Episode 1 The Chillenden Murders


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This programme contains some strong language

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and some scenes which some viewers may find upsetting.

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GREENWICH TIME SIGNAL

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-REPORTER:

-Kent Police have begun a murder enquiry after

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the terrible deaths of Lin Russell

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and her six-year-old daughter, Megan.

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They died near Canterbury, from head injuries.

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A second daughter, nine-year-old Josephine,

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is alive but seriously injured in hospital.

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-REPORTER:

-Their bodies were found huddled together

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on this isolated track just half a mile from their home in Nonington.

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The family were beaten with a blunt metal instrument, like a hammer.

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-REPORTER:

-This tranquil corner of Kent,

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now the scene of a double murder.

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Killings which have shocked this quiet, close-knit community.

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In the summer of 1996,

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a young family were brutally attacked

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down a quiet country lane in Kent.

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-REPORTER:

-One of the most tragic events of the summer.

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A case unprecedented in British criminal history.

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The hunt for the killer became one of the biggest stories

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of the decade.

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The tragedy happened on a footpath coming home from school

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in one of the most rural and scenic parts of Kent.

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-REPORTER:

-Since the investigation began, more than 9,000 people

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have been interviewed and 1,000 witness statements taken.

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-REPORTER:

-Here, the best lead so far.

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This could be the image of the murderer.

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A year later, Michael Stone was arrested.

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He was tried, convicted and sentenced to life in prison.

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-REPORTER:

-Michael Stone, heroin addict,

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a man with a violent personality disorder, a criminal record,

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now a convicted killer.

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The judge told him, "There can't be anyone in this country who does not

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"understand the horror of these offences."

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At that point, Stone shouted out,

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"It wasn't me, Your Honour. I didn't do it."

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Despite that verdict, the case is still in the headlines,

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and doubts continue to be raised about Michael Stone's guilt.

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Michael Stone's conviction hung on a very delicate thread.

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I think that there's a considerable

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question mark about whether this

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kind of evidence

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can safely be used at all.

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And for the last 20 years, Stone himself has stuck to the same story.

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-MICHAEL STONE:

-I never murdered them people and I had nothing

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to do with it. I don't know who done it.

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I had no involvement whatsoever, and that's why I'm innocent.

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But is Stone a liar and a killer, or could the wrong man be in prison?

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Now, to try and answer that question,

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a panel of independent experts with decades of experience

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in criminal justice has agreed to re-examine the original case files.

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I think you're missing that they have completely changed

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their account of what they're saying they've got!

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Lawyers...

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This one lace could contain the key to who killed this family.

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..detectives...

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This has left a lot of unanswered questions.

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..a forensic scientist...

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The DNA can't be Michael Stone.

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..all digging deep into one of Britain's most notorious crimes...

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To me, it puts him as prime suspect.

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..to see if justice has been done.

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If it's not Michael Stone, then who is it,

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and where's that individual been for the last 20 years?

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'In these files, we've got an extraordinary range of material.

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'It's a story of an investigation.

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'It's a story of a conviction.'

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You're cracking open a time capsule going back 20 years.

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In 18 archive boxes lie thousands of documents,

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a paper trail left behind by those involved in an infamous crime,

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investigation and controversial conviction.

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It's both daunting and exciting.

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In there are nuggets which are going to give you answers.

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I've never known a case not to produce surprises.

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A panel of leading experts is gathering

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to examine paperwork that's lain untouched for years.

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We're coming in with a such a neutral perspective

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that I'm looking to see whether the evidence is going to push me

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in one direction or the other.

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I come to it thinking, "This guy's been convicted."

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And so, one has to have some...

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faith that the jury came to the right view.

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Together, they'll painstakingly reconstruct the events,

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examine the evidence and seek answers to any questions

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that remain.

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'You're looking at a case from 1996 with 2016 eyes,'

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as if anything may have slipped through the cracks.

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I'm going to talk you through what happened on that day,

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9th of July, 1996.

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You've got a map in front of you.

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I've got a large one up there on the board,

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and we've also got up there some crime-scene photographs.

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Former Detective Chief Superintendent Jane Antrobus

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spent 30 years investigating serious crime for

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Greater Manchester Police.

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She begins any case review by focusing on the known facts

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of the crime.

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In the initial stages of an investigation,

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a senior investigating officer will put together what they call a

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timeline.

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Where's that victim been?

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How many witnesses have they been past?

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What forensic has been gathered?

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So the timeline is a visual aid to understanding the crime.

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So, we've got here the school where Lin and her daughters

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and the dog started off from.

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The children have been to a swimming gala

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and at 3:55, they start their walk home.

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So they come along here and they turn up in the direction, left,

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towards Chillenden.

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Their route home is along Cherry Garden Lane.

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Now, I've put that significant dot, because that is where their journey

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ended that particular day.

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By 8:30, Shaun Russell...

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..father of the girls and husband of Lin, was starting to panic.

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Shaun reports his wife and the children missing.

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It's at quarter to one...

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..the following morning...

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..that the bodies are recovered.

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Initially, thought to be three bodies.

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Lin, Josie and Megan.

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When they then get out the medical practitioner

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to certify life extinct, like you do at any murder scene...

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..he finds Josie's not dead.

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She's still alive, but only barely alive.

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She's then rushed to hospital.

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All the victims have suffered significant blunt force trauma

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to their heads.

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And how Josie has survived is beyond belief.

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It really is.

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So a murder investigation is launched.

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The scene's preserved and the forensic science team

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are called in to examine that scene.

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I was travelling on the M25

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when I received a phone call from

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the Principal Scenes of Crime Officer to say

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that they had found two bodies...

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and there was another person seriously injured...

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..and that they might need some coordination or advice about...

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the scientific potential of the scene.

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So I pulled off the motorway and headed back towards Kent.

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In 1996, Professor Jim Fraser was head of

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Forensic Investigation for Kent Police,

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and one of the first people on the scene.

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I was met by my Principal Scenes of Crime Officer,

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who basically took me to the scene and started to kind of

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walk me through it.

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At that stage, it still hadn't been fully examined yet.

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The bodies were still there.

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People were still forming their first impressions

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about what might have happened.

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The bulk of the...

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assault had taken place in a small, kind of enclosed copse.

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And all the bodies were found inside that area, including the dog.

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The main conclusion that I reached related not so much to the area

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where the bodies were found, but to the track adjacent

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to the copse where the bodies were found.

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And there were four groups of bloodstains on the track.

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That enabled me to conclude that the attack probably started on the track

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and then moved into the copse, where...

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Essentially, where the victims were murdered.

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Outdoor scenes are not that common

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and they present kind of different problems.

