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Shots fired, I've been shot. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
Every time you see the news about a deadly tragedy, | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
it's always either considered senseless or people will never find | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
out why the killer did what he did. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
But here is everything for the reasons I did this. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
You may consider them bad reasons, but that's you. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
Not me. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:09 | |
If there's one thing that America has taught over several generations, | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
it's that you must seek revenge in the name of justice. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
And whoever hurt you will not get away with it. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
You will come back stronger, hunt them down, kill the perpetrator. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
You send the message that no-one can be allowed to do this again, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
or there will be dire consequences. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
It's the American way. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
Sunny Cape Cod - there is no greater place on earth, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
and I often refer to it as God's country. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
It's been such a draw to me, coming back to a place I grew up. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:30 | |
The lure of the ocean - it has a certain sense of freedom, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
the fresh air. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
I am a private criminal defence lawyer. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
Mr Loya is a fellow with no criminal record, he is now 33 years old. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
The crime had been planned by him. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
It had been orchestrated. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
It was carried out while he suffered a delusional episode. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:57 | |
He had a delusion at the time, which is a major mental illness. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:02 | |
And if I wasn't in it to win it, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:03 | |
I wouldn't have been here from the first place. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
He can win this trial. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:07 | |
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
Bring the audio up, OK, bring it up. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
Bill's mic, one, two, three, four. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
Police say he murdered one woman, wounded her partner, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
wounded a police officer. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:22 | |
But defence attorneys actually say he is mentally ill. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
Jurors entering, all rise please. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
You are going to receive all of the available evidence. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:34 | |
You are going to have the benefit of direct examination | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
and cross-examination. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
You are going to have the benefit of the opening statements and the | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
closing arguments. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
Something very interesting will likely happen during this trial. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
Police say that during the murders Loya was wearing a GoPro camera | 0:03:46 | 0:03:51 | |
right here. He actually recorded shooting two women. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:56 | |
That video will likely be played during the trial. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
In Barnstable, I'm Bill Shields, WBZ News. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
You know, we got called into the court room, and I was kind of surprised, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
I thought, "Oh, my God, I'm on a jury for a murder trial." | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
The evidence will show that Adrian Thomas Loya blasted his way, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:28 | |
using a shotgun, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
through the front door, discharged at least 15 rounds, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
11 of which hit and eventually killed Lisa Trubnikova. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:40 | |
Anna Trubnikova was hit at least four separate times, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
in the arm, in the chest, in the thigh, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
and at that time the police did not know if | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
there was one shooter, two shooters, three shooters. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
He began to open fire at them, and that he hit | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
police officer from Bourne, Jared MacDonald. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
This was really a revenge killing against Lisa Trubnikova. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:08 | |
Thank you, counsel. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
Adrian Loya committed this act, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
and there is an abundance of evidence that he did. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
This is not a whodunnit. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
He was in a delusion. In fact, it was a good against evil scenario. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
Trail cameras, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
265 pages - Loya Wars. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
All of these things he detailed meticulously. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
Evil or... | 0:05:35 | 0:05:36 | |
..just kind of nuts? | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
Call me Loya. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:57 | |
I am an extremely quiet guy who keeps to himself. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
I have very much been a loner my whole life. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
I have your typically geeky interests. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
Although I wouldn't consider myself anti-social, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
just not desiring a need for others in order for me to feel all right. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
Ever since I was very little, I've always had a very powerful imagination. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
I've had an incredibly immersive and detailed life of me adventuring in a | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
galaxy far, far away. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
Adrian Loya, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
whisked away from planet Earth to be trained as a Jedi | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
by Luke Skywalker himself. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
I love my dreams. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:45 | |
I live for my dreams. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:48 | |
I have been a lucid dreamer since I was a small boy. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
Guns and phasers never worked in my dreams. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
The Force, though... | 0:06:59 | 0:07:00 | |
..now, that was something to be reckoned with. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
Adrian loved Star Wars. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
Spaceships, and good versus evil, those were his things. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
And do you solemnly swear the testimony you should give | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
to the court and the jury and the issues now... | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
I've known Adrian my whole life and he's not a violent person. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
-..nothing but the truth, so help you, God? -I do. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
Sir, in a nice, loud voice, could you state your name? | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
