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-REPORTER: -Kent Police have begun a murder enquiry after | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
the terrible deaths of Lin Russell | 0:00:13 | 0:00:14 | |
and her six-year-old daughter, Megan. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
They died near Canterbury, from head injuries. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
A second daughter, nine-year-old Josephine, | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
is alive but seriously injured in hospital. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
-REPORTER: -Their bodies were found huddled together | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
on this isolated track just half a mile from their home in Nonington. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
The family were beaten with a blunt metal instrument, like a hammer. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
-REPORTER: -This tranquil corner of Kent, | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
now the scene of a double murder. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
Killings which have shocked this quiet, close-knit community. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
In the summer of 1996, | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
a young family were brutally attacked | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
down a quiet country lane in Kent. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
-REPORTER: -One of the most tragic events of the summer. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
A case unprecedented in British criminal history. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
The hunt for the killer became one of the biggest stories | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
of the decade. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:14 | |
The tragedy happened on a footpath coming home from school | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
in one of the most rural and scenic parts of Kent. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
-REPORTER: -Since the investigation began, more than 9,000 people | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
have been interviewed and 1,000 witness statements taken. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
-REPORTER: -Here, the best lead so far. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
This could be the image of the murderer. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
A year later, Michael Stone was arrested. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
He was tried, convicted and sentenced to life in prison. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:49 | |
-REPORTER: -Michael Stone, heroin addict, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
a man with a violent personality disorder, a criminal record, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:56 | |
now a convicted killer. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
The judge told him, "There can't be anyone in this country who does not | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
"understand the horror of these offences." | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
At that point, Stone shouted out, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
"It wasn't me, Your Honour. I didn't do it." | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
Despite that verdict, the case is still in the headlines, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:20 | |
and doubts continue to be raised about Michael Stone's guilt. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
Michael Stone's conviction hung on a very delicate thread. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:29 | |
I think that there's a considerable | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
question mark about whether this | 0:02:31 | 0:02:32 | |
kind of evidence | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
can safely be used at all. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:35 | |
And for the last 20 years, Stone himself has stuck to the same story. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:42 | |
-MICHAEL STONE: -I never murdered them people and I had nothing | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
to do with it. I don't know who done it. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
I had no involvement whatsoever, and that's why I'm innocent. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
But is Stone a liar and a killer, or could the wrong man be in prison? | 0:02:53 | 0:02:58 | |
Now, to try and answer that question, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
a panel of independent experts with decades of experience | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
in criminal justice has agreed to re-examine the original case files. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:17 | |
I think you're missing that they have completely changed | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
their account of what they're saying they've got! | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
Lawyers... | 0:03:24 | 0:03:25 | |
This one lace could contain the key to who killed this family. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
..detectives... | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
This has left a lot of unanswered questions. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
..a forensic scientist... | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
The DNA can't be Michael Stone. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:36 | |
..all digging deep into one of Britain's most notorious crimes... | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
To me, it puts him as prime suspect. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
..to see if justice has been done. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
If it's not Michael Stone, then who is it, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
and where's that individual been for the last 20 years? | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
'In these files, we've got an extraordinary range of material. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
'It's a story of an investigation. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
'It's a story of a conviction.' | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
You're cracking open a time capsule going back 20 years. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
In 18 archive boxes lie thousands of documents, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:53 | |
a paper trail left behind by those involved in an infamous crime, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:58 | |
investigation and controversial conviction. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:03 | |
It's both daunting and exciting. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:04 | |
In there are nuggets which are going to give you answers. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
I've never known a case not to produce surprises. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
A panel of leading experts is gathering | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
to examine paperwork that's lain untouched for years. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:21 | |
We're coming in with a such a neutral perspective | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
that I'm looking to see whether the evidence is going to push me | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
in one direction or the other. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
I come to it thinking, "This guy's been convicted." | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
And so, one has to have some... | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
faith that the jury came to the right view. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
Together, they'll painstakingly reconstruct the events, | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
examine the evidence and seek answers to any questions | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
that remain. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:50 | |
'You're looking at a case from 1996 with 2016 eyes,' | 0:05:52 | 0:05:57 | |
as if anything may have slipped through the cracks. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
I'm going to talk you through what happened on that day, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
9th of July, 1996. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
You've got a map in front of you. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
I've got a large one up there on the board, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
and we've also got up there some crime-scene photographs. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
Former Detective Chief Superintendent Jane Antrobus | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
spent 30 years investigating serious crime for | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
Greater Manchester Police. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
She begins any case review by focusing on the known facts | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
of the crime. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:38 | |
In the initial stages of an investigation, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
a senior investigating officer will put together what they call a | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
timeline. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:46 | |
Where's that victim been? | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
How many witnesses have they been past? | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
What forensic has been gathered? | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
So the timeline is a visual aid to understanding the crime. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:59 | |
So, we've got here the school where Lin and her daughters | 0:06:59 | 0:07:04 | |
and the dog started off from. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:05 | |
The children have been to a swimming gala | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
and at 3:55, they start their walk home. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
So they come along here and they turn up in the direction, left, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
towards Chillenden. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
Their route home is along Cherry Garden Lane. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
Now, I've put that significant dot, because that is where their journey | 0:07:28 | 0:07:35 | |
ended that particular day. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:36 | |
By 8:30, Shaun Russell... | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
..father of the girls and husband of Lin, was starting to panic. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
Shaun reports his wife and the children missing. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
It's at quarter to one... | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
..the following morning... | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