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Most people are murdered indoors,

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or in kind of enclosed spaces,

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so there is an immediate scene where the bodies were found

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and there is a wider scene.

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Do you search the lay-bys that are along the road from the scene?

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Do you search some 500 metres?

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A mile?

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It's difficult to know where an outdoor scene like this

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begins and ends.

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As the forensic team searched for scientific clues,

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detectives began a nationwide search for witnesses.

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My appeal tonight is anybody who's got the slightest idea at all,

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please, please come forward.

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Pick the phone up tonight and call us.

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Dave, thank you very much. Well, we all here can only echo that.

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Please call, if you can help.

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If you have any information. O500 600 600. It's a free call...

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Within the case files, the panel find the witness statements

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of the first people to come forward.

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It is quite a remote area.

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People stand out, so witnesses will come forward.

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You're looking to seek commonalities within those statements.

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In cases like this, it's those small pieces of information

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that all come together to make the full jigsaw.

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Witness one, called Nicola Burchill.

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Nicola was here at the junction.

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It was 4:43.

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-REPORTER:

-A woman came across a beige car pulling away

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from a junction that led to the murder scene.

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So she sees a beige car.

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So Nicola was in her car.

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That's when she said,

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"Saw a car at the junction and it pulled off in front of me,

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"forcing me to come down a few gears.

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"I could tell he was angry.

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"He kept looking at me through his wing mirror."

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Now, this is key,

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because Nicola Burchill is the lady that later did an E-fit of the man

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she saw in the wing mirror.

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That's the E-fit.

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White male, very short, gingery hair, stocky,

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wearing a red T-shirt.

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I'm going to move on now to the next witness.

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She's driving past the windmill.

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About half a mile away, there's a local landmark outside

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Chillenden village.

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The woman was driving out of the village on Cave Lane,

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and approaching the windmill, when she saw a man standing by

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the road.

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She's driving.

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She doesn't see a vehicle.

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But what she does see...

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..is a man acting strangely.

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She says, "He's very agitated."

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Plus, the fact she said he's holding an implement in his right hand,

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and she actually says, "It's a claw hammer."

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The next key witness.

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Now, he says it's ten past five.

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He sees a car and he says,

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"I thought it was an old Escort in beige."

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So a common theme coming here.

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Beige car, possibly an Escort.

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Half an hour later, he takes his dog for a walk

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and he goes to where he saw that agitated man.

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Dog pulled in towards the hedge

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and I noticed a bag had been stuffed in the bushes.

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He actually then saw it was a string bag.

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And it had strips of blue towel inside it,

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and the victims' blood were on the strips of towel.

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That is significant, because it is used to tie the victims up,

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put there by the suspicious, agitated man.

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The killer.

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-The killer.

-Yeah.

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They had quite clear elimination criteria.

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Evidence implicating a white man, I think in about his 30s, in a beige,

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Ford Escort-type car.

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So anybody who didn't fit that description, you could eliminate.

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Back at the crime scene, Jim Fraser and the forensic team

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were still searching for evidence.

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In the copse where the bodies were found,

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there were three items that kind of stood out.

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The first one was, there was a fingerprint that appeared

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to be in blood on one of the lunchboxes.

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The second one was that we found some hairs

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that looked as if they didn't come from any of the people

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at the scene.

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And then outside that area, on the track, found a little time later,

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was a black bootlace.

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The lace was considered to be so important because

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it was bloodstained from two of the victims.

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It was obviously used in the attacks in some way.

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Those items were tested, but offered no immediate link to an offender.

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And with no suspect, the Chillenden murders

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became Britain's biggest story.

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I got a...

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call from a mate of mine at the Daily Star...

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..who said there'd been an incident in a place called Chillenden.

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"Where's that?" So I looked at the map and he said,

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"Get your arse down there."

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So we got our arses down there.

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You had The Express, The Sun, Star, Mirror.

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The whole lot all descended on the middle of nowhere.

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We obviously knew that this was going to be a big...

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It would be page-one news in every paper.

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You know, it dominated your life for weeks.

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It was dramatic from the get-go and it didn't let up.

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Despite the media frenzy, after several weeks,

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Kent Police were no closer to solving the case.

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-REPORTER:

-Since the investigation began, more than 9,000 people

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have been interviewed and 1,000 witness statements taken.

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-REPORTER:

-With the killer still on the loose, there's an uneasiness

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in this quiet Kent village.

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The police were obviously under a lot of pressure.

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I know that, because myself and my colleagues were the ones

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putting them under pressure. We were the ones that wanted answers,

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and we were the ones asking them.

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Because they are a fairly ordinary middle-class family,

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it just means that everybody could see themselves in the Russells,

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and the question you would ask yourself is,

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"What if it was my family? What would I have done?

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"What would I want to happen now?"

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And everybody wanted to see somebody go to prison for it.

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Four weeks after the attacks,

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nine-year-old Josie Russell was finally able to leave hospital...

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..and, over time, told police what she could recall.

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Her mother was hit by this man,

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and told Josie to run for help.

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Josie did run for help, but she didn't get very far,

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cos the man caught her up, and hit her with the hammer as well.

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She identified a hammer as the weapon,

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and she said that her hands were tied with a shoelace.

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And she describes the man...

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..as "rooting through the lunchboxes."

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She mentions that the man asks for money.

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A suggestion that robbery was the motive

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connected to a separate lead the police were following -

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the burglary and theft of a lawnmower near to the crime scene

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on the same day.

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But it still didn't connect them to a suspect.

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To understand what was going on behind the scenes

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of the investigation, the panel turn to the logbook

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of the operation, known as the Policy File.

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It's the daily record of every decision made, and the reasons why.

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For the Chillenden murders, it covers months of enquiries,

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and runs to over eight books, and hundreds of pages.

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Well, the months after the investigation, obviously,

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it's going 100 miles an hour.

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I've looked at the Policy File, I've looked at the case papers,

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they are following all those leads and potential leads.

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Speaking to MO suspects - you know, paedophiles...

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..cars are being looked at.

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The beige car is being looked for, for months.

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The SIO is still under the spotlight.

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"Why haven't you cracked this case?"

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But ultimately, they're not producing any new leads.

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They're not getting anything.

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A full year after the deaths, the police were forced, once again,

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to turn to the public.

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A year ago today an unprecedented crime took place

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which astonished and sickened the whole nation.

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Dave Stevens, a year has passed, you still haven't found the murderer.

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How have the public helped you in that year?

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The public, really, have helped enormously.

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Their support has been overwhelming.

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We've pieced together a story which hasn't led to the killer.

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We still haven't received that vital piece of information

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that's led to an arrest.

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-REPORTER:

-A renewed appeal on the BBC's Crimewatch programme last week

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-resulted in 600 calls to the police.

