Episode 1 My Worst Deal


Episode 1

Similar Content

Browse content similar to Episode 1. Check below for episodes and series from the same categories and more!

Transcript


LineFromTo

We all like to think we get a fair deal for our money,

0:00:020:00:05

whether buying, selling or taking out a loan.

0:00:050:00:07

And when times are hard it matters even more.

0:00:070:00:10

But many of the deals on offer could cause you problems.

0:00:100:00:14

Some could even wreck your life.

0:00:140:00:16

Coming up,

0:00:210:00:23

what to do when your worst deal leaves you in fear for your life?

0:00:230:00:27

We meet the man who ended up owing millions to violent loan sharks.

0:00:270:00:30

They make it painfully clear that they're going to hurt you,

0:00:300:00:33

they're going to hurt your children, they'll hurt your family,

0:00:330:00:37

if you don't continue to pay.

0:00:370:00:38

The financial lifeline offered to thousands

0:00:380:00:41

that turned out to be a con.

0:00:410:00:43

They promised a lot and in return they never gave nothing back.

0:00:430:00:48

And we investigate the shocking cost of borrowing against your car.

0:00:480:00:51

He did say that he could offer me just over £7,000 on the car

0:00:530:00:56

but the worry was the repayment over 18 months was £20,000.

0:00:560:01:00

Loan sharks -

0:01:040:01:05

you might think they only affect the poorest in society,

0:01:050:01:08

preying on those with low incomes or with no-one else to turn to,

0:01:080:01:12

but you'd be wrong.

0:01:120:01:14

Jason Shifrin is a businessman from Essex.

0:01:140:01:16

He's married to Nicole, has two children, and in the early 2000s

0:01:160:01:21

ran a successful jewellery and watch company.

0:01:210:01:24

I was turning over over £1 million which was dominantly on watches -

0:01:240:01:28

high-end watches, high-end jewellery - and we had a fantastic life.

0:01:280:01:32

But his life was nearly ended

0:01:330:01:35

by the consequences of getting into debt to a loan shark.

0:01:350:01:38

At the end of 2001, Jason decided he wanted to expand his business,

0:01:390:01:44

and approached a friend about making an investment.

0:01:440:01:47

It turned out to be the worst deal he ever made.

0:01:470:01:50

He gave me £150,000 to invest into stock,

0:01:500:01:53

which I had to pay him 6% a month interest on that money.

0:01:530:01:58

In the real world, 6% a month is probably suicidal

0:01:580:02:02

but at the time I was probably making 6% a week.

0:02:020:02:06

But then everything changed.

0:02:060:02:08

One day at the end of 2002,

0:02:080:02:10

the friend who had lent Jason the money came to see him.

0:02:100:02:14

He confessed he was in trouble

0:02:140:02:16

and had to leave the country immediately.

0:02:160:02:18

The following day when he left, two people came into my office and said,

0:02:180:02:22

"That money that you've been paying 6% a month on, it belongs to us,

0:02:220:02:27

"and we are now charging you 10% a month

0:02:270:02:30

"and if you don't continue to make the payments,

0:02:300:02:34

"we're going to hurt your children."

0:02:340:02:36

To his horror, Jason discovered that without realising,

0:02:360:02:40

he had ended up in the hands of loan sharks.

0:02:400:02:42

'I was absolutely petrified.'

0:02:420:02:44

They don't care how or where you get their money from.

0:02:440:02:48

So they make it very painfully clear that they're going to hurt you,

0:02:480:02:51

they're going to hurt your children, they'll hurt your family,

0:02:510:02:54

if you don't continue to pay.

0:02:540:02:56

But Jason couldn't pay.

0:02:560:02:59

In the wake of 9/11, when the world economy slumped,

0:02:590:03:02

his business had been badly hit

0:03:020:03:04

and he simply didn't have the money the loan sharks were demanding.

0:03:040:03:08

So he did what seemed at the time to be the only thing he could do -

0:03:080:03:11

he borrowed more, keeping track of all the different amounts in a small notebook.

0:03:110:03:17

I'd then go to another guy, a John - if we call him a John -

0:03:170:03:21

and I'd say to John, "I need some money to put into my business."

0:03:210:03:24

So when the month's up and I've got to pay John,

0:03:240:03:27

I have to then go to John number two and borrow £170,000,

0:03:270:03:33

because I've got to pay John number one his £150 plus his interest.

0:03:330:03:37

So then I go to John number three and I have to borrow £220,000.

0:03:370:03:41

As the borrowing soared out of control,

0:03:410:03:44

Jason turned to family and friends for money, telling them

0:03:440:03:48

it was for a business loan because he was ashamed to reveal the truth.

0:03:480:03:52

He was convinced a deal would come along,

0:03:520:03:54

his company would recover, and he'd be able to pay them back.

0:03:540:03:58

Now when I sit back and look at it,

0:03:580:04:00

I realise there's no way that I could have paid back that debt.

0:04:000:04:03

It was impossible.

0:04:030:04:04

I needed to win the lottery, and then it became to the stage

0:04:040:04:07

where even if I won the lottery, that still wouldn't actually be enough.

0:04:070:04:11

By the end of 2003, Jason owed an estimated £8 million,

0:04:110:04:17

and was stretched to breaking point.

0:04:170:04:19

And then, the house of cards that he'd built came crashing down

0:04:190:04:23

when his out-of-control borrowing was finally exposed.

0:04:230:04:28

I received a phone call, from a business associate of Jason's

0:04:280:04:31

who phoned me and said,

0:04:310:04:33

"I want to let you know that Jason's in a lot of trouble -

0:04:330:04:37

"he owes a lot of money to the wrong sort of people."

0:04:370:04:40

I was like, "What are you talking about?"

0:04:400:04:42

I'd had no idea about this at all.

0:04:420:04:44

The Shifrins had a Christmas holiday booked, and with the secret now out in the open,

0:04:440:04:48

decided to use it as a chance to take stock.

0:04:480:04:52

But Nicole still didn't realise just how bad the situation had become.

0:04:520:04:57

When we went away at Christmas 2003, that's when I realised

0:04:570:05:01

that everything was over and I was just panicking,

0:05:010:05:05

I was in a cold sweat, I just didn't know what to do with myself.

