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Fraud is the UK's national disgrace. A staggering ?20 billion stolen from

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the state last year - more than the government spends on all our police.

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I'm Richard Bilton. In this series I'm on the front line with the

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investigators fighting fraud. Get the car clamped or removed? Let's

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remove it. Tonight, Blue Badge wars - the people who see disabled bays

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as free parking. How can I calm down when my car was towed? Cos you had

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taken a disabled space from somebody who needs the bay. The con man on

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benefits with a string of businesses, properties and a secret

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life. This is the latest manifestation of my mid-life crisis,

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which seems to be going on for ever. And the seemingly respectable

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businessmen who see VAT as a profitable scam. Can we cut the

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filming please? Andrea Cordery's job is to track down con men. She thinks

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she's found one, and she's on her way to deliver a summons. This is

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not just some lone parent doing an extra cleaning job or something to

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feed her starving children or his starving children. This has been

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quite, um, deceitful, to say the least. Andrea works for Croydon

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Council, and this has been a difficult case. Good morning. Is

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that Mr Sussams? Yeah. Hi, I've got something for you. If I could just

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leave that for you. Thank you very much. I've managed to serve him with

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the summons, I'm just going to make a note of it. We'll hopefully see

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him in court next week. Good. Happy, yes! Andrea's target is a man

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accused of stealing ?32,000. Stephen Sussams had been getting benefits to

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care for his sick friend, Keith Dickenson. When he died he should

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have told the council. They say he didn't - he just kept taking the

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cash. The person who was in charge of Keith Dickenson's affairs,

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according to our records, was his partner, Stephen Sussams. The day

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after his partner passed away he'd actually gone in and started taking

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money out of the account. The account was not closed, it kept on

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running, so the council kept on paying into... For care for a dead

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man? For care for a dead man. The council say Mr Sussams cleared more

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than ?17,000 from his dead friend's bank account. We needed to get that

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money back, so we wrote to him in 2009 asking him to give us a refund

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of this money. He did not want to take responsibility for that. That

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led to us having to have a closer look at his affairs, and then it

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just opened up a whole can of worms for him. I've been looking at this

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case for two years. The more I dug, the more extraordinary it became. It

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began in one of the smartest parts of Devon. We'd heard that Mr Sussams

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had been spotted at the Royal Dart pub. It's a historic building on the

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waterfront - next to a beautiful marina - and Mr Sussams seemed to be

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in charge. Our undercover reporter caught him as he was getting out of

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his Bentley. So, for all that time Stephen

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Sussams seemed to be living a double life. Croydon Council gave him a

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flat and reduced council tax because they thought he was struggling. But,

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in reality, he was living the high life on the English Riviera.

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There were two things wrong with what he was doing. You can't have a

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council flat if you don't live in it, and you can't get benefits if

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you're earning a decent living from your own business. Mr Sussams? I'm

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Richard Bilton from BBC Panorama. I was wondering how you could get

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benefits and a council house when you've got a pub down in Devon? As

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you know... The case is under investigation by the council. I've

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no intention of being involved in trial by television. This is your

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right to reply, because this is a very nice car, you've got a lovely

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pub... Well, Mr Sussams has now got a real trial on his hands. So, yeah,

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we're... It's sooner than we thought but, yeah... Let's get it to court

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and let's get a decision on it. Andrea is off to a pre-trial hearing

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to see how Stephen Sussams will plead. At this point, what would be

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good is if he just entered a guilty plea and then we won't need to waste

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any more of the tax payers' money. The stakes are high. Croydon has

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spent thousands investigating this case. But Mr Sussams says he'll

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fight to clear his name. This is Mark. He's one of our...one

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of our best investigators on the team. I like to use him as my junior

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as much as possible. Thank you. I'll pay you later! Try to teach him the

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ropes. Marcin and Mark are out on Blue Badge patrol in one of the

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smartest parts of London - Kensington Chelsea. Their job is

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to make sure the disabled parking spaces are only used by those

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registered as disabled. Not anyone using a badge for a bit of free

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parking. So where's this lady? Somewhere here. Somewhere here?

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Yeah. Can you be more specific? We're going on holidays and they're

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shopping. OK. So where are you going to meet her?. Here. What time? When

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they've finished they'll call me. So when do you think that will be?

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Couple of hours, three hours? OK. It's actually an offence to park in

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a disabled bay and use a disabled badge that doesn't belong to you and

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the person isn't in the vehicle. Yeah, but I'm having to drop them in

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the shop. What I'm going to have to do is caution you. Yeah. 'It's

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usually just everyday normal people' that wouldn't think about doing

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anything more serious, but they are quite happy to do this and they

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don't often think that there's a victim to this. They don't see it as

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a crime sometimes. Yeah. If they see an opportunity to save a bit of

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money, they think that the benefits outweigh the risks and they have a

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go. Are you disabled? No, I'm not. So you should have parked in a pay

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and display bay and paid for parking. I got out to go to my...

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This, I want to use my boot. I haven't parked here yet. I'm going

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to pick up my mum now, I'm just picking up money... But this is for

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people with a disability so they can park... But I'm the registered...

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All right, OK, but I... You've stopped in a disabled bay. The badge

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is on display on the screen. But I wasn't parking. Listen I'm sorry,

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but I believe an offence has been committed, Can I have my badges

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back? No, you can't. They're not your disabled badges. No-one told me

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that I can't use them while my mum's not in the car. I won't use them,

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I'll go and move the car and you can write your report. We will report

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that. You can report it, I know you will. Fine. Have a good day. Yeah,

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same to you. He's just basically got himself into court. We might have

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just given him a caution, but now he's definitely going to court so...

