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Each year in Britain, we lock up 2,000 school-age children. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
Vinney Green locks up persistent and disturbed troublemakers... | 0:00:07 | 0:00:12 | |
the kids no-one else can tame. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
'Some of them are very difficult, very challenging.' | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
Fuck you, man! | 0:00:19 | 0:00:20 | |
Some of them are very dangerous. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
Whether they are a danger to each other... | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
They are making threats to kill everybody, threatening to stab all the bitches that work at the unit. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:37 | |
..or a danger to themselves, and sent here for their own protection. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
I happened to go into her bedroom this time, and found out | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
that she'd actually put a ligature round her neck. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
Are you scared? | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
'They do need a rub of their head, just that motherly sort of touch... | 0:00:49 | 0:00:55 | |
'Maybe that might surprise some people, but they are only children.' | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
Three boys are facing the prospect of beginning their adult life behind bars, if they can't change. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:05 | |
17-year-old Ryan started to get into trouble when he was just nine. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:10 | |
I don't lose control, I just choose to get angrier. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
He's got an uphill struggle to overcome his anger. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
15-year-old Ryan is the only one in trouble in his family. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
There's always one bad apple. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
He's got to learn to say no to the lure of his friends. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
Ashley has been in and out of secure units. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
By Christmas, I'll be back inside. It's just my life. Trouble. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
He needs to find the confidence to break the cycle. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
I ain't got none of that confidence shit. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
Vinney Green is called a children's home, but for the kids sent here, it feels like a prison. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:46 | |
In Britain, the law says that children can be held responsible for their crimes. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:51 | |
But with the vast majority getting into trouble again, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
will these three boys be able to leave here, and never come back? | 0:01:54 | 0:01:59 | |
MALE YOUTH: I'm not going in there! | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
I want to go to my room! Now! | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
It's very tricky when we've got somebody here | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
or we know somebody's come in that's potentially dangerous. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
There's cases of young people that's committed rape, arson, robbery, usually with threats of violence. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:28 | |
The extreme is obviously murder. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
We get a lot of paperwork with somebody that comes, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
and we need to be aware of what that says, if there's any history. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
At the same time, we need to take every person | 0:02:38 | 0:02:39 | |
for who they are when they arrive, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
and we need to judge them on what they're like when they're here. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
Turnover at Vinney Green is high. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
Some young people are here for just a few days, waiting to find out what's next. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
Others are here for months. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
A few stay for years. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
Ashley, who's recently arrived at Vinney Green, has been here once before. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:04 | |
It's his fifth stay at a secure children's home by the age of 16. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
Why are you searching MY room? | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
We're searching everybody's. We're doing the astroturf, everything. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
Yeah, but you searched us earlier! | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
-We've been told to do it again. -You've already searched my room. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
The children have their own bedrooms, but they can be searched at any time. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:25 | |
-Ashley... -Search my room all you want, you ain't searching me. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
Because he's been in so many units, Ash knows the system inside out, and he's not afraid to rebel. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:36 | |
Everyone's got to be searched... | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
-You did it to me last week! -Everyone's got to be searched. -And I didn't have fuck-all. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:43 | |
And he often deliberately chooses to face down staff. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
'Fuck the system.' | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
Do anything to get away from the system, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
do anything to fight the system. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
I ain't doing what these lot tell me to do. I'll do what I want to do. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
Wherever you go, you're being watched. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
When you come out on the astro, it turns out to be more of a prison, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
you're being watched 24/7. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
You've got all the gates, you've got the bars. You can't go nowhere. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:16 | |
Whereas in there it just feels like you're in a normal school, like. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
This is day 21 for Ash. But being caged is a way of life for him. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:26 | |
Sometimes I wish I was a bird. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
I'd just fly away, never come back. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
Get me? Never come back. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
Like most of the kids at Vinney Green, Ash started his downward spiral at an early age. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:43 | |
I started getting into drugs, started smoking weed, drinking, going out on | 0:04:43 | 0:04:48 | |
Friday nights, getting violent, just beating people up, getting arrested. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:53 | |
And then, one day I was out of control, and I took a car. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
I took a car and just, like... | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
..drove off. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
I was only 12, 13. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
It was, like, the wrong thing to do. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:09 | |
Wish I never did it. But... | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
It's just something that happened, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
I can't change it. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
But I do regret it. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:19 | |
Come on, Ashley. Go into your room. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
Ashley's behaviour here presents a challenge to the staff. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
He'll be carefully assessed on a daily basis, like every child on the unit. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:36 | |
We had a new admission last night, a 13-year-old, and he's got some serious issues, this kiddie here... | 0:05:38 | 0:05:44 | |
The senior managers and teachers meet to examine the level of risks | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
posed to other children, staff, or even to children harming themselves. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:52 | |
Volatile... | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
Just flips out and does all sorts. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
As I said, smears faeces, urine... | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
-Bit disturbed, then? -Very disturbed, by the looks of it. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
-Yeah. -So we'll need to be on the ball with this one. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
There's a daily meeting, so that if there are issues, especially with someone | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
who's been highlighted as dangerous, we're on top of that, and we can catch something before it happens. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:17 | |
You can't always - but that's the hope, that you can. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
A lot of the time, we come in here and on paper they look like Frankenstein's monsters. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:26 | |
-Yeah. -But...we'll see. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
No-one is born evil. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
