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This programme contains some scenes which some viewers may find upsetting. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
This is a family like no other. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
The House of Saud has untold wealth and power. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
Thousands of royal princes live lavish lifestyles | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
and they have unique access to the world's rulers... | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
..but their kingdom was born out of conflict. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
Saudi Arabia, when it was created, it was a jihadi project. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
For decades, there have been allegations | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
of financial support for terror. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
We started the investigation and all roads led to Saudi Arabia | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
and now it's time that they pay for what they did. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
Now, evidence is emerging | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
of Saudi money reaching the most brutal extremists. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
The fighters, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:50 | |
they like the fact that they are being supported by the Saudis. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
The House of Saud has often promised change, but have they done enough? | 0:00:54 | 0:01:00 | |
Saudi Arabia has spent billions of dollars | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
supporting what it calls and regards as freedom fighters. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
Now, a new Crown Prince is promising a return | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
to a so-called moderate Islam. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
Having the Crown Prince come up and say it in Arabic boldly in public | 0:01:16 | 0:01:21 | |
sent a very, very strong message. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
But in the face of brutal regional conflict, | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
what is the future for Saudi Arabia and the world? | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
Osve, a tiny hamlet in the mountains of Eastern Europe - | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
an unlikely place to find the black flag of jihad. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:08 | |
But men from this Bosnian village have travelled | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
and fought for the so-called Islamic State in Syria. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
It's the latest chapter in the history of radicalisation | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
in the heart of Europe. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:22 | |
CALL TO PRAYER | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
50 miles away in the Bosnian capital Sarajevo | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
stands the 450-year-old al-Pasha Mosque. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
We are one of the oldest mosques in Bosnia-Herzegovina. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
We teach and preach here Islam that is open, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
that Islam is human, that Islam is altruistic | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
and this Islam we have preserved here for five centuries. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
Just across the city is a very different mosque. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
Paid for by Saudi Arabia, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
the King Fahd Mosque is the largest in Bosnia. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
They built this very large mosque. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
The Saudis' view is they were supporting the spread of Islam. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
Since the 1990s, Saudi charities have poured money into Bosnia. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:33 | |
It's claimed they helped build 120 new mosques. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
I mean, it was complete change in the way | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
Islam was being followed in the country. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
A leaked intelligence briefing from the US Embassy in Sarajevo | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
warned that there were radical extremists | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
focused on the new mosques and schools. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
They are employers of ideology, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
they try to harm people, which are poor... | 0:04:01 | 0:04:06 | |
..which are socially vulnerable, which are unemployed, who are, er... | 0:04:07 | 0:04:15 | |
..who are illiterate, uneducated. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
They didn't have any chance to educate. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
The arrival of this violent sectarian ideology | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
dates from the 1990s and the bitter war that raged for four years | 0:04:29 | 0:04:34 | |
between Bosnian Muslims and the largely orthodox Christian Serbs | 0:04:34 | 0:04:39 | |
and Catholic Croats. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:40 | |
The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia backed the Muslim cause. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
Saudi charities supplied humanitarian aid. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
Foreign jihadists also answered the call. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
The Kingdom has always denied arming them, but what is the truth? | 0:05:00 | 0:05:05 | |
This was the mujaheddin's headquarters in the city | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
of Zenica during the war. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
On the wall, an Arabic slogan reads, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
"Whenever it is, death is a blessing." | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
The secret Nato report from the time claims the Saudi government | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
and some Saudi charities funded foreign fighters | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
and even bought weapons for them. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
Saudi Arabia knew exactly what the various charities were up to. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
Money was sent to a charity for good purposes | 0:05:40 | 0:05:46 | |
and then some of it was creamed off | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
for supporting mujaheddin or whoever. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
The report named one charity, Al Waqf Al Islami, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
that was supposedly providing Islamic education. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
In fact, it was also funding and recruiting foreign fighters. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:06 | |
Saudi Arabia has spent billions of dollars supporting what it calls | 0:06:07 | 0:06:13 | |
and regards as freedom fighters - first in Afghanistan, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
then in Bosnia, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:18 | |
and of course in Palestine and elsewhere. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
Bruce Riedel worked at the CIA for 30 years | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
and advised four American presidents on the Middle East. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