-PHONES RING

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Amongst hundreds of calls, one stood out -

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from a psychiatrist who said his nursing staff had named a patient

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as a potential suspect.

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The patient's name...

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..Michael Stone.

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Stone lived 40 miles from the scene of the attacks,

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in the Medway area of Kent.

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He was arrested at his mother's house on the 17th of July 1997.

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There he is, in the middle.

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Early in the morning, they knocked the door,

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and said they were arresting him

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for the murder of the Russells.

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And then they come back...

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..the next day, and searched my flat.

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Took all the washing off the line, which belonged to Michael.

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And then the next minute, you'd get the paper people.

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I couldn't go out of this door for months.

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They even...

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I know it's naughty, but they kept shouting through the letterbox,

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and I emptied the kettle on them, you know...

0:23:010:23:03

..to shut them up.

0:23:050:23:07

Good job the water was cold.

0:23:070:23:08

I remember the day when they

0:23:110:23:14

came to the door, the police.

0:23:140:23:16

But me, I was not only in a state of shock,

0:23:170:23:19

but felt I ought to listen to them.

0:23:190:23:21

And they were saying to me, things like, "He looks like the Photofit."

0:23:210:23:25

We actually went out into the road, myself, with a police officer,

0:23:250:23:29

and we were holding this Photofit up in the street

0:23:290:23:32

with a picture of Mick, and he was pointing out the features

0:23:320:23:35

on the Photofit that he felt were looking like Mick.

0:23:350:23:39

And I'm going...

0:23:390:23:40

And even then, I kind of thought to myself,

0:23:400:23:42

"Oh, perhaps somebody just did a poor drawing,

0:23:420:23:44

"or a poor description or something."

0:23:440:23:46

This was a horrible crime.

0:23:480:23:50

And if my brother had done this, you know, I would agree,

0:23:500:23:52

he would have had to have been prosecuted, and convicted for it.

0:23:520:23:56

But I gave them a chance to show me,

0:23:560:23:58

cos they were so keen to show me that he did it.

0:23:580:24:00

But they never could quite manage it.

0:24:000:24:02

I just, you know, couldn't believe it.

0:24:060:24:08

Stunned, really.

0:24:080:24:09

How can you be left feeling?

0:24:130:24:15

You know what I mean?

0:24:150:24:16

I can't say heartbroken, because Mick is Mick, isn't he?

0:24:180:24:21

No, he's done some things he shouldn't have done.

0:24:230:24:26

Police now had a suspect in custody.

0:24:340:24:37

But was he capable of committing the Chillenden murders?

0:24:400:24:43

To help answer that, the panel's legal team put Michael Stone's

0:24:470:24:50

criminal history under the microscope.

0:24:500:24:53

It's led by Stephen Kamlish -

0:24:540:24:57

a QC with 35 years' experience

0:24:570:25:00

working on the country's most serious crimes.

0:25:000:25:02

Including acting for Stephen Lawrence's family.

0:25:040:25:06

He's supported by junior counsel Sheryl Nwosu.

0:25:090:25:12

Their examination of Stone's history reveals he was a

0:25:170:25:20

long-term heroin user with multiple convictions for burglary.

0:25:200:25:24

And a regular thief of items, such as lawnmowers.

0:25:260:25:30

People's previous convictions show basic propensity to commit a crime.

0:25:320:25:36

In a case like this, a person with previous convictions -

0:25:360:25:39

and he was a drug addict -

0:25:390:25:41

you're not judging them by your own standards,

0:25:410:25:43

they don't live the same sort of life as the jury lives.

0:25:430:25:47

You've got to be careful that they aren't stereotyped into being guilty

0:25:470:25:52

because they're criminals.

0:25:520:25:53

But Stone's record also reveals a more violent side.

0:25:550:25:58

This is someone who's got a background with extreme violence,

0:26:020:26:06

apart from the fact that he's...

0:26:060:26:08

..a burglar - a shed burglar, really, low-level shed burglary

0:26:090:26:13

for the most part, he has also got some significant convictions.

0:26:130:26:17

There was an armed robbery of a bank and a theatre,

0:26:170:26:21

where he used a shotgun.

0:26:210:26:22

So this was someone who was clearly violent, potentially very dangerous.

0:26:240:26:29

There was a previous conviction for a stabbing in 1983.

0:26:290:26:33

Attacked a man he'd known from childhood,

0:26:330:26:35

stabbing him in the chest when he was sleeping.

0:26:350:26:37

-Whilst he was sleeping?

-Whilst he was sleeping.

0:26:370:26:40

He had a previous conviction for a hammer attack,

0:26:410:26:44

for which he received a two-year sentence.

0:26:440:26:46

Who was the hammer attack of?

0:26:460:26:48

Stone went to a man's house, he got into an argument,

0:26:480:26:52

which turned into a fight.

0:26:520:26:54

And it appears that he wasn't armed, but in the man's house,

0:26:540:26:57

there was a mallet on a workbench which Stone picked up, swung it,

0:26:570:27:00

hit the man, and then ran away.

0:27:000:27:03

From a police point of view, you know, this is going

0:27:030:27:06

to be significant.

0:27:060:27:07

You're asking us to compare this to what the man's alleged to have done.

0:27:070:27:11

He's not adverse to committing acts of violence, right?

0:27:110:27:14

So he's prepared to get money, to be violent, to get his own back,

0:27:140:27:18

to be violent, that's what his record shows.

0:27:180:27:21

But it doesn't show that he is a man who lies in wait for women

0:27:210:27:25

and children to kill them.

0:27:250:27:27

Questions raised by the panel during their investigation

0:27:280:27:32

are put to Stone in prison.

0:27:320:27:34

'Yeah, I was violent then, but this is a different type of violence.

0:27:360:27:40

'I've got no form for violence against women or children.

0:27:400:27:43

'Yeah, I've done robberies and stuff,

0:27:440:27:46

'but whenever I've done robberies

0:27:460:27:47

'I've not hurt anybody, unnecessarily.

0:27:470:27:49

'I'm a thief. When I commit crime, I nick things.

0:27:510:27:54

'I go into the house when no-one's there.

0:27:540:27:56

'I nick a car when no-one's in the car.

0:27:560:27:59

'I don't touch the people.

0:27:590:28:02

'The nature of the crime, and the victims in this case,

0:28:020:28:05

'it's not the kind of crime that I'd do.'

0:28:050:28:07

There's violence, and then there's this.

0:28:090:28:11

But the idea that he couldn't do this crime because he hadn't done it

0:28:110:28:14

before is a nonsense, because there's a first time for everything.

0:28:140:28:17

It puts him in that percentage of the population

0:28:170:28:20

of people who could have done it.

0:28:200:28:22

-But it doesn't mean he did it.

