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Today is relatively unusual. Mostly with train cases, you have a very clear deliberate act. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:08 | |
West London. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
One of the busiest Coroner's jurisdictions in the country, | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
with over 4,000 cases a year. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
He gets almost sucked into the train. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
Today, Coroner Alison Thompson is about to enter court, | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
to resolve the mystery of a young man who was hit by a train. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:28 | |
Hanging around on a platform, plucking up courage, | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
is quite consistent. We see that a lot. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
It's the culmination of a nine-month investigation by the Coroner's team. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
It happens so quickly. You can already see the train coming. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:43 | |
In court, Alison must establish the facts. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
Who was the deceased? | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
When, where and how did he die? | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
When life's end is unexplained, | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
the answer falls to Her Majesty's Coroner. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
Court rise. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:04 | |
March 2011. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
British Transport Police pass the case of the young Polish man | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
to the Coroner's Office. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
Coroner's Officer, Shirley Stewart, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
is trying to retrace the man's final fatal steps with PC Steve Tucker. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:33 | |
This is the CCTV taken from the station | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
and it shows the deceased getting off the train | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
and arriving at Hangar Lane Station. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
Have we established where he's been before he gets here? | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
Yeah, he'd been drinking after work in the Park Royal area. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
By all accounts, he's not a big drinker. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
He doesn't drink, he's not a boozer. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
What he appears to do, for whatever reason, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
he gets off the train here, one stop too early. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
You'll see him just taking a seat now. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
He gets off that train, and he sits down. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
And he just stays there for 35 minutes. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
His head goes back | 0:02:10 | 0:02:11 | |
and he basically settles down for a nice little sleep. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
See, it's a classic pose really. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
It's running fast, we see people going about their business. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
People going up to him. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:24 | |
You see members of the public going up to him. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
What can you do? He's asleep. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
Watch in a minute, and you'll see, he starts to wake up. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
There, you see, he starts to get up, and the trouble he has getting up. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
He's got no balance, and when he does get to his feet, | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
he doesn't stay there long. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
Oh dear. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:53 | |
Straight down onto the platform. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
Seeing that the man is in trouble, two bystanders try to help. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
They've been interviewed by PC Tucker. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
They can tell he smells of drink, he's not with it. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
And then, up to the end there, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
you can quite clearly see in that shot there, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
he's stood right in front of those barriers. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
Those barriers, they're those swing gates that open. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
They say, "don't go beyond this point, high voltage, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
"trespassers will be prosecuted, staff only." | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
Ignoring the warnings, the man walks straight through the gates... | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
and onto the tracks. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
The two bystanders implore him to come back. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
He doesn't listen. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
It happens so quickly. You can see the train coming. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
There we go. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:57 | |
Now, we've got no footage of the impact. None at all, there's no cameras covering it. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
But his final moments were seen by the two bystanders, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
who are clearly distraught. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:08 | |
He's fallen to the floor | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
and dragged up against the platform, he impacts the platform. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
The Coroner needs to establish why the young man | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
ignored the warnings and walked through the gates. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
She'll need to decide if he meant to take his own life, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
or whether it was a tragic accident. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
Clearly, I accept you could interpret the fact | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
that somebody is on railway tracks | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
and isn't coming back when encouraged to do so | 0:04:47 | 0:04:52 | |
by members of the public, as possibly an act of self-harm. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
It's the start of a new week at Fulham Coroner's Office. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
Coroner's Office, can I help you? | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
John Mitchell, Coroner's Office. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
With a high volume of deaths to deal with from the weekend, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
it's often the busiest time. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
First of all, may I pass on my condolences. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
And don't hesitate to call if you want to know anything. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
Because of the amyl nitrate that was found with him, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
we have to do a postmortem. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
Forensic Pathologist Dr Olaf Biedrzycki | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
