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This programme contains some strong language

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I'm Andrew Maxwell, a comedian. But in this series,

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I'm on a serious mission - to explore the world of the conspiracy theorist.

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Tonight, I'm in America, with five Brits who all believe

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they've had encounters of the alien kind.

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-Hi, there.

-Hello.

-Brigitte, all right?

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Hello, Brigitte.

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'They claim to have witnessed spacecraft from other galaxies...'

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-Andrew.

-Darren.

-Hello, Darren.

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'..been attacked by UFOs...'

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-Hello, Andrew, I'm Scott.

-'..had close encounters with ETs...'

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-How are you, man?

-Yeah, good.

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Welcome onboard, man. And what's your name?

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-Pleased to... Franky.

-Franky, welcome onboard.

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'..and even believe an alien invasion is imminent.'

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Most scientists think we are not alone in the universe,

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but, like myself, they are sceptical about claims of alien

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visitation and government cover-ups.

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I'm taking my five companions

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on a USA road trip to explore some

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iconic UFO hotspots

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and meet experts who will help me

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refute their extraterrestrial claims.

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It's just unidentified, OK? Don't go any further than that.

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'There will be upsets...'

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Don't. Cos now you will get me crying, now that I'm here.

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MUSIC: "Rock-A-Hula Baby" by Elvis

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'..but lots of fun...

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'..and outlandish behaviour.'

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How do I survive, and then how do I defend

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if the aliens do, kind of, you know, take the streets?

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Fasten your seatbelts and welcome to Conspiracy Road Trip UFO.

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Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Andrew.

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I will be your tour guide on this journey.

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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to Conspiracy Road Trip UFOs.

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TRIPPERS CHEER

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'It's day one, and we are in LA.

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'Over the next few weeks, each of my fellow travellers is going to

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'offer up a claim, which I'll try and disprove.

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'First up is Brigitte.'

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Will you please welcome Brigitte? Give her a round of applause.

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TRIPPERS APPLAUD

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It involved a 45-foot craft over the freeway at 10:06 at night.

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Myself and somebody else was there,

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and I hope you get the pleasure to experience it yourselves.

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'Brigitte had her most memorable alien encounter

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'while she was working in LA 19 years ago.'

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What you are going to see is a reconstruction.

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This is me in the car. My friend superimposed the Holiday Inn

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and made the spaceship.

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And that's...to your mind's eye, that's...is that a...?

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It's exactly what I saw.

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On a regular day in LA.

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-There's the Holiday Inn.

-OK.

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Yes, it's over there. Shit.

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OK.

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'Incredibly, Brigitte's sighting was at this busy freeway intersection.'

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-Where were you?

-In the car.

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All of a sudden, I had this silver, hard,

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solid object, which was...

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45 foot in length, so from here to over to there.

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-The size of the road, basically?

-The size of the road.

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It's gliding over the back boot of the car in front of me.

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It's then going over here, ploughing through the tops of the trees.

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I've got my hands prised to the steering wheel,

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eyes were just watering, body felt physically sick,

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it's like, "What the hell is this thing?"

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Has there ever been doubts in your mind?

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I saw it, I was underneath this object.

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Even some of the other trippers are sceptical of Brigitte's account.

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I have my suspicions. I'm not 100% that I believe her.

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It's a bit outlandish, especially on such a public place like this.

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Why haven't more people kind of seen it?

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Whilst I'm not discrediting it, I just would've

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assumed that there would've been kind of more witnesses.

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You know, to my mind, like, a craft the size of the road...

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-..it would be mayhem.

-But, you know what,

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what if everyone else was transfixed, the way that I was?

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Brigitte, single mother of three, is from Devon.

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She had her first extraterrestrial encounter when she was seven.

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Can't explain why they came to me.

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And they keep coming back to me. But...I like the fact that they do.

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Day two.

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With dissent and disbelief still in the air, it's time for some

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objective science.

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We're heading out to Mount Wilson Observatory.

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-Good morning, everyone!

-Good morning.

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In lieu of Brigitte's testimony earlier, of having seen all sorts

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of carry-on, we are going to meet a man by the name of Seth Shostak.

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TRIPPERS CHEER

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Dr Seth Shostak is a world-renowned astronomer.

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He works for the SETI Institute...

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..a scientific organisation whose mission is to search

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the cosmos for signs of extraterrestrial intelligence.

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What we try and do is try

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-and eavesdrop on signals that they might be sending our way.

-OK.

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Just trying to...just trying to hear ET's radio broadcast.

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I'm sure there are a lot of planets out there that have

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plenty of life that's not very clever,

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life that doesn't write great literature and doesn't build

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-radio transmitters, but we're not going to hear from those guys.

-No.

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Our galaxy has 200 billion stars. It probably has a trillion planets,

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-that's with a T.

-Right.

-That's a large number.

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Now, if this is the only planet where anything interesting

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is happening, that makes us a miracle.

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-Right.

-And one thing you learn from studying astronomy is that

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every time you believe in miracles, you're wrong.

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Like many scientists Dr Shostak thinks that alien life exists,

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but we just haven't seen it yet. So what does he think

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of Brigitte's UFO encounter?

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I had a close encounter in central Los Angeles, Brentwood.

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-It involved a 45-foot craft.

-But no pictures?

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I was in shock.

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I think you would be also.

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You know, if I had a camera, I would still have someone ridicule me.

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Can I ask, what about the craft made you think it was extraterrestrial?

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It was nothing that I had seen before. It had no wings.

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It had no fuel...

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Well, you say that, but you would've seen something like that in a movie.

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Yeah. I've seen spaceships on TV. It's all... Children's...

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Children's TV channels - there's spaceships everywhere.

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I think that if there were compelling evidence, yes, you would

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have tens of thousands of academics beavering away, working on that.

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If the evidence is poor, they're not going to waste their time,

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that's the thing, and the fact that they're not doing that

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means that the evidence is poor.

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There's not a very good case for alien visitation.

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'Dr Shostak's views make complete sense to me...

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'..but Darren thinks something's not quite right.'

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There are parts of space that the Hubble telescope will not

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point at, and that's said to be under direction from NASA

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and the military or the government.

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For me, I think if there was a large object, I don't think

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they would publically announce that straightaway and tell the public...

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But who would the 'they' be? You'd be kind of the 'they', would you not?

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We'd be among the 'they', but there'd be

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about 10,000 astronomers who are part of the 'they'.

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The idea that they're all in some conspiracy is kind of goofy.

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There's no conspiracy to keep things secret in science.

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I picked up on his body language and his body language...his eyes

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flicked, and they kept flicking and flicking and flicking.

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And if you read body language, that's a sign that he might not be telling us all the true facts.

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It's not something I spotted.

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I wanted to ask the doctor, why do ordinary people like Brigitte

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and Darren believe they've seen such extraordinary things?

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There's something about a conspiracy that I think is very empowering.

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If you, for example, think that

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we're being buzzed by alien spacecraft...

