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-GLORIA: -There's a lot we don't know about the food on our plates. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
And the shops and the labels don't always tell you the whole story. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:10 | |
I think they encourage you to buy more than you need, | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
and that causes a lot of waste. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
-ANGELA: -Whether you're staying in or going out, you've told us you can | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
feel ripped off by the promises made | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
for what you eat - and what you pay for it. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
How do you know that it's half-price? | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
So what they've done, they've bumped the price up | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
and they've knocked it down. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
JULIA: From claims that don't stack up | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
to the secrets behind the packaging, | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
we'll uncover the truth about Britain's food, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
so you can be sure you're getting what you expect at the right price. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
Your food. Your money. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
This is Rip-Off Britain. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
Hello and welcome to Rip-Off Britain, | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
and our special series about food, | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
which, today, is all about making sure | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
that the things that we eat don't do any of us any harm, | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
whether that's through a dangerous allergic reaction, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
a nasty case of food poisoning, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
or even some sort of long-term health problem | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
caused by our food or diet. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
Because, much as we love good food, when it's bad, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
oh, it really can cause serious problems, | 0:01:16 | 0:01:17 | |
and how often have we heard that? | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
Which is why it's very reassuring that there are so many people | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
and organisations working really hard to keep us safe and healthy, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
and why, today, we'll be taking an exclusive look | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
at some of the vital work that they do on our behalf, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
whether it's the authorities on patrol | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
to stop food that could make us ill | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
getting to any shops or restaurants, or indeed the food companies | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
themselves changing what they make so that it's better for all of us. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
Of course, when this kind of work is done properly, you might not | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
even realise it's happening, and you shouldn't have to think twice | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
about whether the food you buy is safe to eat. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
Even so, quite a few of you have written to us | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
with concerns about what you're eating, so we're going to be | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
answering some of those questions. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
We've take a sneak peek behind some normally closed doors | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
to find out just how the food industry keeps us safe. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
Coming up - the new laws that mean every restaurant | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
and takeaway has to know which of their ingredients could cause | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
a deadly allergic reaction. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
So are they getting it right? | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
It's very worrying, because we're the last link | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
in the chain before that food goes to the customer. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
So, obviously, we've got to be more aware | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
than anybody else of what's in that dish. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
And with all that salt added to our foods, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
you've asked why it can't simply be taken out of the recipes. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
Well, we find out as one Rip-Off viewer follows these | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
sausages on their journey to a healthier taste. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
I don't think you have to compromise on taste | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
by reducing salt in food. I think you can have both. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
We've often talked on this programme about how important it is | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
to know exactly what is in the food that we buy, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
whether it's from a shop or being served to us in a restaurant. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
But if you're one of the million people in the UK | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
with a serious food allergy, then knowing EXACTLY what is in your food | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
really does take on a whole new level of importance. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
So a new set of laws to make sure that EVERYONE selling food | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
has to tell customers | 0:03:13 | 0:03:14 | |
if it contains any allergen at all is undoubtedly a good thing. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
But then, with so many products coming from | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
so many different suppliers, keeping on top of what's in food, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:25 | |
for many retailers, is no easy task. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
For Britain's growing number of allergy sufferers | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
and their families, it can be bad enough trying to | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
get your head around what's listed in the ingredients. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
But working out what's safe to eat gets harder still | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
when so much of our food, such as takeaways and meals out, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
doesn't come with a label. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
Penelope Rigg from Brighouse in West Yorkshire is allergic to soya, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
and when she's been buying food or eating out, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
she's often found it tricky to get the information | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
she needs to avoid a serious allergic reaction. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
The first time it happened was absolutely horrific. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
I was sure I was going to die. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
My mouth was full of tongue | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
and I couldn't breathe and I was shaking. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
Penelope contacted us, concerned about how difficult it is | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
for anyone who, like her, has allergies, to work out which foods | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
might contain ingredients that could cause a problem. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:26 | |
I think it would be absolutely wonderful | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
if, when you went into a pub or a restaurant, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
the people who served you knew what the ingredients were | 0:04:32 | 0:04:37 | |
