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This programme contains some strong language and scenes which some viewers may find upsetting. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:09 | |
MUSIC: Run On by Cantus | 0:00:11 | 0:00:16 | |
'I believe in good and evil. I believe it exists in this world.' | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
I'm not going to lay down and not let my vote mean something! | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
My ancestors DIED for me to have the right to vote! | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
And we're going to have law and order. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
CHEERING | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
We have to enforce the laws of the State of Florida, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
and our laws say we have to be tough. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
I don't care what caused you to do it! | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
You can't run around stabbing people! | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
Some people do belong behind bars and I will not apologise | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
for putting them there. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
This election is about turnout. If we get our people out to vote, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:50 | |
we win. It's that simple. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:51 | |
The city of Jacksonville is about to elect its next state attorney. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
Angela's been kicking butt every single day that she's been | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
-in office. -Amen. -It's our turn to return the favour, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
and we have to turn out our people because the second we do, | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
we frickin' win. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:04 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
I like it when that smile spreads. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
I love that, when people go, "Oh! I know her." | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
Angela Corey has done the job for the last eight years | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
and is seeking a third term in office. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
Her main rival is a former employee, Melissa Nelson. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
If elected, what's the first thing you would change? | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
What I've been saying all along, I'm going to work | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
to restore confidence in that office. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
One of their key battlegrounds is how the justice system | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
deals with children. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:34 | |
I can only speak from my own experience as to knowing | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
how this state attorney's office treats juveniles. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
In particular, Angela Corey's willingness | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
to prosecute children as adults. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
Oh, it's a violation of the international code of justice. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
It's inhumane, it's this. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
The kind of people we're sending to adult court are people who shoot | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
at kids, people who bash kids' heads into bookcases. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
I got elected to be tough on crime and to follow the law. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
I don't create this stuff, I just do my job. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
Florida's law allows the most serious juvenile offenders | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
to be dealt with by adult courts and given adult punishment. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
He will serve 15 years in the Florida State Prison. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
Angela Corey has received widespread criticism for her use of this law. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:29 | |
CRYING | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
And now one case is causing controversy - | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
the prosecution of Jacksonville's second-youngest killer, | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
Sharron Townsend. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:41 | |
State Attorney's Office announced last week Sharron Townsend | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
would be charged as an adult with second-degree murder. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
The State Attorney's Office says he killed 54-year-old Thomas Trent | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
when he was just 12 years old. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
Angela Corey has always done her best to try to make this system | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
a better system, with more punishment. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
She has always been very tough on this juvenile crime, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
to her credit. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:08 | |
Eileen Simpson was the detective who lead the investigation | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
against Sharron. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:15 | |
Every now and again, you see someone that just has no care | 0:04:17 | 0:04:22 | |
for a human life. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:23 | |
It doesn't mean anything to them. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
This is one of those individuals. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
Two and a half years ago, Eileen was called to the scene of a shooting. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
She found a homeless man, Thomas Trent, dead, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
with a bullet wound to the head. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
We were standing out here with absolutely no idea | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
what happened or who did this to this man | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
when a business owner came out and said, "Hey, I want to share | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
"something with you. We found something on our video | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
"we think you should see." | 0:04:51 | 0:04:52 | |
The footage showed Sharron and another boy, Darrell Royal, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
ten minutes before the shooting. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:00 | |
We realise that they're going to make that path | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
between the broken building, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
and realise that's exactly where Mr Trent was found deceased. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
Mr Trent is basically laying here on this sidewalk. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:19 | |
There's a little bit of a ledge, and Mr Trent is laying here | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
on this sidewalk when they walk up, see him laying there and kick him. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:28 | |
Mr Trent tries to get up, gets standing up, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
they start calling him names | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
and eventually Sharron points a gun out at him and shoots him, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
and it hits him in the back of the head. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
He stumbles, stumbles and falls down. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:48 | |
This man was defenceless. He was asleep, minding his own business, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
not bothering a soul. And that bothers me, when people get | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
victimised because they're laying on the sidewalk | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
with no place to live. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:04 | |
We don't live in a country that we allow that type of | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
animalistic behaviour. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:08 | |
We have places for people like that, it's called prison. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
Both boys were identified and questioned. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
Darrell claimed that it was Sharron who pulled the trigger. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
Sharron was then interviewed by Eileen. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
