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-ANGELA: -There's a lot we don't know about the food on our plates, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
and the shops and the labels don't always tell you the whole story. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
I think they encourage you to buy more than you need | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
and that causes a lot of waste. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:14 | |
JULIA: Whether you're staying in or going out, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
you've told us you can feel ripped off | 0:00:18 | 0:00:19 | |
by the promises made about what you eat | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
and what you pay for it. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:23 | |
How do you know that it's half price? | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
Right, so what they've done, they've bumped the price up | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
and then knocked it down. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
-GLORIA: -From claims that just don't stack up | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
to the secrets behind the packaging, | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
we'll uncover the truth about Britain's food, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
so that you can be sure that you're getting | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
what you expect at the right price. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
Your food, your money. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
This is Rip-Off Britain. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
Hello, and thank you so much for joining us again | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
on Rip-Off Britain | 0:00:52 | 0:00:53 | |
for a special series of programmes | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
where we're literally peeling back the labels and the packaging | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
to find out the secrets of the food we eat | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
and whether we're always getting exactly what we think we are. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
-And clearly we're not, are we? -No. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
Because food scares and stories, of course, fill the newspapers | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
and it's sometimes just very hard to know which ones to believe. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
So, on these programmes, we're going to be looking into | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
some of the big stories around food and drink | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
that have either been in the news | 0:01:18 | 0:01:19 | |
or that you've told us about | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
that you'd like us to investigate on your behalf. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
And we guarantee we'll have the answers | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
to some of the other questions you may well have wondered about, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
along with plenty of tips and advice so that when you go shopping, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
you've got a much better idea of what's going into your trolley | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
and onto your plate. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
Coming up, one man's mission to make the packaging on our foods | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
more upfront about what's inside. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
We've redesigned some labels to see if he's right. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
This is a better way to tell customers | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
what they're buying, what's in their product. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
That's what they need to know, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
and they don't need a magnifying glass to go at the back | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
to find out what's in. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:00 | |
Many thanks to all of you who wrote or e-mailed with ideas or subjects | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
that you wanted to investigate for this food series. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
And it was one of those letters that prompted our next story, | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
with a question that you may well have wondered about yourself. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
The average supermarket stocks | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
tens of thousands of different products, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
and few of us have the time or the patience | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
to scrutinise the back of every packet | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
to make sure that we know exactly what we're getting. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
In fact, we're said to make a decision about | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
whether to buy something in less than a second. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
So we really do rely on the information | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
on the front of the packaging | 0:02:40 | 0:02:41 | |
to give us a proper picture of what's inside. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
But Rip-Off Britain viewer Philip Clough | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
doesn't think that's always the case. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
He wrote to us to say that he's not happy | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
about what he calls "poetic licence" on packets, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
where the label on the front says one thing, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
but you only get the full details | 0:03:00 | 0:03:01 | |
by wading through the small print on the back. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
He thinks the key information should be big and bold on the front. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:10 | |
I don't understand why I've got to pick up a packet, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
turn it around, get my magnifying glass out, | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
to actually check and see what's in that product. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
I need it on the front, to say exactly what I'm getting. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:27 | |
And what particularly gets Philip's goat | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
is when he discovers that some of his favourite foods | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
don't contain as much of what's apparently the key ingredient | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
as he might have imagined. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
Sharwood's chicken korma. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
Magnifying glass is required. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
There is, 12% is chicken. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:48 | |
Then we've got salmon crumble... | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
and it's 13% salmon. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
They should put on here, in a big label, "13% salmon," | 0:03:54 | 0:03:59 | |
so that we know exactly what we're buying. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
What I want to see on these boxes, on these packets, | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
is a clear sign | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
saying the quantity of meat or fish in them. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
Well, while Philip's obviously got a real bee in his bonnet about this, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
none of these packs are breaking any of the rules or regulations, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
which, in fact, set out really clearly | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
just what can and can't be said on the front of a packet. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
Dr Richard Hyde is a product labelling and marketing expert. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
The law in this area is really clear. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
There's lots of very specific rules | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
that apply to specific products, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
and they're there to make sure that you're not being mislead | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