in the things that they were serving you. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
There must be other people in the universe that are allergic to soya. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:45 | |
I can't be the only one! | 0:04:45 | 0:04:46 | |
Well, exactly what Penelope had hoped for has now become law. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
New rules have been brought in to make it easier to find out | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
what's inside the food you're eating, | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
whether you're allergic to soya, nuts, gluten | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
or any one of the 14 most common allergens. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
From December 2014, anyone selling food, from canteens to churches, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:08 | |
is legally required to know whether their dishes | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
contain ingredients that might spark an allergic reaction. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
And if any do, they have to be able to tell any customers who ask. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
Repeated failure to do so could mean up to £5,000 in fines. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:23 | |
Now, for supermarkets and big chains who have larger resources, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
that should be relatively straightforward, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
and indeed, when we did some spot checks in a number of restaurant | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
chains, staff did correctly pass on all the necessary information. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:37 | |
But will it be so easy for smaller businesses, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
who also now need to be 100% certain of every ingredient they buy? | 0:05:40 | 0:05:45 | |
I've come to a fast-food outlet at Stokesley in North Yorkshire, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:50 | |
just to see how it's going to work in practice. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
Janet Bowes and her husband Stuart have been running takeaways, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
including this fish and chip shop, for more than 20 years. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
-Hi. -Oh, hello, Angela. -You must be Janet. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
-Hi, I'm Janet, hello. -Hi. -Pleased to meet you. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:06 | |
'And, with a long queue of hungry punters, I'm mucking in to help.' | 0:06:06 | 0:06:11 | |
-What can I get you? -Can I get chips, open, please? | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
Chips, open, that's one of these, isn't it? | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
'Now, there may not be a big list of allergens in those chips, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
'but the new law has forced Janet to scrutinise | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
'what's in EVERYTHING that the shop sells, from the fillings | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
'in the pies to the batter mix for the fish, and from the | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
'contents of the ketchup to the extras in the sausages.' | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
That's £2.30, please. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
'But with Janet buying her ingredients from dozens | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
'of suppliers who might themselves use a number of different | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
'manufacturers, that's quite a task. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
We've got deliveries coming in every day | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
and, without checking the ingredients label on every product, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
we don't know whether any of the allergens or the ingredients | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
have changed, and the only way at the moment is to check every label. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
Do you think your suppliers are as aware as you are? | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
No, I don't. Some of them are, some of them, yes, are ahead of us. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
One of our main suppliers has informed us. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
Everything I buy from him has come with an allergen list now, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
so I know what allergens are in there. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
But I did ring somebody yesterday and he had no idea. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
-Oh, my gosh. -So, it's a scary one. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
We're the last link in the chain before | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
that food goes to the customer, so, obviously, we've got to be more aware | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
than anybody else of what's in that dish. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
It's obvious that while Janet is desperately keen to abide | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
by the new law, keeping on top of EVERY ingredient that she uses | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
is going to be a big job. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
To make it easier for her staff to be able to answer questions, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
she's created a book listing the products that they sell | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
and what's in them. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
We have a file we keep behind the counter that the staff can see. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
-Allergen info. -Yes. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:43 | |
And what we've done to try and make it nice and simple for the staff | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
is we've listed the items that have allergens in, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
not every item that we have in the fish shop, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
and we've highlighted what possible allergen could be in there. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
Just talk me through some of them. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
We've got our favourite one, the battered cod. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
No problem with the fish, unless somebody's got an allergy to fish, | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
but the allergens on there relate to the batter that it's cooked in. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
Yes, cos it may have gluten in it. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
It can have gluten, it can have soya, mustard, a little bit of mustard... | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
-Is mustard an allergen? -It is, it is, yes. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:13 | |
There are things in this list that you wouldn't expect, aren't there? | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
-Yes, there is, yes. -Yeah. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:18 | |
Do you think this is a good idea | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
and that this particular piece of legislation is actually worthwhile? | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
Yes, I think it's good, because it's highlighting something | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
and it's making us aware of how serious it is. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
If you do get into trouble, it's the expense if you do it wrong. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
Well, it seems like Janet and Stuart have got their work cut out | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
to abide by the new laws when you look at all the products | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
that they have on offer. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
But let's hope, for the sake of people like Penelope, that they | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
and other food retailers get it right. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
I will be able to go out, go to somewhere | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
and say, "Can you tell me if this particular item contains soya?" | 0:08:50 | 0:08:55 | |
And they have to know whether it does or not. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
And that will make my life virtually blissful, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:03 | |