-And who've got pre-cons for violence.

0:28:220:28:25

-Yeah.

-Sure.

0:28:250:28:26

-REPORTER:

-Detectives investigating the murders of Lin and Megan Russell

0:28:320:28:35

have questioned a man in connection with their deaths.

0:28:350:28:39

13 months after the attacks, Stone was being held

0:28:390:28:42

at Chatham police station, where officers were interviewing him.

0:28:420:28:46

Within the case files are the transcripts of more than 22 hours

0:28:490:28:54

of interviews.

0:28:540:28:55

There are three types of police interview.

0:28:570:29:00

One is where people are advised to make no comment.

0:29:000:29:04

That doesn't mean they're guilty,

0:29:040:29:06

but the advice comes from the solicitor.

0:29:060:29:08

The second type of interview is where a person makes some comment,

0:29:080:29:12

and then refuses to answer certain questions.

0:29:120:29:15

And the third one is one where the person essentially says,

0:29:160:29:20

"You can ask me anything, and I'll answer anything."

0:29:200:29:25

And this was what happened here.

0:29:250:29:27

Stone was saying that he was innocent throughout,

0:29:320:29:35

and he basically said to the investigators,

0:29:350:29:37

"Do everything you want, you'll find it's not me."

0:29:370:29:41

He has no trouble explaining himself.

0:29:410:29:43

He's really clear on answering all the questions.

0:29:430:29:46

I think it's significant,

0:29:460:29:48

the fact that throughout these hours and hours of interviews,

0:29:480:29:53

Michael Stone's actually spoke and answered questions,

0:29:530:29:57

rather than done the conventional...

0:29:570:30:00

..no comment.

0:30:010:30:02

A solicitor would be expected to advise that in this case,

0:30:020:30:05

cos there's so much detail.

0:30:050:30:06

-Yeah.

-And who knows who might put their foot in it?

0:30:060:30:09

-It's just a standard advice a solicitor would give.

-Yeah.

0:30:090:30:12

25 hours, answering every question.

0:30:120:30:14

'The reason why I answered the questions - cos normally I

0:30:170:30:20

'would have done no comment in the police station,

0:30:200:30:23

'I've always done no comment.

0:30:230:30:24

'But because it was a little girl that got murdered,

0:30:240:30:27

'and the murderer was out there loose,

0:30:270:30:29

'I spoke with the police to help them eliminate me,

0:30:290:30:33

'so they could go and catch the real murderer.

0:30:330:30:35

'Do you know what I mean? That's the only reason why

0:30:350:30:38

'I answered all those questions.'

0:30:380:30:40

In interview, the police challenged Stone to provide an alibi

0:30:420:30:46

for the day of the murders.

0:30:460:30:48

It was a year after.

0:30:500:30:53

And I couldn't give an alibi.

0:30:530:30:55

I had no reason to remember 4:30 on the 9th of July.

0:30:560:31:00

Former senior detective Jane Antrobus tries to piece together

0:31:030:31:07

Stone's movements that day.

0:31:070:31:09

She finds a receipt, pinpointing him to a location.

0:31:100:31:14

On the 9th of July, the day of the murders,

0:31:140:31:17

he was in a shop in Chatham high street.

0:31:170:31:21

At 12:20, a Cash Converters.

0:31:210:31:24

So, at 12:20, he was in Cash Converters...

0:31:260:31:30

..40 mile away from the murder scene.

0:31:310:31:33

That would give him ample opportunity to get

0:31:360:31:40

to the scene of the murder.

0:31:400:31:42

Although we can't physically put Michael Stone at the scene,

0:31:430:31:48

we can't alibi him out of it.

0:31:480:31:49

So he could have been there.

0:31:520:31:53

With Stone unable to rule himself out,

0:31:570:32:00

police are examining his links to the evidence.

0:32:000:32:03

In particular, the beige car spotted by multiple witnesses.

0:32:030:32:07

There's a lot goes on, especially in the interviews of Michael Stone.

0:32:100:32:14

About what cars he owned and had access to

0:32:140:32:18

during that relevant period.

0:32:180:32:20

Before the murder, he wasn't driving a beige car.

0:32:220:32:25

-I believe he was driving...

-White Toyota Tercel.

0:32:250:32:28

A policeman gives a statement,

0:32:280:32:30

that four days before the murder he sees Stone in a pub,

0:32:300:32:34

and that Stone's driven there in this white Toyota Tercel.

0:32:340:32:39

And on the 16th of July, which is after the murder,

0:32:390:32:43

he's stopped again, a few days after by a different police officer

0:32:430:32:48

and he's actually driving it.

0:32:480:32:50

So two separate days, each side of the murder, he's in that Tercel.

0:32:500:32:56

They spent a lot of time trying to tidy Stone down to a beige car.

0:32:560:32:59

But the Toyota Tercel is constantly being confirmed as Stone's.

0:32:590:33:06

That's a definite.

0:33:060:33:08

That's the only definite at the time.

0:33:080:33:10

-MICHAEL STONE:

-'At that time I only had one car.

0:33:120:33:14

'Nobody's in any doubt that that car was in my possession before,

0:33:140:33:18

'during and after the murders.

0:33:180:33:20

'They took the car apart, and looked for blood and stuff like that,

0:33:220:33:25

'anything, and checked all the forensics at the murder scene.

0:33:250:33:28

'There's no way that car was involved in the murders.'

0:33:280:33:31

But anyway, the car used by the offender wasn't a white car.

0:33:330:33:37

-No.

-Nobody says white.

-Nope.

0:33:370:33:39

It still comes back to the main point - there is no beige car.

0:33:390:33:42

You look at every possibility -

0:33:420:33:45

purchases, scrappings, thefts - nothing.

0:33:450:33:48

It doesn't actually mean that he didn't get another car.

0:33:480:33:52

If he planned and intended to commit a crime that day,

0:33:520:33:57

would he go and do it in his own car that everybody knows?

0:33:570:34:00

How do you get another car without being able to prove that?

0:34:000:34:04

He either steals one, in which case the owners would report it.

0:34:040:34:08

-Borrows one.

-He either borrows one, nobody says that.

0:34:080:34:11

It's quite a big deal to get another car and for the police

0:34:110:34:15

not to be able to prove that.

0:34:150:34:17

I'm really surprised about the car.

0:34:170:34:19

It seems extraordinary, because it's the only piece

0:34:190:34:21

of consistency that we can lock onto.

0:34:210:34:24

-And link the witnesses.

-And link the witnesses.

0:34:240:34:26

-REPORTER:

-Police are questioning a man over the murders of Lin Russell

0:34:320:34:35

and her six-year-old daughter Megan.

