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-AUTOMATED VOICE: -This is a free call from an inmate at Varner Unit. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
You may start the conversation now. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
It was awful. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:08 | |
Just the not knowing for so long. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
If it's the law of the land and the jury metes out that punishment, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
then that should be carried out. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
We're here today to stop the executions. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:01:38 | 0:01:39 | |
Why are we protesting? They're doing the right thing. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
Those trials were 20... Some of them, over 20 years ago. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
He started to gasp and gulp and struggled to breathe, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:56 | |
and that lasted for an hour and 57 minutes. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:01 | |
Jeff just called me, the Arkansas Supreme Court | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
gave him the stay on the DNA. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
Oh Judy, Judy, Judy, did they really?! | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
We got a stay! | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
Oh! | 0:02:15 | 0:02:16 | |
Thank you, Jesus. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
Thank you. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:19 | |
I am so sorry. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:47 | |
Where the heck is this taking me? Like, seriously. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -What is it you're searching for at the moment? | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
An ATM machine, because there's vending machines | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
right there at the visitation and my brother has requested | 0:03:33 | 0:03:38 | |
four Dr Peppers and some candy. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
So, as his little sister, I'm doing everything I can to find | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
an ATM machine to get him his Dr Peppers before my visit today. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:50 | |
-I got it. Yes! -Success? | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
Yes, now he can have a Dr Pepper, just don't let me forget to... | 0:03:58 | 0:04:03 | |
To... | 0:04:03 | 0:04:04 | |
bring it into the prison with me. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
The drive out to the prison is always the same. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
I just... I get butterflies in my stomach, I get nervous. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
The only thing that gives me peace, sometimes, is I look over and I love | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
looking at these horses. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
These horses are always here, they're beautiful. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
You know, they're free to walk where they want, eat when they want. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
And then, 500 feet away, there's this. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
Yeah. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:38 | |
And here we are. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:42 | |
OK, you have to show your driver's licence and then you have | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
to put your money in this little plastic bag, cos they put it | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
through the screener. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
And that's what I'll use in the vending machine... | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
to buy him his Dr Peppers. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
Hey, buddy. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
-Hey. -How you doing? | 0:05:06 | 0:05:07 | |
I'm a little mad. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
Yeah. I'm sorry, honey. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
Right. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:43 | |
-REPORTER: -During the past two decades on death row, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
Jones riddled with a series of medical issues, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
including diabetes, that caused him to lose one of his legs. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
He and his attorney argue all the medication he's on could render | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
one of the lethal injection drugs useless. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
My fear, and his fear, is that the Midazolam will not take effect, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:22 | |
there will be a burning sensation, and Jack will feel it and he'll feel | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
like he's suffocating, and it'll be a very, very painful death. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
He's high-risk. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
They had a doctor come in and test all eight of them | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
to determine who was going to be high-risk with the Midazolam, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
and Jack was high-risk. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
So, they know going in, it could very well be botched. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
-REPORTER: -The last decision the governor has to make - | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
whether to grant executive clemency for some of the inmates, which would | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
commute their sentences to life without parole. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
An option Hutchinson says he'll maintain up until the end, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
with the victims' families close to his heart. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
Good afternoon, Chairman Feltz and members of the Board of Parole. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:20 | |
My name is Chris Raff and I was the elected prosecuting attorney | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
in the 17th Judicial District for 32 years. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
I prosecuted and tried the jury trial | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
which convicted Jack Jones Jr of capital murder. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
On the afternoon of June 6th, 1995, | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
34-year-old Mary Phillips was at work | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
in the accounting and tax service where she served. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
She was a mother of three children, and a wife. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
Her 17-year-old daughter, Darla, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
had just dropped off her 11-year-old daughter, Lacey. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
That afternoon, Lacey had a four o'clock dental appointment. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
I didn't just drop her off, I got out of the car and then | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
I walked inside the office and we were talking and laughing, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
no big deal. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:19 | |
And my mom went to, you know, kiss me goodbye and tell me, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
"I love you." | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
So that's one of the biggest positive things, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
is the last thing I said to my mom is, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
"I love you, I will see you later." | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
I got in the car and went to my friend's to stay the night... | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
..and they went back inside... | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
and... | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
..I never saw her again. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
That afternoon, Jack Jones Jr, carrying with him wire, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:09 | |
latex gloves and a pistol, entered that business. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:14 | |
He told them he was going to rob them and he began to tie them up | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
with the wire he brought. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
He then took 11-year-old Lacey into a separate bathroom | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
off of that room and sat her in a metal chair... | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
..and he tied her to that chair. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:32 | |
He went back to her mother... | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
he raped her... | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