Children are children. They may come FROM a disadvantaged background, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:38 | |
but they have the qualities to overcome those disadvantages. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:43 | |
In Vinney Green, there are separate living areas for the boys and the girls. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:50 | |
15-year-old Ryan has also been brought here for the second time. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:58 | |
But he's been assessed as vulnerable, so he's been | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
separated from the other boys, and lives alongside the girls. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
Yeah, I may be fat, but I'm losing it when I get out. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
I might lose it when I get out. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
Ryan was bullied the last time he was at the unit, so the staff are concerned about his safety. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:17 | |
Ryan is being bullied, big style - | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
-apparently it stems from last time he was here... -Is that still going on? | 0:07:20 | 0:07:25 | |
It's still going on. They won't let it drop. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
So, he's being picked up, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
brought over five minutes late and taken back five minutes early, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
cos he really, really, really doesn't want to bump into... | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
I'll try and get to the bottom of it this afternoon. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
Ryan is being protected from the tougher boys, who have a reputation for fighting. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:18 | |
The other Ryan is 17, and has been here already for 180 days. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:25 | |
He lives on the block for boys. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
He's been involved in a number of fights since arriving at Vinney Green. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:35 | |
He's been in trouble with the police since he was nine. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
Started off just like, little things, like... | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
..assaults, fighting, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
criminal damage, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
theft, stuff like that. But then, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
obviously as you get older I was drinking, drugs, stuff like that. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:02 | |
And then... | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
serious fights and | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
more serious stuff. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
The first time I got caught for anything, I was nine or ten, something like that. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
I think it was criminal damage. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
I just lost my temper and... smashed someone up. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
'Sometimes young people are on such a downward spiral | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
'of offending, literally on a daily basis, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
'I believe that sometimes young people do need to be secured. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
'All you can do is give society a rest.' | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
No matter how closely the kids are monitored, fights can break out at any time. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:39 | |
'We've often got 24 people. They've obviously not chosen to be here, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:44 | |
'they don't necessarily like each other. They do wind each other up, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
'they're in each other's faces. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
'So quite often, there's a lot of verbal threats, verbal challenges. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
'The violence between young people tends to be reactive. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
'Someone's said something to someone else, someone throws a punch.' | 0:09:58 | 0:10:03 | |
Ryan starts another fight. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
He's restrained, and taken to his room. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
'If I'm arguing with someone and getting angry, I might lash out or... | 0:10:17 | 0:10:22 | |
'if someone lashes out at me, I'll get angry and lash out back. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:27 | |
'I just get angry quite quickly.' | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
I don't even know what it is. I choose to get angry - | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
I don't lose control, I just...choose to get angrier. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
Every single government's trying to look at how you break that cycle | 0:10:37 | 0:10:42 | |
of criminal offending, which young people get into and then carry on into adulthood. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:48 | |
With some young people, it's about directing them and giving them the best opportunity. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:56 | |
What establishments like Vinney Green are meant to do is put a lot of expensive resources into them | 0:10:56 | 0:11:02 | |
at a younger age, because if we can stop someone offending in later life, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:07 | |
there is economic and social savings for the country. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:12 | |
But it's about accepting | 0:11:12 | 0:11:13 | |
that you might have to put that money and time in now, | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
and won't reap the benefit for 20 years' time. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
Get yourself out of bed, Ryan. Let's go. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
Take your tablet for me, please. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
Grab the mop bucket, let's go. Come on, then. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
This secure unit takes the piss. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
If you don't like it, Ryan, you know what the answer is, mate. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
To try and turn the kids around, the unit runs a strict daily regime. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
From the moment they are woken up at seven, they're never on their own. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
What's wrong with you this morning? | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
-This is what I'm like in the mornings, Andy. -What, grumpy? -Yeah. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:53 | |
Cos I never ever get up this early. Never. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
The only time the kids are locked in their bedrooms is for ten hours at night. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:02 | |
The young people have very little free time when they're allowed to do things that they would choose to do. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:08 | |
We do all their thinking for them. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
This is when you get fed, this when you go to sleep... | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
We offer them plenty of activities, whether it be education or sport. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:18 | |
Because our staffing levels are much greater than a prison, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
there's a member of staff all the time listening to them, trying to control them. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
We're more in the young people's space, in their face, so we're more challenging. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:30 | |
Some young people like that a lot. Others don't. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
For Ash, the only consistent structure in his life has been behind bars. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:40 | |
But now, aged nearly 17, Ash aspires to a more adult regime. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:46 | |
Butlins, innit? Butlins. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
OTHER YOUTH LAUGHS It is, though, innit? It's Butlins. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
-Yeah? -Better than Butlins, just behind bars. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
It should be Butlins Behind Bars. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
Joke. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
There's some young people that come to Vinney Green that's got got no intentions of changing. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
They see this just as part of their life. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
They've got caught, so you serve the time. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
'It's for like, little kids, and it's not kind of me. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
'I need to be moved on to somewhere bigger. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
'Prefer to go to Ashfield, or somewhere like that. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
'A youth offenders' institute.' | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
Some young people would rather go to a prison, because they see a prison having more status. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:31 | |
It makes them perhaps, in their eyes, a bit harder. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
Ryan also wants to prove that he's tough. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
He aspires to the trappings of what the children associate with a gangster lifestyle. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:49 | |
The latest must-have in Vinney Green are rosary beads. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
