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We all like to think we get a fair deal for our money, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
whether buying, selling or taking out a loan. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
And when times are hard it matters even more. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
But many of the deals on offer could cause you problems. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
Some could even wreck your life. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
Coming up, | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
what to do when your worst deal leaves you in fear for your life? | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
We meet the man who ended up owing millions to violent loan sharks. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
They make it painfully clear that they're going to hurt you, | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
they're going to hurt your children, they'll hurt your family, | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
if you don't continue to pay. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:38 | |
The financial lifeline offered to thousands | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
that turned out to be a con. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
They promised a lot and in return they never gave nothing back. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:48 | |
And we investigate the shocking cost of borrowing against your car. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
He did say that he could offer me just over £7,000 on the car | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
but the worry was the repayment over 18 months was £20,000. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
Loan sharks - | 0:01:04 | 0:01:05 | |
you might think they only affect the poorest in society, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
preying on those with low incomes or with no-one else to turn to, | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
but you'd be wrong. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
Jason Shifrin is a businessman from Essex. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
He's married to Nicole, has two children, and in the early 2000s | 0:01:16 | 0:01:21 | |
ran a successful jewellery and watch company. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
I was turning over over £1 million which was dominantly on watches - | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
high-end watches, high-end jewellery - and we had a fantastic life. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
But his life was nearly ended | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
by the consequences of getting into debt to a loan shark. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
At the end of 2001, Jason decided he wanted to expand his business, | 0:01:39 | 0:01:44 | |
and approached a friend about making an investment. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
It turned out to be the worst deal he ever made. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
He gave me £150,000 to invest into stock, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
which I had to pay him 6% a month interest on that money. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:58 | |
In the real world, 6% a month is probably suicidal | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
but at the time I was probably making 6% a week. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
But then everything changed. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
One day at the end of 2002, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
the friend who had lent Jason the money came to see him. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
He confessed he was in trouble | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
and had to leave the country immediately. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
The following day when he left, two people came into my office and said, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
"That money that you've been paying 6% a month on, it belongs to us, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:27 | |
"and we are now charging you 10% a month | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
"and if you don't continue to make the payments, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
"we're going to hurt your children." | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
To his horror, Jason discovered that without realising, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
he had ended up in the hands of loan sharks. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
'I was absolutely petrified.' | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
They don't care how or where you get their money from. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
So they make it very painfully clear that they're going to hurt you, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
they're going to hurt your children, they'll hurt your family, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
if you don't continue to pay. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
But Jason couldn't pay. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
In the wake of 9/11, when the world economy slumped, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
his business had been badly hit | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
and he simply didn't have the money the loan sharks were demanding. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
So he did what seemed at the time to be the only thing he could do - | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
he borrowed more, keeping track of all the different amounts in a small notebook. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:17 | |
I'd then go to another guy, a John - if we call him a John - | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
and I'd say to John, "I need some money to put into my business." | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
So when the month's up and I've got to pay John, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
I have to then go to John number two and borrow £170,000, | 0:03:27 | 0:03:33 | |
because I've got to pay John number one his £150 plus his interest. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
So then I go to John number three and I have to borrow £220,000. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
As the borrowing soared out of control, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
Jason turned to family and friends for money, telling them | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
it was for a business loan because he was ashamed to reveal the truth. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
He was convinced a deal would come along, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
his company would recover, and he'd be able to pay them back. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
Now when I sit back and look at it, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
I realise there's no way that I could have paid back that debt. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
It was impossible. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:04 | |
I needed to win the lottery, and then it became to the stage | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
where even if I won the lottery, that still wouldn't actually be enough. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
By the end of 2003, Jason owed an estimated £8 million, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:17 | |
and was stretched to breaking point. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
And then, the house of cards that he'd built came crashing down | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
when his out-of-control borrowing was finally exposed. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:28 | |
I received a phone call, from a business associate of Jason's | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
who phoned me and said, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
"I want to let you know that Jason's in a lot of trouble - | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
"he owes a lot of money to the wrong sort of people." | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
I was like, "What are you talking about?" | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
I'd had no idea about this at all. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
The Shifrins had a Christmas holiday booked, and with the secret now out in the open, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
decided to use it as a chance to take stock. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
But Nicole still didn't realise just how bad the situation had become. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:57 | |
When we went away at Christmas 2003, that's when I realised | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
that everything was over and I was just panicking, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
I was in a cold sweat, I just didn't know what to do with myself. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