-I'm Jacob Heller. -Did you know an Adrian Loya? | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
-Yes, I did. -Do you still know him? | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
-Yes, I do. -Do you see him in court here today? | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
-Yes, I do. -Where is he, please? | 0:07:40 | 0:07:41 | |
And how would you characterise, sir, your relationship with Mr Loya? | 0:07:45 | 0:07:50 | |
Um, friendship. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
And when did that start? | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
In high school. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
I don't think I have a happier picture of him. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
Over all the years I've known him, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
I think this is maybe the happiest I've ever seen him look. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
You know, in high school, we were both kind of loners. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
We weren't going to the popular kid parties. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
Adrian was very introverted. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
He was always a unique guy. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
He was very proud of joining the coastguard. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
He really cared about it. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:21 | |
He had only a couple of close friends, maybe only one. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
I mean, Adrian was a very black-and-white person. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
Knowing him the way I did, I always thought, like, man, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
he doesn't have the relationships he needs to be like a complete person. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
I don't really have a family like other people. I mean, sure, I have | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
a father and a mother, I didn't just arrive on Earth via a pod. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
I just don't have the usual son relationship with them. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:57 | |
Whenever my family got mad or scolded me on something, | 0:08:57 | 0:09:02 | |
I'd begin the silent treatment. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:03 | |
And, thanks to my personality, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:06 | |
I learned I could keep it up for a long time. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
I've dated four women and slept with ten others. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
I'm rather proud of this number. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:17 | |
When I did meet a girl who liked almost all of my aspects, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
I tried to cling on because, damn, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:24 | |
it was hard finding that where I didn't have | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
to sacrifice a bit of myself. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
It just took too much effort. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:31 | |
And it wasn't worth it for the emotional drain if it wasn't going | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
to be perfect and last. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
I was just better off being alone. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
So, in late 2009, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
I left the dating world, never to return. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
And so when Adrian told me, "OK, well, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
"the next place I'm going to is Alaska," I was like, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
"Why are you going to Alaska?" | 0:09:58 | 0:09:59 | |
Like, you're going to one of the most remote places on the Earth. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:04 | |
In the back of my mind, I thought he made a bad choice. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
But, at the same time, he's my friend. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
I'd just arrived at my new unit on the island of Kodiak, Alaska, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:16 | |
as an E5 information systems tech. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
The office IT guy. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:20 | |
A couple of weeks after my arrival, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
a new girl also arrived fresh out of IT school named Lisa Berlanga. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
Something about her voice... | 0:10:36 | 0:10:37 | |
..breath and touch gave me immediate good flashbacks. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:44 | |
It was the first time in many years that I hated the fact | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
that I was alone. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:52 | |
Did you ever have any conversations with Mr Loya concerning a Lisa? | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
-Yes, I did. -When did they start? | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
Um, at some point during his time in Alaska. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
He told me that he found kind of a kindred spirit and they had | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
a lot in common. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:11 | |
Me and Lisa would make quizzical faces at each other. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
It felt great having her as a friend. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:20 | |
It began to give you some concerns, didn't it? | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
Er, yes, it did. As time went on, his conversations turned to her. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
You know, he was enraptured by her. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
Lisa, I have an incredibly huge crush on you. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
I've pretty much had feelings for you ever since that day we sat on | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
the river bank and talked for the first time. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:48 | |
That was the first day... | 0:11:51 | 0:11:52 | |
..the Lisa Effect hit me. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:54 | |
The Lisa Effect is this superhuman ability I found out you have. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
Whenever I talk... | 0:12:04 | 0:12:05 | |
..work or do anything with you, I feel good. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
Like, really fucking amazingly good. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
Seriously, I have never known anyone else in my life who has been able | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
to do that to me. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:20 | |
It's a pretty cool yet dangerous power you have. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
You know, I'd say, "How's work?" And he'd be like, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
"Well, Lisa's 'this way.'" And I'd say, "OK, well, how's WORK?" | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
But, for him, work WAS Lisa. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
Don't develop feelings for this person, don't go down that road. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
You have a lot to lose. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:40 | |
She's married. Give her a break. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
These two people had a relationship and he seemed to be wanting to get | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
into that relationship more closely with both of those people. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
Like, what the fuck, Lisa? | 0:13:04 | 0:13:05 | |
You're gay and married? | 0:13:08 | 0:13:09 | |
How is that fair at all? | 0:13:12 | 0:13:13 | |
I know you don't care about me at all in any capacity. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
Fuck it if I burn for this now. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
Over and over again, he assured me, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
"This is not about love or intimacy. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
"It's not a romantic relationship." | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
And, to me, that never made sense. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
He ended up at Lisa's apartment one night. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