Do you feel bad for what happened? | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
I mean, it's a difference in somebody. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
Are you the type of person that just doesn't care about anybody | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
and you're just that evil, at 12? | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
I don't know any 12-year-old, almost 13, I don't know any kid your age | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
that could be evil like that. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
Are you evil? | 0:06:43 | 0:06:44 | |
No. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:49 | |
At the time of his arrest, Sharron had fallen out with his family | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
and was living rough in an abandoned apartment. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
There's your mom. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:58 | |
Oh, boy, you know what you got yourself into? | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
I don't know if they're going to charge you with murder, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
first-degree, second, manslaughter. I don't know. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
They're trying to put you away for life. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
Your whole life. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
Only 12 years old, though, like! | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
You're not even understanding. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
You just threw your whole fucking life away for nothing! | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
Boy, you as crazy as hell! | 0:07:22 | 0:07:23 | |
You just don't know. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:34 | |
Darrell Royal was released, but Sharron was charged with | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
second-degree murder and has been in adult jail awaiting trial | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
ever since. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
In two days, he attends court to decide his plea - | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
guilty or not guilty. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
-Eileen, how are you? -Mr Mizrahi, how are you? -Very good. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
Eileen is meeting prosecutor Alan Mizrahi | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
to review the case against him. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
We have the Facebook picture, holding what appears to be | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
money and gun, and we have a close-up on the money and the gun. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
We can also see Townsend holding, fanning out money. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
And then we have all the pictures of all the guns. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
Gun, gun, semi-automatic pistol there. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
There's no forensic evidence and the surveillance footage | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
doesn't show who shot Thomas Trent, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
so the prosecution's case is mostly circumstantial. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
And then we have the statements where Townsend is confessing | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
-to being a shooter. -Correct. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
And then he's like, "You shot him or you scared him?" was the question. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:47 | |
-"I shot his ass in his head." -Yeah, in his head. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
"Man, I'm mad as fuck, like. I just went around the corner | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
"and shot this man and walked away like I didn't give a fuck no more, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
-"for real." -Yep. That's what he says. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
I think that pretty much gives us a flavour of who we're dealing with. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
I think none of us wants to live in a society where | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
your actions as a 12-year-old define the rest of your life. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
But remember the primary purpose of criminal punishment | 0:09:16 | 0:09:21 | |
is the protection of the community. That's number one, above all else. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
And so, sadness takes a very significant back seat | 0:09:28 | 0:09:33 | |
to the protection of the community at large. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
Hey, hey! | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
Here are just a few pictures. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
This is one of his school pictures. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
Oh, this...another picture when he was... | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
-How old? -I don't know, four, five or six? Look at him. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
No, he was younger. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
He was a mama's boy. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:57 | |
Sharron's mother, Nekia, is preparing for the hearing | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
with a support worker. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
-This seems like a child... -He is a child! | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
-..that, maybe, for where you moved at... -He's sweet. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
He'd help anybody. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
They think they're getting ready to take him away, his whole life. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:20 | |
Oh, no. I don't think it's fair. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
He's ready to come home. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
He looked like he learnt his lesson now. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
I know he got his mind together. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
Yes. He's been reading up on his books, his Bible. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:34 | |
He's got all kinds of books. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:35 | |
Yes, he got older. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
He got face hair, I can't believe it. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
Yes. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:42 | |
They got him around all these grown-ass adults | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
in this big jailhouse. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
Juveniles supposed to get sent with the juveniles. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
It don't make sense to me. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:15 | |
Now 14 years old, Sharron faces a choice - stick to a plea | 0:12:05 | 0:12:10 | |
of not guilty and take his chance at trial, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
or change it to guilty and negotiate a limit to his sentence. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:18 | |
At some point while a criminal case is pending, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
you're at a crossroads, OK? | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
And you have to evaluate what lies down path A, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
which would be a trial, and what lies down path B, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
which would be, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
you know, some form of negotiated plea. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
You have to talk about... | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
not whether or not that client is guilty, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
but whether or not the state could convince | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
a jury in Jacksonville, Florida that they're guilty. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
All rise. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:53 | |
But ultimately, it's his choice. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
Even though he is a young child, | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
ultimately it's his decision as to what he wants to do. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
Sharron Townsend. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
You are Sharron Townsend? | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
-Yes, sir. -How old are you, Mr Townsend? -14. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
-Who have you spoken to to reach this decision? -My lawyer. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
Your Honour, at this time we have reached | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
a proposed negotiated disposition. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