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And Marcin and Mark's work is appreciated by those who need he

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spaces. Why, what's going on? We're just making sure people are using

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their badges correctly. Oh, right, OK. So, thank you very much. No

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problem at all. 'I rarely come around here because there's only

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just two slots' and if the wrong person gets it it's not fair. Cos

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people with disabilities do really need to get out and most of the time

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you can't. So I'm grateful that they're out. I'll be obliged to show

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them my pass and with a smile, as well. Blue Badge abuse is a small

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crime, but it's carried out by a lot of people. It costs us all ?46

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million a year in lost revenue - money that could go on schools and

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hospitals. And all for a bit of free parking. Now we wait. We wait. Look

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at that, straight down a No Entry. And another. Oh, here we go, is he

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parking? I think we've got one. Is she going into the bay? I don't know

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if she's actually displayed the badge just yet. Yep, there we go.

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She's just placed it now. Is it OK if I see the badge? Yeah, sure.

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Thank you. If you want to see the details... Thank you very much. It's

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the same surname. That's OK. She said that she's just picking her

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mother up now. OK. So how long do you reckon you'll going to be? Half

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an hour, an hour? I'm not sure. I need to help her shopping in.

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Whereabouts is she? Inside Harrods. Have you just dropped her off? No,

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I'm picking her up. OK. All right. All right? OK. And I'd like you not

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to take any pictures of me. OK. We'll give you half-an-hour. And we

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need to see... And I want to see any documents of you, that you're, er...

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Yeah, I just showed you my ID. ID of what? That's my Kensington Chelsea

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badge, it's got my name on it. But you're not a traffic warden, are

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you? The woman heads off to Harrods, but Marcin has his suspicions. He

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calls the office. We've just stopped a lady who's using a Barnet Blue

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Badge. I was just wondering would you be able to call her at home and

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see if she's at home or if she's out and about? Yeah? RADIO: 'Yeah, two

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seconds. Stay on the line.' All right brilliant. Yeah, great.

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They'll soon know whether she's telling the truth. SIREN Finally,

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one that's got caught! In Croydon, the council has got a fight on its

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hands. Stephen Sussams is accused of stealing housing benefit, council

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tax benefit, and of clearing ?17,000 of benefits out of his dead friend's

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bank account. He's denied it all. We're pleading not guilty to

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everything. I've spoken to my barrister, they're quite happy that

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we should plead not guilty, I think we have to plead not guilty because

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I don't believe I've done anything wrong. Nothing really surprises me

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in this job. At the end of the day, he's the person who is being put on

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trial and he has a right to plead not guilty if he feels he's

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innocent. You know, if my defence barrister can put everything across

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correctly, which I'm hoping he will be able to...er... ..then I see no

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reason why I should be found guilty of anything. It is my life that I'm

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fighting for. It's my freedom, it's my reputation. It's everything

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you've worked for over the last 40 years. The case will be judged on

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the evidence that is put forward. Hopefully, I've got a good enough

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case. But anything can happen in court. It all depends on what

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happens on the day, really. Andrea has a tense wait before the trial

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begins for real. She is at home? RADIO: 'She is at home, she does

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have a badge.' OK. Back outside Harrods, Marcin and Mark have heard

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back from the office. The woman in the 4x4 can't be picking up her

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mother-in-law. The badge holder is definitely at home in Barnet. The

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mother-in-law is 12 miles away. Marcin and Mark were told a lie.

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Shall we get the car clamped or removed? Let's remove it. They have

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the car ticketed so it can be towed if she doesn't come back first. We

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don't know where we stand with Marcin pulling out and stopping the

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car! Let's try it and see what happens. THEY LAUGH This is high

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level fraud we're dealing with here. Oh, she's there! She's there! No,

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you're not taking pictures. Why are you... Excuse me, madam. My

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mother-in-law is inside the building. Do you know that? Marcin

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tries to explain to the woman that he knows her mother-in-law is not in

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Harrods but at home. It's her last chance. Sorry, can you come and

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speak to us? One second, one second, David. One second, somebody wants to

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speak to me. One second. No, I don't want to speak to you. It's less

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about the badge and the offence that she's done and more about how angry

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she is in the situation and how we need to calm her down and just let

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her go and get on with it. It's annoying, because you know you've

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done something wrong, so just hold your hands up. Take your punishment.

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Take your punishment, basically for trying to commit a fraud and saving

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yourself, what, ?5? She didn't look like she needed to save an extra ?5,

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did she? You know? The woman will now have to head to

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the pound to get her car back. As a nation, we're not good at stopping

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fraud, and tax fraud is ten times as big as benefit fraud. ?14 billion is

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lost to people who don't pay their fair share. Teams from Her Majesty's

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Revenue Customs have the job of clawing that money back. I would

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like to welcome you all to the briefing for operation Go-Kart. I'm

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the case manager and silver command for tomorrow. Gold for the day is

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Andrew McKie, who is also the officer in charge of the

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investigation. Our communications strategy will be by radio only. I

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want you to ensure that the two suspects in this case are removed

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and put into custody as soon as possible. Their targets are two

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respectable-looking businessmen. Julian Stone runs a string of

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drycleaners and Nicholas Harris is a builder who's done work for Stone in

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the past. This all started off with seven invoices coming into local

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compliance. The invoices we suspect are false, and they're being used by

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one of the suspects to reduce his liability by about ?435,000. The

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second suspect has potentially under-declared VAT of nearly

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?200,000, so we're talking about in excess of ?600,000 for this fraud.