is performing his third postmortem examination of the day. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
Our next is Michael Downey, 3782011. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
The body is that of a white male, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:51 | |
medium build with no hypostatise | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
and no significant signs of decomposition. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
Now, this poor gentleman | 0:05:59 | 0:06:00 | |
may have a condition called asbestosis. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
Each year, the West London Coroner investigates some 30 cases of industrially related deaths. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:10 | |
One of the biggest killers is asbestos. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
As a plasterer in the '60s and '70s, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
Michael may have been exposed to the toxic building material. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
Just opened up the trachea and the right main bronchus, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
and as I'm squeezing, I can see pus within the airways. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:33 | |
This is what we call bronchial pneumonia. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
And it's a direct consequence of his diseased lungs. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:42 | |
But Michael's pneumonia does not confirm asbestosis. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
So, Doctor Biedrzycki is cutting small lung samples | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
to send for specialist analysis. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
They'll look for fibres invisible to the naked eye. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
We're just going to take five pieces of lung tissue | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
to look for the asbestos bodies, and to quantify how many there are. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:08 | |
Dr Biedrzycki's conclusions are not only important for the Coroner, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
they'll help Michael's family to determine whether his job contributed to his death. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:18 | |
I think the family are deserving of knowing more about it | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
and nationally, we need to know more about it. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
It's on the increase and it's expected to peak around 2020. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
During the 1950s and '60s, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
it was in widespread use as an insulating material, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
an industry where people were not aware | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
of the horrible consequences of it. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
With the examination complete, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
deputy mortuary manager Lenny Browse can prepare Michael to be returned to his family. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:51 | |
Even after 20 years in the job, Lenny still wonders | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
about the personalities of the people in his care. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
When someone dies, and is required to have an examination, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
you still get remembered as a human being. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
'Human beings are more than a physical form. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
'Your voice, the way you turn in your sleep. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
'Once was toddling away, short trousers, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
'school cap and blazer.' | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
What made them laugh? What were they allergic to? | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
Did they like dancing? | 0:08:26 | 0:08:27 | |
I assumed that when he died, he'd just got, you know, old and tired. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:38 | |
When I heard his body had gone to the Coroner's Office, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
I was surprised and I thought, what's that about? | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
Michael lived in West London with his family. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
He leaves two daughters and three grandchildren, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
daughter Mandy and granddaughter Bonnie have fond memories of him. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:56 | |
'He used to laugh so much, he used to bring tears to his eyes, | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
'and it made everybody else laugh, didn't it? | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
'Yeah, he had an infectious laugh.' | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
Christmas, obviously Christmas day, I don't know where you was actually. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:15 | |
That's a quite a nice one of Dad, isn't it? | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
'He was a good dad. He was a good dad, I loved him,' | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
I was very close to him | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
and he was good to Bonnie, used to babysit for Bonnie. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
Shall I tell them about the time we went to the pub? | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
I hadn't seen him for a couple of months. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
We walked in the pub to see him, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
and he turned round to my dad. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
I'd lost quite a lot of weight and he turned round to my dad | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
and he went, "Oh Mark, she's got that disease, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
"she's got that anaraxia, she's got that anaraxia." | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
I was like, "Granddad, it's called anorexia, and no, I haven't got it." | 0:09:47 | 0:09:52 | |
He had lots of friends, he used to like going to the pub | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
and have his pints of Guinness, which was his favourite tipple. | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
-Guinness was his favourite tipple. -And a bit of brandy. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
If the asbestos contributed towards his death, that's very sad, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:11 | |
because I know he worked very hard, obviously he worked hard for us, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
for his family, and actually he was putting himself at high risk. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:20 | |
February 2011. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
A devastating earthquake in New Zealand. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
The country's Prime Minister calls it "the darkest day". | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
Christchurch, the country's second city, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
is hit by a powerful earthquake. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
'There's obvious concern for British citizens. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
'Can you give us any news? Is it still too early to say?' | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
The city is popular with British backpackers | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
and home to many ex-pats. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
Yes, it's John, from Fulham. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