My mate's sending me some beads. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
They should be coming any day now. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
-What sort of beads? -Rosemary beads. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
Everyone wears them in prison, like. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
She's not Catholic, and she's wearing them. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
It's a prison thing, innit? | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
What does it mean? | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
Basically, it means all things. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:20 | |
It can also mean you've been to prison. That's one reason. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:26 | |
Or you could be Catholic, and that's another reason. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
For Ryan, rosary beads represents that you are in prison or have been in prison, and then your status. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:35 | |
And perhaps for Ryan in particular, his status, how he feels about himself, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
this is meant to be making him something important or big in his eyes. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
I've been going to special needs schools since I was about six. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:54 | |
Didn't like it, kept running away from home, mixing with the wrong people. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:59 | |
Smoking weed... and basically I got into trouble. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:04 | |
My family's never been in trouble, but I'm basically the bad one out of my family, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:12 | |
There's always one who's the bad apple. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
Robin, Ryan's dad, is separated from his mum, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
and has four children older than Ryan. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
Ryan has lived with him since he was four. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
Ryan, my favourite little boy, on his beanbag. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
When he was born at the hospital, he was an emergency Caesarean. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
He was a distressed baby, just didn't seem to do anything. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:40 | |
Two there. He couldn't use his hands or nothing. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
"Uh, uh", that's all he would say. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
And he'd sleep a lot. He...wouldn't involve in anything. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:51 | |
He couldn't talk until he was five and a half, six. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
I took him to speech therapy, and also play therapy, and also | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
the paediatrician and everything, to get him on track. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
It really makes me upset and it really does get to me, because | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
I feel that I've not done the job properly. You know? | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
I feel that... what have I done wrong? | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
Why is it that it's turned out like this? | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
My kids are just the world to me, you know. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
Always have been. And this one is real hard work, Ryan. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
But I'm still there...for him. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
-WOMAN: -Obviously when Ryan arrived, it was very easily identified there were vulnerability concerns. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:33 | |
The paperwork that came with Ryan also suggested that, but you could tell, you know, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:43 | |
with conducting the assessments that the unit undertakes, that | 0:16:43 | 0:16:50 | |
his level of understanding would cause problems within the secure unit. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:55 | |
For his own protection, Ryan is moved around the unit | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
five minutes after the other boys are taken to their classes. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
Ryan, on the boys' block, knows that when people are being moved around | 0:17:05 | 0:17:10 | |
is the best time to settle scores. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
He went down and held his nose, | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
I think he broke his nose. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
I got taken back to my room and put in my room for most of the day. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:28 | |
Reactive violence on the unit is common. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
What is of more concern to staff is that this incident was premeditated. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:36 | |
Basically, we was arguing behind our doors at night. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
And he was shouting stuff to me and just...being a prick, basically, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:44 | |
saying "I'm going to batter you in the morning" | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
and stuff like that. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
Obviously in the morning, he said he was messing about, but to me he was threatening to punch me. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:54 | |
You know, I don't like that. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
The next morning, I challenged him about it, and it ended up... | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
he turned around and, after he'd been saying he was going to punch me all night | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
I didn't know what he was going to do. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:06 | |
So as soon as he turned around, I retaliated and punched him. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
The victim, when he made the abusive comments the night before, he was safe. Ryan couldn't get to him. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:16 | |
Obviously, he just forgot the next morning. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
Everybody comes out, ending result that the young person had a broken nose. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:23 | |
Ryan will receive a red card for this assault, and he will lose all his privileges from now. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:30 | |
So if he's got any electrical items in his room, they will be removed, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
and Ryan will be kept away from the other young person, and it will be at Ryan's detriment. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:38 | |
If two wanted to go to the gym, it would be Ryan that didn't go. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
Ryan still has to go to school, but he will be denied all other activities for 48 hours. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:48 | |
-He remains unrepentant. -..Yeah, but this is it - | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
we're not going to reward you for breaking someone's nose, are we? | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
-I didn't break someone's nose. -It was too out of shape not to be. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
It was pointing that way and that way as well, so it's a pretty safe bet. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
-It's bust! -I couldn't care less, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
I felt like punching him. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
Feeling LIKE punching him and actually doing the deed are two very... | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
'Being kept up all night by the other young person' | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
being quite mouthy to Ryan through the door - | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
being a bit of a window warrior as we call them - | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
was reason enough to punch him square on the nose. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
He thinks he's done the right thing. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
I can't believe he thinks that, though. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
Ash has been at Vinney Green for six weeks now, and he's still not prepared to comply with basic rules, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:42 | |
like keeping his hands out of his trousers. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
You won't be going back to education then, because | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
it's a health and safety risk if we've got to worry about other people fighting and stuff like that. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:53 | |
INDISTINCT | 0:19:53 | 0:19:54 | |
I'm sorry, but this is a really simple request. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
You won't be going back to education. It's your call. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
I won't be going education, then. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
But I'm not allowed to education, then people are going to have to | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
start restraining me, ain't they, cos I'm not going back to my room. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
'If you're in somewhere like Vinney Green, you've got very little control about what you do, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:15 | |
'because we dictate what you do and how you do it.' | 0:20:15 | 0:20:20 | |
Shove it in your face. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:21 | |
'Ashley, because he's got no control in his life, is taking the only action | 0:20:21 | 0:20:26 | |
