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This programme contains some strong language and scenes which some viewers may find upsetting.

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MUSIC: Run On by Cantus

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'I believe in good and evil. I believe it exists in this world.'

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I'm not going to lay down and not let my vote mean something!

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My ancestors DIED for me to have the right to vote!

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And we're going to have law and order.

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CHEERING

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We have to enforce the laws of the State of Florida,

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and our laws say we have to be tough.

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I don't care what caused you to do it!

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You can't run around stabbing people!

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Some people do belong behind bars and I will not apologise

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for putting them there.

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This election is about turnout. If we get our people out to vote,

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we win. It's that simple.

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The city of Jacksonville is about to elect its next state attorney.

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Angela's been kicking butt every single day that she's been

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-in office.

-Amen.

-It's our turn to return the favour,

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and we have to turn out our people because the second we do,

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we frickin' win.

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APPLAUSE

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I like it when that smile spreads.

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I love that, when people go, "Oh! I know her."

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Angela Corey has done the job for the last eight years

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and is seeking a third term in office.

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Her main rival is a former employee, Melissa Nelson.

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If elected, what's the first thing you would change?

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What I've been saying all along, I'm going to work

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to restore confidence in that office.

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One of their key battlegrounds is how the justice system

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deals with children.

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I can only speak from my own experience as to knowing

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how this state attorney's office treats juveniles.

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In particular, Angela Corey's willingness

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to prosecute children as adults.

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Oh, it's a violation of the international code of justice.

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It's inhumane, it's this.

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The kind of people we're sending to adult court are people who shoot

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at kids, people who bash kids' heads into bookcases.

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I got elected to be tough on crime and to follow the law.

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I don't create this stuff, I just do my job.

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Florida's law allows the most serious juvenile offenders

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to be dealt with by adult courts and given adult punishment.

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He will serve 15 years in the Florida State Prison.

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Angela Corey has received widespread criticism for her use of this law.

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CRYING

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And now one case is causing controversy -

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the prosecution of Jacksonville's second-youngest killer,

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Sharron Townsend.

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State Attorney's Office announced last week Sharron Townsend

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would be charged as an adult with second-degree murder.

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The State Attorney's Office says he killed 54-year-old Thomas Trent

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when he was just 12 years old.

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Angela Corey has always done her best to try to make this system

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a better system, with more punishment.

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She has always been very tough on this juvenile crime,

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to her credit.

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Eileen Simpson was the detective who lead the investigation

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against Sharron.

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Every now and again, you see someone that just has no care

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for a human life.

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It doesn't mean anything to them.

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This is one of those individuals.

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Two and a half years ago, Eileen was called to the scene of a shooting.

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She found a homeless man, Thomas Trent, dead,

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with a bullet wound to the head.

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We were standing out here with absolutely no idea

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what happened or who did this to this man

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when a business owner came out and said, "Hey, I want to share

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"something with you. We found something on our video

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"we think you should see."

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The footage showed Sharron and another boy, Darrell Royal,

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ten minutes before the shooting.

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We realise that they're going to make that path

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between the broken building,

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and realise that's exactly where Mr Trent was found deceased.

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Mr Trent is basically laying here on this sidewalk.

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There's a little bit of a ledge, and Mr Trent is laying here

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on this sidewalk when they walk up, see him laying there and kick him.

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Mr Trent tries to get up, gets standing up,

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they start calling him names

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and eventually Sharron points a gun out at him and shoots him,

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and it hits him in the back of the head.

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He stumbles, stumbles and falls down.

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This man was defenceless. He was asleep, minding his own business,

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not bothering a soul. And that bothers me, when people get

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victimised because they're laying on the sidewalk

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with no place to live.

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We don't live in a country that we allow that type of

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animalistic behaviour.

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We have places for people like that, it's called prison.

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Both boys were identified and questioned.

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Darrell claimed that it was Sharron who pulled the trigger.

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Sharron was then interviewed by Eileen.

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Do you feel bad for what happened?

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I mean, it's a difference in somebody.

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Are you the type of person that just doesn't care about anybody

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and you're just that evil, at 12?

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I don't know any 12-year-old, almost 13, I don't know any kid your age

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that could be evil like that.

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Are you evil?

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No.

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At the time of his arrest, Sharron had fallen out with his family

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and was living rough in an abandoned apartment.

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There's your mom.

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Oh, boy, you know what you got yourself into?

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I don't know if they're going to charge you with murder,

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first-degree, second, manslaughter. I don't know.

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They're trying to put you away for life.

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Your whole life.

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Only 12 years old, though, like!

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You're not even understanding.

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You just threw your whole fucking life away for nothing!

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Boy, you as crazy as hell!

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You just don't know.

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Darrell Royal was released, but Sharron was charged with

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second-degree murder and has been in adult jail awaiting trial

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ever since.

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In two days, he attends court to decide his plea -

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guilty or not guilty.

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-Eileen, how are you?

-Mr Mizrahi, how are you?

-Very good.

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Eileen is meeting prosecutor Alan Mizrahi

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to review the case against him.

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We have the Facebook picture, holding what appears to be

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money and gun, and we have a close-up on the money and the gun.

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We can also see Townsend holding, fanning out money.