0:05:050:05:08

And I'm standing on this balcony, looking down at the swimming pool -

0:05:080:05:12

all I was thinking about was the humiliation,

0:05:120:05:15

and I just felt that the best option now was just to jump.

0:05:150:05:18

Jason managed to overcome his suicidal thoughts,

0:05:180:05:22

but he was still in a desperate situation.

0:05:220:05:25

He owed a lot of money to some very nasty people,

0:05:250:05:28

who were waiting for him back in the UK.

0:05:280:05:31

It was horrendous - people had phoned up the travel agent to find out when I was coming back.

0:05:310:05:37

I had to change my flight because there was going to be people waiting for me at Heathrow Airport.

0:05:370:05:41

By this time my family know, all my friends know,

0:05:410:05:43

it's out there that I'm in a lot of trouble.

0:05:430:05:46

Later, we learn why buying time by causing a potentially lethal pile-up

0:05:460:05:51

was a better option for Jason than a meeting with the loan sharks.

0:05:510:05:56

I decided the best thing I can do is have a crash on the M25.

0:05:560:06:00

Being in debt can cause heartache at the best of times.

0:06:040:06:08

But what's even worse is

0:06:080:06:09

when the company you've borrowed from makes your life a misery.

0:06:090:06:13

No-one knows this better than Jeannette and Frank Sharratt from Blackpool,

0:06:130:06:17

who agreed to a deal they thought would give them financial security.

0:06:170:06:22

Instead, it turned out to be the worst deal they ever made,

0:06:220:06:26

leaving them owing £100,000.

0:06:260:06:28

Jeanette is a full-time carer to Frank

0:06:310:06:34

after a stroke left him confined to the house.

0:06:340:06:36

-I look after you, don't I?

-Oh.

-Oh, I do.

0:06:360:06:40

'I'm very, very angry.'

0:06:400:06:41

I'll never stop being angry till the day I die, because I keep thinking

0:06:410:06:45

not only what they've done to me but what they've done to my poor husband.

0:06:450:06:50

The problems started when Jeannette and Frank decided to make what can often be a very bad deal -

0:06:500:06:56

taking out a loan secured against their home.

0:06:560:06:59

Following an accident at work,

0:06:590:07:01

Frank had to leave his job as a tram driver on Blackpool's seafront.

0:07:010:07:06

Not having Frank's income hit them hard financially,

0:07:060:07:10

so they decided to take out a loan for £2,000

0:07:100:07:12

with a company called London North Securities.

0:07:120:07:15

I swear I didn't borrow this money to do anything posh with

0:07:170:07:21

or have a holiday or a trip, or buy myself a new coat.

0:07:210:07:25

It was basically just for the children, so they could always

0:07:250:07:29

have a good school uniform and they could have school dinners.

0:07:290:07:32

On top of the £2,000 loan,

0:07:320:07:35

London North Securities charged a £450 set-up fee and 40% interest.

0:07:350:07:42

It was a hefty price to pay

0:07:420:07:44

and the Sharratts soon started missing payments.

0:07:440:07:47

And when they did,

0:07:470:07:48

London North Securities added on heavy default charges.

0:07:480:07:52

It didn't take long for them to bump things up

0:07:520:07:54

because they kept adding things on.

0:07:540:07:56

They kept adding more and more and more and more and more on,

0:07:560:07:59

inventing things.

0:07:590:08:01

Unable to meet all the payment demands, the Sharratts started

0:08:020:08:05

receiving threatening phone calls and letters from the company.

0:08:050:08:09

I got 18 phone calls in one day, once,

0:08:090:08:11

and they used to just laugh down the phone.

0:08:110:08:14

I thought, "It's no good me crying and screaming."

0:08:140:08:17

I used to go, "Ha-ha-ha, carry on doing it,

0:08:170:08:20

"I'm here all day, how long have you got?" You know, trying to be brave.

0:08:200:08:23

Desperate to get the company off their backs,

0:08:230:08:26

Jeanette and Frank decided to sell their possessions.

0:08:260:08:30

I'd sold everything I could possibly sell. I mean, I started off with

0:08:300:08:33

this gorgeous, big diamond ring -

0:08:330:08:36

that went, just to pay them extra money.

0:08:360:08:39

Me beautiful wedding band went, it was 22 carat gold, it was the best.

0:08:390:08:43

I had velvet curtains, beautiful velvet curtains, I had beautiful furniture.

0:08:430:08:47

Everything had to go - if it wasn't nailed down, it went.

0:08:470:08:51

The money they raised kept the company at bay - briefly.

0:08:510:08:55

But the monstrous interest rates as part of the deal

0:08:550:08:58

meant they were soon failing to make their payments again.

0:08:580:09:01

In response, London North Securities decided to take the couple

0:09:010:09:04

to court to repossess their home, as the loan had been secured on it.

0:09:040:09:09

They told me to my face in court, "We want that house.

0:09:090:09:12

"There's a charge on it and we're going to get that house,

0:09:120:09:15

"and we want £100,000 off this woman and we want £1,400 a month interest."

0:09:150:09:22

And all that has stemmed from a £2,000 loan

0:09:220:09:26

which they've had ten times over.

0:09:260:09:28

By now, the Sharratts had already paid over £10,000 in repayments

0:09:280:09:32

on the original £2,000 loan, and had nothing left.

0:09:320:09:37

But with legal fees, interest and default charges,

0:09:370:09:40

the company wanted £100,000 - or the family home.

0:09:400:09:45

Everything depended on the judge's decision.

0:09:450:09:48

To their great relief, he wasted no time

0:09:480:09:51

in throwing the case out of court and writing off the rest of the debt.

0:09:510:09:54

All of a sudden he said, "Mrs Sharratt." So I said, "Yes."

0:09:540:10:00

"You can go home now," he said.

0:10:010:10:04

"Don't worry any more, go home now, you're safe."

0:10:040:10:06

He said, "They can't touch your house."

0:10:060:10:08

Honestly, I felt like dancing on air after I'd won.

0:10:080:10:13

But the triumph was short-lived.

