Episode 1 House of Saud: A Family at War


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This programme contains some scenes which some viewers may find upsetting.

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This is a family like no other.

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The House of Saud has untold wealth and power.

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Thousands of royal princes live lavish lifestyles

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and they have unique access to the world's rulers...

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..but their kingdom was born out of conflict.

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Saudi Arabia, when it was created, it was a jihadi project.

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For decades, there have been allegations

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of financial support for terror.

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We started the investigation and all roads led to Saudi Arabia

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and now it's time that they pay for what they did.

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Now, evidence is emerging

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of Saudi money reaching the most brutal extremists.

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The fighters,

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they like the fact that they are being supported by the Saudis.

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The House of Saud has often promised change, but have they done enough?

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Saudi Arabia has spent billions of dollars

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supporting what it calls and regards as freedom fighters.

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Now, a new Crown Prince is promising a return

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to a so-called moderate Islam.

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Having the Crown Prince come up and say it in Arabic boldly in public

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sent a very, very strong message.

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But in the face of brutal regional conflict,

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what is the future for Saudi Arabia and the world?

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Osve, a tiny hamlet in the mountains of Eastern Europe -

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an unlikely place to find the black flag of jihad.

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But men from this Bosnian village have travelled

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and fought for the so-called Islamic State in Syria.

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It's the latest chapter in the history of radicalisation

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in the heart of Europe.

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CALL TO PRAYER

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50 miles away in the Bosnian capital Sarajevo

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stands the 450-year-old al-Pasha Mosque.

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We are one of the oldest mosques in Bosnia-Herzegovina.

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We teach and preach here Islam that is open,

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that Islam is human, that Islam is altruistic

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and this Islam we have preserved here for five centuries.

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Just across the city is a very different mosque.

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Paid for by Saudi Arabia,

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the King Fahd Mosque is the largest in Bosnia.

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They built this very large mosque.

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The Saudis' view is they were supporting the spread of Islam.

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Since the 1990s, Saudi charities have poured money into Bosnia.

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It's claimed they helped build 120 new mosques.

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I mean, it was complete change in the way

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Islam was being followed in the country.

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A leaked intelligence briefing from the US Embassy in Sarajevo

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warned that there were radical extremists

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focused on the new mosques and schools.

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They are employers of ideology,

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they try to harm people, which are poor...

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..which are socially vulnerable, which are unemployed, who are, er...

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..who are illiterate, uneducated.

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They didn't have any chance to educate.

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The arrival of this violent sectarian ideology

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dates from the 1990s and the bitter war that raged for four years

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between Bosnian Muslims and the largely orthodox Christian Serbs

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and Catholic Croats.

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The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia backed the Muslim cause.

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Saudi charities supplied humanitarian aid.

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Foreign jihadists also answered the call.

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The Kingdom has always denied arming them, but what is the truth?

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This was the mujaheddin's headquarters in the city

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of Zenica during the war.

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On the wall, an Arabic slogan reads,

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"Whenever it is, death is a blessing."

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The secret Nato report from the time claims the Saudi government

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and some Saudi charities funded foreign fighters

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and even bought weapons for them.

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Saudi Arabia knew exactly what the various charities were up to.

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Money was sent to a charity for good purposes

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and then some of it was creamed off

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for supporting mujaheddin or whoever.

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The report named one charity, Al Waqf Al Islami,

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that was supposedly providing Islamic education.

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In fact, it was also funding and recruiting foreign fighters.

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Saudi Arabia has spent billions of dollars supporting what it calls

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and regards as freedom fighters - first in Afghanistan,

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then in Bosnia,

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and of course in Palestine and elsewhere.

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Bruce Riedel worked at the CIA for 30 years

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and advised four American presidents on the Middle East.

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And if you look at the funding of Saudi support for groups like

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the Afghan mujaheddin or the Bosnians,

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one figure turns up over and over again...

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..His Royal Highness King Salman.

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He's the one who had the responsibility to pass the hat,

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if you like, among the royals

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and collect the money which went to these groups.

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King Salman is at the heart of this whole enterprise of supporting

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what Saudis believe to be holy causes,

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fighting for the defence of Muslim lands.

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For decades, King Salman was the House of Saud's fundraiser-in-chief

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for those holy causes, but now his own son,

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the new power behind the throne, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman,

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has promised to put an end to Saudi extremism.

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It is a bold and remarkable pledge.

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Saudi Arabia, when it was created, it was a jihadi project.

