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There's a lot we don't know about the food on our plate.

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And the shops and the labels don't always tell you the whole story.

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You think you're getting a bargain,

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and you're not really. They're just encouraging you to buy

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more of a product when you don't need to.

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Whether you're staying in or going out, you've told us you can

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feel ripped off by the promises made about what you eat

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and what you pay for it.

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What really winds me up is the price

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of so-called healthy food - then compared with the unhealthy stuff.

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The unhealthy stuff seems to be so much cheaper.

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From claims that don't stack up to the secrets behind the packaging,

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we'll uncover the truth about Britain's food so you can be sure

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that you are getting what you expect, at the right price!

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Your food. Your money. This is Rip-Off Britain.

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Hello and welcome to Rip-Off Britain, where, as ever,

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we've been busy fighting your corner and we're investigating

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whether you're getting the best value with the things you buy.

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And this week, we're all about the things to do with food and

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drink, an area where you'll often be told you're getting a great deal,

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but you may not be.

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How true is that situation? Indeed sometimes the exact opposite is true

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and the claims that make you think you were bagging a bargain turn out

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to be a much less clear-cut situation than it seemed

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when you were handing over your money.

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So today, we're going to investigate some of the everyday situations

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or products that, and this is the word, appear to be

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offering value for money and we'll find out if they really do.

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Which means that along the way, we'll have plenty of money-saving

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tips that you really don't want to miss.

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Some of them come courtesy of a familiar face,

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someone you'll remember who had a huge impact the last time

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that he was on the programme.

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It's the Coupon Kid, and he's back!

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So listen out for how, by following his advice, we could actually

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help you to slash the cost of your weekly shop.

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Coming up, I'm the guinea pig for the high street tests that promise

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to diagnose food intolerances you may never know you had.

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Why doctors say you're wasting your cash.

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The science behind food intolerance tests, such as these, simply

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doesn't stack up against scientific critique.

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My advice would be to save your money.

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And the nation's favourite money-saving kid.

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We catch up with Jordon Cox to see what he can do to bring down

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the cost of your weekly shop.

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It genuinely has changed how I look at things, how I shop.

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I really do think about it now.

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And in the long run, I really can see it making a difference.

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Now, do you think you're intolerant to certain foods?

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More people believe that they are than ever before.

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And if you're one of them, you might be tempted by one of

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the do-it-yourself kits you can find

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in some well-known high street stores.

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These promise that their simple test will help you find out for sure.

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But are they any good? Many doctors would say no.

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Well, the only way to find out whether the claims

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made for these products are true was to try a couple of them myself.

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And I certainly wasn't expecting what I found out.

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Many of us would say that there are certain foods that,

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whether we like the taste of them or not, we have to avoid.

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I've suffered in the past with things like bread.

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Dairy, like cheese and stuff.

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But now I've just learnt

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to cut it down and eat, like, healthier choices.

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I tend to be intolerant very much of dairy, anything with dairy.

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While exact figures don't exist,

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it's thought as few as 2% of us have a genuine allergy.

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More of us are likely to have an intolerance, again,

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nowhere near as many as the number of people who think they do.

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But the sheer perception that there are foods we really shouldn't eat

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is helping to fuel a market in home-testing kits which promise to

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make it easy to find out for yourself.

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These kits have come in for a lot of criticism

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with both The British Dietetic Association and Allergy UK

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suggesting most are unreliable and not backed up by science.

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So we're going to put some of them to the test.

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And for that, we need a guinea pig. And guess who that is - me.

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Now, as far as I know, I don't have any food intolerances,

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but we're going to find out whether I'm right.

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We're going to test two kits that claim to detect intolerances.

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One that promises almost instant results at home

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and another which asks you to send off a sample of hair

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for analysis in their labs.

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So, let's start with the painful bit.

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Claims to measure something called IGG antibodies in the system,

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and you have to mix a small sample of blood with proteins in a tray.

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This test costs £65 and it tells me it can detect intolerances

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not just to food groups such as cereals, meats and vegetables,

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but it can also, apparently, even pick out very specific foods

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I might have a problem with, such as Durum wheat, lobster and melon.

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So while the blood test is busy working,

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let's get onto the hair analysis.

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This one's a little cheaper at £54.

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This test doesn't just limit itself to food.

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Its makers claim it can detect intolerances to more

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than 600 different things including pollen and pets.

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By the way, I've been blonde by act of will since the age of 18,

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so if they can find anything natural about these hairs,

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they're doing jolly well.