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And then we have all the pictures of all the guns.

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Gun, gun, semi-automatic pistol there.

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There's no forensic evidence and the surveillance footage

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doesn't show who shot Thomas Trent,

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so the prosecution's case is mostly circumstantial.

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And then we have the statements where Townsend is confessing

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-to being a shooter.

-Correct.

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And then he's like, "You shot him or you scared him?" was the question.

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-"I shot his ass in his head."

-Yeah, in his head.

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"Man, I'm mad as fuck, like. I just went around the corner

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"and shot this man and walked away like I didn't give a fuck no more,

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-"for real."

-Yep. That's what he says.

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I think that pretty much gives us a flavour of who we're dealing with.

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I think none of us wants to live in a society where

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your actions as a 12-year-old define the rest of your life.

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But remember the primary purpose of criminal punishment

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is the protection of the community. That's number one, above all else.

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And so, sadness takes a very significant back seat

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to the protection of the community at large.

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Hey, hey!

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Here are just a few pictures.

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This is one of his school pictures.

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Oh, this...another picture when he was...

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-How old?

-I don't know, four, five or six? Look at him.

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No, he was younger.

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He was a mama's boy.

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Sharron's mother, Nekia, is preparing for the hearing

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with a support worker.

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-This seems like a child...

-He is a child!

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-..that, maybe, for where you moved at...

-He's sweet.

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He'd help anybody.

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They think they're getting ready to take him away, his whole life.

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Oh, no. I don't think it's fair.

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He's ready to come home.

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He looked like he learnt his lesson now.

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I know he got his mind together.

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Yes. He's been reading up on his books, his Bible.

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He's got all kinds of books.

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Yes, he got older.

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He got face hair, I can't believe it.

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Yes.

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They got him around all these grown-ass adults

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in this big jailhouse.

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Juveniles supposed to get sent with the juveniles.

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It don't make sense to me.

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Now 14 years old, Sharron faces a choice - stick to a plea

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of not guilty and take his chance at trial,

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or change it to guilty and negotiate a limit to his sentence.

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At some point while a criminal case is pending,

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you're at a crossroads, OK?

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And you have to evaluate what lies down path A,

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which would be a trial, and what lies down path B,

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which would be,

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you know, some form of negotiated plea.

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You have to talk about...

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not whether or not that client is guilty,

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but whether or not the state could convince

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a jury in Jacksonville, Florida that they're guilty.

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All rise.

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But ultimately, it's his choice.

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Even though he is a young child,

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ultimately it's his decision as to what he wants to do.

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Sharron Townsend.

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You are Sharron Townsend?

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-Yes, sir.

-How old are you, Mr Townsend?

-14.

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-Who have you spoken to to reach this decision?

-My lawyer.

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Your Honour, at this time we have reached

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a proposed negotiated disposition.

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Mr Townsend has authorised me to withdraw

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his previously-entered plea of not guilty.

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He has authorised me to enter a plea of guilty as charged

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with the understanding that in exchange for his plea, the state

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is willing to enter a waiver of the 25 year minimum mandatory penalty.

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You're entering a plea of guilty to the charge of murder

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and with a firearm?

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Are you guilty of that charge?

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-Yes, sir.

-I didn't hear you.

-Yes, sir.

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You understand that when you plead guilty,

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you give up certain constitutional rights?

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Yes, sir.

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You give up the right to have a trial, trial by jury,

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-you understand what that is?

-Yes, sir.

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At a trial, they have to come here and prove your guilt to the jury.

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-You don't have to prove anything, you understand?

-Yes, sir.

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Did you speak to your mother?

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Yes, sir.

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Have you discussed this with her and your intention to enter this

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-plea of guilty?

-Yes, sir.

-Did she approve of it?

-No.

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But you're making this decision despite that, is that correct?

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Yes, sir.

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All right.

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-To be set for sentencing.

-Thank you, Judge.

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By pleading guilty,

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Sharron now faces between 10 and 40 years in prison.

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Had he chosen to fight the case at trial and lost,

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he would've faced at least 25.

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The State Attorney's Office in Jacksonville is

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incredibly aggressive in the prosecution of juveniles.

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I think Angela Corey herself has said that, you know,

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"I don't care that they're kids. If they do horrible things,

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"I'm going to treat them like they're grown-ups."

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The juvenile justice system is not designed to deal

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with 12-year-old or 13-year-old murderers.

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We have had to put kids that age in adult court because there is

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no juvenile programme that would either fix them, or protect

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the community from them if they are that dangerous.

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I do disagree with the suggestion that the Department of

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Juvenile Justice is ill-equipped or inept of dealing with juveniles.

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I know otherwise. Ms Corey knows otherwise.

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Angela Corey and Melissa Nelson's conflict over juveniles

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can be traced back to a case three years ago.

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Cristian Fernandez walks into court in an orange jumpsuit,

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without shackles or handcuffs, and pleads guilty.

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12-year-old Cristian Fernandez was charged with killing

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his two-year-old brother by repeatedly smashing his head

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against a bookshelf.

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Angela chose to prosecute Christian as an adult and Melissa

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was part of a team that volunteered to defend him.