He told me he knew maybe he shouldn't be there. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
He just was so excited about having someone to watch TV with, | 0:13:57 | 0:14:02 | |
to just hang out with, to be around, that he went over there anyway. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:07 | |
The feeling was amazing. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
This was the first time Lisa ever got hold of me just to ask if I | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
wanted to hang out with her specifically. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
Lisa Berlanga wanted Adrian Loya with her. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
It was the happiest I've ever been in my entire life. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
Even with saying that, there was never at any point me hoping that | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
this would lead to a romantic or sexual encounter with Lisa. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
Something has to happen, and it was so huge and such a... | 0:14:36 | 0:14:42 | |
..such a part of his life that it just exploded. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
You know, ultimately, he decided to propel himself towards that outcome, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:51 | |
and I just... I couldn't understand. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
I still don't. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:56 | |
Every detail encompassing this night with Lisa was burned into my mind | 0:15:07 | 0:15:12 | |
with complete vividness. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
He told me that anyone looking at this situation | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
will see it in her favour, and they'll blame me. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:22 | |
He was very worried, very upset. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
He was concerned about potential consequences. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
It was the first day. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:32 | |
The first day when my mind started down a dark, lonely path. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
The nightmares started soon after. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
Lisa would appear in my dreams... | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
..and there was nothing I could do, | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
but I was struck with this intense fear and I had to wake up. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
I hate that my dreams have been taken away. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
It was hate that was created in me that day. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
I was filled with hate for someone... | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
..for the very first time. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:11 | |
Just pure, distilled hate and nothing else was in me because of | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
this one person, and I'll return to this person so she can look upon her | 0:16:15 | 0:16:20 | |
creation and she'll be destroyed by what she's wrought. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
I hate Lisa Berlanga. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
Under a chapter he entitles, "The Decision", | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
making the choice where I didn't want to play any more, he writes, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
"I then decided that if I was going to leave this life, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
"I would not allow Lisa to be allowed to remain. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
"I had to get revenge, I wanted revenge." | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
I left Kodiak and drove clear across the United States. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
I had a pretty good general idea of what I wanted to do, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
but I still didn't know where Lisa actually was. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
All I knew about her was she was somewhere in Cape Cod. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
The finalised plea mission goes like this. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
"Return to Bourne, Mass, to conduct a recon. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
"Make sure Lisa is at her home. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
"I will confirm Lisa is indeed there before I begin anything." | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
And you'll hear that he also took a GoPro device, | 0:17:38 | 0:17:43 | |
a camera in which he could record | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
what would happen. You're going to be able to see that. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
When I finally reached the Cape Cod area, | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
I decided for a full recon sweep for my preparations. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
MUSIC: The Imperial March by John Williams | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
I mounted a small action camera to the passenger sun visor so that it | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
could record everything as I drove around. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
It came out perfect. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:19 | |
This was all kind of a movie to him. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
Kind of a, you know, a game, a video game. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
When he did the reconnaissance drive, he had the music going, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:38 | |
the Star Wars music. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:39 | |
You know, he planned this out pretty well. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
He found out where | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
Lisa and Anna were living. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
He went to look around their house, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
in that area he set out a deer-cam out in front on a tree. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:18 | |
I started becoming a pay cheque to pay cheque type person. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
The first pay cheque would go to rent and other bills. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
And then spending money on my new addiction, the want for affection. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
I'd find a nice call girl who I can ask to see | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
when I want some attention. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:02 | |
The best analogy I can give for it is pizza. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
Sure, I can do all the stuff for pizza myself but it's a huge hassle. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
So, I'll go online and order one from Domino's. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
Now, replace pizza with ladies, and Domino's with escorts, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
and there you go. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
I work in the forensics services group which is the crime lab and I'm | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
a supervisor for the ballistics section, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
the firearms identification section. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
Could you identify that for us? | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
It's a 9mm calibre, the brand is Walther, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
it's a semi-automatic pistol. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
That was the tactical belt that was depicted in the photographs. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
This is the holster, this had the firearm, the handgun in it. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
It's a 5.56mm Smith and Wesson | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
M&P15 model, and it's a semi-automatic rifle. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:58 | |
Semi-automatic means what? | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
That when I pull the trigger, it will shoot, eject, | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
reload and it will shoot again. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
OK, so, I like guns a lot. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
I think they're pretty cool. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
They're the modern equivalent of the sword, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