'he can do, by manipulating certain situations where you know the staff have to respond in a certain way. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:32 | |
Another rule is that the kids can't stop and block the corridors... | 0:20:34 | 0:20:39 | |
so that's exactly what he does. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
'It comes to the stage with Ashley where we've got to get him to move. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
'Restraint is always the last line of our defence, really - | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
'try everything else first.' | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
'Ashley cries out for attention, and he will usually do really negative things to get that attention. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:06 | |
'The aftermath of that - he is really low. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
'He's usually very apologetic afterwards. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
'But that's how Ash is, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
'that's how he's coped.' | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
-How does it feel when you get restrained or something like that? -Great. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
Why? Explain that to me. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
It's a thrill. It's a buzz. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
Just like getting in a fight on the out, it's a buzz. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
There's a perception amongst the children that to get restrained proves how hard they are. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:43 | |
This is the sixth time Ash has been restrained at Vinney Green. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
But here, restraints have been specially developed so that the children don't get hurt. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:53 | |
'It's not much fun if you're 13 or 14, being | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
'dealt with by three or four big members of staff. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
'We do try and do that so that they don't look completely stupid or lose face or loss of dignity. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:07 | |
'But they're children, and should be treated as children.' | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
Over at the other block, Ryan's been at Vinney Green for six weeks now. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
He's received a letter from his mate who's at a secure training centre, which is more like an adult prison. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:30 | |
"I've been sent back down | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
"back in Medway. I get out two weeks after you. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:40 | |
"We should meet up and get fucked out of our heads, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
"get a car or something. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
"Request a transfer to here. It's better than Vinney Green." | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
My favourite words is "big it up", | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
and basically "I'm going to duke you up"... | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
and the way my mate says it, it's funny. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
He just goes, "Yeah, I'm going to duke you up"! | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
Like it's basically... gonna rush someone. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
If you want to know what that means, it's basically, gonna rob someone up for their money or something. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:13 | |
Basically, it's slang talk. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
You go up to people who don't know the slang words, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
and then they're gonna go "What does that mean?" | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
and you'll be like "You'll find out if you keep pissing me off." | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
We talk like that cos we think we're bad, but we're not. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
Like, we all think we're bad, but... | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
we know the truth, we're not bad. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
Cos it's all about the people who we hang around with. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
Ryan has never been in trouble here, but the temptation to succumb to peer pressure is very high for him. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:52 | |
Determined to push for a transfer, Ryan demands a phone call. | 0:23:55 | 0:24:02 | |
He's not allowed to make it at the time he wants, so he copies the | 0:24:02 | 0:24:07 | |
other boys' behaviour, even though he's never been restrained before. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
I think he wanted a phone call because he'd have to come back across. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
What he didn't realise was, he's got to comply and go to his room, and | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
then when the other young people are back, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
he'll get his phone call. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
But he wasn't prepared to do that. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
He was quite threatening towards staff as well. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
So he was threatening to hit people and...whatever, you know? | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
They all just try to push the boundaries that little bit when they want something, you know. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:50 | |
But he's not usually like that, is he? | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
No. And he'll go back and sit down for five minutes or so, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
realise what an idiot he's been and he'll probably be quite nice in ten minutes' time. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
I was, like, I'm going to punch you | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
if you don't get out of my space, basically. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
And it didn't happen and I got dragged back to my room. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
After he's calmed down, Ryan is allowed the phone call, | 0:25:12 | 0:25:17 | |
but there's no hope of a transfer. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:18 | |
The staff call in Lyn, who works with the more vulnerable kids, to tackle Ryan's copycat behaviour. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:29 | |
-Why did you phone your YOT worker today? -Because I want a transfer. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
You want a transfer? | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
You must love it here! | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
No, it's stressful here. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
-Why do you want a transfer, then? -I want to go somewhere with discipline. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
Don't you think we've got discipline here? | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
No. I'm getting away with everything here. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
Feels like a holiday camp, like people say. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
I don't want to go out, and people calling this place a holiday camp, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:56 | |
and then saying, "Ah, you've been to a holiday camp, that's not a strict place at all." | 0:25:56 | 0:26:01 | |
But the lure of a supposedly harder institution won't go away. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
-Yeah, but if I went to an SDC it would scare me not to go back there again. -You think so? | 0:26:05 | 0:26:12 | |
In here it's like a children's home. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
I won't learn my lesson, and I'll come back. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
I think it's probably true in society that people are looking to belong to something. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:26 | |
Some people belong in their families, and that works for them. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
Some belong with their friends. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:31 | |
Some people's friends are their gangs, and people want to belong. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
And for Ryan, I know he's got a good mate. He belongs with that person. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:41 | |
Unfortunately, their... | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
sense of fun and their purpose is gained from doing things | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
which actually aren't allowed, and that's what breaking the law is. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
Ash has been at Vinney Green for eight weeks now, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
and he's still behaving in the same way. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
After disrupting a class, he refuses to move. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
Normally with Ashley if you try and cajole him to moving, you know, | 0:27:06 | 0:27:11 | |
just gentle sort of taps on the back, etc. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
Sometimes Ashley will move, other times he won't. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
And that's when... You can see from the CCTV footage, that I, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
with another member of staff, gave each other the wink, which was when we decided that we had to move him. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:25 | |
There was no other way out of it, he had to move to enable the rest of the group to function. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
In a lot of cases, any attention is better than no attention. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