And if you look at the funding of Saudi support for groups like | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
the Afghan mujaheddin or the Bosnians, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
one figure turns up over and over again... | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
..His Royal Highness King Salman. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
He's the one who had the responsibility to pass the hat, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
if you like, among the royals | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
and collect the money which went to these groups. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
King Salman is at the heart of this whole enterprise of supporting | 0:06:58 | 0:07:04 | |
what Saudis believe to be holy causes, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
fighting for the defence of Muslim lands. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
For decades, King Salman was the House of Saud's fundraiser-in-chief | 0:07:12 | 0:07:17 | |
for those holy causes, but now his own son, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
the new power behind the throne, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:26 | |
has promised to put an end to Saudi extremism. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
It is a bold and remarkable pledge. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
Saudi Arabia, when it was created, it was a jihadi project. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
The al-Saud mobilised the tribal groups, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
they armed them and they sent them on a jihadi rampage | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
around the Arabian Peninsula at the time and that resulted | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
in the creation of Saudi Arabia. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
The modern state of Saudi Arabia owes its existence | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
to an ancient alliance between the House of Saud | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
and the supporters of an ultraconservative brand of Islam. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
It's often called Wahabism and it preaches a return to the values | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
of seventh-century Arabia and the time of the Prophet Muhammad. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
The religious establishment pledges its allegiance to the King | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
and in return he pledges to defend | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
and spread Wahabi radical Islam around the world. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
The peculiar variant of Islam that Saudi Arabia supports - | 0:08:41 | 0:08:47 | |
Wahabism, as we call it - is kind of the petri dish | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
in which much more extreme versions of Islam will flourish. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
Al-Qaeda finds its spiritual | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
and theocratic routes in Wahabism. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
CHANTING | 0:09:09 | 0:09:10 | |
Islamic State, the same thing. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
One needs to be careful and not accuse the Kingdom of being | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
the patron state sponsor of groups like Al-Qaeda and Islamic State, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
that's not the case... | 0:09:21 | 0:09:22 | |
..but it is very much a state with an ideology | 0:09:23 | 0:09:29 | |
that is very intolerant of outsiders | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
and very, very, very much inclined towards sectarianism within Islam, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:39 | |
and a violent form of sectarianism. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
The Crown Prince made his bold commitment | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
to destroy extremist ideology last October. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
The Crown Prince says 30 years was wasted | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
dealing with extremist ideas. | 0:09:58 | 0:09:59 | |
You're not going to turn the Saudi religious establishment | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
into California liberals, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:11 | |
but what you want to do is you want to use their prestige | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
and their stature to fight terrorism | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
and to fight extremist language. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
That is a gradual process, but having the Crown Prince come up | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
and say it in Arabic boldly in public | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
sent a very, very strong message that the leadership | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
is determined to not allow this language | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
and this thinking to spread or to be nurtured by anybody in the country. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:40 | |
It's certainly an acknowledgement | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
that the ultraconservative form of religion that's practised there | 0:10:43 | 0:10:49 | |
has indeed been a bit more accommodating - shall we say? - | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
to extremism than the more moderate form | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
that he would like to have Saudi return to, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
in his words. | 0:10:58 | 0:10:59 | |
I think the real issue is, will this be a transition or really begin | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
a revolution that results in a more moderate form of Islam | 0:11:03 | 0:11:08 | |
that is practised in the Kingdom | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
and then also, frankly, that is promoted elsewhere? | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
-NEWS REPORT: -The World Trade Center, Tower Number One, is on fire. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
The whole outside of the building... | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:11:21 | 0:11:22 | |
Almost 3,000 people were killed in the 9/11 attacks. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
EMERGENCY SERVICES MESSAGE | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
Stay back! | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis... | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
Stay clear. Await the collapse of one of the towers. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
..and the trail led straight back to Bosnia | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
and the allegations of Saudi funding of extremism. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
Sean Carter is a lead lawyer in an historic legal case | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
against the government of Saudi Arabia. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
He's spent more than a decade weighing the evidence. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
The 9/11 families bringing the case believe Saudi involvement | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
goes much further than radicalisation. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
They allege the Al-Qaeda hijackers were helped by agents | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
of the Saudi state and funded by some of the same Saudi charities | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