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The idea that a 12-year-old child

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with a very, very, um, sad background

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would be charged as an adult and face...and be facing

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a mandatory life sentence was hard to wrap your head around.

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Melissa successfully fought Angela's pursuit

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of a mandatory life sentence,

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instead reducing it to five years in a juvenile facility.

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In the Cristian Fernandez case,

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the 12-year-old was put into solitary confinement,

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a four by eight cell,

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alone and kept there for 28 days. That is what caused the outrage.

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Cristian Fernandez, Miss Nelson and several others

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made great hay about it, a lot of publicity, a lot of bashing.

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They have not said one word since we've had another 12-year-old,

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two 13-year-olds and a 14-year-old who cut off his mother's head.

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Following his guilty plea, Sharron will be sentenced

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for the murder of Thomas Trent in two months' time.

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Starting to think about them all. Trying not to think about it, but...

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It just is what it is.

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Since I've been back here, I've seen people caught 40, 10, 30, 20...

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25.

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Did it to a lot of people.

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Mm, nothing I can do.

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While in jail he shared a cell with another 14-year-old,

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who's about to be sentenced.

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His name is Jeremiah Hill.

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Grab a seat. That's it.

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He committed a murder when he was 13.

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At 3am on June 10th, 2015,

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Jeremiah met his victim, Tony Johnson,

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to trade weapons.

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During the deal, Jeremiah shot Tony and killed him.

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OK.

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Mm-hm.

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Mm-hm.

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After confessing to police,

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Jeremiah was charged with first-degree murder.

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We help. We help, all y'all.

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SHE SIGHS

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Jeremiah is going to court to find out how many years

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he'll spend in prison.

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Because he's being treated as an adult,

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the maximum sentence he faces is life.

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Jeremiah was charged as an adult

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at the discretion of the State Attorney's Office.

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There's a whole lot of power

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in what the State Attorney's Office can do.

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He is facing his murder charge just as if he were a 50-year-old man.

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In a sentencing, the defence and prosecution present their arguments

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to a judge, who ultimately decides what punishment fits the crime.

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I've grown up with the belief that good and evil exists in this world.

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We have, uh, a young man committing a brutal crime.

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And so he still needs to be held accountable for his actions.

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We can't always say, well, he's young and he didn't know any better.

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The defence call Jeremiah to the stand.

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-Jeremiah, you know exactly why you're here, right?

-Yes, ma'am.

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I'm going to use the word "remorse". Do you know what that word means?

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-I feel sorry.

-OK.

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And you feel sorry for your participation in what happened?

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Yes, ma'am.

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Is there anything that you want the victim's families to know?

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Thank you, Jeremiah.

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The prosecution can now challenge Jeremiah's claim that he's sorry.

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Let me read to you exhibit one. The victim's family members

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make a posting where it says,

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"My brother will be missed, a true friend."

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And you put on there, what? Happy faces and guns as a reply.

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Do you remember that?

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-I don't remember that.

-What else does it say?

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I don't want to read that part.

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You don't want to read that part on the record?

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Doesn't it say, "You're talking crazy,

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"you're going to be next, like that..."

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Pardon my language, "That fucking nigger, Tony."

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The victim. Correct?

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You genuinely are apologising to family members.

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-You realise what they've gone through, right?

-Yes, sir.

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And that they've suffered.

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-Correct?

-Yes, sir.

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And their loved one will never come back. You agree with...?

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I guess what I'm trying to ask you is,

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do you understand the consequences of what you did?

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-I understand, I understand the consequences.

-OK.

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Thank you, sir. I have no further questions.

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It is a terrible thing that we have, as a society, have progressed

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to the point where a 13-year-old resorts to such violent actions.

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How do we protect the public from individuals like that?

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How many chances should that young man get

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before he's held accountable?

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-JUDGE:

-And whether you have empathy or not,

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whether or not, as you stated, you feel remorse,

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I've never thought of you as an evil person,

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but I think you are a person who's done an evil act.

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Based upon your plea of guilty to murder in the first degree,

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the court adjudges you to be guilty and sentences you

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to serve 40 years in a Florida state prison.

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The number of cases involving young children, a 13-year-old,

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a 14-year-old, their willingness to commit these serious crimes,

0:25:210:25:26

throwing their lives away, it's the biggest problem I've seen

0:25:260:25:30

as a judge in the criminal division and in the juvenile division.

0:25:300:25:34

The same judge, Jack Schemer,

0:25:400:25:42

will also preside over Sharron's sentencing.

0:25:420:25:44

BIRD CHIRPS

0:26:230:26:24

The family of Sharron's victim, Thomas Trent,

0:26:250:26:29

lives less than a mile away from where the murder took place.

0:26:290:26:33

My niece had been down at the end of the street and heard the shot.

0:26:330:26:37

She was only like a block away from where he got shot.

0:26:370:26:41

So we didn't know that was him.

0:26:410:26:44

The next day, the detectives... My brother Pete comes rushing in

0:26:440:26:48

and he's like, "Dawn, Dawn, get up, Tom's been shot!" I'm like, what?

0:26:480:26:53

You know... I wasn't thinking dead shot.

0:26:530:26:56

You know, OK, he's gotten in trouble. But no.