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Next morning, and it's an early start for the teams. They plan to

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arrest both of the suspects at the same time. Because these are almost

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all undercover officers, we've had to disguise most of their

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identities. Derek Chisholm is used to this kind of work but he still

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gets tense. In the team that I'm located in we have these probably

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once a week. There will always be adrenalin. If there's not then it

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can't be good. You're always nervous, cos you don't know what's

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going to happen. Confirm address, number 19. Derek's

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team is looking for the builder, Nicholas Harris. Not sure if the

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bell's working. Mr Harris? Yeah. Morning, Derek Chisholm, Revenue

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Customs. I'll just show you my ID. I'm actually here today to arrest

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you. Why? I will go through that, but do you want to possibly go round

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the corner here so you're out of sight of everybody? OK, the reason

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you are being arrested today is on suspicion of fraud. It relates to

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suspected fraudulent invoices used in the evasion of VAT and

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Corporation Tax. We'd like to transport you to the police station,

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please. We pulled out some documents and

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paperwork relating to Mr Harris and his companies. We've also bought out

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a laptop that will be examined by forensic analysts at a later date to

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see if it's of evidential value. That went quite well. Initially it

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was a bit of a problem in that he wasn't at home. We were lucky to a

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point just asking questions in the neighbourhood to find out his

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location. We got him back. Demeanour - calm, therefore my decision was

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not to handcuff him. We'll take him now down to custody, get him

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detained, legal advice and, hopefully, the interview under

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caution. A few miles away, the other team is at Julian Stone's business.

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I've got a warrant to search the premises from the Magistrates' Court

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at City of London... Yep. ..which is to search the premises here and any

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computers, as well. Word of their arrival has spread. Yes, just for

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your information his accountant has just telephoned the officer manager.

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She was enquiring how many officers were on the premises and she's on

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her way, too. To me that would indicate how many people... She's

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probably teeing up his lawyers. I think one of our guys tried to speak

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to the accountant, but she hung up before we could speak to her so...

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Unusual. And it's not long before Mr Stone turns up. I don't want to be

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filmed. Can we cut the filming, please? HMRC suspect the two are

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working together - that Nicholas Harris has been sending false

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invoices to Julian Stone. Well, I did... Yeah, no, I fully appreciate

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that, Sir, I fully appreciate that. These operations are important. The

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gap between what is owed and what is collected is huge and adding to the

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country's growing mountain of debt. For Marcin and Mark, it's round two

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with the Blue Badge cheat. Tila Feiner, who parked illegally outside

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Harrods, has turned up at the pound with her mother-in-law. Hiya. Hello.

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I am fuming! Really? Fuming. She was with me in the store! I said to you

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I am picking her up. When I came... "She's in Harrods, I'm picking her

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up," you said. No, I made up, because we've got a wedding. Oh, you

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made that up? Are you...? Is that what you just said? No, I said I

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made up with her to pick her up from Harrods. Do you understand what it

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means? Make up? Make up? To make up is to make an appointment to meet

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somebody. OK. So, at the time you told us... Yes. ..that she's in

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Harrods, "I've come to pick her up, I'll be ten minutes." I was in

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Harrods, I nearly fell down the escalators just now. She was at home

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- how are you picking her up from Harrods if she's at home? Because I

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don't know what time she's going to be in Harrods. She might decide to

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be half-an-hour or an hour later. I don't know what time she decided.

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You said you came to pick her up. Correct. She is inside Harrods. I

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didn't say she's inside Harrods. You said, "She's inside, I can bring her

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here in ten minutes." I made arrangements to meet her. Can you

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calm down? How can I calm down when my car, my car was towed away...? It

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was towed because your mother-in-law was at home in Barnet. That's the

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reason. Do you want to sit down? I'm going to go with your

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daughter-in-law to the vehicle and we're going to get the disabled

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badge, OK? Have you got the keys? Yeah. Have you paid yet? No, I'm not

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going to pay. You're not? No, you're going to release the car. Why should

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I pay for something that just wasn't right? Why should you do that? No,

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we're not going to release the car. Why? Simple as that. Because an

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offence has been committed. We towed it because you had taken a disabled

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space from somebody who needs the bay. Not you, somebody who needs it.

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She needs it. She didn't need it, she was at home. We're going to

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stand out ground. We know that the law is on our side. You can scream

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and shout all day long or we can sort this out quickly. She finally

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agrees to pay up. What do I need now? She'll get her car back, but

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it's not finished. She'll now be charged. Can she come with me? Yeah,

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I think so. Thank you. Good doing business with you. The moral of the

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story is don't try and fight the law when the law is called Mitchey and

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Marcin. First day of the trial, how are you

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feeling? Yeah, good. It's the start of the Stephen Sussams trial.

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Confident? I'm a bit breathless at the moment you'll have to wait. He

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faces charges of fraud amounting to ?32,000, but he's come out fighting.

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Well, I'm just going to go in there and ask for a little bit more time.

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We're a little bit stressed. The defendant has pulled a few surprises

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out the bag, so we've been rushing around quite a lot in the last few

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days. Stephen Sussams thinks the council's case is flawed. This here,

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that needs to come out. What the letter? Yep. Right. OK. Because the

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defence are arguing that the jury shouldn't even be told that he was

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invited to interview and failed to attend. But he was invited to attend

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interviews. Yeah. As a professional fraudster you would have an answer

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to everything, you would try to, um... Get out of taking

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responsibility for your actions. I'm hoping that they can see this case

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for what it is. That they're dealing with a professional fraudster.

