here for about six months now, but... | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
-Not in the fridge?! -No, not in the fridge. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
We've only just come in to start on these orders. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
You're looking chilly already. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:01 | |
So this is a lot of the meat-type products. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
They've got a lot of hamburgers here, Hugh. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
Amazing-looking steaks from Tesco's here, lamb. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
-Yeah. They do look good. -Some joints of beef. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
Some good-quality meat here. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
'It's brilliant that so much food is being rescued by FareShare, | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
'but it's only a tiny fraction of our national surplus - | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
'the rest is being secretly destroyed.' | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
Do you have any idea how much of the waste problem you're solving | 0:41:23 | 0:41:29 | |
by distributing that food? | 0:41:29 | 0:41:30 | |
Yeah, and I'm really pleased you asked. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
This is the shocking bit. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
Although we're providing 150,000 meals a week, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
although we saved nearly 2,000 charities £20 million, | 0:41:37 | 0:41:42 | |
that is only 2% of the surplus, in date, fit for selling, | 0:41:42 | 0:41:48 | |
fit for retail, fit for consuming food in the UK. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:53 | |
And our real message to the food industry is, | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
we want to go from 2% to 25%. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
So, what do you need to happen to get to your 25%?? | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
We know the volunteers are there, cos people hate waste. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
We've got the infrastructure. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
What we really need is more food to be able to supply to more charities. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
'To see the difference that projects like this are making, | 0:42:08 | 0:42:12 | |
'I'm hitching a ride on one of their delivery vans.' | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
There's a lot of people that are struggling out there, you know, | 0:42:14 | 0:42:19 | |
and they rely on this food and they rely on the likes of FareShare. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:23 | |
We just need it to go bigger and bigger now. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
And what has to happen to make that? | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
The supermarkets have got to get more food into us. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:33 | |
Let us get it out to the community groups | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
and they love it when we deliver it to them. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
"Oh, what have we got today, son? | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
"What have we got for tomorrow's dinner? What's for pudding?" | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
They really love it. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
This is the daily delivery to The Unity, | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
an after-school club in Toxteth, Liverpool, | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
where, every evening, 40 or so local kids come by | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
to have a free tea cooked by Craig. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
A lot of the kids come in straight from school, | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
so they wouldn't have ate from 12 in the afternoon | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
and they might not be going home to a home cooked hot meal. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
So, for quite a few of them, | 0:43:04 | 0:43:05 | |
this is going to be the most nutritious meal they get? | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
This is going to be the biggest meal they have, | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 | |
so I'm making sure they have something wholesome. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
So you've got the stick blender out. Why is that? | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
We're going to try and fool the kids into thinking | 0:43:14 | 0:43:16 | |
there's not as much vegetables in as there actually is. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
Ah, so you blitz it and they can't see the veg, | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
and they think it's just a lovely sauce? | 0:43:20 | 0:43:22 | |
Hey, hungry people! | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
'If FareShare could get their hands | 0:43:29 | 0:43:31 | |
'on just a quarter of all the surplus food in this country, | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
'they could provide over a million free meals every day.' | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
Did you like the pasta, did you? | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
You're having a pasta and sauce sandwich. How's that? | 0:43:42 | 0:43:46 | |
It's like a party in my mouth. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
Like a party in your mouth? Brilliant! | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
