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It started out as something tremendously complicated, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
suspected arson, potential homicide. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
West London, one of the busiest coroner's jurisdictions | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
in England and Wales, with over 4,000 cases a year. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
Today, coroner Alison Thompson is about to enter court | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
to solve the mystery of a man who died in suspicious circumstances. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
Bedroom two, where the casualty was found... | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
It's the culmination of a six-month investigation by the coroner's team. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:32 | |
From the moment that death has been reported, | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
there's a whole play going on. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
Recovery of the body, police involvement. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
Police entered into the premises, found the victim... | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
In her court, the coroner must establish the facts. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
Who was the deceased? | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
When, where and how did he die? | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
You have to go in with a flexible head. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
The unexpected happens and we have to be ready for it. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
When life's end is unexplained | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
the answer falls to Her Majesty's Coroner. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
Court rise! | 0:01:02 | 0:01:03 | |
Saturday 12th March. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
What should be one of the quietest days of the week | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
for the coroner's team at Uxbridge Mortuary. But not today. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
A man has died in suspicious circumstances. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
Police and a pathologist have been called in to investigate. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:39 | |
The circumstances of the incident are as follows - | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
some builders noticed a male walk into the block of flats, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
then heard some banging, ringing a bell, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
calling out as if for the occupant to open the door. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
This carried on for about ten minutes. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
From what I understand, it then went quiet for a further ten minutes. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
The witnesses see the same male exit the building. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
A few moments later, there was smoke seen coming from the address. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:12 | |
Police entered into the premises, found the victim, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
it appeared to the officers there were signs that he'd inhaled smoke. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
While police outline the case, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
mortuary technicians prepare for a special postmortem. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:28 | |
These highly detailed forensic examinations | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
are only carried out when a death is suspicious | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
He's been taken to hospital. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
But presumably pronounced dead fairly soon thereafter. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
Yes. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
The 41-year-old man died yesterday afternoon, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
and the special postmortem must be held as soon as possible | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
to preserve crucial forensic evidence. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
Of significance, there's one person in custody. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
-Is that... This is the male that was seen banging on the doors? -Yes. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
As the man's death looks suspicious, police have limited time | 0:03:03 | 0:03:08 | |
in which to charge the suspect or release him on bail. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
Did you get a time, Howard? 0940, OK? | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
Dr Ashley Fegan-Earl is one of only 30 | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
Home Office forensic pathologists | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
qualified to conduct special postmortems. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
It's his job to determine the cause of death for the coroner. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
He begins by examining the body for any external injuries | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
which might suggest foul play. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
We've just got some of these bruises... | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
If you want to do it like that, that's fine. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
The police investigation is being led | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
by Detective Sergeant Nick Doherty. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
He'll be liaising with coroner's officer Shirley Stewart. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:01 | |
As soon as we have some indication that it's going suspicious | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
or non-suspicious, as best we can determine, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
then I can deal with the suspect. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
Samples of DNA, hair, and body fluids have to be collected, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
meticulously logged, and stored, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
preserved as evidence in a potential criminal trial. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
Externally, we haven't found any injuries that give cause for concern that, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:27 | |
for example, would suggest he'd been in a fight or anything like that. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:32 | |
We'll examine all the internal organs to look for any natural disease, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
any injuries that are present, | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
or to look for whether there's evidence of inhalation of smoke into the airways. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
Even though Dr Fegan-Earl has ruled out an assault, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
DS Doherty needs to know if the fire contributed to the death. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:52 | |
He may have to apply for an extension | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
to keep the suspect in custody | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
I've spoken to Shirley. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
By about midday we should have an answer. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
So what I'll do, as soon as I get the answer, I'll give you a ring. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
If we need the extension, we need to do it before 1pm. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
