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This programme contains some strong language | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
I'm Andrew Maxwell, a comedian. But in this series, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
I'm on a serious mission - to explore the world of the conspiracy theorist. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
Tonight, I'm in America, with five Brits who all believe | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
they've had encounters of the alien kind. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
-Hi, there. -Hello. -Brigitte, all right? | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
Hello, Brigitte. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:24 | |
'They claim to have witnessed spacecraft from other galaxies...' | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
-Andrew. -Darren. -Hello, Darren. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:28 | |
'..been attacked by UFOs...' | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
-Hello, Andrew, I'm Scott. -'..had close encounters with ETs...' | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
-How are you, man? -Yeah, good. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
Welcome onboard, man. And what's your name? | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
-Pleased to... Franky. -Franky, welcome onboard. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
'..and even believe an alien invasion is imminent.' | 0:00:39 | 0:00:44 | |
Most scientists think we are not alone in the universe, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
but, like myself, they are sceptical about claims of alien | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
visitation and government cover-ups. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
I'm taking my five companions | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
on a USA road trip to explore some | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
iconic UFO hotspots | 0:01:00 | 0:01:01 | |
and meet experts who will help me | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
refute their extraterrestrial claims. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
It's just unidentified, OK? Don't go any further than that. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
'There will be upsets...' | 0:01:11 | 0:01:12 | |
Don't. Cos now you will get me crying, now that I'm here. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
MUSIC: "Rock-A-Hula Baby" by Elvis | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
'..but lots of fun... | 0:01:18 | 0:01:19 | |
'..and outlandish behaviour.' | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
How do I survive, and then how do I defend | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
if the aliens do, kind of, you know, take the streets? | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
Fasten your seatbelts and welcome to Conspiracy Road Trip UFO. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:34 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Andrew. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
I will be your tour guide on this journey. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to Conspiracy Road Trip UFOs. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
TRIPPERS CHEER | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
'It's day one, and we are in LA. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
'Over the next few weeks, each of my fellow travellers is going to | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
'offer up a claim, which I'll try and disprove. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
'First up is Brigitte.' | 0:02:14 | 0:02:15 | |
Will you please welcome Brigitte? Give her a round of applause. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
TRIPPERS APPLAUD | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
It involved a 45-foot craft over the freeway at 10:06 at night. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:28 | |
Myself and somebody else was there, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
and I hope you get the pleasure to experience it yourselves. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
'Brigitte had her most memorable alien encounter | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
'while she was working in LA 19 years ago.' | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
What you are going to see is a reconstruction. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
This is me in the car. My friend superimposed the Holiday Inn | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
and made the spaceship. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:48 | |
And that's...to your mind's eye, that's...is that a...? | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
It's exactly what I saw. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
On a regular day in LA. | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
-There's the Holiday Inn. -OK. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
Yes, it's over there. Shit. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
OK. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
'Incredibly, Brigitte's sighting was at this busy freeway intersection.' | 0:03:11 | 0:03:16 | |
-Where were you? -In the car. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
All of a sudden, I had this silver, hard, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
solid object, which was... | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
45 foot in length, so from here to over to there. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
-The size of the road, basically? -The size of the road. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
It's gliding over the back boot of the car in front of me. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
It's then going over here, ploughing through the tops of the trees. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:43 | |
I've got my hands prised to the steering wheel, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
eyes were just watering, body felt physically sick, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
it's like, "What the hell is this thing?" | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
Has there ever been doubts in your mind? | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
I saw it, I was underneath this object. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
Even some of the other trippers are sceptical of Brigitte's account. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
I have my suspicions. I'm not 100% that I believe her. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:10 | |
It's a bit outlandish, especially on such a public place like this. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
Why haven't more people kind of seen it? | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
Whilst I'm not discrediting it, I just would've | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
assumed that there would've been kind of more witnesses. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
You know, to my mind, like, a craft the size of the road... | 0:04:20 | 0:04:25 | |
-..it would be mayhem. -But, you know what, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
what if everyone else was transfixed, the way that I was? | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
Brigitte, single mother of three, is from Devon. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
She had her first extraterrestrial encounter when she was seven. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:43 | |
Can't explain why they came to me. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
And they keep coming back to me. But...I like the fact that they do. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:51 | |
Day two. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:56 | |
With dissent and disbelief still in the air, it's time for some | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
objective science. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:01 | |
We're heading out to Mount Wilson Observatory. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
-Good morning, everyone! -Good morning. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
In lieu of Brigitte's testimony earlier, of having seen all sorts | 0:05:15 | 0:05:20 | |
of carry-on, we are going to meet a man by the name of Seth Shostak. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
TRIPPERS CHEER | 0:05:24 | 0:05:25 | |
Dr Seth Shostak is a world-renowned astronomer. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
He works for the SETI Institute... | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
..a scientific organisation whose mission is to search | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
the cosmos for signs of extraterrestrial intelligence. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
What we try and do is try | 0:05:45 | 0:05:46 | |
-and eavesdrop on signals that they might be sending our way. -OK. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
Just trying to...just trying to hear ET's radio broadcast. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
I'm sure there are a lot of planets out there that have | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
plenty of life that's not very clever, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
life that doesn't write great literature and doesn't build | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
-radio transmitters, but we're not going to hear from those guys. -No. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
Our galaxy has 200 billion stars. It probably has a trillion planets, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
-that's with a T. -Right. -That's a large number. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
Now, if this is the only planet where anything interesting | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
is happening, that makes us a miracle. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
-Right. -And one thing you learn from studying astronomy is that | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
every time you believe in miracles, you're wrong. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
Like many scientists Dr Shostak thinks that alien life exists, | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
but we just haven't seen it yet. So what does he think | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
of Brigitte's UFO encounter? | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
I had a close encounter in central Los Angeles, Brentwood. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
-It involved a 45-foot craft. -But no pictures? | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
I was in shock. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:39 | |
I think you would be also. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
You know, if I had a camera, I would still have someone ridicule me. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