-So, you all like Craig's food? -Yeah! | 0:43:51 | 0:43:54 | |
Very gratifying. It's all gone. | 0:43:55 | 0:44:00 | |
It's been really good to see a positive side | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
to the waste story today. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:04 | |
Seeing FareShare actually reducing the amount of food | 0:44:04 | 0:44:07 | |
that's going to waste by doing something really useful with it, | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
and then coming here at the end of the day and seeing a bunch of kids | 0:44:10 | 0:44:14 | |
getting a fantastic meal from food that would otherwise be thrown away, | 0:44:14 | 0:44:20 | |
well, it makes you realise that all the retailers | 0:44:20 | 0:44:22 | |
and all their suppliers really have to commit | 0:44:22 | 0:44:25 | |
to an incredibly important principle, | 0:44:25 | 0:44:27 | |
which is that food that CAN be eaten by human beings | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
SHOULD be eaten by human beings. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:32 | |
Here goes! "Dear Tesco, I am issuing a challenge | 0:44:35 | 0:44:39 | |
"to all our major food retailers in the way they deal with their waste. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:43 | |
"Dear M&S, will you commit to only sending food to AD | 0:44:43 | 0:44:49 | |
"that is not for human consumption? | 0:44:49 | 0:44:51 | |
"Dear Morrisons... | 0:44:51 | 0:44:52 | |
"Dear Waitrose... "Dear Sainsbury's... | 0:44:52 | 0:44:56 | |
"If a product has your name on it, | 0:44:56 | 0:44:57 | |
"then I am holding you responsible for its final destination." | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
'There's no reason why all our supermarkets | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
'couldn't rapidly double the amount they are giving away | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
'and I'm going to be on their case to see which of them delivers.' | 0:45:06 | 0:45:10 | |
Back in Prestwich, it's bin day and not just any bin day. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:17 | |
It's the one that tells me whether these lovely people | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
have really started a rubbish revolution | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
over the last nine weeks. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:25 | |
And there's one bin I'm dying to check up on personally. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:29 | |
So I'm just round the back of Michelle's house where, | 0:45:30 | 0:45:33 | |
a few weeks ago, I cleaned out the most disgusting bin | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
I've ever seen in my life. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:38 | |
'The deal was that, because I helped her clean that bin out, | 0:45:38 | 0:45:42 | |
'she was going to be really good | 0:45:42 | 0:45:44 | |
'about organising her rubbish and doing her recycling.' | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
Hi, Michelle, any chance of a quick word? | 0:45:46 | 0:45:50 | |
Do you want to come in or...? | 0:45:50 | 0:45:52 | |
I'd love to come in in a minute, | 0:45:52 | 0:45:54 | |
but what I'm really interested in is how you're getting on with your bins. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:58 | |
Have a look. | 0:45:58 | 0:45:59 | |
Oh, come on, that's too good to be true. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:02 | |
That's the cleanest recycling I've ever seen. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:04 | |
It's brilliant, ain't it? | 0:46:04 | 0:46:05 | |
-Have you found it hard? -No, not at all. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:08 | |
So how nice is it not to have that really filthy, stinky, | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
-cat litter, takeaway bin outside? -Brilliant. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
Best recycling I've seen for years. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:16 | |
-Well done. -Thank you. -Nice to see you. -You too. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
-Take care. -See you later. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:20 | |
-I promise not to snoop any more. -Yeah, please don't! | 0:46:20 | 0:46:25 | |
'Michelle has given me hope that the whole Gardner Road gang | 0:46:25 | 0:46:28 | |
'has indeed been waging a war on waste. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
'All will be revealed at the end-of-the-street party | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
'I'm throwing this afternoon. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:36 | |
'I'm catering for a couple of hundred | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
'and what they don't know is that all this food | 0:46:39 | 0:46:42 | |
'would otherwise have been wasted. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:44 | |
'Sam and Catie spent last night skip diving their way | 0:46:44 | 0:46:48 | |
'from Bristol to Prestwich...and this is their haul.' | 0:46:48 | 0:46:51 | |
Sorry about the queue, | 0:46:56 | 0:46:58 | |
but the food is delicious when you get there. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
'Amelia is here and stripes are still in - just - | 0:47:01 | 0:47:05 | |
'and Kelly has volunteered to run the cake stall.' | 0:47:05 | 0:47:10 | |
How is this chocolate and banana cake going down? | 0:47:10 | 0:47:12 | |
Really, really well. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
-Excellent. Have you tried a bit? -Yeah. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:16 | |
Do you know where the Ferrero Rochers and bananas came from? | 0:47:16 | 0:47:18 | |
The Ferrero Rochers came from a bin outside the Tesco. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
