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SIREN WAILS

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This programme contains scenes which some viewers may find upsetting and some strong language

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DOG BARKS

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# You can run on for a long time

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# Run on for a long time

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# You can run on for a long time... #

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I believe in good and evil.

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I believe it exists in this world.

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# Sooner or later God'll cut you down

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# Go tell that long-tongue liar... #

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I'm not going to lay down and not let my vote mean something.

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My ancestors died for me to have the right to vote.

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And we're going to have law and order.

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CHEERING

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# Goodness gracious Let me tell you the news... #

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We have to enforce the laws of the state of Florida,

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and our laws say we have to be tough.

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I don't care what caused you to do it -

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you can't run around stabbing people.

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Some people do belong behind bars,

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and I will not apologise for putting them there.

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# Great God almighty Here's what he said

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# Go tell that long-tongue liar

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# Go and tell that midnight rider

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# Tell the rambler, the gambler, the back-biter

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# Tell them that God's gonna cut them down

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# You can throw your rock

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# Hide your hand

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# Work in the dark against your fellow man

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# But as sure as God made the black and white

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# What's done in the dark will be brought to the light... #

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Some believe the criminal justice system is in need of serious reform,

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and that racial tensions are at historic highs,

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so, do you believe that there's a need for criminal justice reform

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nationally and locally, and if not, why not?

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In three weeks, Jacksonville elects its next state attorney.

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Our law enforcement officers are the symbol of authority on the street,

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and they must be obeyed.

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They must be obeyed because they are here to protect

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every single one of us.

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But, mid-campaign, attention switches to a series of shootings

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across America.

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It starts with two black men being killed by police in two days...

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-GUNSHOTS

-You shot four bullets into him, sir.

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I told him not to reach for it!

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I told him to get his hands up!

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..and culminates with retaliations against police in Dallas.

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Five officers were killed and seven wounded in the attack at a downtown

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Dallas protest over the recent killings by police of black men

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in Louisiana and Minnesota.

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Black lives matter!

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Protests erupt across the country...

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Black lives matter!

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..and hit Jacksonville at the same time as the presidential election.

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And we're going to respect our police,

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because you have to respect our police,

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and we're not going to shoot our police.

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-CHEERING

-We're not shooting our police,

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and we're going to have law and order.

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YELLING

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Just stop! You're a xenophobe! You're a racist!

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You're the racists! You're the racists!

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Hey hey, ho ho, these racist bastards got to go.

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Hey hey, ho ho, these racist bastards got to go.

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Build that wall! Build that wall! Build that wall!

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We're going to make our country safe again.

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We're going to make our country great again,

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as sure as you're standing here.

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Thank you. Thank you, Jacksonville.

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SIRENS WAIL

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Hello?

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A mass shooting at Eureka Gardens last night

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left seven people wounded.

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Police are reviewing security footage, hoping it will help

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lead them to three gunmen who fired 50 rounds into

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a group of people last night.

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Eureka Gardens is a poor, predominantly black housing complex

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in the west of Jacksonville.

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These tenants are naturally very distraught.

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You can understand why.

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We have been here all morning.

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A group of at least eight people were outside -

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one of them is a baby -

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when three men walked up to them and started shooting.

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They fired at least 50 rounds.

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And which apartment was it they hit? 105 or 106?

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105?

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Detectives from Jacksonville Sheriff's Office arrive at the scene

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of last night's mass shooting.

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This is where the eight partiers...

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People were hanging out on the patio, having beers and relaxing,

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when the gunfire started?

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Yes. Yes. This part takes a strike here...

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Seven people were injured in the attack -

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two are fighting for their lives.

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One of the male victims was standing up in the vicinity of this area.

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He and several other victims fled inside the apartment complex

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as they were getting shot.

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-They got hit in the neck, and that's what all that blood is?

-Yes.

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DOG BARKS

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And the 15-month-old and two-week-old were out front when

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the shooting started, and no kids were hit?

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No kids were hit.

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Lucky.

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Don't take this wrong... Have you ever been shot at before?

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Nope, never have...

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One of the group, who was shot at, is still at the scene.

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-The boys were standing out here on the grass.

-On the grass, mm-hmm.

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The girls were standing back there...

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and then...and then we heard "pow pow".

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So, I'm just happy to be alive.

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-You know how lucky you are, right?

-Yeah.

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I hope they get shot like they did us.

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I think it's fair.

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I think they should be prosecuted to the fullest effect.

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OK.

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While detectives hunt for witnesses,

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a prosecutor from the State Attorney's Office, London Kite,

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is assigned to the case.

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In order for me to feel confident,

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you need strong physical evidence and solid eyewitnesses.

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However, Eureka Gardens has had this, kind of, continuing, um...

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kind of battle with the police.

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They are a tight-knit community.

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Then, when they have problems, they shun law-enforcement,

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and then they try to take care of the problem themselves -

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that's been my experience with them.

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London is briefed by detectives who've returned from the scene.

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There were seven victims that were bullet to bone.

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Two of them are life-threatening.

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The female is expected to...

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probably have the plug pulled on her today, is that correct?

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Yes. Just to bring London up to speed...

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From the evidence, London, at the scene, we have...

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On the corner, shooting across the parking lot,

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we have some 50 or so rounds of three different calibres.

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Two rifles and one pistol.

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Where does the video come from?

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They're coming from inside the complex.

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They have video cameras?

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Security cameras inside the complex.

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You have the building across the street.

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They come from this direction on foot, post up right here,

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and shoot, just like that. So, what, 40 yards?

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They go down that sidewalk,

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and, by the time they turned around and came back,

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it's between three and five seconds.

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So, it's not like they stopped to see what their best angle was,

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took a position of fire... No.

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They walked down the sidewalk, let all their rounds go

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and walked...ran right back.

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The surveillance footage not only shows the suspects -

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it also shows that there are witnesses.

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There's two eyewitnesses,

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because, when the suspects are running back, you can see...

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You can't see the person, but he's upstairs on the balcony.

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You see him flick a cigarette.

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So, we've just got to track those guys down.

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'We need witnesses.

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'Witnesses are one of the most important parts

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'of a criminal trial.'

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-So...

-They're hiding on this corner.

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They're coming on this corner.

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We have a witness sitting upstairs on 68.

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'But there's a significant history of distrust between

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'the community and law-enforcement,

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'because law enforcement don't look like them.'

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DOG BARKS

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Of the 12 homicide lawyers working in the State Attorney's Office,

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London is the only African-American.

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When I was growing up, I experienced racism.

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I've been followed in stores just because I was a young black female.

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My life experiences have given me a little bit more insight

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into how that community operates.

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You know, maybe a white prosecutor doesn't understand that

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as, um, personally as I do.