Can I ask, what about the craft made you think it was extraterrestrial? | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
It was nothing that I had seen before. It had no wings. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:55 | |
It had no fuel... | 0:06:55 | 0:06:56 | |
Well, you say that, but you would've seen something like that in a movie. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
Yeah. I've seen spaceships on TV. It's all... Children's... | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
Children's TV channels - there's spaceships everywhere. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
I think that if there were compelling evidence, yes, you would | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
have tens of thousands of academics beavering away, working on that. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
If the evidence is poor, they're not going to waste their time, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
that's the thing, and the fact that they're not doing that | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
means that the evidence is poor. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:19 | |
There's not a very good case for alien visitation. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
'Dr Shostak's views make complete sense to me... | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
'..but Darren thinks something's not quite right.' | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
There are parts of space that the Hubble telescope will not | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
point at, and that's said to be under direction from NASA | 0:07:33 | 0:07:38 | |
and the military or the government. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:39 | |
For me, I think if there was a large object, I don't think | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
they would publically announce that straightaway and tell the public... | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
But who would the 'they' be? You'd be kind of the 'they', would you not? | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
We'd be among the 'they', but there'd be | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
about 10,000 astronomers who are part of the 'they'. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
The idea that they're all in some conspiracy is kind of goofy. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
There's no conspiracy to keep things secret in science. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
I picked up on his body language and his body language...his eyes | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
flicked, and they kept flicking and flicking and flicking. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
And if you read body language, that's a sign that he might not be telling us all the true facts. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
It's not something I spotted. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:14 | |
I wanted to ask the doctor, why do ordinary people like Brigitte | 0:08:15 | 0:08:20 | |
and Darren believe they've seen such extraordinary things? | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
There's something about a conspiracy that I think is very empowering. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
If you, for example, think that | 0:08:29 | 0:08:30 | |
we're being buzzed by alien spacecraft... | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
-Uh-huh. -..and those pointy-headed, nerdy scientists down at the local | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
university don't agree with you, you know something they don't know. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
-Yes. -And so there's something empowering about that. -It's a cache. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
Yeah. I think that that's understandable. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
It's time for dinner, and a chance to find out what the trippers | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
make of their close encounter with Dr Shostak. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
We're not scientists, we're just researchers, you know, | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
and it would be great for him, like, from my point of view, I think, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
if he could just open his mind a little bit more. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
To use the term open-minded, you're ultimately | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
saying people are closed-minded if they don't agree with you. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
-Well... -That sounds like, "Agree with me." | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
For you to believe that they're not being publically broadcast, | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
you must buy into a conspiracy that the 'they' - | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
government, NASA - are holding information back from you. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
-Yeah, I do. -Why would they...? | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
When someone from a...let's say a more advanced civilisation, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
from another planet, comes here and shows their face, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
we lose all power - everybody, us, the government, everyone. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
They could control everything. If they have the ability, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
-let's say, to travel here. -But if they're already here, visiting here, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
then they already control us, ipso facto. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
-You know what, I think they are really clever. -Maybe they do. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
These are real, you can see them, you can touch them. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
They're coming here, they're visiting us. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
Day three. And as we leave California and head towards Arizona, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:06 | |
it's time to turn my attention to the youngest of the group. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
Will you please welcome up to the microphone your friend, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:15 | |
-my friend, Ben! TRIPPERS: -Yay! | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
'25-year-old Ben lives in Durham and works as a barman. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
'Two years ago, Ben and his girlfriend | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
'saw something strange out of their bedroom window.' | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
And this kind of orb appeared, and this orb just exploded silently... | 0:10:29 | 0:10:34 | |
..and these kind of five or six white objects just disappeared, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
and across the night sky, literally faster than you've ever seen | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
anything travel in your entire life. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
After his UFO experience, Ben found faith in a creation theory | 0:10:50 | 0:10:55 | |
linking humans with extraterrestrials. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
Every kind of society around the world, ancient ones especially, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:05 | |
have kind of had a belief in gods. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
Who's to say that these guys weren't like living, breathing, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
flesh and blood kind of ETs from another planet? | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
We could have been created in their image. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
Who's to say that God wasn't a living, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:20 | |
kind of, breathing extraterrestrial? | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
We're heading to Flagstaff, Arizona. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
I believe yourself, Ben, I'll put forward the idea that us humans | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
are in some way descendents, or possibly related to aliens. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
-Yes. -So we're on the way to meet | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
a man by the name of PZ Myers. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
'PZ Myers is a leading evolutionary biologist.' | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
-I am PZ Myers. -Hi, Darren. -Darren. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
'He doesn't rule out the possibility of extraterrestrial life.' | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
-What are we talking about here? -What did it look like? -Yes. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
-OK, well, do you want me to draw one? -Let's draw it... | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
'He just thinks your average alien wouldn't look like us.' | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
Is it so far-fetched that something could be | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
-varied in that manner? -Yes. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
The remarkable thing about the stereotypical alien is how much they | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
look like us, how much they look like an infantilised human being. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
It's not likely though that an alien would have | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
exactly this arrangement of features. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
Why couldn't the wheel be spun in the evolution of our planet | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
and other planets and not make this? | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
Because a lot of these features are contingent, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
they're historical accidents. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
Many of the features of our face are derived from fish | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
and what we basically have is modified fish faces. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
For evolution to produce this creature from a completely | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
independent lineage, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:47 | |
on a completely different planet, with a completely different history, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
is ridiculously improbable. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
-Yeah. -So you could have intelligent aliens on other worlds, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
but why would you expect the eyeballs right here? | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