..that the bodies are recovered. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
Initially, thought to be three bodies. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
Lin, Josie and Megan. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
When they then get out the medical practitioner | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
to certify life extinct, like you do at any murder scene... | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
..he finds Josie's not dead. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
She's still alive, but only barely alive. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
She's then rushed to hospital. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
All the victims have suffered significant blunt force trauma | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
to their heads. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
And how Josie has survived is beyond belief. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
It really is. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
So a murder investigation is launched. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
The scene's preserved and the forensic science team | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
are called in to examine that scene. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
I was travelling on the M25 | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
when I received a phone call from | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
the Principal Scenes of Crime Officer to say | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
that they had found two bodies... | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
and there was another person seriously injured... | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
..and that they might need some coordination or advice about... | 0:09:15 | 0:09:21 | |
the scientific potential of the scene. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
So I pulled off the motorway and headed back towards Kent. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:30 | |
In 1996, Professor Jim Fraser was head of | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
Forensic Investigation for Kent Police, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
and one of the first people on the scene. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
I was met by my Principal Scenes of Crime Officer, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
who basically took me to the scene and started to kind of | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
walk me through it. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:51 | |
At that stage, it still hadn't been fully examined yet. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
The bodies were still there. | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
People were still forming their first impressions | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
about what might have happened. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
The bulk of the... | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
assault had taken place in a small, kind of enclosed copse. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:12 | |
And all the bodies were found inside that area, including the dog. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
The main conclusion that I reached related not so much to the area | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
where the bodies were found, but to the track adjacent | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
to the copse where the bodies were found. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
And there were four groups of bloodstains on the track. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
That enabled me to conclude that the attack probably started on the track | 0:10:38 | 0:10:45 | |
and then moved into the copse, where... | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
Essentially, where the victims were murdered. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
Outdoor scenes are not that common | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
and they present kind of different problems. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
Most people are murdered indoors, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
or in kind of enclosed spaces, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
so there is an immediate scene where the bodies were found | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
and there is a wider scene. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
Do you search the lay-bys that are along the road from the scene? | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
Do you search some 500 metres? | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
A mile? | 0:11:18 | 0:11:19 | |
It's difficult to know where an outdoor scene like this | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
begins and ends. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
As the forensic team searched for scientific clues, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
detectives began a nationwide search for witnesses. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
My appeal tonight is anybody who's got the slightest idea at all, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
please, please come forward. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
Pick the phone up tonight and call us. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
Dave, thank you very much. Well, we all here can only echo that. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
Please call, if you can help. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
If you have any information. O500 600 600. It's a free call... | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
Within the case files, the panel find the witness statements | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
of the first people to come forward. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
It is quite a remote area. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
People stand out, so witnesses will come forward. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
You're looking to seek commonalities within those statements. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
In cases like this, it's those small pieces of information | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
that all come together to make the full jigsaw. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
Witness one, called Nicola Burchill. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
Nicola was here at the junction. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
It was 4:43. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
-REPORTER: -A woman came across a beige car pulling away | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
from a junction that led to the murder scene. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
So she sees a beige car. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
So Nicola was in her car. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
That's when she said, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:51 | |
"Saw a car at the junction and it pulled off in front of me, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
"forcing me to come down a few gears. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
"I could tell he was angry. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
"He kept looking at me through his wing mirror." | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
Now, this is key, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
because Nicola Burchill is the lady that later did an E-fit of the man | 0:13:05 | 0:13:12 | |
she saw in the wing mirror. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:13 | |
That's the E-fit. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
White male, very short, gingery hair, stocky, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:22 | |
wearing a red T-shirt. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
I'm going to move on now to the next witness. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
She's driving past the windmill. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
About half a mile away, there's a local landmark outside | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
Chillenden village. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:35 | |
The woman was driving out of the village on Cave Lane, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
and approaching the windmill, when she saw a man standing by | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
the road. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
She's driving. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:43 | |
She doesn't see a vehicle. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
But what she does see... | 0:13:46 | 0:13:47 | |
..is a man acting strangely. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
She says, "He's very agitated." | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
Plus, the fact she said he's holding an implement in his right hand, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
and she actually says, "It's a claw hammer." | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
The next key witness. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
Now, he says it's ten past five. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
He sees a car and he says, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
"I thought it was an old Escort in beige." | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
So a common theme coming here. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
Beige car, possibly an Escort. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
Half an hour later, he takes his dog for a walk | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
and he goes to where he saw that agitated man. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
Dog pulled in towards the hedge | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
and I noticed a bag had been stuffed in the bushes. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
He actually then saw it was a string bag. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
And it had strips of blue towel inside it, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
and the victims' blood were on the strips of towel. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
That is significant, because it is used to tie the victims up, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:55 | |
put there by the suspicious, agitated man. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
The killer. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
-The killer. -Yeah. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:03 | |
They had quite clear elimination criteria. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
Evidence implicating a white man, I think in about his 30s, in a beige, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:14 | |
Ford Escort-type car. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:15 | |
So anybody who didn't fit that description, you could eliminate. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