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So one, two, three...

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Go!

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The packet tells me to expect an answer in a week.

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Now we chose those particular tests

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because they're two of the most widely available on the high street.

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But dietician Sioned Quirke

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isn't convinced I'll be able to rely on the results.

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People may have problems digesting certain foods, but it doesn't mean

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they've got an intolerance. Some people are so desperate to find

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out what's going on, so if they experience something like bloating

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and diarrhoea on a daily basis, they just want an easy answer.

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What's going on? What can I cut out that's going to stop these horrible

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symptoms? So I think sometimes they buy a kit and it comes up

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with a couple of intolerances and they think,

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"Bingo, I've got the answer."

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But Sioned says pinning down a genuine food intolerance

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isn't as simple as tests like these would have you believe.

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A food intolerance is quite difficult to diagnose in such

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as there's not a specific test that we can use,

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that will give us a yes or a no.

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The food detective thing which was all that stuff with the trays

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and the water and all...

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The net result is that little blue dot in the corner there.

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And that single blue dot means I've got the all clear

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and the test hasn't revealed any food intolerances at all,

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which is great news,

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if not entirely unexpected.

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But a week later,

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when I got the results of the hair strand test, sold under

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the name The Intolerance Test, it was a very different story.

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This time, I was told I'm intolerant to more than 30 different

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things, including 19 foods -

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among them, things I regularly eat and enjoy without ever having

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a problem, such as salmon and chicken.

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I'm apparently 99% intolerant to cod. That's news to me!

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It also says I'm 99% intolerant to olives,

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97% intolerant to kiwi and curry spices.

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Lime, radish, chilli, macadamia nuts and soya beans -

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it's an extensive list of practically all my favourite things.

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But most surprising of all is the fact that the list includes

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lots of intolerances that the first test I took also claimed

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to identify, including peppers,

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lemon and the cod and olives that this test tells me

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I'm 99% intolerant to.

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But, remember, the other test didn't show up any problem.

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So how can two tests come back with completely different results?

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Time to talk to a specialist.

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So, Dr Campbell, I've now had all the results back,

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you've seen them, what do you make of all that?

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The tests themselves

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are quite contradictory,

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and I think this highlights some of the problems with food

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intolerance tests. The science behind food intolerance tests

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such as these simply doesn't stack up against scientific critique,

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as you've illustrated here.

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The results are unreliable

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and they don't correlate well with patients' symptoms.

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Even so, I was interested to know what the companies selling these kits

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had to say about the results.

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The first test, the Food Detective one which gave me

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the all clear, in my own opinion of course, was absolutely right in not

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indicating any food intolerances at all.

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But with all the official guidance advising against any of these

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kinds of tests, I wondered if the company behind this one

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would have the evidence to show it's reliable.

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Well, when we asked just that, the company insisted that

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the test is based on a...

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..and that there is evidence indicating that the...

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..which it's based on, is a "useful tool"

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with "clinically meaningful results".

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But it accepts there is controversy and cynicism

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from medical professionals around intolerance testing,

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which is why it's...

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The company went on to say that the test should only be used...

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..which I suppose means I shouldn't really have taken it.

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Even so, the company says it performed...

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As for the second kit I tried, The Intolerance Test that

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I sent my precious hair sample off to and which told me

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I was intolerant to 19 different foods...

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Well, when we asked the company behind that to justify its claims,

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it declined to comment.

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But it's hard to imagine anything they might have said would

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have convinced groups like the British Dietetic Association

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that tests such as these are worth the money.

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Ideally, I don't want to advocate people using home-testing kits

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because they have no scientific basis, so it's all down to chance.

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So if somebody feels that there is a problem, either with an intolerance

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or any other type of gastro problem, go and see your GP because

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they'll easily be able to signpost you in the right direction.

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Now, in a world of supermarket price wars and special offers,

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the total we're paying at the tills just seems to go up and up.

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But there are ways to keep those bills down.

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And one of the most spectacular methods was memorably illustrated

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on Rip-Off Britain last year

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when we met Jordon Cox, the teenager better known as the Coupon Kid!

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You'll remember how he slashes the cost of his mum's shopping

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by hunting down all sorts of coupons which, over the past year,

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has saved her thousands of pounds.

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Well, we had a huge response from you to Jordon and his tips, so we've

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been to see him again, to find out whether anyone can save money

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by using his methods.

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And this time, we set him a challenge to see if

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his ideas could help another young mum reduce her shopping bills too.

