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Donaghadee is a quiet seaside town, | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
a place where many older people retire to enjoy the sea air and the views. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:36 | |
An idyllic spot, perhaps, but for 77 year-old Tilly Campbell, it became the stuff of nightmares. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:46 | |
GLASS SMASHES | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
FOOTSTEPS APPROACH | 0:01:18 | 0:01:19 | |
In the early hours of the 9th October, 2006, as Tilly Campbell lay sleeping, | 0:01:23 | 0:01:28 | |
an intruder shattered the early morning silence. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
'Fire and rescue.' | 0:02:05 | 0:02:06 | |
'Hello. I'm calling from Donaghadee. 46 Barnagh Park. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
'I'm just walking over to the centre. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
'The house that I've just walked past, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
'it looks like there's smoke coming out some of the windows. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
-'46? -Barnagh Park.' -Barnagh? -Yeah, in Donaghadee.' | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
Shortly after ten to 6, on Monday 9th of October, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
I was alerted to a fire by my regional control centre, via pager, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
to turn out to take charge of an incident of a house fire. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
SIREN BLARES | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
46 Barnagh Park is a semi-detached bungalow in a quiet area of the town. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:44 | |
It was owned by widow, Tilly Campbell, and on first arriving at the scene, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:49 | |
firemen were hopeful that the fire was not extensive. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
However, on closer inspection, it appeared that the house had been broken into | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
and the officers were immediately concerned for possible occupants. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
With in a few minutes after that time, one of the fire-fighters came out to say they had found someone, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:08 | |
and to get resuscitation equipment ready for the casualty being brought out. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
Basically once the crew had sat the lady down, it was apparent very quickly | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
that due to her horrific injuries that she had sustained, that life was extinct. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:26 | |
As the victim's injuries were not fire related, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
Assistant Group Commander Stanley Bentley entered the building himself | 0:03:39 | 0:03:44 | |
to try to determine the cause of the fire, suspecting foul play. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
I looked and I found two seats of fire. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
There was one just outside a bedroom, at a chair | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
which led to a hot press that was completely destroyed by fire. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
And there was a second attempt at a fire at a mattress in an adjoining bedroom. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:09 | |
At this stage I believed and I knew was dealing with more than a fire incident and a fire fatality. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:16 | |
This was due to the injuries that Tilly Campbell had received | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
and the fact that the rear door had been forced, | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
the fact that there were two seats of fire, and also that we'd found a knife in one of the bedrooms. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:27 | |
It was then that I had to make the decision to preserve the scene as much as possible. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
In the meantime, fire crews continued their duties ensuring the flames had | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
-not spread to adjoining properties. -Hello, anyone home? | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
Tilly's immediate neighbour was on holiday but her son was at home. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
Firemen had difficulty rousing him | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
and were surprised he had not responded to the arrival of emergency services hours earlier. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:52 | |
They entered to check that the fire next door had no ill effects on persons or property. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:57 | |
I went up, checked the roof space | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
which I found a considerable amount of smoke but no fire passage had made its way through, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:09 | |
so we were content at the fact that no fire had travelled through into that home. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
Robert Harvey explained he had just woken up after a heavy drinking session. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
But officers noticed the washing machine was on. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
Just didn't add up, the fact that if he was sleeping his washing machine was on, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
and basically he was not emotional to the fact that there had been a fire next door. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
The firemen informed police on the scene about their suspicions | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
and two officers went back to speak with Robert Harvey. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
When we went to knock on the door, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:47 | |
there was no answer. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
The house appeared to be in darkness and it was quiet. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
I thought this was a bit strange as the fire service had just spoken | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
to the occupant a few minutes previously. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
I knocked on the door a number of times and there was no answer, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
so I consulted with my colleague and we decided that due to the evidence that we already had, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:10 | |
and our suspicions, that we would have to force entry to speak to the occupant. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:15 | |
Where's your washing machine? | 0:06:22 | 0:06:23 | |
I opened up the door of the washing machine and observed it to be full of clothing. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
I started to remove the clothing as I wasn't sure | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
whether the washing machine might let more water in at some stage, had I left it. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
I set the clothing on the floor | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
and happened to notice a pair of trainers in the washing machine as well. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:52 | |
The first thing that came to mind was you'll ruin your drum | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
by putting trainers in your washing machine, and I decided to say this to Robert Harvey, | 0:06:55 | 0:07:00 | |