Mr Townsend has authorised me to withdraw | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
his previously-entered plea of not guilty. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
He has authorised me to enter a plea of guilty as charged | 0:13:35 | 0:13:40 | |
with the understanding that in exchange for his plea, the state | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
is willing to enter a waiver of the 25 year minimum mandatory penalty. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:49 | |
You're entering a plea of guilty to the charge of murder | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
and with a firearm? | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
Are you guilty of that charge? | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
-Yes, sir. -I didn't hear you. -Yes, sir. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
You understand that when you plead guilty, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
you give up certain constitutional rights? | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
Yes, sir. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:06 | |
You give up the right to have a trial, trial by jury, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
-you understand what that is? -Yes, sir. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
At a trial, they have to come here and prove your guilt to the jury. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
-You don't have to prove anything, you understand? -Yes, sir. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
Did you speak to your mother? | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
Yes, sir. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
Have you discussed this with her and your intention to enter this | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
-plea of guilty? -Yes, sir. -Did she approve of it? -No. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
But you're making this decision despite that, is that correct? | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
Yes, sir. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
All right. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
-To be set for sentencing. -Thank you, Judge. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
By pleading guilty, | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
Sharron now faces between 10 and 40 years in prison. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
Had he chosen to fight the case at trial and lost, | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
he would've faced at least 25. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
The State Attorney's Office in Jacksonville is | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
incredibly aggressive in the prosecution of juveniles. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:06 | |
I think Angela Corey herself has said that, you know, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
"I don't care that they're kids. If they do horrible things, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
"I'm going to treat them like they're grown-ups." | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
The juvenile justice system is not designed to deal | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
with 12-year-old or 13-year-old murderers. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
We have had to put kids that age in adult court because there is | 0:15:25 | 0:15:30 | |
no juvenile programme that would either fix them, or protect | 0:15:30 | 0:15:35 | |
the community from them if they are that dangerous. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
I do disagree with the suggestion that the Department of | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
Juvenile Justice is ill-equipped or inept of dealing with juveniles. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
I know otherwise. Ms Corey knows otherwise. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
Angela Corey and Melissa Nelson's conflict over juveniles | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
can be traced back to a case three years ago. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
Cristian Fernandez walks into court in an orange jumpsuit, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
without shackles or handcuffs, and pleads guilty. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
12-year-old Cristian Fernandez was charged with killing | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
his two-year-old brother by repeatedly smashing his head | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
against a bookshelf. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
Angela chose to prosecute Christian as an adult and Melissa | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
was part of a team that volunteered to defend him. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
The idea that a 12-year-old child | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
with a very, very, um, sad background | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
would be charged as an adult and face...and be facing | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
a mandatory life sentence was hard to wrap your head around. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
Melissa successfully fought Angela's pursuit | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
of a mandatory life sentence, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
instead reducing it to five years in a juvenile facility. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:48 | |
In the Cristian Fernandez case, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
the 12-year-old was put into solitary confinement, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
a four by eight cell, | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
alone and kept there for 28 days. That is what caused the outrage. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:02 | |
Cristian Fernandez, Miss Nelson and several others | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
made great hay about it, a lot of publicity, a lot of bashing. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:11 | |
They have not said one word since we've had another 12-year-old, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
two 13-year-olds and a 14-year-old who cut off his mother's head. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:20 | |
Following his guilty plea, Sharron will be sentenced | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
for the murder of Thomas Trent in two months' time. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
Starting to think about them all. Trying not to think about it, but... | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
It just is what it is. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
Since I've been back here, I've seen people caught 40, 10, 30, 20... | 0:17:52 | 0:17:57 | |
25. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:58 | |
Did it to a lot of people. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
Mm, nothing I can do. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
While in jail he shared a cell with another 14-year-old, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
who's about to be sentenced. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
His name is Jeremiah Hill. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
Grab a seat. That's it. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
He committed a murder when he was 13. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
At 3am on June 10th, 2015, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
Jeremiah met his victim, Tony Johnson, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
to trade weapons. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
During the deal, Jeremiah shot Tony and killed him. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
OK. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:22 | |
Mm-hm. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:39 | |
Mm-hm. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:42 | |
After confessing to police, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
Jeremiah was charged with first-degree murder. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
We help. We help, all y'all. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
SHE SIGHS | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
Jeremiah is going to court to find out how many years | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
he'll spend in prison. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
Because he's being treated as an adult, | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
the maximum sentence he faces is life. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
Jeremiah was charged as an adult | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
at the discretion of the State Attorney's Office. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
There's a whole lot of power | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
in what the State Attorney's Office can do. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
He is facing his murder charge just as if he were a 50-year-old man. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