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-PHONE:

-The subscriber you have dialled is not in service.

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The hardest thing that we have to do is get our witnesses to show up.

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Prosecutor Alan Mizrahi's next case goes to trial in a week.

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PHONE RINGS

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(Ridiculous...)

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It's a murder that took place in a strip club.

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-PHONE:

-You have reached the voicemail box of 90...

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Despite happening in front of 300 people,

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Alan is struggling to get anyone to testify in court.

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It is an old-school case.

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We are not relying upon DNA, fingerprints, surveillance videos -

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things that in the 21st century we rely upon regularly.

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In this case, we're relying upon the statements of eyewitnesses.

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The victim, 23-year-old Brandon Green,

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was celebrating a friend's birthday in a strip club called Mascara's.

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One of his group had an altercation and, in the argument that followed,

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Brandon was shot in the head.

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Brandon Green being murdered in a strip club is very unfortunate,

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because people were drinking, and because people...

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sometimes they go to those clubs in the middle of the night,

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are not friends of law enforcement,

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and they do not trust law enforcement

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as much as people that may attend church on a Sunday morning,

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and, because of that dynamic,

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it makes it even more difficult to make sure that these people will

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come to court, will testify and will be truthful.

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Alan is meeting Brandon Green's parents

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to prepare them for the trial.

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In virtually every case that I've had where I sit down

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as a white prosecutor and I sit across from a black family,

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I would say, at the initial meetings,

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there is always a level of guardedness.

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There is an apprehension

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that the system is going to work for that victim.

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In terms of murder cases,

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it's not terrible. It's not terrible, OK?

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I'm not going in, "Oh, my God, I've got no chance."

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But we have no physical... We have no gun, no DNA...

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So, it's probably a little below average

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and that's just where the shooting took place.

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I don't lose murder cases, but I have.

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I mean, so, like... It happens.

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And, if it happens, he was put on trial for the murder,

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which is a lot more than a lot of victims' families ever get.

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Because a lot of victims' families, um, they never know

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who killed their loved one.

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So, in this case, we've charged him and we'll put him through trial,

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and we have to have some level of comfort knowing that

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justice will be served just by putting him through the trial,

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and that it was public...

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I hear you.

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'This is something that these parents have waited for

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'since they got that horrendous call on September 8th, 2013,

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'and found out their boy was dead,'

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and this is the culmination of

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society's judgment on what happened to their son.

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You know, victims, I think they struggle with the process

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cos they're so powerless.

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They have no control over the jury,

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they have no control over the evidence and they've lost their son.

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When I lay down and I close my eyes

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and I try to picture Brandon lying there,

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shaking and fighting for his life,

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it's just...

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It's just so unreal... I just...

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I just can't believe it. I just can't believe it.

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HARRIET SNIFFLES

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And, you know, after he got shot,

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and everybody was running out of the club...

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..I asked his friend, I say, "Were anybody stepping on my baby?"

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"Were anybody stepping on him?"

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SHE SNIFFLES

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And I always want to ask details

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about what he was doing, about...

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"Were his eyes closed or were he talking

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"or were he begging for his life?"

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But I never got the courage to ask him that,

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and I don't think he will share that with me.

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And I don't think he'll share it with me.

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Brandon got a little girl.

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She wasn't even one year old when he died,

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so, you know, he ever had the opportunity to show what kind of

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father he could have been.

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You know, I mean, he loved his kid, man.

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He loved his children, man.

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Yeah, I know he would've been a good father.

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The struggle to find witnesses means Brandon's family has been forced to

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wait nearly three years for the case to come to trial.

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So, we knew from day one.

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You know, they know from day one who had killed him,

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but they took six months to bring him to justice.

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You know what I mean? To get a warrant to arrest the guy.

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So, when they got him, you know,

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we've been going through this over two and a half years now.

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It's so much time-consuming, and, you know,

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and, for the family of the victim,

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you have to relive this every time you go to court.

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You know what I mean?

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You've got to look at this guy, knowing this guy killed your son.

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That there is the hardest part for me.

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The man accused of Brandon's murder has been in jail since his arrest

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two and a half years ago.

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His name is Lenard Anderson.

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I think about the victim's family from time to time,

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and I sympathise what they're going through,

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and I understand that, you know, that they're seeking justice,

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but I also know that they have the wrong guy.

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I did not commit this crime.

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I did not commit any wrongly activity.

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I feel that justice is not blind here

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for the simple fact of the colour of my skin.

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People my colour are forced into trial,

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forced to take pleas that they don't want to accept.

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Justice is the truth,

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not going after a person

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according to their characteristics or the colour of their skin.

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The State Attorney's Office, they don't uphold the law,

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they take the law into their own hands.

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They do things their way here,

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so there's no justice here, especially for people of my colour.

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No, sir, I don't believe so.

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It's been 24 hours since

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the mass shooting at Eureka Gardens.

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Two of the victims are critical in hospital.

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So, let's get right to it.

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-Travis, will you update everybody?

-OK.

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There was a total of seven victims shot.

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Jessica Nelson, who was the homeowner at 105, 1214 Labelle.

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She has the most severe injuries.

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At some point yesterday, she was touch-and-go on whether or not

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she was going to survive, because of her internal injuries.

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She is going to be dialysis this morning.

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Despite surveillance footage showing there were witnesses,

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no-one has come forward.

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So detectives return to Eureka Gardens to step up the hunt.

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Some people view police officers, really, as the ultimate enemy.

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You know, this guy could've killed this person, but...

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and that person's related to you,

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but I'm not going to go to the police, even if I saw it,

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because that's worse than anything.

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That whole dynamic is really...

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I guess it's the whole "us and them", and that needs to change,

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because policemen, without co-operation in a neighbourhood,

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we're not very effective.

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Sheriff's Office!

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DOG BARKS

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Hello?

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There we go. Hey.

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Hey, Mister.

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-Step out on, sir.

-There's nobody else home.

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-Give me ID, man.

-I ain't got no ID.

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I hold you as a material witness on this crime,

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so don't give me no lip-service, please.

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I'm not here to play around.

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I'm here to do my job. You understand that?

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I ain't like these guys you talked to before,

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I'm one of these guys who ain't going to come here

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and understand that lip-service.

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You understand me? Do you understand me?

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Cos if you ain't got your ID, and you ain't got your ID,

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we ride downtown and I'll figure out who you are with fingerprints.

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You feel me?

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-Sir? Sir, you understand that?

-You already know my name.

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I don't know you. I ain't never met you.

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-Do you know my name?

-You know my name.

-Do you know my name?

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Do you know my name? If you don't know my name, I don't know yours.

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I could ride you downtown.

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I've got this support that's backing me up on that.

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-You understand that?

