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I feel I don't want to talk about the past.

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OK. Is it OK?

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Yeah.

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# God is good to me

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# God is good to me

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# He holds my hands and helps me stand

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# God is good to me

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# He hold my hands and help me stand

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# God is good to me. #

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# Ha-ah-ah

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# Hallelujah. #

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Long Headlam.

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Here we go.

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I came upon Byker, really, by chance, in 1968.

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Arrived on top of the hill on a Saturday morning

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and saw the streets full of people, music playing,

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amazing communal atmosphere and I just fell in love with the place.

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I decided I wanted to live there

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and I ended up just walking round knocking on the doors,

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asking if anybody knew of a flat coming vacant and eventually one did.

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So, I moved in and lived in Byker for seven years.

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I started photographing it because I thought it was such an amazing place

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and I wanted to tell everybody.

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And my way of telling things is through photographs.

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I would often just wander around with a camera

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and I would photograph children playing.

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In those days, you could.

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Although I didn't set out to do a long-term documentation of Byker,

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it did become that.

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And I decided to photograph families in their homes.

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By then, of course, I knew my neighbours pretty well, anyway.

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Or they knew me.

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'She comes from Finland, such a beautiful place.

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'Nice and clean.

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'And she chooses to live in Byker!'

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They knew what I was doing in Byker,

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so I wasn't a complete eccentric, any longer.

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'She goes around taking photographs and gives 'em away for nowt!'

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I'm trying to steady your nerves for you a little.

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'But I also felt the women,'

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certainly, took me under their collective wing.

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'But she's alreet. Canny, aye.'

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I think they felt that I was a little bit lost, maybe.

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'Poor little bairn. So far from home.'

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BUZZER

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BUZZER

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What do I do? I can't get in.

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'In this project, it's definitely by the invitation

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'of the person in the picture.'

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Oh, excuse me.

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Thank you.

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'I'm not going in just to be a fly on the wall.

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'But I'm really hoping

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'that the initiative comes from the subject.

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'Of course, that's a horrible word, "subject". That's just saying

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'what I don't want to do, which is to subject anyone to this process.'

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17?!

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'But I would like the relationship to get to the point

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'where I'm invited into their lives,

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'then they offer me whatever it is that they want to offer.'

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-Excuse me.

-Uh-huh?

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Do you have any idea where number seven is,

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because it seems to be missing on this floor?

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According to this, you've got a seven here, a seven here

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and a seven here and, obviously, they'll have to look into that, like.

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They've put the wrong thing on.

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-Three number sevens.

-Mmm.

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OK. Start again.

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-OK.

-Thank you.

-No bother.

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-Hello.

-Hello. Yeah? She's gone now.

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She's gone now, yes, sorry.

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-Oh, have I missed her?

-Hello.

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She's gone.

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When people asked me, "What are you doing it for?",

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I started thinking,

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"Well, maybe I could make a book one day."

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And once I saw that it was beginning to look like

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a documentation of a community in a wider sense, I also began to feel

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I owe it to the people who I have been involving in this project,

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a record of their own community.

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So, I'll show you a little bit about my project.

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Yes, all right.

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-So you know what you're letting yourself in for.

-Yes!

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You can always change your mind if you think,

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I don't like what she's doing!

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That was Byker, long before you came here.

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The history, yeah?

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It's changing Byker.

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Really changing.

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That was how the old streets were.

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They used to come down from the hill all the way.

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-Up?

-To Newcastle, yes. Yeah.

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They change.

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Yeah!

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Have you had any thoughts about the photo?

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You did talk about praying.

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Yeah.

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And I was wondering whether that's something

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you might want to show us?

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Or...is that too private?

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Or is it something that you...

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-Because religion is obviously very important.

-Yes.

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Is there any other way that we could

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show that religion is important to you, in a picture?

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OK, like a Koran.

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-You've got a Koran?

-Yes.

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I'm losing the spokes of my

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beautiful, home-made reflector stand here.

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CRACK OF GLASS

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Oh, God!

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It's all right.

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It's like a walking disaster.