In a sentencing, the defence and prosecution present their arguments | 0:21:57 | 0:22:02 | |
to a judge, who ultimately decides what punishment fits the crime. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:08 | |
I've grown up with the belief that good and evil exists in this world. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
We have, uh, a young man committing a brutal crime. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:19 | |
And so he still needs to be held accountable for his actions. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:24 | |
We can't always say, well, he's young and he didn't know any better. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
The defence call Jeremiah to the stand. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
-Jeremiah, you know exactly why you're here, right? -Yes, ma'am. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
I'm going to use the word "remorse". Do you know what that word means? | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
-I feel sorry. -OK. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
And you feel sorry for your participation in what happened? | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
Yes, ma'am. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:51 | |
Is there anything that you want the victim's families to know? | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
Thank you, Jeremiah. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
The prosecution can now challenge Jeremiah's claim that he's sorry. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:19 | |
Let me read to you exhibit one. The victim's family members | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
make a posting where it says, | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
"My brother will be missed, a true friend." | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
And you put on there, what? Happy faces and guns as a reply. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
Do you remember that? | 0:23:35 | 0:23:36 | |
-I don't remember that. -What else does it say? | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
I don't want to read that part. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
You don't want to read that part on the record? | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
Doesn't it say, "You're talking crazy, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
"you're going to be next, like that..." | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
Pardon my language, "That fucking nigger, Tony." | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
The victim. Correct? | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
You genuinely are apologising to family members. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
-You realise what they've gone through, right? -Yes, sir. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
And that they've suffered. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
-Correct? -Yes, sir. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
And their loved one will never come back. You agree with...? | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
I guess what I'm trying to ask you is, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
do you understand the consequences of what you did? | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
-I understand, I understand the consequences. -OK. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
Thank you, sir. I have no further questions. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
It is a terrible thing that we have, as a society, have progressed | 0:24:21 | 0:24:26 | |
to the point where a 13-year-old resorts to such violent actions. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:32 | |
How do we protect the public from individuals like that? | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
How many chances should that young man get | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
before he's held accountable? | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
-JUDGE: -And whether you have empathy or not, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
whether or not, as you stated, you feel remorse, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
I've never thought of you as an evil person, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
but I think you are a person who's done an evil act. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
Based upon your plea of guilty to murder in the first degree, | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
the court adjudges you to be guilty and sentences you | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
to serve 40 years in a Florida state prison. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
The number of cases involving young children, a 13-year-old, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
a 14-year-old, their willingness to commit these serious crimes, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:26 | |
throwing their lives away, it's the biggest problem I've seen | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
as a judge in the criminal division and in the juvenile division. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
The same judge, Jack Schemer, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
will also preside over Sharron's sentencing. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
BIRD CHIRPS | 0:26:23 | 0:26:24 | |
The family of Sharron's victim, Thomas Trent, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
lives less than a mile away from where the murder took place. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
My niece had been down at the end of the street and heard the shot. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
She was only like a block away from where he got shot. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
So we didn't know that was him. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
The next day, the detectives... My brother Pete comes rushing in | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
and he's like, "Dawn, Dawn, get up, Tom's been shot!" I'm like, what? | 0:26:48 | 0:26:53 | |
You know... I wasn't thinking dead shot. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
You know, OK, he's gotten in trouble. But no. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
They said he was shot... right between the eyes. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
Point blank. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:08 | |
By a 12-year-old child. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
Thomas Trent had struggled with alcoholism since the death | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
of his mother, and despite attempts by his family to help, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
was living rough at the time of the attack. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
My whole...world broke. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
Because he... | 0:27:33 | 0:27:34 | |
He was my baby brother. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
I loved him, I raised him. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
He might not have had the best life, | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
he might not have lived | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
in the style everybody thinks that we should live in, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
but he was a person, he was a human being, he had a right to life. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:56 | |
They had no right to take it. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
My brothers, when it happened, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
were ready to go on the hunt for him. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
And if they'd have found him, honestly, before the police had, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:15 | |
it would not have gone over good for the child. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
If the maximum punishment he can get is 40 years... | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
-Then he should get every day. -Then he should get every stinking day. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
Ten years... | 0:28:30 | 0:28:31 | |
-For that... -That would be the giant smack in the face. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
-He'd be out before he was... before he turned 30. -Yep. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
I didn't think it was going to be some little... | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
-Kid. -..hoodlum. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:45 | |
I won't call him a kid, cos... | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
-Somebody do that, you're not a kid any more. -Well, you're right there. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
He decided he wanted to be a man and make a man's choice, | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
so he should get man justice. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
This is the spot where it happened. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
Yeah. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:08 | |