-Yes, sir.

-All right, so let's keep it cool.

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Don't give me none of this.

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All right. Well, dude, keep your hands up,

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and just keep your mouth shut. Hands up, mouth shut.

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I generally think that most police officers that, you know,

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go in those neighbourhoods are trying to do the very best

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with the worst set of circumstances.

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A lot of times it's frustration, because they are going through

0:20:100:20:13

this horrible incident.

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They've got somebody stabbed or they've got somebody shot,

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and they're just frustrated with the whole, like,

0:20:170:20:19

process of it all.

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Look at me, cos I want to promise you something, OK?

0:20:200:20:22

This isn't a threat or anything else.

0:20:220:20:24

Citizens of Jacksonville, this apartment complex,

0:20:240:20:27

the businessmen, the clergy, the mayor, the sheriff,

0:20:270:20:30

are all tired of this violence.

0:20:300:20:31

-That's why I said that...

-So what I'm saying is -

0:20:310:20:34

don't be a part of the problem, be a part of the solution.

0:20:340:20:37

When you're dealing with the police, it's their way or no way.

0:20:410:20:45

They treat us like nothing, so we've no type of respect for them.

0:20:470:20:51

He's not, but be respectful, because he's earned that badge.

0:20:510:20:54

They always get frustrated, but...

0:20:540:20:57

there ain't nothing they can really do about it

0:20:570:20:59

besides abuse their authority.

0:20:590:21:01

It's worse every time they come.

0:21:010:21:03

When they don't get what they want, it's worse.

0:21:030:21:06

It's really worse.

0:21:060:21:08

All right. You see some bad things, you call the police.

0:21:080:21:11

You got me? All right.

0:21:110:21:12

No witnesses are found and detectives are running out of leads.

0:21:120:21:17

22-year-old Vernell Bing has died after being shot by police

0:21:200:21:23

in Springfield.

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It started with a pursuit, yet ended with a crash and gunfire.

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A shooting puts the Sheriff's Office in Jacksonville

0:21:280:21:32

at the centre of a new storm.

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Check out this video from our scene last night. Take a look.

0:21:340:21:37

Now, JSO says the man was still in the car

0:21:370:21:39

ignoring the officer's commands, then got out of the car

0:21:390:21:43

and was trying to get away when the officer shot him in the back.

0:21:430:21:46

22-year-old Vernell Bing was shot dead after crashing his car

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into police following a pursuit.

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The car he was driving had been involved

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in a shooting the previous month.

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APPLAUSE

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OK, people will tell us folks it's all right, but it's not all right.

0:22:070:22:10

No, it's not all right for young, unarmed black men to be shot down.

0:22:100:22:14

Not by one another, and certainly not by JSO.

0:22:170:22:21

No, it's not all right!

0:22:240:22:25

The sad commentary is this -

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nobody knew what this young man was when he was shot.

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But we did know that he was a black man.

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Yeah!

0:22:400:22:41

APPLAUSE

0:22:410:22:43

WOMAN CRYING

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SHE WAILS AND SCREAMS

0:22:560:22:58

I'm just sick of it. I'm sick of it.

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I'm just sick of it.

0:23:050:23:06

I'm tired.

0:23:060:23:08

I'm sick and tired of coming to black funerals in this city,

0:23:080:23:12

and our young black men being killed,

0:23:120:23:15

and I'm sick of the police brutality.

0:23:150:23:17

I'm sick of it, and we demand justice.

0:23:170:23:19

I'm tired of it.

0:23:190:23:20

The police haven't even been charged,

0:23:200:23:22

haven't been investigated,

0:23:220:23:24

had nothing been done, and this boy is dead.

0:23:240:23:27

This is another black young man dead.

0:23:270:23:29

No accountability.

0:23:290:23:31

There's no respect for black life in this city.

0:23:320:23:34

An investigation into Bing's death is launched

0:23:370:23:40

by Jacksonville Sheriff's Office.

0:23:400:23:42

An investigation of any type of shooting,

0:23:460:23:48

whether it's by a citizen or a law enforcement officer,

0:23:480:23:50

is a long and detailed investigation, and I won't see

0:23:500:23:55

the results until everything is in,

0:23:550:23:57

as to whether it was justifiable use of deadly force.

0:23:570:24:00

The question that has to be asked is,

0:24:030:24:04

are we working to hold our officers accountable for their actions?

0:24:040:24:08

And the answer to that is yes.

0:24:080:24:10

But will I violate the law in an effort to rush to judgment?

0:24:100:24:13

I can't and I won't.

0:24:130:24:15

Our community deserves the truth and nothing but the truth.

0:24:150:24:18

I know that trust begins with having a law enforcement agency

0:24:200:24:23

we can all have faith in and be proud of.

0:24:230:24:25

That's how trust is built and that's how transparency is fostered.

0:24:250:24:29

He said, "Our community deserves the truth and nothing but the truth."

0:24:290:24:34

-What truth is he talking?

-Exactly.

0:24:340:24:36

The truth is, you shot down and killed an unarmed black man.

0:24:360:24:41

This is not the first time - that's the truth.

0:24:410:24:44

Why didn't you say that?

0:24:440:24:46

In the last ten years,

0:24:470:24:49

45 black men have been shot dead by police in Jacksonville.

0:24:490:24:53

Each incident has been investigated.

0:24:560:24:59

No officer has ever been prosecuted.

0:24:590:25:01

Sometimes, the officers are justified.

0:25:020:25:05

If he was not complying, you don't have to sit there and wait to die.

0:25:050:25:09

If a person is coming at you, with their hands hidden,

0:25:090:25:13

you don't have to wait until they pull the gun and pull the trigger

0:25:130:25:16

for you to do something about it.

0:25:160:25:18

You know, people are stirring up raw emotions sometimes, um,

0:25:180:25:23

that have a real, long-lasting, detrimental effect on

0:25:230:25:29

how law enforcement and the community deals with each other.

0:25:290:25:33

I'm planning on calling you and Gerald.

0:25:370:25:40

-'OK.'

-OK, so I'll need... We're going to meet...

0:25:400:25:42

I'm going to need to meet with Twan, Devondro, Gerald...

0:25:420:25:46

It's two days until the trial of Lenard Anderson,

0:25:460:25:49

accused of murdering Brandon Green in a strip club.

0:25:490:25:52

-'Yes, sir.'

-All right, so just stay in touch,

0:25:520:25:54

I'll look forward to hearing from you tomorrow, OK?

0:25:540:25:56

Prosecutor Alan Mizrahi is now threatening to use court orders

0:25:560:26:00

to force witnesses to testify.

0:26:000:26:03

That was Cornelius Toliver -

0:26:030:26:05

he's one of the witnesses in the case.