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The al-Saud mobilised the tribal groups,

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they armed them and they sent them on a jihadi rampage

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around the Arabian Peninsula at the time and that resulted

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in the creation of Saudi Arabia.

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The modern state of Saudi Arabia owes its existence

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to an ancient alliance between the House of Saud

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and the supporters of an ultraconservative brand of Islam.

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It's often called Wahabism and it preaches a return to the values

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of seventh-century Arabia and the time of the Prophet Muhammad.

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The religious establishment pledges its allegiance to the King

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and in return he pledges to defend

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and spread Wahabi radical Islam around the world.

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The peculiar variant of Islam that Saudi Arabia supports -

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Wahabism, as we call it - is kind of the petri dish

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in which much more extreme versions of Islam will flourish.

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Al-Qaeda finds its spiritual

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and theocratic routes in Wahabism.

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CHANTING

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Islamic State, the same thing.

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One needs to be careful and not accuse the Kingdom of being

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the patron state sponsor of groups like Al-Qaeda and Islamic State,

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that's not the case...

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..but it is very much a state with an ideology

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that is very intolerant of outsiders

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and very, very, very much inclined towards sectarianism within Islam,

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and a violent form of sectarianism.

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The Crown Prince made his bold commitment

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to destroy extremist ideology last October.

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The Crown Prince says 30 years was wasted

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dealing with extremist ideas.

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You're not going to turn the Saudi religious establishment

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into California liberals,

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but what you want to do is you want to use their prestige

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and their stature to fight terrorism

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and to fight extremist language.

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That is a gradual process, but having the Crown Prince come up

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and say it in Arabic boldly in public

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sent a very, very strong message that the leadership

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is determined to not allow this language

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and this thinking to spread or to be nurtured by anybody in the country.

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It's certainly an acknowledgement

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that the ultraconservative form of religion that's practised there

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has indeed been a bit more accommodating - shall we say? -

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to extremism than the more moderate form

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that he would like to have Saudi return to,

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in his words.

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I think the real issue is, will this be a transition or really begin

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a revolution that results in a more moderate form of Islam

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that is practised in the Kingdom

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and then also, frankly, that is promoted elsewhere?

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-NEWS REPORT:

-The World Trade Center, Tower Number One, is on fire.

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The whole outside of the building...

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Oh, my God!

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Almost 3,000 people were killed in the 9/11 attacks.

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EMERGENCY SERVICES MESSAGE

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Stay back!

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15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis...

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Stay clear. Await the collapse of one of the towers.

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..and the trail led straight back to Bosnia

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and the allegations of Saudi funding of extremism.

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Sean Carter is a lead lawyer in an historic legal case

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against the government of Saudi Arabia.

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He's spent more than a decade weighing the evidence.

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The 9/11 families bringing the case believe Saudi involvement

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goes much further than radicalisation.

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They allege the Al-Qaeda hijackers were helped by agents

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of the Saudi state and funded by some of the same Saudi charities

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that King Salman had harnessed in Bosnia.

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One thing is immediately apparent -

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and there's virtually no disagreement about this point -

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Al-Qaeda was uniquely reliant on funding

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and support from within the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in the years

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leading up to 9/11, and the US government has said that repeatedly.

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The US government has also said that charities based in Saudi Arabia

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were primary conduits for providing that funding

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into Al-Qaeda's hands.

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We believe that these charities are components of the government

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and to the extent that components of a government are involved

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in providing financing to a terrorist organisation,

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the government is accountable for that activity.

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The 9/11 families have collected a million pages of evidence.

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They met fierce resistance from the Saudi government

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and also President Obama's administration.

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I think that it is generally regarded at the highest levels

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that a full transparency and complete disclosure

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of all that evidence would be inconvenient to the US government

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because it would make it much harder to do business as usual

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with the Saudis.

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The government of Saudi Arabia denies supporting the attacks.

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The 9/11 Commission found no evidence

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they had directly funded Al-Qaeda.

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But Saudi Arabia says it gave away around 90 billion in two decades

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before 9/11 - a large portion paid for thousands of mosques

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and a network of clerics around the world...

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..and it admits some of the money was probably misused.

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9/11 was so painful.

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Our families were shattered, our lives were shattered

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and we've had to pick up the pieces.

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Terry Strada lost her husband Tom in the World Trade Center.

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Thanks to a long campaign to change the law, families of 9/11 victims

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are now suing the government of Saudi Arabia.

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It was an incredible mountain to climb.

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The Saudis lobbied very heavily against the bill.