Are you being serious? | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
And the bananas came from a bin outside Waitrose. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
-Was it out of date? -The Ferrero Rochers | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
-were a couple of weeks out of date. -You've set me up again! | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
-It's only chocolate. -Well, it tastes extremely nice. It does. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:35 | |
-Hey, how's it going? -Really good. -You having fun? -Lots of fun. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:42 | |
'Our Wastenot lollies are going down well | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
'and the party is in full swing, | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
'complete with recycled bunting and decorations, | 0:47:47 | 0:47:51 | |
'and a very active clothes exchange stall, which is great to see! | 0:47:51 | 0:47:56 | |
'But what everyone, including me, wants to know is, | 0:47:57 | 0:48:00 | |
'have the residents of Gardner Road | 0:48:00 | 0:48:03 | |
'managed to radically improve their recycling? | 0:48:03 | 0:48:06 | |
'Denise and her team at the local refuse centre | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
'have just finished sorting through their bins.' | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
-Hello again, ladies and gentlemen! -Hello! | 0:48:12 | 0:48:16 | |
Two months ago, with the local waste collectors, | 0:48:16 | 0:48:20 | |
I collected many of your bins. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
Denise took a good look at your rubbish then and made an assessment | 0:48:22 | 0:48:27 | |
of just how much of the wrong stuff was ending up in your waste bin. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:31 | |
We made another collection | 0:48:31 | 0:48:33 | |
and she's come here with some information that even I do not know, | 0:48:33 | 0:48:37 | |
so I would like to ask Denise up on the stage to tell us | 0:48:37 | 0:48:41 | |
a little bit about what she has found out. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
I have to ask you, first of all, did you see a difference? | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
-Yes. -CHEERING | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
That sounds like good news. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:52 | |
There were hardly any clothes, very, very little paper. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:56 | |
It was amazing. I have to say I am incredibly impressed. | 0:48:56 | 0:48:59 | |
Well done, Prestwich. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:01 | |
And, in just two months, the Gardner Road neighbourhood | 0:49:03 | 0:49:06 | |
have nearly doubled the amount of glass, tins | 0:49:06 | 0:49:09 | |
and plastic they're recycling too. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:11 | |
Is that right? 40%-70%? | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
I'd like to think that it would carry on | 0:49:14 | 0:49:16 | |
-being at that level. -Yeah, it will do. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:18 | |
That puts them in the top 1% of all recyclers in Europe. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:23 | |
It's something which has kind of spurred us on, if you like, | 0:49:23 | 0:49:28 | |
to have less waste. | 0:49:28 | 0:49:29 | |
Are you going to stick with it? | 0:49:29 | 0:49:31 | |
-ALL: -Yes! | 0:49:31 | 0:49:33 | |
Thank you, Prestwich! | 0:49:33 | 0:49:35 | |
'And if they continue to reduce the amount of food they're binning, | 0:49:36 | 0:49:40 | |
'they'll be saving hundreds of pounds a year.' | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
Hopefully I will have saved a little bit with not wasting as much. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:48 | |
-But I still think you go shopping too much though. -Oh, shut up! | 0:49:48 | 0:49:52 | |
Here in Prestwich, we've mobilised a small community | 0:49:52 | 0:49:57 | |
to really care about waste | 0:49:57 | 0:49:58 | |
and it's not the easiest subject in the world to care about. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:02 | |
But now, to this group of people, | 0:50:02 | 0:50:04 | |
it really matters and, of course, it needs to matter to everybody, | 0:50:04 | 0:50:08 | |
right throughout the UK. So now it's time to ramp it up, | 0:50:08 | 0:50:11 | |
take it up to another level. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:13 | |
'So I'm launching the Wastenot website nationwide. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:17 | |
'It's full of money-saving and waste-saving tips and recipes. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:21 | |
'I'm hoping our war on waste will spread all over Britain | 0:50:21 | 0:50:25 | |
'because, if we all make small changes, big things will happen. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:30 | |
'But if we're really going to reduce food waste in the UK, | 0:50:36 | 0:50:39 | |
'our supermarkets have got to get on board. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:42 | |
'And I'm finally getting my chance | 0:50:42 | 0:50:45 | |
'to talk to one of the biggest - Morrisons. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:48 | |
'Surely they'll grab this opportunity to boldly lead the way to change | 0:50:50 | 0:50:55 | |
'by relaxing their cosmetic guidelines? | 0:50:55 | 0:50:58 | |
'And, of course, I'll be challenging them | 0:50:58 | 0:51:00 | |
'on all those amended orders they kept pushing on the Hammonds.' | 0:51:00 | 0:51:05 | |
It's been a long time coming, this interview, | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
more than six months, and so I'm quite fired up, | 0:51:07 | 0:51:11 | |
but, at the same time, I'm a bit conflicted, | 0:51:11 | 0:51:13 | |