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-Uh-huh.

-..and those pointy-headed, nerdy scientists down at the local

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university don't agree with you, you know something they don't know.

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-Yes.

-And so there's something empowering about that.

-It's a cache.

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Yeah. I think that that's understandable.

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It's time for dinner, and a chance to find out what the trippers

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make of their close encounter with Dr Shostak.

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We're not scientists, we're just researchers, you know,

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and it would be great for him, like, from my point of view, I think,

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if he could just open his mind a little bit more.

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To use the term open-minded, you're ultimately

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saying people are closed-minded if they don't agree with you.

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-Well...

-That sounds like, "Agree with me."

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For you to believe that they're not being publically broadcast,

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you must buy into a conspiracy that the 'they' -

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government, NASA - are holding information back from you.

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-Yeah, I do.

-Why would they...?

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When someone from a...let's say a more advanced civilisation,

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from another planet, comes here and shows their face,

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we lose all power - everybody, us, the government, everyone.

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They could control everything. If they have the ability,

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-let's say, to travel here.

-But if they're already here, visiting here,

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then they already control us, ipso facto.

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-You know what, I think they are really clever.

-Maybe they do.

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These are real, you can see them, you can touch them.

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They're coming here, they're visiting us.

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Day three. And as we leave California and head towards Arizona,

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it's time to turn my attention to the youngest of the group.

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Will you please welcome up to the microphone your friend,

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-my friend, Ben! TRIPPERS:

-Yay!

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'25-year-old Ben lives in Durham and works as a barman.

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'Two years ago, Ben and his girlfriend

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'saw something strange out of their bedroom window.'

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And this kind of orb appeared, and this orb just exploded silently...

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..and these kind of five or six white objects just disappeared,

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and across the night sky, literally faster than you've ever seen

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anything travel in your entire life.

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After his UFO experience, Ben found faith in a creation theory

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linking humans with extraterrestrials.

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Every kind of society around the world, ancient ones especially,

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have kind of had a belief in gods.

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Who's to say that these guys weren't like living, breathing,

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flesh and blood kind of ETs from another planet?

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We could have been created in their image.

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Who's to say that God wasn't a living,

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kind of, breathing extraterrestrial?

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We're heading to Flagstaff, Arizona.

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I believe yourself, Ben, I'll put forward the idea that us humans

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are in some way descendents, or possibly related to aliens.

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-Yes.

-So we're on the way to meet

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a man by the name of PZ Myers.

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'PZ Myers is a leading evolutionary biologist.'

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-I am PZ Myers.

-Hi, Darren.

-Darren.

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'He doesn't rule out the possibility of extraterrestrial life.'

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-What are we talking about here?

-What did it look like?

-Yes.

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-OK, well, do you want me to draw one?

-Let's draw it...

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'He just thinks your average alien wouldn't look like us.'

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Is it so far-fetched that something could be

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-varied in that manner?

-Yes.

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The remarkable thing about the stereotypical alien is how much they

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look like us, how much they look like an infantilised human being.

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It's not likely though that an alien would have

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exactly this arrangement of features.

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Why couldn't the wheel be spun in the evolution of our planet

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and other planets and not make this?

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Because a lot of these features are contingent,

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they're historical accidents.

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Many of the features of our face are derived from fish

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and what we basically have is modified fish faces.

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For evolution to produce this creature from a completely

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independent lineage,

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on a completely different planet, with a completely different history,

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is ridiculously improbable.

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-Yeah.

-So you could have intelligent aliens on other worlds,

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but why would you expect the eyeballs right here?

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Why not put them somewhere else? Down here. Nostrils on the top.

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I do see where you're coming from with that point, yeah.

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I do see where you're coming from.

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Right, Ben seems to have been swayed by PZ's argument.

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Time to get back on the bus.

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We're heading down Route 375,

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known locally as the extraterrestrial highway,

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due to the large number

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of UFO sightings.

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And where there are sightings, there is always souvenirs.

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Do you not feel like all this merchandise

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and stuff is kind of taking the piss out of your opinions?

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It doesn't matter if you believe or not.

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These guys have got to make a living and, you know, fair play to them.

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Is this the sort of thing?

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Erm, yeah, pretty much.

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This is a fair enough representation?

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Um, kind of.

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But, yeah, kind of. Very muscular...

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-..big eyes, almond eyes.

-Quite scary though.

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He's similar to lots of people's accounts,

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eye-witness accounts, yeah.

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'Brigitte feels this cardboard cut-out is close to what aliens

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'really look like. To me, it's straight out of the movies.

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'But what do the others think?'

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Scottie, is this the sort of fella, is it?

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No, no. That's just the way that Hollywood would portray them.

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-No?

-Yeah, no, no.

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Well, he just looks pretty buff, and...

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He does. He's got a good abdominal area. Does the sit-ups.

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I mean, just look at the biceps, though, you know...

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He needs to do a few more reps with a lot more weight.

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He wouldn't have a chance against you?

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No. Even with a force field, I'd break through it, no problem at all.

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'Honestly, Scott is not joking!'

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It seems they all have their own personal version of the alien.

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We're taking a detour to Las Vegas.

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So far, I've questioned Brigitte on her UFO vision,

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and Ben about his theories of the origin of Man.

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Bing-bong! Hidey-hi, campers!

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TRIPPERS: Hidey-ho!

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Will you please welcome to the front of the bus

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our fellow road-tripper, Scott!

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Yay!

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'I'm now turning my attention to Scott,

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'who claims he was attacked by aliens in his own home.'

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My experiences were kind of odd to begin with.

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It begins with a mind attack.

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They're trying to break me down through my brain, to then take me on physically.

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Some time when I woke up, I would see figures coming towards me.

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So when these aliens were getting closer

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and closer, it was just at the last second, I was able to break free

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and foil the attempt of these abductions.

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I had no weapons. I was only in my pants, so I thought

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if I am up against a seven-foot beefcake, I've only got my underwear.

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32-year-old telecom technician Scott lives in Swindon

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and is married, with two kids.

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Since the attack,

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he's been preparing for the alien invasion of planet Earth.

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I've been preparing for about a year, at least.

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I've been researching what I would need.

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I got a lot of advice from people in America who'd been hit by

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tsunamis and hurricanes, just to see how they were preparing.

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Another box.

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I have salmon and tuna, ready-made meals as well.

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I've got an axe.

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Not only for self-defence, but I also use it,

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or I would use it, for chopping down trees, firewood.

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Scott's main fear is alien mind control.

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I'm going to be making another hat that I would wear

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just to protect my brain from a number of things.

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I'm going to get my wife to help me get it on, so it's just the right size, it fits right.

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He's come up with a simple force shield that anyone can make at home.

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Hold the front on.

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The problem will be how they influence,

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obviously, the way you think.

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Put you into trances. Make you do things that you don't want to do.

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People would just, you know, people would ridicule it.

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The mainstream media brainwash people.