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Jordon Cox is the Coupon Kid, a title he earned

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thanks to the amazing way he uses money-saving offers

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and coupons to cut down on his family's shopping bills.

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And we're not just talking about saving a few pennies

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here and there...

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My biggest savings with coupons was just over £600 worth of shopping

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for 4p, and I donated it all

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to a homeless shelter for Christmas.

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They fed about 150 people and I only paid 4p for it.

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Jordon came into the studio on our live series back in October

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and we asked him to show us exactly what he could do.

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-So, how did it work out?

-Well, all of this should have cost me £32.

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-And I have some change for you...

-You've got change!

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I can't believe it!

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-A fiver, OK.

-So, £5.

-That's not it.

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-There's another pound.

-OK, so six back.

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-And another pound.

-Seven back.

-And 16p.

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-That is unbelievable.

-£2.84.

-£2.84. Yep.

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-All that?

-Yep.

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We were shocked.

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Well, Jordon and his coupons were a huge hit.

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We were inundated with comments and queries about how he does it,

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with loads of you keen to see if his ideas could work for you as well.

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So we asked Jordon to come back and show us more of his secrets

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and to see if he could pass his skills on to 29-year-old

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teaching assistant Lucy Black, from Brighouse in West Yorkshire.

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I'm a single mum. I've got a little boy who's three.

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Sometimes we struggle.

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I'd watched the show and seen Jordon on there,

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seen what he could do,

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and I was just fascinated to learn how I could do it myself, really.

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When Jordon came on Rip-Off Britain,

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he saved a lot of money on a single shopping trip.

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But this time, we wanted to see how his skills could be put to use

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week after week on all the food that Lucy buys.

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Lucy's situation really reminds me of myself and my mum

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when we were starting out. Before we started couponing,

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we were struggling, we didn't know what to do.

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I really hope that she can learn how to do this

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so she can save on her supermarket shop and have the luxuries in life.

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First of all, Jordon needs to find out just how savvy a shopper Lucy

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already is and that starts with where she shops.

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Like thousands of us, Lucy has swapped the big

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supermarkets for the smaller discount ones like Aldi and Lidl.

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But Jordon's not convinced that's going to be the best option

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where coupons are concerned because the best offers usually

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come from branded products that the discount stores don't always sell.

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Aldi can be good for buying, like, off-brand products,

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but if you really want to start saving with coupons

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and cash back, they're mostly for big name supermarkets.

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Lucy spends between £40 and £50 a week on food for herself

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and her three-year-old son, Finley.

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So do you think you're getting the most for your money? Are you

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using, like, any money-saving tactics to get money off your shop?

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I'd usually go for offers - if there's buy one get one free

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or two for three pounds or something like that, where I can.

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But that isn't always going to be the best way of saving money either

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because not all special offers are as special as

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they might appear!

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However, the good news is that when a supermarket offer is a good deal,

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some canny couponing could save you even more money.

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His secret weapon for finding those killer coupons is the internet.

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So, where would you go to first?

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I'd start with sites where you can print out coupons straightaway.

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All you have to do is sign up,

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you install some special coupon printer software

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-and then they just print out of your printer straight away.

-Right.

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But don't stop there. Checking the websites

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and Facebook pages of well-known brands can often turn up not

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just money off coupons, but vouchers for completely free products.

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And Jordon also uses lots of vouchers he gets directly from

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supermarkets - from their in-store magazines, loyalty card schemes

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like Nectar and bonus vouchers that he picks up at the till.

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After just a few minutes online, Jordon has found

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plenty of deals that could help Lucy save money without

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compromising the foods she loves.

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So, for all of these coupons that we've just had a little

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browse around the internet for, we've got £15.60 worth of savings.

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-That's if you use all of them.

-Yeah.

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-So shall we start cutting out the coupons?

-Let's.

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Finley, do you want to help us?

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You've got some little scissors, haven't you?

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So, with the coupons for her first shop printed,

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the final stage of Jordon's money-saving masterclass is

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to plan which shops Lucy needs to visit to maximise her savings.

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But before he leaves her to it,

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Jordon has a note of caution for Lucy.

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Don't buy the product just cos you've got a coupon for it.

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-Yeah.

-Only buy it if you need it or if you buy it every single week.

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If you've got like a coupon for 50p off crisps

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and you don't like that brand, you're just spending extra money.

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-So, only use coupons for the things that you would normally buy.

-Right.