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I think that they underestimated that the 9/11 families,

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that the widows, that you could come to this country

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and kill our husbands and take away our children's fathers

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and that we were going to sit around

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and cry about it and not do anything.

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We cried plenty - we cried a flood of tears -

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but then we stood up and we said, "Why, who and how?" and we got mad

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and we said, "We're going to find out all of these answers,"

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and we started the investigation and all roads led to Saudi Arabia

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and now it's time that they pay for what they did.

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After 9/11, the Saudis came under intense pressure

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to clean up their act.

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But it would take Al-Qaeda attacks on Saudi Arabia itself

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to make the House of Saud take action.

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They actually had about three or four

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different sites and wound up at the Oasis Compound -

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that's where most of the victims were -

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probably a few dozen people killed there.

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Witnessing the attack was the FBI's man in the country,

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Martin Reardon.

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There was a stand-off, I was on site, there were

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several hundred Saudi security forces surrounding that compound.

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They wound up breaking out and got away.

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That's OK. Don't come this way.

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More than 20 people were killed -

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terrorism in the heart of the Saudi kingdom.

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That light finally went on, that it had got out of hand,

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and they realised they had to do something about it.

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In the face of a threat so close to home,

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the Saudis embarked on the first of several crackdowns,

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targeting terror groups and their funding

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and sharing intelligence with foreign governments.

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The Saudis pledged to the international community

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that they will change things -

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they will clamp down on challenges, they will change their textbooks -

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but the reforms they did were very, very limited.

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MEN CHANT

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India has the third largest Muslim population in the world.

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For centuries, Sufism has been the traditional face of Islam here.

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True picture of Islam is Sufism, that's why you can see they come,

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whether they are Muslims, whether they are Hindus,

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they're Christians, they're Jews.

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They come to pay tribute to the grave of the Sufis.

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But this tolerant version of Islam is now under attack in India,

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declared unIslamic by a growing number of ultraconservative Muslims,

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backed by Saudi Arabia.

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There are some organisations, there are some people

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who are spreading the terrorism

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in the name of religion.

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-NEWS REPORTS:

-Good evening. To our breaking news.

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Gunmen have opened fire, killing at least 80 people...

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Good evening. For the last five hours or so,

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the most prosperous city in India has been turmoil...

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Several different locations have been targeted

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including two five-star hotels...

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This is what Indians fear.

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Over three days in November 2008,

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more than 160 people were murdered in Mumbai.

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The attackers were members of Lashkar-e-Taiba -

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the Army of the Pure - a Pakistani terror group.

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Four years after Saudi Arabia launched their major crackdown

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on extremists, the group had still been able to receive funding

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from inside Saudi Arabia.

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At times, Saudi influence in India

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has come from the very highest level.

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In 2015, King Salman presented Indian preacher Dr Zakir Naik

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one of Saudi Arabia's most prestigious prizes

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and a cheque for 200,000.

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So I am with those people.

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Zakir Naik is the rock star of the Islamic television world.

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He is, without doubt,

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the single best-known religious figure in the country...

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..with a following that at prime time

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runs to tens of millions of people. He's huge.

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Dialogue, dialogue, dialogue,

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discussion, discussion, discussion, debate, debate, debate,

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rebuttal, rebuttal, rebuttal, conclusion, conclusion, conclusion.

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I'll admit a misconception of the word religion. Get enlightened.

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Zakir Naik broadcasts around the globe

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on his 24-hour satellite network, Peace TV.

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And he also set up schools and a research foundation,

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all to spread his ultraconservative message.

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His singular success has been to displace this hugely rich,

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pluralist Islam,

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replace it essentially with this cardboard-cutout Islam,

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completely devoid of context, completely devoid of culture.

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Zakir Naik's hardline message has even reached into this small

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and largely Hindu village in north-western India.

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Ugandevi's only son Sandeep was a model student.

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She was delighted when he left home to find work,

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but when she went to stay with him, she was shocked.

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Sandeep's family haven't heard from him for over two years.

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They fear he's gone to join a jihadist group abroad.

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If the person who revolts, who was a Muslim,

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then can worship and become the non-Muslim,

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and propagates the faith

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and speaks against Islam,

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and if you say Islamic rule, then the person should be put to death.

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Zakir Naik's message has been an inspiration

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to violent jihadis around the world...

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..the attackers who killed 20 hostages in a cafe in Bangladesh,

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a man who attempted to blow up the New York subway,

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and the Indian engineer who planted a car bomb in central London

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before attacking Glasgow airport -

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all of them had eagerly embraced the message of Zakir Niak.