because I haven't been able to do this in the past. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:08 | |
Of all the health messages we've been bombarded with over | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
the years, reducing the amount of salt we eat is one of the clearest. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
Too much salt is linked to high blood pressure, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
which, in the long term, can lead to life-threatening health problems | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
like heart attacks and strokes. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
But, despite that message ringing out loud and clear, we still eat | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
more salt than we should and most of it is in processed foods. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:39 | |
So the obvious solution might seem for it to simply be taken | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
out of these foods altogether. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
But, as one Rip-Off Britain viewer who wrote to us about exactly | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
that subject has now found out, that's not as simple as it sounds. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
We keep being told about the bad things in the food we eat, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
and many of us try hard to cut down on the ones that, | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
if we have too much, can do us harm. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
Sugar, saturated fat and alcohol might be the usual suspects | 0:10:04 | 0:10:10 | |
but for anyone with potential heart problems, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
public enemy number one is salt. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
And some of us, like Maggie Hackney from Hertfordshire, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
would like to see the amount contained in some of our foods | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
dramatically reduced. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:22 | |
Maggie has a long-term interest in health, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
so much so that her years of work in the area | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
have earned her an MBE. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
I'd like to see the food industry remove all | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
unnecessary salt from any food products. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:38 | |
I don't think you have to compromise on taste | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
by reducing salt in food. I think you can have both. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
And that's something we're about to test out. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
The recommended maximum intake of salt is 6g a day for an adult. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:53 | |
Any more and we're told we could risk | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
increasing the chances of heart disease. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
But, on average, each of us eats closer to eight to 9g a day. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
About 75% of the salt we eat is already in the food we buy, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
in things like bread, breakfast cereals and ready meals, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
so it's not always easy to know how much salt you're consuming. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:14 | |
And it's these pre-made, processed products in particular | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
that Maggie thinks need to be shedding the salt. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
My father died of heart disease, and I am aware that we used to eat | 0:11:21 | 0:11:27 | |
far too much salt in our diet when I was young with my family at home. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:33 | |
On average, we Brits eat almost 50% more salt every day than we should, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:40 | |
and the place that eats the most... | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
is Scotland. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:43 | |
Here, as in the rest of the UK, the Government has set strict targets | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
to reduce the levels of salt in foods. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
But that can be easier said than done. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
So Maggie has come to Scotland to see for herself | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
how challenging it can be to cut salt from foods altogether. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
-Hello. -Hiya, Maggie. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
Cameron Skinner is an award-winning butcher who runs | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
the Extraordinary Sausage Company. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
Sausages are traditionally high in salt. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
Just two of them could be a quarter of your daily allowance. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
But that's no longer quite the case with Cameron's sausages, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
as he's been working hard to reformulate his recipes | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
with less salt. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
Cameron makes 60 varieties of sausage, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
and they all contain more than 75% meat. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
The remaining 25% is usually made up of ingredients like oats, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
rice and a unique combination of herbs, seasoning and salt. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:36 | |
That looks like an awful lot of salt. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
With all manufacturers feeling the pressure from the Government | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
to use less salt, Cameron was keen to oblige. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
But when he tried removing salt from his sausages entirely, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
he soon found there was a very big problem. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
His bangers just didn't taste as good. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
We made a sausage with no salt in it at all and it was terrible. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:59 | |
Everything about it. The colour wasn't the same, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
texture was different and the overall flavour just wasn't there. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:07 | |
It's a challenge shared across the food industry. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
Removing one thing from a recipe can throw up all sorts | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
of unexpected problems, which require lots of time-consuming | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
and expensive research to resolve. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
And with a fraction of the resources of a big supermarket, it's not easy | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
for small businesses like Cameron's to work out how to make | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
something like sausages salt-free while still tasting just as good. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:31 | |
So, with limited resources himself, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
Cameron turned to a pilot scheme | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
run by the Scottish Food and Drink Federation | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
to help small businesses reformulate their recipes. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
Chris Peace is the food technologist who was assigned to Cameron's case. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:47 | |
Cameron asked me to review the recipes, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
to identify the salt content | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
and which ingredients it was contained within. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
Chris discovered that the saltiest part of the sausage | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
was the seasoning mix that formed the base of lots of Cameron's recipes. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:03 | |
We did have to work with a number of different seasoning companies, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