And I'm standing on this balcony, looking down at the swimming pool - | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
all I was thinking about was the humiliation, | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
and I just felt that the best option now was just to jump. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
Jason managed to overcome his suicidal thoughts, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
but he was still in a desperate situation. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
He owed a lot of money to some very nasty people, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
who were waiting for him back in the UK. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
It was horrendous - people had phoned up the travel agent to find out when I was coming back. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:37 | |
I had to change my flight because there was going to be people waiting for me at Heathrow Airport. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
By this time my family know, all my friends know, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
it's out there that I'm in a lot of trouble. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
Later, we learn why buying time by causing a potentially lethal pile-up | 0:05:46 | 0:05:51 | |
was a better option for Jason than a meeting with the loan sharks. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:56 | |
I decided the best thing I can do is have a crash on the M25. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
Being in debt can cause heartache at the best of times. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
But what's even worse is | 0:06:08 | 0:06:09 | |
when the company you've borrowed from makes your life a misery. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
No-one knows this better than Jeannette and Frank Sharratt from Blackpool, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
who agreed to a deal they thought would give them financial security. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:22 | |
Instead, it turned out to be the worst deal they ever made, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
leaving them owing £100,000. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
Jeanette is a full-time carer to Frank | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
after a stroke left him confined to the house. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
-I look after you, don't I? -Oh. -Oh, I do. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
'I'm very, very angry.' | 0:06:40 | 0:06:41 | |
I'll never stop being angry till the day I die, because I keep thinking | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
not only what they've done to me but what they've done to my poor husband. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:50 | |
The problems started when Jeannette and Frank decided to make what can often be a very bad deal - | 0:06:50 | 0:06:56 | |
taking out a loan secured against their home. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
Following an accident at work, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
Frank had to leave his job as a tram driver on Blackpool's seafront. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:06 | |
Not having Frank's income hit them hard financially, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
so they decided to take out a loan for £2,000 | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
with a company called London North Securities. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
I swear I didn't borrow this money to do anything posh with | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
or have a holiday or a trip, or buy myself a new coat. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
It was basically just for the children, so they could always | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
have a good school uniform and they could have school dinners. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
On top of the £2,000 loan, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
London North Securities charged a £450 set-up fee and 40% interest. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:42 | |
It was a hefty price to pay | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
and the Sharratts soon started missing payments. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
And when they did, | 0:07:47 | 0:07:48 | |
London North Securities added on heavy default charges. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
It didn't take long for them to bump things up | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
because they kept adding things on. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
They kept adding more and more and more and more and more on, | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
inventing things. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
Unable to meet all the payment demands, the Sharratts started | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
receiving threatening phone calls and letters from the company. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
I got 18 phone calls in one day, once, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
and they used to just laugh down the phone. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
I thought, "It's no good me crying and screaming." | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
I used to go, "Ha-ha-ha, carry on doing it, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
"I'm here all day, how long have you got?" You know, trying to be brave. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
Desperate to get the company off their backs, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
Jeanette and Frank decided to sell their possessions. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
I'd sold everything I could possibly sell. I mean, I started off with | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
this gorgeous, big diamond ring - | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
that went, just to pay them extra money. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
Me beautiful wedding band went, it was 22 carat gold, it was the best. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
I had velvet curtains, beautiful velvet curtains, I had beautiful furniture. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
Everything had to go - if it wasn't nailed down, it went. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
The money they raised kept the company at bay - briefly. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
But the monstrous interest rates as part of the deal | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
meant they were soon failing to make their payments again. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
In response, London North Securities decided to take the couple | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
to court to repossess their home, as the loan had been secured on it. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:09 | |
They told me to my face in court, "We want that house. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
"There's a charge on it and we're going to get that house, | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
"and we want £100,000 off this woman and we want £1,400 a month interest." | 0:09:15 | 0:09:22 | |
And all that has stemmed from a £2,000 loan | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
which they've had ten times over. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
By now, the Sharratts had already paid over £10,000 in repayments | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
on the original £2,000 loan, and had nothing left. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:37 | |
But with legal fees, interest and default charges, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
the company wanted £100,000 - or the family home. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:45 | |
Everything depended on the judge's decision. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
To their great relief, he wasted no time | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
in throwing the case out of court and writing off the rest of the debt. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
All of a sudden he said, "Mrs Sharratt." So I said, "Yes." | 0:09:54 | 0:10:00 | |
"You can go home now," he said. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
"Don't worry any more, go home now, you're safe." | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
He said, "They can't touch your house." | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
Honestly, I felt like dancing on air after I'd won. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:13 | |
But the triumph was short-lived. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
As the couple left the building, to begin their debt-free life, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
Frank had a stroke on the courthouse steps | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
which has left him bed-bound and unable to speak. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