Why not put them somewhere else? Down here. Nostrils on the top. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
I do see where you're coming from with that point, yeah. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
I do see where you're coming from. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
Right, Ben seems to have been swayed by PZ's argument. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:14 | |
Time to get back on the bus. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:15 | |
We're heading down Route 375, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
known locally as the extraterrestrial highway, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
due to the large number | 0:13:23 | 0:13:24 | |
of UFO sightings. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
And where there are sightings, there is always souvenirs. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
Do you not feel like all this merchandise | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
and stuff is kind of taking the piss out of your opinions? | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
It doesn't matter if you believe or not. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
These guys have got to make a living and, you know, fair play to them. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
Is this the sort of thing? | 0:13:44 | 0:13:45 | |
Erm, yeah, pretty much. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
This is a fair enough representation? | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
Um, kind of. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
But, yeah, kind of. Very muscular... | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
-..big eyes, almond eyes. -Quite scary though. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
He's similar to lots of people's accounts, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
eye-witness accounts, yeah. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:02 | |
'Brigitte feels this cardboard cut-out is close to what aliens | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
'really look like. To me, it's straight out of the movies. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
'But what do the others think?' | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
Scottie, is this the sort of fella, is it? | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
No, no. That's just the way that Hollywood would portray them. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
-No? -Yeah, no, no. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:21 | |
Well, he just looks pretty buff, and... | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
He does. He's got a good abdominal area. Does the sit-ups. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
I mean, just look at the biceps, though, you know... | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
He needs to do a few more reps with a lot more weight. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
He wouldn't have a chance against you? | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
No. Even with a force field, I'd break through it, no problem at all. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
'Honestly, Scott is not joking!' | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
It seems they all have their own personal version of the alien. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
We're taking a detour to Las Vegas. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:53 | |
So far, I've questioned Brigitte on her UFO vision, | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
and Ben about his theories of the origin of Man. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
Bing-bong! Hidey-hi, campers! | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
TRIPPERS: Hidey-ho! | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
Will you please welcome to the front of the bus | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
our fellow road-tripper, Scott! | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
Yay! | 0:15:17 | 0:15:18 | |
'I'm now turning my attention to Scott, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
'who claims he was attacked by aliens in his own home.' | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
My experiences were kind of odd to begin with. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
It begins with a mind attack. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
They're trying to break me down through my brain, to then take me on physically. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
Some time when I woke up, I would see figures coming towards me. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:42 | |
So when these aliens were getting closer | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
and closer, it was just at the last second, I was able to break free | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
and foil the attempt of these abductions. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
I had no weapons. I was only in my pants, so I thought | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
if I am up against a seven-foot beefcake, I've only got my underwear. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
32-year-old telecom technician Scott lives in Swindon | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
and is married, with two kids. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
Since the attack, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
he's been preparing for the alien invasion of planet Earth. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
I've been preparing for about a year, at least. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
I've been researching what I would need. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
I got a lot of advice from people in America who'd been hit by | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
tsunamis and hurricanes, just to see how they were preparing. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
Another box. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
I have salmon and tuna, ready-made meals as well. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:37 | |
I've got an axe. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
Not only for self-defence, but I also use it, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
or I would use it, for chopping down trees, firewood. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:48 | |
Scott's main fear is alien mind control. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
I'm going to be making another hat that I would wear | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
just to protect my brain from a number of things. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
I'm going to get my wife to help me get it on, so it's just the right size, it fits right. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:04 | |
He's come up with a simple force shield that anyone can make at home. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:09 | |
Hold the front on. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:10 | |
The problem will be how they influence, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
obviously, the way you think. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
Put you into trances. Make you do things that you don't want to do. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:24 | |
People would just, you know, people would ridicule it. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
The mainstream media brainwash people. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
You're considered crazy if you believe in a conspiracy. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
You're just labelled the tinfoil hat brigade. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
When I go out in public, just not to alarm people... | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
..cover it up. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
Scott is dead-set serious about all of this. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
He's picking up the last vital supplies for the battle ahead. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
Scott wants to take advantage of America's relaxed gun laws | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
to try out the kind of weaponry he believes could thwart the alien attack. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
-I'd like to try and shoot a gun. -OK. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
-If that's OK? And a handgun... -OK. -..that's not too heavy. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
-I'll give you a 9mm Glock. -Great, OK. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
Sounds like you're at Specsavers. "Not too heavy, please." | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
Maybe a pump action shotgun. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
Nervous? Better not be nervous, when the aliens come here, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
like, you've got to go straight for it, man. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
Put the red dot where you want the bullets to go, squeeze the trigger. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
-How do you feel? -It's kind of a... | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
a shock, the force of the weapon, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
-the power, the volume... -One of them in your house? -Not one of them, no. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
Do you feel this gun would protect you from an alien invasion? | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
I think they might have a force field. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
'This whole gun thing ain't for me.' | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
CHEERING | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
Aaah! This is my universe! | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
'And I'm worried arming Scott is only taking this thing in a totally wrong direction.' | 0:19:15 | 0:19:20 | |
That's like the main kind of... | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
-..entry wound, if you like. -Right. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
And how do you feel, space warrior? | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
-It was actually really good fun. -Seriously, I know you had fun, | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
I know that both of you wanted to do that. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
I find guns chilling and unpleasant. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
-Well, I'd rather live in a world without guns. -Right. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
But, no, you have people and, you know... | 0:19:40 | 0:19:41 | |
Is there a way that you could live in a world without thinking, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
"Shit, it's aliens"? | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
-Yeah? -There's so much attention on it, we're saturated by it. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