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You're considered crazy if you believe in a conspiracy.

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You're just labelled the tinfoil hat brigade.

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When I go out in public, just not to alarm people...

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..cover it up.

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Scott is dead-set serious about all of this.

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He's picking up the last vital supplies for the battle ahead.

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Scott wants to take advantage of America's relaxed gun laws

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to try out the kind of weaponry he believes could thwart the alien attack.

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-I'd like to try and shoot a gun.

-OK.

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-If that's OK? And a handgun...

-OK.

-..that's not too heavy.

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-I'll give you a 9mm Glock.

-Great, OK.

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Sounds like you're at Specsavers. "Not too heavy, please."

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Maybe a pump action shotgun.

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Nervous? Better not be nervous, when the aliens come here,

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like, you've got to go straight for it, man.

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Put the red dot where you want the bullets to go, squeeze the trigger.

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-How do you feel?

-It's kind of a...

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a shock, the force of the weapon,

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-the power, the volume...

-One of them in your house?

-Not one of them, no.

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Do you feel this gun would protect you from an alien invasion?

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I think they might have a force field.

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'This whole gun thing ain't for me.'

0:19:010:19:03

CHEERING

0:19:060:19:08

Aaah! This is my universe!

0:19:080:19:12

'And I'm worried arming Scott is only taking this thing in a totally wrong direction.'

0:19:150:19:20

That's like the main kind of...

0:19:220:19:24

-..entry wound, if you like.

-Right.

0:19:250:19:27

And how do you feel, space warrior?

0:19:270:19:30

-It was actually really good fun.

-Seriously, I know you had fun,

0:19:300:19:33

I know that both of you wanted to do that.

0:19:330:19:35

I find guns chilling and unpleasant.

0:19:350:19:37

-Well, I'd rather live in a world without guns.

-Right.

0:19:370:19:40

But, no, you have people and, you know...

0:19:400:19:41

Is there a way that you could live in a world without thinking,

0:19:410:19:44

"Shit, it's aliens"?

0:19:440:19:46

-Yeah?

-There's so much attention on it, we're saturated by it.

0:19:460:19:48

Could you not just concentrate on something else?

0:19:480:19:51

Because genuinely, my worry is...

0:19:510:19:53

..I like you, but the idea of you arming and training

0:19:550:19:58

to defend your family in your house fills me with sadness beyond compare.

0:19:580:20:03

'We find ourselves in Sedona, Arizona,

0:20:140:20:17

'deep in the American Wild West.'

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Will you please help me welcome to the front of the bus

0:20:190:20:22

our fellow travelling companion Darren!

0:20:220:20:25

TRIPPERS CHEER

0:20:250:20:27

'33-year-old Darren is a hard-boiled UFO investigator.

0:20:270:20:31

'His detective work has led him into very dangerous territory.'

0:20:310:20:34

I've now become a well-known UFO investigative researcher in the UK.

0:20:370:20:42

I investigate crop circles, animal mutilations, abductions,

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and everything connected to the subject.

0:20:470:20:49

Darren lives in Shrewsbury and runs a UFO group.

0:20:560:21:00

In the past two years, he has gathered details on dozens

0:21:000:21:04

of cases of mutilated farm animals in his local area.

0:21:040:21:07

This is six hours since the animal was last

0:21:090:21:12

running around the field, jumping up and playing with its friends.

0:21:120:21:16

Some animal mutilation cases are believed to be linked

0:21:160:21:22

jointly with alien and military involvement,

0:21:220:21:25

where the military

0:21:250:21:27

work with the aliens, in whatever craft they use,

0:21:270:21:31

and then there's some sort of lab or bio...biotech place in the country.

0:21:310:21:38

Darren believes his investigations have disturbed

0:21:380:21:42

a secret alien world, making him a target.

0:21:420:21:44

Last year, on a sky watch, I got targeted -

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this is the word I'm going to use - by an unknown laser beam

0:21:520:21:57

in clear sky, which shot down to the ground...

0:21:570:21:59

right next to me with a crack, and it felt like I'd been electrocuted.

0:21:590:22:03

I felt sick, I felt nauseous, and it was witnessed by three other people.

0:22:030:22:06

Is it a weapon, Darren? Is it a weapon, do you think?

0:22:090:22:12

Could it... If it had hit you, would you have perished?

0:22:120:22:14

I didn't get hit by it.

0:22:140:22:15

If I got hit by it, maybe I'd have been alight or...

0:22:150:22:17

How bad was the damage?

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I'd have one eyebrow missing, or an ear missing, but...

0:22:190:22:21

If that shot was a warning to say,

0:22:210:22:23

"Look, we're here, stop looking at us," why are you still looking?

0:22:230:22:27

It's not going to stop me from what I'm doing, it's not going to put me off.

0:22:270:22:30

You know, I'm trying to get to the bottom of whatever it is.

0:22:300:22:35

'So far, I've had limited success with my trippers.

0:22:400:22:43

'So I'm going to try a little bit of reverse psychology.

0:22:430:22:46

'We're picking up a seasoned UFO investigator, Chris O'Brian.

0:22:490:22:54

'O'Brian's ideas on animal mutilations are so outlandish...'

0:22:540:22:58

-How are you doing there, Chris?

-All right.

0:22:580:23:01

'..I'm hoping they'll make Darren take another look at his own theories.'

0:23:010:23:05

The first thing I do when I go to a case is,

0:23:070:23:10

I look for cut hair follicles.

0:23:100:23:12

That, to me, is an indication that some sharp implement normally,

0:23:120:23:16

and, on rare occasions, a lasing instrument,

0:23:160:23:19

has actually made these horrific-looking cuts.

0:23:190:23:22

You want to go up to the top of the hill and, uh...make a left.

0:23:240:23:28

'Chris has brought us to the kind of farmland

0:23:310:23:33

'where these alien attacks apparently happen.'

0:23:330:23:35

My theory on this is that there's some health organisation

0:23:390:23:44

that's secret that may be attached to the UN, or some, you know,

0:23:440:23:47

sort of international body, that is

0:23:470:23:49

sampling livestock in specific geographic regions.

0:23:490:23:53

The actual organs that are excised

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and removed are the places in which humans develop cancer most often.

0:23:560:23:59

Check that out.

0:23:590:24:01

'A bizarre UN plan to come up with a cure for cancer? Really?!'

0:24:020:24:07

Darren, what do you think of this?

0:24:080:24:10

What do you think these animals mutilations are?

0:24:100:24:13

It's some sort of private or military involvement where

0:24:130:24:16

they're testing what's going in the food chain.

0:24:160:24:18

Do you think it's alien activity?

0:24:180:24:20

Yeah, quite... 99.9%, I'm sure that there's

0:24:200:24:23

an extraterrestrial presence.

0:24:230:24:25

I personally think we're dealing with an ancient predatory

0:24:250:24:29

presence that's as terrestrial as we are, it's just hidden to us.