Coroner's emailed me to say we may have up to six victims coming back from New Zealand. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:58 | |
Alison is one of Britain's leading disaster specialists, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
with experience from 9/11, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
the Bali bombing and the Boxing Day Tsunami. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
We need to be able to react very quickly in West London, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
because we have Heathrow in our patch. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
There are commonly repatriations from mass fatalities | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
and we have to be ready to respond to anything that we're given. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:24 | |
We need to know what flight they're on, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
the time they're arriving at the mortuary, | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
and be sitting in court and opening the inquest. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
With the tsunami, we would maybe have five or six a day. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
We built out a whole extension, right out here, to the street | 0:11:34 | 0:11:39 | |
and just had to expand the site to accommodate all the victims. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
It is imperative the victims are correctly identified. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
Therefore the part we play in that here is important. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
We have had coffins come back with the wrong people in them | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
and we've put that right, and also if you make one mistake | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
in the identification process it throws out the whole thing. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
There's a team gone out with a view to making sure that all of the identification is correct. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:08 | |
Alison will work closely with the British team in New Zealand. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
Commander Nick Bracken of the Metropolitan Police | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
is already on the scene. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
Hello, Richard. Nick Bracken. Are you at the mortuary? | 0:12:20 | 0:12:25 | |
Cmdr Bracken is leading the British operation. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
He's Alison's eyes and ears on the ground | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
and has worked closely with her on previous disasters. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
Bodies have been burnt in this scenario. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
There are the kind of crush and damage injuries | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
that present the problems in identification, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
and where mistakes can be made. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
The team is working at a military base several miles out of the city. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:53 | |
If there are British dead, they'll be identified here. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:58 | |
I think anyone has real sympathy to anybody who's lost a loved one | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
and they will always work as hard as they can to get loved ones recovered. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
It is very, very difficult and that wait must be absolutely agonising for the families. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
And there is every likelihood, given the number of British people that do live and work here | 0:13:10 | 0:13:17 | |
and of course the high level of British tourists who come to this beautiful city. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
Press reports suggest that up to 10 Britons may be missing. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:26 | |
One of those is 41-year-old Phil Coppeard, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
whose parents Barbara and Barry live in Suffolk. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:34 | |
-I think you put the radio on at 6:30. -Put the radio on at 6:30. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
-And heard... -And heard that there'd been an earthquake in Christchurch. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
And obviously then we were immediately trying to contact Philip | 0:13:41 | 0:13:47 | |
and there was no answer to his phone. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
He was extremely loyal and... | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
-..caring. -Very caring. Fairly strong willed. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
Very strong willed! | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
As they say in this part of the country, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
he was a good little old boy. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
THEY CHUCKLE | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
After a career in the City, Phil and his wife Suzanne, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:21 | |
who was from New Zealand, decided to settle in Christchurch. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:26 | |
They actually married in England four years ago, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:31 | |
but we flew out immediately and had a church blessing in Christchurch. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:36 | |
And they had bought a house in New Zealand anyway, and they decided | 0:14:36 | 0:14:42 | |
about two years ago that they would change their lifestyle completely. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:48 | |
They weren't materialistic. The money... They weren't after all that, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:54 | |
they just wanted a simpler, easier lifestyle. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:59 | |
Phil and his wife had been living in Christchurch for just six months. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:06 | |
He had recently started a degree course. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
On the day of the earthquake, he left home to catch a bus to university, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:14 | |
but was not seen after that. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
His wife Suzanne was interviewed by local radio. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
When did you last see Phil? | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
He left home some time between 12:15 and 12:30. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:29 | |
He was still, you know, working out bus timetables and how long it would take to get to university, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:35 | |
so he wanted to make sure that he was on time. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
The bus that took Phil to university was a number 702. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
A bus of that number was crushed by a building | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
that collapsed in the earthquake. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
My husband is not the usual university student age, he's 41. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:53 | |
The phone for a long time after the quake was ringing and ringing and then going to voicemail. | 0:15:53 | 0:16:02 | |
I'm just struggling to get information, and we just really want Phil to come back. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:07 | |
He'd phoned us about an hour or two before he got on the bus, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
he was going off for his second day at university, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
told us all about what had happened on the first day. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
We didn't know if he was still on the bus under the rubble, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:30 | |