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'It doesn't always work out the first time.

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'Sometimes it just doesn't work out at all.

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'But there's not really that many complete failures on my part.'

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I don't know if this is going to work without the missing spoke.'

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LAUGHTER

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CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS

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They're proper lights.

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Yeah. I think it looks nice with a bit

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of bright light coming from there.

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CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS

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SHE RECITES FROM KORAN

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It's like singing.

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This is Koran.

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Byker was demolished in order to make way for the new redevelopment.

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All my neighbours, all my friends there, were dispersed.

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'I used to go to the Hare and Hounds pub at the bottom of my street.

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'I remember the first time I went there, there was singing going on'

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and, as soon as I sat down, a drink arrived on my table.

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I didn't know who had ordered it.

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There were just smiling faces round the room.

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Just, you know, my neighbours.

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Just their way of saying hello.

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But one place that has remained is Pam's Hairdressers,

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where women who were moved out of Byker 30 years ago

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still come back to. And where I'm still remembered.

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Sirkka. Sirkka... I say Reeka.

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You're doing very well!

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'My hair's very fine, like a baby hair.

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'Old fashioned.

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'From the '50s it was.

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'I had this hairstyle.

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'So it's a good thing for me Pam's here.

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'She's only one that can do this style.

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'I mean, other ones can't do it.

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'The young ones haven't been taught to do this, you see?'

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-Oh, you can't see, can you, though?

-I wish I could.

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Oh, yes.

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Is that right, then?

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So, where you going tonight, then?

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Nowhere. Stopping in.

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I thought that what would be nice, now that the old community has been dispersed,

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I could play a little part in introducing people to each other.

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I would invite people, in a way, to put themselves and their lives into just one picture.

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And then something totally surprising might happen

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that would be completely beyond my imagination.

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You seem a little tired.

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Have you had a tough day?

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So, what do you think?

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It's nice, it's very nice.

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Everything is nice.

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Is nice one.

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Maybe, following on what you were saying last time

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-about your concern for the children.

-Yeah.

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You know, how westernised they've become and you would like them

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-to retain some of the values that you have.

-Mm-hmm.

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-Yes!

-I'm scared for my kids.

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Every day, I saw the kid is coming out with this.

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"Oh, my God. Help my kids, help!"

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I blow for you, OK?

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Especially Byker.

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You sit down smoking,

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drink, talking, the people, "You bastard..."

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Something like that. It's a different culture here.

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-That's nice, lovely light, actually.

-Am I gonna get ice cream?

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-Yes, I get you it tomorrow, OK?

-Do you want to be in the picture?

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That's OK. That's OK, Maryam.

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That's OK.

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Oh, damn!

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I'm missing all the nice moments.

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BOY SNEEZES

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Bless you.

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I draw inspiration from Renaissance painting.

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There you have tableaux of people's lives

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that are often mostly wealthy people, of course,

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who would commission a portrait that would show their status in society

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and their standing and their wealth

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and their servants or dogs or wives or whatever.

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I thought I would love to create portraits in these tiny little

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Byker flats, that afford that dignity to people and that self-expression

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and that feeling that they are in charge, this is how they want to present themselves to the world.

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Come on, my baby.

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Come see how mammy is.

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Oh, what a pretty girl you are, oh!

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You're gonna have your picture. You are.

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Come here, me puppy.

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There, my baby. There she is.

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Ah!

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What a good girl.

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Aren't you a good girl for mam?

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What a lovely girl.

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Oh, you're a lovely girl, aren't you?

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Good girl, come and eat this, then.

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Come and eat this, while it's nice and fresh.

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Here, baby.

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Come and see. There, on there, look. On there, for you.

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There.

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There.

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Come, come.

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There's room for you to get by. Room for a bus.

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See, she's eating the pieces I've put on the mat. Now come on, eat them up.

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There's a good girl. While they're nice and fresh.

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She's away for a drink.

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Wakey, wakey!

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# If I had

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# My way

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# You'd never grow old

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# The garden in May

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# Any day

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# You would reign all alone

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# Like a queen on a throne

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# If I had

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# My way. #

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I photographed a little girl with her grandmother, in a shop doorway in the 1970s.