that King Salman had harnessed in Bosnia. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
One thing is immediately apparent - | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
and there's virtually no disagreement about this point - | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
Al-Qaeda was uniquely reliant on funding | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
and support from within the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in the years | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
leading up to 9/11, and the US government has said that repeatedly. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:08 | |
The US government has also said that charities based in Saudi Arabia | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
were primary conduits for providing that funding | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
into Al-Qaeda's hands. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:17 | |
We believe that these charities are components of the government | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
and to the extent that components of a government are involved | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
in providing financing to a terrorist organisation, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
the government is accountable for that activity. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
The 9/11 families have collected a million pages of evidence. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:37 | |
They met fierce resistance from the Saudi government | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
and also President Obama's administration. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
I think that it is generally regarded at the highest levels | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
that a full transparency and complete disclosure | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
of all that evidence would be inconvenient to the US government | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
because it would make it much harder to do business as usual | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
with the Saudis. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:58 | |
The government of Saudi Arabia denies supporting the attacks. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
The 9/11 Commission found no evidence | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
they had directly funded Al-Qaeda. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
But Saudi Arabia says it gave away around 90 billion in two decades | 0:14:13 | 0:14:18 | |
before 9/11 - a large portion paid for thousands of mosques | 0:14:18 | 0:14:23 | |
and a network of clerics around the world... | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
..and it admits some of the money was probably misused. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
9/11 was so painful. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
Our families were shattered, our lives were shattered | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
and we've had to pick up the pieces. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:47 | |
Terry Strada lost her husband Tom in the World Trade Center. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:54 | |
Thanks to a long campaign to change the law, families of 9/11 victims | 0:14:55 | 0:15:00 | |
are now suing the government of Saudi Arabia. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
It was an incredible mountain to climb. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
The Saudis lobbied very heavily against the bill. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
I think that they underestimated that the 9/11 families, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:18 | |
that the widows, that you could come to this country | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
and kill our husbands and take away our children's fathers | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
and that we were going to sit around | 0:15:24 | 0:15:25 | |
and cry about it and not do anything. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
We cried plenty - we cried a flood of tears - | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
but then we stood up and we said, "Why, who and how?" and we got mad | 0:15:31 | 0:15:37 | |
and we said, "We're going to find out all of these answers," | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
and we started the investigation and all roads led to Saudi Arabia | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
and now it's time that they pay for what they did. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
After 9/11, the Saudis came under intense pressure | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
to clean up their act. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:55 | |
But it would take Al-Qaeda attacks on Saudi Arabia itself | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
to make the House of Saud take action. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
They actually had about three or four | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
different sites and wound up at the Oasis Compound - | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
that's where most of the victims were - | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
probably a few dozen people killed there. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
Witnessing the attack was the FBI's man in the country, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
Martin Reardon. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
There was a stand-off, I was on site, there were | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
several hundred Saudi security forces surrounding that compound. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
They wound up breaking out and got away. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
That's OK. Don't come this way. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
More than 20 people were killed - | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
terrorism in the heart of the Saudi kingdom. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
That light finally went on, that it had got out of hand, | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
and they realised they had to do something about it. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
In the face of a threat so close to home, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
the Saudis embarked on the first of several crackdowns, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
targeting terror groups and their funding | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
and sharing intelligence with foreign governments. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
The Saudis pledged to the international community | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
that they will change things - | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
they will clamp down on challenges, they will change their textbooks - | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
but the reforms they did were very, very limited. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
MEN CHANT | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
India has the third largest Muslim population in the world. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
For centuries, Sufism has been the traditional face of Islam here. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
True picture of Islam is Sufism, that's why you can see they come, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
whether they are Muslims, whether they are Hindus, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
they're Christians, they're Jews. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
They come to pay tribute to the grave of the Sufis. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