0:34:350:34:38

After being arrested at his home in Gillingham, they were given

0:34:380:34:41

until late last night to either charge or release him.

0:34:410:34:44

After questioning Stone for 24 hours, the police were forced

0:34:470:34:51

to apply to the courts to hold him for another 48.

0:34:510:34:54

Vital to the investigation was testing whether Stone

0:34:570:35:00

could be linked forensically to evidence at the scene.

0:35:000:35:03

The blood-covered towelling, the black lace...

0:35:060:35:09

..the bloody fingermark inside the lunchbox

0:35:100:35:14

and the strands of unknown hair found on items, including the shoes.

0:35:140:35:17

That evidence is examined by forensic scientist

0:35:190:35:22

Dr Georgina Meakin, who has worked on more than 100 criminal cases.

0:35:220:35:26

She starts with the bloodstained bootlace.

0:35:270:35:30

The reason the bootlace is really important is that we think that this

0:35:320:35:35

was used in the tying up of one or more of the victims.

0:35:350:35:38

It appears to have been brought by the perpetrator,

0:35:380:35:41

it's then been left down the path, away from the scene.

0:35:410:35:44

So presumably dropped by the perpetrator walking away?

0:35:440:35:48

And, in total, 75 sections were examined.

0:35:480:35:51

And there's no forensic link to Michael Stone.

0:35:540:35:57

We also have a string bag found with the six strips of blue towel

0:36:020:36:06

inside, that we believe had been ripped into strips, and used.

0:36:060:36:10

-The blood staining that we see that's covering them...

-Yeah.

0:36:100:36:14

..that was sent for DNA testing, and it comes from Lin.

0:36:140:36:16

And the bag itself was heavily bloodstained,

0:36:160:36:19

and that also comes from Lin.

0:36:190:36:20

So, again, we've got no forensic link to Michael Stone.

0:36:220:36:25

OK, let's talk about the lunch bag.

0:36:280:36:29

And this was found at Lin's feet.

0:36:290:36:32

And it's actually on the top of this lunchbox,

0:36:330:36:37

that a potential fingermark is found.

0:36:370:36:40

It's been found in blood.

0:36:410:36:43

But what the fingermark examiner finds is that there is a low count

0:36:430:36:47

loop pattern. So this...

0:36:470:36:49

..loop pattern, Michael Stone doesn't have it on his fingerprints.

0:36:510:36:55

So this actually excludes Michael Stone from having left

0:36:550:36:58

-that fingermark.

-But Lin Russell.

0:36:580:37:00

-But Lin Russell.

-Lin does on one of hers.

0:37:000:37:02

So it says, "Could be her right middle finger,

0:37:020:37:05

"could have left that mark."

0:37:050:37:07

This is where there's a real issue with that.

0:37:070:37:09

And one of the things to really remember is that

0:37:090:37:12

when the crime scene examiner arrived at the scene,

0:37:120:37:15

those lunch bags we've just seen were zipped up.

0:37:150:37:18

They were closed. They were not open.

0:37:180:37:21

So what I find really hard to believe

0:37:210:37:24

is that that fingermark would come from one of the victims,

0:37:240:37:28

because it would suggest it was then closed up afterwards.

0:37:280:37:32

And I feel...

0:37:320:37:33

I feel that the fingermark's much more likely to have come from

0:37:330:37:36

the perpetrator.

0:37:360:37:38

With none of the DNA pointing to Stone,

0:37:410:37:43

perhaps the unknown hairs found at the scene

0:37:430:37:46

could provide the missing link.

0:37:460:37:47

-REPORTER:

-It emerged today that the police have discovered a hair

0:37:500:37:52

belonging to the offender at the scene, and have succeeded

0:37:520:37:55

in compiling a DNA profile.

0:37:550:37:56

The test has worked, we have a profile.

0:37:580:38:01

We have something to compare suspects with.

0:38:010:38:05

The only problem with this is that we have two have the suspect in the

0:38:050:38:08

first place, before we can compare it,

0:38:080:38:11

because we need to take a sample from that person.

0:38:110:38:14

Now that they had a prime suspect, they could compare that DNA.

0:38:150:38:20

So this was a pair of children's jelly shoes

0:38:210:38:23

that were found near Megan's head.

0:38:230:38:25

Hairs were taken from the soles of those shoes,

0:38:250:38:28

and they were examined microscopically.

0:38:280:38:30

They were found to be different from the victim's.

0:38:300:38:32

So they were submitted for DNA analysis.

0:38:320:38:34

They found that those hairs could not have come from the victims,

0:38:340:38:38

and they could not have come from Michael Stone.

0:38:380:38:40

So now we have some unknown DNA, at this point.

0:38:400:38:43

We cannot connect Michael Stone's DNA to these murders.

0:38:430:38:47

-Yeah, exactly.

-OK, so it's another example of a lack.

0:38:470:38:51

I'm saying it's not his DNA.

0:38:510:38:53

Is it possible to commit a crime like this

0:38:530:38:55

and not leave any forensics?

0:38:550:38:58

I find it really difficult to believe that an assailant could

0:38:580:39:01

commit this offence and not leave traces of himself behind.

0:39:010:39:04

Obviously, he's manhandling them, he's tying up the shoelaces,

0:39:040:39:07

he's tying up the piece of the towel.

0:39:070:39:09

You'd expect him to be leaving his trace, his DNA, on these items.

0:39:090:39:15

The problem is, you have to bear in mind, this is 1996.

0:39:150:39:18

DNA testing was in its infancy.

0:39:180:39:20

You know, people now are a lot more aware of forensic science

0:39:200:39:23

and the kind of testing that can be done.

0:39:230:39:26

So, back then, you weren't so aware of it.

0:39:260:39:28

There are forensic... You know, potential for forensic links,

0:39:280:39:31

they just haven't... A person hasn't been found that links with them.

0:39:310:39:34

Hairs are a wonderful thing in forensic science,

0:39:340:39:36

-because you shed hair.

-But they're also really...

0:39:360:39:38

-Exactly. And so they're really easily transferred.

-Yes.

0:39:380:39:41

And these three victims had just been to the swimming baths.

0:39:410:39:44

Yes, exactly. I'm not saying they're necessarily the perpetrator's,

0:39:440:39:47

-but they're not Michael Stone's.

-But they're not Michael Stone's.

0:39:470:39:49

Where does this put us in...

0:39:490:39:52

-It's no more...

-..Michael Stone's case?

0:39:520:39:54

Well, basically, it's not providing any forensic link

0:39:540:39:57

to Michael Stone, still.

0:39:570:39:58

So just because there is no forensic link,

0:40:000:40:02

doesn't prove that Michael Stone didn't do it.