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Simple. Will you send me copies? If you'd like, Sir. Sorry? If you'd

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like, yeah. The case is getting a lot of attention, but he isn't

:25:27.:25:29.

cracking under the pressure. Come in. Stephen Sussams is confident

:25:30.:25:37.

he's innocent and has agreed to speak to us. It's a vindictive

:25:38.:25:41.

prosecution, trying to make an example of someone. I don't think I

:25:42.:25:45.

did anything wrong, or knowingly did anything wrong. "Knowingly" is the

:25:46.:25:51.

key. He says he didn't know that the money he took out of Keith

:25:52.:25:54.

Dickenson's account had come from Croydon Council. It makes you sound

:25:55.:26:03.

like a grave robber, but in point of fact, I mean - I'd quite happily

:26:04.:26:07.

show you the will - I was his sole beneficiary. He was a soul mate, and

:26:08.:26:13.

we'd had so many good times and so much fun over so many years. You

:26:14.:26:18.

know, I can see no real reason why that money shouldn't have been

:26:19.:26:22.

withdrawn and the fact that it was withdrawn after his death... Well,

:26:23.:26:26.

let me tell you, you know, from the moment he died, the bills started

:26:27.:26:34.

coming in. He says he thought the money in the account was Keith's

:26:35.:26:37.

pension, not his benefits, and he blames the council for the mistake.

:26:38.:26:41.

You can see from the papers here, Croydon Council were aware of

:26:42.:26:45.

Keith's death. I told them to stop paying his benefits, and they had

:26:46.:26:54.

stopped paying some of his benefits. And then there's receiving benefits

:26:55.:26:58.

while he ran a posh pub. He thought an employment agency had told the

:26:59.:27:03.

council. I notified the agency that I no longer needed benefits. They

:27:04.:27:09.

told me that they would then deal with it and that all the benefits I

:27:10.:27:13.

was receiving would stop. Um, that didn't happen. The council's case is

:27:14.:27:21.

straightforward. He moved to Devon, but kept the flat and the payments

:27:22.:27:32.

they were giving him. That's cheeky isn't it? Mr Sussams smiling. You

:27:33.:27:36.

think the matter is in court, it's something quite serious. Fighting

:27:37.:27:40.

Stephen Sussams is starting to get to Andrea. It's been an exhausting

:27:41.:27:48.

day. I've been in the witness box for quite a long time and hammering

:27:49.:27:52.

of questions, but right now what I'd like to do is just go home to my

:27:53.:27:56.

family and curl up. End of a day, yeah. Working behind a till at

:27:57.:28:02.

Tesco's doesn't seem so bad right now. And with both sides convinced

:28:03.:28:07.

they're right, things won't get any easier.

:28:08.:28:21.

HMRC have businessman Julian Stone, and builder Nicholas Harris in

:28:22.:28:27.

custody. They're suspected of using fake invoices to dodge ?600,000

:28:28.:28:36.

worth of tax. Nicholas Harris has started to talk and he's denying

:28:37.:28:40.

helping Stone to fake invoices. He's been shown the invoices and he says

:28:41.:28:48.

they're not his. They don't look like anything he would produce. He's

:28:49.:28:51.

admitted that he has done some work for our second guy but they've been

:28:52.:28:55.

really small, it's been really small value stuff and he doesn't recognize

:28:56.:28:58.

any of the values we're talking about on those invoices. So it looks

:28:59.:29:03.

as if we could have been right. But that's pretty much where we're at

:29:04.:29:07.

the moment. OK, well if you let me know what happens with the second

:29:08.:29:12.

set of interviews. Yeah. And then we can decide what decisions we want to

:29:13.:29:15.

make about bailing? All right, as soon as I get any updates, I'll let

:29:16.:29:19.

you know, yeah? OK, that's fine. See you later. It takes a lot of work,

:29:20.:29:24.

but in the end the documents show what both men have been up to. Steve

:29:25.:29:28.

Ferguson and his boss are getting the evidence ready for court. Stone

:29:29.:29:35.

has used these invoices, which we suspect are fake, to reduce the

:29:36.:29:38.

amount of VAT which he should have paid us by about 160k, and his

:29:39.:29:41.

company tax liability by about ?270,000, so we're talking, in

:29:42.:29:50.

essence, of about a ?400,000 fraud. ?400,000 sloshing around his

:29:51.:29:53.

business accounts because of his suspected criminal activity - he's

:29:54.:29:57.

got to get rid of that somehow. If I can show you an example here... The

:29:58.:30:04.

documents suggest Stone has been paying Harris, but the cheques tell

:30:05.:30:10.

a different story. According to these cheque stubs, Stone has paid

:30:11.:30:13.

138 cheques to Harris, but when we looked at the cheques you can see

:30:14.:30:22.

it's made out to Stone's mother. So what he's done is laundered the

:30:23.:30:25.

proceeds of his criminal activity through members of his family. Stone

:30:26.:30:31.

and Harris may not have been working together to dodge VAT, but it turns

:30:32.:30:35.

out they were both at it on their own. Harris has been earning

:30:36.:30:38.

hundreds of thousands of pounds and hiding it from the taxman. Mr Harris

:30:39.:30:47.

has not told us about any of this money coming into his business. He's

:30:48.:30:51.

been generating vast amounts of profit for himself by charging his

:30:52.:30:55.

other customers - including Mr Stone - VAT, and then basically putting it

:30:56.:31:01.

in his pocket. They have enough evidence. Stone and Harris will now

:31:02.:31:12.

be charged. This is the latest manifestation of my mid-life crisis,

:31:13.:31:20.

which seems to be going on forever. Stephen Sussams hasn't been letting

:31:21.:31:22.

the trial get him down, and he's found a cheaper replacement for the

:31:23.:31:27.