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In case after case after case,

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you will find that attackers obsessively began watching

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Zakir Niak's broadcasts at the beginning of their journeys

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into the jihadist movement.

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Very often watching Zakir Niak was the beginning of a break with

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the traditions of Islam that they grew up with.

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Having said that, there's no case in which he was either directly

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involved as a plotter or even aware of what they're doing,

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but his message opened the door for them.

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The Indian authorities are now investigating Zakir Niak.

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Satya Pal Singh, now a government minister,

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was the Police Commissioner in Mumbai,

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and he was one of the first to scrutinise

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the populist preacher.

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Zakir Niak has been banned from entering the UK for fostering hatred

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and attempting to justify terrorism.

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The Indian authorities have shut down his foundation in Mumbai

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under anti-terror law.

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Niak has been charged with promoting religious hatred,

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he's suspected of channelling Saudi and other foreign funds

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to Peace TV and his schools.

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But many of India's Muslims believe the allegations

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from India's Hindu nationalist establishment are false.

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They insist that conservative Islam is neither extreme nor violent.

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But he insists they haven't received any Saudi funding for years.

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There's mounting evidence that money from Saudi Arabia continued

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for decades to fund the spread of extremism,

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yet, somehow, the House of Saud maintained its privileged position

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in the global corridors of power.

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The West needs their oil and they are a vital ally

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in a turbulent region, but there's another reason -

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the Saudis are fighting their own bitter war against Al-Qaeda

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and the so-called Islamic State who've sworn to wipe out

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the House of Saud

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and they have more intelligence on the militants than anyone.

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The Saudis are very important partners for the United States

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and the fight against Islamic State.

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They're one of the main members of the coalition,

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just as they've been partners in the fight against Al-Qaeda.

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The last significant attack by Al-Qaeda

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directed against the United States,

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a plot in 2010 to blow up an airliner over Chicago,

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was thwarted by the assistance of Saudi intelligence.

0:29:350:29:39

Prime Minister Theresa May has said that hundreds of British citizens

0:29:410:29:45

are probably alive because of intelligence

0:29:450:29:48

provided by the Saudi government.

0:29:480:29:50

But the House of Saud has bigger priorities

0:29:520:29:55

than helping allies in the West fight terrorism.

0:29:550:29:58

The King of Saudi Arabia is the custodian of the two holy mosques

0:30:010:30:05

in Mecca and Medina.

0:30:050:30:07

The Kingdom is determined to lead the Muslim world

0:30:090:30:13

and combat the growing influence of Iran

0:30:130:30:16

and what THEY see as its heretical Shia branch of Islam.

0:30:160:30:21

CHEERING

0:30:210:30:24

Allahu akbar, Allahu akbar!

0:30:240:30:28

SHOUTING

0:30:280:30:32

And there's one conflict that tested the Saudi commitment to

0:30:340:30:38

cut its ties with violent extremism -

0:30:380:30:41

the Syrian uprising.

0:30:410:30:43

Saudi Arabia thought it saw an opportunity in 2011 to get

0:30:450:30:49

rid of Iran's number-one proxy,

0:30:490:30:53

number one ally...

0:30:530:30:56

CHANTING

0:30:560:31:00

..the Syrian regime of Bashar Assad.

0:31:070:31:10

The Assads collectively for decades had been the Arab

0:31:110:31:16

state most sympathetic to the Iranians.

0:31:160:31:20

2011, the Saudis thought, "We've finally got our chance.

0:31:240:31:28

"Only a little bit of support and the Assads will collapse."

0:31:290:31:33

RAPID GUNFIRE

0:31:350:31:37

Allahu akbar. Allahu akbar.

0:31:370:31:38

What began as an uprising against an undemocratic,

0:31:380:31:42

authoritarian regime soon turned into a brutal regional war.

0:31:420:31:47

Seven years of fighting have left an estimated 400,000 people dead.

0:31:510:31:57

More than 11 million have lost their homes.

0:31:570:32:00

In the West, the focus has often been on the horrific crimes

0:32:060:32:10

carried out by the Assad regime.

0:32:100:32:12

There has been less attention paid to the role of the West's

0:32:150:32:20

ally, Saudi Arabia, in funding and arming Islamist groups.

0:32:200:32:24

-Allahu Akbar! Allahu akbar!

-GUNSHOTS

0:32:260:32:29

Conflict Armament Research is a British organisation which

0:32:390:32:44

investigates the international arms trade.