0:10:130:10:16

As the couple left the building, to begin their debt-free life,

0:10:160:10:19

Frank had a stroke on the courthouse steps

0:10:190:10:21

which has left him bed-bound and unable to speak.

0:10:210:10:25

Just fell down like that, you see.

0:10:250:10:27

Just must have waited to see me winning and that was it.

0:10:270:10:31

So you see, they've done it to him.

0:10:310:10:33

The Sharratts were not the only people to have had their lives

0:10:330:10:36

ruined by London North Securities.

0:10:360:10:39

After receiving dozens of complaints,

0:10:390:10:41

the Office Of Fair Trading took them to court

0:10:410:10:44

and in 2010 they were found guilty of illegal debt collection.

0:10:440:10:48

'By securing a conviction,'

0:10:480:10:49

this led to the situation in which

0:10:490:10:52

the company was required to pay compensation

0:10:520:10:54

to the people who had been, frankly, ripped off by that company.

0:10:540:10:58

London North Securities were ordered to pay £400,000

0:10:580:11:02

to over 50 customers.

0:11:020:11:04

70 charges that they held on people's houses were also removed.

0:11:040:11:08

The judge who heard the case was highly critical of the company

0:11:080:11:12

and the individuals concerned with it.

0:11:120:11:15

He spoke of the distress that was caused to the consumers

0:11:150:11:20

and he described the company's behaviour as utterly heartless.

0:11:200:11:23

But London North Securities isn't the only company out there

0:11:230:11:27

preying on desperate borrowers like Jeanette and Frank.

0:11:270:11:31

Last year, the OFT shut down nearly 40 companies for unfair practices

0:11:310:11:34

and the number has been steadily growing year on year.

0:11:340:11:38

If you have a poor credit rating and can't borrow from the bank,

0:11:430:11:47

then getting a loan can be tough.

0:11:470:11:49

One solution that's becoming more popular is the logbook loan.

0:11:490:11:53

But it's a deal that many say is the worst they ever made,

0:11:530:11:56

leaving some customers fending off bailiffs

0:11:560:11:59

or even having to pay out for other people's debts.

0:11:590:12:03

It was heartbreaking.

0:12:030:12:04

how can this company do that to somebody who is so vulnerable?

0:12:040:12:10

A logbook loan is a loan secured against your car.

0:12:100:12:14

There are few credit checks because the amount you can borrow

0:12:140:12:17

depends mainly on the vehicle's value.

0:12:170:12:19

It's quick and simple,

0:12:190:12:21

and you can drive away with the cash in just a couple of hours.

0:12:210:12:24

But there are risks.

0:12:240:12:26

The main problems concerned with logbook loans

0:12:260:12:28

are first of all, the sheer affordability factor.

0:12:280:12:31

We're talking about huge rates of interest,

0:12:310:12:33

sometimes 500, 1,000% APR is not untypical.

0:12:330:12:38

Borrow £1,000 and you could end up repaying well over £3,000

0:12:380:12:43

over the life of the loan.

0:12:430:12:45

And there's an even bigger catch. When you take out the loan,

0:12:450:12:49

you have to sign a credit agreement known as a bill of sale,

0:12:490:12:52

and hand over the vehicle registration certificate,

0:12:520:12:55

the logbook, so the company now own your car.

0:12:550:12:58

The minute you sign your name on that agreement,

0:12:590:13:02

you're effectively handing the keys to that lender.

0:13:020:13:04

The minute you default, the car becomes theirs.

0:13:040:13:07

That's what happened to Sarah Dudley, after she took out a loan

0:13:070:13:12

with a company called Nine Regions, also known as Logbook Loans.

0:13:120:13:15

Sarah has a degenerative spinal disease

0:13:180:13:20

and relies heavily on her car to get to the shops and the hospital.

0:13:200:13:24

When the car needed an MOT and service to keep it on the road,

0:13:240:13:27

Sarah found she didn't have enough money to pay for it.

0:13:270:13:32

Obviously, I'm disabled, I can't work

0:13:320:13:37

and I had no other option but to get a logbook loan.

0:13:370:13:41

Sarah borrowed £1,000.

0:13:410:13:45

She was due to pay back £167 a month over 18 months - a total of £3,000.

0:13:450:13:51

At first, everything was fine

0:13:510:13:54

but when her health took a turn for the worse

0:13:540:13:57

and she was admitted to hospital, she missed a couple of repayments.

0:13:570:14:01

When I was moved back onto a normal ward,

0:14:010:14:03

I did phone Nine Regions and I explained to them my situation -

0:14:030:14:08

I'm in hospital at the moment, I'm very, very poorly,

0:14:080:14:14

and as soon as I get out of hospital,

0:14:140:14:17

I will be able to sort out and make a payment.

0:14:170:14:20

The company told Sarah not to worry, they could work out a payment plan.

0:14:200:14:26

But a few days later, when she'd just been discharged from hospital,

0:14:260:14:29

she received some unexpected visitors.

0:14:290:14:32

'I wasn't very well that weekend. I was in a lot of pain.'

0:14:320:14:36

I'd actually got off to sleep for about two hours,

0:14:360:14:40

and then my carer shouted out,

0:14:400:14:44

"Somebody's trying to steal your car."

0:14:440:14:46

I went out and there was two gentlemen stood there,

0:14:470:14:52

dressed in black, they were trying to clamp my car, in a disabled bay.

0:14:520:14:58

It's 5am in the morning, it's still dark. It's Sunday.

0:14:580:15:02

It was absolutely terrifying.

0:15:020:15:06

The men told Sarah they were from Logbook Loans

0:15:060:15:08

and they were there to repossess her car.

0:15:080:15:11

They drove my car out and away. I was just lost for words.

0:15:110:15:16

I felt like...my world had ended,

0:15:160:15:21

because without my vehicle, what am I to do?

0:15:210:15:26

The problem Sarah was facing was that the company was

0:15:260:15:29

legally entitled to take her car without warning,

0:15:290:15:32

and there was nothing she could do about it.

0:15:320:15:34

That's because logbook loans

0:15:340:15:37

are not covered by the same laws as other forms of credit.