just to see if I could build up some rapport with him. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
He didn't make any reply, or his facial expression didn't change at all. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
Robert Harvey then left the kitchen and made his way towards one of the bedrooms. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
I followed him, I just wanted to keep him in sight at all times. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
He sat down on his bed and picked up a paintbrush | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
and began to paint on an easel which he had just beside the bed. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
-So, you're an artist? -Yeah. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
At his feet I noticed there was, what appeared to be scissors, a hatchet and a jemmy, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:40 | |
lying in a small pile. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
I asked him what was the purpose of the tools that were lying on the floor. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
He says he had them for his own protection. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
When I entered 48 Barnagh Park, Robert Harvey remained calm throughout. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:55 | |
He was neither obstructive or particularly helpful. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
But he didn't make any expression as to why the police were forcing their way into his house. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
When I mentioned to him that Tilly Campbell was dead, he did show surprise which appeared genuine. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:12 | |
He made a few comments but then he immediately returned to his calm state. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
As a result of Robert Harvey's actions in which he failed | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
to respond to the fire service... | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
..he failed to respond to the police officers knocking the door... | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
..on police entering the property and finding a number of weapons... | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
..on finding the washing machine where clothes had recently been washed... | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
..and the fact that Tilly Campbell had been brutally murdered in her home, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
officers at the scene, under the direction of the local CID, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
arrested Robert Harvey on suspicion of murder. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
Tilly Campbell was a 77-year-old widow and grandmother who lived in | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
Donaghadee for nearly 60 years. She'd only moved to Barnagh Park | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
following the death of her husband in November 2004. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
Tilly was a strong willed and popular woman, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
but had becoming increasingly more housebound due to ill health. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
She was unable to walk, or carry items for long distances, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
but was saving for a mobility scooter to maintain her independence. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:40 | |
I first heard about my mother's death, it must have been... | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
..around 6.30, seven o'clock or something on the Tuesday morning. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
I can't really remember. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
And it was my son come running into my bedroom to say | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
that my brother had phoned to let him know that my mother was dead | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
and there had been a fire in the house. | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
I just got up and threw things on me, got into the car and just drove | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
on autopilot really. I can't remember a lot more driving down to Donaghadee, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
to see what had happened. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
From the information we had been given, from what I can remember, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
I don't think it was a lot, just that there was a fire and we didn't know she was murdered at the time. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:23 | |
And everything to me, really, it was a blank. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
When I got down there, you know, my uncle, he was already there with the police. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:32 | |
They more or less told me what had happened. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
And I, you know, you're devastated. You're numb. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
I didn't know what to do. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
It was just a shock. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
The morning that I found out that Tilly had been murdered, | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
I was getting ready for work, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:54 | |
and it was early, it was about seven-ish. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
And I was upstairs, my partner was downstairs. The knock came to the door. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
And at that time in the morning you do wonder, but it was Don. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
And I had thought she had fallen, that Tilly had fallen again, because she fell before. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
But it was Don coming in to tell me that his mother was dead and there had been a fire. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:16 | |
And I went into hysterics. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
When Robert Harvey was arrested and taken to Serious Crime at Antrim, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
he undergoes a process of forensic recovery. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
We take swabs of his hand, we take head hair combings, etcetera. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
We also seize the clothing that he was wearing. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
At the time of his arrest he was wearing a dark-coloured hooded top, boxer shorts | 0:11:49 | 0:11:55 | |
and a pair of slippers. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:56 | |
They would have been removed from him and he would have been supplied with a police issue boiler suit. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
When I found out that he was arrested, I was, you know, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
I was so angry, because he lived next door to my mum and I couldn't | 0:12:15 | 0:12:21 | |
believe that anybody could do anything like that. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
Especially to my mum. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:26 | |
I'd only seen him now and again. But you never really seen his face | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
cos he always had hoods and kept his head down. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
I didn't really know what he looked like. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