not just as a death dealer but as a symbol. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
The gun can bring even the lowliest man on a par | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
with the deadliest demon. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
Just watching a movie with a cool gunfight feels awesome. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
As a good guardsman, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:31 | |
I wanted to be prepared for this final mission of mine. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
I wanted to get an AR-15 but this was after the Aurora and Sandy Hook | 0:21:35 | 0:21:40 | |
massacres, so there were none available. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
I bought a Remington 887 that look like the Halo shotgun. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
Yeah. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
That's how I choose guns. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:51 | |
"Does it look sci-fi cool?" is first and foremost. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
Please be seated. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:01 | |
Jurors have great scepticism for the insanity defence. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
They believe in many respects that it's a loophole, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
that defendants want to wiggle out of some type of criminal responsibility | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
or, in a case like this, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
it is intrinsic his mental illness as to whether or not he truly | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
intended something criminal and evil and whether he appreciated | 0:22:22 | 0:22:27 | |
the wrongfulness of his conduct. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
There are certain experts that are going to go forward, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
both psychiatrists and psychologists who are going to give their opinion | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
about his mental state. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
..the testimony you shall give to the court and the jury in the issues now pending to be the truth, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
-the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God? -I do. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
And were you retained to conduct an examination in this matter? | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
-Yes, I was. -And who were you retained by, please? | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
By your office, by you. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:51 | |
I didn't get it at the beginning. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
No history of violence. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
He's very quiet. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
But I'm still... | 0:23:11 | 0:23:12 | |
..kind of being bombarded with... | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
..too much information. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:18 | |
He needs to tell me... | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
..this happened and that happened and this happened, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
and he has a phenomenal memory. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
What am I dealing with here? | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
My opinion is that, um, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
Adrian Loya suffers from a condition in the autism spectrum which I think | 0:23:33 | 0:23:40 | |
is best categorised as high-functioning Asperger's disease, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:46 | |
and that, because of that disease, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:51 | |
that he was unable to conform his conduct to the requirements of the law, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
and namely that the actions were driven or controlled by his | 0:23:55 | 0:24:02 | |
brain disease. The autism spectrum has a spectrum, namely, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:08 | |
there are youngsters that are terribly disabled, essentially mute, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:14 | |
unable to communicate, can't socialise. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
And the spectrum includes people who can be highly functional. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:22 | |
Dr Kelly is a fellow who has between 300 and 400 cases, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:28 | |
over 40 years of experience. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
Kelly testifies for the Government. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
For him to have come to my side in this, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
I hope it plays out well for my client. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
Why was it so important, Doctor, for him to... | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
..document completely, with all the details, this operation? | 0:24:43 | 0:24:49 | |
Because it's part of his illness, OK? | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
"I'm going to write it all out for you, I'm going to do videos of it, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:59 | |
"I'm going to strap a GoPro camera to myself." | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
He was not going to allow any ambiguity. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
This was the first case of Asperger's in a homicide | 0:25:10 | 0:25:16 | |
that I've come across, and I've done... | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
When I stopped counting, it was 300 to 400. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
The Star Wars story is very attractive. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
It makes relatively complicated things simple. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:32 | |
"May the Force be with you," | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
it reminds me of almost a religious kind of thing. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
God bless you. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:39 | |
The evil people have a force, too. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
It's important to Loya that he be on the side of the good, so, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:49 | |
when he's in this character, which I have called psychotic, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:54 | |
a functional psychotic state, he is with the good guys. | 0:25:54 | 0:26:00 | |
He is doing what only he can do, | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
which is setting right a terrible wrong. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:08 | |
You determined through all of the other material you reviewed and | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
your some nine hours with him that non-work | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
at that point had become preoccupied with some type of good and evil? | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
Yeah. Well, she was evil for what she had done for him. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
He then started to incorporate the police into what I'm calling | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
a delusional system. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
America is following in the footsteps of any dystopian future story. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
The police are becoming the Stormtroopers of Star Wars | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
and the Government is all for it, just like the Empire, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
so in return, I've taken up the emblem of the Rebel Alliance | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
of Star Wars as my own personal symbol in fighting back. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
Soon, none of this will matter for me any more. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
The delusional idea is, "I am going to be the tragic, heroic figure. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:08 | |
"I am going to be like a character in Star Wars. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:14 | |
"I am going to be the hero." | 0:27:14 | 0:27:15 | |
STAR WARS MUSIC PLAYS IN CAR | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
He's driving back from his scouting expedition. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:28 | |
He starts to experience a physical reaction. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
GROANING | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
All right, I'm... | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