he beat her, he strangled her. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
When she didn't die yet, he tore the cord off | 0:09:45 | 0:09:50 | |
a Mr Coffee coffee maker and he strangled her until her death. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
Then Jack Jones Jr, the subject of why we're here today... | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
..went back into the bathroom... | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
..where Lacey said to him... | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
"Please don't hurt my mama." | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
And Jack told her... | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
"I'm not going to hurt your mama, I'm here to hurt you." | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
I was at home, shortly after midnight, when I received the call. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
At that time, I was living here in Bald Knob, so it only took me about, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:35 | |
you know, five minutes or so to get to that location. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
This was one of the worst crimes I've ever worked on, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
especially for emotionally, you know, and stuff... | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
because of the young girl involved. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
Cos one of the things I always did when I went to a crime scene, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
I like to go in from the beginning and do my photos and stuff. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:03 | |
When I arrived, this door was to the tax office. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:16 | |
I went in, Miss Phillips was lying on the floor. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
She'd obviously been raped... | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
and strangled. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
When the scene was finally discovered by the police... | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
..and they saw Mary, nude, tied up, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
beaten, raped, dead, laying on the floor, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
and of course they photographed that scene, and then one | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
of the deputies noticed blood coming from a shut door, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
which was the door to the bathroom. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
He opened that door and told the other officers, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:52 | |
"My God, we've got another one in here." | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
It was awful, just a crack in the door, you could just see her. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
When I went in, she was tied to a chair. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
I took a picture, there was a flash of the light. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
And at the very moment... | 0:12:06 | 0:12:07 | |
..he took the photograph, when the lens snapped, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
Lacey opened her eyes. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
I woke up. I heard... | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
SHE MAKES A CLICKING SOUND | 0:12:27 | 0:12:28 | |
..and I was like, "Is there someone there? | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
"Hey, is there someone taking pictures?" | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
You know, at this point in time, I never moved, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
and I turned my head and when I did, I heard a man say, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:40 | |
"This one's alive." | 0:12:40 | 0:12:41 | |
I thought she was dead. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
So, when she looked up at me, it was pretty much a shock. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
You know, I had no clue what was going on. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
I wasn't in pain, and I said, "Can you untie me, please?" | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
And the man said, "Yes, ma'am, yes." | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
I never thought, "Oh, gosh, my mom's dead," | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
or got scared or got... I never had a single emotion. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
Uh-uh. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
Lacey told us that the person that did this | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
had a teardrop tattoo on his cheek | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
and that is how the police got onto Jack Jones Jr. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:23 | |
He admitted the rapes, the beating and the assaults | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
on both Mary, which killed her, and the assault on Lacey, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
which he thought had killed her. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
They had to reconstruct my skull. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:35 | |
I have metal plates that they had to put in my head. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
A bone underneath this eye here was broken, my jaw was fractured, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:50 | |
I had over 1,000 staples and stitches in my head. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
What they titled her surgery as was a "Humpty Dumpty surgery," | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
because there were so many little pieces of the skull | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
that were broken, small, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
they had to put her back together like Humpty Dumpty, | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
and that's the way they explained it to her. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
I remember looking around and there was a nurse in there. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
I said, "Where's my mom? | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
"I want to see my mom." | 0:15:18 | 0:15:19 | |
I've been here before, this is not the first time I've been here, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
and me and my family have been here. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
You know, I came one time and said I had a four-year-old daughter. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
OK, well, now I have an 11-year-old daughter, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
the same age as I was when... | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
When Mom was taken away from me and my family. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
And it's... It's ridiculous that we have had to live | 0:15:49 | 0:15:54 | |
our whole life like this. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
He admitted to what he did, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
he needs to pay for it, | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
and I don't want to live another day knowing that he's alive. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
You know, 21 years. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
I heard an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
and I think... I think it's time. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
So, thank you. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
Good morning. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
-ALL: -Good morning. -Y'all can do better than that. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
-Good morning. -LOUDER: -Good morning. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
Oh, now we've got it. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
We want to welcome you to this press conference | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
to bring attention to a letter that has been signed onto | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
by over 200 clergy members to bring attention | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
to the scheduled executions here in our State. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
This letter will be delivered to the governor | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
following this press conference. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
Speaking for us this morning is Dr Schnekloth, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
who's the pastor of the Evangelical Lutheran Church, in America. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
I didn't ever anticipate as a pastor in the church that on Holy Week... | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
..when I'm reading texts getting ready to preach on Good Friday about | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
capital punishment, that there would be people in my State that were | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
assigned the job to sort out all the details of execution | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
on the days following Easter. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