Just fell down like that, you see. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
Just must have waited to see me winning and that was it. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
So you see, they've done it to him. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
The Sharratts were not the only people to have had their lives | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
ruined by London North Securities. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
After receiving dozens of complaints, | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
the Office Of Fair Trading took them to court | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
and in 2010 they were found guilty of illegal debt collection. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
'By securing a conviction,' | 0:10:48 | 0:10:49 | |
this led to the situation in which | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
the company was required to pay compensation | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
to the people who had been, frankly, ripped off by that company. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
London North Securities were ordered to pay £400,000 | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
to over 50 customers. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
70 charges that they held on people's houses were also removed. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
The judge who heard the case was highly critical of the company | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
and the individuals concerned with it. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
He spoke of the distress that was caused to the consumers | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
and he described the company's behaviour as utterly heartless. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
But London North Securities isn't the only company out there | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
preying on desperate borrowers like Jeanette and Frank. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
Last year, the OFT shut down nearly 40 companies for unfair practices | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
and the number has been steadily growing year on year. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
If you have a poor credit rating and can't borrow from the bank, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
then getting a loan can be tough. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
One solution that's becoming more popular is the logbook loan. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
But it's a deal that many say is the worst they ever made, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
leaving some customers fending off bailiffs | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
or even having to pay out for other people's debts. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
It was heartbreaking. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:04 | |
how can this company do that to somebody who is so vulnerable? | 0:12:04 | 0:12:10 | |
A logbook loan is a loan secured against your car. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
There are few credit checks because the amount you can borrow | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
depends mainly on the vehicle's value. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
It's quick and simple, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
and you can drive away with the cash in just a couple of hours. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
But there are risks. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
The main problems concerned with logbook loans | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
are first of all, the sheer affordability factor. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
We're talking about huge rates of interest, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
sometimes 500, 1,000% APR is not untypical. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:38 | |
Borrow £1,000 and you could end up repaying well over £3,000 | 0:12:38 | 0:12:43 | |
over the life of the loan. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
And there's an even bigger catch. When you take out the loan, | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
you have to sign a credit agreement known as a bill of sale, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
and hand over the vehicle registration certificate, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
the logbook, so the company now own your car. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
The minute you sign your name on that agreement, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
you're effectively handing the keys to that lender. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
The minute you default, the car becomes theirs. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
That's what happened to Sarah Dudley, after she took out a loan | 0:13:07 | 0:13:12 | |
with a company called Nine Regions, also known as Logbook Loans. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
Sarah has a degenerative spinal disease | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
and relies heavily on her car to get to the shops and the hospital. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
When the car needed an MOT and service to keep it on the road, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
Sarah found she didn't have enough money to pay for it. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:32 | |
Obviously, I'm disabled, I can't work | 0:13:32 | 0:13:37 | |
and I had no other option but to get a logbook loan. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
Sarah borrowed £1,000. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
She was due to pay back £167 a month over 18 months - a total of £3,000. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:51 | |
At first, everything was fine | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
but when her health took a turn for the worse | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
and she was admitted to hospital, she missed a couple of repayments. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
When I was moved back onto a normal ward, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
I did phone Nine Regions and I explained to them my situation - | 0:14:03 | 0:14:08 | |
I'm in hospital at the moment, I'm very, very poorly, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:14 | |
and as soon as I get out of hospital, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
I will be able to sort out and make a payment. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
The company told Sarah not to worry, they could work out a payment plan. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:26 | |
But a few days later, when she'd just been discharged from hospital, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
she received some unexpected visitors. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
'I wasn't very well that weekend. I was in a lot of pain.' | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
I'd actually got off to sleep for about two hours, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
and then my carer shouted out, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
"Somebody's trying to steal your car." | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
I went out and there was two gentlemen stood there, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:52 | |
dressed in black, they were trying to clamp my car, in a disabled bay. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:58 | |
It's 5am in the morning, it's still dark. It's Sunday. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
It was absolutely terrifying. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
The men told Sarah they were from Logbook Loans | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
and they were there to repossess her car. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
They drove my car out and away. I was just lost for words. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:16 | |
I felt like...my world had ended, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:21 | |
because without my vehicle, what am I to do? | 0:15:21 | 0:15:26 | |
The problem Sarah was facing was that the company was | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
legally entitled to take her car without warning, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
and there was nothing she could do about it. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
That's because logbook loans | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
are not covered by the same laws as other forms of credit. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
Logbook loans are regulated by | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
something called the Bills Of Sales Act, that goes back as far as 1878. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:48 | |
So 140 years ago, ship captains who wanted to borrow money, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:53 | |
and they would use their vessels as security for that money. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