some products were rejected straightaway | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
and we couldn't get anything close to what we were looking for. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
Other people who worked, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
they created a number of variations that we tried | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
with further improvements or finessing of the recipe, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
until we got what we were actually looking for. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
It took almost six months before Chris, Cameron | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
and the seasoning manufacturers could come up with a mix | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
that Cameron's customers approved of. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
Well, it was absolutely brilliant, we knew we'd got there, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
obviously you can calculate the recipe and you know | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
where the salt content needs to be, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:36 | |
but it's getting that right blend of spices and flavours in there | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
to come through at the same time. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
Dr Jonathan Wilkin from Abertay University knows only too well | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
the problems manufacturers like Cameron face | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
when they're trying to cut out salt | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
because it plays a much bigger role in food than simply taste. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
Why can't we just take out all salt from all prepared foods? | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
We can't take all salt out of all prepared foods | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
because it's there for shelf life. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:09 | |
If you want to pick up a food product on a Monday | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
and still eat it on a Saturday or a Sunday, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
then you need salt in it. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:17 | |
And if it isn't, the problems might not just stop | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
at sausages that taste bad. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:21 | |
If you don't get it right, in some cases, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
removing the salt could actually be dangerous. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
As Jonathan's keen to demonstrate. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
We have our Petri dishes, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
and what we've done is added different salt contents | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
or percentages to the Petri dishes. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
When you remove salt from food, it makes it easier | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
for potentially harmful bacteria to grow, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
increasing the risk of food poisoning | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
if it isn't sold and eaten quickly. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
Most bacteria don't like salt | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
and as you can see, each one has a percentage of salt. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
So this one's got no salt, this one's got 2.5% salt. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
And as you can see, there's still a reasonable amount of growth. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
When it gets up to 5%, we see a reduction, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
quite a big reduction in salt, but still a little bit | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
of bacteria growing, and then at 7.5 they're completely clean, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
there's nothing in there, so it just shows you the percentages of salt | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
can really make a difference | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
when you're preserving foods against bacteria. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
And is there any other way we could do this safely yet? | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
Currently, no. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
If we started putting low salt in food products, | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
-you would see more food going off quicker. -Mm-hm. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
Making sure that lower salt levels in what we eat don't risk | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
causing it to go off faster or even lead to food poisoning | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
requires expertise and research, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
neither of which Cameron's business had easily available. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:46 | |
But thanks to the combined powers of the experts | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
and those seasoning manufacturers, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
Cameron's sausages now contain | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
an impressive 45% less salt than they used to, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
making them well within the Scottish Government's targets. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
And to make up for what was taken out, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
Cameron got creative with what he put back in. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
We make a sausage with seaweed and rhubarb | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
which gives you the saltiness, you know, natural saltiness, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
with a bit of tartness with the rhubarb. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
We also made a sausage with banana. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
We use fruit, veg, all different things, to give other... | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
chillies, things like that, to give other flavours to the products. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
Convinced that, with the right help, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
all manufacturers could bring their salt levels down, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
Maggie hopes what she's seen in Scotland can be extended | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
to the rest of the UK to help all of us reduce the amount of salt we eat. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:36 | |
I've learnt a lot from this experience, but I now understand | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
that you can't totally remove all salt from a product, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
but to do so and still keep the flavour and taste, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:49 | |
I think, is the way forward. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
Still to come on Rip-Off Britain, we'll cut through the mixed messages | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
and confused advice to separate fact from fiction | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
when it comes to having a healthy diet. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
It's a bit confusing when, on one hand, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
you need to increase your fruits and vegetables | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
and on the other hand, it's conflicting information | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
telling you that you shouldn't have them. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
Now, we know from all your e-mails and letters | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
just how baffled many of you are | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
by the often conflicting health advice | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
it seems we're bombarded with every single day. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
Well, don't worry, because help is at hand! | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
We enlisted a willing volunteer to help us cut through | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
all the confusion and the different messages that are out there. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