0:40:020:40:06

We know the crime occurred, therefore we know there's

0:40:060:40:08

an offender. That offender could have been Michael Stone,

0:40:080:40:11

it could have been someone else.

0:40:110:40:12

Based on the scientific evidence, we simply don't know.

0:40:120:40:16

What's Stone got to say about the forensics and DNA?

0:40:160:40:19

Well, the thing is, he was quite confident.

0:40:190:40:21

The officer actually puts to him on one of the very first days

0:40:210:40:24

that he was interviewed, you know, "We're trying to get to the bottom

0:40:240:40:28

"of a very serious double murder."

0:40:280:40:29

Stone says this. "I'm confident it's going to come back, and it ain't me.

0:40:290:40:33

"You've had my mouth swab, as well.

0:40:330:40:35

"I've given it, and I'm confident it's going to come back,

0:40:350:40:37

"it won't be me."

0:40:370:40:39

'They said, "We've put the hair under the microscope."

0:40:420:40:44

'I said, "I guarantee you, you'll see that it's not me,

0:40:440:40:48

'"it can't be me."

0:40:480:40:49

'I was confident. I knew straightaway, as soon as they said

0:40:490:40:52

'there was hairs on the body and that, I knew it wasn't mine,

0:40:520:40:55

'you know what I mean? But I was confident and bold with my answers

0:40:550:40:59

'all the time, because I knew that it wasn't, you know...

0:40:590:41:02

'Cos I knew I hadn't been there.

0:41:020:41:04

'And I said, "Take my hair, take my DNA and that.

0:41:040:41:08

'"That'll show you."

0:41:080:41:09

'I was keen to give it, you know?'

0:41:090:41:11

I've dealt with cases where there has been no forensic link.

0:41:140:41:16

That is a huge disappointment.

0:41:190:41:22

It would be a huge disappointment as an SIO.

0:41:220:41:25

The police were running out of time, and had to charge Stone,

0:41:280:41:31

or release him.

0:41:310:41:33

They had no evidence directly linking him to the murders,

0:41:330:41:36

but they did have evidence of other unrelated crimes.

0:41:360:41:39

Stone was charged with those,

0:41:410:41:42

and remanded in prison while the investigation continued.

0:41:420:41:46

It's been ages since I've been down here.

0:41:530:41:55

In the weeks that followed, he was visited regularly in prison

0:41:550:41:58

by his sister, Barbara.

0:41:580:42:00

I worried about Mick, and what would happen to him in prison

0:42:010:42:06

as somebody who was thought of as somebody who'd killed children.

0:42:060:42:10

That's quite bad, in the prison system.

0:42:100:42:12

The media were showing a lot of interest in everything

0:42:130:42:18

to do with our family life,

0:42:180:42:20

and everybody was being led to believe...

0:42:200:42:23

that he did it.

0:42:230:42:24

Everybody else hated him.

0:42:250:42:27

The public hated him.

0:42:270:42:28

Even the once-a-week trips to court -

0:42:280:42:32

I saw a crowd had gathered and they were all throwing rocks

0:42:320:42:36

at the van.

0:42:360:42:37

That was probably the lowest point, I think.

0:42:430:42:45

But, nevertheless, the back of my mind, I thought,

0:42:470:42:49

"It won't last for long."

0:42:490:42:50

He would come home, and, therefore, it wouldn't be a problem any more.

0:42:510:42:54

While Michael Stone was on remand in prison,

0:42:580:43:00

police finally had their breakthrough.

0:43:000:43:02

A prisoner named Damien Daley came forward,

0:43:040:43:07

claiming Stone had confessed to the killings in graphic detail

0:43:070:43:11

during a conversation they were having via a central heating pipe

0:43:110:43:15

connecting their cells.

0:43:150:43:17

I was, sort of, like, intrigued to hear what he did have to say,

0:43:200:43:23

even though it was sickening and frightening.

0:43:230:43:25

Something was just, sort of, like, drawing me to the

0:43:260:43:29

actual conversation, you know, listening to it.

0:43:290:43:31

Basically, I didn't like what I was hearing.

0:43:330:43:35

It was like being told a horror story.

0:43:350:43:37

Daley's statement was the evidence police needed to make their case.

0:43:390:43:43

And on the 20th of October 1997, Michael Stone was charged

0:43:460:43:50

with the murders of Lin and Megan Russell

0:43:500:43:54

and the attempted murder of Josie.

0:43:540:43:56

-REPORTER:

-The man accused of murdering Lin Russell

0:44:070:44:09

and her six-year-old daughter, Megan, has gone on trial.

0:44:090:44:13

One year later, the trial of Michael Stone

0:44:130:44:16

began at Maidstone Crown Court in Kent.

0:44:160:44:19

It's the most crowded courtroom I've ever been in.

0:44:190:44:22

You had to have a ticket to get in,

0:44:220:44:24

cos there was such massive interest.

0:44:240:44:26

You could have said it was the hottest ticket in town.

0:44:260:44:31

They were so many people here.

0:44:310:44:33

Every national paper had at least one reporter here.

0:44:330:44:36

Every morning, there would be the photographers' ballet

0:44:360:44:39

of trying to get the van shot.

0:44:390:44:41

-REPORTER:

-In custody - the 38-year-old man

0:44:470:44:49

accused of murdering a mother

0:44:490:44:51

and her daughter and attempting to kill a third member of the family.

0:44:510:44:55

You're sitting there, and they bring him up

0:44:570:44:59

out of the cells for the first time, you know, you do look at him.

0:44:590:45:02

You do want to see what this guy looks like.

0:45:020:45:04

And there's a lot of anticipation and a lot of suspense.

0:45:040:45:07

Everybody wanted somebody to be guilty of this,

0:45:070:45:10

because it was so horrible.

0:45:100:45:11

Opening the prosecution, Anne Rafferty QC

0:45:130:45:16

said that although witnesses would be called,

0:45:160:45:18

there was no scientific evidence to link him to the scene

0:45:180:45:21

of the crime.

0:45:210:45:22

The theory was that Stone had travelled to Chillenden

0:45:250:45:28

to feed his drug habit, by committing a robbery...

0:45:280:45:31

..during which the Russell family were attacked.

0:45:330:45:36

The case was mostly circumstantial,

0:45:380:45:40

but there were now three prisoners testifying about what Stone had

0:45:400:45:44

allegedly said in jail.

0:45:440:45:46

Mark Jennings and Barry Thompson

0:45:470:45:51

claimed he'd suggested to each of them an involvement in the crimes.

0:45:510:45:55

But the Crown's key witness was Damien Daley.

0:45:560:45:59

Stephen Kamlish QC is examining Damien Daley's testimony.

0:46:040:46:08

He says Stone started confessing to him through a pipe in the wall.

0:46:100:46:15

And this is what he said...