But these people who were taking out these loans | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
would go to a series of different lenders, | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
so this act was brought into account | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
to protect the lenders from any fraud that was taking place. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
But because the legislation was designed to benefit lenders | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
and not consumers, it doesn't contain any of the protections | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
provided by modern consumer law. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
Lenders can always take their vehicle back at any point | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
if the consumer is in breach of their obligations - | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
ie, they don't pay - and that's one of the real worries for us. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
In consumer credit legislation, hire purchase legislation, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
there are safeguards built in to protect the consumer. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
That's the sort of protection we'd like to see in bills of sales legislation - | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
it's not there now and it needs to be. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
Sarah ended up having to fight the case in court | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
but she did eventually get her car back. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
And last year, Logbook Loans and its parent company, Nine Regions, | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
had its Consumer Credit Licence revoked by the OFT | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
for deliberately deceiving customers. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
The company has appealed and is still allowed to trade | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
while a final decision is reached. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
I would say that after the experience that I've had, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
don't ever get a logbook loan, don't ever, ever get one. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
Because you will be left heartbroken. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
You will be left with nightmares. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
Coming up, the threats of violence to loan shark victim Jason Shifrin | 0:17:12 | 0:17:17 | |
become terrifyingly real. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
They had a pickaxe | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
and they smashed about four of the windows in on my wife's car. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
Owing money can be extremely stressful, and most people | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
will do whatever it takes to clear their debts as quickly as possible. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
But there are criminals out to take advantage of that determination, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
offering you a deal to erase your debts entirely, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
charging you an upfront fee for the service, and then doing nothing. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
It's a scam known as advance fee fraud | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
and for many, it's the worst deal they ever made. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
The Government introduced a new scheme that enables you to eliminate | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
100% of your debt within 12 months. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
To see if you qualify, press 2 on your phone now. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
'It completely gutted me, to be quite honest.' | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
I was just...in a complete state of shock. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:15 | |
They promised a lot and in return they never gave nothing back. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
Barrie Cresswell was a successful businessman from Surrey. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:24 | |
He had two construction companies, lived a comfortable lifestyle, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
and even owned his own boat. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
But in 2008, his main company fell into difficulties. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
In the good days, obviously, there's plenty of work about and people have extensions built. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:40 | |
Of course, as the recession bites our work falls by the wayside. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:45 | |
With the bills mounting and the situation looking precarious, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
Barrie took the risky decision to start paying for company expenses | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
on his personal credit cards. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
Things got so bad at the end of 2008, | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
we couldn't find the cash to pay some of the wages | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
and I had to go around the banks with various credit cards, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
drawing money out of the cash points to get enough to clear the wages. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:14 | |
Barrie ended up taking on about £15,000-worth of company debt. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:20 | |
But it wasn't enough, and in 2009 his main company went bust. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
It was at that point | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
that I couldn't continue paying and everything went pear shaped. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
Barrie and his wife found themselves drowning in debt, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
which had by now risen to over £90,000, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
and they had no way to pay it off. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
But then, out of the blue, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
Barrie was thrown what seemed to be a lifeline. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
I received a call from a company offering to challenge | 0:19:49 | 0:19:54 | |
any credit card debts or personal loan agreements that I'd got, | 0:19:54 | 0:20:00 | |
and saying that they were working on a government initiative. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
The company said that thanks to a legal loophole, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
Barrie's credit card agreements were invalid | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
and all his debts could be written off. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
I wasn't convinced that it was true, exactly, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
but stranger things happen and as I say, I was desperate. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
Barrie decided to go ahead and paid the company £1,700 | 0:20:18 | 0:20:24 | |
to put the process of erasing his debts into action. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
I was hopeful that it was going to work | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
because it was really the only light I had at the end of the tunnel. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:36 | |
The same company also said they could help Kal Chandla, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
from Stoke-on-Trent. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
He runs a family grocery store and like Barrie, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
had got into financial difficulties over several years. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
Three years ago a new shop opened, so that affected us big style, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
'because a lot of our customers used to come from | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
'where the new shop's situated. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
'And so we were down quite a few hundred pounds a day,' | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
and obviously the recession came along, that made things a lot harder. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:06 | |
With Kal only just managing to make the minimum payments on his debts, | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
they soon mounted up to £30,000. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
On numerous occasions, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
I started missing out on paying the minimum payment. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
'With no payments you get penalised for late payment charges and default charges,' | 0:21:19 | 0:21:24 | |