0:24:290:24:32

It's either dimensional, it's either some sort of time-based thing.

0:24:320:24:37

It could be high-tech chefs coming back to...to get

0:24:370:24:40

a million dollar plate dinner material through time.

0:24:400:24:43

Possibly the UN, possibly aliens,

0:24:430:24:46

possibly a multi-dimensional ancient predator.

0:24:460:24:50

The World Health Organisation.

0:24:500:24:52

And possibly a time-travelling chef.

0:24:520:24:55

'My plan has backfired.

0:24:550:24:56

'Chris O'Brian's got Darren reeling with new and even wilder scenarios.'

0:24:570:25:01

If it gets reported through the veterinary channels,

0:25:060:25:09

where it goes to the authorities, something called a D notice

0:25:090:25:12

-is placed on the press, on the media...

-Yeah.

0:25:120:25:14

..and unless you're local, or you know the farmer,

0:25:140:25:17

-or you know investigators...

-You'd never know.

-..nobody knows about these cases.

0:25:170:25:20

-Right.

-The lid is shut tight.

0:25:200:25:22

'So too, it seems, is Darren's mind.

0:25:220:25:25

'The idea of time-travelling extraterrestrial

0:25:250:25:28

'chefs in search of a good steak dinner is not for me.'

0:25:280:25:31

MUSIC: "Can't Get You Out Of My Head" by Kylie Minogue

0:25:340:25:37

There is now only one member of the group whose conspiracy

0:25:410:25:43

I haven't yet tackled.

0:25:430:25:46

Franky.

0:25:460:25:47

She's not prepared to reveal it in front of the others,

0:25:480:25:52

but nine years ago, Franky had a mind-bending experience.

0:25:520:25:55

I was in my kitchen, washing up, listening to a bit of Kylie,

0:26:010:26:05

when suddenly, it was like the back of my spine lit up like, zhhh!

0:26:050:26:09

-OK. Like hairs on your neck?

-No.

-No?

0:26:110:26:13

It was like my spine itself lit up with energy

0:26:130:26:16

and this back part of my brain that I'd never used before, like, switched on

0:26:160:26:22

and I had a full-on vision of the inside of this spaceship city.

0:26:220:26:27

That's what I saw.

0:26:290:26:31

And it was like the most magnificent,

0:26:310:26:33

wonderful thing I'd ever seen.

0:26:330:26:36

Sincerely, round and round, you know, I'm not...taking the piss,

0:26:360:26:40

-but I feel duty-bound to ask, were you high?

-No.

0:26:400:26:44

Franky Marr is a full-time mum and lives in London.

0:26:510:26:54

Her vision has left her confused.

0:26:570:26:59

Could they be from another dimension, rather than from another planet?

0:27:000:27:05

She's also quite embarrassed.

0:27:060:27:08

Admitting, you know, these anomalous experiences,

0:27:100:27:12

it's essentially like admitting you have herpes.

0:27:120:27:15

I'm hoping my next expert, psychologist Dr Michael Shermer,

0:27:210:27:25

can convince Franky the alien city is all in her head.

0:27:250:27:28

He's the publisher of the Skeptic magazine.

0:27:310:27:33

-Oh, for fuck's sake!

-Boo!

0:27:330:27:36

'Franky is no mood for this expert.

0:27:360:27:40

'Michael is well known in UFO circles,

0:27:400:27:42

'and he's not exactly popular.'

0:27:420:27:44

We investigate all kinds of pseudoscientific...

0:27:450:27:48

baloney would be the nice word.

0:27:480:27:50

We have yet to even meet Dr Shermer and Franky is already on edge.

0:27:520:27:55

Now we're going to have to listen to one more person's fucking bullshit.

0:27:570:28:01

I say, bring him on.

0:28:010:28:02

That's not exactly the spirit of scientific inquiry I was

0:28:020:28:05

expecting from you, but perhaps that's how you agnostics roll.

0:28:050:28:07

He's a two-bit hustler. I'll listen to what

0:28:070:28:09

he has to say for about 4.5 minutes, and then we're off.

0:28:090:28:14

If you don't have the patience to meet this man,

0:28:140:28:16

and you've already decided that he's a two-bit hustler...

0:28:160:28:19

You're apparently the open-minded agnostic, but you're telling me

0:28:190:28:22

before you've even met the guy that he's a two-bit hustler...

0:28:220:28:25

I said I'd give him... Because he is.

0:28:250:28:26

And I said I will give him five minutes.

0:28:260:28:28

Actually, as an open-minded agnostic, I think I'm the one

0:28:280:28:31

-that actually knows more about him than anyone else here...

-Right.

0:28:310:28:35

Because I've researched him. That is my opinion of him.

0:28:350:28:38

I'm willing to give him five minutes.

0:28:380:28:41

-Five minutes?

-Five minutes, yeah.

-That's how long it takes

0:28:410:28:44

for your inquiring mind to make a decision, five minutes?

0:28:440:28:46

I've given him far more than five minutes. I've researched him for hours.

0:28:460:28:50

If you want me to get off the bus, I'll get off the bus.

0:28:500:28:52

No. I want you to sit down and be patient and get involved in it.

0:28:520:28:56

I just find, like...

0:28:560:28:57

-it's bullshit, man.

-Experience...

-Is everybody ready? Yeah.

0:28:570:29:02

-OK.

-So ready.

0:29:020:29:04

Ladies and gentlemen, can you please welcome on the bus

0:29:040:29:06

-Dr Michael Shermer.

-Hello, Michael.

0:29:060:29:09

-APPLAUSE

-Hi, guys.

0:29:090:29:11

So, some of us in the group have had, like, literally visions,

0:29:110:29:14

we've seen things.

0:29:140:29:15

I saw a red, glowing orb that was, like, pulsating like that.

0:29:150:29:21

And then as the sighting went on,

0:29:210:29:24

I saw two objects, like white arrowheads,

0:29:240:29:27

-fly over from one side of the horizon to the other...

-OK.

0:29:270:29:30

And then the same again with five objects.

0:29:300:29:32

What do you think it was?

0:29:320:29:33

I think... I believe it was a UFO, Unidentified Flying Object.

0:29:330:29:37

Why would you think that? What do you mean by UFO?

0:29:370:29:40

-It's an unidentified flying object, yes.

-Yeah.

0:29:400:29:42

-OK, but that's all we can say. It's just unidentified.

-Yeah.

0:29:420:29:45

OK, don't go any further than that. It's just unidentified.

0:29:450:29:48

-Yeah.

-End of story.

0:29:480:29:50

Until we can figure out what it is, we don't know.

0:29:500:29:52

These are called anomalous psychological experiences.

0:29:520:29:55

They come in a variety of flavours.

0:29:550:29:58

One can be triggered by sleep deprivation, fatigue.

0:29:580:30:02

Sometimes, under certain conditions, you sense

0:30:020:30:05

the presence of another person, or being, or creature.