Despite the fact that Robert Harvey was well-known to local police, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
there was a feeling of incredulity throughout the community that | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
he could have murdered his defenceless neighbour. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
A post-mortem was carried out on Tilly Campbell's body. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
As a result of that post-mortem, the pathologist stated that he believed | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
the cause of death was as a result of multiple injuries. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
However, most notably, extensive head injuries resulted in Tilly's death. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
Tilly Campbell had extensive defence wounds to her upper and lower arms that would be consistent | 0:13:14 | 0:13:20 | |
with Tilly having put up quite a struggle with her assailant, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
and it is clear to us that Tilly did fight back. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
Police investigating the death of a pensioner in County Down | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
have launched a murder enquiry. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
77-year-old Tilly Campbell was found dead by fire officers | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
as they attended her house at Barnagh Park, in Donaghadee, early this morning. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
A 36-year-old man was arrested. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
Police now had 96 hours to hold and question Robert Harvey. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
Forensic teams were immediately dispatched | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
to try and gather evidence linking the suspect to the crime. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
In the main double bedroom where Mrs Campbell would have slept, there was | 0:14:05 | 0:14:10 | |
an extensive distribution of blood staining on the walls. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
The blood was projected and it had been sprayed up. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
It gave an impression of an origin point which would have been about the head of the bed. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:28 | |
Most of the blood was sprayed onto the wall, what one would expect from | 0:14:31 | 0:14:37 | |
blows being delivered to someone's head. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
There was also a smeared mark on the wall, just beside the light switch at the door. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:47 | |
And that would have appeared to have come from someone's hand. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
Perhaps they were searching for the light switch, and they've smeared the blood down the wall. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:58 | |
The single spare room was beside the main master bedroom. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
There was evidence of blood staining on the bed. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
There was also extremely heavy blood staining | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
on the floor just beside the head of the bed. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
There was some splashing of blood | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
on the adjacent furniture, on the wardrobe. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
My impression is that she'd been deposited on the bed | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
and she had slipped off the bed on to the floor beside it | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
and as she impacted the floor, | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
the blood would have been sprayed at that time. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
Blood spatter evidence would prove crucial, | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
but even more damning was the comprehensive glass fragment evidence, | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
which tied the suspect irrefutably to the scene of the crime. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:46 | |
The door from the porch to the outside back yard, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
the glass had been broken and that was most probably | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
the point of access to the house itself. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
A pair of trainers had been recovered from the scene. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
They were packaged and submitted to us for examination, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
including an examination for the presence of any glass particles | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
that may have been present. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:10 | |
On looking through the microscope, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
we're able to visualise the presence of glass | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
and each fragment is removed on the tip of a scalpel. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
At the conclusion of our examination, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
we were able to demonstrate that one of the trainers | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
found at the rear of the suspect's property | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
had left a footwear mark just at the entrance point | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
to the main dwelling at the broken double-glazed unit. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:39 | |
We were able to demonstrate that one of those trainers also bore glass, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
not only from that broken glass unit, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
but from both broken panes at the back door. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
To find glass from all three broken windows, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
not only on the trainers in question, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
but also on the clothing within the washing machine, | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
in my opinion, this would indicate that the wearer of these items of clothing and footwear | 0:16:58 | 0:17:04 | |
would have been the perpetrator of the incident in question. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
This forensic information was relayed to the investigating officer, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
who confronted Robert Harvey in the interview room. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
There was glass found in those training shoes, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
that is a match for the double-glazing that was broken. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
So that puts those training shoes in that lean-to | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
at the time the glass was smashed. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
No. It's been matched. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
It's been forensically matched. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
The glass from the window and the glass from the training shoe. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
Robert, tell us what happened. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
Sorry? | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
Tell me what happened, Robert. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