It means that the same lithology I'm going through this week of | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
remembering that there were soldiers and there were government officials | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
who are doing the work necessary to kill Jesus, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
that the very following week people in my State are actually | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
getting the medicines together, the cocktails together, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
the equipment together to kill these men. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
And if our governor is going to lead in a way that is humane, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:44 | |
he's going to have to take a different action | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
than the one he's trending towards right now and next week. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
I think he's a good man. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:52 | |
What he can't do is what Pilot did... | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
"..I wash my hands." | 0:18:57 | 0:18:58 | |
-Right? -APPLAUSE | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
And so, we call on Governor Asa Hutchinson and Leslie Rutledge, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
the Attorney General, to do everything that they can | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
to commute these sentences to life without parole, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
so that they will not have blood on their hands, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:15 | |
and so that the world doesn't have to see Arkansas be the state | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
that kills more people than any state in the history | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
of the United States has in the last decades. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
We, the following faith leaders call, on Governor Asa Hutchinson | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
to stop the upcoming scheduled executions | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
and commute their sentences to life without parole. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
As faith leaders, we are opposed to the death penalty | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
because we believe that, in spite of their actions, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
they retain the God-given dignity of human life, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
which must be respected. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:48 | |
Yes, sir, I will receive it on behalf of the governor. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
-All right, thank you so much. -OK, thank you, and where are you from? | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
We are from Interfaith Arkansas, Faith Voices Arkansas. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
Interfaith Arkansas? Thank you. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
-Thank you so much. -You're welcome. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
-Have a good day. -You too. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:02 | |
Death by execution is part of the law of Arkansas, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
as well as many states in the United States | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
and our Federal Government. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
And so, when I took the oath of office as governor, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
I was sworn to uphold the laws of Arkansas, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
and this being one of them. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:26 | |
And so, this is not a process that I started, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
this is a process that our law started, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
and I have to make the final signature to set the date, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
but it's really the end of a very long process | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
that the victims have waited for decades to have these | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
sentences carried out, and it was... | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
It would have been inappropriate and wrong for me | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
to delay that further. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:49 | |
Is it the toughest decision you ever had to make as Governor? | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
Yeah, I tried to excuse myself from the responsibility for it. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:01 | |
But the fact remains that a governor who allows an execution | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
to go forward has allowed that person to die. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
I think we have a lot of ambitious people in Arkansas, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
we have a lot of smart people in Arkansas. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
You know, we've had a president. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
Not that I cared for him, but we had one. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
As it stands right now, Arkansas is more of a conservative state | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
than what it used to be. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:36 | |
So, having conservative values and so forth, I'm pro the death penalty. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:42 | |
Asa Hutchinson's a Republican, you know. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
It's up to him to decide whether they live or whether they die. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
I'll tell you what, right now I thank God | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
I ain't got his job in all honesty, because that's serious. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
That is serious. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:58 | |
Stacy was the life of the party. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
Kind of a spitfire. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
She done what she wanted to do and didn't care | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
whether anybody liked it or not. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
She liked to have fun, she loved the kids. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
Her husband was overseas, he wasn't even around here to help her. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
We were living on the Rock Air Force Base, | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
my dad was in the Airforce. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
We lived diagonally across the street from Stacy. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
She was ten years older, I was 12 and she was 22. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
So, I'd go over there even when I wasn't baby-sitting just to | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
play with the kids and hang out. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
Stacy came and got me at about 6:30 that morning. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
I was maybe five, ten minutes in the house before she said | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
that she had to run and get gas on her way to work, | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
and then she was out the door. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
Two and a half hours later when the girls that worked with her, | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
that lived on the base also... | 0:24:40 | 0:24:41 | |
..she called me and wanted to know if I knew where she's at, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
and I said, "No, at work, I guess." | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
And she said, "No, I'm at work and she's not here." | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
We started just driving around... | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
..to see if we could see anything of her. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
I saw her truck right behind a service station. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
It was unlocked, but there was a lot of receipts from ATMs in it. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:11 | |
On Sunday, November the 20th of 1994, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
the mother of Stacy Errickson reported her missing. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
We knew that there had been some activity on her bank account. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:28 | |
So on the 21st, we were able to obtain some photographs | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
from the ATM, the automatic teller machines... | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
from here in Jacksonville. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:36 | |
The pictures show her on the passenger side of her vehicle... | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