so basically your debt's increasing rather than decreasing. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
Desperate to get his family back on track, Kal searched online | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
and came across a company that seemed to be the answer to his prayers. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
Like Barrie, Kal was told that a legal loophole meant his credit card debts | 0:21:36 | 0:21:41 | |
could be written off, thanks to a flaw in the terms and conditions. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
I thought at the time, I've got a good chance of getting out of debt. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
I thought, "If there's more money I have to give out, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
which wasn't a problem, hopefully long term, I'd be out of the debt." | 0:21:53 | 0:21:58 | |
Kal agreed to pay the company £1,100, filled in the paperwork, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
and sat back to wait for the results. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
Barrie and Kal both heard back from the company and were told | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
they would be sent a series of letters to forward on to their creditors. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
When they received replies from those creditors, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
they were instructed to send them back to the company. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
I sent out the letters that they sent to me, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
sent the responses back to them, waited, heard nothing, so I chased them. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:27 | |
They sent out the other letters, I sent the responses back to them, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:32 | |
heard nothing, and this went on for in excess of six months. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
After between three and six months I started getting a bit concerned, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:42 | |
knowing that nothing's been done, the debt's still there. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
With the case dragging on for months and months with no results, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
Barrie started to get suspicious. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
At one point I got so frustrated, I sent them a really stroppy e-mail | 0:22:52 | 0:22:58 | |
saying, "You told me you would sort this out. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
"Either you are a genuine company and you're going to help me | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
"or you're a bunch of shysters." | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
And the next thing I knew was | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
I was contacted by the Trading Standards people. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:16 | |
We became aware of the scam | 0:23:18 | 0:23:19 | |
around 2009, when we started to receive a number of complaints, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
and that was when we decided to investigate. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
We found a variety of people getting sucked in by this scam. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
Because they've been in debt, possibly for a long time, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
they don't see any way out of this debt | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
and when a company offers something that seems too good to be true, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
unfortunately some of these people do still go along with that. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
I felt I was being conned. It was a devastating blow, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
and I, myself...everything just went boom, downhill. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:50 | |
It's a fairly standard advance fee fraud, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
where you're asked to pay some money up front to receive a service | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
and then that service never happens. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
In fact, the scam is so common | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
that it wasn't long before Kal Chandla was called again. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
I actually had another company ring me called Buy Bye Credit, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
they actually came to my house, and I thought, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:14 | |
"If they're actually coming to see me face-to-face maybe they are genuine." | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
After talking things through, Kal was convinced | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
and agreed to pay Buy Bye Credit £900 to eliminate his debt. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:27 | |
But as with the first company, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
once he'd paid his money, all contact ceased. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
I was a lot more concerned now than I was before. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
I was getting depressed, thinking I've been done again, second time around. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:41 | |
Buy Bye Credit's website no longer exists | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
and they haven't filed any company accounts for over two-and-a-half years. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
Kal is unlikely to be getting his money back. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
There are no actual legal loopholes for people to completely wipe off their debts. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
People have to go down the proper route, | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
by filing for bankruptcy, there are things like debt relief orders, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
but these have to be applied for through a court. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
However, they can get free advice before doing anything | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
from Citizens Advice Bureaus or the National Debtline. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
Barry has done just that. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
He's now signed up with National Debtline, who are helping him | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
to make repayment agreements with his creditors. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
At present rate of repayments, it's going to take me 77 years | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
to pay off credit cards and personal loans. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
The company that Barrie and Kal dealt with originally | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
can't be named while Suffolk Trading Standards are investigating them. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
We know that at least 4,000 people have been taken in by this scam, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
it may be more, and these people were paying | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
anything from £100 up to £1,000 to have their debts wiped out. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
So it's easy to see the scale of this operation | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
and just how much money these people were potentially making. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
I obviously should have learnt from my first experience, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
with me being the person I am, quite gullible and naive. | 0:25:55 | 0:26:01 | |
This time it really knocked me out. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
I've never known an experience like that, | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
whereby I've been hit not just once but twice. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:10 | |
If somebody rang me up and said they'd had a call | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
from a company like that, I'd say, "Ignore it." | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
If it could be done, it would be on the national news. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
It must be a con, it must be a con. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
Logbook loans are big business in the UK. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
In 2010 the market was estimated to be worth almost £40 million. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:36 | |
But as their popularity increases, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
so does the number of people getting into trouble, like Sarah Dudley, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
whose car was repossessed after she fell into arrears. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
It was heartbreaking. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:48 | |
How can this company do that to somebody who is so vulnerable? | 0:26:48 | 0:26:54 | |