0:30:050:30:09

Climbers that do K2 and Everest,

0:30:090:30:11

they will often have a shared hallucination of another

0:30:110:30:14

climber with them on the rope who isn't actually there,

0:30:140:30:17

and later, they'll talk about it. It's like, "Did you see that?"

0:30:170:30:20

"Yeah, yeah, I saw it." And this is called the sense presence effect.

0:30:200:30:23

I do kind of wonder - are you being paid to be here today,

0:30:230:30:26

or have you just come along because you're promoting your magazine, etc?

0:30:260:30:31

OK, here's our general position on UFOs. Um...

0:30:310:30:34

So there's a body of you and you have one general position?

0:30:340:30:37

No, no, no, no.

0:30:370:30:38

There's no such thing, of course, but I'm just speaking in general,

0:30:380:30:41

the sense of people I know that work in this business.

0:30:410:30:44

So there's two questions - are there aliens out there?

0:30:440:30:47

-Have they come here?

-Yeah.

0:30:470:30:48

Most of us scientists tend to think that there is probably

0:30:480:30:52

extraterrestrial life teeming throughout the galaxy, right?

0:30:520:30:55

Yeah, yeah, I get that.

0:30:550:30:56

At least bacterial grade, maybe even intelligent life, right?

0:30:560:30:59

Now, the chances of going from, say, something like a Neanderthal,

0:30:590:31:03

which is a pretty advanced, big-brained creature making tools,

0:31:030:31:07

to actually achieving space flight or radio communication

0:31:070:31:11

that we can make contact with, that's a much harder step to make.

0:31:110:31:15

I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but I totally disagree

0:31:150:31:18

because it's been my personal experience,

0:31:180:31:21

and lots of other factors are involved in that.

0:31:210:31:24

Unfortunately, our idea that we're rational beings that can

0:31:240:31:29

correctly perceive the world around us turns out not to be the case.

0:31:290:31:32

We are very irrational, emotional, and we misperceive things all the time.

0:31:320:31:36

From a scientist's perspective, it's OK to just say,

0:31:360:31:38

-"I don't know."

-Mmm-hmm.

-And let's just let it sit there.

0:31:380:31:41

-But that's what I've always said.

-We don't have to... Perfect.

0:31:410:31:44

We don't have to construct a whole world view of aliens coming here,

0:31:440:31:46

and conspiracies, and Men In Black, and cover-up,

0:31:460:31:49

and government this and that, you don't have to do that,

0:31:490:31:51

you can just let it sit as like, "Wow, that was really interesting."

0:31:510:31:54

-And that's it.

-I was not looking forward to meeting you,

0:31:540:31:57

but now that I have, I think you're really quite cool.

0:31:570:31:59

-You were only going to give him five minutes.

-I was going to give you

0:31:590:32:02

five minutes and then go stomping off to the bar.

0:32:020:32:04

-Thank you, Michael.

-That's our job.

0:32:040:32:06

-Thank you, dude All right.

-All right.

-Bye!

0:32:060:32:08

-TRIPPERS:

-Bye!

-Wave off the sceptic.

0:32:080:32:10

-TRIPPERS:

-Goodbye.

0:32:100:32:11

I'm more than halfway through my 1,000-mile trip.

0:32:170:32:19

I've had only limited success taking on my trippers' personal theories.

0:32:210:32:25

So now it's time to tackle the mother of all UFO conspiracies.

0:32:290:32:32

It centres around Area 51...

0:32:350:32:38

..a top-secret military base located deep in the Nevada desert.

0:32:390:32:43

It's a weapons-testing facility.

0:32:470:32:49

But my lot also believe aliens are being held there...

0:32:530:32:56

..brought from the infamous 1947 flying saucer crash at Roswell.

0:32:580:33:03

-Hello, fellow road trippers! TRIPPERS:

-Hello.

0:33:130:33:17

-Now, we've all heard of Area 51. TRIPPERS:

-Yes.

0:33:170:33:21

It's kind of a key piece in the whole carry-on, correct?

0:33:210:33:25

-Yeah.

-Right.

0:33:250:33:27

Well, we've lined up a guy who apparently has

0:33:270:33:29

the inside scoop on Area 51.

0:33:290:33:31

John Lear is a decorated pilot who spent years

0:33:330:33:36

flying covert missions for the CIA.

0:33:360:33:38

Lear claims his work within the US intelligence community

0:33:410:33:45

has given him the inside knowledge on Area 51.

0:33:450:33:47

There was rumoured to be kind of alien beings taken to Area 51,

0:33:520:33:55

-is that true?

-There were two live ones

0:33:550:33:58

and three deceased aliens in the two crashes that happened.

0:33:580:34:02

-One is...friendly and the other is not so friendly.

-Yeah?

0:34:020:34:08

'Hold tight! I didn't know this was his angle.'

0:34:090:34:12

Well, they have this big half-sphere where he lives inside, and...

0:34:150:34:21

when the President and Vice President, Head of the CIA,

0:34:210:34:25

want to see him, there's a big balcony,

0:34:250:34:28

and this is all on the Internet, there's very good drawings

0:34:280:34:31

-of all this stuff, and they bring him up in this half sphere.

-Good.

0:34:310:34:34

-FRANKY:

-And what kind of alien was it?

0:34:340:34:36

They call that the J-Rod.

0:34:360:34:38

It definitely wasn't a grey, but the government calls it a J-Rod.

0:34:380:34:42

But why don't... Why doesn't the J-Rod's people...

0:34:420:34:45

either rescue him, or at least just go,

0:34:450:34:48

"Hang on, we'll just go over the head of them and...

0:34:480:34:50

"reveal ourselves, like, by literally flying over downtown Manhattan"?

0:34:500:34:55

The aliens are not allowed to give us an over...message.

0:34:550:34:59

Who doesn't allow them?

0:34:590:35:01

The guys that made us.

0:35:010:35:02

Those guys have been around here for billions of years.

0:35:040:35:07

'This stuff is so off the hook.

0:35:090:35:11

'My trippers aren't really believing this, are they?'

0:35:110:35:13

The Earth is 11 billion years old. The moon is 20 billion years old

0:35:150:35:21

and was fabricated inside the planet Jupiter.

0:35:210:35:24

'I'm not buying any of this,

0:35:260:35:28

'but John insists he has photographic evidence.'

0:35:280:35:31

This is a picture of the moon.

0:35:310:35:33

I can tell you that this is 125 miles northwest of Copernicus,

0:35:330:35:39

but this is a city, and you can see the houses, the buildings.

0:35:390:35:42

Here is an aeroplane. Here's the different houses, trees, bushes,

0:35:420:35:47

all down here is just all kinds of factories, factories up here.

0:35:470:35:53

-There's 1.5 to two billion people living up there.

-Really?

-Yeah.

0:35:530:35:58

'I was expecting this former CIA man to be super straight-laced.

0:36:020:36:06

'But his stuff seems to be the most outlandish yet.