Can't believe it. He's a rotten-ass person, I know that. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
I go along with what the detective said. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
One evil person. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:30 | |
That he should kill somebody. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:33 | |
Just hold together, OK? | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
It is hard. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
But anyway... | 0:29:44 | 0:29:45 | |
-Hi, guys. -Hi there, how are you? | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
-NEWSREADER: -Primary day in Election 2016 continues... | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
All eyes are on the race for state attorney... | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
Jacksonville's voters go to the polls today | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
to elect their next state attorney. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
The campaign has been great. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
We've built positive momentum every single day, every single | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
weekend and it's culminating with, I hope, a great turnout today. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:33 | |
No state attorney here in Jacksonville in modern history | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
has ever lost a re-election bid. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:38 | |
Thank you! Thank you. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
Who did you vote for for state attorney? | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
I voted for Angela Corey, I think she's done a great job. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
The candidates' views on how to treat child criminals | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
has split opinion throughout the campaign. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
Now the people can choose what brand of justice they want | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
for the next four years. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:00 | |
I'm supporting Angela Corey. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
She has been our best prosecutor | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
we have had in Duval County in many, many years. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
What has she done as a prosecutor that makes you want to come out...? | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
She puts criminals in jail. She puts people on death row. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
She looks out for the victims. The criminals despise her. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
What has been one of the busier precincts here in town will be | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
even busier over the next hour and a half or so until polls close. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:29 | |
Clark, everyone here at the Melissa Nelson camp is optimistic. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
We spoke with her campaign staff earlier. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
Nelson is tucked away, she hasn't been seen so far, | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
but she will come down and address this crowd. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
The polls closed 20 minutes ago. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
And results are starting to come in. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
And half the polls have reported, so it'll stay that way? | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
-64, around that. -Third of them. -Third of them. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
-Matt, you saw early numbers? -Yeah. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
It's a big number! | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
Bro! | 0:32:11 | 0:32:12 | |
-That's Duval. -Yeah. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
-Now this race is... -It's over. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
All of you, thank you so much. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:51 | |
I, I... This is overwhelming. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
I believed that we deserve more in our justice system | 0:32:55 | 0:33:00 | |
and that's why I ran. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:01 | |
And tonight this victory gives voice to what our community expects | 0:33:01 | 0:33:07 | |
from our justice system. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:08 | |
Democrat, Republican, Independent, black, white, rich or poor, | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
I am committed to serving all of you in this community equally. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
I want us all to remember that there are children living in homes | 0:33:29 | 0:33:34 | |
where the sound of gunfire is, unfortunately, not a foreign sound. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
And there are segments of our community who do not trust | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
that our system is fair. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
I will work hard to restore trust in the criminal justice system. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:50 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
How do you feel after this loss? | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
Well, you know, we're looking at the numbers | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
and we were very disappointed by those. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
We have tough justice and we've not been apologetic, | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
nor will I be at this point for being tough on violent | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
and repeat offenders. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:16 | |
And I did what I promised to do eight years ago. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
So you have no regrets at all? | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
Well, no. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:21 | |
-Thank you, Angela. -Thank you. -Thank you. Thank you. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
The election loss means Angela Corey will leave office | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
in four months' time. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
Her last high-profile case is Sharron Townsend. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
-RADIO: -115mph, that makes it a Category 3 hurricane, | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
major hurricane, with gusts over 140mph. That's a major hurricane | 0:34:49 | 0:34:54 | |
moving just off our coast and then heading on just along... | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
Detective Eileen Simpson is meeting the Trent family | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
ahead of Sharron's sentencing. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
Two years ago, it was Eileen who broke the news of Thomas's death. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
-Did I hear the doorbell ring? -EILEEN LAUGHS | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
I knew you'd come let me in! | 0:35:11 | 0:35:12 | |
-Hey, Pete. -How you doing? -How are you? | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
-No, you don't get to have her! -DOG BARKS | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
Oh, my Juju bee! Where's my Juju? | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
-Come on. -Juju! Hey! -There she is. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
Hey, Juju! | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
Hi! Hi, Juju! | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
If y'all remember us sitting right here in this living room, | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
I knew I was up against a tough case, but I promised you guys | 0:35:34 | 0:35:38 | |
I would make this happen for you and I told you there was good and bad | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
in the case, but I told you I'd get you to this day. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
-Yes, ma'am. -This sentencing hearing, they'll say what a great kid he is | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
and all the things that he's done to change, and all the reasons why, | 0:35:48 | 0:35:53 | |
you know, he should get the lightest sentence. And then it's our turn. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
-And... -That, to me, does not matter. He killed somebody. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
Simple as that. I don't care how many goodies you're doing | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
in prison or in jail, how much you've changed. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
-You murdered somebody. Simple as that. -I agree with you. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
-I mean... -I agree with you. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
We're gambling on how much time | 0:36:12 | 0:36:13 | |