by someone calling a product a particular name | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
when it doesn't meet those criteria. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
So, if you call it a meat pie, it's got to have meat in it. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
If you call it a steak and kidney pie, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
it's got to have steak and kidney in it. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
Your basic rule is, if it says it's got it in, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
it's got to be there when you eat the food. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
And that is the case with all the products | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
that Philip has singled out. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:05 | |
There might not be as much of some of the ingredients as he'd like, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
but there certainly isn't any problem | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
as far as the rules are concerned. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:12 | |
Now, with some foods, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
there are specified limits of what needs to be in there. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
Take, for example, these pork sausages. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
They contain 42% pork. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
Any less and they wouldn't be allowed | 0:05:23 | 0:05:24 | |
to be called pork sausages at all. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
But, with that amount, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:28 | |
they are firmly on the right side of the line. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
But the required levels of meat in other products | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
don't always need to be so high. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
For meat pies, it's got to be 12.5% meat. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
Steak and kidney pie, 12.5% made up of steak or kidney. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:46 | |
Erm, obviously, you've got to have some steak in there, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
some kidney in there, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
but it's got to, in total, come to 12.5%. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
Burgers are something else you might want to keep an eye on. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
A beef burger has to contain 62% of beef | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
to be allowed to call itself that. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
But an economy beef burger only has to have 47% of beef in it. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:09 | |
Perhaps the most surprising of all, though, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
is the humble sausage roll. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
Only 6% of it has to be sausage, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
which leaves a lot of room for other things entirely, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
stuff you may not notice | 0:06:19 | 0:06:20 | |
if you don't actually study the back of the pack. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
Which is exactly why Philip thinks | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
more information should be given on the front. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
So, to find out whether other people agree with him, | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
we've sent him out armed with some redesigned packaging | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
for a few everyday products. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
And we'll see what the shoppers that he meets | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
think of how he'd like manufacturers | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
to list their ingredients. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
This is a better way to tell customers | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
what they're buying, what's in their product. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
That's what they need to know... | 0:06:51 | 0:06:52 | |
..and they don't need a magnifying glass | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
to go at the back to find out what's in. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
These new designs are all based on foods | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
that Philip had in his kitchen at home, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
but we've made clear on the front how the ingredients stack up. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
So, with our pork sausages, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
you'd know straightaway how much pork is inside. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
OK, pork sausages, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
42% pork. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
Aha...10% pork fat. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
And the meat content of the steak and kidney pie | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
is now right at the top. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
Pie... | 0:07:27 | 0:07:28 | |
it's not saying steak, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:29 | |
because there's only 12% steak. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
And the salmon crumble has a new name. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
It's now a potato and salmon crumble. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
Well, that's correct, because it is mainly potato... | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
and only 13% is pink salmon. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
But will these new designs win over shoppers? | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
Typical packet of pork sausages, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
how much meat do you expect there to be in them? | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
90%. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:56 | |
Would you be surprised that there's a lot on the market | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
that only have something like 40. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
I am surprised. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:04 | |
What's the rest of the stuff in there? | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
If you saw this potato and salmon crumble, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
how much salmon would you expect there to be? | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
25%? | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
In actual fact, you'll find 13% is only fish. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
Well, that's a surprise, actually, yeah. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
I thought it'd be a bit more than that. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
You don't have to go looking for it on the back. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
It's there, you can see it, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:24 | |
you can make an easy, quick, informed decision. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
If it is there, then you just know what you're getting. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
It's hardly a scientific test, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:30 | |
but Philip's more upfront labelling | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
certainly seems to be a hit with the people that he's met. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
But when we contacted the companies behind the products | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
that had prompted Philip to write to us in the first place, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
not all of them were so impressed. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
Young's, who make the salmon crumble, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
and beef hotpot manufacturer Findus | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
both told us they would look closely at his suggestions, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
stressing that they want to... | 0:08:54 | 0:08:55 | |
Young's also said that it's been working on | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
adding more fish to its crumble. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
But sausage manufacturer Richmond told us | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
that its sausages are already clearly labelled | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