0:36:060:36:10

'And it seems to have put off Ben a little.'

0:36:100:36:12

I kind of believe all of his theories on the bases -

0:36:140:36:18

Area 51 and such, it sounds very plausible, but some of the things what he said

0:36:180:36:22

were quite out-there, right? Like the moon was made inside Jupiter?

0:36:220:36:26

There's no science to back that up at all.

0:36:270:36:30

You go down this rabbit hole of...

0:36:300:36:32

-Yeah, yeah.

-..crazy UFO theories, it just...it only gets worse, Ben.

0:36:320:36:36

-It gets, it gets...

-Yeah.

0:36:360:36:37

-You're right, it has shocked me.

-There are 25 billion people on the moon!

-Yeah, yeah, I know.

0:36:370:36:42

-This is...

-You're right.

-But, Benny, is this your view, dude?

0:36:420:36:45

-Hopefully, you won't... I see what you're saying, but...

-That's Christmas Future, man.

-Yeah.

0:36:450:36:49

After our out-of-this-world encounter with John Lear,

0:36:580:37:00

I decide the only solution to the problem is to turn

0:37:000:37:04

the bus around and head straight for Area 51.

0:37:040:37:07

So we're back on the Extraterrestrial Highway,

0:37:130:37:16

with only Elvis to guide us.

0:37:160:37:17

MUSIC: "Rock-A-Hula Baby" by Elvis

0:37:170:37:21

Late that afternoon, we locate an unmarked track leading to

0:37:320:37:36

the infamous secret base, but things are about to go very wrong.

0:37:360:37:40

MUSIC: "THE TWILIGHT ZONE" THEME

0:37:420:37:44

These few secretly taken photographs are our only record of our visit.

0:37:440:37:49

We arrived at Area 51 checkpoint.

0:37:540:37:56

To me, it seemed like an ordinary military facility.

0:37:590:38:02

But my companions were convinced this was the gateway to

0:38:040:38:08

the extraterrestrial secrets.

0:38:080:38:10

We got a bit overexcited and we strayed into the restricted zone...

0:38:130:38:17

to ask where the aliens were being kept!

0:38:170:38:20

But after knocking on the guardhouse door, we found ourselves

0:38:210:38:25

lying on the ground with gun barrels pointed at our heads.

0:38:250:38:29

-SIREN WAILS

-Stay on the ground!

0:38:290:38:30

The military police had detained us for trespassing

0:38:330:38:36

and confiscated our cameras.

0:38:360:38:38

'Four hours later, we were back on the bus, after being released

0:38:460:38:50

'without charge, but with just a camera phone to capture our relief.'

0:38:500:38:53

You must shuffle towards the enemy.

0:38:530:38:54

Ladies and gentlemen, can we please raise a toast to our freedom!

0:38:540:38:57

-TRIPPERS:

-Yay!

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We are the only group of people who can say, when somebody asks us,

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"Have you ever heard of Area 51, man?"

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We can say, "Heard of it? We've danced on it!"

0:39:120:39:16

-TRIPPERS:

-Yeah!

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There's the signs warning us not to cross the barrier...

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'After last night's high jinx and shenanigans, it's time for a debrief.'

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So does it make you feel, now that you've actually been to Area 51?

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Make you feel like there's more, or less, likelihood of any UFO business, alien business?

0:39:380:39:43

I still believe that they've got some sort of life form

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and extraterrestrial craft.

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Why can't you conceive of the idea that just

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human scientists could've come up with a stealth bomber?

0:39:510:39:54

No, not so quickly, not so quickly.

0:39:540:39:56

We've evolved so quickly within technology.

0:39:560:39:58

Yeah, but have you ever heard of Moore's Law?

0:39:580:40:00

Computing power doubles every two years.

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You don't need an alien craft, you just... The more humans talk,

0:40:030:40:08

the faster technology develops. So do you all still believe?

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I think they have got a non-terrestrial life form and craft in it.

0:40:120:40:17

-Ben?

-Same for me, this doesn't change anything.

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It was a great experience but, like I said,

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I think it would've happened at any military kind of base,

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but, yeah, so basically, I still believe, yeah.

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Our arrest has achieved nothing but fan more flames of suspicion.

0:40:310:40:34

We've been denied access to Area 51, but Darren still thinks

0:40:390:40:43

he has a chance to prove to me that aliens are real.

0:40:430:40:45

We're heading back to the perimeter of the base.

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We are going to go down to a special place in Area 51 history

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called the Black Mailbox.

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We're looking for the only landmark in this barren

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stretch of desert highway - the Black Mailbox.

0:41:020:41:05

'It turns out the Black Mailbox is actually white.'

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The famous Black Mailbox of Ufology fame.

0:41:140:41:20

'Black or white, if I'm ever going to see an alien, this is probably

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'where it's going to be.'

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This spot, it has the best views over to the mountain range.

0:41:260:41:29

Behind that mountain range is Area 51.

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It's got the best light, it's open.

0:41:320:41:34

People say it's the best place cos you can see things

0:41:340:41:36

coming up from the base, if they come up.

0:41:360:41:38

-What do you mean? By things, you mean spaceships?

-Maybe UFOs.

0:41:390:41:43

Anything could come up from there, it's Area 51, so, yeah.

0:41:440:41:48

-Sweet as a nut, let's get...

-But this is it.

0:41:480:41:50

-Let's get started then, come on.

-Yay!

0:41:500:41:52

All right, let's start looking.

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Hey, aliens!

0:41:590:42:01

-Send me your most funny alien!

-Right, I'll take... Yeah, he's right.

0:42:010:42:04

-You see that flashing?

-Shitting hell!

0:42:040:42:06

'Wow, Darren's actually spotted something over Area 51.'

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Oh, there you go, it's right there.

0:42:100:42:12

-Up there too! There are three, look, there!

-Look at that shit.

0:42:120:42:15

-Fuck you!

-Look, they even turn around!

0:42:150:42:17

-Fuck you!

-Turn around!

0:42:170:42:19

Everybody, everybody that said they didn't exist,

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there they fucking are!

0:42:210:42:23

-They're military flares. Sorry.

-No, they're not, they're not flares.

0:42:240:42:27

'Unfortunately, not all you see is to be believed.'

0:42:270:42:30

-They are military flares.

-No, that's aliens.

-They're flares.

0:42:300:42:32

Why is the army sending up flares?

0:42:320:42:34

Right. What they do with flares, we're over, you know,

0:42:340:42:37

this air force bombing range and Area 51

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and the flares are used as away points for aircraft.

0:42:400:42:43

But there's no aircraft, so why are they firing flares?

0:42:430:42:46

Exactly, why are they firing flares? BOOM!

0:42:460:42:48

-Fucking hell! What the fuck was that?!

-Excellent.

0:42:480:42:51

What the fuck is that?!

0:42:510:42:52

There you go, that's a sonic boom, isn't it?

0:42:520:42:54

-Yeah.