I'm... | 0:27:39 | 0:27:40 | |
Pull over at the side of the road. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
I'm having... | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
..a panic attack. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
It was important for him to document it, | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
so you see he's got the camera looking up at his face. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
I started hyperventilating. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
I feel paralysed. I... I... | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
I can't move. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:10 | |
He is feeling like something terrible is happening to his body. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:18 | |
"I'm going to die?" | 0:28:18 | 0:28:19 | |
I'm putting my hat... Putting my hat on. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
I believe it's the realisation on some level that he | 0:28:26 | 0:28:32 | |
really could go through with this | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
and that that is abhorrent to him on one level | 0:28:36 | 0:28:41 | |
so the notion of taking another person's life actually | 0:28:41 | 0:28:48 | |
is kind of foreign to him in his core personality. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:55 | |
And he can't do harmful things to people when he is not in, | 0:28:56 | 0:29:04 | |
in my opinion, this delusional state. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
I started thinking about it. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
This is incredibly crazy, what I've been planning to do. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
You know, it's fucking crazy that I want to... | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
..conduct a mission to go murder a girl... | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
..and then die. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
It's not exactly the healthiest thoughts. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
I thought long and hard about what I was wanting to do. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
Was it all just a grotesque fantasy that I had developed for Lisa? | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
Can I just drop it and resume life? | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
I thought about it at work and I thought about it at home all month. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
I began making bald spots on my eyebrows because I kept yanking | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
the hairs as I thought. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
He couldn't dismiss it. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
He couldn't... He was obsessed with it. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
It kept on intruding in his thoughts. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
I thought about what I wanted in life, and all that was | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
was seeing the new Star Wars film some time past December. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
I needed a hard date. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:24 | |
My birthday arrived on February 5th, so it was decided. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:30 | |
I would go out on my 31st birthday. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
Going out on my birthday would be poetic. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
And, eventually, it's really game on. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
His birthday - perfect time, "I'm going to end on my birthday." | 0:30:59 | 0:31:04 | |
All the loose ends have been taken care of. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:10 | |
He took Ex-Lax the night before the event because he didn't want | 0:31:10 | 0:31:16 | |
the people dealing with his bullet-ridden body | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
to have to deal with the fact | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
that when you're shot, you might lose control over your bowels. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
He can't just kill her | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
and get away with it, he needs to be killed. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
That is moral, that is what the Force would have you do. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
I was in an airport in Texas and I was coming home and I got a call. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
And his name popped up on my phone. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
It had been so long since he called me, I almost thought, like, | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
this has got to be a mistake. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:02 | |
He was, like, "Oh, what's going on?" | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
It was just like a normal phone call. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
Erm... | 0:32:08 | 0:32:09 | |
Or at least I thought it was a normal phone call at the time. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
He wanted me to watch this video of this website that he visits, | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
-Giant Bomb. -I've got some boxes. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
-What have you got? -I don't know what any of these are. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
He gave away a bunch of expensive stuff to this website | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
that he was a fan of. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:28 | |
Let's start with this one. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
They opened up a package full of things that he had given them. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
OK. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:35 | |
Wow. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
This is... | 0:32:38 | 0:32:39 | |
-..the Star Wars symbol. -The package had, like, Star Wars stuff, toys. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:46 | |
This is fucking cool. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
-Gray Fox. -Oh, my God. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
-Sick Star Wars hat. -Nice. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
And he gave them, I believe, a live weapon, like a .22 rifle. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:58 | |
Good Lord. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
That is... | 0:33:02 | 0:33:03 | |
-That is all metal. -I don't know if you see that, but... | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
Thank you, Adrian, you're insane. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
Why would you give this...? | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
His letter had a line in it... | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
"Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target." | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
-Uh-huh. -"Be sure of your target and what is beyond it." | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
-Mm-hm. -"Be aware of the audience around you and how easily they could | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
"freak out. Much love and beef, Adrian, | 0:33:29 | 0:33:34 | |
"aka Hyper Aqua Blast on the internet and Purple Rebel in the field of battle." | 0:33:34 | 0:33:40 | |
Did he try to tell me something and I didn't get it? | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
Like, could I have done something? | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
And I think about this constantly every day. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
Holy...! | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
It's just that feeling of responsibility, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
like, I was the last person he talked to and he still | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
went through with it. | 0:33:58 | 0:33:59 | |
When I went out back here, I could see flames coming up over my fence. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
I just started recording. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
Oh, shit. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:25 | |
I'm down on Round House Road right now. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
Fucking cars exploding. I don't know what the deal is. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
Holy shit. Right in my back yard. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
EXPLOSION | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
There's fireworks going off. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:38 | |
Something must have exploded in the back. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