with all the information that their customers need, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
including a comprehensive list of ingredients | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
and Guideline Daily Amount labels on the front of the pack, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
in line with industry standards. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
Sharwood's, whose chicken korma was queried by Philip, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
also said its packaging meets | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
all official labelling and dietary guidelines, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
and pointed out that since chicken features in the name of the product, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
they include the percentage of chicken in the ingredients list, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
where, they believe, most consumers would expect to find it. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
But Philip seems unlikely to change his mind on this, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
especially after testing out those new designs. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
This is the way it should say it. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
It should say exactly what the contents are right on the front, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:59 | |
in bold unmistakable lettering. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
Now, when we look at the labels on food, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
we trust that they're honest about what's inside. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
And, in fact, there are rules to make sure that they don't mislead us | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
with promises they can't keep. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
But labels don't necessarily tell us the whole story, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
and that means we may form the wrong idea about a product | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
because of the language that's been used on the label. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
For example, take the word natural. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
To lots of us, natural is a reassuring word | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
that you might assume implies | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
that the product hasn't had much done to it. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
But it may surprise you to know that some products labelled natural | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
have a rather more complicated history than you'd think. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
These days, heavily-processed and additive-filled foods | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
top the list of things many of us want to cut back on. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
It must be a whale! | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
Which is why so many of us, | 0:10:58 | 0:10:59 | |
including the parents at this book shop in Manchester, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
are choosing to give our families apparently purer foods. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
And what could be more pure and natural | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
than something labelled as, well, natural? | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
If I saw the term natural, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:13 | |
I'd assume it's got no additives or preservatives. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
I would buy something that has natural written on it, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
cos it, I would think it would be better for my family. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
It conjures up images of farms and lovely rural places | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
um, and you'd naturally be more drawn | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
to giving that to your children. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
According to a survey a couple of years ago, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
one in three of us now claims to actively seek out natural products, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
and 70% of people asked said that, to them, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
it's important that food is natural. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
So it's no surprise that brands can be keen | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
to make a link between their product and nature. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
But whilst branding expert Gary Davies | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
understands why companies would want to associate their foods | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
with something that so many people clearly value, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
he also thinks that the terms they use are almost meaningless. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:02 | |
The word natural is one of the favourite words | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
for a marketing person, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
because it's sort of vague. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:07 | |
Nobody quite knows what it means, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
but it sounds as if it must be good for you, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
it sounds, it's pure, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
it even sounds as if it might be more healthy | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
than something which is unnatural. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
Many of the products that use the term natural | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
in their names or on the label | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
are cereals, snacks and drinks. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
And alongside whatever natural ingredients they contain, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
there may be high levels of sugar or fat, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
meaning they may not always be quite the healthy choice you might think. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
This cereal bar actually contains 28.3% sugar, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:41 | |
nearly 6% more than the amount | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
which the NHS would term "high-sugar product." | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
And this snack has 40.7% sugar and 24.6% fat. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:53 | |
Anything above 17.5% total fat | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
is considered a "high-fat product" by the NHS. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
All of which explains why obesity surgeon Dr Sally Norton | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
is so worried by the names and labels on some of our foods. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
Manufacturers are very aware | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
that we're trying to eat more healthily, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
and they're tapping into that vulnerability that we have. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
I mean, people in the UK aren't stupid, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
they know we need to eat better food and we need to tackle our weight, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
and so they're actively looking for products that seem to be healthier. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
And manufacturers are taking advantage of this, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
it's something called the health halo, | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
so if you have products that say that they're natural | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
or full of fruit, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:31 | |
then we tend to pick them up, we buy more of them | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
and, actually, we eat more of them too, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
which can result in, quite perversely, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
in us eating more calories | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
than if we thought that it was an unhealthy product. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
And Dr Norton has a few examples of products | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