But this tolerant version of Islam is now under attack in India, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:58 | |
declared unIslamic by a growing number of ultraconservative Muslims, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:03 | |
backed by Saudi Arabia. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
There are some organisations, there are some people | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
who are spreading the terrorism | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
in the name of religion. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:11 | |
-NEWS REPORTS: -Good evening. To our breaking news. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
Gunmen have opened fire, killing at least 80 people... | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
Good evening. For the last five hours or so, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
the most prosperous city in India has been turmoil... | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
Several different locations have been targeted | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
including two five-star hotels... | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
This is what Indians fear. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
Over three days in November 2008, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
more than 160 people were murdered in Mumbai. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
The attackers were members of Lashkar-e-Taiba - | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
the Army of the Pure - a Pakistani terror group. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:54 | |
Four years after Saudi Arabia launched their major crackdown | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
on extremists, the group had still been able to receive funding | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
from inside Saudi Arabia. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
At times, Saudi influence in India | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
has come from the very highest level. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
In 2015, King Salman presented Indian preacher Dr Zakir Naik | 0:20:36 | 0:20:42 | |
one of Saudi Arabia's most prestigious prizes | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
and a cheque for 200,000. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
So I am with those people. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
Zakir Naik is the rock star of the Islamic television world. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:10 | |
He is, without doubt, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:15 | |
the single best-known religious figure in the country... | 0:21:15 | 0:21:20 | |
..with a following that at prime time | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
runs to tens of millions of people. He's huge. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
Dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
discussion, discussion, discussion, debate, debate, debate, | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
rebuttal, rebuttal, rebuttal, conclusion, conclusion, conclusion. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
I'll admit a misconception of the word religion. Get enlightened. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
Zakir Naik broadcasts around the globe | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
on his 24-hour satellite network, Peace TV. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:53 | |
And he also set up schools and a research foundation, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
all to spread his ultraconservative message. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
His singular success has been to displace this hugely rich, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:10 | |
pluralist Islam, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
replace it essentially with this cardboard-cutout Islam, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:17 | |
completely devoid of context, completely devoid of culture. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:22 | |
Zakir Naik's hardline message has even reached into this small | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
and largely Hindu village in north-western India. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
Ugandevi's only son Sandeep was a model student. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:57 | |
She was delighted when he left home to find work, | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
but when she went to stay with him, she was shocked. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
Sandeep's family haven't heard from him for over two years. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
They fear he's gone to join a jihadist group abroad. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
If the person who revolts, who was a Muslim, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
then can worship and become the non-Muslim, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
and propagates the faith | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
and speaks against Islam, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
and if you say Islamic rule, then the person should be put to death. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
Zakir Naik's message has been an inspiration | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
to violent jihadis around the world... | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
..the attackers who killed 20 hostages in a cafe in Bangladesh, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:29 | |
a man who attempted to blow up the New York subway, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
and the Indian engineer who planted a car bomb in central London | 0:24:32 | 0:24:37 | |
before attacking Glasgow airport - | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
all of them had eagerly embraced the message of Zakir Niak. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:45 | |
In case after case after case, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
you will find that attackers obsessively began watching | 0:24:48 | 0:24:53 | |
Zakir Niak's broadcasts at the beginning of their journeys | 0:24:53 | 0:24:59 | |
into the jihadist movement. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:00 | |
Very often watching Zakir Niak was the beginning of a break with | 0:25:00 | 0:25:05 | |
the traditions of Islam that they grew up with. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
Having said that, there's no case in which he was either directly | 0:25:08 | 0:25:13 | |
involved as a plotter or even aware of what they're doing, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
but his message opened the door for them. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
The Indian authorities are now investigating Zakir Niak. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
Satya Pal Singh, now a government minister, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
was the Police Commissioner in Mumbai, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
and he was one of the first to scrutinise | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
the populist preacher. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
Zakir Niak has been banned from entering the UK for fostering hatred | 0:26:02 | 0:26:07 | |
and attempting to justify terrorism. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
The Indian authorities have shut down his foundation in Mumbai | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
under anti-terror law. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:16 | |
Niak has been charged with promoting religious hatred, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
he's suspected of channelling Saudi and other foreign funds | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