0:15:370:15:40

Logbook loans are regulated by

0:15:400:15:42

something called the Bills Of Sales Act, that goes back as far as 1878.

0:15:420:15:48

So 140 years ago, ship captains who wanted to borrow money,

0:15:480:15:53

and they would use their vessels as security for that money.

0:15:530:15:56

But these people who were taking out these loans

0:15:560:16:00

would go to a series of different lenders,

0:16:000:16:02

so this act was brought into account

0:16:020:16:04

to protect the lenders from any fraud that was taking place.

0:16:040:16:08

But because the legislation was designed to benefit lenders

0:16:080:16:11

and not consumers, it doesn't contain any of the protections

0:16:110:16:15

provided by modern consumer law.

0:16:150:16:17

Lenders can always take their vehicle back at any point

0:16:170:16:20

if the consumer is in breach of their obligations -

0:16:200:16:23

ie, they don't pay - and that's one of the real worries for us.

0:16:230:16:26

In consumer credit legislation, hire purchase legislation,

0:16:260:16:29

there are safeguards built in to protect the consumer.

0:16:290:16:32

That's the sort of protection we'd like to see in bills of sales legislation -

0:16:320:16:36

it's not there now and it needs to be.

0:16:360:16:38

Sarah ended up having to fight the case in court

0:16:380:16:41

but she did eventually get her car back.

0:16:410:16:44

And last year, Logbook Loans and its parent company, Nine Regions,

0:16:440:16:48

had its Consumer Credit Licence revoked by the OFT

0:16:480:16:51

for deliberately deceiving customers.

0:16:510:16:54

The company has appealed and is still allowed to trade

0:16:540:16:57

while a final decision is reached.

0:16:570:17:00

I would say that after the experience that I've had,

0:17:000:17:03

don't ever get a logbook loan, don't ever, ever get one.

0:17:030:17:07

Because you will be left heartbroken.

0:17:070:17:10

You will be left with nightmares.

0:17:100:17:12

Coming up, the threats of violence to loan shark victim Jason Shifrin

0:17:120:17:17

become terrifyingly real.

0:17:170:17:20

They had a pickaxe

0:17:200:17:22

and they smashed about four of the windows in on my wife's car.

0:17:220:17:26

Owing money can be extremely stressful, and most people

0:17:330:17:36

will do whatever it takes to clear their debts as quickly as possible.

0:17:360:17:40

But there are criminals out to take advantage of that determination,

0:17:400:17:44

offering you a deal to erase your debts entirely,

0:17:440:17:48

charging you an upfront fee for the service, and then doing nothing.

0:17:480:17:52

It's a scam known as advance fee fraud

0:17:520:17:55

and for many, it's the worst deal they ever made.

0:17:550:17:58

The Government introduced a new scheme that enables you to eliminate

0:17:580:18:02

100% of your debt within 12 months.

0:18:020:18:04

To see if you qualify, press 2 on your phone now.

0:18:040:18:07

'It completely gutted me, to be quite honest.'

0:18:070:18:10

I was just...in a complete state of shock.

0:18:100:18:15

They promised a lot and in return they never gave nothing back.

0:18:150:18:19

Barrie Cresswell was a successful businessman from Surrey.

0:18:190:18:24

He had two construction companies, lived a comfortable lifestyle,

0:18:240:18:28

and even owned his own boat.

0:18:280:18:31

But in 2008, his main company fell into difficulties.

0:18:310:18:35

In the good days, obviously, there's plenty of work about and people have extensions built.

0:18:350:18:40

Of course, as the recession bites our work falls by the wayside.

0:18:400:18:45

With the bills mounting and the situation looking precarious,

0:18:450:18:49

Barrie took the risky decision to start paying for company expenses

0:18:490:18:52

on his personal credit cards.

0:18:520:18:56

Things got so bad at the end of 2008,

0:18:560:18:59

we couldn't find the cash to pay some of the wages

0:18:590:19:03

and I had to go around the banks with various credit cards,

0:19:030:19:07

drawing money out of the cash points to get enough to clear the wages.

0:19:070:19:14

Barrie ended up taking on about £15,000-worth of company debt.

0:19:140:19:20

But it wasn't enough, and in 2009 his main company went bust.

0:19:200:19:25

It was at that point

0:19:250:19:27

that I couldn't continue paying and everything went pear shaped.

0:19:270:19:32

Barrie and his wife found themselves drowning in debt,

0:19:340:19:37

which had by now risen to over £90,000,

0:19:370:19:41

and they had no way to pay it off.

0:19:410:19:43

But then, out of the blue,

0:19:430:19:46

Barrie was thrown what seemed to be a lifeline.

0:19:460:19:49

I received a call from a company offering to challenge

0:19:490:19:54

any credit card debts or personal loan agreements that I'd got,

0:19:540:20:00

and saying that they were working on a government initiative.

0:20:000:20:03

The company said that thanks to a legal loophole,

0:20:030:20:06

Barrie's credit card agreements were invalid

0:20:060:20:09

and all his debts could be written off.

0:20:090:20:11

I wasn't convinced that it was true, exactly,

0:20:110:20:14

but stranger things happen and as I say, I was desperate.

0:20:140:20:18

Barrie decided to go ahead and paid the company £1,700

0:20:180:20:24

to put the process of erasing his debts into action.

0:20:240:20:28

I was hopeful that it was going to work

0:20:280:20:31

because it was really the only light I had at the end of the tunnel.

0:20:310:20:36

The same company also said they could help Kal Chandla,

0:20:370:20:41

from Stoke-on-Trent.

0:20:410:20:43

He runs a family grocery store and like Barrie,

0:20:430:20:46

had got into financial difficulties over several years.

0:20:460:20:50

Three years ago a new shop opened, so that affected us big style,

0:20:500:20:54

'because a lot of our customers used to come from

0:20:540:20:57

'where the new shop's situated.

0:20:570:20:59

'And so we were down quite a few hundred pounds a day,'

0:20:590:21:01

and obviously the recession came along, that made things a lot harder.

0:21:010:21:06

With Kal only just managing to make the minimum payments on his debts,

0:21:060:21:10

they soon mounted up to £30,000.

0:21:100:21:14

On numerous occasions,

0:21:140:21:16

I started missing out on paying the minimum payment.