-Ah, missed it.

-Sonic boom.

-Hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo!

-Sonic boom.

0:42:540:42:57

'It's easy to see how these flares

0:42:590:43:01

'and secret aeroplanes could be misconstrued.'

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# I saw a UFO in the sky last night

0:43:060:43:12

# Made me wonder if... #

0:43:120:43:14

'It's been a long night

0:43:140:43:15

'and, despite all the evidence to the contrary, most of my trippers

0:43:150:43:19

'still think that Area 51 is a hotbed of alien activity.'

0:43:190:43:22

MUSIC: "Viva Las Vegas" by Elvis

0:43:270:43:29

-Bing-bong! Welcome to Las Vegas. TRIPPERS:

-Yay!

0:43:340:43:38

I'm going to have one last-ditch attempt

0:43:410:43:43

at trying to discredit the Area 51 myth.

0:43:430:43:46

Today, we are going to meet a lady by the name of Annie Jacobson.

0:43:480:43:52

She is a writer, historian, and expert on Area 51.

0:43:520:43:57

# Viva Las Vegas

0:43:570:44:00

# Viva Las Vegas... #

0:44:000:44:04

'I'm hoping Annie can help me persuade

0:44:040:44:06

'my fellow travelling companions of the simple truth about Area 51.'

0:44:060:44:10

Many people believe it is an underworld of captured aliens

0:44:100:44:14

and UFOs, as you say.

0:44:140:44:16

In my experience, interviewing 74 men who worked

0:44:160:44:20

and lived on the base, I didn't come across a single source

0:44:200:44:23

that told me about an extraterrestrial.

0:44:230:44:25

You don't believe that any kind of craft or aliens went there at all, in your opinion?

0:44:250:44:30

Well, what I do believe is that the CIA uses any

0:44:300:44:34

and all means to keep their secret programmes secret.

0:44:340:44:38

And often, what that involves is information and disinformation.

0:44:380:44:44

So if they're trying to keep a programme secret

0:44:440:44:46

and people are busy talking about UFOs, it's a convenient way to not have people ask,

0:44:460:44:53

"What's going on with that top-secret spy plane?"

0:44:530:44:56

From my point of view as an investigative researcher into this phenomenon, I have to consider

0:44:560:45:03

that there is some sort of...

0:45:030:45:06

captured non-terrestrial. You have to...

0:45:060:45:08

All these crashes, they all happened at the height of the Cold War.

0:45:080:45:11

The Soviet Union and America were in an arms race

0:45:110:45:14

to build the most sophisticated aircraft. It would've been

0:45:140:45:18

so much handier for them to go, "Yeah, yeah, there's an alien."

0:45:180:45:21

I've come across a lot of information that the idea of aliens

0:45:210:45:27

having come to Earth is a convenient disinformation tool for the CIA.

0:45:270:45:31

'So there is a government cover-up surrounding Area 51,

0:45:310:45:35

'but it concerns US foreign policy and the design of high-tech weapons.

0:45:350:45:40

'It's got nothing to do with flying saucers.

0:45:400:45:42

'Annie even introduces us to Richard Mingus, a retired Area 51 employee.

0:45:450:45:51

'He worked at the base for 36 years

0:45:510:45:53

'and was responsible for guarding the U-2 spy plane project.'

0:45:530:45:57

You obviously observed lots of types of military aircraft.

0:45:590:46:04

If something had flown in the skies that was slightly

0:46:040:46:08

a little bit more different, and you felt that it was different,

0:46:080:46:11

wouldn't you sort of be able to differentiate between the two,

0:46:110:46:15

whether it be our craft here, government craft, or something else?

0:46:150:46:20

You're asking me, did I see really anything different than,

0:46:200:46:23

-like, the U-2?

-Yeah.

0:46:230:46:24

-No.

-OK.

0:46:280:46:29

The most extraordinary thing that people

0:46:290:46:32

say about Area 51 is that there is captured aliens there.

0:46:320:46:36

I did not see aliens, or did I see any spaceships.

0:46:360:46:41

I've seen no conspiracies of any kind taking place out there.

0:46:430:46:47

'Well, that's a pretty definitive statement to me.

0:46:490:46:52

'What do the gang think?'

0:46:520:46:54

I'm 99.9% sure that they've got an ET craft and/or

0:46:540:46:59

beings on this planet, possibly at Area 51.

0:46:590:47:02

They could be in other places.

0:47:020:47:04

And that's my personal opinion, from experience.

0:47:040:47:06

-Yeah, totally.

-Everything what you've just said there,

0:47:060:47:09

that's my view as well, I couldn't put it better.

0:47:090:47:12

Your margin of doubt is only 1,000th?

0:47:120:47:13

From my own research, yeah,

0:47:130:47:16

-it's the conclusion we've come to, right? Yeah.

-Yes.

-Yeah.

0:47:160:47:19

And I'll stand by that.

0:47:190:47:21

'Blimey O'Reilly! Right.

0:47:210:47:23

'Well, I haven't got a hope in hell of changing their minds,

0:47:230:47:26

'and Annie's got an extra twist to her story too.'

0:47:260:47:28

Proving whether you believe in aliens or not, Area 51

0:47:290:47:33

seems to have the power to inspire tall tales.

0:47:330:47:36

According to my ,source there was a saucer-shaped craft that was

0:47:360:47:42

sent by Stalin and crashed in the New Mexico desert. The crash

0:47:420:47:47

was subsequently moved to Area 51 in 1951, according to my source.

0:47:470:47:53

The reason he has this information, and I believe him, is because

0:47:530:47:57

in that part of the programme, he was a first-hand witness.

0:47:570:48:00

Like, how did it get there? Was it literally rocket-propelled?

0:48:000:48:03

What we are led to believe is that the craft was actually anti-gravity.

0:48:030:48:07

The craft was actually piggy-backed onto another larger craft,

0:48:070:48:10

and that is my understanding of how that saucer got here, yes.

0:48:100:48:13

That's cool.

0:48:130:48:15

'Just when I think things can't get any weirder, they do.'

0:48:150:48:18

This craft was sent over, and out came these non-consenting airmen,

0:48:190:48:26

-let's say, that had been surgically altered to look like Martians.

-Wow.

0:48:260:48:33

And that is the great horror behind that story.

0:48:330:48:37

And that physical evidence, according to my source,

0:48:370:48:41

was moved to Area 51 and has been there for decades.

0:48:410:48:45

Was there any follow-up to what happened to these deformed Russians?

0:48:450:48:49

Well, that's where the story becomes very, very secretive

0:48:490:48:52

and that's where the source would not share any more information with us.

0:48:520:48:57

I feel like I'm chasing my tail here.

0:48:580:49:00

If it's not aliens, it's the Cold War.

0:49:000:49:02

And it seems to be even getting too much for Scott.

0:49:030:49:06

I came on here for answers, and I'm just really disillusioned

0:49:080:49:11

now about... There's just so many different fantastic theories

0:49:110:49:13

out there and it's just, where do they all come from? There's just no answers anywhere.