Tell me why you killed her. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
You killed Tilly Campbell in cold blood. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
Further forensic discoveries | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
tightened the net even more around the suspect. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
The weapons recovered at the time of Harvey's arrest | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
from the bedroom - scissors, a hammer and a hatchet. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
We were able to locate Robert Harvey's DNA | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
and we were also able to locate a mixed profile, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
believed to be that of both Robert Harvey and Matilda Campbell. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
The scissors would be conducive with some of the injuries found | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
on Tilly's body during the postmortem examination. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
The boxer shorts removed from Harvey were submitted for examination. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
They were found to have blood that matched that of Tilly Campbell | 0:18:47 | 0:18:52 | |
on the waistband and also to the rear of the boxer shorts | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
both inside and outside of the boxer shorts. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
During the interview process, Robert Harvey attempted to explain | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
his movements during the course of the evening. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
He said he laid down for the evening and did not awaken | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
until the fire service rapped at his window, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
some time about 5:55am. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
We found during the 96-hour period this to be incorrect, | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
that Robert Harvey at 3:25am had actually topped up his mobile phone. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:29 | |
This was put to him during interview and he alleged that was an accident | 0:19:29 | 0:19:34 | |
and maybe he had rolled over his phone during the course of the night. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
These phone records are telling us that your phone was topped up at 3:26am. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
And you admit you had the phone and there was nobody with you. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
Your phone dialled that number, OK? | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
You're telling me that you might have rolled over. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
Your phone's dialled 4,4,4,4. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
And some part of your body has been able to get the exact code | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
of a top up card for you to top it up. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
No. Your phone was topped up. Why are you lying to us? | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
Despite the mounting forensic evidence against him, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
Harvey continued to deny any involvement in the murder of Tilly Campbell. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
However, when confronted with the last piece of evidence, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
a bloody sock, his demeanour visibly changed. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
During the immediate follow up and the search of the locality, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
police officers found a sock in a bin | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
that belonged to number 39 Barnagh Park. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
This bin was a recycling bin | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
and the people that owned the property would categorically state | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
that nothing would be found in that bin other than recycling materials. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
This sock bore the blood of Tilly Campbell. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
The bin was seized as an item and taken away for further examination. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:04 | |
Do you have a pair of socks like that? | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
You see it's covered in blood? | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
Is that your sock? | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
You don't know? | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
Whose blood's that? | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
Is it Tilly's blood? | 0:21:32 | 0:21:33 | |
During the interview process, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
Robert Harvey had remained calm. He had responded to questions, | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
up till the eighth interview, out of 16. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
He did show concern when we put to him that we had recovered | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
a bloodied sock in the bin belonging to number 39. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
From the ninth interview onwards, | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
Robert Harvey either chose not to speak | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
or was selective in his responses. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
We have got your trainer and we have got a footmark of that trainer | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
in the lean-to. We've got glass | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
from the double-glazed window pane. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
We've got a knife that matches knives from your kitchen. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
Do you see where we're going here? | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
-I know where you're going, aye. -We believe that you killed Tilly | 0:22:22 | 0:22:27 | |
in cold blood. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:28 | |
I didn't kill Tilly. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
'When this evidence that we had' | 0:22:32 | 0:22:33 | |
in our possession at that time was put to Robert Harvey | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
in the final interviews, although he did not respond, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
he physically slumped to the weight of the evidence put before him. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
On 13th October 2006, | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
at five past midnight, I charged Robert Harvey | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
with the murder of Tilly Campbell. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
Robert Harvey was remanded in custody | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
by Downpatrick Magistrates' Court on 13th October 2006. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
A protracted trial took place, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
in which Harvey replaced his legal team, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
before finally pleading guilty. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
He was convicted of the murder of Matilda Campbell | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
on 22nd September 2009. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