we didn't know if he was alive or not at that time, | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
and didn't know if he was badly injured in a hospital somewhere, so... | 0:16:33 | 0:16:40 | |
With hundreds still missing, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
this city is bracing itself for even further loss. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
On the other side of the world in London, the Coroner's team | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
are still waiting for news of British victims. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
Progress is being made in the case of the young Polish man | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
hit by an underground train. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
In Uxbridge, forensic pathologist Dr Ashley Fegan-Earl | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
has completed his postmortem report. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
The cause of death is unlike the majority of railway fatalities. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:24 | |
It is a bit of a more unusual one. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
As I understand it, it's managed to pinion him between the tracks, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:33 | |
as it were, and the...something called the shoe of the train. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
What it's actually done as a consequence is pinioned his chest, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:42 | |
preventing any of the normal movements of breathing, resulting in this traumatic asphyxia. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:48 | |
We can see that from the petechial haemorrhages that are present in his eyes. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:53 | |
The postmortem has revealed that the man's liver was undamaged, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:59 | |
corroborating accounts that he was not a regular drinker. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
There's certainly no changes in his liver that would suggest that. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
The exact effects of drink on any one individual are obviously going to | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
depend on how used to drinking they are. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
Toxicology results from St George's, University of London, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
reveal that the man had alcohol concentrations | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
five times higher than the legal drink-drive limit. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
They have been passed to Coroner's Officer Shirley Stewart. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:30 | |
The alcohol has been absorbed into the bloodstream so the concentration | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
in the urine is higher than in the blood, which indicates to us | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
that this is someone who's been drinking over a several-hour period. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
I do know that he was self-employed here in the UK | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
working as a carpenter, and that he was a very reliable worker. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
And he'd been at work the day before he died. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
And whilst he was at work he was saying that he felt quite unwell | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
and wasn't sure whether or not he was going to go in the next day. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
Life in Poland prior to coming to the UK, we have very little, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
other than the fact that he was a happily married man, with a two-year old son. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:11 | |
There was no evidence at postmortem that he was suffering any natural disease or illness | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
that has either caused or contributed to his death, so it's really very tragic. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:21 | |
The Coroner has yet to decide | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
if the young man's death was accidental or deliberate. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
But, for mortuary technicians like Cassie, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
the latter is all too familiar. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
We went through a patch here of a lot of Polish...young Polish gentlemen hanging themselves, | 0:19:33 | 0:19:40 | |
I presume...coming over to start a new life, and earn money, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:45 | |
and it obviously didn't work out for a lot of them and we went through a stage of having a huge number. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:51 | |
Probably...why would there be more men? | 0:19:51 | 0:19:56 | |
I guess there's more financial pressure on men - | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
you know, to run a family, to run a home. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
Not that I'm being sexist, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
but I would say there's probably more pressure on a gentleman. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
I just find it very sad. I find it sad for the family. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:16 | |
There are now over half a million Polish people living in the UK | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
and West London is a major hub for the community. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
When deaths occur, they're dealt with by Monika Panasiuk of the Polish Embassy... | 0:20:26 | 0:20:31 | |
Monika. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
..who liaises between the Coroner's Office and bereaved families. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:39 | |
Sometimes people, they have never heard even such a word, coroner, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
because in Polish there is no such a word, coroner. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
They're asking, "Coroner, Coroner? What is it, who is it?" | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
Also I can tell you one thing, that in Poland there is a tradition | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
that the...person who died is buried very quickly. | 0:20:55 | 0:21:01 | |
Even after one, two days after death. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
Hello? | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
Shirley. Shirley's on the line. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
Hello, Monika, it's Shirley from the Coroner's Office. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
Shirley is preparing for the court inquest into the young man's death. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
His wife lives in Poland and has been asked if she wants to attend. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:23 | |
-And she told us that she's not going to be come. -'So she's not going to be attending. OK.' -No. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:29 | |
'There's probably also the matter of money, and the matter of organising the family life, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
'so that's why she's not coming.' | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
However, her friend, or their friend, is going to attend. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
The Coroner often likes to have somebody that can actually | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
tell us who that person was in life, | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
and what their dreams and aspirations were. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
And, you know, just what their life expectations | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