because although I'm really angry about the Hammonds | 0:51:13 | 0:51:17 | |
and what has happened to their farm, this is also a great opportunity. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:20 | |
I mean, Morrisons have done a trial, | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
which we are going to talk about today, | 0:51:22 | 0:51:24 | |
of cosmetically graded-out vegetables. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:26 | |
Maybe they could be the first supermarket | 0:51:26 | 0:51:29 | |
to really do things differently, | 0:51:29 | 0:51:31 | |
so I don't want to just lose my rag. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
I'm feeling a bit Jekyll and Hyde | 0:51:34 | 0:51:35 | |
and I'm not sure which way it is going to go. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
'Head of communications Julian Bailey | 0:51:39 | 0:51:42 | |
'and head of corporate responsibility Steve Butts have assured me | 0:51:42 | 0:51:45 | |
'that they'll consider expanding the veg trial to other stores | 0:51:45 | 0:51:49 | |
'if it's proved popular with their customers.' | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
So we've been selling class one courgettes | 0:51:55 | 0:51:58 | |
-alongside class two courgettes. -Yes. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:00 | |
Pound for pound, they're the same price | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
and what we found was that the class one courgette | 0:52:03 | 0:52:07 | |
sold about twice as quickly as the class two courgettes. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:11 | |
-At the same price. -At the same price. -Not a massive surprise there, is it? | 0:52:11 | 0:52:15 | |
Cos nobody's saying there's zero difference between the two products. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:20 | |
But you know what I'm getting straight away? | 0:52:20 | 0:52:22 | |
Feel that soft end. That's squidgy. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:26 | |
I would bet all my horticultural money | 0:52:26 | 0:52:29 | |
that these courgettes are actually older. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:31 | |
They're not being picked at the same time, | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
whereas that is rock hard by comparison. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:38 | |
I can be absolutely clear that we're taking these at the same time | 0:52:38 | 0:52:41 | |
and they're coming through our supply chain in the same way. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
It didn't quite look like it was a level playing field. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
The thing is, customers look at a product | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
that is scarred or oddly shaped | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
and might go, "Actually, I don't want to buy that product." | 0:52:52 | 0:52:56 | |
The worst thing would be to move the problem | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
that you're saying is on the farm into our supermarkets. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
Well, it wouldn't be worse for the farmer | 0:53:01 | 0:53:03 | |
because they'd get paid for their produce. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
Lots of people are saying that's exactly what you should be doing. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:10 | |
You should be taking responsibility for it | 0:53:10 | 0:53:12 | |
and make it your problem because you're a supermarket. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
You're very good at selling stuff. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:17 | |
If it was your problem, I'm sure you'd solve it. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:19 | |
'What a shame that Morrisons won't look seriously | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
'at relaxing the cosmetic standards across all their produce. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:27 | |
'But surely they can't duck the issue | 0:53:27 | 0:53:29 | |
'of their repeated overnight order changes at Tattersett Farm?' | 0:53:29 | 0:53:32 | |
6.14pm - 385 packs. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:36 | |
The next morning - 285. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
It's gone down by 100 packs just because you've changed your mind | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
about how much you think you can sell. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:44 | |
And you've changed your mind overnight, while they were asleep | 0:53:44 | 0:53:47 | |
or while they were in the field pulling up the crop. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:50 | |
Surely that's not acceptable? Surely that has to change? | 0:53:50 | 0:53:52 | |
In terms of the specifics of the examples that you've got, | 0:53:52 | 0:53:56 | |
I don't know the reasons why. | 0:53:56 | 0:53:57 | |
What I do know is that suppliers like that, family businesses, | 0:53:57 | 0:54:01 | |
work directly with Morrisons and have done for a long, long time. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:04 | |
They can sell their produce anywhere they like. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:06 | |
Why are they still working with us? | 0:54:06 | 0:54:08 | |
If our buying practices are so bad, why are they still selling to us? | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
I would say that it's because, generally speaking, | 0:54:11 | 0:54:14 | |
there is a pretty good give and take with suppliers all the time. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:18 | |
What I feel like I'm hearing | 0:54:18 | 0:54:21 | |
is a very well-rehearsed explanation of the way that you do business. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:28 | |
What I am not really hearing is any sense of alarm or anxiety | 0:54:28 | 0:54:32 | |