Back at the crime scene, Jim Fraser and the forensic team | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
were still searching for evidence. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:26 | |
In the copse where the bodies were found, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
there were three items that kind of stood out. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
The first one was, there was a fingerprint that appeared | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
to be in blood on one of the lunchboxes. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
The second one was that we found some hairs | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
that looked as if they didn't come from any of the people | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
at the scene. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
And then outside that area, on the track, found a little time later, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:57 | |
was a black bootlace. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
The lace was considered to be so important because | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
it was bloodstained from two of the victims. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
It was obviously used in the attacks in some way. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
Those items were tested, but offered no immediate link to an offender. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:17 | |
And with no suspect, the Chillenden murders | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
became Britain's biggest story. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
I got a... | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
call from a mate of mine at the Daily Star... | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
..who said there'd been an incident in a place called Chillenden. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
"Where's that?" So I looked at the map and he said, | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
"Get your arse down there." | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
So we got our arses down there. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
You had The Express, The Sun, Star, Mirror. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
The whole lot all descended on the middle of nowhere. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
We obviously knew that this was going to be a big... | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
It would be page-one news in every paper. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
You know, it dominated your life for weeks. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
It was dramatic from the get-go and it didn't let up. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
Despite the media frenzy, after several weeks, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
Kent Police were no closer to solving the case. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
-REPORTER: -Since the investigation began, more than 9,000 people | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
have been interviewed and 1,000 witness statements taken. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
-REPORTER: -With the killer still on the loose, there's an uneasiness | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
in this quiet Kent village. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
The police were obviously under a lot of pressure. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
I know that, because myself and my colleagues were the ones | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
putting them under pressure. We were the ones that wanted answers, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
and we were the ones asking them. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
Because they are a fairly ordinary middle-class family, | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
it just means that everybody could see themselves in the Russells, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
and the question you would ask yourself is, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
"What if it was my family? What would I have done? | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
"What would I want to happen now?" | 0:18:06 | 0:18:07 | |
And everybody wanted to see somebody go to prison for it. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
Four weeks after the attacks, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
nine-year-old Josie Russell was finally able to leave hospital... | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
..and, over time, told police what she could recall. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
Her mother was hit by this man, | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
and told Josie to run for help. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
Josie did run for help, but she didn't get very far, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
cos the man caught her up, and hit her with the hammer as well. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
She identified a hammer as the weapon, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
and she said that her hands were tied with a shoelace. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
And she describes the man... | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
..as "rooting through the lunchboxes." | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
She mentions that the man asks for money. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
A suggestion that robbery was the motive | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
connected to a separate lead the police were following - | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
the burglary and theft of a lawnmower near to the crime scene | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
on the same day. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
But it still didn't connect them to a suspect. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
To understand what was going on behind the scenes | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
of the investigation, the panel turn to the logbook | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
of the operation, known as the Policy File. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
It's the daily record of every decision made, and the reasons why. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
For the Chillenden murders, it covers months of enquiries, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
and runs to over eight books, and hundreds of pages. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
Well, the months after the investigation, obviously, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
it's going 100 miles an hour. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:56 | |
I've looked at the Policy File, I've looked at the case papers, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
they are following all those leads and potential leads. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
Speaking to MO suspects - you know, paedophiles... | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
..cars are being looked at. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:14 | |
The beige car is being looked for, for months. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
The SIO is still under the spotlight. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
"Why haven't you cracked this case?" | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
But ultimately, they're not producing any new leads. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
They're not getting anything. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:33 | |
A full year after the deaths, the police were forced, once again, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
to turn to the public. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
A year ago today an unprecedented crime took place | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
which astonished and sickened the whole nation. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
Dave Stevens, a year has passed, you still haven't found the murderer. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
How have the public helped you in that year? | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
The public, really, have helped enormously. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
Their support has been overwhelming. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
We've pieced together a story which hasn't led to the killer. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
We still haven't received that vital piece of information | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
that's led to an arrest. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
-REPORTER: -A renewed appeal on the BBC's Crimewatch programme last week | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
-resulted in 600 calls to the police. -PHONES RING | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
Amongst hundreds of calls, one stood out - | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
from a psychiatrist who said his nursing staff had named a patient | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
as a potential suspect. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
The patient's name... | 0:21:41 | 0:21:42 | |
..Michael Stone. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:45 | |
Stone lived 40 miles from the scene of the attacks, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
in the Medway area of Kent. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
He was arrested at his mother's house on the 17th of July 1997. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:09 | |
There he is, in the middle. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:19 | |
Early in the morning, they knocked the door, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
and said they were arresting him | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
for the murder of the Russells. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
And then they come back... | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
..the next day, and searched my flat. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
Took all the washing off the line, which belonged to Michael. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
And then the next minute, you'd get the paper people. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
I couldn't go out of this door for months. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
They even... | 0:22:54 | 0:22:55 | |
I know it's naughty, but they kept shouting through the letterbox, | 0:22:56 | 0:23:01 | |
and I emptied the kettle on them, you know... | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
..to shut them up. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
Good job the water was cold. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:08 | |
I remember the day when they | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
came to the door, the police. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