that we might assume from the names or packaging would be good for us. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:51 | |
Well, if you look at this product, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:52 | |
it's actually got a really nice packaging to it. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
It's got a nice green, um, logo up here | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
with some fields and things, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
and then it's got a lovely big picture of fruit on here. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
So I would be drawn to this, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:03 | |
it looks like a nice healthy product. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
But actually, if you look at the back, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:07 | |
you'll see that it's got... | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
um, per 100g, it's got 26g of sugar. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
That means that a quarter of this product is pure sugar. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
And as for fruit, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
only 3% of this product is fruit, | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
so we've got 3% fruit, 25% sugar. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
Not quite as healthy now. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
Now, this product is something | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
that my children have actually gone off and bought | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
when they wanted a drink | 0:14:29 | 0:14:30 | |
and they knew I wouldn't be too impressed | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
if they came back with a fizzy can of something. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
So they bought this, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:35 | |
they were lured in by the green labelling and the fruits, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
and somewhere on here, it says "natural mineral water." | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
And they drunk the whole lot themselves, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:43 | |
so they had over 10 teaspoons of sugar in this. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
It says natural, it looks nice and healthy... | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
It's not at all, it's just sugary water. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
The manufacturers of such products reject any criticisms, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
saying their ingredients are made clear on the label. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
Eat Natural told us more than half the sugars in its cereal bar | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
are from the dried fruit and honey, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:06 | |
and therefore, naturally occurring, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
but in any case, it's... | 0:15:09 | 0:15:10 | |
..which they say are simple ones you'd find at home, with... | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
..in anything they make. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:22 | |
Volvic stressed its water | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
contains both natural mineral water and fruit flavourings, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
and it... | 0:15:30 | 0:15:31 | |
..with the lemon and lime extracts enough to satisfy the rules | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
on what can be described as a natural flavouring. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
Nature Valley, who make this oats and honey bar, didn't comment | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
and nor did the makers of the granola that Dr Norton looked at. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
But she recommends looking carefully at the ingredients | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
before assuming that what you're buying is as healthy as it appears. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
Products that have the label natural, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
it doesn't mean that they're any better for you than other products. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
They may be, but we need to read the back of the package | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
and look at those ingredients properly. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
They may be no better for you at all. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
And watch out for anything described on the label as natural sugars. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
Dr Norton says that doesn't make them any healthier. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
Sugar is sugar is sugar, basically. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
In fact, I think there are about 50 different terms | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
that manufacturers can use for sugar on the back of their products, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
and we are fooled by them. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:26 | |
We think that honey is better for us because it's natural. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
It's just sugar, and we mustn't be fooled by these terms. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
There are no laws governing the use of the word natural on food labels, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
but there are guidelines | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
which suggest that it means food is made of natural ingredients, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
and that no chemicals, additives or flavourings have been added. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:48 | |
By that criteria, all of the foods are OK | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
to describe themselves as natural, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
even if that doesn't mean they're necessarily healthy. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
So this is a grey area, | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
and because it's a grey area, | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
it's one that marketing people can exploit, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
taking advantages of the connotations | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
that we put around a word like natural. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
It's wholesome, it's good for you, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
it's better for you than if we didn't use that word. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
But fundamentally, it's a word which has no particular meaning. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
Did you know that a quarter of us suffer from an allergy? | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
Now, it might be to something like pollen or pet hair, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
which, although annoying, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:28 | |
can usually be pretty straightforward to manage. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
But food allergies can be much more difficult to tackle, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
which is why we rely on what manufacturers | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
put on the actual labels, | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
to tell us whether a particular food is going to be safe to eat. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
Now, all of that's fine | 0:17:42 | 0:17:43 | |
if the label says the product definitely DOES contain | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
whatever it is you're allergic to. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
But if it simply says it "might", | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
well, that may mean that you're avoiding foods | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
that you actually could be enjoying. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
So when we heard about one mum, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
asking why she couldn't be told for sure | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
what is in some of the food she buys, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
I went off to investigate. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
Even the smallest trace of nuts in a product | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
can cause serious problems for those who are allergic to them. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