But as she did all of that, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
the question we couldn't stop wondering about | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
is whether amidst all the misinformation that's around, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
are we getting as good, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
and as up-to-date, official help as we ought to be? | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
If all those surveys and news reports are to be believed, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
worrying about healthy eating is something of a national obsession. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
And certainly there are millions of us | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
who do try and keep up with the latest advice. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
But when so much of the information we get seems contradictory - | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
that isn't always easy. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:06 | |
Ashley Whitehead from Manchester is one of those | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
who tries to read up on how to eat more healthily. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
But, like many others, she can be left completely flummoxed | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
by what she sees in the newspapers and online. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
It's quite confusing whether or not, you know, | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
to increase meat for the protein or can you get protein elsewhere | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
from maybe lentils and the like? | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
So, that's been quite confusing for me. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
And she was left particularly frustrated after making | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
a change to her diet because she'd read it would be good for her, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
only to see a report saying exactly the opposite a short time later. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
One thing I changed in my diet | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
was increase the amount of fruit juices and smoothies, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
especially on the label | 0:19:47 | 0:19:48 | |
when they're mentioning it's two out of your five a day. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
However, I started reading that maybe they weren't as good for you. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:56 | |
If, like Ashley, you're trying | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
to work your way through all those conflicting messages, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
you might think that one place to turn to would be the Government. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
It publishes official health advice, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
shown on what's called "the eatwell plate". | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
You may have seen a poster of it in your GP's surgery, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
dividing up our diet into five food groups, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
and telling us roughly how much of each we should eat. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
The biggest shares go to starchy carbohydrates, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
and to fruit and veg, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
then followed by milk and dairy foods, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
protein-rich foods like meat, fish and beans, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
and finally foods that are high in fat or sugar. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
I've been left a little bit confused in trying to understand, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
you know, certain fruits contain a lot of sugar | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
and I should stay away from them. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:38 | |
So it's a bit confusing when, on one hand, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
you're told that it's healthy and you need to increase | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
your amount of fruits and vegetables | 0:20:44 | 0:20:45 | |
and on the other hand, it's, you know, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
conflicting information telling you that you shouldn't have them. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:52 | |
The idea of the eatwell plate was introduced 20 years ago. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
And although its design has changed since then, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
the advice and information shown has never been updated. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
And as a result, some experts, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
including nutrition scientist Professor Susan Jebb, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
are worried that instead of helping us identify what we should be eating | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
it's simply adding to all the confusion. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
The eatwell plate is designed to convey all of the information | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
we want to give the public about a healthy diet | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
and that's a pretty tall order for a single image. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
So I think it's not surprising that we have struggled | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
to make it as clear and as informative as it might be. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:30 | |
We put these criticisms to Public Health England, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
the organisation responsible for the eatwell plate. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
It told us...that the advice is not designed to be used alone, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
but alongside wider messaging from other NHS resources. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
It went on to say that its own research has found that consumers | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
are not confused about the imagery of a plate, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
and explained that the plate model hasn't changed in 20 years | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
because... | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
..in all this time. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:00 | |
But at the same time, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
Public Health England IS reviewing the visual image of the plate | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
to ensure that it remains: | 0:22:06 | 0:22:07 | |
But if the eatwell plate isn't enough to help Ashley make sense | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
of all the health advice we're overwhelmed with, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
then maybe nutrition consultant Sue Baic can. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
Sue's called round to see | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
if she can help clear up some of the things that have left | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
not just Ashley bewildered, but quite possibly you, as well. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
I eat a lot of fruit, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:29 | |
but I'm a bit concerned with the amount of sugar that's in the fruit. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
OK, the message is we should be having at least five a day | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
and that's a mix of different fruits and vegetables, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
but only about 31% of the population actually achieve it, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
so people aren't really managing it. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
People don't realise that canned count as one of your five a day, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
so your baked beans can count as one, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
you've got tomatoes and beans in there. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
And what about those fruit smoothies that Ashley had been put off buying | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
after seeing reports suggesting | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
they had too much sugar to really count towards your five a day? | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