But me, I was not only in a state of shock, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
but felt I ought to listen to them. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
And they were saying to me, things like, "He looks like the Photofit." | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
We actually went out into the road, myself, with a police officer, | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
and we were holding this Photofit up in the street | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
with a picture of Mick, and he was pointing out the features | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
on the Photofit that he felt were looking like Mick. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
And I'm going... | 0:23:39 | 0:23:40 | |
And even then, I kind of thought to myself, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
"Oh, perhaps somebody just did a poor drawing, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
"or a poor description or something." | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
This was a horrible crime. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
And if my brother had done this, you know, I would agree, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
he would have had to have been prosecuted, and convicted for it. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
But I gave them a chance to show me, | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
cos they were so keen to show me that he did it. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
But they never could quite manage it. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
I just, you know, couldn't believe it. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
Stunned, really. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:09 | |
How can you be left feeling? | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
You know what I mean? | 0:24:15 | 0:24:16 | |
I can't say heartbroken, because Mick is Mick, isn't he? | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
No, he's done some things he shouldn't have done. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
Police now had a suspect in custody. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
But was he capable of committing the Chillenden murders? | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
To help answer that, the panel's legal team put Michael Stone's | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
criminal history under the microscope. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
It's led by Stephen Kamlish - | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
a QC with 35 years' experience | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
working on the country's most serious crimes. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
Including acting for Stephen Lawrence's family. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
He's supported by junior counsel Sheryl Nwosu. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
Their examination of Stone's history reveals he was a | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
long-term heroin user with multiple convictions for burglary. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
And a regular thief of items, such as lawnmowers. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
People's previous convictions show basic propensity to commit a crime. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
In a case like this, a person with previous convictions - | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
and he was a drug addict - | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
you're not judging them by your own standards, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
they don't live the same sort of life as the jury lives. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
You've got to be careful that they aren't stereotyped into being guilty | 0:25:47 | 0:25:52 | |
because they're criminals. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:53 | |
But Stone's record also reveals a more violent side. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
This is someone who's got a background with extreme violence, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
apart from the fact that he's... | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
..a burglar - a shed burglar, really, low-level shed burglary | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
for the most part, he has also got some significant convictions. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
There was an armed robbery of a bank and a theatre, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
where he used a shotgun. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:22 | |
So this was someone who was clearly violent, potentially very dangerous. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:29 | |
There was a previous conviction for a stabbing in 1983. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
Attacked a man he'd known from childhood, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
stabbing him in the chest when he was sleeping. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
-Whilst he was sleeping? -Whilst he was sleeping. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
He had a previous conviction for a hammer attack, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
for which he received a two-year sentence. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
Who was the hammer attack of? | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
Stone went to a man's house, he got into an argument, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
which turned into a fight. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
And it appears that he wasn't armed, but in the man's house, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
there was a mallet on a workbench which Stone picked up, swung it, | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
hit the man, and then ran away. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
From a police point of view, you know, this is going | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
to be significant. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:07 | |
You're asking us to compare this to what the man's alleged to have done. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
He's not adverse to committing acts of violence, right? | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
So he's prepared to get money, to be violent, to get his own back, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
to be violent, that's what his record shows. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
But it doesn't show that he is a man who lies in wait for women | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
and children to kill them. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
Questions raised by the panel during their investigation | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
are put to Stone in prison. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
'Yeah, I was violent then, but this is a different type of violence. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
'I've got no form for violence against women or children. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
'Yeah, I've done robberies and stuff, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
'but whenever I've done robberies | 0:27:46 | 0:27:47 | |
'I've not hurt anybody, unnecessarily. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
'I'm a thief. When I commit crime, I nick things. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
'I go into the house when no-one's there. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
'I nick a car when no-one's in the car. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
'I don't touch the people. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
'The nature of the crime, and the victims in this case, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
'it's not the kind of crime that I'd do.' | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
There's violence, and then there's this. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
But the idea that he couldn't do this crime because he hadn't done it | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
before is a nonsense, because there's a first time for everything. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
It puts him in that percentage of the population | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
of people who could have done it. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
-But it doesn't mean he did it. -And who've got pre-cons for violence. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
-Yeah. -Sure. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:26 | |
-REPORTER: -Detectives investigating the murders of Lin and Megan Russell | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
have questioned a man in connection with their deaths. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
13 months after the attacks, Stone was being held | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
at Chatham police station, where officers were interviewing him. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
Within the case files are the transcripts of more than 22 hours | 0:28:49 | 0:28:54 | |
of interviews. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:55 | |
There are three types of police interview. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
One is where people are advised to make no comment. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
That doesn't mean they're guilty, | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
but the advice comes from the solicitor. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
The second type of interview is where a person makes some comment, | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
and then refuses to answer certain questions. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
And the third one is one where the person essentially says, | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
"You can ask me anything, and I'll answer anything." | 0:29:20 | 0:29:25 | |
And this was what happened here. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
Stone was saying that he was innocent throughout, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
and he basically said to the investigators, | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
"Do everything you want, you'll find it's not me." | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
He has no trouble explaining himself. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
He's really clear on answering all the questions. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
I think it's significant, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
the fact that throughout these hours and hours of interviews, | 0:29:48 | 0:29:53 | |
Michael Stone's actually spoke and answered questions, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
rather than done the conventional... | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
..no comment. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:02 | |