and who they were as a person, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
and I also think it's always very nice to have that on record as well. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
The reasons people are taking their own life, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
it's probably the expectation. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
Or different reality, if they met here. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
Also they feel lonely. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
They have troubles and they have no-one to talk about this. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
Because someone appeared to be a satisfied, reliable person | 0:22:17 | 0:22:22 | |
who seems to have settled in the UK, it may be that at inquest | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
somebody will turn round to say, "Well, actually, that's not the case." | 0:22:26 | 0:22:31 | |
Probably it was suicide. Well, we'll see what the Coroner says. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:36 | |
So we will see. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
Dr Olaf Biedrzycki is at the pathology lab at Queen Mary, University of London. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:50 | |
He's here to continue the investigation into how former plasterer Michael Downey died. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:59 | |
Michael's lung tissue has been prepared for detailed forensic examination. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
Dr Biedrzycki takes each section of the sample | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
to count the number of asbestos fibres. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
They are quite hard to find, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
and to fulfil a diagnosis of asbestosis, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
we need to find at least two asbestos bodies per centimetre squared of the tissue. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:25 | |
The problem we have is that we haven't got enough asbestos bodies | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
to substantiate the diagnosis. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
After weeks of extensive testing, there's insufficient evidence | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
to determine whether Michael's exposure to asbestos caused his death. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
Six months after he died, Michael's case is at its conclusion. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
There is a danger that if we didn't get involved, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
these deaths would be lost under the title of chronic respiratory disease, | 0:23:56 | 0:24:01 | |
chronic lung disease, whatever, but we are able to bring them | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
out of that general category into a category of their own, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
labelled as industrial disease, and therefore we're able to predict | 0:24:09 | 0:24:14 | |
that we're going to hit a peak in 2020 | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
and we need to be preparing for treating those patients over the next 10 years | 0:24:16 | 0:24:21 | |
and giving them the best quality of life that we can. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
For my Granddad, who in baptism was given the pledge of eternal life, | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
that he now may be admitted to the company of the saints. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
This is a copy of a letter that was sent to my Auntie Maureen. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:45 | |
"I'm very sorry to hear about Mick. He was larger than life and very funny. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
"He was fun to drink with, God love him. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
"There are so many people who act like we live in an artificial world. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
"When I think back as a kid, I remember... | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
"I remember the local characters that made the difference. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
"To me they were the colours, the bright colours to a dull, boring canvas. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:17 | |
"Michael was a bright colour." | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
And that's from America. From my dad's first cousin. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
Two Britons are known to have died in the earthquake that struck the city of Christchurch in New Zealand. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:39 | |
In total, 102 people are known to have died, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
although more than 200 are still missing, | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
but hopes of finding more survivors are already fading. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
Nearly two weeks after the earthquake, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
missing Briton Phil Coppeard has still not been identified. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:57 | |
The grim task being undertaken at a military base is painstaking forensic work. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:03 | |
It's an agonising wait for anxious families. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
Until the identification process was followed through | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
right to the end, we couldn't say a word to anybody. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
We couldn't say Phil was dead because we didn't know for certain. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
And that was the most horrible time. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
For the postmortem examinations, | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
a temporary mortuary has been organised in an army hangar. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
Complete bodies and unidentified remains are stored in refrigerated containers. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:38 | |
Because of the nature of the disaster, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
much of the identification work falls to forensic experts. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
Dr Chris Briggs is an Australian forensic anthropologist. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
It's very important to measure the diameters of certain bones | 0:26:50 | 0:26:55 | |
and that will provide information in relation to the age, | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
the sex and the ethnicity of the people who've died here. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
Many of the victims were very badly burnt. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:07 | |
And it's very easy for those remains to become mixed up with adjacent remains | 0:27:07 | 0:27:12 | |
and also with building material, so at times it's very difficult | 0:27:12 | 0:27:17 | |
to distinguish human from non-human from building material. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
Most mass fatality incidents, of the four questions we answer - "Who, when, where, how?" - | 0:27:23 | 0:27:29 | |
"who" is the most important. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
The other part of the identification process is obtaining antemortem information. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:39 | |
Toothbrushes, hairbrushes, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
anything that might contain DNA or fingerprints from the missing person, is obtained from their home. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:48 | |
People will always be critical of the length of time it takes to do | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
the identification work, and I think we have to stress from an early stage | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