It needs to be done in person and if we're running low on time, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
it's not going to happen, they'll have to kick him out, they'll have to release him. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:17 | |
After nearly three hours, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
the special postmortem is almost complete. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
There's no soot in the airways, Howard. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
-No soot? -No. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
I think, at the end of that, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:36 | |
we haven't got a definitive cause of death. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
That said, I cannot see any positive pathological evidence | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
to suggest he's been the victim of any form of assault. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
Perhaps most importantly, there is no evidence | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
of inhalation of fire fumes, so I can't see any sooty debris | 0:05:49 | 0:05:54 | |
extending down the airways, and branching into the lungs. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:59 | |
That doesn't explain the fire at the moment, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
but from the pathological features, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
he was not alive when that fire was on-going. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
We come down to further investigations. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
I think probably most importantly, toxicology, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
to see what drugs or alcohol are present in his system, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
which may be, therefore, relevant to the death. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
In an intricate case like this, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
Shirley can attend the scene of the death | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
to assist in the investigation. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
Her role is independent of police - | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
she's looking for clues for the coroner. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
We are the voice of the deceased and we are there to protect them | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
because they can no longer talk for themselves. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
It's up to us to investigate the death, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
to establish the circumstances, to be able to satisfy a family | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
that everything has been done correctly | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
and within the parameters of the coroners' law. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
There is an awful lot of comparison with Silent Witness, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
Waking The Dead, CSI, Quincy... | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
SHE LAUGHS Quincy's another thing they call you. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
That always makes me laugh. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
If only we could solve everything in half an hour, eh? | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
It's Saturday afternoon. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:26 | |
At the scene, police and fire investigators search for evidence | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
that could reveal how the fire started and how the man died. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
My name's Shirley, I'm from the coroner's office | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
I'm Remi, the crime scene examiner. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
I think, in here we found some bottles of medication | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
that have got the deceased person's name on. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
Just in case we find this in his blood | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
from the postmortem this morning, we're doing toxicology. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
If they could be seized so we have the physical evidence it is actually his | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
because it'll have his name on it. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
Also, in the living room, I've noticed there's some strips of tablets, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
I haven't been able to see what they are. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
But if you could take those as well. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
-OK, I'll take a photograph in situ first. -Please. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
-And then I'll package them later. -That's lovely. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
And if we give them to Nick he can store them until such time | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
the investigation is completed by the police and coroner. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:28 | |
You OK with that? Thanking you. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
The dead man was discovered on his bed. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
There are prescription drugs and alcohol on most surfaces. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
The London Fire Brigade investigation team | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
are now focused on the bedroom next door, where the fire started. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:49 | |
We've found a newspaper which is a day old, previous day, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
and we found it right in the area burning which is here. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
Was it just lying on the floor? Was there other stuff underneath it? | 0:08:57 | 0:09:02 | |
It appeared to have been pushed under. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
It had been pushed under the bed amongst all the other storage, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
the videos, the boxes. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:09 | |
The fire spread to the underside of the mattress. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
Burnt along the underside of the mattress. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
The heat's radiated down to the rest of the stuff. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
Up any easily flammable materials or easily ignitable materials. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
So at this point, is there anything to indicate what started that? | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
In our opinion it's application of naked flame by persons unknown. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
In other words, the fire was started deliberately, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
but they don't know by whom, or why. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
After ten hours of investigation, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
Shirley's work for the coroner is only just beginning. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
Coroner Alison Thompson lives and works in West London. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
Her team deal with an average of 75 deaths each week. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
The leafy surrounds of Richmond in spring | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
remind her of the cases she's dealt with over the past 12 years. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