0:26:560:27:00

They said he was shot... right between the eyes.

0:27:020:27:05

Point blank.

0:27:070:27:08

By a 12-year-old child.

0:27:100:27:12

Thomas Trent had struggled with alcoholism since the death

0:27:140:27:17

of his mother, and despite attempts by his family to help,

0:27:170:27:20

was living rough at the time of the attack.

0:27:200:27:23

My whole...world broke.

0:27:270:27:31

Because he...

0:27:330:27:34

He was my baby brother.

0:27:350:27:37

I loved him, I raised him.

0:27:380:27:40

He might not have had the best life,

0:27:430:27:46

he might not have lived

0:27:460:27:48

in the style everybody thinks that we should live in,

0:27:480:27:51

but he was a person, he was a human being, he had a right to life.

0:27:510:27:56

They had no right to take it.

0:27:570:27:59

My brothers, when it happened,

0:28:050:28:07

were ready to go on the hunt for him.

0:28:070:28:10

And if they'd have found him, honestly, before the police had,

0:28:100:28:15

it would not have gone over good for the child.

0:28:150:28:17

If the maximum punishment he can get is 40 years...

0:28:210:28:24

-Then he should get every day.

-Then he should get every stinking day.

0:28:240:28:28

Ten years...

0:28:300:28:31

-For that...

-That would be the giant smack in the face.

0:28:310:28:35

-He'd be out before he was... before he turned 30.

-Yep.

0:28:370:28:40

I didn't think it was going to be some little...

0:28:400:28:44

-Kid.

-..hoodlum.

0:28:440:28:45

I won't call him a kid, cos...

0:28:470:28:49

-Somebody do that, you're not a kid any more.

-Well, you're right there.

0:28:490:28:53

He decided he wanted to be a man and make a man's choice,

0:28:550:28:58

so he should get man justice.

0:28:580:29:00

This is the spot where it happened.

0:29:030:29:05

Yeah.

0:29:070:29:08

Can't believe it. He's a rotten-ass person, I know that.

0:29:220:29:26

I go along with what the detective said.

0:29:260:29:29

One evil person.

0:29:290:29:30

That he should kill somebody.

0:29:320:29:33

Just hold together, OK?

0:29:360:29:38

It is hard.

0:29:390:29:41

But anyway...

0:29:440:29:45

-Hi, guys.

-Hi there, how are you?

0:30:100:30:13

-NEWSREADER:

-Primary day in Election 2016 continues...

0:30:130:30:15

All eyes are on the race for state attorney...

0:30:150:30:18

Jacksonville's voters go to the polls today

0:30:180:30:21

to elect their next state attorney.

0:30:210:30:23

The campaign has been great.

0:30:230:30:25

We've built positive momentum every single day, every single

0:30:250:30:28

weekend and it's culminating with, I hope, a great turnout today.

0:30:280:30:33

No state attorney here in Jacksonville in modern history

0:30:330:30:37

has ever lost a re-election bid.

0:30:370:30:38

Thank you! Thank you.

0:30:380:30:41

Who did you vote for for state attorney?

0:30:410:30:43

I voted for Angela Corey, I think she's done a great job.

0:30:430:30:46

The candidates' views on how to treat child criminals

0:30:480:30:51

has split opinion throughout the campaign.

0:30:510:30:54

Now the people can choose what brand of justice they want

0:30:550:30:58

for the next four years.

0:30:580:31:00

I'm supporting Angela Corey.

0:31:030:31:05

She has been our best prosecutor

0:31:050:31:08

we have had in Duval County in many, many years.

0:31:080:31:11

What has she done as a prosecutor that makes you want to come out...?

0:31:110:31:14

She puts criminals in jail. She puts people on death row.

0:31:140:31:17

She looks out for the victims. The criminals despise her.

0:31:170:31:20

What has been one of the busier precincts here in town will be

0:31:200:31:24

even busier over the next hour and a half or so until polls close.

0:31:240:31:29

Clark, everyone here at the Melissa Nelson camp is optimistic.

0:31:310:31:34

We spoke with her campaign staff earlier.

0:31:340:31:37

Nelson is tucked away, she hasn't been seen so far,

0:31:370:31:39

but she will come down and address this crowd.

0:31:390:31:43

The polls closed 20 minutes ago.

0:31:440:31:48

And results are starting to come in.

0:31:480:31:51

And half the polls have reported, so it'll stay that way?

0:31:570:32:00

-64, around that.

-Third of them.

-Third of them.

0:32:000:32:03

-Matt, you saw early numbers?

-Yeah.

0:32:060:32:09

It's a big number!

0:32:090:32:11

Bro!

0:32:110:32:12

-That's Duval.

-Yeah.

0:32:140:32:16

-Now this race is...

-It's over.

0:32:160:32:19

All of you, thank you so much.

0:32:500:32:51

I, I... This is overwhelming.

0:32:510:32:53

I believed that we deserve more in our justice system

0:32:550:33:00

and that's why I ran.

0:33:000:33:01

And tonight this victory gives voice to what our community expects

0:33:010:33:07

from our justice system.

0:33:070:33:08

Democrat, Republican, Independent, black, white, rich or poor,

0:33:130:33:17

I am committed to serving all of you in this community equally.