0:21:160:21:19

'With no payments you get penalised for late payment charges and default charges,'

0:21:190:21:24

so basically your debt's increasing rather than decreasing.

0:21:240:21:28

Desperate to get his family back on track, Kal searched online

0:21:280:21:32

and came across a company that seemed to be the answer to his prayers.

0:21:320:21:36

Like Barrie, Kal was told that a legal loophole meant his credit card debts

0:21:360:21:41

could be written off, thanks to a flaw in the terms and conditions.

0:21:410:21:45

I thought at the time, I've got a good chance of getting out of debt.

0:21:450:21:49

I thought, "If there's more money I have to give out,

0:21:490:21:53

which wasn't a problem, hopefully long term, I'd be out of the debt."

0:21:530:21:58

Kal agreed to pay the company £1,100, filled in the paperwork,

0:21:580:22:02

and sat back to wait for the results.

0:22:020:22:04

Barrie and Kal both heard back from the company and were told

0:22:060:22:09

they would be sent a series of letters to forward on to their creditors.

0:22:090:22:13

When they received replies from those creditors,

0:22:130:22:16

they were instructed to send them back to the company.

0:22:160:22:19

I sent out the letters that they sent to me,

0:22:190:22:22

sent the responses back to them, waited, heard nothing, so I chased them.

0:22:220:22:27

They sent out the other letters, I sent the responses back to them,

0:22:270:22:32

heard nothing, and this went on for in excess of six months.

0:22:320:22:37

After between three and six months I started getting a bit concerned,

0:22:370:22:42

knowing that nothing's been done, the debt's still there.

0:22:420:22:46

With the case dragging on for months and months with no results,

0:22:460:22:49

Barrie started to get suspicious.

0:22:490:22:52

At one point I got so frustrated, I sent them a really stroppy e-mail

0:22:520:22:58

saying, "You told me you would sort this out.

0:22:580:23:02

"Either you are a genuine company and you're going to help me

0:23:020:23:06

"or you're a bunch of shysters."

0:23:060:23:08

And the next thing I knew was

0:23:080:23:11

I was contacted by the Trading Standards people.

0:23:110:23:16

We became aware of the scam

0:23:180:23:19

around 2009, when we started to receive a number of complaints,

0:23:190:23:23

and that was when we decided to investigate.

0:23:230:23:26

We found a variety of people getting sucked in by this scam.

0:23:260:23:29

Because they've been in debt, possibly for a long time,

0:23:290:23:32

they don't see any way out of this debt

0:23:320:23:34

and when a company offers something that seems too good to be true,

0:23:340:23:38

unfortunately some of these people do still go along with that.

0:23:380:23:42

I felt I was being conned. It was a devastating blow,

0:23:420:23:45

and I, myself...everything just went boom, downhill.

0:23:450:23:50

It's a fairly standard advance fee fraud,

0:23:500:23:53

where you're asked to pay some money up front to receive a service

0:23:530:23:57

and then that service never happens.

0:23:570:23:59

In fact, the scam is so common

0:23:590:24:02

that it wasn't long before Kal Chandla was called again.

0:24:020:24:05

I actually had another company ring me called Buy Bye Credit,

0:24:050:24:09

they actually came to my house, and I thought,

0:24:090:24:14

"If they're actually coming to see me face-to-face maybe they are genuine."

0:24:140:24:18

After talking things through, Kal was convinced

0:24:180:24:22

and agreed to pay Buy Bye Credit £900 to eliminate his debt.

0:24:220:24:27

But as with the first company,

0:24:270:24:29

once he'd paid his money, all contact ceased.

0:24:290:24:33

I was a lot more concerned now than I was before.

0:24:330:24:36

I was getting depressed, thinking I've been done again, second time around.

0:24:360:24:41

Buy Bye Credit's website no longer exists

0:24:410:24:44

and they haven't filed any company accounts for over two-and-a-half years.

0:24:440:24:48

Kal is unlikely to be getting his money back.

0:24:480:24:52

There are no actual legal loopholes for people to completely wipe off their debts.

0:24:520:24:56

People have to go down the proper route,

0:24:560:24:58

by filing for bankruptcy, there are things like debt relief orders,

0:24:580:25:02

but these have to be applied for through a court.

0:25:020:25:04

However, they can get free advice before doing anything

0:25:040:25:07

from Citizens Advice Bureaus or the National Debtline.

0:25:070:25:10

Barry has done just that.

0:25:100:25:12

He's now signed up with National Debtline, who are helping him

0:25:120:25:15

to make repayment agreements with his creditors.

0:25:150:25:19

At present rate of repayments, it's going to take me 77 years

0:25:190:25:23

to pay off credit cards and personal loans.

0:25:230:25:27

The company that Barrie and Kal dealt with originally

0:25:270:25:30

can't be named while Suffolk Trading Standards are investigating them.

0:25:300:25:34

We know that at least 4,000 people have been taken in by this scam,

0:25:340:25:38

it may be more, and these people were paying

0:25:380:25:42

anything from £100 up to £1,000 to have their debts wiped out.

0:25:420:25:45

So it's easy to see the scale of this operation

0:25:450:25:48

and just how much money these people were potentially making.

0:25:480:25:51

I obviously should have learnt from my first experience,

0:25:510:25:55

with me being the person I am, quite gullible and naive.

0:25:550:26:01

This time it really knocked me out.

0:26:010:26:03

I've never known an experience like that,

0:26:030:26:05

whereby I've been hit not just once but twice.

0:26:050:26:10

If somebody rang me up and said they'd had a call

0:26:100:26:12

from a company like that, I'd say, "Ignore it."

0:26:120:26:14

If it could be done, it would be on the national news.

0:26:140:26:18

It must be a con, it must be a con.

0:26:180:26:22

Logbook loans are big business in the UK.

0:26:280:26:31

In 2010 the market was estimated to be worth almost £40 million.

0:26:310:26:36

But as their popularity increases,

0:26:360:26:39

so does the number of people getting into trouble, like Sarah Dudley,

0:26:390:26:43

whose car was repossessed after she fell into arrears.

0:26:430:26:47

It was heartbreaking.