Registered debt counsellor Mike Thomas, a former policeman, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
now runs a website giving free advice to people with money worries. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
He fights for the consumer rights of people who've taken up deals | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
they now regret. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:07 | |
He's hearing more and more horror stories about logbook loans | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
and wants to find out exactly what's going on. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
I'm actually quite concerned about these loans. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
Are consumers being made aware of what happens | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
when you go into arrears, for example? | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
Are they aware of the default charges? | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
They can add nearly £100 a month in phone calls and letter charges. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
Are they aware the vehicle can be repossessed without a court order? | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
And as the company own your car for the duration of the loan, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
should you fall behind with payments you could lose your vehicle. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:40 | |
Mike wants to find out why logbook loans are causing so many problems. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:45 | |
Are customers being given the right information? | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
How easy is it to get approved? | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
And just how expensive is it to borrow against your car? | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
What I'm going to do now is contact three logbook loan companies | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
and try to replicate the experience that consumer goes through. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
Don't know much about it, | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
put logbook loan in the internet and see what comes up. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
The idea is I'll take my car along and go and see three of them | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
and see if they do a good job or not. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
Morning, I'm just interested in taking a loan out against my car. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:17 | |
I just wondered what the procedure is, what I need to do with you guys. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
Mike gives some details over the phone | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
and makes appointments with three national logbook lenders. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
They each arrange to meet him in the local town centre | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
where an agent will check over the car and look at his documents. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
Once approved, if Mike actually wanted to take out a loan, | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
he'd be able to drive away with the money. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
Thanks, bye. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
The first company he's going to see is Logbook Loans, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
who Sarah Dudley dealt with. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
On the phone they told Mike that to borrow £20,00 over 18 months | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
his total repayments would be over £5,500. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:59 | |
But at the meeting they tell him that if he wants, | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
he can borrow even more. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:03 | |
I've been to see the guy. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:04 | |
He did say that he could offer me just over £7,000 on the car | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
but the worry was the repayments over 18 months was 20,000. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:13 | |
I had to push him to get quite a bit of information out of him, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
particularly about the repossession. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
He didn't tell me that they could actually come and take my car | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
without a court order. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
So he wasn't clear on that, I actually had to push him. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
The second company Mike's going to see is V5 Loans. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:31 | |
The thing that comes to mind is | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
how simple it is to get a loan against your car. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
But there's no credit check on you. It's just too easy. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
At the meeting, V5 Loans tell Mike that to borrow | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
£2,000 for 18 months, his total repayments would be over £5,800. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:50 | |
That's the second meeting done. I do have some concerns. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
One is that the paperwork that I was given, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
there's ten pages and it's pretty small print. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
I felt intimidated and under pressure that if I was to do the deal there and then, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
I've got to go through all these pages and sign. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
Not many people will read it word for word | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
when there's someone over the table looking at you. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
But it's too easy. It's easy to get money | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
and I think the logbook loan companies aren't checking | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
whether consumers can actually afford to pay the loans. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
No wonder people get into trouble weeks later and they can't afford it, | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
because they couldn't afford it in the first place. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
The third company Mike's going to visit is Mobile Money. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
They've told him that if he borrows £2,000 for 18 months, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
his total repayments will be £5,990. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:36 | |
When I first got in there - it's not private, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
there was another client just round the corner, completely open, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
and he took on a 24-month programme at £258 a month. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
I heard everything. When I finally got in to sit in front of this chap, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
he didn't tell me about the additional charges, that when you are in arrears, the £12 a letter. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:54 | |
He doesn't want a great deal of evidence about my income. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
I could have easily walked out of there within 15-20 minutes with cash, | 0:30:58 | 0:31:03 | |
because I heard him counting out the cash for the guy before. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
Again, it just proves it's so easy to get a logbook loan. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
Clearly, we can see that the odds are stacked in their favour. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
If you default, they've got the car. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
If you don't default, they've got the interest. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
It's a good product for them, it's bad news for consumers | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
and that's why we urge consumers to find another way. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
Dealing with logbook loans as a solution to getting out of debt | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
is not a sustainable strategy. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
We asked all three companies to comment. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
Only Mobile Money responded. They said... | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
From what Mike's seen, there's no doubt that | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
logbook loans are both extremely expensive and easy to get. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:06 | |