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So, with those words of wisdom, it's time for Jordon to see

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if Lucy and Finley can put his tips into practice.

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Lucy kicked off by following the advice to shop at lots

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of different stores rather than stick to the same one.

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And when we went back to see her just over a month after

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Jordon's visit, she couldn't wait to show us some of her bargains

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and the offers that helped her find them.

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This shop here cost £19 at Tesco,

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with using the vouchers and the club card coupons,

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I've made a saving of £5, so it all came to £14.02.

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The shampoo, there was a 75p off voucher for that.

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I've been able to make a saving on the Tesco's own butter,

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that was 65p off.

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Off their tuna, was 25p.

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And again, off the olives, was 25p.

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Which is... They all seem like small

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amounts, but it adds up in the end, you know, it has made a difference.

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The exact amount Lucy saved on each shop varied week by week.

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But in total, over five shops across a month,

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she saved a whopping £51.71.

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Now, that means she knocked more than a quarter off her usual spend.

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If she was able to keep up the same rate of savings over a full year,

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which she's confident she could now do as she's got the hang of it,

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she could end up with an extra £620 in her pocket.

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It genuinely has changed how I look at things,

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how I shop, how I organise myself when I go.

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You know, I really do think about it now.

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And in the long run, I really can see it making a difference.

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And if you would like it to make a difference to your shopping as well,

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you can find some of Jordon's couponing tips on our website.

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Still to come on Rip-Off Britain...

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Who ate all the pies? And were they any good?

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We take to the terraces to see why one football fan feels he's

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being short-changed when it comes to his match-day treat.

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Quite frankly, it's not just the size of the pie.

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It's expensive.

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It's poor quality and it's just really not acceptable.

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Britain is a proud nation of pie lovers.

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And there are lots of occasions when a pie really is the perfect food,

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like for instance at a football match.

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It's hearty, it's wholesome and, most importantly, hand-held.

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A football pie really is fuel for fans on the terraces.

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Rather like this one, which I have to say, looks absolutely delicious.

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But of course not all pies are equal.

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Some football clubs sell factory-made, bargain basement pies

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at a really big mark up while others...

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well, they take pride in their pastry

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and put in only the very best ingredients.

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I tell you, I know which club I'd support.

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But could the quality of the pies even convince one avid football fan

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to change his allegiance?

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For some football fans, a key part of going to a match isn't

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really anything to do with the game itself.

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It's the pie they enjoy at half-time.

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And Kevin Mitchell is a big fan - of both his local team,

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Bradford City and a traditional pie.

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The first half,

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whether you're winning, you're drawing, you're losing,

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you look forward at half-time to a cup of tea,

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a coffee and a pie.

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For all age groups - older men like myself, young kids,

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it doesn't matter - we all love a pie.

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Now, in the past few years, the humble pie has undergone

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something of a renaissance.

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Gourmet pies lining supermarket shelves and on restaurant menus

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are chock-full of high quality, mouthwatering ingredients.

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But Kevin reckons some of the ones

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sold at a typical football match have been left behind,

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including, he's sad to say, those at his own beloved club.

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Well, I've just bought this pie priced at £3.20.

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Is it good value? Not really.

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For the family with children, a man, his wife, two kids,

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it's a lot of money.

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Like some other teams, Bradford buys its pies in.

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Pre-made and at £3.20 each,

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Kevin thinks they're, hardly top of the table.

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Quite frankly, it's not just the size of the pie.

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It's expensive.

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It's poor quality and it's just really not acceptable.

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So how does Kevin's Bradford City pie compare to pies at other clubs?

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Well, in 2014, BBC Sport created a league table of the cheapest

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and the priciest pies in the 92 top flight clubs in English football.

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Leading the way for cheap pies is Rochdale,

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Bradford's League 1 rivals -

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with a pie costing just £2.

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Burnley and Chelsea have the cheapest pies in the top division

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of English football, the Premier League, where a pie is £2.50.

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The most expensive pie in the top four leagues,

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that's Brighton and Hove Albion in England's second tier,

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the Championship, where a pie costs a princely £4.10.

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But theirs are handmade, award-winning pies -

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and as such, are considered by many to be worth every penny.

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As for Bradford... Well, they're languishing in equal 59th place,

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with their £3.20 pie nearly 20p above the average price of £3.03.

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Of course, who's top of the league isn't just about price,

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it's also about quality and flavour.