A solicitor would be expected to advise that in this case, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
cos there's so much detail. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:06 | |
-Yeah. -And who knows who might put their foot in it? | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
-It's just a standard advice a solicitor would give. -Yeah. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
25 hours, answering every question. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
'The reason why I answered the questions - cos normally I | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
'would have done no comment in the police station, | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
'I've always done no comment. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:24 | |
'But because it was a little girl that got murdered, | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
'and the murderer was out there loose, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
'I spoke with the police to help them eliminate me, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
'so they could go and catch the real murderer. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
'Do you know what I mean? That's the only reason why | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
'I answered all those questions.' | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
In interview, the police challenged Stone to provide an alibi | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
for the day of the murders. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
It was a year after. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
And I couldn't give an alibi. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
I had no reason to remember 4:30 on the 9th of July. | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
Former senior detective Jane Antrobus tries to piece together | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
Stone's movements that day. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
She finds a receipt, pinpointing him to a location. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
On the 9th of July, the day of the murders, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
he was in a shop in Chatham high street. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
At 12:20, a Cash Converters. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
So, at 12:20, he was in Cash Converters... | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
..40 mile away from the murder scene. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
That would give him ample opportunity to get | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
to the scene of the murder. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
Although we can't physically put Michael Stone at the scene, | 0:31:43 | 0:31:48 | |
we can't alibi him out of it. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:49 | |
So he could have been there. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:53 | |
With Stone unable to rule himself out, | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
police are examining his links to the evidence. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
In particular, the beige car spotted by multiple witnesses. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
There's a lot goes on, especially in the interviews of Michael Stone. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
About what cars he owned and had access to | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
during that relevant period. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
Before the murder, he wasn't driving a beige car. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
-I believe he was driving... -White Toyota Tercel. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
A policeman gives a statement, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
that four days before the murder he sees Stone in a pub, | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
and that Stone's driven there in this white Toyota Tercel. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:39 | |
And on the 16th of July, which is after the murder, | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
he's stopped again, a few days after by a different police officer | 0:32:43 | 0:32:48 | |
and he's actually driving it. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
So two separate days, each side of the murder, he's in that Tercel. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:56 | |
They spent a lot of time trying to tidy Stone down to a beige car. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
But the Toyota Tercel is constantly being confirmed as Stone's. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:06 | |
That's a definite. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
That's the only definite at the time. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
-MICHAEL STONE: -'At that time I only had one car. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
'Nobody's in any doubt that that car was in my possession before, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
'during and after the murders. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
'They took the car apart, and looked for blood and stuff like that, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
'anything, and checked all the forensics at the murder scene. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
'There's no way that car was involved in the murders.' | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
But anyway, the car used by the offender wasn't a white car. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
-No. -Nobody says white. -Nope. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
It still comes back to the main point - there is no beige car. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
You look at every possibility - | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
purchases, scrappings, thefts - nothing. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
It doesn't actually mean that he didn't get another car. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:52 | |
If he planned and intended to commit a crime that day, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:57 | |
would he go and do it in his own car that everybody knows? | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
How do you get another car without being able to prove that? | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
He either steals one, in which case the owners would report it. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
-Borrows one. -He either borrows one, nobody says that. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
It's quite a big deal to get another car and for the police | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
not to be able to prove that. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
I'm really surprised about the car. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
It seems extraordinary, because it's the only piece | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
of consistency that we can lock onto. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
-And link the witnesses. -And link the witnesses. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
-REPORTER: -Police are questioning a man over the murders of Lin Russell | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
and her six-year-old daughter Megan. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
After being arrested at his home in Gillingham, they were given | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
until late last night to either charge or release him. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
After questioning Stone for 24 hours, the police were forced | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
to apply to the courts to hold him for another 48. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
Vital to the investigation was testing whether Stone | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
could be linked forensically to evidence at the scene. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
The blood-covered towelling, the black lace... | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
..the bloody fingermark inside the lunchbox | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
and the strands of unknown hair found on items, including the shoes. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
That evidence is examined by forensic scientist | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
Dr Georgina Meakin, who has worked on more than 100 criminal cases. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
She starts with the bloodstained bootlace. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
The reason the bootlace is really important is that we think that this | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
was used in the tying up of one or more of the victims. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
It appears to have been brought by the perpetrator, | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
it's then been left down the path, away from the scene. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
So presumably dropped by the perpetrator walking away? | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
And, in total, 75 sections were examined. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
And there's no forensic link to Michael Stone. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
We also have a string bag found with the six strips of blue towel | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
inside, that we believe had been ripped into strips, and used. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
-The blood staining that we see that's covering them... -Yeah. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
..that was sent for DNA testing, and it comes from Lin. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
And the bag itself was heavily bloodstained, | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
and that also comes from Lin. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:20 | |
So, again, we've got no forensic link to Michael Stone. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
OK, let's talk about the lunch bag. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:29 | |
And this was found at Lin's feet. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
And it's actually on the top of this lunchbox, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
that a potential fingermark is found. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
It's been found in blood. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
But what the fingermark examiner finds is that there is a low count | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
loop pattern. So this... | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
..loop pattern, Michael Stone doesn't have it on his fingerprints. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
So this actually excludes Michael Stone from having left | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
-that fingermark. -But Lin Russell. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