I go to work and I sort of pass | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
the scenes of previous cases, so I always remember them. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:16 | |
I'm particularly careful | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
if it's an area where there's been a road traffic accident. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
So, I'm hyper-sensitive to the locations I see. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
It's really beautiful. Unfortunately, this is also an area where we have a number of suicides. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:29 | |
It's got lakes, beautiful ducks, black swans. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
It's just a lovely part of the park | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
with rhododendrons and... it's a beauty spot, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
and unfortunately a lot of people choose to go there | 0:10:38 | 0:10:43 | |
and hang themselves. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
And seeing the aircraft, we're on the flight path, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
and we've had a number of fatalities | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
of people who have stowed away in the undercarriage. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
One of them fell fairly recently into the local Sainsbury's car park. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
Previous boyfriends said that I saw everything as danger. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
I'd be on a cable car on a skiing holiday and be terrified | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
or I'd be watching children in a playground | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
thinking of health and safety rather than, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
"Isn't that a beautiful sight?" | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
So, yes, they're in danger all around them. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
Danger everywhere. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:16 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
Good morning. Coroner's office can I help you? | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
What's the name of the deceased? | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
Alison's court is in Fulham, where she has five investigating officers | 0:11:23 | 0:11:28 | |
who are the first port of call for all sudden and unexplained deaths. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:33 | |
We're not going to hurt her, you know we can't hurt her. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
But I think we need to find out what happened. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
With 12 years' experience, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
Shane Spencer is one of the longest-serving coroner's officers. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
Dealing with grieving families is a tough part of her job. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
All right then, I will do, Maggie, take care. Bye-bye. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
Shane came from the Ambulance Service, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
so she's got nerves of steel to able to manage that. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
Today, she's handling an unusual road traffic death | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
involving an 81-year-old local businessman. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
This gentleman was over from Spain to attend the funeral of his brother. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:20 | |
And outside his home, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
I think he was returning to the home address in Richmond, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
and he was involved in a collision with a pedal cyclist. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
Sustained serious injuries at the scene. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
The accident happened on the 21st, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
and he passed away on the 24th. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
Good afternoon, is Eduardo there, please? | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
It's the coroner's office. Hello. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
It's just to let you know the results | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
of your father's postmortem. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:57 | |
The examination has taken place | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
and the cause of death will come back as a head injury. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
We will open and adjourn the inquest today, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
then we will issue all the paperwork tomorrow, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
and he'll be released to your undertakers. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
All right? OK, and, obviously, my condolences. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:20 | |
I've already been informed by the undertakers that they want | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
Dad for cremation and that'll all be sorted, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
and he'll be released to them tomorrow, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
or as soon as they can come and get him. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
All right? He was a character, wasn't he? | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
Yeah, yeah. Thank you and again my condolences, sir. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:41 | |
Thank you, bye-bye. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
Shane has to brief the coroner at the beginning of every case | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
her court deals with. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
This gentleman by the name of Fernando Izquierdo. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
On the 21st April, he was involved in a collision with a pedal cyclist, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:58 | |
actually a few yards from his home. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
The family have a restaurant named after their father. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
Well, in that case I think I might know it, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
as it is quite a well-known tapas restaurant in Richmond | 0:14:08 | 0:14:13 | |
up by the station. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:14 | |
I think you're right, ma'am, I think, yes. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
Will we issue the paperwork now to let him go? | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
We will release it in the morning. Yeah. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
With any case where the family wishes to bury their loved one | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
overseas, the coroner must sign an "Out of England" form to authorise it - | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
although it's not always necessary. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
We won't need to, he's going as hand luggage - | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
his ashes are going back to Spain. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
-Oh, sorry, I'm sorry. -No, that's fine, ma'am. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
They did say he would quite like the idea of that. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:43 | |
He sounded quite a sweet gentleman, but the family are really pleasant. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:48 | |
So, I wonder what the police are doing with that, if anything? | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