0:33:170:33:21

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:33:210:33:23

I want us all to remember that there are children living in homes

0:33:290:33:34

where the sound of gunfire is, unfortunately, not a foreign sound.

0:33:340:33:38

And there are segments of our community who do not trust

0:33:380:33:41

that our system is fair.

0:33:410:33:43

I will work hard to restore trust in the criminal justice system.

0:33:450:33:50

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:33:500:33:52

How do you feel after this loss?

0:34:020:34:04

Well, you know, we're looking at the numbers

0:34:040:34:07

and we were very disappointed by those.

0:34:070:34:09

We have tough justice and we've not been apologetic,

0:34:090:34:12

nor will I be at this point for being tough on violent

0:34:120:34:15

and repeat offenders.

0:34:150:34:16

And I did what I promised to do eight years ago.

0:34:160:34:18

So you have no regrets at all?

0:34:180:34:20

Well, no.

0:34:200:34:21

-Thank you, Angela.

-Thank you.

-Thank you. Thank you.

0:34:210:34:24

The election loss means Angela Corey will leave office

0:34:270:34:31

in four months' time.

0:34:310:34:33

Her last high-profile case is Sharron Townsend.

0:34:330:34:37

-RADIO:

-115mph, that makes it a Category 3 hurricane,

0:34:460:34:49

major hurricane, with gusts over 140mph. That's a major hurricane

0:34:490:34:54

moving just off our coast and then heading on just along...

0:34:540:34:57

Detective Eileen Simpson is meeting the Trent family

0:34:570:35:01

ahead of Sharron's sentencing.

0:35:010:35:04

Two years ago, it was Eileen who broke the news of Thomas's death.

0:35:040:35:08

-Did I hear the doorbell ring?

-EILEEN LAUGHS

0:35:080:35:11

I knew you'd come let me in!

0:35:110:35:12

-Hey, Pete.

-How you doing?

-How are you?

0:35:120:35:15

-No, you don't get to have her!

-DOG BARKS

0:35:150:35:17

Oh, my Juju bee! Where's my Juju?

0:35:170:35:20

-Come on.

-Juju! Hey!

-There she is.

0:35:200:35:23

Hey, Juju!

0:35:230:35:25

Hi! Hi, Juju!

0:35:250:35:27

If y'all remember us sitting right here in this living room,

0:35:300:35:34

I knew I was up against a tough case, but I promised you guys

0:35:340:35:38

I would make this happen for you and I told you there was good and bad

0:35:380:35:42

in the case, but I told you I'd get you to this day.

0:35:420:35:45

-Yes, ma'am.

-This sentencing hearing, they'll say what a great kid he is

0:35:450:35:48

and all the things that he's done to change, and all the reasons why,

0:35:480:35:53

you know, he should get the lightest sentence. And then it's our turn.

0:35:530:35:56

-And...

-That, to me, does not matter. He killed somebody.

0:35:560:35:59

Simple as that. I don't care how many goodies you're doing

0:35:590:36:02

in prison or in jail, how much you've changed.

0:36:020:36:05

-You murdered somebody. Simple as that.

-I agree with you.

0:36:050:36:09

-I mean...

-I agree with you.

0:36:090:36:12

We're gambling on how much time

0:36:120:36:13

this judge is going to give this young boy,

0:36:130:36:16

that everybody's going to want to portray as the poor kid, OK?

0:36:160:36:19

-Right.

-So let's just say that if you all don't get up

0:36:190:36:23

and tell that judge how you feel, then he doesn't have a way to know

0:36:230:36:28

how you feel.

0:36:280:36:29

I don't understand why he shouldn't get life,

0:36:290:36:32

because he took a life. Why should he be, 40 years from now,

0:36:320:36:36

have a chance to come out, have a life, maybe have children,

0:36:360:36:39

maybe have this, that and the other?

0:36:390:36:41

My brother isn't.

0:36:410:36:43

I don't disagree with you, but we're in the minority.

0:36:430:36:47

I don't think that everybody feels that way.

0:36:470:36:49

Listen, trust me, I've been on the stand now

0:36:500:36:53

for probably 15 years, testifying and stuff,

0:36:530:36:55

and there is times that I feel hot all over,

0:36:550:36:58

because I can't contain what I really want to say.

0:36:580:37:01

And when they make me raise my hand and say, "Tell the truth,

0:37:010:37:04

"the whole truth and nothing but the truth," they don't mean

0:37:040:37:07

the whole truth, because there are so many things I'm not allowed

0:37:070:37:09

to say because it could be prejudicial to the defendant.

0:37:090:37:13

There's a system in place and I have to play within it.

0:37:130:37:15

I don't have to like it.

0:37:150:37:17

Just remember, you can't just come off and say,

0:37:170:37:20

"Well, that blankety-blank just pisses..."

0:37:200:37:22

-Welcome to America.

-No.

-You don't speak what you got to say.

0:37:220:37:25

Well, you do, but you have to polish it.

0:37:250:37:27

Animals act like animals.

0:37:290:37:31

We are not animals.

0:37:310:37:32

We're not animals. We want to make that judge realise

0:37:330:37:36

we are all civilised human beings and the last thing we want to do

0:37:360:37:40

is act like them.