Young people like Ashley, sometimes all they want to do is physically be held. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
It's almost like replacing the parent that has been missing in their lives. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:45 | |
It's almost like they just want a cuddle, really, a lot of the time, | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
and once you've grabbed hold of them and they've had their little struggle, then all | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
the tension goes out of them, then they relax, and there's never any hostility aimed towards you. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:57 | |
These young people are very complex individuals with lots of issues. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:08 | |
They have basically been told pretty much most of their lives they won't amount to anything. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:15 | |
What you do see is some young people that have been brought up in really difficult circumstances. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:21 | |
And you can see that the majority of them have not been treated well. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:26 | |
Most of the young people in here have had other troubles. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
Life has not been good. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
When I was... | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
about three... | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
my ma abandoned me and left me with my dad | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
And up until about the age of six, | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
my...my...dad just | 0:28:46 | 0:28:51 | |
beat me with a baseball bat, | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
weapons, and just damaged me. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
At the age of six, I ran off | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
and the police took me and stuck me in care for my own safety. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:04 | |
And then since about the age of six, I've been in care | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
and been moved around, home to home, children's homes, foster homes, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:13 | |
different counties. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
Down to, like, Cornwall. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
I've been to different secure units. I've been to | 0:29:17 | 0:29:22 | |
four other secure units. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
For my ma, I hated my mum for it, and still do. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
For my dad... | 0:29:32 | 0:29:33 | |
..I wish that he gets exactly what he gave me. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
Obviously, I wasn't happy about it, I didn't like it, but there was nothing I could do about it. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:48 | |
I was little...so... | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
It takes a long time to undo the damage. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
Far longer than what we've got them for. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
So it's difficult, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:06 | |
very difficult for him, yeah. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
Five people will have starter, main course and dessert. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
So that would be £5, yeah, this one? | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
Ryan, like 50% of children in secure institutions, has been in and out of care. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:33 | |
I come from around Exeter way. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
My mum lives down that way. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
I've been in care, stuff like that, really. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
When did you first go to care? | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
When I was nine. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
Tell me about that. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:49 | |
Just being a little shit, I suppose. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
Getting in trouble, going out. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
That's pretty much why I was in there. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
If you went into a restaurant and a typical service charge was 10% and if your bill came to £8, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:09 | |
you would give the waitress 10% of what that bill was. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
Now £10 is easy to work out. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
What are you on about? If a waitress asked me for £8, I would give her £8. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
I wouldn't give her 10% of nothing. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:19 | |
Yeah, but some people do. Traditionally, that's what... | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
I don't give a shit about tradition. She'd get what she's given. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
OK. But if you were trying to work it out... | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
Just tell me what it is, Cory, we ain't got all day. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
It is for you to try and work out. If I tell you, will you work out the next one? | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
Tell me what it is and then I can crack on, can't I? | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
If we had £8, 10% of it, we move the decimal point one way that way, | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
because we just want to know 10%, so that would then become that number. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:47 | |
80p. See, that weren't hard. If you start me off then I can do it then. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
It's much easier, isn't it? | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
I'd been to quite a few schools. I got kicked out of a few of them and the schools that I did go to... | 0:31:54 | 0:31:59 | |
..didn't really work out too well. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
Getting in trouble, not turning up to lessons, arguing with teachers, fighting. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:09 | |
Sometimes I just get myself in trouble because I wanted to. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
I can't be arsed with it. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
We're looking for that one thing that will be like a light bulb | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
coming on for them. "Oh, I can do something! I am good at something." | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
Man, I hate cutting onions! | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
For some people, it's often a vocational thing. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
And then, hopefully, that's something they can build on | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
as they then go out and back into the community later. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
# I am a rude boy MC coming through like a lyrical G. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
# You spit grime but you ain't never heard something like me. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
# I provide my buzz like you provide my cars. # | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
I'm coming through like a lyrical G | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
And something that rhymes with rude boy. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
-I spit fires like Mars, but naturally. -That's it. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
The teachers work constantly on the children's self esteem. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
-Ashley has got four weeks to go now. -Fuck this. Scrap the whole lot. | 0:32:54 | 0:33:00 | |
Stop there, stop there! | 0:33:00 | 0:33:01 | |
-It's not that bad! -I bet you didn't save that either, did you? | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
-I don't give a fuck. -Keep practising and you'll get better. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
I'm not good with my words so people say things I don't understand and it's, like... | 0:33:08 | 0:33:13 | |
So, I've got to make a simple buzz for myself to understand it. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
But that's how you start. Eventually, you'll build on that. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
You just have to have confidence. It will come out. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
-I ain't got none of that confidence shit. -Well, you should have. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
He's a nice young man, actually, but really quite down on himself | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
and doesn't feel that there's a whole lot that he can do. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
This is a frustration. So many times this happens. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
Somebody does a piece of work, we're on there going, "You've done great, you're doing really well." | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
"No, it's rubbish." | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
Ashley, come on. Stop it. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
Ashley, come on, then. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
HE SCREAMS AND BANGS | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
Thinking about going makes me, like, the happiest man. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
I just can't wait. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
I can't wait to get wrecked. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
Can't wait to have fun. Can't wait to see my mates. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
Can't wait to smoke a fag... | 0:34:16 | 0:34:17 | |