It's Hampton that are dealing, Hampton Traffic Garage. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
Hampton - the specialist Collision Investigation Unit | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
of the Metropolitan Police. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:03 | |
The team here deal with traffic fatalities | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
for the whole of West London. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:07 | |
Investigator PC Adrian Armstrong has recreated the scene | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
of Fernando Izquierdo's traffic collision. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
I investigate on behalf of the coroner. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
Finding out how somebody died is the most important job | 0:15:20 | 0:15:25 | |
that a police officer can ever do. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
The laser reconstruction allows him to calculate vehicle speeds | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
and breaking distances with pin-point accuracy. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
This is the view that Mr Izquierdo would have had looking up the road | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
as he looked back towards the bus. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
Now, the witnesses said that Mr Izquierdo simply didn't look before he crossed the road. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
But it seems far more likely that he in fact did look, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
and that he was happy that there was a bus there, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
and that he had time to cross before the bus reached him. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
The bus itself has provided vital evidence. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
Its onboard cameras captured the collision from four different angles. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
Mr Izquierdo just didn't expect a cyclist to come around the bus. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
The cyclist reacted in less than one second's time, but it was too late. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:13 | |
'I'm on call, so I don't tend to plan much when I'm call, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:28 | |
'to be honest with you. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:29 | |
'Because it's always when you're in Marks & Spencer's | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
'or somewhere like that that the pager goes off | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
'and all of a sudden you'll find lots of people around you. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
'It's the fascination of the unknown, I guess.' | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
7.00, Monday morning. At the coroner's Uxbridge office, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:47 | |
Shirley Stewart catches up on the weekend's cases. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
Never regained consciousness. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
Next door, it's the responsibility of the all-female technician team | 0:16:53 | 0:16:58 | |
of Cheryl, Mary-Anne and Cassie to look after the deceased | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
before, during and after the postmortem. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
I've been here full-time for a couple of years now. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
Two-and-a-half years? | 0:17:09 | 0:17:10 | |
But I worked before that for a couple of years | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
as a sort of as and when - Saturday girl, if you like! | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
Like in a hairdresser's. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
I'm not a spiritualist person or anything like that. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
'But it does make me sort of see that we... | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
'This is a vessel that carries us around day to day,' | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
and that what we are and who we are and our beliefs, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
and the way we treat people, that is your spirit - and that goes. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:36 | |
This is going to sound silly - | 0:17:36 | 0:17:37 | |
but I actually do believe that there is something else after. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:42 | |
I do believe that. I'd like to believe that. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
I'd like to think that you go elsewhere. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
You know, and you're at peace. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
You see quite ironic, funny things sometimes. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:55 | |
Sometimes you might get an elderly gentleman come in with | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
a pair of ladies' underwear on, you know, little things like that really. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:06 | |
Yeah, you're like, "Oh, wasn't expecting that!" | 0:18:06 | 0:18:11 | |
You go to do the head and the wig falls off, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
and you're not expecting it to be there - | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
you know, it's just silly things, isn't it, really? | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
You've got to be human, you've got to be caring here, haven't you? | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
You'd never say, "that one over there with the funny hair." | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
That'd be dreadful, no! | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
"Gentleman", "lady", "mister", "misses". | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
Yeah. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:38 | |
Again, that's about having respect for what you're dealing with. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:44 | |
And it is, it's huge. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:45 | |
In the office next door, Shirley is making the difficult call | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
to the sister of the man who died in the weekend's suspicious fire. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
The police believe the man is 41-year-old Terry Williams, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
but to be sure, they need confirmation from his family. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
So at this point in time we don't know why your brother's died, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
but we can be sure that he hasn't died as a result of the fire. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
All right? | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
What we really need to do is make arrangements for either | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
yourself or another member of the family to attend | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
the mortuary in Uxbridge to formally identify your brother. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
You'll be able to do that, will you, Jill - you're happy to do that? | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
It's important to make that memory for the family fairly decent, | 0:19:33 | 0:19:38 | |
because that might be the last time they see them, | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
and unfortunately with a death like that, the family have to come in | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
and identify, formally, the body. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
And it would be cruel to not present it well. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