..and a black male driver of the vehicle. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
-You all right? -Yeah. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:02 | |
-MARCEL LAUGHS -You can name one. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
During the interview process, we did not know | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
the location of Stacy Errickson. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
I suspected that Marcel had actually abducted her | 0:26:32 | 0:26:37 | |
and that she probably was no longer alive. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
So we were trying to get him to help us locate where Stacy was at, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:45 | |
so the family could get closure. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
He admitted to abducting her, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
admitted to taking her to the ATM machines, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
but he also implicated two other subjects, | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
and had also said that when he last saw her, she was alive. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
What's going through my mind is a game. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
We felt like he was living through what had happened, | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
but was only putting someone else's name in his place. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:39 | |
MARCEL SIGHS | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
At no point during the interview did he confess | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
to killing Stacy Errickson. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
So, after 13 hours of interview, we felt that he was not going | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
to give us the location of Stacy Errickson, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
and the interview ended. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:24 | |
They kept trying to find her and they couldn't find her nowhere. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
They had no idea, they was hunting through weeds and stuff. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
It was awful. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:40 | |
Just the not knowing... | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
..for so long. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
And it was only two weeks, but it felt like an eternity. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
On December 5th, two North Little Rock officers searching the area | 0:30:52 | 0:30:57 | |
finally found the shallow grave. | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
The coroner said when they redone the autopsy on her | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
that he had strangled her... | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
to death before he buried her. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
Marcel Williams was found guilty of kidnapping, rape and murder | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
on Stacy Errickson, which he received the death penalty for. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
I'm here by myself. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:46 | |
I know Stacy would have been here if she had been alive. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
It's hard and lonesome. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
It's an... | 0:31:59 | 0:32:00 | |
..empty space. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:03 | |
I've been waiting 23 years for them to finally get around to his day. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:27 | |
I want it completely over with before I pass away. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
Marcel Williams is my boogie man. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
He doesn't deserve any mercy. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
I thank you to deny this monster clemency | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
and allow justice to be served. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
Thank you for your time. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:50 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
REPORTER: Currently, there are no legal blocks that would stop | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
Jack Jones' or Marcel Williams' executions, | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
and if things go according to the state's plan, | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
it will be Arkansas' first double execution since resuming | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
its lethal injection programme. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
As of this point right now, there are no stays in place | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
for either Marcel Williams or Jack Jones, moving forward | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
to the execution set for Monday night. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
But there are still a number of legal challenges that can develop. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
Now, attorneys for both of these inmates, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
they are appealing to the Eighth Circuit after a federal judge | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
denied a motion that claims Midazolam - it's the sedative used | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
in the legal injections - won't work on these inmates properly | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
because of their weight and also some other health issues. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
Jack was a very vivacious child. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
He was full of energy and we hung out together all the time. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
This picture right here is just how I remember him, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
with just that long hair and that smile. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
He was cute, and the girls, you know, back then, called it... | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
He was "a fox" is what they would say, so... | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -Were there any signs as a child or...? | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
There were lots of signs very early on. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
He just was never right. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
He had hallucinations, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:22 | |
he would say that he saw bugs and spiders and people, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
and he would get so agitated, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
he'd sit and rock against a wall and bang his head. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
When he'd get angry. you were very fearful of him. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
When he was good, he was good, and when he was bad, he was bad. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
There was no middle ground. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
It's very sad because he could have gotten help back then, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
but no-one did anything, and our family motto was always | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
to sweep things under the rug and not talk about it. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
So he was just forced to deal with his mental issues on his own, | 0:34:50 | 0:34:56 | |
and Jack, unfortunately, turned to anger and rage and... | 0:34:56 | 0:35:01 | |
alcohol and drugs. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
And that started his demise. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:04 | |
Gradually, over the years he just got worse and worse. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
Drinking and then the pot, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:12 | |
and then the pot led to, you know, cocaine and acid, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
and from there it just... | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
He would... | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
He was just a shell of nobody that I would even know any more. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
And so, our relationship was very strained, | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
to the point at the time of the crime, | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
him and I really weren't on much speaking terms, | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
although in my heart I've always loved him. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
And from that point on, you know, our relationship | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
after he went in prison took a 180, | 0:35:40 | 0:35:44 | |
and we're almost closer now today than we were when we were younger. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
What's your favourite part of our relationship? | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
Wow. You're absolutely right there, brother. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