0:26:050:26:08

He, er...

0:26:080:26:09

He was part of the victim's group that was at the club.

0:26:090:26:12

He did not see the shooting,

0:26:120:26:13

but is friends with all of the people that were there.

0:26:130:26:16

Cornelius Toliver is one of the few who's volunteered to testify

0:26:180:26:22

and is helping Alan by trying to persuade others to come forward.

0:26:220:26:27

In order to get a conviction in the case,

0:26:270:26:29

these people have to come to court

0:26:290:26:32

and give their testimony in front of a defendant,

0:26:320:26:35

but it's incredibly difficult.

0:26:350:26:37

There's a saying that "snitches get stitches",

0:26:400:26:43

and people that are cooperating with the state of Florida

0:26:430:26:46

potentially has the danger of some retaliation against them.

0:26:460:26:49

Cornelius still lives and works in the community

0:26:540:26:58

where he and Brandon grew up.

0:26:580:26:59

I get butterflies in my stomach sometimes...

0:27:570:27:59

..because I think, "Oh, my God,

0:28:020:28:05

"will he be found not guilty?"

0:28:050:28:06

I just don't want them to find him not guilty,

0:28:100:28:12

and then he'll get off and go and kill again.

0:28:120:28:15

Lenard Anderson very well could walk away a free man, absolutely.

0:28:190:28:22

The percentages tell us that. We sometimes lose cases,

0:28:240:28:27

and we sometimes lose cases that are a lot better than this case.

0:28:270:28:31

It's certainly something that I'm aware of

0:28:310:28:34

and certainly the family will be aware of.

0:28:340:28:36

The trial starts with the prosecution.

0:28:520:28:55

Alan Mizrahi and his co-counsel begin their case by calling

0:28:550:28:59

Cornelius Toliver, and the rest of Brandon's friends,

0:28:590:29:03

to describe what they saw the night he died.

0:29:030:29:05

With no physical evidence,

0:29:070:29:09

the whole of Alan's case rests on their testimony.

0:29:090:29:12

Can you tell the jury why you're here?

0:29:150:29:17

Because a very close friend of mine was murdered in a nightclub.

0:29:170:29:22

Were you an eyewitness to that?

0:29:220:29:25

Yes, sir.

0:29:250:29:26

And who is that close friend of yours?

0:29:260:29:28

His name was Brandon Green.

0:29:280:29:30

I want to take you to the night of September 7th, 2013.

0:29:300:29:34

Can you tell the jury what you were doing?

0:29:340:29:36

Uh, in Mascara's, celebrating my cousin's birthday.

0:29:360:29:39

I walked to the bar, um,

0:29:400:29:43

I slipped past the dude and got behind him,

0:29:430:29:45

and ordered my bottle of water,

0:29:450:29:48

and, as I'm walking off, I accidentally bump him.

0:29:480:29:51

I'm thinking, "No problems."

0:29:510:29:53

I turn to him and I say, "My bad," you know,

0:29:530:29:56

"I'm sorry," and walk off and think nothing of it.

0:29:560:29:59

Devondro came back, and he was chill for a second,

0:30:000:30:03

but then, like, a couple of minutes after that,

0:30:030:30:06

I seen a guy come follow him over there.

0:30:060:30:10

He has on a red Kangol hat.

0:30:110:30:14

It looked like a fisherman Kangol hat.

0:30:140:30:17

I called it, like, an LL Cool J hat, like,

0:30:170:30:19

cos, like, that's what he used to wear back in the day.

0:30:190:30:22

I asked him, "Hey, what's going on, man? Everything is OK?

0:30:240:30:28

"Everything good?"

0:30:280:30:30

He's like, "Yeah, everything's good. Who you with?"

0:30:300:30:33

And he had his hand down by his belt, and he was holding

0:30:330:30:36

his gun outside his belt.

0:30:360:30:38

And then, I looked back, he'd upped the gun.

0:30:390:30:43

What did you think was going to happen?

0:30:430:30:46

He was going to shoot all of us.

0:30:460:30:47

At that point, I froze up. I couldn't move.

0:30:480:30:52

He shot it one time, boom,

0:30:520:30:54

and then everything scattered, everything went mayhem...

0:30:540:30:58

Everybody's scrambling and running, trying to...trying to get out,

0:30:580:31:02

and I see someone laying on the floor in the section that we had,

0:31:020:31:07

and I go over there...

0:31:070:31:09

HE CLEARS HIS THROAT

0:31:090:31:11

I go over there and I...

0:31:130:31:15

and I see it's Brandon Green.

0:31:150:31:17

I mean...

0:31:190:31:22

he got hit right in the face, so it was like the head was, like,

0:31:220:31:27

open, and there was blood everywhere.

0:31:270:31:30

At that, I get up off the ground

0:31:320:31:36

and jump up.

0:31:360:31:38

My cousin Cornelius, he comes running back to us, like,

0:31:380:31:42

"What's going on? What's going on? What's up?"

0:31:420:31:44

Did Brandon Rivers say anything to you?

0:31:440:31:48

Oh, he was pointing at the guy there.

0:31:480:31:49

He told me, he said, "That guy right there just shot BG."

0:31:490:31:52

I'm like, "Bro, Cuz, that's him right there.

0:31:520:31:53

"That's him right there, in the red Kangol hat,

0:31:530:31:55

"moving through the crowd. That's him."

0:31:550:31:57

And what did that person look like, that you saw?

0:31:570:31:59

I'd say a little bigger than me, probably a little lighter.

0:31:590:32:01

He was wearing a red hat.

0:32:010:32:03

Are you able to identify the person that you saw murder your friend?

0:32:030:32:09

Yes, sir, he's sitting over there.

0:32:090:32:13

He's sitting over there.

0:32:130:32:15

Thank you. That's all the questions I have, Your Honour.

0:32:150:32:18

Thank you. Cross-examination.

0:32:180:32:20

Lenard Anderson's defence is that the state's witnesses

0:32:200:32:24

are unreliable, and he is the victim of mistaken identity.

0:32:240:32:29

People always talk about defence attorneys punching...trying to punch

0:32:290:32:32

holes into the state's case,

0:32:320:32:34

'and that's true - that's what we do.'

0:32:340:32:36

Mr Toliver, have you been previously convicted of a felony?

0:32:360:32:40

-Yes, I have.

-How many times?

0:32:400:32:42

HE CLEARS HIS THROAT

0:32:420:32:44

Numerous times.

0:32:450:32:47

At least seven felony convictions, would you agree, sir?

0:32:470:32:50

I would agree.

0:32:520:32:53

'Defence attorneys will push every advantage they can.

0:32:550:32:59

'Their goal is to undermine the credibility of every witness that'

0:33:000:33:03

provides information that implicates their client.