to Peace TV and his schools. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
But many of India's Muslims believe the allegations | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
from India's Hindu nationalist establishment are false. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:06 | |
They insist that conservative Islam is neither extreme nor violent. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:11 | |
But he insists they haven't received any Saudi funding for years. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:04 | |
There's mounting evidence that money from Saudi Arabia continued | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
for decades to fund the spread of extremism, | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
yet, somehow, the House of Saud maintained its privileged position | 0:28:42 | 0:28:47 | |
in the global corridors of power. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
The West needs their oil and they are a vital ally | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
in a turbulent region, but there's another reason - | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
the Saudis are fighting their own bitter war against Al-Qaeda | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
and the so-called Islamic State who've sworn to wipe out | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
the House of Saud | 0:29:08 | 0:29:09 | |
and they have more intelligence on the militants than anyone. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
The Saudis are very important partners for the United States | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
and the fight against Islamic State. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
They're one of the main members of the coalition, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
just as they've been partners in the fight against Al-Qaeda. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
The last significant attack by Al-Qaeda | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
directed against the United States, | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
a plot in 2010 to blow up an airliner over Chicago, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
was thwarted by the assistance of Saudi intelligence. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
Prime Minister Theresa May has said that hundreds of British citizens | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
are probably alive because of intelligence | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
provided by the Saudi government. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
But the House of Saud has bigger priorities | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
than helping allies in the West fight terrorism. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
The King of Saudi Arabia is the custodian of the two holy mosques | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
in Mecca and Medina. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
The Kingdom is determined to lead the Muslim world | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
and combat the growing influence of Iran | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
and what THEY see as its heretical Shia branch of Islam. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:21 | |
CHEERING | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
Allahu akbar, Allahu akbar! | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
SHOUTING | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
And there's one conflict that tested the Saudi commitment to | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
cut its ties with violent extremism - | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
the Syrian uprising. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
Saudi Arabia thought it saw an opportunity in 2011 to get | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
rid of Iran's number-one proxy, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
number one ally... | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
CHANTING | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
..the Syrian regime of Bashar Assad. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
The Assads collectively for decades had been the Arab | 0:31:11 | 0:31:16 | |
state most sympathetic to the Iranians. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
2011, the Saudis thought, "We've finally got our chance. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
"Only a little bit of support and the Assads will collapse." | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
RAPID GUNFIRE | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
Allahu akbar. Allahu akbar. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:38 | |
What began as an uprising against an undemocratic, | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
authoritarian regime soon turned into a brutal regional war. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:47 | |
Seven years of fighting have left an estimated 400,000 people dead. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:57 | |
More than 11 million have lost their homes. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
In the West, the focus has often been on the horrific crimes | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
carried out by the Assad regime. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
There has been less attention paid to the role of the West's | 0:32:15 | 0:32:20 | |
ally, Saudi Arabia, in funding and arming Islamist groups. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
-Allahu Akbar! Allahu akbar! -GUNSHOTS | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
Conflict Armament Research is a British organisation which | 0:32:39 | 0:32:44 | |
investigates the international arms trade. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
What we're doing in Iraq and Syria is to document each | 0:32:51 | 0:32:55 | |
individual weapon, trace it back to its manufacturers, to understand | 0:32:55 | 0:33:00 | |
in precise detail how that weapon arrived on the field of battle. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
In areas of Iraq and Syria recently controlled by the so-called | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
Islamic State, they made a surprising discovery. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:15 | |
OK, all right. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
This is Eastern European... | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
The cache included a number of rocket-propelled grenades | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
and anti-tank rockets. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
We will take the weapon apart, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:28 | |
look at serial numbers which identify weapons uniquely, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:33 | |
go back to the manufacturer and ask them, | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
"To whom did you first sell this weapon?" | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
The trail took them 1,000 miles north to Bulgaria | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
and the country's largest arms manufacturer, | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
a company called Arsenal. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
The authorities confirmed the Soviet-designed anti-tank rockets | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
were made here. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:01 | |
Further research revealed who bought them. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
The government of Bulgaria replied to us that this | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
was a transfer which was a legal transfer to Saudi Arabia, | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