I do. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:07 | |
What was life like for you at that time, when that crime was committed? | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
Right. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:22 | |
Right. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:33 | |
Are all commissioners ready? | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
All right, we're here today in the matter of Jack Harold Jones, | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
in the second clemency hearing. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
Mr Rosenzweig, I'm sure that you'll comment on the fact | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
that your client is not here today for the hearing. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
-Yes, sir, I'm prepared to comment. -OK. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
This is his stack of recent medical records. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:19 | |
Mr Jones is an amputee. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
He has a wheelchair in his cell with him. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
He has been on methadone here at the prison for a number of years. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
He also suffers from diabetes, which was of course the cause | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
of his amputation, it is difficult for him to get around. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:36 | |
Nonetheless, he did knowingly and voluntarily decline to... | 0:37:36 | 0:37:41 | |
attend this hearing. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
So, Mr Jones has said he does not want clemency to be heard. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:47 | |
-Is that correct? -Mr Jones wrote this letter. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
-Yes. -The letter is addressed to Lacey, Mr Phillips | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
and the commissioners. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:55 | |
"I am so very, very sorry. | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
"I have not wanted clemency ever. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
"There's no way... | 0:38:02 | 0:38:03 | |
"..in hell that I would spend another 20 years in this rat hole. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:10 | |
"Oh, hell no. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
"I shall not ask to be forgiven, for I haven't the right. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
"I'm so very, very sorry, Lacey, I've no excuse. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
"Believe me, you have never left my thoughts. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
"I think about you all the time. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
"It sounds stupid, I know, but I am deeply sorry. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
"In dynamic peace, Jack H Jones II." | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
And he... Mr Jones asked me to read that, | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
and I'm respecting his wishes by doing so. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
-Mr Rosenzweig, thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
At 27 years in that cell, he's done. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
There's no quality of life for him left at all. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
So, in his mind, being spared from execution Monday night... | 0:38:50 | 0:38:55 | |
..no. | 0:38:57 | 0:38:58 | |
No. He doesn't want it, he wants to die. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
He was very relieved to hear that Ledell's was only 12 minutes. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:10 | |
I think, if anything... | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
He said he's not fearful. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:18 | |
He's at peace. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
But I know, in the back of his mind, he's afraid.. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
..that it would be a painful death. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
Jack Jones murdered my mom. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:39 | |
It's always in my mind, | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
it will always be in my mind, and every time I look in the mirror | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
and I see my scars on my head, it's a daily reminder. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:51 | |
This is a scar on my forehead here. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
And then it starts right here and then goes down, | 0:39:59 | 0:40:04 | |
all the way down here. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
It makes me angry. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
And I think this execution will kind of help some of that. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:16 | |
It won't all be gone, but I think it will help some of the anger issues | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
that I have towards the whole situation, all around. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
It's been an up and down yo-yo that I've had to live my whole life, | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
and call life, waiting on this to happen... | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
..and dealing with it. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
This is the one that's Monday. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
2007, clemency hearing that we had to attend. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:45 | |
2010, another clemency hearing that we had to attend. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
2015, talking about another execution date that never happened. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:54 | |
Hopefully, one day I can be done with this box | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
and have the final paper in there saying he was executed. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
It's been very trying. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
I have to just keep my head up and think of the things | 0:41:06 | 0:41:10 | |
that make me happy, like my husband and my kids, | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
that will always be here for me. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
I'm really hopeful. I think things are different this time. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
We have a governor and, you know, | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
the Arkansas Attorney General's Office, | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
they're really fighting for us victims and the families. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
So, I really feel... I really feel... | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
..like it's going to happen. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
But you don't count your money till it's in your hands, | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
and he's not dead till he's dead. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
It's not done till it's done, and I'm ready for it to be done. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
Our world has gotten to be so cruel, so uncaring. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:02 | |
We have murders here like you wouldn't believe | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
in our communities around here. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
My morals and standards and my upbringing, you know, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
it did shape my mind that if you're guilty of something, | 0:42:21 | 0:42:25 | |
regardless of the crime, you are responsible for your actions. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
My brother, he's in prison now for 40 years, | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
and he was not raised like that. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
I don't think the upbringing has anything to do with it, really. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
-It's a personal choice. -Yeah, it is a personal choice. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
The one thing you need to know about Marcel's case, | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
as bad as it is and whatever terrible things he may have done, | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
is that he wasn't properly represented. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
And had he had attorneys that truly knew what they were doing | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
at the time, there might have been a completely different result. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
We didn't really understand what the true meaning of mitigation was. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
We thought mitigation was awards, cub scout merits, things like that. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:20 | |
We looked for things like that instead of looking | 0:43:20 | 0:43:22 | |
into the deeper meaning of Marcel's life, and what brought him | 0:43:22 | 0:43:26 | |