0:33:030:33:07

Did you have a cellphone on you?

0:33:070:33:09

-Did I have a cellphone?

-Yeah.

-Yeah, I had a cellphone.

0:33:090:33:11

Did you call 911?

0:33:110:33:14

Um, no.

0:33:140:33:16

Did you call the police?

0:33:160:33:17

I was just trying to get home.

0:33:180:33:21

You said you did not call the police when you got outside?

0:33:210:33:23

MANS COUGHS

0:33:230:33:25

No.

0:33:250:33:26

You didn't call them when you got home?

0:33:260:33:29

No.

0:33:290:33:30

'I don't think the jury's really going to like

0:33:310:33:34

'who the victim was hanging with,'

0:33:340:33:36

and I think that the jury's going to think

0:33:360:33:39

that they are bad people.

0:33:390:33:42

If you put a nun next to a prisoner wearing a green jumpsuit,

0:33:440:33:49

and they told you the same story, you're going to believe the nun,

0:33:490:33:52

and that's just the normal biases of jurors,

0:33:520:33:55

and, obviously, those biases are based somewhat in reality.

0:33:550:33:58

'I was angry at a lot of his buddies that he went to

0:34:020:34:04

'the club with that night,

0:34:040:34:06

'because, after Brandon's murder,'

0:34:060:34:09

they was hiding a lot of details, you know?

0:34:090:34:12

They knew exactly what happened and nobody was telling nothing.

0:34:120:34:16

You know, a lot of them had warrants on them, but my son is dead,

0:34:170:34:21

and y'all are worried about going to jail for a week

0:34:210:34:24

instead of helping me catch his killer.

0:34:240:34:26

The defence has one more piece of evidence

0:34:300:34:32

to use against witness Cornelius Toliver.

0:34:320:34:35

So, you had a weapon with you inside Mascara's?

0:34:350:34:37

Yes, ma'am.

0:34:370:34:38

Where did you put it on your person?

0:34:380:34:40

I ran out of the club with it in my hand.

0:34:400:34:43

Why didn't you go to your car,

0:34:430:34:44

which is the one that you said you drove down with?

0:34:440:34:47

Because nine times out of ten, I know my wife,

0:34:470:34:49

she were out with her gun.

0:34:490:34:51

-But you already had a gun on you, correct?

-It wasn't big enough.

0:34:510:34:54

I was going to chase the guy my cuz had pointed at.

0:34:560:34:59

And what were you going to do?

0:34:590:35:01

An eye for an eye.

0:35:010:35:03

-I'm sorry?

-An eye for an eye.

0:35:030:35:05

No further questions at this time, Your Honour.

0:35:070:35:10

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,

0:35:100:35:11

I'm going to excuse you for the evening.

0:35:110:35:13

This will be your evening recess.

0:35:130:35:15

I hope you have a peaceful and restful evening,

0:35:150:35:17

and we'll see you tomorrow morning at 9am. Thank you.

0:35:170:35:19

People know what he did, you know what I mean?

0:35:240:35:26

But it's just like...

0:35:260:35:27

It's not what you know, it's what you can prove, you know what I mean?

0:35:270:35:30

You know, Alan's trying to do his best, but, you know,

0:35:300:35:34

I see what the defence are trying to do is put in reasonable doubt.

0:35:340:35:38

And she...and the defence attorney's doing a good job doing it.

0:35:380:35:43

You know, but whether the, you know, people believe in them or not,

0:35:430:35:46

yeah, that's another thing.

0:35:460:35:47

It's been a week since the mass shooting in Eureka Gardens

0:35:580:36:01

and detectives are still struggling.

0:36:010:36:03

The local community is afraid of retribution,

0:36:030:36:07

so they're calling people directly, to persuade them to speak.

0:36:070:36:10

I totally understand that,

0:36:100:36:12

and that is the reason why, if you get in your car

0:36:120:36:15

and come to the police station, nobody in that apartment complex

0:36:150:36:18

knows where you are or where you're going.

0:36:180:36:20

They've failed to finds the witnesses

0:36:200:36:22

in the surveillance footage, but now think a resident has information

0:36:220:36:26

about the motive for the attack.

0:36:260:36:28

There's no way around it.

0:36:280:36:30

Nobody wants to be in the predicament they're in.

0:36:300:36:32

We have seven people that were shot.

0:36:320:36:33

I bet you can't talk to one of them that says,

0:36:330:36:35

"Hey, I wanted to be shot."

0:36:350:36:37

So, how do you want to do it?

0:36:390:36:40

Do you want me to send some cars to your house? Do you want to get

0:36:400:36:43

in your car and come down here? How do you want to do it?

0:36:430:36:45

VOICE ON THE LINE

0:36:450:36:47

All right, drive safe.

0:36:470:36:48

HE EXHALES

0:36:530:36:55

Defying expectations,

0:37:050:37:07

the most seriously injured victim of the attack, Jessica Nelson,

0:37:070:37:11

has pulled through.

0:37:110:37:14

She was shot four times, and has lost a kidney and half her pancreas.

0:37:140:37:18

One bullet is still lodged in her chest.

0:37:200:37:23

Her husband John was the person who rang 911.

0:37:240:37:28

-'Sir, who got shot?

-Come on! My wife, my baby!

0:37:280:37:32

'Get here! Get here, now!

0:37:320:37:36

We have help on the way to you. Who shot them?

0:37:360:37:39

-'Get here now! Get here now!'

-HE SCREAMS AND CRIES

0:37:390:37:42

They're making an appeal for witnesses to come forward.

0:37:440:37:47

What was the worst thing for you, in that moment?

0:37:470:37:50

I really didn't think that I would ever see my family again.

0:37:520:37:57

I know JSO hasn't caught these guys.

0:38:030:38:05

They said they had surveillance video.

0:38:050:38:08

Are you angry that this hasn't been resolved yet?

0:38:080:38:12

I'm really disappointed that it hasn't.

0:38:130:38:17

I can't be angry, but I am disappointed.

0:38:170:38:20

People like that shouldn't be around,

0:38:220:38:25

so it's very important to me that they get found.

0:38:250:38:30

Detectives may have a breakthrough -

0:38:390:38:41

a possible name for the intended target of the shooting.

0:38:410:38:44

We've had someone tell us that one of our potential witnesses

0:38:440:38:48

is out there at 173 Eureka Garden Apartments,

0:38:480:38:52

a male known to us as Chico.

0:38:520:38:54

We are very certain that it's him that was getting fired on,

0:38:540:38:58

and we're going to try to get Chico to come downtown

0:38:580:39:00

and talk to us about what's going on.