to the government of Saudi Arabia, | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
destined for the Armed Forces. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
But the Saudi army uses Western weapons, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
not those from the former Soviet Union. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
The investigators discovered that weapons left the factory | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
and were transported 160 miles to Sofia airport. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
The export licence was to Saudi Arabia | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
but they may never have arrived there at all. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
What we believe has happened is that the weapons were | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
procured by the government of Saudi Arabia | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
and then transferred through to a third party. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
The most likely explanation is that they went through to Jordan | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
and then parties within Jordan transferred them across the border. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
It's not just one shipment. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
Bulgarian government figures show that official arms sales to | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
Saudi Arabia increased massively during the Syrian conflict, | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
up from nearly 3,000 euros in 2012 | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
to more than 100 million euros in 2015. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:20 | |
Across the Balkans, it is thought the Saudis have spent around | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
1 billion euros on weapons that | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
could not be used by their own Armed Forces. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
There is no evidence the government of Saudi Arabia has | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
intentionally armed its sworn enemy, the so-called Islamic State, | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
but there is compelling evidence the government of Saudi Arabia, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:18 | |
its charities and rich Saudis have been secretly funding | 0:36:18 | 0:36:23 | |
and arming a number of violent jihadist groups in Syria. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
One eyewitness agreed to talk for the first time about | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
how Saudi Arabia smuggled huge quantities of cash and weapons. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
RAPID FIRE | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
The Saudi government says the Army of Islam are moderate. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
But these pictures show them parading caged woman | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
and captured soldiers as human shields against air strikes. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
They want to create an Islamic state in Syria, under sharia law. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
In areas they control, Saudi cash has been accompanied by a new | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
and strict Saudi social code. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
By sponsoring these groups, | 0:38:52 | 0:38:53 | |
Saudi Arabia appeases its local constituency because the Wahhabis | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
in Saudi Arabia would be very pleased that Saudi Arabia had | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
gone out of its way, used a lot of its oil wealth in order to | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
promote messages that correspond to those that we hear in Saudi Arabia. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:11 | |
The Saudi government was, and still is, assisting rebel groups in Syria | 0:39:11 | 0:39:17 | |
that you could say are extremist. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
The funding was to take the fight to Assad and | 0:39:20 | 0:39:25 | |
because the Assad government is in line with Iran and that is the... | 0:39:25 | 0:39:30 | |
For Saudi Arabia, that is the number one security threat for them. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:35 | |
As the conflict intensified with the arrival of Iranian-backed | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
militia, Saudis gambled on yet more hardline groups. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:47 | |
One witness revealed how he smuggled Saudi money and arms to | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
a group who have fought at times alongside an affiliate of Al-Qaeda. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
It was a deliberate policy to fund those radical groups | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
so they actually derailed the project for democracy in Syria | 0:41:25 | 0:41:31 | |
and this is in line with Saudi policy that does not want | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
to see any democratic government anywhere in the Arab world. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:39 | |
EXPLOSIONS | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
Allahu Akbar! | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
In 2014, the most violent jihadi group of all burst | 0:41:43 | 0:41:47 | |
onto the world stage - | 0:41:47 | 0:41:48 | |
the so-called Islamic State group proclaimed a worldwide caliphate. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:53 | |
Now all that Saudi cash and arms | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
risked reaching the most extreme jihadists. | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
These are videos... They use them for propaganda, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:06 | |
to receive support, basically saying, we are fighting | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
and using a lot of ammunition, | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
weapons, so we need support. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:13 | |
Ahmet Yayla used to be a chief of counterterrorism in southern Turkey. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:20 | |
He has found evidence that private Saudi cash ended up with | 0:42:20 | 0:42:24 | |
the so-called Islamic State. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
I spent almost 20 years in the field, | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
fighting against terrorism. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:31 | |
I interviewed and interrogated | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
almost over 4,000 terrorists and suspects | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
from different ideologies. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:38 | |
When I speak to ISIS defectors or different terrorist | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
organisations fighting in Syria, they clearly indicate that they | 0:42:46 | 0:42:50 | |
have been receiving support and funds and aid | 0:42:50 | 0:42:55 | |
from Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:59 | |
It is not only the Islamic State, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
but different radical jihadi groups in Syria and Iraq. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:06 | |
The fighters, they know that Saudi supports them very openly | 0:43:14 | 0:43:18 | |
and they like the fact that they are being supported by the Saudis. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:22 | |
Regular fighters underground would tell me that Isis were purchasing | 0:43:26 | 0:43:31 | |