Bentley. I bought myself a sports car, and it takes me longer to get

:31:28.:31:31.

in and out than it does to do most journeys. But he's been preparing

:31:32.:31:39.

himself for the worst. What is going to happen is going to happen, so you

:31:40.:31:42.

might just as well... Yeah, all right, you give it your best shot,

:31:43.:31:46.

and you put forward how you feel about different things, but that's

:31:47.:31:50.

as much as you can do. You know, you can't do anymore. Today he'll learn

:31:51.:31:56.

if the jury finds him innocent or guilty. It's a big day for all

:31:57.:32:05.

involved. To date, I haven't lost any cases, I've always... I've got a

:32:06.:32:08.

good, um, prosecution success record. But, at the end of the day,

:32:09.:32:13.

it is up to the jury. What will be will be. That makes me panic! THEY

:32:14.:32:25.

LAUGH I hope this isn't the case you lose. It takes the jury six hours to

:32:26.:32:37.

reach a unanimous verdict. Result! I know! Result, my people, result! I

:32:38.:32:43.

know, I know, I know! He's found guilty on all counts and jailed for

:32:44.:32:50.

a year. The judge wasn't having any of it, was he? Absolutely not. He

:32:51.:32:56.

was not having any of it at all. And he's got a previous conviction, so

:32:57.:32:59.

that's all been... Yeah. For dishonesty, as well. Anyway, my

:33:00.:33:03.

part's done - on to the next case. Over to you! Yes, well, I'll add

:33:04.:33:07.

this to my very large case load. How many years has this taken you? Two

:33:08.:33:12.

years? Two and a half years? This case has taken me two and a half

:33:13.:33:17.

years to bring to this point. It just shows how long these cases can

:33:18.:33:21.

take, there's a lot to it. Zoe Neale now gets involved. It's her job to

:33:22.:33:29.

get the stolen money back. Yeah, but I've got a lot of bits in the

:33:30.:33:33.

background, and I am aware of things that I don't think Mr Sussams knows

:33:34.:33:37.

that I know about. The biggest problem is going to be getting some

:33:38.:33:41.

stuff out of Spain. Yeah. That's the big issue. Well, as you can see,

:33:42.:33:45.

Miss Marple is back on to the next case. See you later. Bye. Stephen

:33:46.:33:55.

Sussams is in jail, and Croydon wants to get back the money he

:33:56.:34:00.

stole. There's not much left in England - the pub and Bentley are

:34:01.:34:03.

long gone. But there's a tip-off that Stephen Sussams had another

:34:04.:34:07.

secret life before he went to Devon. I want to find out what was he doing

:34:08.:34:11.

in Spain, and if there's anything there for the council to claim. Is

:34:12.:34:22.

that really the kind of car to transport a disabled person in? I

:34:23.:34:27.

suppose it's ideal, cos its very low to the ground, easy to get in and

:34:28.:34:33.

out of... It's not what you usually see in a disabled bay - a super car

:34:34.:34:39.

with a Blue Badge in the window. There's not much room for a

:34:40.:34:44.

wheelchair, but... No, no. ..enough room for a walking stick. For a

:34:45.:34:50.

walking stick, exactly. I'm just going to go and have a look at that

:34:51.:34:54.

Badge on display. They reckon the Blue Badge is either fake or stolen.

:34:55.:35:00.

When you see Ferraris parked in disabled bays, it does raise

:35:01.:35:06.

suspicion. Time for a quick call to the council. That badge was actually

:35:07.:35:14.

stolen. So now we need to try and figure out a way of trying to get

:35:15.:35:19.

that Badge back. We need to devise a plan as to how to catch him or her.

:35:20.:35:25.

I think our best bet is to find out who the owner of the car is... Ah,

:35:26.:35:30.

there's two policemen. Excuse me! I work for Kensington Chelsea

:35:31.:35:34.

council. That car there's got a stolen Blue Badge. You can do DVLA

:35:35.:35:39.

checks can't you? Find out who the owner is? We're just trying to see

:35:40.:35:46.

what other information we can get. OK, just bear with me a sec. Thank

:35:47.:35:52.

you. The DVLA say the car belongs to a man called Feroz Gadit. The

:35:53.:35:57.

owners' surname matches up to what the number plate is, as well, it's a

:35:58.:36:01.

private plate on it, so... If we stand here he isn't going to come

:36:02.:36:05.

back to his car. No. They need another tow. We'll call in into the

:36:06.:36:09.

pound, but by the time they get someone down to put a ticket on it

:36:10.:36:15.

he may well have come back and gone. They just hope the tow truck gets

:36:16.:36:17.

here first. I'm in Spain because its seems that

:36:18.:36:38.

Stephen Sussams had a secret life here, and I've come to find out what

:36:39.:36:40.

he was doing. Croydon Council lost ?32,000 to

:36:41.:36:51.

Stephen Sussams' fraud, and now they want it back. They'll try to seize

:36:52.:37:01.

any assets they can find. Now, we've been told that he may have lived in

:37:02.:37:05.

the far south of Spain. We got a journalist who lives here to do some

:37:06.:37:12.

digging. Hi. It's Richard, how's things? Fine, thanks, how are you?

:37:13.:37:20.

Yep, I'm all right, thank you very much. So, you've been busy? What

:37:21.:37:24.

have you managed to find out? I managed to find out he did live

:37:25.:37:29.

here. He did have a life here. Some people knew him - not very many. Not

:37:30.:37:32.

many people actually want to talk about other people, they're quite

:37:33.:37:55.

private here. So how serious was he? The Town Hall can tell me if

:37:56.:38:05.