Could you not just concentrate on something else? | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
Because genuinely, my worry is... | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
..I like you, but the idea of you arming and training | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
to defend your family in your house fills me with sadness beyond compare. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:03 | |
'We find ourselves in Sedona, Arizona, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
'deep in the American Wild West.' | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
Will you please help me welcome to the front of the bus | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
our fellow travelling companion Darren! | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
TRIPPERS CHEER | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
'33-year-old Darren is a hard-boiled UFO investigator. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
'His detective work has led him into very dangerous territory.' | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
I've now become a well-known UFO investigative researcher in the UK. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:42 | |
I investigate crop circles, animal mutilations, abductions, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:47 | |
and everything connected to the subject. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
Darren lives in Shrewsbury and runs a UFO group. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
In the past two years, he has gathered details on dozens | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
of cases of mutilated farm animals in his local area. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
This is six hours since the animal was last | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
running around the field, jumping up and playing with its friends. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
Some animal mutilation cases are believed to be linked | 0:21:16 | 0:21:22 | |
jointly with alien and military involvement, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
where the military | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
work with the aliens, in whatever craft they use, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
and then there's some sort of lab or bio...biotech place in the country. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:38 | |
Darren believes his investigations have disturbed | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
a secret alien world, making him a target. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
Last year, on a sky watch, I got targeted - | 0:21:47 | 0:21:52 | |
this is the word I'm going to use - by an unknown laser beam | 0:21:52 | 0:21:57 | |
in clear sky, which shot down to the ground... | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
right next to me with a crack, and it felt like I'd been electrocuted. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
I felt sick, I felt nauseous, and it was witnessed by three other people. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
Is it a weapon, Darren? Is it a weapon, do you think? | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
Could it... If it had hit you, would you have perished? | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
I didn't get hit by it. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:15 | |
If I got hit by it, maybe I'd have been alight or... | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
How bad was the damage? | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
I'd have one eyebrow missing, or an ear missing, but... | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
If that shot was a warning to say, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
"Look, we're here, stop looking at us," why are you still looking? | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
It's not going to stop me from what I'm doing, it's not going to put me off. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
You know, I'm trying to get to the bottom of whatever it is. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:35 | |
'So far, I've had limited success with my trippers. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
'So I'm going to try a little bit of reverse psychology. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
'We're picking up a seasoned UFO investigator, Chris O'Brian. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:54 | |
'O'Brian's ideas on animal mutilations are so outlandish...' | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
-How are you doing there, Chris? -All right. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
'..I'm hoping they'll make Darren take another look at his own theories.' | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
The first thing I do when I go to a case is, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
I look for cut hair follicles. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
That, to me, is an indication that some sharp implement normally, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
and, on rare occasions, a lasing instrument, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
has actually made these horrific-looking cuts. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
You want to go up to the top of the hill and, uh...make a left. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
'Chris has brought us to the kind of farmland | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
'where these alien attacks apparently happen.' | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
My theory on this is that there's some health organisation | 0:23:39 | 0:23:44 | |
that's secret that may be attached to the UN, or some, you know, | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
sort of international body, that is | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
sampling livestock in specific geographic regions. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
The actual organs that are excised | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
and removed are the places in which humans develop cancer most often. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
Check that out. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
'A bizarre UN plan to come up with a cure for cancer? Really?!' | 0:24:02 | 0:24:07 | |
Darren, what do you think of this? | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
What do you think these animals mutilations are? | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
It's some sort of private or military involvement where | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
they're testing what's going in the food chain. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
Do you think it's alien activity? | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
Yeah, quite... 99.9%, I'm sure that there's | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
an extraterrestrial presence. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
I personally think we're dealing with an ancient predatory | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
presence that's as terrestrial as we are, it's just hidden to us. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
It's either dimensional, it's either some sort of time-based thing. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:37 | |
It could be high-tech chefs coming back to...to get | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
a million dollar plate dinner material through time. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
Possibly the UN, possibly aliens, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
possibly a multi-dimensional ancient predator. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
The World Health Organisation. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
And possibly a time-travelling chef. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
'My plan has backfired. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:56 | |
'Chris O'Brian's got Darren reeling with new and even wilder scenarios.' | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
If it gets reported through the veterinary channels, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
where it goes to the authorities, something called a D notice | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
-is placed on the press, on the media... -Yeah. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
..and unless you're local, or you know the farmer, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
-or you know investigators... -You'd never know. -..nobody knows about these cases. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
-Right. -The lid is shut tight. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
'So too, it seems, is Darren's mind. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
'The idea of time-travelling extraterrestrial | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
'chefs in search of a good steak dinner is not for me.' | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
MUSIC: "Can't Get You Out Of My Head" by Kylie Minogue | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
There is now only one member of the group whose conspiracy | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
I haven't yet tackled. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
Franky. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:47 | |
She's not prepared to reveal it in front of the others, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
but nine years ago, Franky had a mind-bending experience. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
I was in my kitchen, washing up, listening to a bit of Kylie, | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
when suddenly, it was like the back of my spine lit up like, zhhh! | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
-OK. Like hairs on your neck? -No. -No? | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
It was like my spine itself lit up with energy | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
and this back part of my brain that I'd never used before, like, switched on | 0:26:16 | 0:26:22 | |
and I had a full-on vision of the inside of this spaceship city. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:27 | |
That's what I saw. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
And it was like the most magnificent, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
wonderful thing I'd ever seen. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
Sincerely, round and round, you know, I'm not...taking the piss, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
-but I feel duty-bound to ask, were you high? -No. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
Franky Marr is a full-time mum and lives in London. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
Her vision has left her confused. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
Could they be from another dimension, rather than from another planet? | 0:27:00 | 0:27:05 | |
She's also quite embarrassed. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