to the place that caused him to do the things he did. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:28 | |
Not particularly as a defence to what he did, | 0:43:28 | 0:43:30 | |
but explanations to what he did. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:32 | |
Marcel Williams had a very rough childhood and upbringing. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
He lived in extreme poverty. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 | |
He would tell me about places he'd grown up and lived | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
when he was younger, | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
and one of them was a place where I used to live when I was younger. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:52 | |
It has since been torn down because the gang activity got so high | 0:43:52 | 0:43:57 | |
and the crime rate got so high. | 0:43:57 | 0:43:59 | |
You know, he told me that was one of the nicest places | 0:44:01 | 0:44:03 | |
his family had ever lived. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:05 | |
To me, this place was like a war zone. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:07 | |
He never knew his father, and even though his mother was there, | 0:44:10 | 0:44:15 | |
she wasn't there. She was out doing her own thing | 0:44:15 | 0:44:17 | |
and he was left to fend for himself. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:20 | |
Marcel also endured a lot of very harsh, physical discipline. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:26 | |
He would be made to strip and his mother would | 0:44:26 | 0:44:31 | |
beat him up and down his body until he was bleeding. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
There was not food to eat in his house, | 0:44:37 | 0:44:40 | |
because there were often times that they just couldn't afford food. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:43 | |
So, he learned at a very young age how to steal in order to eat, | 0:44:43 | 0:44:48 | |
and obviously that just evolved into different kinds | 0:44:48 | 0:44:51 | |
of criminal activity for Marcel. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:53 | |
He went to prison, before he finished high school, for robbery. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:58 | |
So, he really is a child when he goes to prison, | 0:44:58 | 0:45:01 | |
and he gets taken advantage of. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:03 | |
He was raped by a group of men. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
And it's not something that he really talks about a lot... | 0:45:10 | 0:45:12 | |
..but it happened to him and people should know that it happened to him, | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
and it affected who he became as an adult. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:19 | |
It's difficult for me to say that it was all Marcel's fault. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:27 | |
You know, he really didn't have a chance to be a normal adult. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:32 | |
When things start occurring in your life at such a young age, | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
you can't be held responsible for that. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:38 | |
And so, he did make his own decisions. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:40 | |
But I think if he'd had a different upbringing, | 0:45:41 | 0:45:44 | |
different influences in his life, he would have made different decisions. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:48 | |
You should only be sentenced to death | 0:45:51 | 0:45:53 | |
if you're of the very highest level of culpability. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:56 | |
And in determining that, your background comes into play, | 0:45:56 | 0:46:01 | |
and this is something that juries commonly consider. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:03 | |
And so there really was an injustice in the fact that his jury | 0:46:03 | 0:46:07 | |
heard nothing about his childhood, which was, you know, really bad. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:11 | |
His trial attorneys essentially admitted his guilt, | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
to curry favour with the jury so that they could possibly get | 0:46:14 | 0:46:18 | |
a life sentence, as opposed to a death sentence. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:21 | |
But, obviously, that's not how it played out. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:23 | |
It's not an excuse for his crime, but it's relevant to his sentence | 0:46:25 | 0:46:29 | |
because the jury was entitled to hear everything about him | 0:46:29 | 0:46:33 | |
before they decided that he should lose his life. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
So, yes, I think that information is very important, | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
and the law says that it is, too. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:40 | |
We're here today in the matter of Marcel Wayne Williams who has been | 0:47:02 | 0:47:06 | |
sentenced to death and has applied for an executive clemency. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:10 | |
-That's correct. -All right, and with that, sir, you may proceed. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
Thank you, Chairman and good morning, | 0:47:13 | 0:47:15 | |
and thank you each for being here today. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
Our goal this morning is to highlight the most glaring injustice | 0:47:18 | 0:47:22 | |
that took place in the capital case of Marcel Williams, | 0:47:22 | 0:47:24 | |
that's the fact that he was sentenced to death by a jury | 0:47:24 | 0:47:27 | |
who knew absolutely nothing about him, | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
other than the facts and circumstances of his crime. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:34 | |
It was not a strategic decision, it was, in fact, a mistake, | 0:47:34 | 0:47:39 | |
and we hope to impress upon the board this morning that the story | 0:47:39 | 0:47:42 | |
of his childhood is a story that a jury should have heard. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:46 | |
But because of the way the law played out, | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
they didn't hear it and they never will. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:50 | |
And so, I'm going to ask the Board to do what the jury could not do, | 0:47:50 | 0:47:54 | |
which is to find that while he may deserve to spend | 0:47:54 | 0:47:57 | |
the rest of his life in prison | 0:47:57 | 0:47:59 | |
- and he most certainly does, and he acknowledges that - | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
he does not deserve to die. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:03 | |
Now, I can't promise he'll ever receive it, but would you say if you | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
had a chance to talk to Marcel right now? | 0:48:33 | 0:48:35 | |
HE SOBS | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
I'm sorry. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:50 | |
Marcel, I'm sorry. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:57 | |
I'm sorry that we didn't do the things | 0:49:10 | 0:49:12 | |
that we needed to do to save you. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:13 | |
Marcel, I'm sorry that, at the time that we represented you, | 0:49:17 | 0:49:21 | |
that I represented you, I didn't understand... | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
..what needed to be done. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:29 | |
Not only were you short-changed in your life, | 0:49:29 | 0:49:31 | |
you were short-changed in your defence... | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
and I'd give anything if I had another chance to protect you. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:40 | |
I mean, you did what you did, | 0:49:42 | 0:49:43 | |
but you deserved to be defended better, | 0:49:43 | 0:49:45 | |
and I'm sorry that I wasn't able to help you with that. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:48 | |
In November of 1994, Marcel abducted, | 0:50:00 | 0:50:04 | |
raped a young lady named Dena Cronin, a young law student... | 0:50:04 | 0:50:09 | |
..and took her to an abandoned house. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:13 | |
He tied her up, put her in a closet and left her there. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:17 | |
He planned to come back, | 0:50:18 | 0:50:19 | |
and we don't know what he planned to do, because she escaped. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:22 | |
22 years later, this is Dena Windall and she's here today, | 0:50:24 | 0:50:29 | |
and she's going to address the board. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:31 | |
Dena. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:32 | |
Good morning. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:39 | |
My time to speak about the injustices that were done to me... | 0:50:45 | 0:50:49 | |
..came and went. It was 23 years ago. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:53 | |
Although it brings back a lot of memories for me... | 0:50:55 | 0:50:59 | |
I've moved on. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:01 | |
Mr Williams has moved on. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:04 | |