this judge is going to give this young boy, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
that everybody's going to want to portray as the poor kid, OK? | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
-Right. -So let's just say that if you all don't get up | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
and tell that judge how you feel, then he doesn't have a way to know | 0:36:23 | 0:36:28 | |
how you feel. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:29 | |
I don't understand why he shouldn't get life, | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
because he took a life. Why should he be, 40 years from now, | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
have a chance to come out, have a life, maybe have children, | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
maybe have this, that and the other? | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
My brother isn't. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
I don't disagree with you, but we're in the minority. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
I don't think that everybody feels that way. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
Listen, trust me, I've been on the stand now | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
for probably 15 years, testifying and stuff, | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
and there is times that I feel hot all over, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
because I can't contain what I really want to say. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
And when they make me raise my hand and say, "Tell the truth, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
"the whole truth and nothing but the truth," they don't mean | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
the whole truth, because there are so many things I'm not allowed | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
to say because it could be prejudicial to the defendant. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
There's a system in place and I have to play within it. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
I don't have to like it. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
Just remember, you can't just come off and say, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
"Well, that blankety-blank just pisses..." | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
-Welcome to America. -No. -You don't speak what you got to say. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
Well, you do, but you have to polish it. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
Animals act like animals. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
We are not animals. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:32 | |
We're not animals. We want to make that judge realise | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
we are all civilised human beings and the last thing we want to do | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
is act like them. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:41 | |
-That's for sure. -Does that make sense? -Yes, it does. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
Cos if you act like them, you're no different than them. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
I will do my best. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:52 | |
-I'm sure you will nail it. -I will do my best. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
I am sure you will nail it. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
Well, everybody, guess I'll see you on Friday. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
God willing and the creeks don't rise, as we say in the South. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
-The creeks don't rise. -Yeah. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
I'll see you guys Friday. Just remember, say what you want. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
All right, guys. Thanks. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
-You stay! -Come on, Juju! Come on, Juju! -She will! | 0:38:12 | 0:38:17 | |
Come on, Juju, let's go! Want to go in the car? | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
-No, she's not going in the... -She is... | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
-Bye-bye! Come on, I heard you. -EILEEN LAUGHS | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
They're very good people. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
They live the right way, they work, | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
they pay their bills, | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
they don't get into trouble, | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
they don't do things that they shouldn't. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
Just nice people. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:42 | |
-REPORTER: -The wind and the rain continue to just batter this area. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:12 | |
Winds topping at a deadly 145mph. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
The storm skirts the eastern edge of the Central Florida coast. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
It pummels everything in its path. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
For the next few hours, it's only going to get worse than this | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
in the city itself | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
and that is why they issued | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
that evacuation order for this area. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
On the day of Sharron's hearing, Hurricane Matthew hits Jacksonville. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:36 | |
The sentencing is postponed. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
By the time it's rescheduled, Angela Corey has gone | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
and Melissa Nelson is state attorney. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
KNOCK ON DOOR | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
She will now oversee Sharron Townsend's sentencing, | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
which is taking place tomorrow. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
So, we want to spend a few minutes just going over | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
Sharron Townsend's case, which is set for sentencing tomorrow. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
Obviously it was a senseless, almost execution-like killing. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:37 | |
The facts are the 12-year-old took a .22 calibre revolver | 0:40:37 | 0:40:42 | |
and shot a homeless man in the head. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
Has he shown any remorse? | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
Eileen met with him, he showed no remorse. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
He tried to minimise, he tried to point the blame. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
Yeah, he has not shown any significant remorse. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:59 | |
You need to know, the family is going to recommend the maximum, | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
which I think is understandable based on what they have lost. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
The maximum we have is 40 years. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
The other good thing to recognise is that would ensure | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
that Townsend would be incarcerated during, what all experts agree, | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
is the most dangerous part of a criminal's lifespan, | 0:41:14 | 0:41:19 | |
which is, you know, their teenage years | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
-to their early thirties or so. -OK. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
This is a very, very sad case, but our role is recommending | 0:41:27 | 0:41:32 | |
what we think is a just sentence, both on behalf of survivors | 0:41:32 | 0:41:38 | |
of the victim and also with respect to mitigation. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:43 | |
We have a kid who was living on the streets and was 12 years old. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:48 | |
It's senseless. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:49 | |
Mitigation, with regard to this child... | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
It's compelling, but what is also compelling | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
is the risk that this child poses if he is released into the public. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
Sharron Townsend's defence team have one last chance to meet with him | 0:42:10 | 0:42:15 | |
before tomorrow's sentencing. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
He needs to see the barber, he wants a haircut and he wants a shave. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:22 | |
-Hey. -What's up, Sharron, how you doing? | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
Blake was just talking to the watch commander about getting you | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