As soon as I stopped my last video... | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
..I had heard a loud gunshot come right over my back. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
It sounded very close. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
I called 911 at that point. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
-POLICE RADIO: -5-22, start heading to Round House Road | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
for a reported car fire. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
22, received. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:04 | |
Myself and my detective sergeant are walking up this road. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
We find this car that's on fire, fully engulfed right here. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
-RADIO: -Be advised, it's right in the middle of the road. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
We've got a burning car and there is something else going on up the road, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
but we don't really know. It was so chaotic. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
...fire engine, 1-25, zone three. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
Road vehicle fire. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:28 | |
We got radio transmissions for... | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
..somebody shooting, we got radio transmissions for possible fireworks | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
-prior to that. -Right beside on the side of the road, | 0:35:36 | 0:35:40 | |
there was what appeared to be an IED or improvised explosive device. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:46 | |
Everybody here was thinking, "Oh, my God, what is going on?" | 0:35:46 | 0:35:51 | |
On-scene trooper found a device by the fire hydrant. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
Unknown what it is, it has wires coming out of it. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
The mystery unfolds as you live in it. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
Units on the scene, a possible suspect, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
a white male dressed in black with khakis. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
I want to do something that matters. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
I want my life to count for something. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
I never really had anything to fight for, but I do now. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
Something bad happened to me and sadly it is now that I have a reason | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
to fight. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:26 | |
The video of the actual incident was pretty intense... | 0:36:30 | 0:36:37 | |
..and sad. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
To see Lisa's face, that's something that will stay with me forever. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:48 | |
I will always see her face when I first think about this trial. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
Erm... | 0:36:53 | 0:36:54 | |
I've got to take a break. | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
I'm sorry. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
Lisa, what you did hit me very hard. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
I'm truly going to miss you, Lisa. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
I want you to believe that. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:18 | |
Court, all rise, please. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
Ma'am, raise your right hand, please. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
Stand. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:32 | |
Ma'am, do you solemnly swear the testimony that you give to the court | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
and the jury and the issues now pending between the Commonwealth | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
and the defendant at the bar shall be the truth, the whole truth | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
-and nothing but the truth, so help you God? -I do. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
Please be seated, Miss. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
Lisa kept asking, "Who are you?" | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
And "What do you want?" | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
He did take the mask off. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
-Who was it? -Erm, it was... | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
..Adrian Loya. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
He's, like... | 0:39:04 | 0:39:05 | |
"See what you've done to me, you're making me do this. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
"This is what I've become." | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
And she was asking, "What did I do?" | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
Or, "Sorry." | 0:39:16 | 0:39:17 | |
He said, "It's too late." | 0:39:20 | 0:39:21 | |
Maybe seconds afterwards, there were shots. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
I knew they weren't at me. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:27 | |
The sound also went to my left. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
At some point, there were more shots and then I finally felt... | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
..getting shot myself. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:40 | |
I figured we only have seconds to live. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
I turned to Lisa... | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
..and I said, "I love you." | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
To which she responded... | 0:39:56 | 0:39:57 | |
.."I love you, too." | 0:39:59 | 0:40:00 | |
And we were very close. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
She was facing me, kind of, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
and I just turned my head towards her and I kissed her lips | 0:40:08 | 0:40:13 | |
and I remember the lips going numb, or not numb... | 0:40:13 | 0:40:20 | |
Limp. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:21 | |
I figured she died, so I'm next. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
I heard... | 0:40:26 | 0:40:27 | |
..I think, a man saying, "911, what's your emergency?" | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
I realised that | 0:40:35 | 0:40:36 | |
at some point she must have | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
dialled 911. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
Where are you? | 0:41:06 | 0:41:07 | |
-Help! -Where are you? | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
Help! | 0:41:10 | 0:41:11 | |
Where are you? | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
We know that there is an active shooter situation going on... | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
..but we don't know where he is, | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
how many people there are or what kind of situation we are walking | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
into. Right up here, my officer was shot. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
GUNSHOTS | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
Shots fired, I've been shot. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
The shots came from the middle of the complex. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
I see his feet, I walk up to him and I can't believe what I'm seeing. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:45 | |
This is one of my friends. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
He'd been shot in the back. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
Be advised, have made contact with someone. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
Came out of the pine trees. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:55 | |
We ordered him to come towards us. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
This time, he had his hands up. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:00 | |
OK, two victims, upstairs bedroom. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
There is nobody else in the house. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
It was approximately 2.30 or so, 2.40 in the morning. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:15 | |
My phone rang, I answered it, and it was Sergeant John Stowe from the | 0:42:15 | 0:42:19 | |
Bourne Police Department. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
Then I proceeded to get dressed and respond. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
And what happened when you got to the Bourne Police Department? | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