0:37:400:37:41

-That's for sure.

-Does that make sense?

-Yes, it does.

0:37:410:37:45

Cos if you act like them, you're no different than them.

0:37:450:37:48

I will do my best.

0:37:510:37:52

-I'm sure you will nail it.

-I will do my best.

0:37:520:37:54

I am sure you will nail it.

0:37:540:37:56

Well, everybody, guess I'll see you on Friday.

0:37:580:38:02

God willing and the creeks don't rise, as we say in the South.

0:38:020:38:05

-The creeks don't rise.

-Yeah.

0:38:050:38:07

I'll see you guys Friday. Just remember, say what you want.

0:38:070:38:09

All right, guys. Thanks.

0:38:090:38:12

-You stay!

-Come on, Juju! Come on, Juju!

-She will!

0:38:120:38:17

Come on, Juju, let's go! Want to go in the car?

0:38:170:38:19

-No, she's not going in the...

-She is...

0:38:190:38:22

-Bye-bye! Come on, I heard you.

-EILEEN LAUGHS

0:38:220:38:24

They're very good people.

0:38:280:38:30

They live the right way, they work,

0:38:300:38:33

they pay their bills,

0:38:330:38:35

they don't get into trouble,

0:38:350:38:38

they don't do things that they shouldn't.

0:38:380:38:41

Just nice people.

0:38:410:38:42

-REPORTER:

-The wind and the rain continue to just batter this area.

0:39:070:39:12

Winds topping at a deadly 145mph.

0:39:120:39:15

The storm skirts the eastern edge of the Central Florida coast.

0:39:150:39:19

It pummels everything in its path.

0:39:190:39:21

For the next few hours, it's only going to get worse than this

0:39:210:39:24

in the city itself

0:39:240:39:26

and that is why they issued

0:39:260:39:28

that evacuation order for this area.

0:39:280:39:31

On the day of Sharron's hearing, Hurricane Matthew hits Jacksonville.

0:39:310:39:36

The sentencing is postponed.

0:39:400:39:42

By the time it's rescheduled, Angela Corey has gone

0:40:060:40:10

and Melissa Nelson is state attorney.

0:40:100:40:14

KNOCK ON DOOR

0:40:180:40:20

She will now oversee Sharron Townsend's sentencing,

0:40:200:40:24

which is taking place tomorrow.

0:40:240:40:27

So, we want to spend a few minutes just going over

0:40:270:40:29

Sharron Townsend's case, which is set for sentencing tomorrow.

0:40:290:40:32

Obviously it was a senseless, almost execution-like killing.

0:40:320:40:37

The facts are the 12-year-old took a .22 calibre revolver

0:40:370:40:42

and shot a homeless man in the head.

0:40:420:40:46

Has he shown any remorse?

0:40:460:40:49

Eileen met with him, he showed no remorse.

0:40:490:40:51

He tried to minimise, he tried to point the blame.

0:40:510:40:54

Yeah, he has not shown any significant remorse.

0:40:540:40:59

You need to know, the family is going to recommend the maximum,

0:40:590:41:01

which I think is understandable based on what they have lost.

0:41:010:41:04

The maximum we have is 40 years.

0:41:040:41:07

The other good thing to recognise is that would ensure

0:41:070:41:10

that Townsend would be incarcerated during, what all experts agree,

0:41:100:41:14

is the most dangerous part of a criminal's lifespan,

0:41:140:41:19

which is, you know, their teenage years

0:41:190:41:21

-to their early thirties or so.

-OK.

0:41:210:41:24

This is a very, very sad case, but our role is recommending

0:41:270:41:32

what we think is a just sentence, both on behalf of survivors

0:41:320:41:38

of the victim and also with respect to mitigation.

0:41:380:41:43

We have a kid who was living on the streets and was 12 years old.

0:41:430:41:48

It's senseless.

0:41:480:41:49

Mitigation, with regard to this child...

0:41:500:41:53

It's compelling, but what is also compelling

0:41:530:41:57

is the risk that this child poses if he is released into the public.

0:41:570:42:01

Sharron Townsend's defence team have one last chance to meet with him

0:42:100:42:15

before tomorrow's sentencing.

0:42:150:42:17

He needs to see the barber, he wants a haircut and he wants a shave.

0:42:180:42:22

-Hey.

-What's up, Sharron, how you doing?

0:42:240:42:27

Blake was just talking to the watch commander about getting you

0:42:270:42:30

-to see the barber.

-We don't want you to look any older

0:42:300:42:32

-than you are, you know.

-I'm going to let it grow back.

0:42:320:42:34

No, you can grow it back, you can grow it back, but I think

0:42:340:42:37

it's a good idea for you to be clean-shaven.

0:42:370:42:40

This is what we have put together for the judge.

0:42:400:42:44

We have some experts that are going to talk about

0:42:440:42:47

your mom and your grandma and how they raised you

0:42:470:42:51

and the things that they did or didn't do.

0:42:510:42:53

One of the, kind of, themes of this sentencing hearing is,

0:42:530:42:57

you know, their failings, right?