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When I was going round in the new Byker, 35 years later,

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the mother of the little girl pulls me up and shouts, "Hello, Sirkka.

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"Do you remember me? I'm Audrey".

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And I got to photograph her with Kelly, the little girl,

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who is now a mother herself.

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Stevie was 16 when I photographed him, waiting to take his mother home from the factory where she worked.

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I captioned him in my book as a skinhead.

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Wrongly, as it turned out.

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Then, I was photographing Bill.

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Hello, Bill!

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I left the door open, cos I was upstairs.

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'And once he heard about my project, he said...'

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Hello, son. All right?

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"Oh, my daughter was in your first book!"

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And he brought out the book and showed me, and, of course,

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his daughter was Angela, who lived in my street.

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She was just a teenager then and she had her baby on her arms, Mel.

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I had no idea there was going to be this link.

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I couldn't tell how many grandkids, great-grandkids I've got.

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They all come to see me, clean the place, look after me.

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I've had a wonderful life, loved every minute of it.

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What a lucky bugger I am.

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Many happy returns, you little old bugger!

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-God bless.

-Many of them.

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I'm not getting a kiss of you. I don't want a bloody kiss of you!

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You're not supposed to tell people!

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OK, the thing is, your model hasn't turned up.

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She's been in a fight, she's got a black eye, she hasn't turned up.

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-So, you are left to do it yourself.

-So I've got to model.

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And if I turned like that and I went.

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There.

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I don't like that one.

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-Have you thought about it?

-Yes, I have.

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It's just not me. Isn't it not me?

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Ah, now you're contradicting yourself here.

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Because you remember the last time you did say

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that you didn't like it because it was you.

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I know what you mean, but I wanted to be, like, more...

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The red picture's more me.

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Look at it.

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I don't want to look like that. I look all lost and I don't

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want to be looking like that. I want to be looking like this.

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But this is just a fashion shot.

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It's not, though. It's not like that, really, cos it doesn't matter what I had on, it was just that would be...

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-I like it.

-Well, you look...

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I look thinking there, as well.

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-You look... Hang on.

-I'm not even smiling.

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-You're grumpy.

-I look thinking.

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What about the other ones inside?

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-You mean that one? That one?

-No.

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I like that one. And you can see it all there. I think it's lovely.

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-You're not happy there.

-I'm thinking.

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And that's what you wanted. I was thinking.

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-I look as though I'm a cracker there.

-No, you don't.

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You don't. Look, I don't see what you see in there, at all.

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Well, what do you see?

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Like you're trying to look into your future.

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And the difference to me between

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these ones and that one is that these ones,

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you could just look at them as a pretty girl in nice clothes.

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They would be easily passed over as pictures.

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That's what this picture does for me.

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It actually is like the beginning of a story.

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Right. I understand what you mean about everything,

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-but every time I look at it, I think...

-I just want to know you.

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-This is the picture that makes you...

-I know what you mean.

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You want to get to know this person. It's compelling.

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It's intriguing and...

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it just draws you into it.

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You know, you can't take your eyes of it. You think,

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"I really want to know this story, what your life is about."

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-OK.

-Or will be.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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I know where you're getting to.

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-I do understand.

-Yeah?

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You can use it.

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I'll regret it when I see it.

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-No, you won't.

-Oh, hello.

-Hiya.

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-OK. Thank you.

-OK.

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That's brilliant. I don't think you'll regret it.

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-God.

-You won't regret it.

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Right.

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-Is this my story?

-That's the story.

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Do you want to just have a look at it?

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# So, why won't they understand?

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# Oh, why won't they understand? #

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# I'm sure, but isn't it sad?

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# But who needs you? #

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But, bless her, I stayed with her.

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I stayed with her.

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And I've never been right since.

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It's a month yesterday.

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When I go out, I come in,

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I still expect to see her there, wagging her little tail at the door.

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But it's not going to happen, is it?

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And she made you happy.

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Mm-hmm. She made me very happy.

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I've even got a bit of her fur.