We then proceeded down the hall to a room that we have that we sit down | 0:42:26 | 0:42:31 | |
with individuals and have conversations or do interviews. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
Did he look like that at the time? | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
-No, he did not. -What was the difference? | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
He was clean-shaven, his hair was shorter and... | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
..he appears to be a lot lighter in his weight today. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
Did you then interview Mr Loya? | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
Yes, I did. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
I'm going to conduct an interview with a Mr... | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
-Last name is? -Loya. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:03 | |
Over the years, my experiences... | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
..in interviews... | 0:43:09 | 0:43:10 | |
This one was probably one of the most bizarre ones. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
You'll plead guilty to what? | 0:43:25 | 0:43:27 | |
He was so matter of fact and... | 0:43:30 | 0:43:32 | |
..really never showed much of an emotion. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
Are you familiar with that address? Have you been there before? | 0:43:36 | 0:43:38 | |
-Yes, sir. -OK. And how many times have you been there before? | 0:43:38 | 0:43:41 | |
-Twice. -Very detailed. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 | |
It was somewhat amazing. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:46 | |
-What did you say to her? -I told her... | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
What he told me, that based upon... | 0:44:10 | 0:44:12 | |
..a past incident that he had with this young lady | 0:44:14 | 0:44:17 | |
two years prior, | 0:44:17 | 0:44:18 | |
she was by herself and she invited him over to the house and he alleges | 0:44:18 | 0:44:22 | |
that she was intoxicated when he arrived and she started to | 0:44:22 | 0:44:26 | |
"come onto him". | 0:44:26 | 0:44:27 | |
So that's... | 0:44:53 | 0:44:55 | |
That's what precipitated from September 9th, 2012 until now, | 0:44:55 | 0:44:59 | |
that's kind of been fuelling the fire? | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
"It was a rape of the mind." | 0:45:12 | 0:45:14 | |
At first I was thinking, like, "Oh, God, you know, she assaulted him, | 0:45:16 | 0:45:21 | |
"she sexually assaulted him." | 0:45:21 | 0:45:23 | |
And then you find out that it wasn't anything. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:28 | |
If anything, even if it did happen and I don't know that it really did, | 0:45:28 | 0:45:33 | |
she may have made a pass at him. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
That was it. That was all. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:38 | |
And he blew it up and turned it into something that it wasn't. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:44 | |
I'm going to turn this tape off, it's 6.19am. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
It's the first and only case of Asperger's that I've testified | 0:45:57 | 0:46:01 | |
in court about. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:02 | |
At the end of it, he was saying, "I was crazy, | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
"I don't understand now why I did it. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:09 | |
"It makes no sense." | 0:46:10 | 0:46:12 | |
He felt he didn't deserve to be alive. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
He hoped there would have been a court martial cos you can get | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
the death penalty. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:20 | |
He wanted to die. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:23 | |
Does that fairly and accurately depict what you saw of Miss Trubnikova that night? | 0:46:30 | 0:46:34 | |
-Yes. -How many gunshot wounds did you observe? | 0:46:34 | 0:46:38 | |
Erm, 11. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:40 | |
And fair to say you numbered them? | 0:46:40 | 0:46:42 | |
Yes. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:44 | |
There was a bullet wound below... | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
..the left arm. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:49 | |
This was a bullet wound that resulted in a path that went through | 0:46:50 | 0:46:56 | |
skin and soft tissue. It went into the chest cavity. | 0:46:56 | 0:47:01 | |
It went through a lung then it went | 0:47:01 | 0:47:03 | |
through the pericardium covering the heart. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
It lacerated the aorta... | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
..went through the pericardium again, | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
went through her lung and then broke her rib on the opposite side. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:17 | |
Raise your right hand, please. Do you solemnly swear the testimony | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
-that you give to the court and the jury... -What's your connection to this case? | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
The District Attorney's office asked me to evaluate the defendant in this | 0:47:36 | 0:47:40 | |
case for criminal responsibility. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
In my opinion, Mr Loya was criminally responsible for his actions. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:47 | |
Dr Kelly, another forensic clinician, gave the opinion that | 0:47:49 | 0:47:53 | |
Mr Loya was suffering from autism spectrum disorder. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:57 | |
And in my opinion, he does not suffer from autism. | 0:47:57 | 0:48:01 | |
Shyness, awkwardness is not autism. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:05 | |
Mr Loya thinks of himself as a victim and has some fantasies | 0:48:05 | 0:48:11 | |
that he is like a superhero or a Star Wars hero. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:15 | |
But one has to... As a forensic psychiatrist, | 0:48:16 | 0:48:18 | |
you don't take someone's view of what they are necessarily, | 0:48:18 | 0:48:22 | |
you also have to look at their behaviour. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
Mr Loya has a personality disorder, severe maladaptive personality. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:32 | |
He tends to be rejection-sensitive, closed, | 0:48:32 | 0:48:36 | |
anticipates shame and humiliation. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:39 | |
He is sad a lot of the time and then he has kind of a smouldering anger | 0:48:39 | 0:48:45 | |
-that bursts out. -Did the disorders make him unable to appreciate the | 0:48:45 | 0:48:50 | |
criminality or wrongfulness of his actions? | 0:48:50 | 0:48:52 | |
No, in my opinion, | 0:48:52 | 0:48:53 | |
they were irrelevant to his ability to appreciate criminality | 0:48:53 | 0:48:57 | |
or wrongfulness. | 0:48:57 | 0:48:58 | |
He meticulously planned this crime. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:03 | |
And he did that with a clear mind. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:12 | |
There was weighing going on before. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:16 | |
RECORDING: I started thinking about it, about, you know, | 0:49:16 | 0:49:19 | |
it's incredibly crazy what I'm planning to do. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:23 | |
And that indicates that you can control yourself, | 0:49:23 | 0:49:27 | |
you're just choosing not to. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:28 | |
It's fucking crazy that I want to... | 0:49:28 | 0:49:30 | |
..conduct a mission to go and murder a girl. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
And in this case, there was a mountain of evidence that he knew | 0:49:34 | 0:49:36 | |
what he was doing was wrong. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:38 | |
It's not exactly the healthiest thoughts. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:42 | |
Did you interview Mr Loya? | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
Erm, no. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:45 | |
You had five months to seek him out, sit with him, talk to him, right? | 0:49:45 | 0:49:50 | |
And you didn't avail yourself of that? | 0:49:50 | 0:49:52 | |
Her biggest weakness, and it shows on its face, | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
is her not interviewing my client. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:05 | |
That cuts at the very core of what she does. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
She had to evaluate pursuant to other people's work. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:11 | |