0:42:570:43:00

I mean, they did the best that they could with what they had to give,

0:43:000:43:04

but to be quite honest, Sharron, there is a lot that they didn't do

0:43:040:43:08

that they should have done, OK?

0:43:080:43:10

And we're going to tell the judge that,

0:43:100:43:12

it's important that we tell the judge that.

0:43:120:43:15

It's not because we're trying to attack them or make them look bad,

0:43:150:43:19

but it's because that's what we have to do to do our job for you.

0:43:190:43:22

-You understand that?

-Yes, ma'am.

-OK.

0:43:220:43:24

Now, the other side of it is the state attorney gets

0:43:240:43:26

to put on whatever they want.

0:43:260:43:28

And you can expect them to jump up and down and try to make you

0:43:280:43:32

look as bad as they possibly can.

0:43:320:43:33

And if you find yourself getting upset about something

0:43:330:43:36

that is said, I want you to write it down, OK?

0:43:360:43:40

So write your feelings down on the paper and do not let anybody see it

0:43:400:43:45

on your face, OK?

0:43:450:43:47

You know, the whole point of this thing is to show the judge

0:43:470:43:51

that you're more than that one day. You know, the state attorney's going

0:43:510:43:54

to focus on that one day, that one moment, and try to make

0:43:540:43:58

that all about Sharron Townsend,

0:43:580:44:00

and what we're doing with all of these witnesses and all of

0:44:000:44:03

these doctors is to show the full Sharron Townsend

0:44:030:44:07

and to show that you're more than that day.

0:44:070:44:09

And by way of explanation, you know, maybe how you got to that day.

0:44:090:44:13

It's going to be one of the hardest days

0:44:130:44:15

that you've ever been through, OK?

0:44:150:44:17

So you just need to be telling yourself that

0:44:170:44:20

and know that we're there for you.

0:44:200:44:21

They ain't telling me nothing at all, or my mom.

0:44:420:44:45

They're not even listening to us, like we don't have no say-so.

0:44:450:44:48

That is my son.

0:44:480:44:49

I'm just trying to stay calm and pray for the best.

0:44:520:44:55

But I think everything's going to be all right, though.

0:44:570:45:00

I just know it is.

0:45:030:45:05

It'll be all right.

0:45:070:45:08

-REPORTER:

-Sharron Townsend is to be sentenced today

0:45:190:45:21

after pleading guilty last June to second-degree murder

0:45:210:45:24

for killing a homeless man when he was just 12 years old.

0:45:240:45:27

I ain't that much of a religious person, but...

0:45:330:45:35

..all we can do is pray.

0:45:380:45:39

Hope for the best, praying for the worst.

0:45:410:45:43

The beautiful thing about a sentencing hearing is we don't

0:46:180:46:21

have to at all worry about whether or not

0:46:210:46:23

he's going to be found guilty.

0:46:230:46:25

He has pled guilty to the second-degree murder of Thomas.

0:46:250:46:29

Perfect, we've already won.

0:46:290:46:32

We have won the trial and now we're here deciding what

0:46:320:46:36

the appropriate sentence is going to be.

0:46:360:46:38

Just make sure that if you hear things that you don't like, OK,

0:46:480:46:52

from the defence...

0:46:520:46:54

-Bite your tongue.

-..bite your tongue.

0:46:550:46:57

Listen, my boss, Melissa Nelson, she wants to meet y'all.

0:47:050:47:08

You're in great hands with Alan, so...

0:47:100:47:13

I'm just... It's tragic and senseless. I'm sorry for your loss.

0:47:140:47:18

..in the State of Florida is now in session.

0:47:310:47:33

Judge Jack Schemer is now presiding.

0:47:330:47:35

Can you solemnly swear that the testimony you're about to give...?

0:47:560:47:59

The hearing begins with the defence calling a social worker

0:47:590:48:03

who's been assessing Sharron's upbringing.

0:48:030:48:05

Well, the first time that Sharron came to the attention

0:48:050:48:09

of the Department Of Children And Families, he had been

0:48:090:48:12

burned in the eye with a Black & Mild cigarette.

0:48:120:48:15

Other DCF involvements surrounded Nekia and her mother's homelessness

0:48:150:48:20

and also drug use within the family.

0:48:200:48:24

By the time Sharron was 11 years old, the mother provided him

0:48:240:48:27

with drugs, marijuana and cocaine.

0:48:270:48:30

The mother also uses drugs, she has parties in the home

0:48:300:48:33

and she supports her family by committing crimes such as robbery.

0:48:330:48:37

At some point, Nekia decided to move to Jacksonville

0:48:400:48:43

and she did so without having any plans.

0:48:430:48:46

So they came to town, they had no place to live,

0:48:460:48:49

she had Sharron, was a small child, and then a baby,

0:48:490:48:53

living out on the streets of Jacksonville.

0:48:530:48:56

How old was he during that period of time?

0:48:560:48:58

I believe he was a toddler.

0:48:580:49:00

I don't want to leave out the fact that the mother, Lailah,

0:49:040:49:07

was extremely abusive.

0:49:070:49:09

Was there any evidence that Lailah Pollard, the grandmother,

0:49:090:49:13

was physically abusive to Sharron?