So you might think the familiar warning "may contain nuts" | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
would be welcomed by Clare Hussein from Portsmouth, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
whose four-year-old daughter Bikita | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
suffers from 11 food allergies, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
including one to nuts. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:25 | |
But in fact, Clare doesn't consider such a vague warning helpful. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
She wants to know for sure what is in Bikita's food | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
to make sure she doesn't come into contact with the allergens | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
that could trigger a sudden reaction. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
Everywhere you go, you're worrying about what could happen. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
You worry about surfaces having... | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
food or protein from different foods on them | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
that she's going to get on her hands. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
For Clare, the weekly food shop can prove very tricky indeed, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
because of the minefield of products | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
that need to be checked and avoided. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
There isn't one shop I can go into | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
and...do a complete food shop. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
I have to visit three or four supermarkets. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
And because food manufacturers often change their recipes, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
or the way they make their products, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
Clare has to meticulously check the labels | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
every single time she shops. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
Even after I've done the shopping, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
I have to e-mail the manufacturers to find out their facilities | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
and the conditions the food's made in. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
You just have to be so vigilant at all times, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
and there's no room for error. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
The range of foods Bikita can eat without Clare having to worry | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
is pretty slim. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
So when she finds something Bikita loves that's completely safe, | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
it's a minor victory against the allergies. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
And for the last six months, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:49 | |
Bikita's favourite treat has been chocolate buttons. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
But on a recent trip to the supermarket, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
the ones they normally buy were nowhere to be found. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
Previously, the supermarket had stocked | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
a different brand of chocolate buttons | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
that were safe | 0:20:04 | 0:20:05 | |
um, and were well known for being safe | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
and produced in a nut-free facility. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
That product had disappeared off the shelves for a while | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
and had now been replaced with the supermarket's own chocolate buttons. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:19 | |
These new buttons were free from dairy, gluten | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
and some other allergens. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
But unfortunately for Bikita, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:26 | |
the label still had one very important warning. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
I picked up the packet, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:31 | |
being excited that we'd found a new product, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
turned the packet over, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:35 | |
and was immediately...disheartened in that it said, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
"Also, may contain nuts." | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
I couldn't buy the product, I had to put it back on the shelf. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
Clare has also noticed that a whole range of other products | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
she'd previously bought at various supermarkets | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
now seem to carry that "may contain nuts" warning, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
including unexpected things | 0:20:55 | 0:20:56 | |
like butternut squash, apple juice and bananas. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
I find it hard to imagine how... | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
a banana, for example, would have come into contact | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
with any kind of nuts, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
so to then put a label on it to say may contain nuts... | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
just, it...it seems silly. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
We took a close look at the labelling | 0:21:18 | 0:21:19 | |
on a real mix of supermarket products, | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
from a variety of stores and manufacturers. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
And like Clare, we're just a little surprised | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
by some of the foods that warn they may contain nuts. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
Let's look at the apple juice. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
Up here, "May contain nuts." | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
To me, it is nuts to think they would be in the apple juice, | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
but anyway, there you go. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
And then you have a look at Greek style yogurt. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
Straightforward, you might think. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
"Allergy advice. May contain nuts." | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
Let's see what else we have over here. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
Tomato and mushroom pasta sauce. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
And here we go, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
"Allergy advice. May contain traces of nuts." | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
A recent survey from the Food Standards Agency | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
found half of all products with allergy warnings on the label | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
didn't, in fact, contain any allergens at all. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
So when Clare found that new range of chocolate buttons | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
in the supermarket, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:14 | |
she wasn't satisfied at being told it may contain nuts. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
She wanted to know for sure whether it did or it didn't. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
So she contacted the store to find out, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
and was told that these labels are only used | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
when there is "a demonstrable risk." | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
But Clare doesn't think that that's good enough | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
and wants to know why more detail can't be given. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
"May contain" labels are very vague. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
They don't tell you whether the facility has nuts in the factory | 0:22:37 | 0:22:42 | |
or they're on the same line as the product you're buying. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
And a "may contain" label means that I cannot buy that product. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
So, rather than using the word may, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:50 | |