Of the three logbook loans companies we visited, | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
all wanted to charge Mike over 400% APR. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
But it's not just the high cost that's a problem. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
Some people are finding they're getting into trouble with logbook loans | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
without even taking one out. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:21 | |
I couldn't believe this was happening. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
In the back of my mind I kept thinking, "This is wrong, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
"and I'll get my bike back, everything will be all right." | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
The logbook loan business is booming. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
Between 2006 and 2009, the numbers of people taking one out | 0:32:36 | 0:32:41 | |
increased by nearly 40%, to 38,000. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:46 | |
That's 38,000 vehicles on the road with a loan secured against them. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:51 | |
A logbook loan means they're owned by the loan company, not the driver. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:56 | |
So, if you bought your vehicle second hand, | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
you could be in for a nasty shock, | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
as happened to Oliver Martin from north London. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
For him, buying a second-hand motorbike from a private seller | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
for £6,000 turned out to be his worst deal. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
It's an amazing bike, it's fantastic, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
it's one of the top bikes, I would say. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
But early one morning, Olly got a wake-up call from the bailiffs. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:24 | |
I was asleep. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:25 | |
Around 6:30 in the morning the doorbell was ringing continuously. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:30 | |
I woke up, I thought it must be some emergency or something. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
Went to the door half asleep, and there were two guys out there | 0:33:36 | 0:33:41 | |
saying they were bailiffs and they had come to repossess my bike. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
I asked them what they were talking about | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
because I bought my bike for cash, so there was no finance on the bike. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:53 | |
But a previous owner had taken out a logbook loan for £4,000 | 0:33:53 | 0:33:58 | |
and then not paid it back. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
He sold the bike on, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
and it changed hands several times before Olly then bought it. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
He had no idea that there was a loan taken out against it, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
but the bailiffs wheeled the bike away. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
I couldn't believe this was happening | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
but in the back of my mind I kept thinking, "This is wrong, | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
"and I'll get my bike back, everything will be all right." | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
The original owner had carried out a clever con, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
taking out a logbook loan, then selling the bike on quickly, | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
knowing the loan company would go after the vehicle and not the borrower. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:33 | |
Now Olly was left without the bike he'd paid £6,000 for. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
He was shocked, because he'd done a finance check before buying it | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
and the results had been clear. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
I called the police and I said exactly what happened - | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
bailiffs came to take the bike, and I wasn't going to let them take it. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:50 | |
The police advised me that if I didn't let them take the bike, | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
they'd come and arrest me for breach of the peace. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
The company was allowed to repossess the bike | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
because under the terms of the original loan agreement | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
with the previous owner, it belonged to them. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
And although the industry has a new code of conduct | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
which suggests lenders register agreements on a central database, | 0:35:09 | 0:35:13 | |
it's not a legal requirement. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
It means that when you do the usual checks before buying a vehicle, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
any logbook loan may not show up. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
One of the things that the code of practice does is urges lenders | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
to make a record, so we'll start to see different loans recorded against different vehicles. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:31 | |
But that's not been in place before, so there is a lot of vehicles with bills of sales attached to them | 0:35:31 | 0:35:37 | |
where we have no way of finding out whether these bills of sales are in place or not. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
It's a problem many used vehicle buyers are falling foul of. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:46 | |
We get calls from people saying, "There's a bailiff on my doorstep, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
"he thinks this car's his but I've had no dealings with this company at all." | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
When we explore and they explain the fact there's a bill of sale linked to that vehicle, | 0:35:54 | 0:36:00 | |
then it becomes very clear they haven't got much of a leg to stand on. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
The practical steps are to negotiate with the finance company | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
to almost buy back the vehicle which they already own. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
So Olly started a painful battle to get his bike back from the loan company. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:16 | |
To get my bike back was an absolute nightmare. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
The loans company demanded £4,000 for my own bike back, | 0:36:19 | 0:36:26 | |
which I had already paid £6,500 for. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
Obviously I refused, because this is my bike, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
why would I buy my own bike back? | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
It took five months of legal wrangling, and in the end | 0:36:35 | 0:36:41 | |
my solicitor suggested I make an offer of, I think £500. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:46 | |
The lender accepted Olly's offer and gave back the bike, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
saving him from an expensive court hearing. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
But while the Bills Of Sale Act remains in place, | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
other buyers may not be so lucky. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
For us, logbook loans, bills of sale are a 19th century product | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
that should stay in the 19th century. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
We've been calling for government to abolish this particular product - | 0:37:05 | 0:37:09 | |
it's outdated, it's unfair, it's out of touch with modern day society | 0:37:09 | 0:37:14 | |
and it's time it was banned. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
Jason Shifrin owed millions of pounds to loan sharks. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:24 | |
For a couple of years, he'd been borrowing from one | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
to pay off another, until it finally got to the point | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
where he had to admit he couldn't pay them back. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
But this wasn't like telling the bank you can't repay your overdraft. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
They're not the type of people that give you a second chance. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