Sussams' life here was official. So this is living here, this is not

:38:06.:38:11.

casual? No, no, no. This is living here. To go to a hospital here, a

:38:12.:38:14.

social security hospital owned by the state, you need to have this. So

:38:15.:38:19.

this is key to a life here, in this town? Si. So this is really

:38:20.:38:25.

important, because this piece of paper proves that Stephen Sussams

:38:26.:38:28.

had a double life. And, actually, the dates are really important

:38:29.:38:31.

because he applied here in Spain three months after he applied for

:38:32.:38:38.

housing benefit back in the UK. So this is the place? This is it, yeah.

:38:39.:38:47.

But Sussams didn't just live here, he had a business. So this was

:38:48.:38:54.

Stephen Sussams' bar. It was, yes. He ran this place. Yes, he did, and

:38:55.:38:59.

according to people he worked here, he was behind the bar. How long was

:39:00.:39:06.

he here then? I think it was about ten months. He was here from May

:39:07.:39:18.

2008 to February 2009. Whilst he's having that life here, he's got this

:39:19.:39:21.

separate life back in the UK. A house, benefits, different friends.

:39:22.:39:24.

Today this bar is owned by someone else. There's nothing here for

:39:25.:39:29.

Croydon Council to seize. Right, where now? Follow the road around.

:39:30.:39:35.

We track down the people who sold him the bar, Sandra Sharpe and John

:39:36.:39:42.

Patemen. Everything looked... Right and correct. Everything down to his

:39:43.:39:49.

Patek Philippe watch, his Mercedes Benz red top, you know. He went to

:39:50.:39:57.

the bank with you, didn't he? Yeah. Drew out the cash. It was all in

:39:58.:40:03.

hard cash and he gave it you and... So we thought well, that's... That's

:40:04.:40:10.

good. 'But this was deal that quickly ran into trouble.' When did

:40:11.:40:13.

things change then? When it was time and we were getting towards when he

:40:14.:40:17.

had to pay his final amount. He said, "I'm not paying you." I went,

:40:18.:40:21.

"Well, OK then, "you're not paying me the money then this is still my

:40:22.:40:26.

bar." Well, basically, in the end, he said no, didn't he? He turned

:40:27.:40:31.

round and said I've worked it out that you owe me money now. So you

:40:32.:40:35.

painted a picture at the beginning when you first met him of Stephen

:40:36.:40:38.

Sussams as a kind of smooth operator. What do you think about

:40:39.:40:46.

him now? Con man. Yeah. Yeah, a professional con man, actually. He

:40:47.:40:49.

is a confidence trickster. And he's good at it. And he's good at it. Con

:40:50.:40:54.

Man. 'The deal became increasingly messy. 'Whatever the truth, the

:40:55.:41:00.

bottom line is Stephen Sussams 'was in business here in Spain while

:41:01.:41:03.

claiming benefits in Croydon.' So, we know about his business, but

:41:04.:41:09.

where did he live? This little track here? Mm-hmm. Up here? Yeah. This is

:41:10.:41:33.

the road? Yeah. You wouldn't even see this, would you? Without

:41:34.:41:35.

somebody helping you, you'd just pass this by? Sussams' secret home

:41:36.:41:39.

is hard to find. We need to get up here. You see this opposite? So this

:41:40.:41:56.

is it here? That's it. So what is this then? Well, this was his house.

:41:57.:42:06.

Did he buy this then? He bought it between the end of 2006 and the

:42:07.:42:10.

beginning of 2007. He'd lived here for between two and a half and three

:42:11.:42:19.

years. But it was trashed recently. 180,000 Euros for a house on a

:42:20.:42:24.

mountain. A council tenant from Croydon with a double life in the

:42:25.:42:35.

Sun. You can see that this was a really beautiful place. The pool is

:42:36.:42:39.

lovely, there's the barbecue area. It's all done to a pretty good

:42:40.:42:45.

standard. 'His neighbours thought he was a wealthy man. What kind of

:42:46.:42:50.

place is this? It's a lovely place to come, cos you can be away from

:42:51.:42:54.

everybody, nobody can see you, you can mix or not mix. So everybody out

:42:55.:42:58.

here, really, came here because you can just be yourself and be in your

:42:59.:43:04.

own little space. 'And everyone here knew Stephen Sussams.' What sort of

:43:05.:43:08.

background did he seem to have? He's bought his own villa, opened up a

:43:09.:43:13.

business, what was his background? I don't know about his background, but

:43:14.:43:17.

I thought he was quite well-to-do. I mean, he had a Mercedes convertible,

:43:18.:43:20.

which was a bit incongruous in the rambla, you know, but I thought he

:43:21.:43:24.

was a man with money who's trying to do something in the town. And if I

:43:25.:43:29.

told you that during that period he was actually having a kind of double

:43:30.:43:33.

life, in the UK he was claiming benefits? That doesn't go with the

:43:34.:43:39.

Mercedes, does it? Not really, I wouldn't have thought that. He

:43:40.:43:44.

didn't look the type that would be. Yeah, he was, he was claiming

:43:45.:43:47.

incapacity benefit, housing benefit... I'm quite surprised that

:43:48.:43:53.

you've said that, actually. Why? Well, I would have thought from the

:43:54.:43:57.

way he dressed and carried himself and everything else he was a man of

:43:58.:44:00.

means. Obviously somebody else's means! There's no doubt that this

:44:01.:44:04.

was Sussams' house. But something clearly went very wrong. I think

:44:05.:44:10.

when he left it, he left virtually everything in there, according to

:44:11.:44:13.

neighbours. And then, somehow or other, somebody got in there and

:44:14.:44:16.

took everything, trashed the whole place But to go and just leave

:44:17.:44:23.

everything in there was a bit weird. This place has now been seized by a

:44:24.:44:27.