0:39:000:39:03

Hey, we are in the front of the apartment complex,

0:39:030:39:08

and so we're all set, and nobody's going to lay hands on us.

0:39:080:39:11

No, all right.

0:39:110:39:13

OK, all right. OK.

0:39:130:39:16

He's walking out to us.

0:39:160:39:17

-Oliver?

-Yeah, I'm Oliver.

-I'm...

0:39:210:39:23

-Hey, do me a favour.

-Yeah?

-That brown car, where is it?

0:39:230:39:26

It's right there, right there.

0:39:260:39:27

Cool, go hop in that car there, we'll go downtown.

0:39:270:39:29

-Downtown?

-BOTH: We'll bring you back.

0:39:290:39:31

-Not...

-Nobody'll mess with you.

-We only want to talk.

0:39:310:39:33

How long will y'all have me down there?

0:39:330:39:35

We'll get you in and out as soon as we can, OK?

0:39:350:39:37

-Thank you.

-Thanks, man. Get in that car right there.

0:39:370:39:40

Detectives believe the attack may have been retaliation

0:39:450:39:48

for an earlier shooting Chico is suspected to have carried out.

0:39:480:39:51

If that is the case,

0:39:550:39:56

Chico will be able to name the suspects detectives are after.

0:39:560:40:00

'Most of the neighbourhoods do, especially Eureka Gardens...'

0:40:040:40:07

We've had... We've had actual cases, like murder cases, where, um...

0:40:070:40:12

members of that community or neighbourhood have

0:40:120:40:14

taken matters into their own hands.

0:40:140:40:17

It's a very thin line between being a victim or a defendant.

0:40:180:40:23

INAUDIBLE

0:40:250:40:27

Now, what's he telling you?

0:40:340:40:36

He's saying he knows nothing.

0:40:360:40:37

He is denying any activity or any involvement.

0:40:390:40:42

But it's kind of hard to call him a liar

0:40:430:40:45

when you don't have anything to confront him with.

0:40:450:40:47

Well, I don't think you have any reason to

0:40:490:40:52

keep him or continue to badger him, or...

0:40:520:40:55

-Yeah, I think we need to leave it like that.

-Mm-hm.

-Yeah.

0:40:550:40:59

Same place we were on day one.

0:40:590:41:00

The shooting of Vernell Bing by police ten days ago

0:41:140:41:18

continues to cause controversy.

0:41:180:41:20

Jacksonville Sheriff's Office must be held accountable

0:41:200:41:23

for their actions.

0:41:230:41:24

You have a community that's grieving, outcrying...

0:41:240:41:26

You have entire families that's in pain.

0:41:260:41:29

We're drawing a line. We're tired of it.

0:41:290:41:30

-We won't go unheard.

-DOG BARKS

0:41:300:41:32

The legal system of Jacksonville has failed the black community.

0:41:320:41:35

We're making it clear we want an indictment,

0:41:350:41:37

we want an arrest, and we want to make sure it's taken to

0:41:370:41:40

the full extent of the law.

0:41:400:41:41

Protests are planned across Jacksonville.

0:41:440:41:47

There's several Black Lives Matter or similar type of motivated groups

0:41:480:41:54

who claim they're going to show up and protest peacefully,

0:41:540:41:57

but leech groups have, kind of, latched on,

0:41:570:41:59

so we don't know what's going to show up.

0:41:590:42:01

There are some agitators in those groups, guys.

0:42:010:42:03

In the group format, they're going to try to agitate you

0:42:030:42:05

and say racial stuff, anti-police stuff... They want that attention.

0:42:050:42:09

All right, guys, be careful. Thank you.

0:42:090:42:11

Black lives matter! Black lives matter!

0:42:110:42:14

Black lives matter!

0:42:140:42:16

Black lives matter! Black lives matter!

0:42:160:42:18

Black lives matter!

0:42:180:42:21

Black lives matter! Black lives matter!

0:42:210:42:24

'There's a fundamental disconnect between law enforcement

0:42:260:42:30

'and the community it is supposed to protect.'

0:42:300:42:32

It's not OK to shoot our children,

0:42:320:42:35

and it's not OK to shoot our men,

0:42:350:42:37

and it's not OK to shoot our women.

0:42:370:42:40

We want change! We want change! We want change!

0:42:400:42:45

One can only achieve justice through the cooperation

0:42:450:42:47

and the trust of the community we are trying to seek justice for.

0:42:470:42:51

We want change! We want change! We want change!

0:42:510:42:54

I believe that this disconnect is the greatest problem

0:42:540:42:59

facing the American justice system right now.

0:42:590:43:01

The trial of Lenard Anderson is entering its third day,

0:43:070:43:12

and his defence attorney, Ann Finnell,

0:43:120:43:14

is going to present an alternative theory for how Brandon Green died.

0:43:140:43:18

She begins by analysing the evidence of the medical examiner.

0:43:210:43:25

This impact of the bullet, with its pressure wave,

0:43:270:43:30

broke the skullcap and the base of the skull -

0:43:300:43:33

that's the top and the bottom of the skull -

0:43:330:43:35

especially in the area of the right eye.

0:43:350:43:37

And then there's haemorrhage associated with this,

0:43:370:43:39

and some bruising of the brain, so he did not die immediately.

0:43:390:43:42

I mean, my argument is that, when they saw him...

0:43:440:43:47

I mean, they saw him fall, and they saw him on the ground,

0:43:470:43:50

they see a hole in the middle of his forehead

0:43:500:43:52

and they assume he was shot from the front.

0:43:520:43:55

Would...the injury you observed

0:43:550:43:59

be consistent with a shot coming from this direction?

0:43:590:44:02

From the body alone, in this case, I can't tell you where the gun was,

0:44:020:44:06

but the shot's coming from behind,

0:44:060:44:08

and it's going from his right side to his front, and slightly upward.

0:44:080:44:12

So the shot comes in here,

0:44:150:44:17

right by the temple,

0:44:170:44:18

and it comes out of the eye,

0:44:180:44:20

right by the right eye.

0:44:200:44:22

If you can imagine, it'd be like if it enters here,

0:44:240:44:29

and comes out in the middle of the head.

0:44:290:44:33

So, in order to be shot from the front, from the camera,

0:44:330:44:37

the person would have to pivot their body all the way around.

0:44:370:44:41

The reality could be that, you know,

0:44:430:44:45

the shot came from behind him and to the right,

0:44:450:44:48

which could be another member of their group,

0:44:480:44:51

it could be just somebody randomly, you know, showing off a gun,

0:44:510:44:54

and having the gun discharge.

0:44:540:44:56

You just don't know.

0:44:560:44:57

All right, sir, thank you. No further questions, Your Honour.

0:45:000:45:03

The state calls Detective Bobby Bowers.