Admitting, you know, these anomalous experiences, | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
it's essentially like admitting you have herpes. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
I'm hoping my next expert, psychologist Dr Michael Shermer, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
can convince Franky the alien city is all in her head. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
He's the publisher of the Skeptic magazine. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
-Oh, for fuck's sake! -Boo! | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
'Franky is no mood for this expert. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
'Michael is well known in UFO circles, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
'and he's not exactly popular.' | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
We investigate all kinds of pseudoscientific... | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
baloney would be the nice word. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
We have yet to even meet Dr Shermer and Franky is already on edge. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
Now we're going to have to listen to one more person's fucking bullshit. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
I say, bring him on. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:02 | |
That's not exactly the spirit of scientific inquiry I was | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
expecting from you, but perhaps that's how you agnostics roll. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
He's a two-bit hustler. I'll listen to what | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
he has to say for about 4.5 minutes, and then we're off. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:14 | |
If you don't have the patience to meet this man, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
and you've already decided that he's a two-bit hustler... | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
You're apparently the open-minded agnostic, but you're telling me | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
before you've even met the guy that he's a two-bit hustler... | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
I said I'd give him... Because he is. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:26 | |
And I said I will give him five minutes. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
Actually, as an open-minded agnostic, I think I'm the one | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
-that actually knows more about him than anyone else here... -Right. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
Because I've researched him. That is my opinion of him. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
I'm willing to give him five minutes. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
-Five minutes? -Five minutes, yeah. -That's how long it takes | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
for your inquiring mind to make a decision, five minutes? | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
I've given him far more than five minutes. I've researched him for hours. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
If you want me to get off the bus, I'll get off the bus. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
No. I want you to sit down and be patient and get involved in it. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
I just find, like... | 0:28:56 | 0:28:57 | |
-it's bullshit, man. -Experience... -Is everybody ready? Yeah. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:02 | |
-OK. -So ready. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, can you please welcome on the bus | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
-Dr Michael Shermer. -Hello, Michael. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
-APPLAUSE -Hi, guys. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
So, some of us in the group have had, like, literally visions, | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
we've seen things. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:15 | |
I saw a red, glowing orb that was, like, pulsating like that. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:21 | |
And then as the sighting went on, | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
I saw two objects, like white arrowheads, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
-fly over from one side of the horizon to the other... -OK. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
And then the same again with five objects. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
What do you think it was? | 0:29:32 | 0:29:33 | |
I think... I believe it was a UFO, Unidentified Flying Object. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
Why would you think that? What do you mean by UFO? | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
-It's an unidentified flying object, yes. -Yeah. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
-OK, but that's all we can say. It's just unidentified. -Yeah. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
OK, don't go any further than that. It's just unidentified. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
-Yeah. -End of story. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
Until we can figure out what it is, we don't know. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
These are called anomalous psychological experiences. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
They come in a variety of flavours. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
One can be triggered by sleep deprivation, fatigue. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
Sometimes, under certain conditions, you sense | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
the presence of another person, or being, or creature. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
Climbers that do K2 and Everest, | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
they will often have a shared hallucination of another | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
climber with them on the rope who isn't actually there, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
and later, they'll talk about it. It's like, "Did you see that?" | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
"Yeah, yeah, I saw it." And this is called the sense presence effect. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
I do kind of wonder - are you being paid to be here today, | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
or have you just come along because you're promoting your magazine, etc? | 0:30:26 | 0:30:31 | |
OK, here's our general position on UFOs. Um... | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
So there's a body of you and you have one general position? | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
No, no, no, no. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:38 | |
There's no such thing, of course, but I'm just speaking in general, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
the sense of people I know that work in this business. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
So there's two questions - are there aliens out there? | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
-Have they come here? -Yeah. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:48 | |
Most of us scientists tend to think that there is probably | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
extraterrestrial life teeming throughout the galaxy, right? | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
Yeah, yeah, I get that. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:56 | |
At least bacterial grade, maybe even intelligent life, right? | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
Now, the chances of going from, say, something like a Neanderthal, | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
which is a pretty advanced, big-brained creature making tools, | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
to actually achieving space flight or radio communication | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
that we can make contact with, that's a much harder step to make. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but I totally disagree | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
because it's been my personal experience, | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
and lots of other factors are involved in that. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
Unfortunately, our idea that we're rational beings that can | 0:31:24 | 0:31:29 | |
correctly perceive the world around us turns out not to be the case. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
We are very irrational, emotional, and we misperceive things all the time. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
From a scientist's perspective, it's OK to just say, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
-"I don't know." -Mmm-hmm. -And let's just let it sit there. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
-But that's what I've always said. -We don't have to... Perfect. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
We don't have to construct a whole world view of aliens coming here, | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
and conspiracies, and Men In Black, and cover-up, | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
and government this and that, you don't have to do that, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
you can just let it sit as like, "Wow, that was really interesting." | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
-And that's it. -I was not looking forward to meeting you, | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
but now that I have, I think you're really quite cool. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
-You were only going to give him five minutes. -I was going to give you | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
five minutes and then go stomping off to the bar. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:04 | |
-Thank you, Michael. -That's our job. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
-Thank you, dude All right. -All right. -Bye! | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
-TRIPPERS: -Bye! -Wave off the sceptic. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
-TRIPPERS: -Goodbye. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:11 | |
I'm more than halfway through my 1,000-mile trip. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
I've had only limited success taking on my trippers' personal theories. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
So now it's time to tackle the mother of all UFO conspiracies. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
It centres around Area 51... | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
..a top-secret military base located deep in the Nevada desert. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
It's a weapons-testing facility. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
But my lot also believe aliens are being held there... | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