-But Lin Russell. -Lin does on one of hers. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
So it says, "Could be her right middle finger, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
"could have left that mark." | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
This is where there's a real issue with that. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
And one of the things to really remember is that | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
when the crime scene examiner arrived at the scene, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
those lunch bags we've just seen were zipped up. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
They were closed. They were not open. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
So what I find really hard to believe | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
is that that fingermark would come from one of the victims, | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
because it would suggest it was then closed up afterwards. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
And I feel... | 0:37:32 | 0:37:33 | |
I feel that the fingermark's much more likely to have come from | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
the perpetrator. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
With none of the DNA pointing to Stone, | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
perhaps the unknown hairs found at the scene | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
could provide the missing link. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:47 | |
-REPORTER: -It emerged today that the police have discovered a hair | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
belonging to the offender at the scene, and have succeeded | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
in compiling a DNA profile. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:56 | |
The test has worked, we have a profile. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
We have something to compare suspects with. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
The only problem with this is that we have two have the suspect in the | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
first place, before we can compare it, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
because we need to take a sample from that person. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
Now that they had a prime suspect, they could compare that DNA. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:20 | |
So this was a pair of children's jelly shoes | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
that were found near Megan's head. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
Hairs were taken from the soles of those shoes, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
and they were examined microscopically. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
They were found to be different from the victim's. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
So they were submitted for DNA analysis. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
They found that those hairs could not have come from the victims, | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
and they could not have come from Michael Stone. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
So now we have some unknown DNA, at this point. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
We cannot connect Michael Stone's DNA to these murders. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
-Yeah, exactly. -OK, so it's another example of a lack. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
I'm saying it's not his DNA. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
Is it possible to commit a crime like this | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
and not leave any forensics? | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
I find it really difficult to believe that an assailant could | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
commit this offence and not leave traces of himself behind. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
Obviously, he's manhandling them, he's tying up the shoelaces, | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
he's tying up the piece of the towel. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
You'd expect him to be leaving his trace, his DNA, on these items. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:15 | |
The problem is, you have to bear in mind, this is 1996. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
DNA testing was in its infancy. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
You know, people now are a lot more aware of forensic science | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
and the kind of testing that can be done. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
So, back then, you weren't so aware of it. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
There are forensic... You know, potential for forensic links, | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
they just haven't... A person hasn't been found that links with them. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
Hairs are a wonderful thing in forensic science, | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
-because you shed hair. -But they're also really... | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
-Exactly. And so they're really easily transferred. -Yes. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
And these three victims had just been to the swimming baths. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
Yes, exactly. I'm not saying they're necessarily the perpetrator's, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
-but they're not Michael Stone's. -But they're not Michael Stone's. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
Where does this put us in... | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
-It's no more... -..Michael Stone's case? | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
Well, basically, it's not providing any forensic link | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
to Michael Stone, still. | 0:39:57 | 0:39:58 | |
So just because there is no forensic link, | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
doesn't prove that Michael Stone didn't do it. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
We know the crime occurred, therefore we know there's | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
an offender. That offender could have been Michael Stone, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
it could have been someone else. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:12 | |
Based on the scientific evidence, we simply don't know. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
What's Stone got to say about the forensics and DNA? | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
Well, the thing is, he was quite confident. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
The officer actually puts to him on one of the very first days | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
that he was interviewed, you know, "We're trying to get to the bottom | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
"of a very serious double murder." | 0:40:28 | 0:40:29 | |
Stone says this. "I'm confident it's going to come back, and it ain't me. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
"You've had my mouth swab, as well. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
"I've given it, and I'm confident it's going to come back, | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
"it won't be me." | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
'They said, "We've put the hair under the microscope." | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
'I said, "I guarantee you, you'll see that it's not me, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
'"it can't be me." | 0:40:48 | 0:40:49 | |
'I was confident. I knew straightaway, as soon as they said | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
'there was hairs on the body and that, I knew it wasn't mine, | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
'you know what I mean? But I was confident and bold with my answers | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
'all the time, because I knew that it wasn't, you know... | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
'Cos I knew I hadn't been there. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
'And I said, "Take my hair, take my DNA and that. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
'"That'll show you." | 0:41:08 | 0:41:09 | |
'I was keen to give it, you know?' | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
I've dealt with cases where there has been no forensic link. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
That is a huge disappointment. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
It would be a huge disappointment as an SIO. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
The police were running out of time, and had to charge Stone, | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
or release him. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
They had no evidence directly linking him to the murders, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
but they did have evidence of other unrelated crimes. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
Stone was charged with those, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:42 | |
and remanded in prison while the investigation continued. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
It's been ages since I've been down here. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
In the weeks that followed, he was visited regularly in prison | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
by his sister, Barbara. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
I worried about Mick, and what would happen to him in prison | 0:42:01 | 0:42:06 | |
as somebody who was thought of as somebody who'd killed children. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
That's quite bad, in the prison system. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
The media were showing a lot of interest in everything | 0:42:13 | 0:42:18 | |
to do with our family life, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
and everybody was being led to believe... | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
that he did it. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:24 | |
Everybody else hated him. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
The public hated him. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:28 | |
Even the once-a-week trips to court - | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
I saw a crowd had gathered and they were all throwing rocks | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
at the van. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:37 | |
That was probably the lowest point, I think. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
But, nevertheless, the back of my mind, I thought, | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
"It won't last for long." | 0:42:49 | 0:42:50 | |