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Oh, you know, Sirkka, that I loved this little dog.

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# I wanna be around

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# To pick up the pieces

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# When somebody breaks your heart

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# Somebody twice as smart as me

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# And that's when I'll find revenge is sweet

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# And I will sit applaudin' from a front row seat

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# When somebody breaks your heart

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# Like you broke mine.

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# I know that living with you, baby

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# Was sometimes hard

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# But I'm willing to give it another try... #

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CLAPPING AND SINGING

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SHE SINGS IN HER NATIVE LANGUAGE

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SHE SINGS IN HER NATIVE LANGUAGE

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SHE SINGS IN HER NATIVE LANGUAGE

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SHE SINGS IN HER NATIVE LANGUAGE

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MIDDLE-EASTERN MUSIC PLAYS

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My son's friend died during the bombs.

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He was escaping with his mother

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and he was running...away.

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Then, one bomb fell

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and was very near, and a balcony fell over him.

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And the mother was behind.

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She couldn't move, she saw her son -

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he was killed.

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Well, I didn't tell Hadi.

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SHE SIGHS

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OK.

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I didn't tell him because I didn't want to put more pressure on him.

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I thought I might tell him that...he went somewhere,

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but unfortunately he saw it on TV.

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My mum don't let me watch it!

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When we came to England, Hadi started showing more aggressiveness

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and he wanted to go back.

0:33:550:33:58

He was begging to go back to Lebanon.

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He wanted to fight.

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He was transferred to a psychiatrist because...

0:34:120:34:14

..he had like a nervous breakdown.

0:34:170:34:19

He was starting to imagine things

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like birds talking to him.

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And just sit in the corner of his room.

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LITTLE GIRL WHINES

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SHE SPEAKS IN HER NATIVE LANGUAGE

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-LITTLE GIRL:

-Smiley!

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# If you're happy and you know it Clap your hands

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TOGETHER: # If you're happy and you know it

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# Clap your hands

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# If you're happy and you know it

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# Then you really want to show it

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# If you're happy and you know it Clap your hands. #

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WOMAN SPEAKS IN HER NATIVE LANGUAGE

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One!

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Hello!

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Oh, Mongolian music as well!

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How are you?

0:35:290:35:31

I'm fine, thank you. Cooking, busy...

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Shall I put apron on you?

0:35:380:35:41

When I began my new project,

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there were, I think, 28 languages spoken in Byker

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with refugees from all over the world.

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Byker has become one of the major reception centres in the UK for asylum seekers from Africa.

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LOTS OF CHATTER AND MUSIC

0:36:070:36:10

About time! SHE LAUGHS

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CONGREGATION SING IN THEIR NATIVE LANGUAGE

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MANY PEOPLE PRAY ALOUD AT ONCE

0:37:090:37:12

I lived one part of my life where...I couldn't go out.

0:37:410:37:45

I couldn't, um...

0:37:460:37:48

go out down the town. I'd feel this force in me, this force of fear.

0:37:480:37:53

And it would be feeding me all these thoughts of like,

0:37:530:37:56

"Oh, this might happen to you or that might happen."

0:37:560:37:59

And it was "ifs" and "buts" and fears,

0:37:590:38:00

and all these scenarios that go on in your mind before you go off and do something.

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With what happened to me asking Jesus into my life and...

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..after a while, my life started changing, totally started changing.

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Then having the supernatural experiences and all, and knowing that it was real.

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So your self-image is just an idea.

0:38:200:38:23

And it's what you take from life and it forms that image.

0:38:250:38:29

We came to Byker... only fear in our heart,

0:38:340:38:39

myself and my daughter.

0:38:390:38:42

Because we struggle all the way

0:38:420:38:44

to save ourselves and now we are in a new place,

0:38:440:38:47

we don't know entirely anything about the place.

0:38:470:38:50

It's the first...

0:38:500:38:52

bad experience, meaning the first time...

0:38:520:38:56

Who is the person trying to enter inside the house?

0:38:580:39:01

That's a very bad experience.