Spanish bank. We found his secret mountain hideaway, but there's

:44:28.:44:28.

nothing left for Croydon to recover. Let's go shopping. Yeah, ?75,000...

:44:29.:45:01.

Marcin and Mark have been checking out fast cars, and they've found the

:45:02.:45:06.

make with the stolen Blue Badge. 0-60 in 2.8 seconds, 199 mph. That's

:45:07.:45:15.

all I'm going to say. They got the car, but they didn't get the Blue

:45:16.:45:19.

Badge. The owner spotted what was going on and took drastic action.

:45:20.:45:24.

The removals truck arrived just after 1800 hours. The owner or

:45:25.:45:30.

driver of the vehicle then came back to the vehicle at 1825 hours and

:45:31.:45:33.

jumped up on to the truck, opened the car and removed the stolen

:45:34.:45:37.

disabled badge. It appears to me that he got flustered, got a bit

:45:38.:45:40.

worried, thought, "There's stolen badge on display. "I'll then get rid

:45:41.:45:48.

of that so there's no evidence." Of course, we've got loads of pictures

:45:49.:45:53.

of it on display. And there's something else in those pictures

:45:54.:45:58.

that makes them suspicious. The vehicle did have a zero cost road

:45:59.:46:02.

tax license. Either him or somebody else is getting free road fund

:46:03.:46:05.

license because of a disability. How is he able to jump up on to the back

:46:06.:46:12.

of a removals truck... Exactly. ..if he's so disabled that he can barely

:46:13.:46:21.

walk? Yeah. Mark and Marcin have seen enough. It's down to the police

:46:22.:46:25.

to confront the owner of the car - Feroz Gadit. But when he turns up at

:46:26.:46:29.

the car pound, he manages to talk his way out of being arrested. The

:46:30.:46:38.

sergeant can't believe his nerve. We were waiting for him to arrive, and

:46:39.:46:42.

he arrived there with his mother and another disabled badge which he

:46:43.:46:44.

showed the authorities down there, and as a result of that he managed

:46:45.:46:49.

to convince the staff that that was the badge that should have been in

:46:50.:46:52.

the car. The badge that was displayed was one he actually had

:46:53.:46:56.

found, and in fact it was all a legitimate mistake. So because of

:46:57.:46:59.

all the evidence he may have fooled them with, he was able to get away

:47:00.:47:04.

with it on that occasion. Sergeant Plummer thinks it's time for another

:47:05.:47:09.

chat with Feroz Gadit. Right we've all got our Met vests and things,

:47:10.:47:16.

have we? Brilliant, brilliant. For him to be using this badge when he

:47:17.:47:19.

can quite clearly afford to be paying his way when he parks his

:47:20.:47:23.

car, I think it's a kick in the face, really, for people that want

:47:24.:47:27.

to use that for their legitimate purposes where they are disabled.

:47:28.:47:30.

The best case scenario is going to be that he is there, cos I'd like to

:47:31.:47:35.

see the look on his face when we do knock on his door, and we do go in,

:47:36.:47:39.

and we do search his home. And hopefully he'll realise that this

:47:40.:47:43.

sort of thing is going to have an impact on him and his family. Do you

:47:44.:47:50.

live here at all? I do. You do? What's your name, Sir? Feroz Gadit.

:47:51.:47:59.

Feroz Gadit? Correct. OK. Officers are going to need to speak to you,

:48:00.:48:03.

Feroz, in a few moment, OK? Regarding? What it concerns is a

:48:04.:48:07.

disabled badge that you had in your car. OK. A few months ago, so when

:48:08.:48:11.

the officer comes out he'll speak to you about that and ask you a few

:48:12.:48:14.

questions around that, as well. You're going to be arrested for

:48:15.:48:17.

handling stolen goods, you're also going to be arrested for fraud and

:48:18.:48:21.

misrepresentation OK? You don't have to say anything, but it may harm

:48:22.:48:24.

your defence if you do not mention something when questioned something

:48:25.:48:27.

you later rely on in court, anything you do say may be given in evidence.

:48:28.:48:31.

OK, do you understand? I explained to them the whole scenario, I

:48:32.:48:34.

explained exactly what happened and I explained to them, you know, the,

:48:35.:48:37.

the circumstances in which I actually... I got that er that

:48:38.:48:41.

badge. I'm now going to tell you what's gong to happen next. We've

:48:42.:48:45.

got a warrant here to search your house, so we're going to be

:48:46.:48:48.

searching your premises and the cars. Having a nicked Blue Badge

:48:49.:48:51.

counts as handling stolen goods. It's a serious offence. They think

:48:52.:49:00.

the badge is most likely to be in the Audi on the drive. Got the keys

:49:01.:49:07.

at work, I believe, so I'll have to get keys sent down here, so someone

:49:08.:49:10.

can wait here and wait until the keys come over. How can the car be

:49:11.:49:15.

driven back here if the keys aren't here? So they look for the keys to

:49:16.:49:23.

the Audi, and it doesn't take long. Where's your spare set? Is that a

:49:24.:49:31.

spare set? Yeah. Mr Gadit changes his story. I have got it, that

:49:32.:49:37.

badge. Oh, where is it? I've got it, it's in the car. That's a Badge

:49:38.:49:49.

that's valid until 2014, so that would have been an extra couple of

:49:50.:49:52.

years, practically, of him parking for free We had another look inside

:49:53.:49:56.

it and we found the original one we was looking for, but we've also

:49:57.:50:08.

found another one. OK, right. I'm going to further arrest you now, OK?

:50:09.:50:12.