0:45:050:45:07

Prosecutor Alan Mizrahi has one final witness.

0:45:100:45:13

Good afternoon, Detective. Please introduce yourself to the jury.

0:45:160:45:19

I'm Bobby Frank Bowers Senior.

0:45:190:45:21

What do you do for a living, sir?

0:45:210:45:22

I'm a detective with the Homicide Unit

0:45:220:45:24

at the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office.

0:45:240:45:27

Detective Bobby Bowers interviewed Lenard when he was arrested.

0:45:300:45:35

We haven't heard from you.

0:45:350:45:36

-Yes, sir.

-We don't know what you have to say about what happened.

0:45:360:45:40

-Yes, sir, I understand.

-OK?

0:45:400:45:42

Now, I didn't come here to question you if you did the shooting.

0:45:420:45:46

What I came here to talk to you about was what happened,

0:45:460:45:49

and why did it happen, and why did it get to that point?

0:45:490:45:52

Sir, I have no recognition. I wasn't there. It wasn't me.

0:45:520:45:55

Do you remember who the DJ was?

0:45:590:46:01

No, sir, I wasn't...

0:46:040:46:05

Like I say, I wasn't there, so I wouldn't know.

0:46:050:46:08

You weren't there?

0:46:080:46:09

I wasn't there. It wasn't me.

0:46:090:46:11

OK.

0:46:110:46:12

'If you in any way acted in self-defence,

0:46:170:46:21

'this would be a good time to let me know,

0:46:210:46:23

'because, down the road, when this case, if it goes to trial...

0:46:230:46:28

'Yes, sir.'

0:46:280:46:29

..and then you come forward and say,

0:46:290:46:32

' "I remember what happened," it's not going to hold much ground,

0:46:320:46:36

'when we first met and you had no recollection of the whole incident.

0:46:360:46:41

'I understand, sir.'

0:46:410:46:42

-May it please the court?

-JUDGE:

-Proceed.

0:46:490:46:51

Mr Anderson, you know that you were in the club that night, right?

0:46:510:46:55

-Yes, sir.

-You know you were present when shots rang out?

-Yes, sir.

0:46:550:46:59

-And you know you've been arrested for that case?

-Yes, sir.

-OK.

0:46:590:47:03

So, here's the thing, Mr Anderson.

0:47:030:47:06

-Yes, sir.

-You said...

0:47:060:47:09

"I wasn't there."

0:47:090:47:11

"I wasn't there, I didn't do it, you have the wrong person."

0:47:110:47:13

But that was a lie, right?

0:47:130:47:15

Well, I said, "I wasn't there, I didn't do it,

0:47:150:47:17

"you have the wrong person," which it doesn't...

0:47:170:47:19

Why don't you just answer my questions, OK?

0:47:190:47:21

I said, "I wasn't there, you have the wrong guy, I didn't do this."

0:47:210:47:25

"I wasn't there"...

0:47:250:47:27

-Yes, I said that.

-..was a lie.

0:47:270:47:30

Yes or no?

0:47:300:47:31

Yes, it was.

0:47:310:47:32

Isn't it true, Mr Anderson, that you lied to those detectives

0:47:350:47:38

because it was in your interest to lie to them, correct?

0:47:380:47:41

-No, sir, I didn't want to...

-You just lied cos you felt like it?

0:47:410:47:43

I lied cos I didn't want to be involved.

0:47:430:47:45

I didn't want to be a witness in a case

0:47:450:47:47

that I don't know nothing about.

0:47:470:47:48

OK. What are you a witness to, Mr Anderson?

0:47:480:47:51

I didn't want to be a witness to anything.

0:47:510:47:53

I understand that, but what were you a witness to?

0:47:530:47:55

You weren't a witness to anything, were you?

0:47:550:47:56

I didn't want to be a witness to anything.

0:47:560:47:58

You knew you weren't being questioned as a witness.

0:47:580:48:00

You knew you were being questioned as the defendant, as the suspect?

0:48:000:48:03

When you're picked up by detectives, you're either being arrested

0:48:030:48:07

or you have a BOLO out for a warrant for questioning,

0:48:070:48:09

so I didn't know exactly whether I'm being fully arrested

0:48:090:48:13

-for this charge.

-OK.

0:48:130:48:15

That's all the questions I have, Your Honour.

0:48:150:48:18

'Every neighbourhood I grew up in, as a youngster coming up,

0:48:230:48:27

'there was always crime.

0:48:270:48:28

'You're learning, when there's a crime, yeah, you turn your head,

0:48:280:48:31

'you don't see nothing, you don't hear nothing,

0:48:310:48:33

'you don't want to be involved,

0:48:330:48:35

'or you may be faced with those same people that committed those crimes.

0:48:350:48:39

'And then you know what happens to you when you become a snitch.'

0:48:390:48:43

They're not going to come in your door and offer you cookies.

0:48:430:48:46

They're not going to come in your door and provide you money

0:48:460:48:50

to keep you quiet. They're fittin' to come at your door

0:48:500:48:54

with...with revenge.

0:48:540:48:57

With retaliation. Some hush.

0:48:570:49:00

They're fittin' to come in your door and puttin' you to sleep forever.

0:49:000:49:02

That's what they're coming to do.

0:49:020:49:04

And that's what happens when you involve yourself

0:49:040:49:07

in things that's not your business.

0:49:070:49:08

SIREN WAILS

0:49:110:49:13

-How are we all doing?

-Good. How are you?

-Good.

0:49:200:49:23

More than a month has passed since the mass shooting at Eureka Gardens.

0:49:230:49:27

-OK, so you all are going to give me an update?

-Yes.

-OK.

0:49:270:49:30

We have now served the search warrant at 2,970 West 15th Street.

0:49:320:49:38

-Did that produce anything?

-It produced nothing, um...

0:49:380:49:43

-Nothing of value?

-Nothing of value for us.

0:49:430:49:46

Anybody else that was living there, that supposedly...

0:49:470:49:50

There was a handful of people that have been ID'd,

0:49:500:49:52

and FIR up there...

0:49:520:49:54

'I think we're really, really far away from

0:49:540:49:57

'any kind of arrest whatsoever.'

0:49:570:49:59

Um, it seems like they have a lot of investigative leads,

0:49:590:50:03

but at this point, you know, getting to the point

0:50:030:50:06

where we can make any kind of arrest is... It's far off,

0:50:060:50:09

because of the level of cooperation that everyone's not giving us.

0:50:090:50:14

'The residents that live there,

0:50:180:50:20

'they know the individuals perpetrated the crime.

0:50:200:50:23

'The problem is infiltrating in that community and getting them

0:50:240:50:30

'to trust you enough so that they know they will be protected

0:50:300:50:34

'if they do speak up and speak out.'