that it really has to take time, it can't be rushed, it's really important that we get it right. | 0:27:55 | 0:28:02 | |
Personal items such as keys and watches are taken from the remains. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:07 | |
Medical and dental records are trawled through, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
all with the aim of providing a match with the postmortem evidence. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:15 | |
They took DNA from the house, and then | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
they asked for dental records, but he'd got absolutely perfect teeth. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
He'd never had - although he hadn't been very meticulous about cleaning his teeth - | 0:28:23 | 0:28:29 | |
he had had no fillings as a child, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
no treatment at all, but he had no outstanding identification marks. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:37 | |
He had no tattoos or anything. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
It was extremely frustrating, but there was nothing we could do. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:45 | |
As so many nationalities are involved, the coroner's process for identifying British victims | 0:28:47 | 0:28:53 | |
is now going to have to take place in New Zealand. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
In a corner of the army building, a small room transformed into a temporary Coroner's Court | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
houses the most important part of the process. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
Coroner Sue Johnson presides over the hearings in which postmortem and antemortem information are matched. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:18 | |
Do you swear that the evidence you are about to give | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
-will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? -Yes, I do. -Thank you. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:26 | |
The evidence I have received consists of fingerprint comparison, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:31 | |
property comparison and some circumstantial evidence. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:36 | |
What happens in here, if that evidence is sufficient to establish | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
the identity of that body, then we can then say, | 0:29:40 | 0:29:45 | |
"This body that's only had a number has now got a name." | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
And that's a very...poignant moment. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:53 | |
In this way, the earthquake victim given the number DVI 15720 | 0:29:59 | 0:30:05 | |
was proved to be Phil Coppeard. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
When they asked about identification and we said he'd had one ear pierced | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
and we couldn't remember... you can see it in that photo. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
It was his left ear. THEY CHUCKLE | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
Two weeks after the earthquake, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
Barbara and Barry were given confirmation of Phil's death by his wife Suzanne. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:28 | |
Mm. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
She had promised that she would phone us. I made her promise that she would phone us. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:36 | |
And so...she phoned us | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
and told us that it was confirmed that Phil was dead. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:44 | |
The fallen building that crushed the bus Phil was on | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
had been badly damaged after a smaller earthquake the previous year. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
The traffic passing the building was not restricted that morning. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
At the Coroner's inquest in New Zealand | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
it was revealed that he died of multiple injuries. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:04 | |
I was just glad to know that he was... | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
if you like, in a perverse sort of way, that he was safe. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
You know, that he was... | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
I presume, you would have known that they treated people, I'm sure, with dignity | 0:31:13 | 0:31:19 | |
and that...he was...safe. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
Not safe and alive, but safe. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
Phil's family decided that he should rest in New Zealand, | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
the country he had wanted to make his home. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
He was one of 20 British citizens | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
who died as a result of the Christchurch earthquake. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
None were repatriated to the UK. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
We have to remain involved where we've got British nationals killed overseas. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:57 | |
I don't think we could have predicted any of the incidents that we've dealt with | 0:31:57 | 0:32:02 | |
but they always have to be adapted to the particular circumstances | 0:32:02 | 0:32:07 | |
of the disaster you're dealing with, and no two of them are ever the same. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:12 | |
It's a safeguard. It's a safeguard that hopefully exists | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
whether you die here or overseas. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
And then it's an entitlement for the family to know exactly what happened, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:23 | |
and I hope that that is reassuring to them, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
that we're able to do that for them. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
The date of the court hearing into the death of the young Polish man has now been set. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:43 | |
PC Steve Tucker from the British Transport Police has been called as a witness. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:49 | |
Five months after he handed the case to the Coroner's Office, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
he's revisiting the scene of the incident. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
This is the...end of the platform. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:04 | |
Leads to the tracks beyond. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:05 | |
This is where it happened. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
Two types of signs here, signs that tell you it's dangerous and signs that tell you it's illegal. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
We have no idea why he would go through these gates and down there. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:18 | |
'This is Hangar Lane. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
'Please mind the gap between the train and the platform.' | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
And the loss is...is terrible. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
His wife's a widow, his child's not got a father, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
and...all in the blink of an eye. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
It's September 2011, nine months after the young man's death. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:42 | |
Today, the court inquest will finally establish | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
whether it was a deliberate act or a terrible accident. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
I think there's always that edge before you go into court. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