It makes no sense to me to kill another human being wilfully. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:12 | |
I mean, if we all have not sinned in our lives... | 0:51:14 | 0:51:16 | |
..then you must be God. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
-I forgive you, Mr Williams. -MARCEL: -Thank you. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:37 | |
That's all I have to say. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:42 | |
Thank you very much, Dena, for being here. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:45 | |
Excuse me. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:00 | |
Being in this situation has forced me to look at me. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
And sometimes you don't like the person that | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
you see looking back at you. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:19 | |
So, what do you do? You can't change that. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:23 | |
And I've tried, I don't know what next to do. | 0:52:26 | 0:52:28 | |
So, I'm going to end with an apology... | 0:52:35 | 0:52:37 | |
..to you. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:40 | |
REPORTER: 6:46 is your time. The big story of the morning - | 0:53:09 | 0:53:12 | |
tonight, two men are set to be put to death. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:14 | |
Currently, no legal blocks that would stop Jack Jones' | 0:53:14 | 0:53:17 | |
or Marcel Williams' execution, | 0:53:17 | 0:53:18 | |
and if things go according to the state's plan, it will be | 0:53:18 | 0:53:21 | |
Arkansas' first double execution since | 0:53:21 | 0:53:23 | |
resuming its lethal injection programme. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:26 | |
Good morning, guys. So both Jack Jones and Marcel Williams | 0:53:26 | 0:53:28 | |
have already been transferred here to the Cummins Unit | 0:53:28 | 0:53:31 | |
ahead of tonight, | 0:53:31 | 0:53:32 | |
and at this point in time, no court orders have been issued that would | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
force the state to call off these executions. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
But there are still a number of pending legal challenges | 0:53:37 | 0:53:40 | |
that can develop throughout the day. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:43 | |
Today is my birthday. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:44 | |
I didn't believe it when I first saw it cos I just thought, | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
"How odd is that, that it would be the same day as my birthday?" | 0:53:49 | 0:53:53 | |
I almost feel like... | 0:53:58 | 0:54:00 | |
..maybe she has a part in this. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:04 | |
She knows how much I've struggled with it, you know. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
She's got to, I know she does. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
So, it's almost like a present, if you will. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:17 | |
As things stand right now, Jack Jones is scheduled to die | 0:54:20 | 0:54:22 | |
at seven o'clock tonight, Marcel Williams at 8:15, | 0:54:22 | 0:54:25 | |
depending on how some of these legal battles play out in the courts. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:29 | |
Hopefully, Marcel Williams is put to death. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
I mean, I'm sure he is scared, | 0:54:37 | 0:54:39 | |
scared that the drugs might not work on him, but, you know, like... | 0:54:39 | 0:54:43 | |
..I honestly don't care. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:46 | |
Everything is not exhausted. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:57 | |
We still have cases that are lodged in various courts | 0:54:57 | 0:55:00 | |
and we're pursuing those until the final hour. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:03 | |
So, we're still holding out hope that Marcel will be alive | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
come Tuesday morning. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:08 | |
I'm getting nervous. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:25 | |
It'll be all right. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:28 | |
I hope so. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:33 | |
We're live at the Cummins Unit near Grady, Arkansas, | 0:55:37 | 0:55:39 | |
where the death chamber is located. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:42 | |
And tonight, after spending more than 20 years on death row, | 0:55:42 | 0:55:46 | |
two men are set to be executed, and attorneys for both men | 0:55:46 | 0:55:49 | |
have filed numerous legal challenges to try and stop | 0:55:49 | 0:55:53 | |
the executions, claiming that because of their | 0:55:53 | 0:55:55 | |
medical conditions, that the lethal injection will not work properly. | 0:55:55 | 0:56:00 | |
But right now, prison officials are preparing to execute both men, | 0:56:00 | 0:56:05 | |
starting at seven o'clock. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:06 | |
Everyone's travelling the same stretch of highway right now | 0:56:09 | 0:56:13 | |
for all different reasons. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:14 | |
I'm going to be present... | 0:56:16 | 0:56:20 | |
..when the State murders my brother. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:25 | |
Lacey is travelling this same road to find closure... | 0:56:25 | 0:56:29 | |
..for losing her mother. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:32 | |
There's no bringing her mom back. | 0:56:34 | 0:56:36 | |
It's just sad, it's just really sad. | 0:56:40 | 0:56:42 | |
Right, get it done. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:56 | |
I am here today to be as close to my brother as possible. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:14 | |
This is as close to the Cummins Unit as I can get. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:18 | |
So, I promised my brother yesterday, when I walked out, | 0:57:18 | 0:57:21 | |
that I wanted him to know that I would be as close as I could, | 0:57:21 | 0:57:26 | |
and if this is as close as I can get, then he knows I'm here. | 0:57:26 | 0:57:29 | |
Good evening, everyone. | 0:57:32 | 0:57:33 | |
Last meals, beginning with Jack Jones. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:38 | |
Three pieces of fried chicken... | 0:57:38 | 0:57:40 | |
..potato logs with tartare sauce, beef jerky bites... | 0:57:42 | 0:57:46 | |
..three Butterfinger candy bars... | 0:57:48 | 0:57:50 | |
..one chocolate milkshake with Butterfinger pieces, | 0:57:52 | 0:57:55 | |
and fruit punch. | 0:57:55 | 0:57:57 | |
The last meal of Marcel Williams consisted of the following. | 0:57:58 | 0:58:01 | |
Three pieces of fried chicken, banana pudding... | 0:58:02 | 0:58:06 | |
..nachos topped with chilli cheese and jalapeno peppers... | 0:58:07 | 0:58:12 | |
..two Mountain Dews, and potato logs with ketchup. | 0:58:13 | 0:58:18 | |
The media witnesses, once again, if there is no consensus, | 0:58:19 | 0:58:22 | |
then I will select via a random draw. | 0:58:22 | 0:58:25 | |
All right, the print witness will be Jacob Rosenberg, | 0:58:27 | 0:58:31 | |
representing Arkansas Times. | 0:58:31 | 0:58:33 | |
Different things happen to different people when these drugs | 0:58:38 | 0:58:41 | |
go through them. OK, these guys are both diabetic, | 0:58:41 | 0:58:43 | |
they're both overweight, and that's just been a big concern. | 0:58:43 | 0:58:47 | |
I mean, if the Midazolam works like it's supposed to, | 0:58:47 | 0:58:49 | |
then, you know, it's just a guy falling asleep. | 0:58:49 | 0:58:52 | |
Tracey, David, Andrew. | 0:58:54 | 0:58:57 | |
-I wish you guys well. -OK. | 0:58:57 | 0:58:58 | |
The last photo was yesterday, just saying goodbye. | 0:59:05 | 0:59:08 | |
He looks good. I love his hair like that. | 0:59:12 | 0:59:14 | |
Damn. | 0:59:16 | 0:59:17 | |
"Love, what I wouldn't give if once again I had the chance to be | 0:59:21 | 0:59:25 | |
"your brother, in another time and kinder place, | 0:59:25 | 0:59:28 | |
"in another life where I knew much sooner how truly wonderful you are, | 0:59:28 | 0:59:32 | |
"and how much I'd come to love you. | 0:59:32 | 0:59:34 | |
"Love, Bro," and he kissed it. | 0:59:35 | 0:59:38 | |
Every letter I wrote him was always, "Love, Sis,"... | 0:59:40 | 0:59:42 | |
..and his is "Love, Bro." | 0:59:44 | 0:59:45 | |
And so... | 0:59:45 | 0:59:47 | |
we agreed to have tattoos to remind each other every day... | 0:59:47 | 0:59:51 | |
..how much we meant to each other. | 0:59:52 | 0:59:54 | |
We'll always have something... | 0:59:55 | 0:59:58 | |
together, side by side. | 0:59:58 | 0:59:59 | |
"Love, Bro." | 1:00:04 | 1:00:06 | |
BELL TOLLS | 1:00:48 | 1:00:50 | |
For whom the bell tolls... | 1:00:50 | 1:00:52 | |
..it tolls for thee. | 1:00:53 | 1:00:54 | |
I can't sit there and say, "I wish a person was dead," | 1:01:17 | 1:01:20 | |
so I don't say that. | 1:01:20 | 1:01:22 | |
I say, "I wish that justice would be served | 1:01:22 | 1:01:25 | |
"and he would pay for his crime," because it is... | 1:01:25 | 1:01:30 | |
It makes me feel like a bad person to sit there | 1:01:30 | 1:01:32 | |
and say that I want someone to be dead. | 1:01:32 | 1:01:34 | |
I get upset sometimes and think, "Oh, I shouldn't think that, | 1:01:42 | 1:01:45 | |
"I shouldn't want this." You know, but I do, so... | 1:01:45 | 1:01:49 | |
You know, I don't hurt people and I don't want to hurt people... | 1:01:55 | 1:01:58 | |