0:39:010:39:05

We can survive anyhow,

0:39:050:39:08

but anybody tried to attack us or...

0:39:080:39:10

It's not me, for me it's my daughter.

0:39:100:39:12

'I'd have the prints in my box of everybody I'd photographed.

0:39:390:39:42

'And each time I met a new person I would open this box and say,

0:39:420:39:47

' "Look, these people are all living here, too.

0:39:470:39:50

' "They are your neighbours." '

0:39:500:39:52

'And, of course, almost everywhere I went people would say, "Oh, does she live here?"

0:39:540:39:59

'And in that way, you know,

0:39:590:40:02

'I was already carrying an ever-increasing number of new acquaintances for people.'

0:40:020:40:08

-CONGREGATION:

-# This is my story

0:40:090:40:13

# This is my song

0:40:130:40:17

# Praising my saviour

0:40:170:40:21

# All the day long. #

0:40:210:40:24

It's a great encouragement that today other believers, even from the other side of the world,

0:40:240:40:30

have come into this part of the country.

0:40:300:40:32

Where we sent missionaries

0:40:320:40:34

out to the Congo and places over there,

0:40:340:40:37

we can now welcome back maybe those who are maybe the grandsons...

0:40:370:40:43

Are you from Africa?

0:40:430:40:45

# Count your blessings See what God has done

0:40:470:40:52

# Count your blessings Name them one by one... #

0:40:520:40:57

And here we have a little baby, and we welcome him in here,

0:40:570:41:01

and we present him to all here tonight as a witness

0:41:010:41:04

that the desire of the parents is that they will indeed bring him up

0:41:040:41:09

in the fear and nurture of the Lord.

0:41:090:41:12

# Till we meet again

0:41:120:41:15

# Till we meet, till we meet

0:41:150:41:21

# Till we meet at Jesus' feet Till we meet... #

0:41:210:41:26

So, that was the bribery to get them to start to go.

0:42:280:42:31

When I say...

0:42:310:42:33

At Tommy's house, after his funeral, I found the photograph

0:42:330:42:39

that I had taken of him at the Mission Hall.

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It was lying there on the mantelpiece, corners curling.

0:42:420:42:46

He'd taken it everywhere with him and shown it to everyone he met.

0:42:480:42:53

I was suddenly struck by this thought,

0:42:530:42:56

"He forgot to take it with him."

0:42:560:42:58

SHE SINGS IN HER NATIVE LANGUAGE

0:43:100:43:13

The only person I actually just accosted in the street was Gerel and Ariunaa.

0:43:210:43:27

They had such a feeling of benevolence about them

0:43:270:43:32

that eventually I just walked up to them and I introduced myself.

0:43:320:43:37

And they immediately invited me in,

0:43:370:43:40

and sat me down at the kitchen table.

0:43:400:43:43

And by the time I had explained what I was doing, Gerel said,

0:43:430:43:48

"Oh, can we be in the book and can I make an order for it now?"

0:43:480:43:51

I am from Mongolia and...

0:43:560:44:01

we are living here about three-and-a-half years.

0:44:010:44:06

Baby. Me-me, me-me, me-me. Me, me, me.

0:44:070:44:10

In the morning,

0:44:510:44:53

about 6 o'clock,

0:44:530:44:56

somebody knocked at door.

0:44:560:44:59

When I saw them I just...

0:44:590:45:01

Straightaway I realised why they'd come.

0:45:010:45:04

First...

0:45:070:45:09

handcuffed me and took me outside and put me in the van.

0:45:090:45:15

I could hear my children and my wife screaming,

0:45:170:45:22

but I couldn't do anything because I was locked...

0:45:220:45:27

And I asked them, um...

0:45:270:45:32

"What's happening to my wife and children?"

0:45:320:45:37

But they were saying, "It's not your business, just...

0:45:370:45:43

"Just be quiet."

0:45:430:45:44

Please help me.

0:45:520:45:54

I'm like everybody see me.

0:45:540:45:57

Because the Home Office is very, very danger.

0:45:570:46:00

Every month, I go sign for Home Office. I'm thief?