You know, the most important thing at the moment is to have him | 0:19:52 | 0:19:57 | |
formally identified by yourself, | 0:19:57 | 0:19:58 | |
so that you can have a bit of peace of mind. All right? | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
You're welcome. Yes, I'll be here. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
All right, Jill, thank you for your time. Bye-bye. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
When you've put a body out to view and you think, "Oh, God, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
"they really look quite nice," it's a lovely feeling. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
If you can make it just a tiny bit more bearable by small gestures, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:26 | |
then that's what it's all about, isn't it? | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:20:34 | 0:20:35 | |
Hello, Alison Thompson. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
'Hello, ma'am, it's Shirley.' | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
Shirley, good morning, how are you? | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
'I'm fine, thank you.' | 0:20:42 | 0:20:43 | |
I know you've had a very, very tricky weekend, and you must be exhausted. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:49 | |
-A little bit. -'Yes. You OK, though?' | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
Yes, I'm fine, absolutely fine, I'm just really ringing | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
to update you on what happened on Saturday. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
'We've taken a sample of blood, urine and vitreous humour, | 0:20:56 | 0:21:01 | |
'because, at the address, were found some medication' | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
and the alcohol - lots of empty alcohol bottles and cans. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:10 | |
And they'll be forwarded, with your consent, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
-to the forensic toxicology labs for analysis. -'Yes. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:18 | |
'The medication is definitely his, and it's his sleeping tablets.' | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
If it's OK, ma'am, we can open the inquest, please? | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
Yes, we can do that either this afternoon or tomorrow morning, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
-whichever is easiest. -Thank you very much. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
Oh, well, well done, Shirley, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
and I know you will have got everybody organised! | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
I'm told I did! | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
'Yes, well, I expect nothing less, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
'I know you will have done and thank you for that.' | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
Morning, Tox! | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
Toxicology samples, like those belonging to Terry Williams, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:54 | |
are dispatched to St George's, University of London, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
for specialist testing. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
Here, they can isolate poisons, street drugs | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
and over-the-counter prescriptions. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
The toxicology team's analysis of Terry's samples could prove vital to the coroner's investigation. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:16 | |
Do come in! Morning. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
Thank you, ma'am, nice to meet you. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
-My name's Nick Doherty, I'm a DS. -Do have a seat. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
I thought in view of the circumstances of the case | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
it would be useful to have you here at the formal opening | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
of the inquest if that's all right? | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
And so what I'm going to ask you to do is simply outline | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
the overall circumstances of the case, if you can. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
The situation I have, is I've got two different incidents. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
I've got the incident with the deceased | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
and obviously the incident of the fire. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
The weekend's investigation concluded that the fire didn't cause | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
Terry Williams' death, but it was started deliberately. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
The arson suspect has been released on bail, | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
pending further inquiries. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
Who started the fire is still unknown. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
And now, Terry's flatmate has come forward with new information. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
I don't know if you're aware, ma'am, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
there is a witness that also resides in that flat. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
He saw the deceased take some pills earlier that morning. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
With the pill packets that Shirley gathered from the scene, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
and Detective Sergeant Doherty's new witness evidence, | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
the coroner is closer to establishing how Terry died. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
NEWS FOOTAGE: Police believe a man whose body was found yesterday | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
was a student who'd been missing for two weeks... | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
A man believed to be in his 20s has been shot dead in... | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
An elderly woman has died in a house fire, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
the cause is being investigated. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
Coroner's officer Shane Spencer is on her way to Hampton | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
to collect the final police report on the death | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
of Richmond restaurateur Fernando Izquierdo. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
'You do feel for your families, don't get me wrong, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
'but you can't take it all on board. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
'If I was sobbing with each and every one, I'd be a complete wreck. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:18 | |
'I'd probably be in a folder somewhere on another coroner's officers' desk!' | 0:24:18 | 0:24:23 | |
Once she has the police file, the inquest date can be set. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
Sadly, it's not the first time that Shane | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
and Detective Inspector Tom Sheridan have had to deal with a death in the Izquierdo family. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:36 | |
Good afternoon. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
Hello, Shane, nice to see you, welcome to Hampton. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
-Come and take a seat. -Thank you. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
This family, I think we've met before, haven't we? | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