..brought from the infamous 1947 flying saucer crash at Roswell. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:03 | |
-Hello, fellow road trippers! TRIPPERS: -Hello. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
-Now, we've all heard of Area 51. TRIPPERS: -Yes. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
It's kind of a key piece in the whole carry-on, correct? | 0:33:21 | 0:33:25 | |
-Yeah. -Right. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
Well, we've lined up a guy who apparently has | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
the inside scoop on Area 51. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
John Lear is a decorated pilot who spent years | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
flying covert missions for the CIA. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
Lear claims his work within the US intelligence community | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
has given him the inside knowledge on Area 51. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
There was rumoured to be kind of alien beings taken to Area 51, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
-is that true? -There were two live ones | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
and three deceased aliens in the two crashes that happened. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
-One is...friendly and the other is not so friendly. -Yeah? | 0:34:02 | 0:34:08 | |
'Hold tight! I didn't know this was his angle.' | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
Well, they have this big half-sphere where he lives inside, and... | 0:34:15 | 0:34:21 | |
when the President and Vice President, Head of the CIA, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
want to see him, there's a big balcony, | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
and this is all on the Internet, there's very good drawings | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
-of all this stuff, and they bring him up in this half sphere. -Good. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
-FRANKY: -And what kind of alien was it? | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
They call that the J-Rod. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
It definitely wasn't a grey, but the government calls it a J-Rod. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
But why don't... Why doesn't the J-Rod's people... | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
either rescue him, or at least just go, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
"Hang on, we'll just go over the head of them and... | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
"reveal ourselves, like, by literally flying over downtown Manhattan"? | 0:34:50 | 0:34:55 | |
The aliens are not allowed to give us an over...message. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
Who doesn't allow them? | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
The guys that made us. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:02 | |
Those guys have been around here for billions of years. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
'This stuff is so off the hook. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
'My trippers aren't really believing this, are they?' | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
The Earth is 11 billion years old. The moon is 20 billion years old | 0:35:15 | 0:35:21 | |
and was fabricated inside the planet Jupiter. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
'I'm not buying any of this, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
'but John insists he has photographic evidence.' | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
This is a picture of the moon. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
I can tell you that this is 125 miles northwest of Copernicus, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:39 | |
but this is a city, and you can see the houses, the buildings. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
Here is an aeroplane. Here's the different houses, trees, bushes, | 0:35:42 | 0:35:47 | |
all down here is just all kinds of factories, factories up here. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:53 | |
-There's 1.5 to two billion people living up there. -Really? -Yeah. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:58 | |
'I was expecting this former CIA man to be super straight-laced. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
'But his stuff seems to be the most outlandish yet. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
'And it seems to have put off Ben a little.' | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
I kind of believe all of his theories on the bases - | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
Area 51 and such, it sounds very plausible, but some of the things what he said | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
were quite out-there, right? Like the moon was made inside Jupiter? | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
There's no science to back that up at all. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
You go down this rabbit hole of... | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
-Yeah, yeah. -..crazy UFO theories, it just...it only gets worse, Ben. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
-It gets, it gets... -Yeah. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:37 | |
-You're right, it has shocked me. -There are 25 billion people on the moon! -Yeah, yeah, I know. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:42 | |
-This is... -You're right. -But, Benny, is this your view, dude? | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
-Hopefully, you won't... I see what you're saying, but... -That's Christmas Future, man. -Yeah. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
After our out-of-this-world encounter with John Lear, | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
I decide the only solution to the problem is to turn | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
the bus around and head straight for Area 51. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
So we're back on the Extraterrestrial Highway, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
with only Elvis to guide us. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:17 | |
MUSIC: "Rock-A-Hula Baby" by Elvis | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
Late that afternoon, we locate an unmarked track leading to | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
the infamous secret base, but things are about to go very wrong. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
MUSIC: "THE TWILIGHT ZONE" THEME | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
These few secretly taken photographs are our only record of our visit. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:49 | |
We arrived at Area 51 checkpoint. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
To me, it seemed like an ordinary military facility. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
But my companions were convinced this was the gateway to | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
the extraterrestrial secrets. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
We got a bit overexcited and we strayed into the restricted zone... | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
to ask where the aliens were being kept! | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
But after knocking on the guardhouse door, we found ourselves | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
lying on the ground with gun barrels pointed at our heads. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
-SIREN WAILS -Stay on the ground! | 0:38:29 | 0:38:30 | |
The military police had detained us for trespassing | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
and confiscated our cameras. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
'Four hours later, we were back on the bus, after being released | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
'without charge, but with just a camera phone to capture our relief.' | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
You must shuffle towards the enemy. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:54 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, can we please raise a toast to our freedom! | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
-TRIPPERS: -Yay! | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
We are the only group of people who can say, when somebody asks us, | 0:39:01 | 0:39:08 | |
"Have you ever heard of Area 51, man?" | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
We can say, "Heard of it? We've danced on it!" | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
-TRIPPERS: -Yeah! | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
There's the signs warning us not to cross the barrier... | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
'After last night's high jinx and shenanigans, it's time for a debrief.' | 0:39:30 | 0:39:35 | |
So does it make you feel, now that you've actually been to Area 51? | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
Make you feel like there's more, or less, likelihood of any UFO business, alien business? | 0:39:38 | 0:39:43 | |
I still believe that they've got some sort of life form | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
and extraterrestrial craft. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:48 | |
Why can't you conceive of the idea that just | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
human scientists could've come up with a stealth bomber? | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
No, not so quickly, not so quickly. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
We've evolved so quickly within technology. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
Yeah, but have you ever heard of Moore's Law? | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
Computing power doubles every two years. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
You don't need an alien craft, you just... The more humans talk, | 0:40:03 | 0:40:08 | |
the faster technology develops. So do you all still believe? | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
I think they have got a non-terrestrial life form and craft in it. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:17 | |
-Ben? -Same for me, this doesn't change anything. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
It was a great experience but, like I said, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
I think it would've happened at any military kind of base, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
but, yeah, so basically, I still believe, yeah. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
Our arrest has achieved nothing but fan more flames of suspicion. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
We've been denied access to Area 51, but Darren still thinks | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
he has a chance to prove to me that aliens are real. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