For being in possession of this, I'm going to further arrest you for

:50:13.:50:15.

handling stolen goods and false representation. And who is this

:50:16.:50:21.

turning up in the Bentley now? He's turning up at speed, he's just

:50:22.:50:25.

pulled up and I believe he may be another member of the family. That's

:50:26.:50:27.

four cars they've got. Your brother's been arrested for being in

:50:28.:50:32.

possession of stolen property. What property? The disabled badge. What

:50:33.:50:39.

disabled badge? He can discuss that with you later. Where is he? He's on

:50:40.:50:45.

his way to the police station. I'm, not going to have any more further

:50:46.:50:50.

to say to you about that for the moment. If you'd like to go and

:50:51.:50:53.

speak to your mother, cos she was quite upset. Why are you filming me?

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Feroz Gadit is shipped off to the station. I feel very, very pleased

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with how its gone. Totally, totally pleased. To turn up there and find

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that badge that he said had gone, to discover a second disabled badge, as

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well... This man's got no excuse at all, absolutely no excuse. It's very

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pleasing to have the result that we've got today. Gadit was fined

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?515 for handling stolen goods, but not charged with possession of the

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second Blue Badge. Julian Stone was convicted of ?130,000 of tax fraud,

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and sentenced to 16 months, suspended. Nicholas Harris was found

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to have fiddled ?59,000 and sentenced to six months. Both men

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were ordered to repay the cash. My mother-in-law's inside the building,

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do you know that? Tila Feiner was convicted of misusing a Blue Badge

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and was fined ?300. But what about Stephen Sussams? He's served six

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months, and now he's out. Well, this feels a little bit weird, cos the

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last time I was here I was chasing Stephen Sussams across this car park

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to try and grab a word with him and talk about the benefits he was

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claiming. That was a year ago, he's been to jail since then, and now he

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wants to have a word with me and have a proper sit down chat. So it

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feels odd, but I'm going to go and meet him. Mr Sussams? Come in, yes.

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Hi, I'm Richard Bilton, pleased to meet you, how are you? I'm good,

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come in. Thanks for agreeing to see me This is what happens when you do

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things properly. Well, in fairness, Mr Sussams, we did try and talk to

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you properly before, didn't we? No, you didn't. I bear you absolutely no

:52:53.:52:56.

malice or bad feeling whatsoever. In fact when you've finished the

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interview I'll even make you a cup of coffee. Great, that's very kind

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of you. Could do with one. I suppose what the viewer might think is you

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got send down for stealing 20-odd thousand pounds from the public

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purse, and you were claiming benefits that you weren't entitled

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to. Do you regret any of that? Do I regret it? Be more specific. Well,

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you were claiming money that you oughtn't to have had - that's why

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you went to jail. Yeah, I was claiming money that I shouldn't have

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had but I wasn't doing it knowingly. Was it my intention to deliberately

:53:29.:53:31.

take money from the public purse, as you say? And the answer to that is,

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categorically, no. Categorically, no, I did not. The fact that I

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received monies from the public purse which were paid incorrectly...

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Did I do that? Yes I did. Did I spend those monies? Yes, I

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redistributed them, yes, I did. You're an intelligent man. I can't

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believe that you didn't know that money was a benefit. That's just my

:53:52.:53:56.

opinion, and think that's probably what the jury thought, as well,

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but... I can have no complaints, because I've said on many occasions,

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ignorance is no defence... And that's what it was. How come you had

:54:05.:54:14.

this other life in Spain? Well, it wasn't another life, was it? Well,

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you bought a business, you bought a house. This did overlap with some of

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your benefit claims. No it doesn't. Your incapacity benefit claim

:54:25.:54:27.

mirrors the time that you had the lease on the bar. It's about the

:54:28.:54:32.

same time. Look, you're talking about something which is five years

:54:33.:54:36.

ago, since when I've had a heart attack, two heart operations and I'm

:54:37.:54:39.

waiting for a third. I can't give you dates. It never seems to be your

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fault. It wasn't your fault when you were taking from the public purse,

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it wasn't even your fault when you went to jail. One of the summaries

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was that you are a smooth talker, you can talk your way out of lots

:54:54.:54:57.

and lots of situations. What would you say to people watching this?

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What would they understand about you? What should they understand

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about me? I mean... I would let them make their own mind up. You and I

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have met now for the first time, we've had another frank exchange but

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at least we've got to talk properly. If all that you say is true, then

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you must be feel a very maligned character. Richard, it doesn't

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matter. Well, it does matter a bit, you went to jail... But hang on a

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second. Look, you're talking about the past again. The important people

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in my life, they know me well enough and they know the sort of person

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that I am. But I can only tell you what I know and as I understand it.

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Right, thank you. Right, sugar? Well, that was very odd, cos he

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makes a good case, you know. He a plausible guy, he's articulate. I'm

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still not sure I believe him, and I think he can't explain Spain away.

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So I think things are complicated, they're always complicated, but I

:56:05.:56:07.

think at the end of the day Stephen Sussams is a clever bloke and I

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think he knows what he's doing. And Croydon Council doesn't believe

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Sussams, either. His conviction for fraud was a breach of his tenancy

:56:19.:56:24.

agreement. They want his flat back. Crime has not paid for Stephen

:56:25.:56:25.

Sussams. Next time in On The Fiddle, how

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fraudsters exploit a weak system to make benefit claims across Europe...

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You want to pay it back? Yes, OK. ..and the smugglers who use fake

:56:57.:56:59.

boarding passes to buy millions of duty free fags. They want to ban me

:57:00.:57:04.

from telephone boxes for five years. They must think I'm Micky Bin Laden,

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not Micky Pitt.

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