He would come home, and, therefore, it wouldn't be a problem any more. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
While Michael Stone was on remand in prison, | 0:42:58 | 0:43:00 | |
police finally had their breakthrough. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
A prisoner named Damien Daley came forward, | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
claiming Stone had confessed to the killings in graphic detail | 0:43:07 | 0:43:11 | |
during a conversation they were having via a central heating pipe | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 | |
connecting their cells. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
I was, sort of, like, intrigued to hear what he did have to say, | 0:43:20 | 0:43:23 | |
even though it was sickening and frightening. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:25 | |
Something was just, sort of, like, drawing me to the | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
actual conversation, you know, listening to it. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:31 | |
Basically, I didn't like what I was hearing. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:35 | |
It was like being told a horror story. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:37 | |
Daley's statement was the evidence police needed to make their case. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:43 | |
And on the 20th of October 1997, Michael Stone was charged | 0:43:46 | 0:43:50 | |
with the murders of Lin and Megan Russell | 0:43:50 | 0:43:54 | |
and the attempted murder of Josie. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:56 | |
-REPORTER: -The man accused of murdering Lin Russell | 0:44:07 | 0:44:09 | |
and her six-year-old daughter, Megan, has gone on trial. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:13 | |
One year later, the trial of Michael Stone | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
began at Maidstone Crown Court in Kent. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
It's the most crowded courtroom I've ever been in. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:22 | |
You had to have a ticket to get in, | 0:44:22 | 0:44:24 | |
cos there was such massive interest. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:26 | |
You could have said it was the hottest ticket in town. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:31 | |
They were so many people here. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:33 | |
Every national paper had at least one reporter here. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
Every morning, there would be the photographers' ballet | 0:44:36 | 0:44:39 | |
of trying to get the van shot. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:41 | |
-REPORTER: -In custody - the 38-year-old man | 0:44:47 | 0:44:49 | |
accused of murdering a mother | 0:44:49 | 0:44:51 | |
and her daughter and attempting to kill a third member of the family. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:55 | |
You're sitting there, and they bring him up | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
out of the cells for the first time, you know, you do look at him. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
You do want to see what this guy looks like. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:04 | |
And there's a lot of anticipation and a lot of suspense. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:07 | |
Everybody wanted somebody to be guilty of this, | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
because it was so horrible. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:11 | |
Opening the prosecution, Anne Rafferty QC | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
said that although witnesses would be called, | 0:45:16 | 0:45:18 | |
there was no scientific evidence to link him to the scene | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
of the crime. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:22 | |
The theory was that Stone had travelled to Chillenden | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
to feed his drug habit, by committing a robbery... | 0:45:28 | 0:45:31 | |
..during which the Russell family were attacked. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
The case was mostly circumstantial, | 0:45:38 | 0:45:40 | |
but there were now three prisoners testifying about what Stone had | 0:45:40 | 0:45:44 | |
allegedly said in jail. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
Mark Jennings and Barry Thompson | 0:45:47 | 0:45:51 | |
claimed he'd suggested to each of them an involvement in the crimes. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:55 | |
But the Crown's key witness was Damien Daley. | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
Stephen Kamlish QC is examining Damien Daley's testimony. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:08 | |
He says Stone started confessing to him through a pipe in the wall. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:15 | |
And this is what he said... | 0:46:15 | 0:46:16 | |
I'm going to summarise, but I'll read out some of the bits in full. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:20 | |
"On Tuesday the 23rd of September 1997, about 8pm, | 0:46:20 | 0:46:25 | |
"I was alone in my cell when I became aware of a prisoner | 0:46:25 | 0:46:28 | |
"in a cell next to me. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:29 | |
"Michael Stone talked about smashing an egg, | 0:46:30 | 0:46:34 | |
"and that the inside was mush. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:36 | |
"He then said, "I tied them up with the towels, | 0:46:39 | 0:46:42 | |
"but I didn't need to, because they were out of the game." | 0:46:42 | 0:46:44 | |
And then he got the impression that Stone was actually getting off | 0:46:50 | 0:46:54 | |
on telling this story. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:56 | |
"He said the towels were wet, | 0:46:58 | 0:46:59 | |
"and mentioned something about shoelaces. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:02 | |
Then he talked about the dog barking, and he told | 0:47:03 | 0:47:07 | |
Stone to shut up, because he was sickened by what he was hearing. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:11 | |
And he said, "I told him, "I'll tell the screws what you said."" | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
So that is Daley's story. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
Powerful stuff, powerful stuff. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:20 | |
-REPORTER: -The lawyer defending Michael Stone has told the court | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
that the prosecution's case relies on evidence from what he called | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
"a bunch of convicts." | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
It was now up to Stone to decide whether to take the stand | 0:47:31 | 0:47:35 | |
and defend himself against the prisoner's claims. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:38 | |
The decision whether to give evidence or not | 0:47:40 | 0:47:42 | |
is clearly a vital decision in any trial. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:46 | |
Particularly in one as important as this. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:50 | |
Daley was quite a consistent witness | 0:47:52 | 0:47:55 | |
in the sense that he wouldn't be budged from his story. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:59 | |
In all these cases, it's only his word against Michael Stone's. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:03 | |
There was only one person who could speak to that, | 0:48:03 | 0:48:07 | |
other than the witness for the prosecution, | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
and that was Michael Stone himself. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:11 | |
-REPORTER: -Lawyers acting for Michael Stone, | 0:48:13 | 0:48:15 | |
the man accused of the Russell murders in Kent more than | 0:48:15 | 0:48:17 | |
two years ago, say he will not go into the witness box. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
Why didn't we hear from Stone? | 0:48:24 | 0:48:26 | |
The impact on the jury of not... | 0:48:26 | 0:48:29 | |
-Not denying it. -..not hearing from him, I mean, it's a massive risk. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
-Not having his day in court. -It's a massive risk, isn't it? | 0:48:32 | 0:48:34 | |
-Yeah, course it is. -The real question the jury were going | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
to be asking themselves is - | 0:48:37 | 0:48:38 | |
all the other evidence is circumstantial evidence, | 0:48:38 | 0:48:41 | |
so it may or may not be him. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:43 | |
So the one thing the jury wanted to hear | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
was his account of not having confessed to Daley. Right? | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
That is the reason why he ought to have given evidence, to deny it. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:55 | |
You want to hear what his response is. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:57 | |
You want to see the look in his eye when he says, "I'm not guilty." | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
You want to hear that and you want to see it. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:02 | |
What about the impact on the jury of not seeing Stone defending himself? | 0:49:02 | 0:49:07 | |
I would infer that there's something to hide, | 0:49:07 | 0:49:09 | |
otherwise they'd be saying, "This wasn't me, | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
"and I certainly didn't make that confession to him. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
"He's lying." | 0:49:15 | 0:49:16 | |
The decision is always made by the defendant and not by his lawyers. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:26 | |
It has to be his decision, whether to give evidence or not. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:30 | |
I found it very easy to form a view early on | 0:49:30 | 0:49:35 | |
that he would be a disastrous witness. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:37 | |
-MICHAEL STONE: -'I did very, very, very much | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
'want to defend myself. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:43 | |
'I wanted to scream it out. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:46 | |
'You know, when they said to me, "Did you confess to Damien Daley | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
'"through the pipe?" I would go, "No, of course I never. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:56 | |
'And as soon as they started going, "Yes, you did, you did, | 0:49:56 | 0:49:58 | |
'"we know you did, he said you did," I would have just lost my rag. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:02 | |
'I would have just lost my rag. I would have just started screaming | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
'at the prosecution, "You're setting me up, you dirty load | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
'"of corrupt bastards." I would have started screaming at them, | 0:50:07 | 0:50:10 | |
'and then I would have come across like a nutcase. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:12 | |