brand-new weapons and the money was coming from Saudi Arabia or Qatar. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:35 | |
The Saudi government has accused the Gulf State of Qatar | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
of a policy of supporting terrorism and extremism. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:45 | |
But while the Saudis have pointed the finger at Qatar, | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
they have denied any Saudi state involvement. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
They received absolutely no support from the government | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
of Saudi Arabia. If they have been receiving support | 0:43:56 | 0:43:58 | |
from individuals in Saudi Arabia then this is against the law and any | 0:43:58 | 0:44:02 | |
such individuals would be subject to the full strength of the law. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:06 | |
We have always declared that we supported the Syrian people | 0:44:06 | 0:44:09 | |
and we provide the Syrian people with the means necessary to | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
protect themselves. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:14 | |
But that does not include any of the terrorist organisations that | 0:44:14 | 0:44:18 | |
have been declared as terrorist by Saudi Arabia | 0:44:18 | 0:44:20 | |
or by the international community. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:22 | |
In 2015, Mohammed bin Salman became Defence Minister. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:27 | |
The Crown Prince has tried to exert tighter control in Syria, | 0:44:27 | 0:44:32 | |
but that has not stopped Saudi-funded weapons ending up | 0:44:32 | 0:44:37 | |
in the hands of more extreme jihadists. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:39 | |
It's important not to underestimate the priority that the Saudis | 0:44:44 | 0:44:48 | |
attach to fighting Iran in general and Iran's number-one proxy - | 0:44:48 | 0:44:53 | |
the Assad regime - in particular. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
And they are willing to take risks, they are willing to take | 0:44:56 | 0:44:59 | |
a risk that money and arms that flow into the groups that are very close | 0:44:59 | 0:45:04 | |
to Al-Qaeda will somehow backfire against them in the long term. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:09 | |
There are very few groups operating in Syria which are not highly | 0:45:14 | 0:45:19 | |
radicalised. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:21 | |
So if you supply weapons into this mix, you have absolutely no | 0:45:21 | 0:45:24 | |
control over where they are going. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:26 | |
In that respect, Saudi Arabia, just like any other provider | 0:45:27 | 0:45:31 | |
of weapons into that conflict, is really stoking the fire. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:35 | |
The US government has praised Saudi Arabia for its efforts to | 0:45:41 | 0:45:44 | |
counter terrorist funding. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
But despite Saudi promises, it appears private Saudi money | 0:45:49 | 0:45:53 | |
has continued to reach extremists all around the world. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:57 | |
In Saudi Arabia you do have still a large part of the population | 0:46:00 | 0:46:05 | |
that does support, to some extent, some of these extremist groups, | 0:46:05 | 0:46:10 | |
and they are donating money. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:11 | |
It is against the law, but it's not hard to move cash. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:15 | |
Ron Sandee worked in Dutch military intelligence for 11 years. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:24 | |
He has continued to investigate Islamist extremists. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:28 | |
I think that many of the donations still come from the same people | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
who funded the jihadis in the 1980s. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:37 | |
I think it's the same people who funded the jihadis in Bosnia, | 0:46:37 | 0:46:41 | |
the same families. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:43 | |
Rich Saudi private donors are still funding, | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
money is still flowing into the pockets of Al-Qaeda. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:50 | |
We have definitely also that they are funding the Taliban | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
and right now we see a resurgent Taliban in Afghanistan. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:57 | |
Saudi Arabia has been tackling extremism. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
When I was the Director of the CIA, when I was | 0:47:02 | 0:47:04 | |
the Commander of Central Command, we had these concerns. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:07 | |
We had them with a number of different countries in that region. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:10 | |
When we went to virtually all of them | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
and said, "Here is one we can actually identify who has actually | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
"moved money," they took action to shut that down. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:20 | |
I think it's important to remember that we're | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
talking about individual private Saudis. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:27 | |
Like any country, not all Saudis are of one stripe. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:31 | |
There are significant numbers of Saudis, | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
including members of the Royal Family, who do | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
believe that the cause is very, very important and who find that fighting | 0:47:37 | 0:47:42 | |
for the liberation of Kashmir or the liberation of Jerusalem is | 0:47:42 | 0:47:47 | |
a cause they really believe in and a cause they want to support. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:51 | |
Members of the Royal Family? | 0:47:51 | 0:47:53 | |
I don't think there's any question that | 0:47:53 | 0:47:55 | |
if you're looking at where the sources of significant amounts | 0:47:55 | 0:47:59 | |
of money are in Saudi Arabia, it's members of the royal family. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:04 | |
In 2017, newly elected President Trump chose to make his first | 0:48:09 | 0:48:13 | |
foreign trip to Saudi Arabia. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:15 | |
He toured their new centre to combat extremist ideology. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:20 | |
I want to express our gratitude to King Salman for his strong | 0:48:21 | 0:48:26 | |
demonstration and his absolutely incredible and powerful leadership. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:33 | |
President Trump urged the House of Saud to make a clean break | 0:48:35 | 0:48:39 | |
with the past. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:40 | |
A better future is only possible if your nations drive out | 0:48:42 | 0:48:46 | |
the terrorists and drive out the extremists. Drive them out. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:53 | |
Drive them out of your Holy Land and drive them out of this Earth. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:59 | |
Months later, the Crown Prince unveiled Saudi Arabia's latest | 0:49:03 | 0:49:07 | |
crackdown with sweeping new counterterrorism laws. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
Funding terrorism is now punishable by death. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:15 | |
Scores of people have been arrested, including some prominent clerics. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