-Yes, we have, haven't we? -Under very tragic circumstances, too. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
It was the grandson. The grandson of Fernando | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
sadly died in a collision with a bus on Kingston Bridge. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:59 | |
That's right, yeah, about two years previously. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
All our collisions are tragic, but this is especially so | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
because they've been here before. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
Yes, I don't know in 12 years I've ever had it where it's been the same family. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
Sometimes you think, "Why does it have to come to somebody's door again?" | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
It's just tragic. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
The report that we've given you here contains a number of maps | 0:25:20 | 0:25:25 | |
and diagrams and calculations in there that show the coroner | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
how we've come to the conclusions that we've come to. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
The final piece of evidence in Shane's investigation | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
is PC Armstrong's analysis of the CCTV footage. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
As the bus comes to the stop, the driver told us in his statement | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
that quite a lot of people got off. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
And we can see Mr Izquierdo. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
-Oh, I see him. -Coming out of his front door, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
the bus is indicating to the right, starting to pull away. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
-My goodness! -You can see both of them were knocked out by the accident. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
Good grief, that is quite an impact, isn't it? Oh, gosh. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:09 | |
The cyclist did nothing wrong. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
He was going at a reasonable speed - | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
he did everything the highway code asks of you. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
Coming round the bus, the last thing you would've expected | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
-was someone to step out in front of you, isn't it? -Absolutely. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:25 | |
It's awful. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:27 | |
It's down to a split second, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
how tenuous your link is to this life. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
If he'd have left home five minutes earlier, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
or five minutes later... | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
Do you know what I mean? | 0:26:43 | 0:26:44 | |
Or walked up the road a little bit further, before he'd crossed, | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
and that's what it's down to - just split seconds. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
In the name of the Father | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
St Elizabeth's, Richmond, and the family and friends | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
of Fernando Izquierdo have gathered to bid him a final farewell. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:14 | |
My dear friends in Christ, let us prepare ourselves | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
to celebrate the holy sacrifice of the Mass, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
which we offer this morning for the happy repose of Fernando. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:25 | |
For his son Eduardo, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
it's a chance to fondly remember his father, | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
the patriarch of a large West London family. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
When he was younger, he was... | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
a loveable rogue, you could call him. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
He moved to London in the mid-'50s. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
He came with a suitcase and not a penny on him, and worked his way up. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
We all ended up in catering my brother was a chef in the Hilton, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
and another brother was a chef in the Ritz, and we just came back | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
and Dad said, "Let's open a restaurant together." | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
Obviously, the restaurant's called Don Fernando's after my dad, | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
and it is him. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:03 | |
If you look around, just about everything has come from Spain | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
and everything was chosen by my dad. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
In fact, every time you look round you see Dad, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
which is nice in some ways, but it's a bit sad as well. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
He actually passed away on Easter morning, | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
with myself and my older brother | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
just there with him holding his hand, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
so that was nice. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:23 | |
Mum would have liked to have been there, | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
but we had to keep sending her home because she was not in a good state. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:30 | |
They'd just celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
the week before... | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
..and I think it hit her pretty hard. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
Well, it hit us all hard, but obviously Mum's the worst, | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
so we have to look after her now. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
That concludes all the evidence that I propose to call in this case, | 0:28:55 | 0:29:00 | |
the sad death of Mr Fernando Izquierdo Alvarez. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:06 | |
After a five-month investigation, | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
the coroner's case is complete. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
I will record a verdict of accidental death. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
I think it was a genuine accident. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
I'm not here as a bereavement counsellor or social worker. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
I'm here to do a legal job, | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
but if people walk out feeling, | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
"We're more settled in our minds about it, | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
"we can live with this now, we can come to terms with the death," | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
then that has to be good. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
No-one was to blame. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
You think all sorts of things | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
when people are dying, when you can see your loved ones struggling. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:46 | |