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Even though the cost of pies across British grounds is often

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quite similar around the three to 3.50 mark,

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there's, unfortunately, a drastic difference between our highest-rated

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and lowest-rated pies.

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Some of them really do have that quality ingredient.

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They're well cooked, they're cooked on site,

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whereas others, it seems like the pie is just an afterthought.

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It can be lacking in filling. It can fall apart upon eating it,

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Sometimes it's not even cooked properly or it's been heated

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too long and it's dry and therefore very unenjoyable.

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Kevin would be happy to pay more for a pie he enjoyed. So, where

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other than Brighton could he find one that's a high-scorer when it comes to taste?

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Well, help is at hand because every year,

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the British Pie Awards honour the best pie in football -

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and twice in recent years -

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including in 2014 - that's been won by Morecambe FC.

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So, Kevin's taken an awayday to find out what makes these pies such a strong contender.

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Graham Aimson is chief pie-maker at Morecambe.

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To the outsider, many people would say,

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"What's the big deal about pies?"

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But there is a big deal, isn't there?

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It's massive - pies and football are like bread and butter.

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The two things you go to a match for is the football first and the pie second.

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You can't guarantee the football, but we will guarantee you'll have a great day with the pie.

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At every home match, Graham and two other kitchen staff turn out

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more than 1,000 pies in four different varieties.

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And with just over 2,000 people attending each game, that's means

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a mighty 50% of them will tuck into one of those award-winning beauties.

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Now then, Kevin, welcome to the kitchen.

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Everyone who comes in gets a nice blue apron.

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So if you pop that on... We've got this lovely machine here.

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Put the pie into there, remove our fingers, two tonnes of pressure

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from that, so it'll flatten your fingers which is no good.

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And then we just pull the whole thing down like that,

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right to the very bottom.

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You'll see the excess pastry fall over, so we get a good lining,

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and that's basically a base.

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At £3 a pie, Morecambe came joint 31st in our pricey

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pie table - pretty much bang on the average for all league clubs.

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But it's still 20p cheaper than the pies at Kevin's beloved

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Bradford City.

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Bradford City as a club means a lot to me,

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but the pies don't, quite frankly.

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I'd like to know what Bradford can do as a club

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to improve and perhaps reach your standards.

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Not just Bradford but a lot of clubs should be looking at doing is

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talking to their suppliers

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and saying how they can make that pie into a better product.

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There's an awful lot of sales they're missing out on then

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because of a lower quality product.

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It gives the fans as though they're getting good value for money.

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I would imagine, uh, it enhances people wanting to come to Morecombe Football Club.

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We've had e-mails from Holland and Texas saying how good the food is.

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And we've had people come from Europe to try the pies.

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And when we hear of fans saying,

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"We've come for the football, but more importantly, for the pie,"

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that brings it home that we're doing the right thing.

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So that raises the question -

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how can one club produce an award-winning pie by hand

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for less than other clubs charge for one that's mass produced?

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Bradford City doesn't set the price of its pies.

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That's done by a company called Centreplate which handles all

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the catering at the stadium.

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When we spoke to the company, it told us it's...

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..from the club's supporters.

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But it said in light of the points Kevin has raised,

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it now plans to re-evaluate its pie offering.

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But could what Kevin's seen and tasted be enough to convince

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him to come back and support Morecambe a bit more often?

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It's been a brilliant day and this pie is absolutely fantastic.

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Is it good enough to make me change allegiances?

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Maybe not quite, but I tell you what, it came very, very close.

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Here at Rip-Off Britain, we're always ready to investigate

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more of your stories on any subject.

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Are you confused over your bills, or just trying to wade through

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never-ending small print?

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It's very frustrating because it makes what should be

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a quite simple job a lot more complicated.

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And I think some people just give up, so they don't get the best deal.

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Maybe you're unsure what to do when you discover you've lost out

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and that so-called "great deal" has ended up costing you money.

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People are buying into this - I did, you know.

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And are they going to be as awkward with them as they were with me?

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You might have a cautionary tale of your own

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and want to share the mistakes you made with us.

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It upsets me an awful lot because, you know, I'm retired

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and I begrudge having to pay that kind of money out.

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That's just about it from us for today, but you can find out more

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By the way, not just food-related, but anything you spend your money on

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and we'll keep on investigating whether those promises

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and the prices really do stack up.

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And it's on that note that I'm afraid we have to leave it for now.

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Thanks to everyone who's helped us with our stories today

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and of course to you for joining us.

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We will see you again on Rip-Off Britain very soon,

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