Saudi Arabia is sending the right messages. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
It knows that there was a problem. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:27 | |
It identified the problem as emerging in the 1980s, | 0:49:27 | 0:49:31 | |
producing what we knew which was Al-Qaeda, Osama Bin Laden, | 0:49:31 | 0:49:33 | |
the Afghan mujaheddin, and Prince Salman is trying to say, | 0:49:33 | 0:49:37 | |
"Hey, I know there's a problem, I'm leaving Saudi Arabia | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
"and I'm doing something about it. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
"I'm not just doing counterterrorism work, | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
"I'm changing society and I want the West to come with me on this." | 0:49:44 | 0:49:48 | |
The extremist edges need to be taken off | 0:49:50 | 0:49:53 | |
and I think in the old days it was ignored. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:55 | |
This leadership has taken steps that the previous | 0:49:57 | 0:50:00 | |
leadership for 50 years was afraid of taking. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
King Salman and Crown Prince Mohammad have taken dozens | 0:50:05 | 0:50:09 | |
and dozens of measures to crack down on terrorists or terrorist | 0:50:09 | 0:50:13 | |
cells or terrorist financing. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:15 | |
They have dismissed thousands of Imams | 0:50:15 | 0:50:18 | |
and teachers who espouse extremist views. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
These are very, very important measures. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:23 | |
But some say the Crown Prince is also using the new | 0:50:25 | 0:50:27 | |
anti-terror laws to silence his opponents. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:30 | |
It is not clear how this project of ending extremism is going to work. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:37 | |
We have seen historically that when governments repressed | 0:50:37 | 0:50:40 | |
Islamist or Islamic groups, they have gone violent, | 0:50:40 | 0:50:44 | |
so his repressive measures now may lead to be counter-productive. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:48 | |
They may actually lead to more extremism. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
A lot of what Saudi officials - particularly the Crown Prince - | 0:50:52 | 0:50:57 | |
say about "moderate Islam" is intended more for a Western | 0:50:57 | 0:51:01 | |
audience than it is for an internal audience. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
Saudi Arabia is trying to curb the excesses of extremism within | 0:51:04 | 0:51:10 | |
the Wahhabist movement but they are not going to divorce | 0:51:10 | 0:51:14 | |
themselves from the kind of ideology which is at the basis | 0:51:14 | 0:51:20 | |
of their legitimacy as rulers of the Arabian Peninsula. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:24 | |
The Crown Prince has raised hopes that he can be a new | 0:51:26 | 0:51:29 | |
force for moderation and security. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:32 | |
But much depends on the man himself | 0:51:33 | 0:51:35 | |
and whether he can rein in growing and destructive sectarian forces. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:40 | |
The brutal war in Yemen has been | 0:52:19 | 0:52:21 | |
personally directed by the Crown Prince. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:24 | |
His aggressive tactics have led to allegations of targeting civilians. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:30 | |
Shira Mohammed and family were holding a funeral for his brother, | 0:52:32 | 0:52:36 | |
killed in recent fighting. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:38 | |
Seven women and one young girl were killed. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:32 | |
Ten others were badly injured. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
The missile that killed them is thought to have been | 0:53:36 | 0:53:38 | |
fired by a fighter jet from the Saudi-led coalition. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:42 | |
Their military campaign in Yemen is backed by Britain and America. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:49 | |
ROAR OF JET | 0:54:32 | 0:54:34 | |
EXPLOSION | 0:54:34 | 0:54:35 | |
According to the UN, at least 10,000 people have been killed. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:39 | |
The Saudis say they are supporting the elected government of Yemen, | 0:54:41 | 0:54:44 | |
and defending themselves against rebel attacks on Saudi Arabia. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:48 | |
Sunni Saudi Arabia claims the mainly Shia | 0:54:49 | 0:54:52 | |
rebels in Yemen are backed by an expansionist and aggressive Iran. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:57 | |
But the Saudi-led blockade has put millions of Yemenis at risk | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
of starvation and cholera. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:06 | |
It was a necessary water to enter into. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:10 | |
Now, it may have been executed in a flawed way at certain times, | 0:55:10 | 0:55:14 | |
the messaging about it might not have been good, | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
but it is a necessary war to defend the security of Saudi Arabia - | 0:55:17 | 0:55:20 | |
people don't appreciate that. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:22 | |
Crown Prince Salman's promise to crack down on | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
extremism has been welcomed in the West, | 0:55:54 | 0:55:57 | |
but some fear his aggressive foreign policy has opened | 0:55:57 | 0:56:00 | |
a new chapter of instability in the Middle East. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:04 | |
There is no doubt that what we have seen in Saudi Arabia is | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
pretty unprecedented. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:12 | |
It is aggressive, it is assertive | 0:56:14 | 0:56:17 | |
and it is getting itself stuck into some real conundrums in the region. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:21 | |
All of a sudden we don't quite know where this goes. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:26 | |
SHOUTING | 0:56:29 | 0:56:31 | |
SIRENS | 0:56:31 | 0:56:33 | |
Saudi Arabia is engaged now in the most intense sectarian | 0:56:37 | 0:56:41 | |
proxy conflict that we have seen in modern Middle East history. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:45 | |
Neither Saudi Arabia nor Iran any more is | 0:56:48 | 0:56:50 | |
able to keep from just stoking, stoking and stoking. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:53 | |
It is burning from Syria and Lebanon to Iraq, to Yemen | 0:56:54 | 0:56:59 | |
to inside the Kingdom, to Bahrain | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
to Kuwait and places like that. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
Thousands if not tens of thousands of people are at risk | 0:57:04 | 0:57:08 | |
at a sectarian conflict that has burned out of control. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
I think the danger is that the Arab world in the last five | 0:57:14 | 0:57:19 | |
years has begun walking into an abyss of hell. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:22 | |
MONITORS BEEP | 0:57:26 | 0:57:29 | |
A five-star hotel turned into a prison for princes and billionaires. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:59 | |
This was dramatic. It was almost like a theatrical performance. | 0:57:59 | 0:58:03 | |
It opened the door on a secret world of huge kickbacks | 0:58:03 | 0:58:07 | |
and bribes. | 0:58:07 | 0:58:09 | |
Saudi Arabia is probably the most corrupt country on the planet | 0:58:09 | 0:58:14 | |
and that corruption goes to the very top of the Saudi Royal Family. | 0:58:14 | 0:58:19 |