0:49:130:49:18

I've just kind of given up with the subject at the moment.

0:49:180:49:21

It seems not even Scott's tin-foil hat can protect him

0:49:250:49:28

from this mental overload.

0:49:280:49:30

'We're coming to the end of our trip and we're all exhausted.

0:49:350:49:38

'I don't know how much appetite for UFOs I still have...

0:49:400:49:43

'..but there's still one last angle to Brigitte's story I need to explore.

0:49:460:49:51

'Moments after witnessing a 45-foot flying saucer over an LA freeway...

0:49:550:50:00

'..Brigitte claims she had an even closer encounter.'

0:50:010:50:04

All of a sudden, it felt like I was being sucked through

0:50:060:50:09

the steering wheel, out through the dashboard, through the car engine.

0:50:090:50:14

I then recall being in a field, beings being there.

0:50:140:50:19

Now, they weren't a typical grey type of beings,

0:50:190:50:21

they were kind of see-through, flesh-coloured, with veins,

0:50:210:50:26

quite muscular, with hair, the hair was white...

0:50:260:50:31

..and one of them had a child and tried to present me with this child.

0:50:320:50:36

If I was heavily religious and I had Jesus in front of me,

0:50:360:50:41

I would explain it as that.

0:50:410:50:43

So she's not only seen aliens, she's been abducted by them.

0:50:470:50:52

As the final proof of all her claims,

0:50:520:50:55

she's agreed to take a lie-detector test.

0:50:550:50:57

If she's telling porky pies, her heart rate, blood pressure,

0:50:590:51:03

and respiration will give the game away.

0:51:030:51:05

You can pass a polygraph test if you listen carefully

0:51:080:51:10

to every word of the question, please put it visually to me.

0:51:100:51:14

Everything's in place and Brigitte is ready to take the lie-detector test.

0:51:160:51:20

But I'm having second thoughts now.

0:51:220:51:24

What do you think, Brigitte, do you want to do it?

0:51:280:51:30

You do? Are you sure?

0:51:300:51:32

''I think doing this, and it...'

0:51:330:51:35

her failing it could probably hurt her more than all the aliens she's ever met.

0:51:350:51:40

'She's just a nice lady who has had a lot of'

0:51:440:51:46

really odd things happen to her

0:51:460:51:49

that, for me, seem tall in the tale division, but...

0:51:490:51:53

..I don't need to...we don't need to do this.

0:51:550:51:57

I just.. This is... It's fucking awful.

0:51:590:52:01

Hey, listen, I'm sorry to disturb and I don't usually pull rank on this one,

0:52:090:52:14

Brigitte, but... Sorry to interrupt, Ron,

0:52:140:52:16

but I don't want to do this, and I don't want you to do it.

0:52:160:52:20

I don't think it's necessary and I'd rather you didn't, Brigitte.

0:52:210:52:24

I kind of don't need to know.

0:52:250:52:27

I like you. I'd rather you tell me your stories

0:52:290:52:32

and just leave it at that. Yeah?

0:52:320:52:34

Yeah?

0:52:340:52:35

Come on, you. Come on. Come on.

0:52:360:52:40

-I'm going to start crying...

-Come on. There's no need. Come on.

0:52:400:52:43

I was willing to do this.

0:52:430:52:44

I know you were, darling, but I don't need to know.

0:52:440:52:47

-OK.

-All right?

-Yeah.

-OK.

0:52:470:52:49

'I can't help feeling Brigitte's whole identity is closely connected

0:52:500:52:54

'to her faith in extraterrestrial beings...

0:52:540:52:56

'and I'm not here to put her through a test that's going to destroy

0:52:580:53:01

'her entire belief system and leave her all Christmas and no Santa.'

0:53:010:53:06

Come on. Come on. All right?

0:53:060:53:09

We're done. At the end of it all,

0:53:130:53:16

I still don't believe in alien conspiracies.

0:53:160:53:19

Many people have a need to explain to themselves how the world works,

0:53:230:53:27

and for my trippers, extraterrestrial life

0:53:270:53:30

provides some reassuring answers.

0:53:300:53:32

So what are they taking back from the road trip?

0:53:340:53:38

I came here thinking that I might get some sort of fact or answer,

0:53:380:53:41

and I haven't got anything,

0:53:410:53:42

which just makes me think that there isn't an answer.

0:53:420:53:45

I don't want to sit around any more thinking, what's true and what's not, you know?

0:53:450:53:48

I'd rather just forget about it... and focus on other things.

0:53:480:53:52

Well, that's a turn-up for the books.

0:53:520:53:56

I do hope Scott will be able to take his mind off the alien invasion from now on

0:53:560:54:00

and get on with his life in Swindon.

0:54:000:54:02

But what about Franky?

0:54:030:54:05

UFOs exist. That is a fact.

0:54:060:54:10

What they are - whether they're extraterrestrial, interdimensional,

0:54:100:54:14

government cover-up, or at the other end of the spectrum,

0:54:140:54:19

natural phenomenon that people don't recognise - to me, that issue

0:54:190:54:23

is separate from the whole alien abduction experience issue as well.

0:54:230:54:27

'At one point, I thought Ben was going to have a shift of perspective...

0:54:270:54:31

'..but he seems as certain as ever of extraterrestrial life.'

0:54:340:54:37

The whole kind of UFO issue,

0:54:370:54:39

I think it just stems from my personal belief and, like,

0:54:390:54:42

my actual sighting itself. It's, like, forever burned in my mind, you know?

0:54:420:54:47

So I've still got my beliefs that there are

0:54:470:54:50

UFOs in the sky and that we are being visited by extraterrestrials.

0:54:500:54:54

I've got nowhere at all with Darren,

0:54:560:54:58

who is still 99.9% convinced aliens and government agencies

0:54:580:55:03

are up to all sorts of galactic shenanigans.

0:55:030:55:06

It's all about awareness. It's all about telling people

0:55:060:55:09

what you find out and what you know, but the UFO subject is a big conspiracy.

0:55:090:55:14

The truth is out there, we just need to find it.

0:55:140:55:16

'As for Brigitte...'

0:55:160:55:18

Have you changed your opinion on anything?

0:55:180:55:20

Definitely not. Definitely not.

0:55:200:55:23

'Oh, well! I've decided to take her just the way she is.'

0:55:230:55:27

You have my undivided attention, Brigitte, I am now going to

0:55:270:55:30

put on my specs, kick back... I want your most high-strange story.

0:55:300:55:36

-OK.

-Well, I have to give you my recent high strangeness story.

0:55:360:55:40

-All right.

-If you start snoring, I'm going to fucking whack you, mate.

0:55:400:55:43

I won't. I promise, I promise, I promise. Go for it.

0:55:430:55:46

-OK, I'm going to the store...

-OK.

-..to go and get some groceries. I...

0:55:460:55:49

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