..and can't wait to get up to my usual self, | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
my troubled self. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
By Christmas, I'll be back inside, I reckon. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
Why? | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
I don't know. It's just my life. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:39 | |
Trouble. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
Underpinning all the work here is building the kids' self confidence. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
Ryan gets one to one input. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
He's dropped the idea of wanting a transfer and is making progress. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
How are we going to get these two, then? | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
-I don't know whether it's going to be possible. -It ain't. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
The staff try and focus on something the kids are passionate about. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
In Ryan's case, it's cars. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
What about buying your own car and doing that up? | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
Yeah, well, how am I going to get the money to get a car? | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
I've taught you how to clean cars. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
-Yeah? -So you could clean cars, charge £10 a car. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
-Clean 20 cars, you've got 200. -What, when the rain's about now? -Yeah. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
Say you clean 20 cars, that's £200. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
£200 buys you something like this, you can start working on it with a | 0:35:39 | 0:35:43 | |
bit of extra money from carrying on working and you do it up gradually. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
Perfect. You know, there's plenty more that | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
you can do with cars, it's not just about just grabbing somebody else's car and going out and joy riding it. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:59 | |
If you've got your own car that you care about and you know how to work on and treat well, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:04 | |
then perhaps you'll end up having more respect | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
for other people's property as well, because you sort of get to know what somebody's car means to them. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:14 | |
-Better. -Yeah. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
"My youngest brother was only | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
"three months...old. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:26 | |
"I left school to look after him." | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
They're also working on things Ryan struggles with. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
"When I was 12 years old..." | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
The unit sees dramatic rises in educational achievement. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
On average, reading ages improve by two years for young people who stay for three months or longer. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:46 | |
When I was on the out, I wouldn't go to school and now I have learnt how to, basically, write properly, read. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:54 | |
Basically, do all that. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
Obviously, the concern is when he leaves, because he's not going to have 24-7 supervision. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:09 | |
It's so easy to go off the rails when you first go out, because you've been locked inside | 0:37:11 | 0:37:18 | |
and the first thing you want to do is go and see your mates, | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
not come in at a certain time and that is when a lot of young people fail. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:26 | |
They can be easily swayed by other young people and that, to me, is about being accepted. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:34 | |
When he leaves Vinney Green, Ryan is going home to live with his dad. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
OK, just reading them, do you think they're fair? I do. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
Ryan is being allowed out on certain conditions. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
At his visit, his dad has brought with him a set of rules | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
so that Ryan knows exactly what's expected of him when he goes home. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
"If you do go out during the week, you'll be back home no later than 9.30pm." | 0:37:56 | 0:38:03 | |
You've never been able to stick to certain rules. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
Ryan's case manager, Georgina, has to make sure | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
that he fully understands the implications of these rules. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
"You will come home after school so I can see how school went." | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
Do you understand what that means? | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
What do you think Dad meant by that? | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
That if I had some bad days, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
I'd do a runner. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
I shouldn't do that. I should speak my problems. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
Right, it's about ironing out problems. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
-Dad can't do anything. He's not a mind reader, is he? -No. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
If you don't tell him, he can't do anything about it. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
What you practise and what you've learned from being in here, | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
you've got to try and do that outside, haven't you? | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
And I think, you know, if you think you're being dragged into something, you have got to talk to somebody. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:50 | |
You have got to talk to Dad, because it's too late once you've, you know, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
gone beyond that and you've done something wrong. I know you can be easily encouraged, can't you? | 0:38:53 | 0:38:58 | |
And your mates are having a good time | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
and you think you're having a good time because they're including you. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
You've got to think about what your goal is, and that's about keeping to | 0:39:05 | 0:39:10 | |
the rules and boundaries and keeping out of trouble. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
You can easily get drawn into it, Ryan, you know that. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
-I know. -Anybody can. All right? | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
Not everyone makes plans with their family. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
The other Ryan has his own plans for his life | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
and the 210 days of discipline seem to have had an effect. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
This is a careers book, which just tells me about how to join, what it's like in there, | 0:39:31 | 0:39:38 | |
the training you've got to go through. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
It tells you about the pay and pension, what happens if you get injured, stuff like that. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:47 | |
It sounds quite good, like. Well, not getting injured! | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
But I mean, like, all the stuff they give you. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
If I get out, | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
the only thing that would bother me is like, getting back into drugs and stuff like that, because obviously | 0:39:55 | 0:40:00 | |
I'm one of those people that did enjoy a smoke. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
Like, smoking cannabis. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
And if I had the choice, I would probably do it again, | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
but the fact I'm getting older now, I want to get out and join, like, the Marines when I get out, so... | 0:40:08 | 0:40:13 | |
Obviously, you've got to be fit to do that and when I get out, I want to get into that as soon as possible | 0:40:13 | 0:40:19 | |
so I don't have a chance to get back into drugs. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
Since I've come in here, I've been a lot fitter and stuff like that because, obviously, we still have | 0:40:22 | 0:40:27 | |
a laugh and that in here, but we just can't get the alcohol, the drugs and stuff like that, | 0:40:27 | 0:40:32 | |
so even if we wanted it, we can't, which is a good thing about here, in a way. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
Ash has been at Vinney Green for ten weeks now and he, too, is changing. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:47 | |
-It's called rendering. -I'm learning to plaster, paint and decorate. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:52 | |
I'm doing this, then I've got to wait for it to dry. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
And then all the little holes, fill it back up. | 0:40:55 | 0:41:00 | |
Ashley is the type of lad you just warm to. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
He's one of the ones I wish we had for two years, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
if not longer! | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
If he got into college with different friends, | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