0:46:000:46:03

I'm robber?

0:46:030:46:06

I don't know... Maybe Home Office think...

0:46:060:46:10

I'm a thief.

0:46:100:46:13

I come here for money, for house - no.

0:46:130:46:16

I come here not for money, not for house, just freedom.

0:46:160:46:20

Ah, Ariunaa.

0:46:590:47:00

What are you doing? What are you doing?

0:47:480:47:50

What am I doing? I have no idea what I'm doing!

0:47:520:47:54

Oh, what a fine warrior.

0:48:080:48:10

Oh! Just a moment.

0:48:100:48:13

Oh, no, no. Don't touch the hat. No.

0:48:180:48:20

Hee!

0:48:210:48:23

Oh, that was nice.

0:48:230:48:26

I'll do that again.

0:48:260:48:28

-ARIUNAA:

-It's nice, yes? You want more?

0:48:280:48:31

Hang on. I'll take... That's a nice gesture.

0:48:350:48:38

Please.

0:48:380:48:39

Please.

0:48:390:48:40

Please.

0:48:430:48:45

Wow!

0:49:000:49:02

Look!

0:49:020:49:04

Yay-yay, yay!

0:49:040:49:07

Whoa!

0:49:080:49:09

'In the beginning, my overwhelming feeling was that

0:49:090:49:13

'when I was photographing people they were making a gift of it to me.'

0:49:130:49:19

I like the shoes and... Yes, everything.

0:49:210:49:25

'By the end of the project,

0:49:250:49:28

'I also began to get the feeling

0:49:280:49:31

'that it was me who was making the gift.'

0:49:310:49:34

This will stay in his life forever.

0:49:340:49:39

My boots, mine.

0:49:390:49:40

My boots!

0:49:400:49:42

In my place,

0:49:470:49:49

I don't how to travel about.

0:49:490:49:52

But now, here, I know how to travel about.

0:49:520:49:55

I know how to take the bus,

0:49:560:49:58

I can go and come.

0:49:580:49:59

Independent, more independent here.

0:50:030:50:05

I never dream about it!

0:50:060:50:08

It's a real change, today I'm with you.

0:50:090:50:12

My mother was part of the Campbell family

0:50:540:50:57

and they all lived on the same street,

0:50:570:50:59

Kendal Street, where they were born.

0:50:590:51:01

Then, when the new Byker came in,

0:51:020:51:05

they were scattered all over the city.

0:51:050:51:08

And it broke their hearts, the sisters.

0:51:080:51:11

Um, they... You know, they said they didn't care

0:51:110:51:13

that they had hot running water,

0:51:130:51:15

they didn't care that they had an indoor toilet,

0:51:150:51:18

they didn't care about all those things.

0:51:180:51:20

They just wanted to still be together in their own world.

0:51:200:51:25

They had no control over where they were sent.

0:51:250:51:27

And er... Yeah.

0:51:270:51:30

And now it's interesting to come back to Byker,

0:52:020:52:05

which was such a white world,

0:52:050:52:07

and...I had Liberian friend came to visit me shortly after my mother died,

0:52:070:52:13

he came to console me, actually.

0:52:130:52:15

And he said, "I've been here five days..." and this is in 2001,

0:52:150:52:20

"..and I haven't seen a single black face," you know.

0:52:200:52:25

And so now I'm trying to get him to come here in a couple of weeks,

0:52:250:52:28

come up - he lives in Cardiff.

0:52:280:52:30

I said, "Because Byker's changed, you'll see other black faces now."

0:52:300:52:34

You know, "There's lots of people here from Africa."

0:52:340:52:37

So to me, that's really rich.

0:52:370:52:39

Like, I've got my Kurdish neighbour, I've got neighbours from Chechnya,

0:52:390:52:44

there was people from the Congo downstairs,

0:52:440:52:46

someone from Angola, and someone from French Congo, Edna.

0:52:460:52:53

So to me, it's perfect.

0:52:530:52:56

It's bringing the world to my doorstep.

0:52:560:52:58

Maybe I won't have to travel so much! SHE LAUGHS

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