I think that totally undercut her. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:13 | |
Liam, what this jury is going to have to decide in the coming days | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
is whether or not Adrian Loya knew right from wrong. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:23 | |
His actions were under the control of a functionally paranoid, | 0:50:29 | 0:50:33 | |
delusional system and he was incapable of a force of personal will | 0:50:33 | 0:50:38 | |
to stop the system and the ultimate homicide. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:41 | |
Mental illness alone | 0:50:42 | 0:50:44 | |
is not an excuse to murder the woman you could never have. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:51 | |
The lawyers had done their closing arguments. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
I just happened to look over at Loya and he looked right at me... | 0:50:54 | 0:51:01 | |
..and started to mouth something. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
And that really frightened me. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
What did he say? | 0:51:10 | 0:51:11 | |
Guilty. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:14 | |
"Guilty". | 0:51:17 | 0:51:19 | |
He looked at them and said certain things that caused me | 0:51:19 | 0:51:24 | |
terrific anguish. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:25 | |
It was astonishing to me. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:29 | |
After I had been fighting now for him for over 30 months... | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
..he said, "Guilty." | 0:51:36 | 0:51:38 | |
Mr Loya. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:40 | |
If there is any repeat conduct on your part like what I have observed, | 0:51:41 | 0:51:49 | |
I will consider removing you from the trial process and having you | 0:51:49 | 0:51:56 | |
confined in the lock-up watching further proceedings by video link. | 0:51:56 | 0:52:01 | |
Do you understand me, Mr Loya? | 0:52:01 | 0:52:04 | |
Yes, your honour. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:06 | |
After a hard-fought trial, the jury was just going out. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
For him to do it at that critical stage was so frustrating. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:17 | |
Jurors, your exhibits and verdict slips will be along shortly. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:25 | |
The text of the charge will follow as soon as the stenographer | 0:52:25 | 0:52:30 | |
can produce it and it can be proofread. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:32 | |
All rise for the jury, please. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:35 | |
We really weren't sure exactly how everybody felt | 0:52:44 | 0:52:49 | |
to be able to say guilty or not guilty. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
In modern life, in my generation, | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
we used the phrase "you're crazy" or "he's crazy" or "they're crazy", | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
and this phrase has lost all meaning to people of my generation because | 0:53:01 | 0:53:06 | |
everyone says it about everything, but when you really think about it, | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
when you're... | 0:53:09 | 0:53:11 | |
making very irrational choices over and over and over again and you | 0:53:11 | 0:53:16 | |
can't see beyond those choices... | 0:53:16 | 0:53:17 | |
..what is that if not insanity? | 0:53:18 | 0:53:20 | |
I was surprised at myself. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:25 | |
I knew that I could be impartial, | 0:53:25 | 0:53:28 | |
but I didn't realise how impartial I could be. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:31 | |
I really didn't have anything in my head, you know, thinking, | 0:53:31 | 0:53:35 | |
"Oh, he's got to be guilty." I didn't feel that way at all. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:39 | |
I quite frankly... | 0:53:52 | 0:53:54 | |
Walking on eggshells. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:55 | |
Whether it's ten minutes or ten, 11, 12 hours, | 0:53:57 | 0:54:01 | |
your head is somewhat spinning, you don't know what to make of it. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:04 | |
What say you, Madam Forelady? | 0:54:11 | 0:54:14 | |
The defendant Adrian T Loya is charged with murder. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:19 | |
Is he not guilty, not guilty lack of criminal responsibility, | 0:54:19 | 0:54:24 | |
guilty first-degree murder, guilty second-degree murder, | 0:54:24 | 0:54:28 | |
or guilty manslaughter? | 0:54:28 | 0:54:29 | |
Guilty first-degree murder. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:33 | |
He knew what he was doing. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:03 | |
I do think he thought he was going to get away with it. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:08 | |
I think he thought he was going to go to the police station, tell them, | 0:55:08 | 0:55:13 | |
"Yes, I killed her, yes, I planned it, but here's why. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
"So, you know, it's OK." | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
That would be a pretty crazy thing to think. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
Yes. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:30 | |
He's crazy a little. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:32 | |
He wasn't crazy enough to be... | 0:55:32 | 0:55:34 | |
..not guilty. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:36 | |
It's strange, looking at the same set of facts and coming to a very | 0:55:39 | 0:55:44 | |
different conclusion than you've ever come to. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:47 | |
He is a person with nobody. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:53 | |
What kind of person is that? | 0:55:57 | 0:55:58 | |
When you have nobody, do you even exist? I mean... | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
I don't know. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:05 | |
He lived maybe a lonelier life than I... | 0:56:06 | 0:56:09 | |
..had ever thought. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
And that I should have... Me personally, | 0:56:15 | 0:56:17 | |
I probably should have been in better contact with him. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:20 | |
My life with Lisa was beginning to flourish since we left Alaska, | 0:56:38 | 0:56:42 | |
where our initial troubles with Adrian Loya began. | 0:56:42 | 0:56:46 | |
We were happier than we had ever been and loving every aspect | 0:56:48 | 0:56:52 | |
of our life together. | 0:56:52 | 0:56:53 | |
On February 5th 2015, I lost everything I had, | 0:56:55 | 0:57:00 | |
loved, and everything I believed in. | 0:57:00 | 0:57:02 | |
It was the most devastating day of my life. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:06 | |
Yes, we begged and pleaded to be spared, | 0:57:14 | 0:57:17 | |
for the nightmare to be just that. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:19 | |
But I also know that once I was shot all those times... | 0:57:21 | 0:57:25 | |
..my body felt numb, at an eerie peace. | 0:57:26 | 0:57:29 | |
It felt warm and all the pain and suffering ceased. | 0:57:31 | 0:57:34 | |
Lisa got to hear that she is loved and she felt my lips on hers | 0:57:36 | 0:57:40 | |
before she took her last breath. | 0:57:40 | 0:57:42 | |
She wasn't alone. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:44 | |
She was loved. | 0:57:44 | 0:57:46 | |
She felt love. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:47 | |
If there's one thing that America has taught over several generations, | 0:57:58 | 0:58:02 | |
it's that you must seek revenge in the name of justice. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
And whoever hurt you will not get away with it. | 0:58:07 | 0:58:10 | |
You'll come back stronger, hunt them down and kill the perpetrator. | 0:58:12 | 0:58:16 | |
You send a message that no-one can be allowed to do this again | 0:58:19 | 0:58:22 | |
or there will be dire consequences. | 0:58:22 | 0:58:24 | |
It's the American way. | 0:58:28 | 0:58:29 | |
In the end, though... | 0:58:44 | 0:58:45 | |
..when all is said and done, nothing will have changed. | 0:58:46 | 0:58:50 | |
I'll be known as a villain and I'll be dead. | 0:58:50 | 0:58:52 | |
I'll just be labelled as another crazy with a gun | 0:58:54 | 0:58:57 | |
and the rest of America will just sit back in their couch. | 0:58:57 | 0:59:00 | |
Your honour, I'll ask for no mercy for Adrian Loya. | 0:59:09 | 0:59:13 | |
He is a threat to our society and I truly believe that he is capable | 0:59:16 | 0:59:20 | |
of doing this again. | 0:59:20 | 0:59:22 | |
He will hurt others the way he has hurt Lisa and me and in no way | 0:59:26 | 0:59:31 | |
should he ever be granted the opportunity to be a free man. | 0:59:31 | 0:59:34 |