0:46:150:46:16

I'm going to summarise, but I'll read out some of the bits in full.

0:46:160:46:20

"On Tuesday the 23rd of September 1997, about 8pm,

0:46:200:46:25

"I was alone in my cell when I became aware of a prisoner

0:46:250:46:28

"in a cell next to me.

0:46:280:46:29

"Michael Stone talked about smashing an egg,

0:46:300:46:34

"and that the inside was mush.

0:46:340:46:36

"He then said, "I tied them up with the towels,

0:46:390:46:42

"but I didn't need to, because they were out of the game."

0:46:420:46:44

And then he got the impression that Stone was actually getting off

0:46:500:46:54

on telling this story.

0:46:540:46:56

"He said the towels were wet,

0:46:580:46:59

"and mentioned something about shoelaces.

0:46:590:47:02

Then he talked about the dog barking, and he told

0:47:030:47:07

Stone to shut up, because he was sickened by what he was hearing.

0:47:070:47:11

And he said, "I told him, "I'll tell the screws what you said.""

0:47:110:47:14

So that is Daley's story.

0:47:140:47:17

Powerful stuff, powerful stuff.

0:47:180:47:20

-REPORTER:

-The lawyer defending Michael Stone has told the court

0:47:230:47:25

that the prosecution's case relies on evidence from what he called

0:47:250:47:28

"a bunch of convicts."

0:47:280:47:30

It was now up to Stone to decide whether to take the stand

0:47:310:47:35

and defend himself against the prisoner's claims.

0:47:350:47:38

The decision whether to give evidence or not

0:47:400:47:42

is clearly a vital decision in any trial.

0:47:420:47:46

Particularly in one as important as this.

0:47:470:47:50

Daley was quite a consistent witness

0:47:520:47:55

in the sense that he wouldn't be budged from his story.

0:47:550:47:59

In all these cases, it's only his word against Michael Stone's.

0:47:590:48:03

There was only one person who could speak to that,

0:48:030:48:07

other than the witness for the prosecution,

0:48:070:48:09

and that was Michael Stone himself.

0:48:090:48:11

-REPORTER:

-Lawyers acting for Michael Stone,

0:48:130:48:15

the man accused of the Russell murders in Kent more than

0:48:150:48:17

two years ago, say he will not go into the witness box.

0:48:170:48:20

Why didn't we hear from Stone?

0:48:240:48:26

The impact on the jury of not...

0:48:260:48:29

-Not denying it.

-..not hearing from him, I mean, it's a massive risk.

0:48:290:48:32

-Not having his day in court.

-It's a massive risk, isn't it?

0:48:320:48:34

-Yeah, course it is.

-The real question the jury were going

0:48:340:48:37

to be asking themselves is -

0:48:370:48:38

all the other evidence is circumstantial evidence,

0:48:380:48:41

so it may or may not be him.

0:48:410:48:43

So the one thing the jury wanted to hear

0:48:430:48:46

was his account of not having confessed to Daley. Right?

0:48:460:48:49

That is the reason why he ought to have given evidence, to deny it.

0:48:510:48:55

You want to hear what his response is.

0:48:550:48:57

You want to see the look in his eye when he says, "I'm not guilty."

0:48:570:49:00

You want to hear that and you want to see it.

0:49:000:49:02

What about the impact on the jury of not seeing Stone defending himself?

0:49:020:49:07

I would infer that there's something to hide,

0:49:070:49:09

otherwise they'd be saying, "This wasn't me,

0:49:090:49:12

"and I certainly didn't make that confession to him.

0:49:120:49:15

"He's lying."

0:49:150:49:16

The decision is always made by the defendant and not by his lawyers.

0:49:210:49:26

It has to be his decision, whether to give evidence or not.

0:49:270:49:30

I found it very easy to form a view early on

0:49:300:49:35

that he would be a disastrous witness.

0:49:350:49:37

-MICHAEL STONE:

-'I did very, very, very much

0:49:400:49:42

'want to defend myself.

0:49:420:49:43

'I wanted to scream it out.

0:49:440:49:46

'You know, when they said to me, "Did you confess to Damien Daley

0:49:490:49:52

'"through the pipe?" I would go, "No, of course I never.

0:49:520:49:56

'And as soon as they started going, "Yes, you did, you did,

0:49:560:49:58

'"we know you did, he said you did," I would have just lost my rag.

0:49:580:50:02

'I would have just lost my rag. I would have just started screaming

0:50:020:50:05

'at the prosecution, "You're setting me up, you dirty load

0:50:050:50:07

'"of corrupt bastards." I would have started screaming at them,

0:50:070:50:10

'and then I would have come across like a nutcase.

0:50:100:50:12

'Clegg said, "You will come across exactly like the

0:50:120:50:15

'"sort of person that's done this crime.

0:50:150:50:17

'"Like a nutcase."'

0:50:170:50:18

After 14 days, the trial was now over.

0:50:230:50:26

You can see the jurors on the other side, and they're there,

0:50:300:50:33

sitting in front of you.

0:50:330:50:34

And you know that they're going to decide whether he goes to prison for

0:50:340:50:38

the rest of his life, or not.

0:50:380:50:40

-REPORTER:

-The jury in the trial of Michael Stone has gone

0:50:410:50:43

in to consider its verdict. The judge finished his summing up

0:50:430:50:46

this morning and told the jury not to hurry in making their decision.

0:50:460:50:49

After deliberating over two days, the jury returned its verdict.

0:50:540:50:59

-REPORTER:

-Michael Stone has been found guilty of murdering

0:51:040:51:06

Lin Russell and her daughter, Megan, and trying to murder

0:51:060:51:08

her other daughter, Josie.

0:51:080:51:10

-REPORTER:

-Michael Stone - heroin addict,

0:51:170:51:20

a man with a violent personality disorder,

0:51:200:51:23

a criminal record, now a convicted killer.

0:51:230:51:26

The judge told him, "There can't be anyone in this country

0:51:260:51:29

"who does not understand the horror of these offences."

0:51:290:51:32

At that point Stone shouted out, "It wasn't me, Your Honour!

0:51:320:51:35

"I didn't do it!"

0:51:350:51:37

-REPORTER:

-So tonight, Stone starts three life sentences for murder.

0:51:390:51:42

I heard the guilty verdict,

0:51:530:51:56

I actually couldn't believe it.

0:51:560:51:58

It's like a big emotional kind of pain, in your heart, really.

0:51:580:52:02

I saw Mick, and Mick was going, "I didn't do it!

0:52:030:52:06

"It wasn't me! I didn't do it, Your Honour!"

0:52:060:52:08

And there was, like, tears in his eyes.

0:52:080:52:10

And I think my arm went out, and there was tears in mine.