0:50:340:50:36

The people are scared. They're scared to talk

0:50:380:50:40

because they're scared of being victims themselves,

0:50:400:50:43

or their families becoming victims.

0:50:430:50:45

'Of course, part of me wants to say,

0:50:470:50:49

' "Oh, I'd do the right thing and I'd talk."

0:50:490:50:52

'But part of me, you know, the part of me that would think rationally'

0:50:520:50:56

would probably do the same thing they're doing.

0:50:560:51:00

Not opening my mouth.

0:51:010:51:03

It's the final day of the Lenard Anderson trial.

0:51:170:51:20

All that remains are the defence and prosecution's closing arguments.

0:51:220:51:26

Does Brandon Green even deserve justice?

0:51:310:51:34

I mean,

0:51:350:51:37

this was a den of iniquity.

0:51:370:51:40

The law doesn't care.

0:51:430:51:47

He could've been as drunk as anyone in the world,

0:51:470:51:52

and high on 50,000 drugs.

0:51:520:51:54

And that life matters.

0:51:560:51:57

This was a very good friend of everybody.

0:51:590:52:01

And they didn't even stay to find out his condition.

0:52:010:52:06

They didn't even use their cellphones,

0:52:060:52:09

which everybody had, to call 911.

0:52:090:52:13

The defendant lied to the police.

0:52:130:52:15

Huh!

0:52:170:52:18

The reason to lie to police when you are arrested

0:52:180:52:24

is to get out of trouble.

0:52:240:52:27

You know what? That's not the biggest problem in the case.

0:52:270:52:31

The biggest problem in this case,

0:52:310:52:35

it's when Cornelius Toliver

0:52:350:52:38

went to Brandon Green.

0:52:380:52:40

The only thing he saw was a hole

0:52:400:52:43

right in the middle of Brandon Green's face.

0:52:430:52:48

He jumped to the conclusion

0:52:480:52:51

that Brandon Green had been shot in the face.

0:52:510:52:56

Brandon Green wasn't shot in the face.

0:52:580:53:01

That was an exit wound.

0:53:010:53:02

If I may have Ms Perry stand up,

0:53:020:53:04

I think I need to demonstrate something for you.

0:53:040:53:06

The victim is a few feet away from the defendant when he shoots.

0:53:060:53:10

The gun is raised and pointed.

0:53:100:53:12

"Oh, sh...!"

0:53:120:53:13

HE MIMICS GUNSHOT

0:53:130:53:16

Not one single one of them said he went like this.

0:53:160:53:19

Or he went like this.

0:53:190:53:21

Not a single person said that.

0:53:210:53:23

You know why? Because that's not what happened.

0:53:230:53:25

It didn't come from the front.

0:53:250:53:28

It didn't come from some red Kangol-hatted man.

0:53:280:53:32

It came from behind and to the right.

0:53:320:53:37

The shot didn't come from behind.

0:53:370:53:39

There's no grassy knoll in Mascara's.

0:53:390:53:42

The man in the red Kangol hat was always the suspect,

0:53:420:53:45

was the only suspect,

0:53:450:53:47

was the person that the only people in the world

0:53:470:53:50

that you would reasonably believe witnessed this murder,

0:53:500:53:53

all three of them came into court and said, "It's him."

0:53:530:53:58

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is an abiding conviction of guilt,

0:53:580:54:02

that means he is guilty,

0:54:020:54:04

and we submit you should find him as such.

0:54:040:54:06

Thank you.

0:54:060:54:07

Members of the jury, I thank you for your attention during this trial.

0:54:090:54:13

I would ask you all to please go into the jury room.

0:54:130:54:16

You may bring your notes, you may begin your deliberations.

0:54:160:54:19

'If this guy don't go to prison for the murder of Brandon,'

0:54:280:54:34

I don't know how I am going to react.

0:54:340:54:37

I can't go and tell my son, "Rest in peace,"

0:54:370:54:40

you know what I mean? Because it won't be peace.

0:54:400:54:42

I don't know if I can walk around and see this guy.

0:54:440:54:47

If this guy walks away from this, man...

0:54:520:54:55

..how can you believe in the justice system?

0:54:580:55:02

There's something wrong.

0:55:020:55:03

After 2½ hours of deliberation, the jury returns with a verdict.

0:55:080:55:13

All rise. Court is back in session.

0:55:130:55:16

Good evening, please be seated, if you wish.

0:55:160:55:19

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,

0:55:190:55:22

the bailiff has informed me that you have reached a verdict.

0:55:220:55:25

Madam Clerk, will you please publish the verdict?

0:55:370:55:40

In the Circuit Court of the 4th Judicial Circuit

0:55:410:55:44

in and for Duval County, Florida, case number 16, 2014, CF39058 XXMA,

0:55:440:55:54

State of Florida versus Lenard Joel Anderson - verdict.

0:55:540:56:00

We, the jury, find the defendant guilty.

0:56:000:56:03

So say we all.

0:56:030:56:05

Done at Jacksonville, Duval County, Florida, signed by foreperson,

0:56:050:56:08

dated July 29th, 2016.

0:56:080:56:11

'Whoo!'

0:56:240:56:26

You got to wait till you get all the way. You say, "Whoo!"

0:56:260:56:29

Thank you, man. Thank you.

0:56:290:56:32

'I think the fear of the criminal justice system

0:56:320:56:35

'is people won't be treated with respect,

0:56:350:56:37

'they won't be treated seriously, that their voice won't be heard.'

0:56:370:56:40

Father, we thank you, God, for this verdict, Lord God.

0:56:400:56:43

Justice, God, is served.

0:56:430:56:45

Father, we continue to pray that you continue to cover us and keep us,

0:56:450:56:48

Lord God. Brandon is in your hands now.

0:56:480:56:51

'In the community, they see

0:56:510:56:53

'my brother, my cousin, my uncle is in jail -

0:56:530:56:56

'that's the police officer's fault,

0:56:560:56:58

'as opposed to the defendant's fault...

0:56:580:57:01

'..discounting the fact, well, the victim was black

0:57:030:57:06

'and the police were working to get justice for that particular victim.

0:57:060:57:10

'If people do not want to cooperate,

0:57:120:57:14

'justice can be very, very difficult to obtain.'

0:57:140:57:19

There are a lot of young kids who think having a gun is no big deal.

0:58:100:58:15

You're entering a plea to the charge of murder with a firearm.

0:58:150:58:18

Are you guilty of that charge?

0:58:180:58:20

The juvenile justice system is not designed

0:58:200:58:23

to deal with 12-year-old murderers.

0:58:230:58:26

I came in for murder. I ain't no child no more.

0:58:260:58:29

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