positive role models, there is possibly a chance for Ash. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:18 | |
So, one in the front, one in the back? | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
The best thing in Vinney Green is probably the vocational centre, for me, personally. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:27 | |
It's helped me to take my anger out on something positive, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:35 | |
so that if I feel frustrated and I come over here, I work it off. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:40 | |
I do work and it feels like when I leave, I don't feel angry. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:45 | |
It does help me to maybe think better. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
It's given me time to think about things. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:56 | |
What happened? I'm asking you, do you want help. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
Yeah, you are. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
-Basically... -You've got to do it faster. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:04 | |
-Like, more than that. -Yeah. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
Basically, just slop it on. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
It's been ten days since Ash has been restrained. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
Being less difficult and disruptive has helped him to make some friends. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:15 | |
-Get back over the wall now. -Aw, he's so cute, isn't he? | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
Isn't he? | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
I just said you're cute, right? | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
-That's nice to know. -He's so cute, isn't he? | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
I told my mother about him the other day, as well. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
Look at that ass! | 0:42:32 | 0:42:33 | |
Yeah, Ashley, fucking shut up. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
# Shaking that ass! | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
# Watch you, baby, shaking that ass. # | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
Ryan has managed to get his hands on rosary beads, although they're only copied onto a T shirt. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:50 | |
But as he settles down to his last week at Vinney Green, he's found something he enjoys. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:55 | |
Every time he's out here, he works really hard. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
There's a few kids that will come out and will do it. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
But he'll do the work the entire time, no matter what you ask him to do. He's more than happy. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
I imagine he'll end up doing something like this, hopefully get a job when he leaves. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
But unless they've got a job instantly, that day when they get out, | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
even a couple of days, they're back into not being bothered. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:17 | |
So it is hard. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:18 | |
It's a shame, really. They do a lot of work in here that's really good and then go out | 0:43:18 | 0:43:22 | |
to the same friends, the same group of mates that are causing trouble. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
And it's easy for them to get back into the lifestyle straight away. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:29 | |
Convicted criminal. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
-See you in a bit. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:36 | |
When I switch my lights off and I go to bed, I'm going to be thinking about Friday night, | 0:43:37 | 0:43:43 | |
when I go to the rave | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
and get smashed out of my face. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
-But do you think going to a rave is a good way to start? -Yeah. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:53 | |
-Best of luck, right? You take it easy. -Yeah. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
-And stay out of trouble, all right? -Do you think I could get a hug? | 0:43:56 | 0:43:59 | |
Yeah. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:00 | |
-Take care. Don't come back this time. -I won't. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:03 | |
Let's go. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:04 | |
Ryan. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:11 | |
-All the best. -After three months, Ryan leaves. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:14 | |
But he must stick to the rules, otherwise he could face returning to Vinney Green. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:19 | |
Ash has a few more days to go. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
The plan for him is to stay in his local area and to go to | 0:44:36 | 0:44:42 | |
a community home with four other young people. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:46 | |
And to get him on some kind of painting and decorating training course. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:51 | |
He's got a natural flare for that. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:53 | |
The work that I've done here is probably the best achievement that I've done in my life. | 0:44:54 | 0:45:01 | |
I'm not used to working this hard. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:04 | |
Normally I give up. I don't want to do nothing. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:07 | |
I want to really want to stay out of trouble, get myself a job, get myself a missus and settle down. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:14 | |
Not be in and out of these places. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:16 | |
So, it's all good. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:18 | |
All good. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:20 | |
It's just up to me now, it's what I choose. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:24 | |
OK. Ashley? | 0:45:27 | 0:45:29 | |
He's been excellent in vocational. Excellent. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
He's had a lot of time with John and | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
positively started talking, for the first time, about, "Actually, maybe I could do this when I leave." | 0:45:35 | 0:45:41 | |
Rather than, "I'll go and do something else wrong." | 0:45:41 | 0:45:44 | |
Because he talks about that a lot. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
But the plans for his departure are proving anything but straightforward. | 0:45:46 | 0:45:51 | |
There was a rumour at the beginning of this week that the placement had broken down. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:56 | |
They were basically notifying us | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
to say that they were looking for something else and they needed to do a risk assessment. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:04 | |
If someone comes and tells him, you're not going where you thought you were going, | 0:46:04 | 0:46:09 | |
he's going to be a problem between now and when he goes, I'm sure. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
He doesn't like not knowing, I think. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
He needs to know at the time where he's going. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
His last full day begins with a surprise visit | 0:46:23 | 0:46:27 | |
from the police. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
I'm not sure if he's about to be charged. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:35 | |
But he's not exactly in the best of spirits at the moment. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:39 | |
You would think that knowing that somebody is locked up for this period of time, | 0:46:39 | 0:46:45 | |
that they would come and deal with outstanding matters within the first week or two weeks of him being here. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:51 | |
But that obviously isn't always the case. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
Ash is not told what's going to happen to him. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
The police come to interview me about a burglary. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:03 | |
Me and my brother supposedly broke into a house that was a cannabis factory | 0:47:03 | 0:47:09 | |
and apparently robbed it. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
But I don't know nothing about it. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
They've left it like that and they said if it comes against it, | 0:47:17 | 0:47:22 | |
it could be that I charged when I get released and I could be re-arrested. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:27 | |
Are you worried about it? | 0:47:27 | 0:47:29 | |
No, not at all. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:30 | |
It doesn't really bother me. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:36 | |
It's just that I want to get out. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
Anything that happens, happens. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:41 | |
But as long as I get out, I'm cool. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:43 | |
His last night is spent not knowing whether he will be arrested at the gates in the morning. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:54 | |
You must attend your appointments. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:03 | |
If you miss two appointments, you'll be... | 0:48:03 | 0:48:08 | |
Your... | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
Something has not been something... | 0:48:10 | 0:48:15 | |
Within two weeks, Ryan has broken the rules. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:19 | |
He's failed to attend important meetings and has received a final warning. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:25 | |