0:52:100:52:13

I just wanted to maintain a bit of self-respect and dignity

0:52:150:52:18

for Mick, really.

0:52:180:52:19

But from then on, I made a determined effort

0:52:230:52:26

that I wasn't the sister of a murderer.

0:52:260:52:28

I was the sister of a convicted murderer,

0:52:280:52:30

and the two things are something entirely different.

0:52:300:52:33

But within 24 hours of the verdict, there was a dramatic turn of events.

0:52:360:52:41

One of the three alleged cell confessions they used

0:52:530:52:57

in the first trial - Thompson - subsequently admitted

0:52:570:53:00

that it was all false.

0:53:000:53:01

He admitted, voluntarily, without being pressured,

0:53:030:53:06

that he lied about the confession.

0:53:060:53:09

So he actually contacted a journalist

0:53:090:53:11

after the first conviction to say,

0:53:110:53:14

"What I said wasn't true."

0:53:140:53:16

And the second prisoner who received...

0:53:160:53:20

said a confession, was a guy called Jennings,

0:53:200:53:23

who it turned out had been paid £5,000, via his sister,

0:53:230:53:29

by The Sun, with the promise of another 10,000 to come.

0:53:290:53:33

With two out of the three of the prisoners discredited,

0:53:390:53:42

Michael Stone's defence team lodged an appeal.

0:53:420:53:44

-REPORTER:

-The Crown had accepted that one of their key witnesses

0:53:450:53:48

in the original trial had lied.

0:53:480:53:51

For this reason alone, the appeal court judges said they

0:53:510:53:54

were minded to allow the appeal.

0:53:540:53:56

Stone's conviction was overturned and a retrial ordered.

0:53:580:54:03

In the eyes of the law, he was innocent once again.

0:54:030:54:05

But there was some evidence that the jury never got to hear.

0:54:160:54:19

Buried within the case files is a statement taken after

0:54:190:54:23

Stone first became a suspect.

0:54:230:54:25

It's from a psychiatric nurse,

0:54:260:54:28

part of the team that raised concerns after

0:54:280:54:30

the Crimewatch programme.

0:54:300:54:31

The testimony was never heard in court.

0:54:340:54:37

I think we should just set out some of the things that

0:54:390:54:43

his psychiatric nurse says.

0:54:430:54:45

She said she only started seeing him in October '95,

0:54:450:54:48

so that's, what, nine months before the killing?

0:54:480:54:51

So this isn't historic, in that sense.

0:54:510:54:54

And this is what she said -

0:54:540:54:55

"Michael's behaviour was increasingly agitated and voluble,

0:54:550:54:58

"and he was not amenable to reasoning."

0:54:580:55:01

In fact, this is on the 4th of July '96,

0:55:010:55:04

five days before the Chillenden murders.

0:55:040:55:07

So, "Michael's behaviour was increasingly agitated,

0:55:070:55:10

"focusing much of his angst towards a previous probation officer.

0:55:100:55:14

"The intensity of Michael's anger increased,

0:55:140:55:17

"followed by a series of explicit threats to harm or kill this person,

0:55:170:55:21

"and his family."

0:55:210:55:23

"He was, by now, shouting various threats of violence,

0:55:290:55:33

"causing me to fear for my own safety,

0:55:330:55:35

"and that of the probation officer and his family.

0:55:350:55:38

"He asserted and emphasised his dangerousness,

0:55:400:55:43

"suggesting he's too violent to be accommodated in prison

0:55:430:55:47

"and would need to be admitted to Broadmoor Hospital,

0:55:470:55:50

"with notions of achieving fame and glory for his crimes."

0:55:500:55:53

It's made the hairs on my arms come up. It's just...

0:55:570:55:59

It's so cold.

0:56:010:56:03

So this would have been four or five days before the killings,

0:56:030:56:05

where he was so aroused that he started shouting

0:56:050:56:07

about what a danger he was to others.

0:56:070:56:10

To me, it puts him as...

0:56:100:56:13

-..prime suspect.

-The number one suspect.

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

0:56:150:56:17

On the 4th of July, which was the last time she saw him

0:56:200:56:25

before the killing, she says this -

0:56:250:56:27

"Michael's behaviour was increasingly agitated and voluble,

0:56:270:56:32

"and he was not amenable to reasoning.

0:56:320:56:34

"Followed by a series of explicit threats to harm or kill

0:56:340:56:37

"the probation officer and his family."

0:56:370:56:40

To have this much uncontrollable anger,

0:56:400:56:43

this begins to change your perception of him.

0:56:430:56:47

And none of this actually indicates that he has done this crime

0:56:470:56:51

that we're talking about.

0:56:510:56:53

None of them prove this crime at all.

0:56:530:56:55

This case, and piecing together who done it,

0:56:550:56:58

is about the group of people included within

0:56:580:57:01

the killer's profile.

0:57:010:57:03

Anybody that says, "I want to go out and kill people,

0:57:030:57:05

"and I don't care about it," you'd say was in the broad group of people

0:57:050:57:09

who might have committed this crime.

0:57:090:57:11

Cos everybody reading about this crime would say,

0:57:110:57:13

"Who the hell could do that?"

0:57:130:57:15

It's a crime of a psychopath.

0:57:150:57:17

-MICHAEL STONE:

-'So far as my probation officer goes, right...

0:57:200:57:23

'Obviously, like, he...

0:57:260:57:28

'He, he...

0:57:280:57:29

'He has decided, right, that...

0:57:290:57:32

'Me and my girlfriend, Rachel,

0:57:320:57:34

'right, were in a relationship together,

0:57:340:57:36

'and he's decided that we're a bad influence on each other, right?

0:57:360:57:42

'Then I said, "How would he like it if I did things to him?"

0:57:420:57:46

'And I said, "That fucking bastard's been up there,

0:57:460:57:49

'"and splitting me up with my girlfriend.

0:57:490:57:51

'"How would he like it if I go round his house and fucking kill him,

0:57:510:57:54

'"kill his fucking family, and burn his fucking house down?"

0:57:540:57:57

'Do you know what I mean?'

0:57:570:57:58

-REPORTER:

-The jury has begun hearing evidence in the second trial

0:58:050:58:08

of Michael Stone.

0:58:080:58:09

If the jury believed Daley, he goes down.

0:58:100:58:13

If they don't, Stone walks.

0:58:130:58:16

She does remember, distinctly, blood on his top.

0:58:160:58:20

I mean, you've got the worst crime in Kent,

0:58:210:58:23

and the principal exhibit goes missing.

0:58:230:58:26

I'm angry at this situation.

0:58:270:58:29

You're on the jury.

0:58:290:58:31

Is Stone guilty?

0:58:310:58:33

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