Then when you sit down and look at the bare facts | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
and the inquest helps with that it's, um... | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
No, it's very helpful, | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
and it helps you move on. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
He lived life to the full. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
Although you care and it's affected you, just be happy that you had | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
such a great dad and that he had a good life, you know, and he did. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
Dad would have liked to have been hit by a Ferrari, really, not a bicycle. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:15 | |
Probably when we go to Spain we'll tell everyone he was hit by something like that. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
It's a new week at Uxbridge Mortuary | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
and Home Office pathologist Dr Ashley Fegan-Earl | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
is preparing for the day's post-mortem examinations. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:30:37 | 0:30:38 | |
Good morning, coroner's office, may I help you? | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
In the office next door, Shirley Stewart is following up | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
on Terry Williams' case and fielding the steady flow of new ones. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:50 | |
Coroner's office? | 0:30:50 | 0:30:51 | |
It's four routine cases today | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
so...that's not too bad. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
Did the London Ambulance Service bring him into casualty? | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
And his date of birth, please? And died when, please? | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
And his first name, please? | 0:31:07 | 0:31:08 | |
And his family's wishes are for organ donation? | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
We're all too well aware of the movies, | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
where everything in forensics is so precise, so accurate. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
You'll see some films | 0:31:18 | 0:31:19 | |
where we're told exactly how many hours and minutes ago they died. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
But in reality, can we do that? The answer's no. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
Fly eggs. It's fly eggs in his nose. Get rid of them! | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
They will automatically seek out the odour of death. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
That's one of the few sciences that we do have any faith in. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:41 | |
Because insects visit a body in a distinct order. By looking at the species that are present, | 0:31:41 | 0:31:46 | |
the entomologists can make an assessment of the time since death. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
Oh, wow, look at that. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
That's the faxed toxicology report | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
for Terry Williams. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
Oh, my goodness me. | 0:31:58 | 0:31:59 | |
What we do see, I suppose, in the context | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
of daily life is very surreal, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
but it's something that the vast majority of people | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
if they were exposed to it, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
would get very used to. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
So, seeing these bodies here today is no different to me | 0:32:12 | 0:32:16 | |
seeing a car travelling down the street. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
Who's next? | 0:32:20 | 0:32:21 | |
With the toxicology results now in, Shirley can give the Coroner | 0:32:27 | 0:32:31 | |
her final briefing on the Terry Williams case. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
Now we do know that this gentleman actually went to the chemist | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
-the day before... -Yes. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
-..and cashed in his prescription of ten Zopiclone tablets... -Right. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
..and the empty wrappers were found at the address | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
and were seized by police. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:47 | |
Excellent. Have we got the toxic range there? | 0:32:47 | 0:32:51 | |
Right, so we're quite clear, 0.58, | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
-we're into the fatal range, without a doubt. -Yeah. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
-Any previous overdoses? -Yes - he does have a history. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
Feeling actively suicidal, March of 2010. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
Again, suicidal ideation plus, plus, plus, | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
a little bit later in that month. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
We've got a clear overdose, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
we've got obtaining the medication a day before, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
and we've got an empty pack of ten tablets. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
What we don't have is any note found, | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
so we haven't got any written evidence of intention | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
-to take his own life. -Yeah. No. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
We'll obviously determine it on the evidence we have, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
but that's a matter for me at the inquest! | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
But, no, that's helpful. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
And the chap who was arrested originally? | 0:33:35 | 0:33:40 | |
The arson charges against this man were dropped earlier this week | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
and he has been informed of that. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
Good. Right. I think we could get that on pretty soon. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
OK, lovely. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:50 | |
I'll speak to his sister | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
and then find out if they've got any dates | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
they specifically need to avoid before setting the inquest. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
Yes, with the summer holidays planned. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
The Coroner may have all the written evidence she needs in Terry's case... | 0:34:01 | 0:34:05 | |
..but what his sister Jill knows about her brother is also important to the investigation. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:12 | |
The day we had the knock at the door from the policeman | 0:34:13 | 0:34:18 | |
to say that Terry died and there was a house fire, | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
you know, all sorts of things go through your head | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
and the first thing you think is that, "He's been burned." | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
That first five days were hard, but slowly, slowly, | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
it was all starting to... We were finding sort of, more answers | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