With a smoothie, if you've got | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
two portions of fruit and vegetable in there, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
you've actually got the fibre in there as well. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
We do need a mix of fruit and vegetables | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
and we do need some that aren't juiced. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
So, it seems like Ashley needn't give up on those smoothies just yet! | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
But something else she can't quite keep up with is the advice on water. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
Because again, there isn't always agreement | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
on how much you should be drinking. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
Six to eight drinks a day, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
depending on how big they are. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
It doesn't have to be water - | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
tea counts, coffee, milk, fruit juice, squash, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
those sorts of fizzy drinks - they all count towards it. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:43 | |
A drink that doesn't count towards your daily water total is wine | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
because it's dehydrating. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
But some reports would have us believe that in moderation | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
it can have other life-extending magical properties | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
while others say exactly the opposite. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
So which is right? | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
Red wine contains some anti-oxidants | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
which have been shown to have benefits for heart disease. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
What the research shows is that all types of alcohol are beneficial | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
in terms of heart health, but only a very small amount | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
and for specific groups - men and post-menopausal women. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
And it's 1-2 units a day of any type of alcohol that's beneficial. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:20 | |
The problem is most people drink more than that. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
Why don't you pour into that glass | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
what you think would be a unit of red wine. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
OK, you've got about 250ml there, I would estimate, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
which, this is going to surprise you, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
that's actually three units! | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
That's a bit scary. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
Finally, Ashley gets particularly confused about carbohydrates, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
like bread, pasta and potatoes. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
Around a third of our diet should be starchy carbohydrate foods, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
and around half of that should be the wholegrain version. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
The wholegrains are higher in fibre | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
and they're higher in vitamins and minerals. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
They also keep us feeling full for longer as well. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
People get very scared about bread and potatoes, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
they think they're fattening, but often it's the things we add to them, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
so the butter or mayonnaise we might add to the potatoes or the bread | 0:25:06 | 0:25:12 | |
that adds on the extra calories. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
At the end of it all, it seems | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
the best advice is probably the simplest and the most familiar. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
Just about all foods can be absolutely fine | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
as part of a healthy diet. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
As long as you don't eat too much of any of them! | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
But for nutrition scientist Professor Susan Jebb, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
what's so frustrating about the mass of contradictory headlines | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
is that they distract from the more fundamental health messages, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
the ones that most experts agree on. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
The frustration for me is that actually the core of dietary advice | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
has remained absolutely consistent over many, many decades. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
On average, people eat too much saturated fat, too much sugar, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
too much salt and too little fibre. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
It's not lack of knowledge which is really the barrier | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
to people implementing healthy diets. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
As for Ashley, in future, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
she'll be taking a lot of the food stories and advice she reads | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
with that proverbial pinch of salt. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
A lot of the common-believed myths on what's bad and what's good | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
is more clearer now in my head and not necessarily going to look at, | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
you know, maybe things in that way any more. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
Here at Rip-Off Britain, we're always ready to investigate | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
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Well, I think as we've seen, making sure that the food we eat | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
won't do us any harm can be a very tough job | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
and one that never stops! | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
And I have to say, I was genuinely impressed to see that everything | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
is now thoroughly checked to stop anyone having an allergic reaction. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
You can't take away all the risks entirely, of course, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
but you can see there's a real commitment to getting it right. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
-And I think that's very comforting. -Very reassuring. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
And that really will pay off because it's going to make eating out | 0:27:30 | 0:27:34 | |
a lot easier for many, many people. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
I must say, by the way, I am always fascinated | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
when we get the access to have that look behind the scenes. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
So much goes in the food industry we're not even aware of, | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
and it's good to know that people are working really hard | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
to make what we eat not just safe, but also healthy. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
And on that reassuringly positive note, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
we have to leave it for today. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
You can of course find out more about the stories in today's programme | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
on our website, you know the address... | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
And we'll be back to investigate more of your stories soon. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
But until then, thanks for joining us, and from all of us, goodbye. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
-Goodbye. -Bye-bye. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:12 |