0:49:130:49:15

Yes.

0:49:150:49:17

For example, a month before this crime occurred,

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she took it upon herself to beat him in the head with a metal pipe

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because he was "smelling his self."

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And is that one of the events that precipitated Mr Townsend

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leaving home and living on the street,

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which is where he was just prior to this incident?

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That was the precipitating event.

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Next, the defence call a child psychologist

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who has been working with Sharron in jail.

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So, from your review of Mr Townsend's records,

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was this period of incarceration the first, sort of,

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prolonged period of stability that he's experienced?

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Yeah, yes.

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For the first time in his life that he had regularity

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and he had a couple of people who really...

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..seemed to...

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..care for him. He got better, more mature,

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and much more pleasant to be around.

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Always, children are going through developmental stages.

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At 12 years old, his personality's not developed.

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And that's just well-known child psychology.

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The hope would be that we believe in change and we believe in

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rehabilitation and we believe that his personality will form to...

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..be a better person.

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I don't have any further questions at this time, thank you.

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The contact log report, do you have in front of you?

0:50:580:51:01

Yeah.

0:51:010:51:02

The January 19th of 2015 entry.

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Townsend stated to an officer that he was going to kill the officer.

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Yes.

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-He's threatening officers with their lives.

-Correct.

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And then I want to turn your attention to

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the first disciplinary report I could see, about having a shank.

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-Shank.

-OK, and obviously that's a potentially deadly weapon, correct?

0:51:210:51:25

Yes.

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And then that wasn't the only time he had it. Then we have

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January 5th of 2015, he also had a spoon with a razor attached to it.

0:51:290:51:33

-Yes. Right, a spoon.

-OK.

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And, you know, without going through them all cos I think

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-there's too much time...

-Right.

-..there's approximately 25 to 30

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-individual disciplinary reports, correct?

-Correct.

-OK.

0:51:430:51:46

Thank you, Your Honour.

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Your Honour, the State has several victim impact statements.

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We'll begin first with Dawn.

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Please state your name for the record.

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-Dawn McNabb.

-And what is your relationship to Thomas Trent?

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-HER VOICE WAVERS:

-His older sister.

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Take your time and keep your voice up.

0:52:060:52:09

Respectfully, Your Honour, I ask that the maximum sentence

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liable by law for the senseless death of my brother

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be given to the defendant.

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This is my baby brother.

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And it's a hard thing to lose someone so close,

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someone that you diapered, someone that you taught to ride bicycles.

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He loved life so much.

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He loved his family, he was very close to his mother and father.

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So when they did die...

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it took his heart away.

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We didn't come from the best of life ourselves.

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We had a lot of problems.

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But he's been taken from us senselessly,

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in a crime of pure unadulterated...

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I won't say that.

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If he had...

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I can't, I can't say that.

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He was, he was...

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OK.

0:53:110:53:12

He...

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SHE SIGHS

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Sorry.

0:53:170:53:18

Thank you.

0:53:200:53:21

I am still trying to understand what my brother could have ever done

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to him that would push him to the decision he made that night.

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No-one is a winner. We lost a good brother.

0:53:420:53:45

I know for the defendant's mother this is hard.

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But she will be able to visit him, see and talk to him,

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and for us we will never have that right any more.

0:53:510:53:54

-Thank you.

-Thank you, Your Honour.

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That's all the evidence the State has to present.

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I need to take more time to review what has been presented

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from both sides.

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And what I intend to do is contact the parties as to when

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I will announce sentencing.

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So we will be adjourned on this case until that time.

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All rise.

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'Of course it's a difficult decision and heavy decision

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'and a big responsibility.'

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You're dealing with people's lives and...

0:54:460:54:48

..I think most people, if they ever lost a loved one to a crime...

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..would want the person responsible for that crime

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to be punished extensively or to the maximum.

0:54:590:55:03

Most people would feel that way.

0:55:030:55:06

I would feel that way.

0:55:060:55:07

I probably would have thought that if the sentencing structure

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got more severe and the sentencings became longer,

0:55:280:55:34

we would see a reduction in crime.

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But it hasn't worked out that way.

0:55:390:55:42

I've given the maximum sentences many times.

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I've given lenient sentences many times.

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I admit, sometimes you enter sentences and...

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..you hope that you've done the right thing.

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All rise.

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Court will now come into order.

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You may be seated.

0:56:150:56:17

Mr Townsend, if you'd come forward with your attorneys, please.

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It is important that you not confuse mitigation with justification,

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or mitigation with forgiveness,

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because there is no justification for your conduct.

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The mitigation explains why, in your young mind,

0:56:530:56:57

you were impressed by guns and violence.

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It explains why you were on the streets, living in an abandoned home

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and associated with others of a like mind.

0:57:050:57:09

It explains why you had a lack of respect for authority,

0:57:090:57:13

or may have a lack of empathy for the pain of others.

0:57:130:57:16

But what it doesn't explain...

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..was your conscious decision to point a gun and pull the trigger

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and take the life of Thomas Trent.

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That was a decision you made on your own.

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Accordingly, it is the judgment and sentence of this court

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that you be sentenced as an adult to 30 years

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in the Florida State Prison.

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That will conclude the case.

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