It was when the court was going on and at the end of it, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
when Justice Hart was reading out details. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
It was atrocious. I didn't even know half of that beforehand, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:23 | |
until the end. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
'It was horrible. It was your worst nightmare, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
'hearing what he had actually done to Mum.' | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
NEWSREADER: A man has been sentenced | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
to at least 23 years in jail for killing his elderly neighbour | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
in Donaghadee in County Down. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
Robert George Harvey admitted murdering Tilly Campbell, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
who was 77, | 0:23:47 | 0:23:48 | |
and lived in Barnagh Park. The court was told that, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
three years ago, Harvey was drunk when he broke into the woman's house | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
and battered her with an axe. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
The judge said it was "an exceptionally violent | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
"and prolonged assault" and that Harvey | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
had shown his victim "absolutely no mercy". | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
I suppose it was the best outcome you could have got, you know, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
because the most was 25 years and he got 23. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:12 | |
But it's, for us, it's not long enough, you know. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:18 | |
There's times I've thought that, if the death penalty was there, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
but then again, for somebody like that, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
that would have been too quick. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:25 | |
During his trial, it emerged that Robert Harvey | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
had 32 convictions for burglary. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
He also had convictions for criminal damage and threats to kill. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
Police footage taken at his home reveals some | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
of the paraphernalia and spoils of his criminal activity. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
Robert Harvey never gave a convincing account of the events | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
of 9th October, the night Tilly Campbell died. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
However, police investigations did establish his movements. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:10 | |
It emerged that, on the night of the murder, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
Harvey had been drinking heavily with friends and had stated | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
he would "kill for money". | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
He had continued drinking after leaving their company | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
and ploughed the last of his money into a poker machine. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
Broke and frustrated, he returned to Barnagh Park in the early hours. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:32 | |
He broke into the property of his vulnerable and elderly neighbour, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
believing her to have cash in the house, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
saved up for a new mobility scooter. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
When Tilly Campbell interrupted the burglary, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
Robert Harvey attacked her in a frenzy. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
He dragged her into the spare room, | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
where she was later found, huddled on the floor. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
After the murder, Harvey set fire to the house, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
in an attempt to cover his crime. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
This was a brutal and vicious attack upon a defenceless 77-year-old lady, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:25 | |
in her own home - the place where she should feel safe | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
and where she'd feel comfortable. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
She was attacked by a neighbour, someone known to her. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
This lady should have been able to | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
live out her days in her home, peacefully. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
After the death of her husband, Tilly Campbell had sought | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
the comfort and security of Barnagh Park and its community. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
She had no idea that her life would be taken | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
by someone so close to home. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
Tilly was a trusting, popular member of the community, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
who believed in giving, not taking. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
She was like a mother to me. She took me under her wing. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
She would have done extra things for me. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
She loved her home, her garden. That is my memories of Tilly. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
Tilly loved to shop. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
We went to car boot sales. We went round things like that. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
She loved anything to do with bargains or pruck, she loved it. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:30 | |
And when she was going shopping, | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
I would come out, everyday clothes, coat over the top, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
but Tilly would come out, the shoes would have matched the scarf, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
the handbag - everything matched. She always was glamorous. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
Everybody knew Tilly. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
Her grandkids have lost their grandmother and their kids | 0:27:49 | 0:27:55 | |
have lost their great-grandmother. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
They'll never remember, because they were too young... | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
to remember my mum... | 0:28:01 | 0:28:02 | |
..so they have missed out on her love. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
I'd like Tilly to be remembered the way that she was - | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
happy, she was very, very glamorous, she was full of life | 0:28:17 | 0:28:22 | |
and she just loved, she loved company and she loved | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
going out and meeting people. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:26 | |
and she loved a bit of craic. She really was full of life. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
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