0:26:470:26:48

How can this company do that to somebody who is so vulnerable?

0:26:480:26:54

Registered debt counsellor Mike Thomas, a former policeman,

0:26:540:26:58

now runs a website giving free advice to people with money worries.

0:26:580:27:02

He fights for the consumer rights of people who've taken up deals

0:27:020:27:06

they now regret.

0:27:060:27:07

He's hearing more and more horror stories about logbook loans

0:27:070:27:11

and wants to find out exactly what's going on.

0:27:110:27:14

I'm actually quite concerned about these loans.

0:27:140:27:17

Are consumers being made aware of what happens

0:27:170:27:20

when you go into arrears, for example?

0:27:200:27:22

Are they aware of the default charges?

0:27:220:27:24

They can add nearly £100 a month in phone calls and letter charges.

0:27:240:27:28

Are they aware the vehicle can be repossessed without a court order?

0:27:280:27:31

And as the company own your car for the duration of the loan,

0:27:310:27:35

should you fall behind with payments you could lose your vehicle.

0:27:350:27:40

Mike wants to find out why logbook loans are causing so many problems.

0:27:400:27:45

Are customers being given the right information?

0:27:450:27:47

How easy is it to get approved?

0:27:470:27:49

And just how expensive is it to borrow against your car?

0:27:490:27:53

What I'm going to do now is contact three logbook loan companies

0:27:530:27:57

and try to replicate the experience that consumer goes through.

0:27:570:28:01

Don't know much about it,

0:28:010:28:03

put logbook loan in the internet and see what comes up.

0:28:030:28:06

The idea is I'll take my car along and go and see three of them

0:28:060:28:09

and see if they do a good job or not.

0:28:090:28:11

Morning, I'm just interested in taking a loan out against my car.

0:28:120:28:17

I just wondered what the procedure is, what I need to do with you guys.

0:28:170:28:20

Mike gives some details over the phone

0:28:200:28:23

and makes appointments with three national logbook lenders.

0:28:230:28:26

They each arrange to meet him in the local town centre

0:28:260:28:30

where an agent will check over the car and look at his documents.

0:28:300:28:34

Once approved, if Mike actually wanted to take out a loan,

0:28:340:28:37

he'd be able to drive away with the money.

0:28:370:28:40

Thanks, bye.

0:28:400:28:42

The first company he's going to see is Logbook Loans,

0:28:440:28:48

who Sarah Dudley dealt with.

0:28:480:28:50

On the phone they told Mike that to borrow £20,00 over 18 months

0:28:500:28:54

his total repayments would be over £5,500.

0:28:540:28:59

But at the meeting they tell him that if he wants,

0:28:590:29:02

he can borrow even more.

0:29:020:29:03

I've been to see the guy.

0:29:030:29:04

He did say that he could offer me just over £7,000 on the car

0:29:040:29:08

but the worry was the repayments over 18 months was 20,000.

0:29:080:29:13

I had to push him to get quite a bit of information out of him,

0:29:130:29:16

particularly about the repossession.

0:29:160:29:19

He didn't tell me that they could actually come and take my car

0:29:190:29:22

without a court order.

0:29:220:29:24

So he wasn't clear on that, I actually had to push him.

0:29:240:29:26

The second company Mike's going to see is V5 Loans.

0:29:260:29:31

The thing that comes to mind is

0:29:310:29:33

how simple it is to get a loan against your car.

0:29:330:29:36

But there's no credit check on you. It's just too easy.

0:29:360:29:39

At the meeting, V5 Loans tell Mike that to borrow

0:29:390:29:43

£2,000 for 18 months, his total repayments would be over £5,800.

0:29:430:29:50

That's the second meeting done. I do have some concerns.

0:29:500:29:53

One is that the paperwork that I was given,

0:29:530:29:57

there's ten pages and it's pretty small print.

0:29:570:30:01

I felt intimidated and under pressure that if I was to do the deal there and then,

0:30:010:30:04

I've got to go through all these pages and sign.

0:30:040:30:06

Not many people will read it word for word

0:30:060:30:08

when there's someone over the table looking at you.

0:30:080:30:11

But it's too easy. It's easy to get money

0:30:110:30:13

and I think the logbook loan companies aren't checking

0:30:130:30:16

whether consumers can actually afford to pay the loans.

0:30:160:30:18

No wonder people get into trouble weeks later and they can't afford it,

0:30:180:30:22

because they couldn't afford it in the first place.

0:30:220:30:24

The third company Mike's going to visit is Mobile Money.

0:30:240:30:28

They've told him that if he borrows £2,000 for 18 months,

0:30:280:30:31

his total repayments will be £5,990.

0:30:310:30:36

When I first got in there - it's not private,

0:30:360:30:38

there was another client just round the corner, completely open,

0:30:380:30:42

and he took on a 24-month programme at £258 a month.

0:30:420:30:46

I heard everything. When I finally got in to sit in front of this chap,

0:30:460:30:50

he didn't tell me about the additional charges, that when you are in arrears, the £12 a letter.

0:30:500:30:54

He doesn't want a great deal of evidence about my income.

0:30:540:30:58

I could have easily walked out of there within 15-20 minutes with cash,

0:30:580:31:03

because I heard him counting out the cash for the guy before.

0:31:030:31:07

Again, it just proves it's so easy to get a logbook loan.

0:31:070:31:10

Clearly, we can see that the odds are stacked in their favour.

0:31:100:31:13

If you default, they've got the car.

0:31:130:31:15

If you don't default, they've got the interest.

0:31:150:31:17

It's a good product for them, it's bad news for consumers

0:31:170:31:20

and that's why we urge consumers to find another way.

0:31:200:31:23

Dealing with logbook loans as a solution to getting out of debt

0:31:230:31:27

is not a sustainable strategy.

0:31:270:31:29

We asked all three companies to comment.

0:31:290:31:32

Only Mobile Money responded. They said...

0:31:320:31:34

From what Mike's seen, there's no doubt that

0:31:590:32:01

logbook loans are both extremely expensive and easy to get.

0:32:010:32:06

Of the three logbook loans companies we visited,

0:32:060:32:09

all wanted to charge Mike over 400% APR.