We're heading back to the perimeter of the base. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
We are going to go down to a special place in Area 51 history | 0:40:51 | 0:40:55 | |
called the Black Mailbox. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
We're looking for the only landmark in this barren | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
stretch of desert highway - the Black Mailbox. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
'It turns out the Black Mailbox is actually white.' | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
The famous Black Mailbox of Ufology fame. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:20 | |
'Black or white, if I'm ever going to see an alien, this is probably | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
'where it's going to be.' | 0:41:25 | 0:41:26 | |
This spot, it has the best views over to the mountain range. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
Behind that mountain range is Area 51. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
It's got the best light, it's open. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
People say it's the best place cos you can see things | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
coming up from the base, if they come up. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
-What do you mean? By things, you mean spaceships? -Maybe UFOs. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
Anything could come up from there, it's Area 51, so, yeah. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
-Sweet as a nut, let's get... -But this is it. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
-Let's get started then, come on. -Yay! | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
All right, let's start looking. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
Hey, aliens! | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
-Send me your most funny alien! -Right, I'll take... Yeah, he's right. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
-You see that flashing? -Shitting hell! | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
'Wow, Darren's actually spotted something over Area 51.' | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
Oh, there you go, it's right there. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
-Up there too! There are three, look, there! -Look at that shit. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
-Fuck you! -Look, they even turn around! | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
-Fuck you! -Turn around! | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
Everybody, everybody that said they didn't exist, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
there they fucking are! | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
-They're military flares. Sorry. -No, they're not, they're not flares. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
'Unfortunately, not all you see is to be believed.' | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
-They are military flares. -No, that's aliens. -They're flares. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
Why is the army sending up flares? | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
Right. What they do with flares, we're over, you know, | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
this air force bombing range and Area 51 | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
and the flares are used as away points for aircraft. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
But there's no aircraft, so why are they firing flares? | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
Exactly, why are they firing flares? BOOM! | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
-Fucking hell! What the fuck was that?! -Excellent. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
What the fuck is that?! | 0:42:51 | 0:42:52 | |
There you go, that's a sonic boom, isn't it? | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
-Yeah. -Ah, missed it. -Sonic boom. -Hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo! -Sonic boom. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
'It's easy to see how these flares | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
'and secret aeroplanes could be misconstrued.' | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
# I saw a UFO in the sky last night | 0:43:06 | 0:43:12 | |
# Made me wonder if... # | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
'It's been a long night | 0:43:14 | 0:43:15 | |
'and, despite all the evidence to the contrary, most of my trippers | 0:43:15 | 0:43:19 | |
'still think that Area 51 is a hotbed of alien activity.' | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
MUSIC: "Viva Las Vegas" by Elvis | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
-Bing-bong! Welcome to Las Vegas. TRIPPERS: -Yay! | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
I'm going to have one last-ditch attempt | 0:43:41 | 0:43:43 | |
at trying to discredit the Area 51 myth. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
Today, we are going to meet a lady by the name of Annie Jacobson. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:52 | |
She is a writer, historian, and expert on Area 51. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:57 | |
# Viva Las Vegas | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 | |
# Viva Las Vegas... # | 0:44:00 | 0:44:04 | |
'I'm hoping Annie can help me persuade | 0:44:04 | 0:44:06 | |
'my fellow travelling companions of the simple truth about Area 51.' | 0:44:06 | 0:44:10 | |
Many people believe it is an underworld of captured aliens | 0:44:10 | 0:44:14 | |
and UFOs, as you say. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
In my experience, interviewing 74 men who worked | 0:44:16 | 0:44:20 | |
and lived on the base, I didn't come across a single source | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
that told me about an extraterrestrial. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:25 | |
You don't believe that any kind of craft or aliens went there at all, in your opinion? | 0:44:25 | 0:44:30 | |
Well, what I do believe is that the CIA uses any | 0:44:30 | 0:44:34 | |
and all means to keep their secret programmes secret. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:38 | |
And often, what that involves is information and disinformation. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:44 | |
So if they're trying to keep a programme secret | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
and people are busy talking about UFOs, it's a convenient way to not have people ask, | 0:44:46 | 0:44:53 | |
"What's going on with that top-secret spy plane?" | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
From my point of view as an investigative researcher into this phenomenon, I have to consider | 0:44:56 | 0:45:03 | |
that there is some sort of... | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
captured non-terrestrial. You have to... | 0:45:06 | 0:45:08 | |
All these crashes, they all happened at the height of the Cold War. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
The Soviet Union and America were in an arms race | 0:45:11 | 0:45:14 | |
to build the most sophisticated aircraft. It would've been | 0:45:14 | 0:45:18 | |
so much handier for them to go, "Yeah, yeah, there's an alien." | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
I've come across a lot of information that the idea of aliens | 0:45:21 | 0:45:27 | |
having come to Earth is a convenient disinformation tool for the CIA. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:31 | |
'So there is a government cover-up surrounding Area 51, | 0:45:31 | 0:45:35 | |
'but it concerns US foreign policy and the design of high-tech weapons. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:40 | |
'It's got nothing to do with flying saucers. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:42 | |
'Annie even introduces us to Richard Mingus, a retired Area 51 employee. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:51 | |
'He worked at the base for 36 years | 0:45:51 | 0:45:53 | |
'and was responsible for guarding the U-2 spy plane project.' | 0:45:53 | 0:45:57 | |
You obviously observed lots of types of military aircraft. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:04 | |
If something had flown in the skies that was slightly | 0:46:04 | 0:46:08 | |
a little bit more different, and you felt that it was different, | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
wouldn't you sort of be able to differentiate between the two, | 0:46:11 | 0:46:15 | |
whether it be our craft here, government craft, or something else? | 0:46:15 | 0:46:20 | |
You're asking me, did I see really anything different than, | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
-like, the U-2? -Yeah. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:24 | |
-No. -OK. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:29 | |
The most extraordinary thing that people | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
say about Area 51 is that there is captured aliens there. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:36 | |
I did not see aliens, or did I see any spaceships. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:41 | |
I've seen no conspiracies of any kind taking place out there. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
'Well, that's a pretty definitive statement to me. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:52 | |
'What do the gang think?' | 0:46:52 | 0:46:54 | |
I'm 99.9% sure that they've got an ET craft and/or | 0:46:54 | 0:46:59 | |
beings on this planet, possibly at Area 51. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:02 | |
They could be in other places. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:04 | |
And that's my personal opinion, from experience. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:06 | |
-Yeah, totally. -Everything what you've just said there, | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
that's my view as well, I couldn't put it better. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
Your margin of doubt is only 1,000th? | 0:47:12 | 0:47:13 | |
From my own research, yeah, | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
-it's the conclusion we've come to, right? Yeah. -Yes. -Yeah. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
And I'll stand by that. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
'Blimey O'Reilly! Right. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
'Well, I haven't got a hope in hell of changing their minds, | 0:47:23 | 0:47:26 | |
'and Annie's got an extra twist to her story too.' | 0:47:26 | 0:47:28 | |
Proving whether you believe in aliens or not, Area 51 | 0:47:29 | 0:47:33 | |
seems to have the power to inspire tall tales. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
According to my ,source there was a saucer-shaped craft that was | 0:47:36 | 0:47:42 | |
sent by Stalin and crashed in the New Mexico desert. The crash | 0:47:42 | 0:47:47 | |
was subsequently moved to Area 51 in 1951, according to my source. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:53 | |