..and I sure don't want to... | 1:02:00 | 1:02:03 | |
..encourage someone dying, or sit there and say, | 1:02:04 | 1:02:07 | |
"I want someone dead." | 1:02:07 | 1:02:08 | |
You know? | 1:02:10 | 1:02:12 | |
But I want justice to be served, and it has to be. | 1:02:12 | 1:02:15 | |
PHONE RINGS | 1:03:05 | 1:03:07 | |
This is Solomon. | 1:03:14 | 1:03:15 | |
Just a few moments ago, Wendy Kelley, | 1:03:30 | 1:03:32 | |
Director of the Arkansas Department of Correction, read the | 1:03:32 | 1:03:35 | |
following statement in the Execution Chamber - | 1:03:35 | 1:03:38 | |
"A lethal injection was administered at 7:06pm, and the Coroner has | 1:03:38 | 1:03:42 | |
"pronounced Jack Harold Jones dead at 7:20pm, | 1:03:42 | 1:03:46 | |
"carrying out the sentence of | 1:03:46 | 1:03:48 | |
"the Circuit Court of White County, Arkansas." | 1:03:48 | 1:03:51 | |
In addition, I want to read to you the last words of Jack Jones. | 1:03:51 | 1:03:56 | |
"I just want to let Lacey know how sorry I am. | 1:03:57 | 1:04:01 | |
"I can't believe I did something to her. | 1:04:01 | 1:04:05 | |
"I hope over time you could learn who I really am, | 1:04:05 | 1:04:09 | |
"and I am not a monster. | 1:04:09 | 1:04:12 | |
"I'm so sorry, Lacey, try to understand. | 1:04:12 | 1:04:16 | |
"I love you like my child." | 1:04:16 | 1:04:18 | |
He had a bond with her, in his mind, that... | 1:04:27 | 1:04:30 | |
..she was like his and... | 1:04:32 | 1:04:34 | |
Yeah. So, I just pray tonight that... | 1:04:36 | 1:04:38 | |
..wherever she's at now and whatever she... | 1:04:40 | 1:04:42 | |
..you know, experienced up there tonight, | 1:04:44 | 1:04:46 | |
that she walked away with whatever it is that she needed. | 1:04:46 | 1:04:48 | |
Just a minute. | 1:05:16 | 1:05:18 | |
There's definitely a different mood in the air right now, | 1:05:18 | 1:05:22 | |
a little more tension and a little less tension in different ways. | 1:05:22 | 1:05:26 | |
I would like to thank the Governor and his office and everyone that | 1:05:26 | 1:05:30 | |
works with him and for him, that gave our family some justice. | 1:05:30 | 1:05:34 | |
So, I'm glad that that part of my life is... | 1:05:34 | 1:05:38 | |
..that chapter is closed. | 1:05:40 | 1:05:42 | |
Mr Jones said right before he died | 1:05:42 | 1:05:44 | |
that he thought of you as like a child to him now... | 1:05:44 | 1:05:47 | |
I don't want to talk about that. | 1:05:47 | 1:05:49 | |
And I really don't have anything else I want to say right now, | 1:05:49 | 1:05:52 | |
thank you. | 1:05:52 | 1:05:53 | |
SHE SOBS: No! | 1:06:09 | 1:06:11 | |
No! | 1:06:12 | 1:06:14 | |
Tell me it's not so! | 1:06:14 | 1:06:16 | |
Tell me it's not so! | 1:06:16 | 1:06:18 | |
Somebody's calling her and telling her that Jack's was botched. | 1:06:27 | 1:06:29 | |
-Oh, my God. -Tell me it's not so! | 1:06:29 | 1:06:31 | |
Well, Marcel Williams is scheduled to follow, | 1:06:34 | 1:06:38 | |
and his lawyers filed an emergency appeal to try to block | 1:06:38 | 1:06:41 | |
the second execution. | 1:06:41 | 1:06:43 | |
It's hard to tell, | 1:06:43 | 1:06:44 | |
it's hard to keep up with all the different legal manoeuvring. | 1:06:44 | 1:06:47 | |
What I'm reading right now is that the Governor of Arkansas spokesman | 1:06:47 | 1:06:50 | |
says that the execution went "flawlessly." | 1:06:50 | 1:06:53 | |
But witnesses say that his mouth was moving, | 1:06:53 | 1:06:55 | |
that he was gulping for air. | 1:06:55 | 1:06:57 | |
And so that raises very real possibility that this was | 1:06:59 | 1:07:03 | |
an excruciatingly painful death for him. | 1:07:03 | 1:07:05 | |
That information came from Marcel Williams' lawyers, | 1:07:22 | 1:07:25 | |
so I don't know if the Governor's spokesperson was a witness or not. | 1:07:25 | 1:07:29 | |
But I would take the word of somebody who watched it happen, | 1:07:30 | 1:07:33 | |
rather than a politician's spokesperson. | 1:07:33 | 1:07:35 | |
The procedure began at 7:06pm. | 1:07:37 | 1:07:39 | |
I tried to mark down what I saw. | 1:07:40 | 1:07:44 | |
There were no signs to me that he was struggling. | 1:07:44 | 1:07:47 | |
His lips were still moving. | 1:07:48 | 1:07:51 | |
The microphone was off, | 1:07:51 | 1:07:52 | |
so I'm not sure if he was actually saying something | 1:07:52 | 1:07:54 | |
or if it was just him moving his mouth. | 1:07:54 | 1:07:57 | |
I heard some of the legal filings say that he might have | 1:07:57 | 1:07:59 | |
been gasping for air. That wasn't what I saw. | 1:07:59 | 1:08:02 | |
I'm not a doctor, but... | 1:08:02 | 1:08:04 | |
..I don't believe those claims are accurate. | 1:08:05 | 1:08:08 | |
Tonight, Jack Jones' execution was the reason | 1:08:08 | 1:08:12 | |
that Marcel Williams appealed to a judge. | 1:08:12 | 1:08:14 | |
They wanted to temporarily halt the executions, which she | 1:08:14 | 1:08:17 | |
ultimately did, but then lifted that stay. | 1:08:17 | 1:08:20 | |
You didn't see anything to alarm you or any of the other witnesses | 1:08:20 | 1:08:24 | |
-in the room? -No, I don't think any of us were alarmed. | 1:08:24 | 1:08:27 | |
Gosh, thank you. | 1:08:27 | 1:08:29 | |
It appeared to happen fairly smoothly. | 1:08:29 | 1:08:31 | |
You know something, he saw it and I'll take that, you know. | 1:08:31 | 1:08:35 | |
I'll take it, I'll take it. | 1:08:35 | 1:08:37 | |
I'll take it. | 1:08:37 | 1:08:38 | |
The State successfully carried out the execution of Jack Jones. | 1:08:48 | 1:08:52 | |
So, at this point, the State is starting to move forward | 1:08:52 | 1:08:56 | |
with what will be the first double execution that we have seen | 1:08:56 | 1:08:59 | |
in the State since 1999. | 1:08:59 | 1:09:02 | |
It's not that I want him to suffer... | 1:09:06 | 1:09:08 | |
..or it not to work right or something. | 1:09:10 | 1:09:12 | |
That is not what I want. | 1:09:14 | 1:09:16 | |
I want him to be passed on and not be here to hurt nobody else. | 1:09:17 | 1:09:21 | |
And if he ever got out, he would. | 1:09:23 | 1:09:24 | |
I hope that the State of Arkansas | 1:09:34 | 1:09:36 | |
is embarrassed that this is going forward. | 1:09:36 | 1:09:38 | |
Because we're on this schedule, everything's rushed, | 1:09:38 | 1:09:41 | |
simply for the State's convenience. | 1:09:41 | 1:09:43 | |
You know, they threw justice out of the window, | 1:09:43 | 1:09:45 | |
because there's no way that all of the claims that these prisoners have | 1:09:45 | 1:09:49 | |
can be reasonably considered in this time frame. | 1:09:49 | 1:09:52 | |
And when you consider the fact that, you know, | 1:09:53 | 1:09:57 | |
the stake is life or death, that makes it all the more unjust. | 1:09:57 | 1:10:02 | |
A spokesman says the execution is happening right now, so... | 1:10:12 | 1:10:15 | |
What? | 1:10:16 | 1:10:18 | |
They went ahead with it, it's going on right now. | 1:10:18 | 1:10:20 | |
BELL TOLLS | 1:10:24 | 1:10:27 | |
Almighty God, to you all hearts are open, | 1:10:30 | 1:10:34 | |
all desires known, and from you no secrets are hid. | 1:10:34 | 1:10:38 | |
Cleanse the thoughts of our hearts, | 1:10:41 | 1:10:44 | |
by the inspiration of your holy spirit... | 1:10:44 | 1:10:46 | |
..that we may perfectly love you and worthily magnify your holy name. | 1:10:48 | 1:10:54 | |
Through Christ, our Lord, amen. | 1:10:54 | 1:10:57 | |
PHONE RINGS | 1:11:50 | 1:11:53 | |
It's Solomon. | 1:12:01 | 1:12:02 | |
A lethal injection was administered at 10:16pm, and the Coroner has | 1:12:09 | 1:12:13 | |
pronounced Marcel Wayne Williams dead at 10:33pm, | 1:12:13 | 1:12:18 | |
carrying out the sentence of the Circuit Court of Pulaski County. | 1:12:18 | 1:12:22 | |
I did not see anything that was distress that I would | 1:12:25 | 1:12:28 | |
attribute to the Midazolam, based on what I've read about Midazolam. | 1:12:28 | 1:12:32 | |
A true injustice occurred that a man has died with an unjust sentence, | 1:12:34 | 1:12:40 | |
that I and the attorneys I work with have tried everything | 1:12:40 | 1:12:44 | |
to correct. | 1:12:44 | 1:12:46 | |
We put all of the appropriate information in front of the court | 1:12:46 | 1:12:48 | |
so that they could correct it, and it still went uncorrected. | 1:12:48 | 1:12:52 | |
You know, for someone who went to law school and who, as an attorney, | 1:12:52 | 1:12:55 | |
I've built my life on the justice system, it's really... | 1:12:55 | 1:12:58 | |
It's made me lose confidence in how everything works, | 1:12:59 | 1:13:02 | |
and it makes you re-evaluate everything about the law. | 1:13:02 | 1:13:05 | |
He's not getting a funeral, there's nobody here to say goodbye. | 1:13:29 | 1:13:33 | |
But I couldn't bear the thought of him being cremated tomorrow | 1:13:34 | 1:13:37 | |
in his prison whites. So, I went into Walmart last night, | 1:13:37 | 1:13:40 | |
kind of in a stupor, thinking, | 1:13:40 | 1:13:42 | |
"What the heck do I buy my brother to be cremated in?" | 1:13:42 | 1:13:45 | |
Nothing made sense, and lo and behold, you look up and... | 1:13:45 | 1:13:49 | |
I found this Dr Pepper T-shirt. | 1:13:49 | 1:13:50 | |
You know? SHE LAUGHS | 1:13:52 | 1:13:54 | |
"Good for life." | 1:13:54 | 1:13:56 | |
"Good for life." | 1:13:58 | 1:13:59 | |
I see Jason McGehee as a monster. | 1:14:13 | 1:14:17 | |
I feel sorry for John's family, but this is my boy, | 1:14:19 | 1:14:23 | |
and I don't want him to die. | 1:14:23 | 1:14:26 | |
This is a bullet wound. | 1:14:27 | 1:14:28 | |
I, Kenneth Williams, am responsible for this. | 1:14:29 | 1:14:33 | |
Kenneth Williams killed my father. | 1:14:35 | 1:14:37 | |
His last wishes were to see his daughter for one last time. | 1:14:38 | 1:14:41 |