0:32:090:32:12

But it's not just the high cost that's a problem.

0:32:140:32:16

Some people are finding they're getting into trouble with logbook loans

0:32:160:32:20

without even taking one out.

0:32:200:32:21

I couldn't believe this was happening.

0:32:210:32:23

In the back of my mind I kept thinking, "This is wrong,

0:32:230:32:26

"and I'll get my bike back, everything will be all right."

0:32:260:32:29

The logbook loan business is booming.

0:32:330:32:36

Between 2006 and 2009, the numbers of people taking one out

0:32:360:32:41

increased by nearly 40%, to 38,000.

0:32:410:32:46

That's 38,000 vehicles on the road with a loan secured against them.

0:32:460:32:51

A logbook loan means they're owned by the loan company, not the driver.

0:32:510:32:56

So, if you bought your vehicle second hand,

0:32:560:32:58

you could be in for a nasty shock,

0:32:580:33:00

as happened to Oliver Martin from north London.

0:33:000:33:04

For him, buying a second-hand motorbike from a private seller

0:33:040:33:08

for £6,000 turned out to be his worst deal.

0:33:080:33:12

It's an amazing bike, it's fantastic,

0:33:120:33:16

it's one of the top bikes, I would say.

0:33:160:33:18

But early one morning, Olly got a wake-up call from the bailiffs.

0:33:180:33:24

I was asleep.

0:33:240:33:25

Around 6:30 in the morning the doorbell was ringing continuously.

0:33:250:33:30

I woke up, I thought it must be some emergency or something.

0:33:300:33:34

Went to the door half asleep, and there were two guys out there

0:33:360:33:41

saying they were bailiffs and they had come to repossess my bike.

0:33:410:33:45

I asked them what they were talking about

0:33:450:33:48

because I bought my bike for cash, so there was no finance on the bike.

0:33:480:33:53

But a previous owner had taken out a logbook loan for £4,000

0:33:530:33:58

and then not paid it back.

0:33:580:34:01

He sold the bike on,

0:34:010:34:03

and it changed hands several times before Olly then bought it.

0:34:030:34:07

He had no idea that there was a loan taken out against it,

0:34:070:34:10

but the bailiffs wheeled the bike away.

0:34:100:34:13

I couldn't believe this was happening

0:34:130:34:15

but in the back of my mind I kept thinking, "This is wrong,

0:34:150:34:18

"and I'll get my bike back, everything will be all right."

0:34:180:34:21

The original owner had carried out a clever con,

0:34:210:34:25

taking out a logbook loan, then selling the bike on quickly,

0:34:250:34:28

knowing the loan company would go after the vehicle and not the borrower.

0:34:280:34:33

Now Olly was left without the bike he'd paid £6,000 for.

0:34:330:34:37

He was shocked, because he'd done a finance check before buying it

0:34:370:34:40

and the results had been clear.

0:34:400:34:43

I called the police and I said exactly what happened -

0:34:430:34:46

bailiffs came to take the bike, and I wasn't going to let them take it.

0:34:460:34:50

The police advised me that if I didn't let them take the bike,

0:34:500:34:53

they'd come and arrest me for breach of the peace.

0:34:530:34:57

The company was allowed to repossess the bike

0:34:570:34:59

because under the terms of the original loan agreement

0:34:590:35:03

with the previous owner, it belonged to them.

0:35:030:35:06

And although the industry has a new code of conduct

0:35:060:35:09

which suggests lenders register agreements on a central database,

0:35:090:35:13

it's not a legal requirement.

0:35:130:35:15

It means that when you do the usual checks before buying a vehicle,

0:35:160:35:19

any logbook loan may not show up.

0:35:190:35:22

One of the things that the code of practice does is urges lenders

0:35:220:35:26

to make a record, so we'll start to see different loans recorded against different vehicles.

0:35:260:35:31

But that's not been in place before, so there is a lot of vehicles with bills of sales attached to them

0:35:310:35:37

where we have no way of finding out whether these bills of sales are in place or not.

0:35:370:35:41

It's a problem many used vehicle buyers are falling foul of.

0:35:410:35:46

We get calls from people saying, "There's a bailiff on my doorstep,

0:35:460:35:50

"he thinks this car's his but I've had no dealings with this company at all."

0:35:500:35:54

When we explore and they explain the fact there's a bill of sale linked to that vehicle,

0:35:540:36:00

then it becomes very clear they haven't got much of a leg to stand on.

0:36:000:36:04

The practical steps are to negotiate with the finance company

0:36:040:36:07

to almost buy back the vehicle which they already own.

0:36:070:36:10

So Olly started a painful battle to get his bike back from the loan company.

0:36:100:36:16

To get my bike back was an absolute nightmare.

0:36:160:36:19

The loans company demanded £4,000 for my own bike back,

0:36:190:36:26

which I had already paid £6,500 for.

0:36:260:36:30

Obviously I refused, because this is my bike,

0:36:300:36:33

why would I buy my own bike back?

0:36:330:36:35

It took five months of legal wrangling, and in the end

0:36:350:36:41

my solicitor suggested I make an offer of, I think £500.

0:36:410:36:46

The lender accepted Olly's offer and gave back the bike,

0:36:460:36:50

saving him from an expensive court hearing.

0:36:500:36:53

But while the Bills Of Sale Act remains in place,

0:36:530:36:56

other buyers may not be so lucky.

0:36:560:36:59

For us, logbook loans, bills of sale are a 19th century product

0:36:590:37:02

that should stay in the 19th century.

0:37:020:37:05

We've been calling for government to abolish this particular product -

0:37:050:37:09

it's outdated, it's unfair, it's out of touch with modern day society

0:37:090:37:14

and it's time it was banned.

0:37:140:37:16

Jason Shifrin owed millions of pounds to loan sharks.

0:37:190:37:24

For a couple of years, he'd been borrowing from one

0:37:240:37:26

to pay off another, until it finally got to the point

0:37:260:37:29

where he had to admit he couldn't pay them back.

0:37:290:37:32

But this wasn't like telling the bank you can't repay your overdraft.

0:37:320:37:35

They're not the type of people that give you a second chance.