could food manufacturers give a more definitive answer | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
on what is inside? | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
To find out some of the challenges around this, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
I've come to Saffron Walden in Essex, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
where Simon Hatcher is the operations director | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
at Cole's Puddings. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
Well, Simon, I have to say, I am not Mary Berry, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
so this looks like a lot of baking here. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
So, what exactly are you making here? | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
We're making some brandy Christmas puddings here. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
What would you normally do? Throw the whole box in? | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
-Would you like me to take over? -I think I would. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
-OK, there you go with the nuts. -There we go, we just tip them. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
It just smells like Christmas, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:22 | |
but I guess that's right, as you're making Christmas pudding. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
-SHE LAUGHS -I love it. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
These puddings do contain nuts, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
which means Simon wouldn't be confident | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
of making any other puddings he could label as nut-free | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
using the same machinery, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
just in case the slightest trace of nut slips through. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
There's a real risk of having nut contamination. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
You imagine, you have to clean down every piece of machinery | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
from, between a nut product and a non-nut product. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
It's quite a big risk for someone who has a nut allergy | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
to have a piece of nut in there. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
Morrisons told us that its low fat Greek yoghurt | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
is made in the same manufacturing site | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
as its low fat hazelnut yoghurt, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
so a warning... | 0:24:06 | 0:24:07 | |
ASDA declined to comment | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
when asked about its tomato and pasta sauce, | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
but the British Retail Consortium, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
which represents most of the supermarkets, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
told us that its members | 0:24:22 | 0:24:23 | |
would always "use a thorough risk assessment" | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
to work out if a warning is required. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
And as for the Tesco apple juice... | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
well, more on that shortly. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:32 | |
Now, to guard against the possibility of cross-contamination, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
Cole's could very easily just put on the label | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
those three words that drive Clare mad - | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
may contain nuts. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
But instead, this particular company has found a very different way | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
to ensure its nut-free puddings really are nut-free. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
They make them in a completely different factory, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
over 35 miles away. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
This is where we do the specialist puddings, | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
so we do the free from | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
and it's fairly labour intensive | 0:25:00 | 0:25:01 | |
and, erm, smaller volumes. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
I know that some sites do have the two things on the same site. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
We don't, we think it's too dangerous. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
But not all manufacturers are able to have separate sites | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
to make sure the ingredients from one product | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
can't contaminate another. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
Which is why, even if there is the tiniest risk, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
labelling even the most surprising goods | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
with the warning "may contain nuts" | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
remains the best way to flag up the danger, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
however annoying that may be for customers who want to know for sure. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
You can see both sides of that. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
You can see that the factory side of it would be, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
"Well, we've got to be careful. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:37 | |
"One minute drop of this allergen | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
"will set off an anaphylactic shock." | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
And the other side, the frustration, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
"Well, I can eat that, I know I can eat that, | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
"but it says it may contain nuts, so that stops me." | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
That's a feeling that mums like Clare know all too well. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
But, for her, at least, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:53 | |
there's one piece of good news on the horizon. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
When we contacted Tesco, | 0:25:58 | 0:25:59 | |
the store whose range of chocolate buttons | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
prompted Clare to write to us in the first place, | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
it told us its... | 0:26:04 | 0:26:05 | |
And reiterated that the may contain nuts label | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
is displayed only... | 0:26:11 | 0:26:12 | |
But the store made clear that it continues to review | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
labelling on all products, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
and in doing so, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:23 | |
has found that some of their suppliers | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
have incorrectly stuck a warning on products | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
that don't in fact require one at all. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
And there are other suppliers that have "reassessed their processes", | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
including the ones that make their chocolate buttons, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
and their apple juice. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
Tesco told us that as a result, these labels will be changed, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
with the "may contain" statement removed. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
And although that means Clare can once again | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
give her daughter Bikita the treat she loves, | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
she wishes she could get a definitive answer | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
on all the food she buys. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
I hope that when my daughter's older, | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
she is able to go into a supermarket, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
pick up a food product | 0:27:02 | 0:27:03 | |
and be able to tell from that label whether it's safe for her or not. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:07 | |
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