about the sheer amount of food that is being wasted. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
I think it's time to acknowledge that you are causing the problem. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:39 | |
There are lots of people in the supply chain, | 0:54:39 | 0:54:41 | |
whether it's a farmer or a middleman or a retailer, | 0:54:41 | 0:54:44 | |
so the picture you are painting... | 0:54:44 | 0:54:46 | |
It sounds like you are going to share exciting news with me, | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
some initiative that you've got. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:50 | |
No, no. Ultimately, Hugh, at the end of the day, | 0:54:50 | 0:54:53 | |
if our customers want to buy it | 0:54:53 | 0:54:55 | |
and we can get the product, then we can sell it. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:57 | |
Would you like to see them say that? | 0:54:57 | 0:54:59 | |
Would that give you the confidence to do bold things about waste, | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
if your customers were asking you to do it? | 0:55:03 | 0:55:05 | |
I don't want to seem like I'm skirting around the issue. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:08 | |
It feels a bit like it. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:09 | |
It's very easy, but there are lots of good examples... | 0:55:09 | 0:55:12 | |
If you get a very clear message from your customers | 0:55:12 | 0:55:15 | |
that they are willing to meet you halfway, | 0:55:15 | 0:55:17 | |
they are ready to be adaptable on the subject of cosmetic standards... | 0:55:17 | 0:55:20 | |
We are listening to our customers, but the point... | 0:55:20 | 0:55:22 | |
-Will you respond to that very boldly? -Yes. -Yes. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
Yes, the point is, Hugh... | 0:55:25 | 0:55:27 | |
Fantastic, Steve! | 0:55:27 | 0:55:29 | |
Julian, you'll be behind that, won't you? | 0:55:29 | 0:55:31 | |
Of course, we listen to our customers. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:33 | |
Morrisons customers, I really need you to step up at this point | 0:55:33 | 0:55:36 | |
because if you don't tell these guys to do it, they're not going to do it. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
So, come on! Tell them you don't mind that much about cosmetic standards - | 0:55:39 | 0:55:43 | |
that you'd like to see farmers and suppliers | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
being treated really fairly. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
'No matter how big the organisation, the customer is king. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:53 | |
'That's you, and if you don't believe you have the power | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
'to change billion-pound corporations, | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
'then just look at what's happened | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
'since we started challenging them to waste less. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:04 | |
'Waitrose are talking to skip divers Sam and Catie | 0:56:06 | 0:56:09 | |
'about ways to distribute more of their surplus food - | 0:56:09 | 0:56:12 | |
'this time, legally. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:14 | |
'Asda, Tesco, Coop and Sainsbury's have all committed | 0:56:14 | 0:56:18 | |
'to send more food to FareShare and could be on track | 0:56:18 | 0:56:22 | |
'to meet my challenge of doubling their contribution. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:25 | |
'And just hours before our first show went on air, | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
'Morrisons announced they would send all their surplus food | 0:56:28 | 0:56:32 | |
'for redistribution through charities. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:34 | |
'But there's still one massive issue | 0:56:34 | 0:56:37 | |
'the supermarkets are just not stepping up to, | 0:56:37 | 0:56:40 | |
'so let's see if we can do something together | 0:56:40 | 0:56:43 | |
'to persuade them to see sense about those crazy cosmetic standards.' | 0:56:43 | 0:56:49 | |
"I agree that wasting millions of tonnes of food per year is immoral | 0:56:49 | 0:56:52 | |
-"and I want my supermarket to put a stop to this." -Without a doubt. | 0:56:52 | 0:56:55 | |
We want to make sure that gets eaten, not wasted. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:57 | |
I think that's a good idea. | 0:56:57 | 0:56:58 | |
'There's a simple pledge on the Wastenot website | 0:56:58 | 0:57:02 | |
'demanding that supermarkets stop wasting good food.' | 0:57:02 | 0:57:05 | |
Look at that pile of carrots. They're all rejects. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:08 | |
Yeah, I don't like waste. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:09 | |
'The more of us that sign it, the louder our voice.' | 0:57:09 | 0:57:12 | |
So if you tell me where you shop... Waitrose, Sainsbury's and M&S. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:15 | |
You're posh, aren't you? | 0:57:15 | 0:57:16 | |
OK, good, you're addressing it all. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:19 | |
'And I'll be back in the spring | 0:57:19 | 0:57:21 | |
'to let you know if our supermarkets really are listening.' | 0:57:21 | 0:57:25 | |
-Your pledge will make a difference. -I hope so. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:27 | |
-Together, we can do this. -We will! | 0:57:27 | 0:57:30 | |
You know what? Nobody's said no yet. It might be just because I'm on fire, | 0:57:30 | 0:57:35 | |
or it might be because it's a really good idea. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:38 | |
'Until then, let's show the supermarkets WE mean business | 0:57:38 | 0:57:42 | |
'in our war on waste.' | 0:57:42 | 0:57:45 |