0:37:350:37:39

If you're paying them money every month without a problem, they're great.

0:37:390:37:43

If you say, "I've got a problem," they're not interested.

0:37:430:37:46

They're interested in getting their money back.

0:37:460:37:49

If they don't get their money back, they hurt you.

0:37:490:37:51

I really didn't know what would have happened.

0:37:510:37:54

Someone could have shot him or us,

0:37:540:37:55

someone could have taken my children.

0:37:550:37:57

Anything in your wildest nightmares could have happened.

0:37:570:38:01

So the Shifrins sold their house and went into hiding.

0:38:020:38:06

Nobody knew where we lived,

0:38:060:38:08

even my closest friends didn't know where we lived,

0:38:080:38:11

and any time we had to walk out the front door,

0:38:110:38:14

it was a case of put a big coat on, hood up, keep your head down

0:38:140:38:19

and just don't make eye contact with anyone.

0:38:190:38:22

But Jason was determined to pay the money back

0:38:220:38:25

so his family could live a normal life.

0:38:250:38:28

To help him, his parents sold their house

0:38:280:38:31

and cashed in their life savings.

0:38:310:38:33

But it wasn't nearly enough money, and now they were involved, too.

0:38:330:38:38

One day my dad was driving home from his factory

0:38:380:38:41

and as he pulled onto his drive, three hooded men approached him

0:38:410:38:45

and they said, "You need to come with us."

0:38:450:38:48

The men grabbed Jason's dad and started taping up his arms and legs.

0:38:480:38:52

He ended up getting badly hurt,

0:38:520:38:54

because he was being thrown around on the floor and all sorts of things

0:38:540:38:58

whilst they were trying to tape him up.

0:38:580:39:00

Jason's mum called 999 and managed to scare the attackers off.

0:39:000:39:05

That was by far the worst thing that's ever happened in my life

0:39:050:39:10

and the most despicable.

0:39:100:39:13

Not only have I ruined their life, not only have I taken their wealth,

0:39:130:39:17

then you have to live with the guilt

0:39:170:39:19

of knowing that your father has been hurt because of your actions.

0:39:190:39:25

The Shifrins were subjected to a campaign of fear and intimidation by the loan sharks.

0:39:250:39:31

To protect himself and his family, Jason had a state-of-the-art

0:39:310:39:35

multi-camera CCTV system installed at his house.

0:39:350:39:39

Now he was actually able to catch the loan sharks on camera.

0:39:390:39:43

Some people that I owed money to, they walked onto the drive

0:39:430:39:47

and they had a pickaxe,

0:39:470:39:49

and they smashed about four of the windows in on my wife's car.

0:39:490:39:55

Jason was still making what payments he could,

0:39:550:39:58

but he owed so much to so many people that it was never enough.

0:39:580:40:03

He was getting more and more desperate.

0:40:030:40:05

I had to go to a meeting with some people that I owed money to

0:40:050:40:09

and I knew if I turned up at the meeting I would get hurt, at best.

0:40:090:40:16

'So I'm trying to think of a way of delaying the meeting,'

0:40:160:40:19

and I decided the best thing I can do is have a crash on the M25.

0:40:190:40:24

So I drove into the back of a lorry.

0:40:250:40:28

I waited for the traffic to slow down and I pretended I misjudged the brake

0:40:280:40:34

and I slammed straight into the back of a juggernaut.

0:40:340:40:38

Jason's car span out of control and ended up on its side in a ditch.

0:40:440:40:49

Someone called an ambulance.

0:40:490:40:51

I had about four or five phones in the car at the time

0:40:510:40:54

and they were all just ringing constantly.

0:40:540:40:56

I said, "Will you answer it and tell them that I've been in an accident."

0:40:560:41:00

Obviously she didn't have a clue who she was talking to

0:41:000:41:04

and she told them that, and it got me the time I needed.

0:41:040:41:07

To Jason, at the time,

0:41:070:41:10

deliberately crashing his car seemed like the only thing he could do.

0:41:100:41:14

Sometimes to survive to the end of the week means

0:41:140:41:17

you have to smash into the back of a lorry on the M25.

0:41:170:41:21

That seems the most irrational thing you could ever possibly say,

0:41:210:41:24

but I'm walking into the lions' den.

0:41:240:41:28

I'm walking into a meeting where there are killers sitting there.

0:41:280:41:32

Many times, Jason considered telling the police about what was going on.

0:41:320:41:36

But although he had been in contact with them several times

0:41:360:41:40

throughout his ordeal, he was too terrified

0:41:400:41:43

to reveal the full story, in case the loan sharks found out.

0:41:430:41:46

Making a formal statement simply wasn't an option.

0:41:460:41:50

The police said they could help me if I'd provide them with information,

0:41:500:41:55

and they'd effectively put me into protective custody.

0:41:550:41:59

But why would I want to live the rest of my life as David Jones,

0:41:590:42:03

living in some remote part of the country?

0:42:030:42:06

That's not living. I might as well have been dead.

0:42:060:42:09

Without help from the authorities,

0:42:100:42:12

it was up to Jason to deal with the problems by himself.

0:42:120:42:16

So far it's taken him nearly a decade,

0:42:160:42:19

and he still has debts hanging over him.

0:42:190:42:23

I still currently owe the best part of £500,000.

0:42:230:42:26

Some of that money is owed to gangsters/money lenders,

0:42:260:42:30

and some is owed to family and friends,

0:42:300:42:33

and I'm working hard to try and pay them back.

0:42:330:42:37

Even though the size of Jason's debt is unimaginable to most people,

0:42:370:42:41

the trauma he went through is a common experience

0:42:410:42:45

for anyone who borrows from loan sharks.

0:42:450:42:47

People have got in touch with me and said, "We feel really relieved

0:42:470:42:53

"because we only owe £2,000 and you owe all this money."

0:42:530:42:57

But the difference between them and me is noughts.

0:42:570:43:00

So if you're in debt of £100 or £1 million, you feel the same pressure.

0:43:000:43:06

Debt is debt and it's horrible. Horrible.

0:43:060:43:09

Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd

0:43:220:43:25

Download Subtitles

SRT

ASS