which, you know, were bringing a light to everything. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
We have to be very honest with you, | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
-and you've heard things that perhaps you wouldn't want to hear. -Yeah. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:50 | |
And, you know, I can't imagine how that must have made you feel. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
You know, we had quite a few arguments, | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
but it was only because... | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
to tell him that he needed to go and get help. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
Somewhere in between the age of 14 to 16, | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
he was sexually abused... | 0:35:09 | 0:35:13 | |
..and he hit the drink quite hard. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:19 | |
And then it's sort of downhill from then on, really. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:23 | |
Personality changed. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:24 | |
He was sort of relying on alcohol every day after he finished work. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:29 | |
He used to cry | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
a hell of a lot. He used to sob his heart out. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
Sometimes we just couldn't reach him. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
He was just so mentally scarred. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
It's Wednesday 7th September, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
six months after Terry Williams' death. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
His sister Jill is attending court | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
to hear the coroner decide how, when and where he died. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
It started out as something tremendously complicated, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
as a suspected arson, a potential homicide, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
and all that, as far as this man's death is concerned, | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
has turned out to be a peripheral matter. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
A big investigation from the police point of view, quite rightly so, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
and one that's still technically open. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
But I'm going to focus very much on him. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
The impression I get is that he thinks suicidal thoughts | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
when he's had a lot to drink. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:26 | |
That doesn't necessarily mean he intends the outcome to be fatal. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
We'll see. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
I don't know which way it will go. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
Right, OK, off we go. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
Court rise! | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
Good morning, everyone, please sit down. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
English law does not allow filming in court, | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
so the coroner has re-recorded her summing-up for this case. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
So what evidence is there of Mr Williams' intentions? | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
His flatmate saw him | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
on two or three occasions swallowing tablets with alcohol. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
I bear in mind the evidence | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
of the key worker who doesn't believe | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
he had suicidal thoughts at all. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
I was minded that the evidence did not persuade me | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
to the required standard of proof. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
But what I have found to be very compelling evidence in this case | 0:37:20 | 0:37:24 | |
is the evidence of Mr Williams' sister Jillian. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:29 | |
She felt very strongly that on this particular occasion, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:34 | |
everything was different. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
I AM satisfied, bearing in mind all that I have heard, | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
that Mr Williams DID intend to take his own life | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
that particular morning. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
I didn't expect that it would go that way. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
It just shows you one must always keep an open mind. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
The sister knew him better than anybody and she was very much | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
of the view that he had intended that on this particular occasion. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
He woke up that morning knowing what he wanted to do. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
He just couldn't cope no more with the demons in his head. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:15 | |
It was... It was, erm... | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
He decided to call it a day, I'm sure. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
-We WERE close, yeah. -Mmm. -We were close. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
If we went out, he would be there, behind me, "Oi, that's my sister!" | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
-That's the last thing you need when you're a teenager, isn't it?! -That's right. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
But I knew he was always there. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
We miss him. We do really, really miss him. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
We miss him putting the world to rights by shouting and hollering. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:48 | |
We just miss everything, you know - his bads, his goods. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
Everything. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
We really do. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:55 | |
I know that everybody has worked so hard for Terry. | 0:38:55 | 0:39:00 | |
And I really am grateful for everything everybody's done, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
especially you, Shirley. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
Thank you. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
How do I let off steam? Something that involves life and living. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
I love Queen. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
I LOVE Queen. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
I want to break free! | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
# I want to break free | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
# I want to break free from your lies | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
# You're so self satisfied | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
# I don't need you | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
# I've got to break free | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
# God knows | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
# God knows I want to break free. # | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
A bit of a rock chick! | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:39:48 | 0:39:49 |