I've got the Polish Embassy to liaise with the family, because obviously I don't speak Polish. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:59 | |
No. You barely speak English! | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
Here you're doing all the hard work. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
You're taking the witness through their evidence, you need to have read it. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
The young man's family will not be attending from Poland. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
But the two key witnesses, who saw how he died, are here. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
You've got to assess how long a witness is going to take, it's got to look slick. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
You finish one witness, you're on to the next. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
This is the court room itself. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
Now, the Coroner comes through the door at the side there. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
Do they need a break, is somebody looking tired? | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
And I need to establish if you're going to swear on the Bible or if you'd prefer to affirm? | 0:34:35 | 0:34:40 | |
I get a fair amount of adrenaline going, maybe that helps you do the job properly. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:45 | |
Court rise. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
The inquest this afternoon concerns the death of Mr Marcin... | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
Under English law, cameras are banned from filming in open court. | 0:34:54 | 0:35:00 | |
What follows is taken from the court's own transcripts. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:04 | |
And the purpose of the hearing is to determine and record how this young man died. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
Though the images are representative, | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
the words are real. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
Now, I'm going to hear from two eyewitnesses, Mr Cristou and Mr Humphries, who I assume are here. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:20 | |
I swear by Almighty God that the evidence I shall give... | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
-I, David Humphries, do solemnly... -And nothing but the truth. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
As Pete and I were standing talking, waiting for the train to arrive, | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
we heard some sort of impact noise behind us. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
It was certainly loud enough to catch our attention from a few yards away. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:40 | |
Pete and I went over to him and asked him if he was OK. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
He wasn't aggressive towards us in any way | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
but he wasn't interested very much in our help. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
We tried to give him his phone and bag back but he didn't take any notice of that. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
He didn't have any interest in getting those back from us. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
-He didn't seem interested in getting his possessions back? -No. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
We saw him walking down towards the very end of the platform, | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
through the barrier. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
We were calling to him to come back, and don't be stupid. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
Pete and I went through the gate and followed him down. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
-So you followed him as well? -Yeah, yeah. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
He kind of turned around to us, | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
the force of the train kind of span him round. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
Some part of the train seemed to catch his clothing, dragged him, | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
I don't know, for about five yards or so, released him, then another part grabbed him again. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:36 | |
It was pretty horrible. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
Obviously at that moment the panic set in, | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
and I felt a bit sick as well | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
and I seem to remember one person distastefully taking pictures. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
I don't know if he was drunk or he was just having a bit of a wander, I've no idea why. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:55 | |
Perhaps if he was drunk, he may have thought | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
that we weren't trying to help him, that conversely, we were trying to cause him harm. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:04 | |
That's kind of what I thought might have happened. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
Essentially that concludes all the evidence. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
Obviously I do need to consider at least the possibility of suicide, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
but remind myself that I have to be satisfied to a very high standard of proof indeed. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:23 | |
I mean, there was simply insufficient evidence to support any finding of suicide. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:28 | |
This is in all probability a sad accident. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
Our formal verdict will be one of accidental death. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
Just... Yeah, just a guy being in the wrong place at the wrong time. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:40 | |
I think he was unwell, very intoxicated | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
and just disorientated and confused. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
Thanks, Steve. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:46 | |
Sad that he wasn't accustomed to it, and what a shock for the family. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:53 | |
You'd like to think it would put their minds at rest in terms of | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
any suggestion that it may not have been an accident. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
Some people say, so what is the point of a Coroner's inquest? | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
It says that in the fast-moving world we live in | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
that we can still find the time, even now, to sit down in a room, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:12 | |
every single time someone dies in circumstances other than natural causes, to talk about it. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:17 | |
And it puts an importance on it, for the family, because it says, | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
this death was important, because this person's life was important. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
Another day of... | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
of sadness. SHE LAUGHS | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
Alison, if you hadn't have been a Coroner, what would you be doing? | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
I would have wanted to be an actress and a dancer. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
That was my basic ambition when I was a youngster. It hasn't changed... | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
..I've just never done it. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
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