Not very happy with it, of course. He should have gone. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:28 | |
He had enough warnings. The day before, he was warned. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:30 | |
He was warned in the night and he was warned in the morning. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
And when I went, I told him, and also rang him three times. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:37 | |
He just wouldn't get out of bed. It's as simple as that. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:40 | |
So, it was down to him. I can't hold his hand and take him there. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:43 | |
If he can't be bothered, he'll end up where he ended up before. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:47 | |
I broke another one of my dad's rules. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:51 | |
How's he feeling about that? | 0:48:51 | 0:48:53 | |
Kind of upset and angry at the same time. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:57 | |
But life goes on, doesn't it? | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
It's all good. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:01 | |
Ash is given his last breakfast behind bars. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:19 | |
He's quite a prolific offender. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:27 | |
If I'm absolutely honest, it's kind of a way of life for him. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:33 | |
I think he finds comfort | 0:49:33 | 0:49:35 | |
in being with his friends and offending, | 0:49:35 | 0:49:38 | |
because it's like a family. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
So, it's 50-50, really. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Ashley back here. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
But I'm crossing my fingers, like I do with all young people, that he won't come back. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:52 | |
When he leaves Vinney Green, social services will take over | 0:49:52 | 0:49:56 | |
responsibility for where Ash will live. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
I'm a free man. I want to walk out of that gate right now. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:03 | |
His social worker has come to collect him. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:06 | |
But he's got bad news. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:08 | |
They haven't found him a bed. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:10 | |
A referral was made to the placement. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:15 | |
There wasn't a bed available and nothing's been sorted out. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:19 | |
Disgusting. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:21 | |
Absolutely disgusting. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:23 | |
-Where are they going to take him? -They haven't got anything for him. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:26 | |
Could be a foster placement in Weston. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:30 | |
-He'll run away from that. -He'll be gone tonight. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:33 | |
He's got savings. Money with him? | 0:50:33 | 0:50:36 | |
20p? | 0:50:36 | 0:50:38 | |
But Georgina still has to break the bad news to him. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:42 | |
He may get a little bit upset. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:53 | |
I'm sure I would. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
Because there was a placement already set up. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:57 | |
How many times are they going to do that to them? | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
He's left here now without a bed. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:23 | |
Nowhere to go, I don't know where he's going. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:26 | |
So they've got to find something for him. And it could be... | 0:51:26 | 0:51:29 | |
anything, really. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:31 | |
Jump in the car. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:48 | |
There's no sign of the police at the gate. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
But Ash leaves Vinney Green with 20p in his pocket and no idea where he's going to stay tonight. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:10 | |
I gave him 50-50, earlier this morning. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
We're not looking at 50-50 now. Because he's probably | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
going to run away from anywhere he is. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
He's only taken 20p savings with him. So, what's he going to do? | 0:52:18 | 0:52:23 | |
I don't know. I don't want to jinx him, but it's not looking good. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:26 | |
It's switched off. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:35 | |
Not seen him today. Not heard from him. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
Not a word or a dicky bird. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:41 | |
Ryan has started to hang out with his old mates. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:45 | |
It's nearly midnight and he's failed to come home. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:49 | |
He's obviously decided it's more fun getting into trouble | 0:52:49 | 0:52:53 | |
than it is being home and sleeping and not getting into trouble. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:58 | |
There's nothing else I can do. | 0:52:58 | 0:52:59 | |
I can't chain him to the wall or something, or go down there and bust his... | 0:52:59 | 0:53:04 | |
You know, sort of bring him back here and say, "You've got to be here and you're not doing this." | 0:53:04 | 0:53:09 | |
It doesn't work that way. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:11 | |
I don't know how I feel. I just feel so mixed up and so let down. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:16 | |
Hi, have you got Ryan? | 0:53:37 | 0:53:39 | |
Lovely. OK, do you want to come through to the side gate? | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
Four weeks after Ryan left Vinney Green, | 0:53:45 | 0:53:49 | |
he arrives back for the third time in nine months. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:55 | |
-Hi, Ryan. -Hi, Ryan, welcome back! | 0:53:59 | 0:54:03 | |
Welcome back, mate. Do you want to come through? | 0:54:04 | 0:54:07 | |
I am one of those people who do believe that sometimes young people | 0:54:07 | 0:54:10 | |
do need to be detained, actually, for their own good, for society's good. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:14 | |
We need to do that as humanely and as positively as possible. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:20 | |
Try and treat them with respect and dignity. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:22 | |
It's six months since Ash left Vinney Green. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:48 | |
He stayed with a foster family, then went into a flat provided by social services. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:55 | |
He decided to leave and is now living in a squat. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
I had a vision I could change when I got out. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
Had a vision I could change when I got out but, | 0:55:04 | 0:55:08 | |
I don't know. Vocational, construction, found something I liked. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:13 | |
And then I got out and started following it. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
Went to college for about a month. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:17 | |
Got on a painting and decorator's course, which is what I wanted to do. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:21 | |
Sorted that out. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:22 | |
And then I lost my temper one day in college, got threw out and banned for life from all colleges. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:29 | |
So in a way, I fucked that up for myself. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:32 | |
But I tried. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:34 | |
Can't say that I didn't try, cos I did. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:37 | |
I followed it up. I didn't get out and go straight back. I tried, I went to college, I pursued it. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:43 | |
And then it just didn't work out. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
So, back to the way I am. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
The fact that it got me away from all my friends, | 0:55:48 | 0:55:52 | |
the drugs, it just got me away from it all and it gave me time to think. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:56 | |
But you get outside and things don't go how you want it to do | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
and then you end up straight back in the same situation as you was before you went in. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:06 | |
I really wanted to change in Vinney. But then... | 0:56:06 | 0:56:09 | |
I got out and things just went, like... | 0:56:09 | 0:56:12 | |
Fuck knows, like an aeroplane dropping on to two towers. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:18 | |
Just, like, disaster. Kaboom! | 0:56:18 | 0:56:21 | |
Basically. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:23 | |
Just everything got fucked up. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:25 | |
I still can change. I still reckon I can change. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:30 | |
But it's fucking hard. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:33 | |
So hard. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:36 | |
But one day I'll change. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:38 | |
One day. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:40 | |
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