-to see the barber. -We don't want you to look any older | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
-than you are, you know. -I'm going to let it grow back. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
No, you can grow it back, you can grow it back, but I think | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
it's a good idea for you to be clean-shaven. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
This is what we have put together for the judge. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
We have some experts that are going to talk about | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
your mom and your grandma and how they raised you | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
and the things that they did or didn't do. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
One of the, kind of, themes of this sentencing hearing is, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
you know, their failings, right? | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
I mean, they did the best that they could with what they had to give, | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
but to be quite honest, Sharron, there is a lot that they didn't do | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
that they should have done, OK? | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
And we're going to tell the judge that, | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
it's important that we tell the judge that. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
It's not because we're trying to attack them or make them look bad, | 0:43:15 | 0:43:19 | |
but it's because that's what we have to do to do our job for you. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
-You understand that? -Yes, ma'am. -OK. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
Now, the other side of it is the state attorney gets | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
to put on whatever they want. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:28 | |
And you can expect them to jump up and down and try to make you | 0:43:28 | 0:43:32 | |
look as bad as they possibly can. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:33 | |
And if you find yourself getting upset about something | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
that is said, I want you to write it down, OK? | 0:43:36 | 0:43:40 | |
So write your feelings down on the paper and do not let anybody see it | 0:43:40 | 0:43:45 | |
on your face, OK? | 0:43:45 | 0:43:47 | |
You know, the whole point of this thing is to show the judge | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
that you're more than that one day. You know, the state attorney's going | 0:43:51 | 0:43:54 | |
to focus on that one day, that one moment, and try to make | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
that all about Sharron Townsend, | 0:43:58 | 0:44:00 | |
and what we're doing with all of these witnesses and all of | 0:44:00 | 0:44:03 | |
these doctors is to show the full Sharron Townsend | 0:44:03 | 0:44:07 | |
and to show that you're more than that day. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:09 | |
And by way of explanation, you know, maybe how you got to that day. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:13 | |
It's going to be one of the hardest days | 0:44:13 | 0:44:15 | |
that you've ever been through, OK? | 0:44:15 | 0:44:17 | |
So you just need to be telling yourself that | 0:44:17 | 0:44:20 | |
and know that we're there for you. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:21 | |
They ain't telling me nothing at all, or my mom. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
They're not even listening to us, like we don't have no say-so. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:48 | |
That is my son. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:49 | |
I'm just trying to stay calm and pray for the best. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
But I think everything's going to be all right, though. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
I just know it is. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:05 | |
It'll be all right. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:08 | |
-REPORTER: -Sharron Townsend is to be sentenced today | 0:45:19 | 0:45:21 | |
after pleading guilty last June to second-degree murder | 0:45:21 | 0:45:24 | |
for killing a homeless man when he was just 12 years old. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:27 | |
I ain't that much of a religious person, but... | 0:45:33 | 0:45:35 | |
..all we can do is pray. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:39 | |
Hope for the best, praying for the worst. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:43 | |
The beautiful thing about a sentencing hearing is we don't | 0:46:18 | 0:46:21 | |
have to at all worry about whether or not | 0:46:21 | 0:46:23 | |
he's going to be found guilty. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:25 | |
He has pled guilty to the second-degree murder of Thomas. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:29 | |
Perfect, we've already won. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
We have won the trial and now we're here deciding what | 0:46:32 | 0:46:36 | |
the appropriate sentence is going to be. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
Just make sure that if you hear things that you don't like, OK, | 0:46:48 | 0:46:52 | |
from the defence... | 0:46:52 | 0:46:54 | |
-Bite your tongue. -..bite your tongue. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:57 | |
Listen, my boss, Melissa Nelson, she wants to meet y'all. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
You're in great hands with Alan, so... | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
I'm just... It's tragic and senseless. I'm sorry for your loss. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:18 | |
..in the State of Florida is now in session. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:33 | |
Judge Jack Schemer is now presiding. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:35 | |
Can you solemnly swear that the testimony you're about to give...? | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
The hearing begins with the defence calling a social worker | 0:47:59 | 0:48:03 | |
who's been assessing Sharron's upbringing. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
Well, the first time that Sharron came to the attention | 0:48:05 | 0:48:09 | |
of the Department Of Children And Families, he had been | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
burned in the eye with a Black & Mild cigarette. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
Other DCF involvements surrounded Nekia and her mother's homelessness | 0:48:15 | 0:48:20 | |
and also drug use within the family. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:24 | |
By the time Sharron was 11 years old, the mother provided him | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 | |
with drugs, marijuana and cocaine. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
The mother also uses drugs, she has parties in the home | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
and she supports her family by committing crimes such as robbery. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:37 | |
At some point, Nekia decided to move to Jacksonville | 0:48:40 | 0:48:43 | |
and she did so without having any plans. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
So they came to town, they had no place to live, | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
she had Sharron, was a small child, and then a baby, | 0:48:49 | 0:48:53 | |
living out on the streets of Jacksonville. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:56 | |
How old was he during that period of time? | 0:48:56 | 0:48:58 | |
I believe he was a toddler. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:00 | |
I don't want to leave out the fact that the mother, Lailah, | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
was extremely abusive. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:09 | |
Was there any evidence that Lailah Pollard, the grandmother, | 0:49:09 | 0:49:13 | |
was physically abusive to Sharron? | 0:49:13 | 0:49:15 | |
Yes. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
For example, a month before this crime occurred, | 0:49:17 | 0:49:20 | |
she took it upon herself to beat him in the head with a metal pipe | 0:49:20 | 0:49:24 | |
because he was "smelling his self." | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
And is that one of the events that precipitated Mr Townsend | 0:49:29 | 0:49:34 | |
leaving home and living on the street, | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
which is where he was just prior to this incident? | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
That was the precipitating event. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:41 | |
Next, the defence call a child psychologist | 0:49:45 | 0:49:49 | |
who has been working with Sharron in jail. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:51 | |
So, from your review of Mr Townsend's records, | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
was this period of incarceration the first, sort of, | 0:49:54 | 0:49:59 | |
prolonged period of stability that he's experienced? | 0:49:59 | 0:50:04 | |