The reason he has this information, and I believe him, is because | 0:47:53 | 0:47:57 | |
in that part of the programme, he was a first-hand witness. | 0:47:57 | 0:48:00 | |
Like, how did it get there? Was it literally rocket-propelled? | 0:48:00 | 0:48:03 | |
What we are led to believe is that the craft was actually anti-gravity. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:07 | |
The craft was actually piggy-backed onto another larger craft, | 0:48:07 | 0:48:10 | |
and that is my understanding of how that saucer got here, yes. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:13 | |
That's cool. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:15 | |
'Just when I think things can't get any weirder, they do.' | 0:48:15 | 0:48:18 | |
This craft was sent over, and out came these non-consenting airmen, | 0:48:19 | 0:48:26 | |
-let's say, that had been surgically altered to look like Martians. -Wow. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:33 | |
And that is the great horror behind that story. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:37 | |
And that physical evidence, according to my source, | 0:48:37 | 0:48:41 | |
was moved to Area 51 and has been there for decades. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:45 | |
Was there any follow-up to what happened to these deformed Russians? | 0:48:45 | 0:48:49 | |
Well, that's where the story becomes very, very secretive | 0:48:49 | 0:48:52 | |
and that's where the source would not share any more information with us. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:57 | |
I feel like I'm chasing my tail here. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:00 | |
If it's not aliens, it's the Cold War. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:02 | |
And it seems to be even getting too much for Scott. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:06 | |
I came on here for answers, and I'm just really disillusioned | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
now about... There's just so many different fantastic theories | 0:49:11 | 0:49:13 | |
out there and it's just, where do they all come from? There's just no answers anywhere. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:18 | |
I've just kind of given up with the subject at the moment. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:21 | |
It seems not even Scott's tin-foil hat can protect him | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
from this mental overload. | 0:49:28 | 0:49:30 | |
'We're coming to the end of our trip and we're all exhausted. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:38 | |
'I don't know how much appetite for UFOs I still have... | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
'..but there's still one last angle to Brigitte's story I need to explore. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:51 | |
'Moments after witnessing a 45-foot flying saucer over an LA freeway... | 0:49:55 | 0:50:00 | |
'..Brigitte claims she had an even closer encounter.' | 0:50:01 | 0:50:04 | |
All of a sudden, it felt like I was being sucked through | 0:50:06 | 0:50:09 | |
the steering wheel, out through the dashboard, through the car engine. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:14 | |
I then recall being in a field, beings being there. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:19 | |
Now, they weren't a typical grey type of beings, | 0:50:19 | 0:50:21 | |
they were kind of see-through, flesh-coloured, with veins, | 0:50:21 | 0:50:26 | |
quite muscular, with hair, the hair was white... | 0:50:26 | 0:50:31 | |
..and one of them had a child and tried to present me with this child. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:36 | |
If I was heavily religious and I had Jesus in front of me, | 0:50:36 | 0:50:41 | |
I would explain it as that. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
So she's not only seen aliens, she's been abducted by them. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:52 | |
As the final proof of all her claims, | 0:50:52 | 0:50:55 | |
she's agreed to take a lie-detector test. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:57 | |
If she's telling porky pies, her heart rate, blood pressure, | 0:50:59 | 0:51:03 | |
and respiration will give the game away. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
You can pass a polygraph test if you listen carefully | 0:51:08 | 0:51:10 | |
to every word of the question, please put it visually to me. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:14 | |
Everything's in place and Brigitte is ready to take the lie-detector test. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:20 | |
But I'm having second thoughts now. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:24 | |
What do you think, Brigitte, do you want to do it? | 0:51:28 | 0:51:30 | |
You do? Are you sure? | 0:51:30 | 0:51:32 | |
''I think doing this, and it...' | 0:51:33 | 0:51:35 | |
her failing it could probably hurt her more than all the aliens she's ever met. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:40 | |
'She's just a nice lady who has had a lot of' | 0:51:44 | 0:51:46 | |
really odd things happen to her | 0:51:46 | 0:51:49 | |
that, for me, seem tall in the tale division, but... | 0:51:49 | 0:51:53 | |
..I don't need to...we don't need to do this. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:57 | |
I just.. This is... It's fucking awful. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:01 | |
Hey, listen, I'm sorry to disturb and I don't usually pull rank on this one, | 0:52:09 | 0:52:14 | |
Brigitte, but... Sorry to interrupt, Ron, | 0:52:14 | 0:52:16 | |
but I don't want to do this, and I don't want you to do it. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:20 | |
I don't think it's necessary and I'd rather you didn't, Brigitte. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:24 | |
I kind of don't need to know. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:27 | |
I like you. I'd rather you tell me your stories | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
and just leave it at that. Yeah? | 0:52:32 | 0:52:34 | |
Yeah? | 0:52:34 | 0:52:35 | |
Come on, you. Come on. Come on. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:40 | |
-I'm going to start crying... -Come on. There's no need. Come on. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
I was willing to do this. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:44 | |
I know you were, darling, but I don't need to know. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:47 | |
-OK. -All right? -Yeah. -OK. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:49 | |
'I can't help feeling Brigitte's whole identity is closely connected | 0:52:50 | 0:52:54 | |
'to her faith in extraterrestrial beings... | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
'and I'm not here to put her through a test that's going to destroy | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
'her entire belief system and leave her all Christmas and no Santa.' | 0:53:01 | 0:53:06 | |
Come on. Come on. All right? | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
We're done. At the end of it all, | 0:53:13 | 0:53:16 | |
I still don't believe in alien conspiracies. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
Many people have a need to explain to themselves how the world works, | 0:53:23 | 0:53:27 | |
and for my trippers, extraterrestrial life | 0:53:27 | 0:53:30 | |
provides some reassuring answers. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:32 | |
So what are they taking back from the road trip? | 0:53:34 | 0:53:38 | |
I came here thinking that I might get some sort of fact or answer, | 0:53:38 | 0:53:41 | |
and I haven't got anything, | 0:53:41 | 0:53:42 | |
which just makes me think that there isn't an answer. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:45 | |
I don't want to sit around any more thinking, what's true and what's not, you know? | 0:53:45 | 0:53:48 | |
I'd rather just forget about it... and focus on other things. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:52 | |
Well, that's a turn-up for the books. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:56 | |
I do hope Scott will be able to take his mind off the alien invasion from now on | 0:53:56 | 0:54:00 | |
and get on with his life in Swindon. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
But what about Franky? | 0:54:03 | 0:54:05 | |
UFOs exist. That is a fact. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:10 | |
What they are - whether they're extraterrestrial, interdimensional, | 0:54:10 | 0:54:14 | |
government cover-up, or at the other end of the spectrum, | 0:54:14 | 0:54:19 | |
natural phenomenon that people don't recognise - to me, that issue | 0:54:19 | 0:54:23 | |
is separate from the whole alien abduction experience issue as well. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:27 | |
'At one point, I thought Ben was going to have a shift of perspective... | 0:54:27 | 0:54:31 | |
'..but he seems as certain as ever of extraterrestrial life.' | 0:54:34 | 0:54:37 | |
The whole kind of UFO issue, | 0:54:37 | 0:54:39 | |
I think it just stems from my personal belief and, like, | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
my actual sighting itself. It's, like, forever burned in my mind, you know? | 0:54:42 | 0:54:47 | |
So I've still got my beliefs that there are | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
UFOs in the sky and that we are being visited by extraterrestrials. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:54 | |
I've got nowhere at all with Darren, | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
who is still 99.9% convinced aliens and government agencies | 0:54:58 | 0:55:03 | |
are up to all sorts of galactic shenanigans. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:06 | |
It's all about awareness. It's all about telling people | 0:55:06 | 0:55:09 | |
what you find out and what you know, but the UFO subject is a big conspiracy. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:14 | |
The truth is out there, we just need to find it. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:16 | |
'As for Brigitte...' | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
Have you changed your opinion on anything? | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
Definitely not. Definitely not. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:23 | |
'Oh, well! I've decided to take her just the way she is.' | 0:55:23 | 0:55:27 | |
You have my undivided attention, Brigitte, I am now going to | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
put on my specs, kick back... I want your most high-strange story. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:36 | |
-OK. -Well, I have to give you my recent high strangeness story. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:40 | |
-All right. -If you start snoring, I'm going to fucking whack you, mate. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
I won't. I promise, I promise, I promise. Go for it. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
-OK, I'm going to the store... -OK. -..to go and get some groceries. I... | 0:55:46 | 0:55:49 | |
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