'Clegg said, "You will come across exactly like the | 0:50:12 | 0:50:15 | |
'"sort of person that's done this crime. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:17 | |
'"Like a nutcase."' | 0:50:17 | 0:50:18 | |
After 14 days, the trial was now over. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:26 | |
You can see the jurors on the other side, and they're there, | 0:50:30 | 0:50:33 | |
sitting in front of you. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:34 | |
And you know that they're going to decide whether he goes to prison for | 0:50:34 | 0:50:38 | |
the rest of his life, or not. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:40 | |
-REPORTER: -The jury in the trial of Michael Stone has gone | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
in to consider its verdict. The judge finished his summing up | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
this morning and told the jury not to hurry in making their decision. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:49 | |
After deliberating over two days, the jury returned its verdict. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:59 | |
-REPORTER: -Michael Stone has been found guilty of murdering | 0:51:04 | 0:51:06 | |
Lin Russell and her daughter, Megan, and trying to murder | 0:51:06 | 0:51:08 | |
her other daughter, Josie. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:10 | |
-REPORTER: -Michael Stone - heroin addict, | 0:51:17 | 0:51:20 | |
a man with a violent personality disorder, | 0:51:20 | 0:51:23 | |
a criminal record, now a convicted killer. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:26 | |
The judge told him, "There can't be anyone in this country | 0:51:26 | 0:51:29 | |
"who does not understand the horror of these offences." | 0:51:29 | 0:51:32 | |
At that point Stone shouted out, "It wasn't me, Your Honour! | 0:51:32 | 0:51:35 | |
"I didn't do it!" | 0:51:35 | 0:51:37 | |
-REPORTER: -So tonight, Stone starts three life sentences for murder. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:42 | |
I heard the guilty verdict, | 0:51:53 | 0:51:56 | |
I actually couldn't believe it. | 0:51:56 | 0:51:58 | |
It's like a big emotional kind of pain, in your heart, really. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:02 | |
I saw Mick, and Mick was going, "I didn't do it! | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
"It wasn't me! I didn't do it, Your Honour!" | 0:52:06 | 0:52:08 | |
And there was, like, tears in his eyes. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:10 | |
And I think my arm went out, and there was tears in mine. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
I just wanted to maintain a bit of self-respect and dignity | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
for Mick, really. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:19 | |
But from then on, I made a determined effort | 0:52:23 | 0:52:26 | |
that I wasn't the sister of a murderer. | 0:52:26 | 0:52:28 | |
I was the sister of a convicted murderer, | 0:52:28 | 0:52:30 | |
and the two things are something entirely different. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:33 | |
But within 24 hours of the verdict, there was a dramatic turn of events. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:41 | |
One of the three alleged cell confessions they used | 0:52:53 | 0:52:57 | |
in the first trial - Thompson - subsequently admitted | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
that it was all false. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:01 | |
He admitted, voluntarily, without being pressured, | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
that he lied about the confession. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
So he actually contacted a journalist | 0:53:09 | 0:53:11 | |
after the first conviction to say, | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
"What I said wasn't true." | 0:53:14 | 0:53:16 | |
And the second prisoner who received... | 0:53:16 | 0:53:20 | |
said a confession, was a guy called Jennings, | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
who it turned out had been paid £5,000, via his sister, | 0:53:23 | 0:53:29 | |
by The Sun, with the promise of another 10,000 to come. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:33 | |
With two out of the three of the prisoners discredited, | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
Michael Stone's defence team lodged an appeal. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:44 | |
-REPORTER: -The Crown had accepted that one of their key witnesses | 0:53:45 | 0:53:48 | |
in the original trial had lied. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:51 | |
For this reason alone, the appeal court judges said they | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
were minded to allow the appeal. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:56 | |
Stone's conviction was overturned and a retrial ordered. | 0:53:58 | 0:54:03 | |
In the eyes of the law, he was innocent once again. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:05 | |
But there was some evidence that the jury never got to hear. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:19 | |
Buried within the case files is a statement taken after | 0:54:19 | 0:54:23 | |
Stone first became a suspect. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:25 | |
It's from a psychiatric nurse, | 0:54:26 | 0:54:28 | |
part of the team that raised concerns after | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
the Crimewatch programme. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:31 | |
The testimony was never heard in court. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:37 | |
I think we should just set out some of the things that | 0:54:39 | 0:54:43 | |
his psychiatric nurse says. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:45 | |
She said she only started seeing him in October '95, | 0:54:45 | 0:54:48 | |
so that's, what, nine months before the killing? | 0:54:48 | 0:54:51 | |
So this isn't historic, in that sense. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
And this is what she said - | 0:54:54 | 0:54:55 | |
"Michael's behaviour was increasingly agitated and voluble, | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
"and he was not amenable to reasoning." | 0:54:58 | 0:55:01 | |
In fact, this is on the 4th of July '96, | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
five days before the Chillenden murders. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
So, "Michael's behaviour was increasingly agitated, | 0:55:07 | 0:55:10 | |
"focusing much of his angst towards a previous probation officer. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:14 | |
"The intensity of Michael's anger increased, | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
"followed by a series of explicit threats to harm or kill this person, | 0:55:17 | 0:55:21 | |
"and his family." | 0:55:21 | 0:55:23 | |
"He was, by now, shouting various threats of violence, | 0:55:29 | 0:55:33 | |
"causing me to fear for my own safety, | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
"and that of the probation officer and his family. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
"He asserted and emphasised his dangerousness, | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
"suggesting he's too violent to be accommodated in prison | 0:55:43 | 0:55:47 | |
"and would need to be admitted to Broadmoor Hospital, | 0:55:47 | 0:55:50 | |
"with notions of achieving fame and glory for his crimes." | 0:55:50 | 0:55:53 | |
It's made the hairs on my arms come up. It's just... | 0:55:57 | 0:55:59 | |
It's so cold. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
So this would have been four or five days before the killings, | 0:56:03 | 0:56:05 | |
where he was so aroused that he started shouting | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
about what a danger he was to others. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:10 | |
To me, it puts him as... | 0:56:10 | 0:56:13 | |
-..prime suspect. -The number one suspect. -Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:17 | |
On the 4th of July, which was the last time she saw him | 0:56:20 | 0:56:25 | |
before the killing, she says this - | 0:56:25 | 0:56:27 | |
"Michael's behaviour was increasingly agitated and voluble, | 0:56:27 | 0:56:32 | |
"and he was not amenable to reasoning. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:34 | |
"Followed by a series of explicit threats to harm or kill | 0:56:34 | 0:56:37 | |
"the probation officer and his family." | 0:56:37 | 0:56:40 | |
To have this much uncontrollable anger, | 0:56:40 | 0:56:43 | |
this begins to change your perception of him. | 0:56:43 | 0:56:47 | |
And none of this actually indicates that he has done this crime | 0:56:47 | 0:56:51 | |
that we're talking about. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:53 | |
None of them prove this crime at all. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:55 | |
This case, and piecing together who done it, | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
is about the group of people included within | 0:56:58 | 0:57:01 | |
the killer's profile. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:03 | |
Anybody that says, "I want to go out and kill people, | 0:57:03 | 0:57:05 | |
"and I don't care about it," you'd say was in the broad group of people | 0:57:05 | 0:57:09 | |
who might have committed this crime. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:11 | |
Cos everybody reading about this crime would say, | 0:57:11 | 0:57:13 | |
"Who the hell could do that?" | 0:57:13 | 0:57:15 | |
It's a crime of a psychopath. | 0:57:15 | 0:57:17 | |
-MICHAEL STONE: -'So far as my probation officer goes, right... | 0:57:20 | 0:57:23 | |
'Obviously, like, he... | 0:57:26 | 0:57:28 | |
'He, he... | 0:57:28 | 0:57:29 | |
'He has decided, right, that... | 0:57:29 | 0:57:32 | |
'Me and my girlfriend, Rachel, | 0:57:32 | 0:57:34 | |
'right, were in a relationship together, | 0:57:34 | 0:57:36 | |
'and he's decided that we're a bad influence on each other, right? | 0:57:36 | 0:57:42 | |
'Then I said, "How would he like it if I did things to him?" | 0:57:42 | 0:57:46 | |
'And I said, "That fucking bastard's been up there, | 0:57:46 | 0:57:49 | |
'"and splitting me up with my girlfriend. | 0:57:49 | 0:57:51 | |
'"How would he like it if I go round his house and fucking kill him, | 0:57:51 | 0:57:54 | |
'"kill his fucking family, and burn his fucking house down?" | 0:57:54 | 0:57:57 | |
'Do you know what I mean?' | 0:57:57 | 0:57:58 | |
-REPORTER: -The jury has begun hearing evidence in the second trial | 0:58:05 | 0:58:08 | |
of Michael Stone. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:09 | |
If the jury believed Daley, he goes down. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:13 | |
If they don't, Stone walks. | 0:58:13 | 0:58:16 | |
She does remember, distinctly, blood on his top. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:20 | |
I mean, you've got the worst crime in Kent, | 0:58:21 | 0:58:23 | |
and the principal exhibit goes missing. | 0:58:23 | 0:58:26 | |
I'm angry at this situation. | 0:58:27 | 0:58:29 | |
You're on the jury. | 0:58:29 | 0:58:31 | |
Is Stone guilty? | 0:58:31 | 0:58:33 |