Yeah, yes. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:05 | |
For the first time in his life that he had regularity | 0:50:05 | 0:50:09 | |
and he had a couple of people who really... | 0:50:09 | 0:50:12 | |
..seemed to... | 0:50:14 | 0:50:15 | |
..care for him. He got better, more mature, | 0:50:17 | 0:50:20 | |
and much more pleasant to be around. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
Always, children are going through developmental stages. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:27 | |
At 12 years old, his personality's not developed. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:30 | |
And that's just well-known child psychology. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:34 | |
The hope would be that we believe in change and we believe in | 0:50:34 | 0:50:38 | |
rehabilitation and we believe that his personality will form to... | 0:50:38 | 0:50:43 | |
..be a better person. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:48 | |
I don't have any further questions at this time, thank you. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
The contact log report, do you have in front of you? | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
Yeah. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:02 | |
The January 19th of 2015 entry. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
Townsend stated to an officer that he was going to kill the officer. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:10 | |
Yes. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:11 | |
-He's threatening officers with their lives. -Correct. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:13 | |
And then I want to turn your attention to | 0:51:13 | 0:51:18 | |
the first disciplinary report I could see, about having a shank. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
-Shank. -OK, and obviously that's a potentially deadly weapon, correct? | 0:51:21 | 0:51:25 | |
Yes. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:27 | |
And then that wasn't the only time he had it. Then we have | 0:51:27 | 0:51:29 | |
January 5th of 2015, he also had a spoon with a razor attached to it. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
-Yes. Right, a spoon. -OK. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
And, you know, without going through them all cos I think | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
-there's too much time... -Right. -..there's approximately 25 to 30 | 0:51:39 | 0:51:43 | |
-individual disciplinary reports, correct? -Correct. -OK. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:46 | |
Thank you, Your Honour. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:48 | |
Your Honour, the State has several victim impact statements. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:54 | |
We'll begin first with Dawn. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:56 | |
Please state your name for the record. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
-Dawn McNabb. -And what is your relationship to Thomas Trent? | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
-HER VOICE WAVERS: -His older sister. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:06 | |
Take your time and keep your voice up. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:09 | |
Respectfully, Your Honour, I ask that the maximum sentence | 0:52:09 | 0:52:12 | |
liable by law for the senseless death of my brother | 0:52:12 | 0:52:17 | |
be given to the defendant. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:19 | |
This is my baby brother. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:21 | |
And it's a hard thing to lose someone so close, | 0:52:22 | 0:52:26 | |
someone that you diapered, someone that you taught to ride bicycles. | 0:52:26 | 0:52:31 | |
He loved life so much. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:35 | |
He loved his family, he was very close to his mother and father. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:41 | |
So when they did die... | 0:52:41 | 0:52:43 | |
it took his heart away. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
We didn't come from the best of life ourselves. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:50 | |
We had a lot of problems. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
But he's been taken from us senselessly, | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
in a crime of pure unadulterated... | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
I won't say that. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:00 | |
If he had... | 0:53:02 | 0:53:03 | |
I can't, I can't say that. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:05 | |
He was, he was... | 0:53:08 | 0:53:10 | |
OK. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:12 | |
He... | 0:53:13 | 0:53:14 | |
SHE SIGHS | 0:53:15 | 0:53:17 | |
Sorry. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:18 | |
Thank you. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:21 | |
I am still trying to understand what my brother could have ever done | 0:53:33 | 0:53:37 | |
to him that would push him to the decision he made that night. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:40 | |
No-one is a winner. We lost a good brother. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:45 | |
I know for the defendant's mother this is hard. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:48 | |
But she will be able to visit him, see and talk to him, | 0:53:48 | 0:53:51 | |
and for us we will never have that right any more. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you, Your Honour. | 0:53:57 | 0:53:59 | |
That's all the evidence the State has to present. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
I need to take more time to review what has been presented | 0:54:13 | 0:54:16 | |
from both sides. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:18 | |
And what I intend to do is contact the parties as to when | 0:54:18 | 0:54:22 | |
I will announce sentencing. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:23 | |
So we will be adjourned on this case until that time. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
All rise. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
'Of course it's a difficult decision and heavy decision | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
'and a big responsibility.' | 0:54:40 | 0:54:42 | |
You're dealing with people's lives and... | 0:54:46 | 0:54:48 | |
..I think most people, if they ever lost a loved one to a crime... | 0:54:50 | 0:54:54 | |
..would want the person responsible for that crime | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
to be punished extensively or to the maximum. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
Most people would feel that way. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:06 | |
I would feel that way. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:07 | |
I probably would have thought that if the sentencing structure | 0:55:24 | 0:55:28 | |
got more severe and the sentencings became longer, | 0:55:28 | 0:55:34 | |
we would see a reduction in crime. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:36 | |
But it hasn't worked out that way. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:42 | |
I've given the maximum sentences many times. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
I've given lenient sentences many times. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:52 | |
I admit, sometimes you enter sentences and... | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
..you hope that you've done the right thing. | 0:55:57 | 0:56:00 | |
All rise. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:11 | |
Court will now come into order. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:14 | |
You may be seated. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:17 | |
Mr Townsend, if you'd come forward with your attorneys, please. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:23 | |
It is important that you not confuse mitigation with justification, | 0:56:39 | 0:56:45 | |
or mitigation with forgiveness, | 0:56:45 | 0:56:48 | |
because there is no justification for your conduct. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:51 | |
The mitigation explains why, in your young mind, | 0:56:53 | 0:56:57 | |
you were impressed by guns and violence. | 0:56:57 | 0:57:00 | |
It explains why you were on the streets, living in an abandoned home | 0:57:00 | 0:57:05 | |
and associated with others of a like mind. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:09 | |
It explains why you had a lack of respect for authority, | 0:57:09 | 0:57:13 | |
or may have a lack of empathy for the pain of others. | 0:57:13 | 0:57:16 | |
But what it doesn't explain... | 0:57:21 | 0:57:22 | |
..was your conscious decision to point a gun and pull the trigger | 0:57:25 | 0:57:30 | |
and take the life of Thomas Trent. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:31 | |
That was a decision you made on your own. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:35 | |
Accordingly, it is the judgment and sentence of this court | 0:57:41 | 0:57:45 | |
that you be sentenced as an adult to 30 years | 0:57:45 | 0:57:48 | |
in the Florida State Prison. | 0:57:48 | 0:57:49 | |
That will conclude the case. | 0:57:52 | 0:57:54 |