If you're paying them money every month without a problem, they're great. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
If you say, "I've got a problem," they're not interested. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
They're interested in getting their money back. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
If they don't get their money back, they hurt you. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
I really didn't know what would have happened. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
Someone could have shot him or us, | 0:37:54 | 0:37:55 | |
someone could have taken my children. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
Anything in your wildest nightmares could have happened. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
So the Shifrins sold their house and went into hiding. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
Nobody knew where we lived, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
even my closest friends didn't know where we lived, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
and any time we had to walk out the front door, | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
it was a case of put a big coat on, hood up, keep your head down | 0:38:14 | 0:38:19 | |
and just don't make eye contact with anyone. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
But Jason was determined to pay the money back | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
so his family could live a normal life. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
To help him, his parents sold their house | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
and cashed in their life savings. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
But it wasn't nearly enough money, and now they were involved, too. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:38 | |
One day my dad was driving home from his factory | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
and as he pulled onto his drive, three hooded men approached him | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
and they said, "You need to come with us." | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
The men grabbed Jason's dad and started taping up his arms and legs. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
He ended up getting badly hurt, | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
because he was being thrown around on the floor and all sorts of things | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
whilst they were trying to tape him up. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
Jason's mum called 999 and managed to scare the attackers off. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:05 | |
That was by far the worst thing that's ever happened in my life | 0:39:05 | 0:39:10 | |
and the most despicable. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
Not only have I ruined their life, not only have I taken their wealth, | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
then you have to live with the guilt | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
of knowing that your father has been hurt because of your actions. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:25 | |
The Shifrins were subjected to a campaign of fear and intimidation by the loan sharks. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:31 | |
To protect himself and his family, Jason had a state-of-the-art | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
multi-camera CCTV system installed at his house. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
Now he was actually able to catch the loan sharks on camera. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
Some people that I owed money to, they walked onto the drive | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
and they had a pickaxe, | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
and they smashed about four of the windows in on my wife's car. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:55 | |
Jason was still making what payments he could, | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
but he owed so much to so many people that it was never enough. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:03 | |
He was getting more and more desperate. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
I had to go to a meeting with some people that I owed money to | 0:40:05 | 0:40:09 | |
and I knew if I turned up at the meeting I would get hurt, at best. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:16 | |
'So I'm trying to think of a way of delaying the meeting,' | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
and I decided the best thing I can do is have a crash on the M25. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:24 | |
So I drove into the back of a lorry. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
I waited for the traffic to slow down and I pretended I misjudged the brake | 0:40:28 | 0:40:34 | |
and I slammed straight into the back of a juggernaut. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
Jason's car span out of control and ended up on its side in a ditch. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:49 | |
Someone called an ambulance. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
I had about four or five phones in the car at the time | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
and they were all just ringing constantly. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
I said, "Will you answer it and tell them that I've been in an accident." | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
Obviously she didn't have a clue who she was talking to | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
and she told them that, and it got me the time I needed. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
To Jason, at the time, | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
deliberately crashing his car seemed like the only thing he could do. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
Sometimes to survive to the end of the week means | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
you have to smash into the back of a lorry on the M25. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:21 | |
That seems the most irrational thing you could ever possibly say, | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
but I'm walking into the lions' den. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
I'm walking into a meeting where there are killers sitting there. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
Many times, Jason considered telling the police about what was going on. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:36 | |
But although he had been in contact with them several times | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
throughout his ordeal, he was too terrified | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
to reveal the full story, in case the loan sharks found out. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
Making a formal statement simply wasn't an option. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
The police said they could help me if I'd provide them with information, | 0:41:50 | 0:41:55 | |
and they'd effectively put me into protective custody. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
But why would I want to live the rest of my life as David Jones, | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
living in some remote part of the country? | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
That's not living. I might as well have been dead. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
Without help from the authorities, | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
it was up to Jason to deal with the problems by himself. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
So far it's taken him nearly a decade, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
and he still has debts hanging over him. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:23 | |
I still currently owe the best part of £500,000. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
Some of that money is owed to gangsters/money lenders, | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
and some is owed to family and friends, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
and I'm working hard to try and pay them back. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
Even though the size of Jason's debt is unimaginable to most people, | 0:42:37 | 0:42:41 | |
the trauma he went through is a common experience | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
for anyone who borrows from loan sharks. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
People have got in touch with me and said, "We feel really relieved | 0:42:47 | 0:42:53 | |
"because we only owe £2,000 and you owe all this money." | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
But the difference between them and me is noughts. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
So if you're in debt of £100 or £1 million, you feel the same pressure. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:06 | |
Debt is debt and it's horrible. Horrible. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
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