0:32:440:32:46

What we're doing in Iraq and Syria is to document each

0:32:510:32:55

individual weapon, trace it back to its manufacturers, to understand

0:32:550:33:00

in precise detail how that weapon arrived on the field of battle.

0:33:000:33:04

In areas of Iraq and Syria recently controlled by the so-called

0:33:060:33:10

Islamic State, they made a surprising discovery.

0:33:100:33:15

OK, all right.

0:33:150:33:18

This is Eastern European...

0:33:180:33:20

The cache included a number of rocket-propelled grenades

0:33:200:33:24

and anti-tank rockets.

0:33:240:33:26

We will take the weapon apart,

0:33:270:33:28

look at serial numbers which identify weapons uniquely,

0:33:280:33:33

go back to the manufacturer and ask them,

0:33:330:33:35

"To whom did you first sell this weapon?"

0:33:350:33:37

The trail took them 1,000 miles north to Bulgaria

0:33:450:33:49

and the country's largest arms manufacturer,

0:33:490:33:52

a company called Arsenal.

0:33:520:33:54

The authorities confirmed the Soviet-designed anti-tank rockets

0:33:560:34:00

were made here.

0:34:000:34:01

Further research revealed who bought them.

0:34:040:34:06

The government of Bulgaria replied to us that this

0:34:090:34:11

was a transfer which was a legal transfer to Saudi Arabia,

0:34:110:34:15

to the government of Saudi Arabia,

0:34:150:34:18

destined for the Armed Forces.

0:34:180:34:21

But the Saudi army uses Western weapons,

0:34:220:34:25

not those from the former Soviet Union.

0:34:250:34:28

The investigators discovered that weapons left the factory

0:34:280:34:32

and were transported 160 miles to Sofia airport.

0:34:320:34:36

The export licence was to Saudi Arabia

0:34:360:34:39

but they may never have arrived there at all.

0:34:390:34:42

What we believe has happened is that the weapons were

0:34:430:34:46

procured by the government of Saudi Arabia

0:34:460:34:48

and then transferred through to a third party.

0:34:480:34:52

The most likely explanation is that they went through to Jordan

0:34:520:34:55

and then parties within Jordan transferred them across the border.

0:34:550:34:59

It's not just one shipment.

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Bulgarian government figures show that official arms sales to

0:35:030:35:07

Saudi Arabia increased massively during the Syrian conflict,

0:35:070:35:11

up from nearly 3,000 euros in 2012

0:35:110:35:15

to more than 100 million euros in 2015.

0:35:150:35:20

Across the Balkans, it is thought the Saudis have spent around

0:35:220:35:26

1 billion euros on weapons that

0:35:260:35:28

could not be used by their own Armed Forces.

0:35:280:35:31

There is no evidence the government of Saudi Arabia has

0:36:050:36:09

intentionally armed its sworn enemy, the so-called Islamic State,

0:36:090:36:13

but there is compelling evidence the government of Saudi Arabia,

0:36:130:36:18

its charities and rich Saudis have been secretly funding

0:36:180:36:23

and arming a number of violent jihadist groups in Syria.

0:36:230:36:26

One eyewitness agreed to talk for the first time about

0:36:300:36:34

how Saudi Arabia smuggled huge quantities of cash and weapons.

0:36:340:36:38

RAPID FIRE

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The Saudi government says the Army of Islam are moderate.

0:38:020:38:05

But these pictures show them parading caged woman

0:38:060:38:09

and captured soldiers as human shields against air strikes.

0:38:090:38:13

They want to create an Islamic state in Syria, under sharia law.

0:38:150:38:19

In areas they control, Saudi cash has been accompanied by a new

0:38:230:38:27

and strict Saudi social code.

0:38:270:38:30

By sponsoring these groups,

0:38:520:38:53

Saudi Arabia appeases its local constituency because the Wahhabis

0:38:530:38:57

in Saudi Arabia would be very pleased that Saudi Arabia had

0:38:570:39:01

gone out of its way, used a lot of its oil wealth in order to

0:39:010:39:05

promote messages that correspond to those that we hear in Saudi Arabia.

0:39:050:39:11

The Saudi government was, and still is, assisting rebel groups in Syria

0:39:110:39:17

that you could say are extremist.

0:39:170:39:20

The funding was to take the fight to Assad and

0:39:200:39:25

because the Assad government is in line with Iran and that is the...

0:39:250:39:30

For Saudi Arabia, that is the number one security threat for them.

0:39:300:39:35

As the conflict intensified with the arrival of Iranian-backed

0:39:380:39:42

militia, Saudis gambled on yet more hardline groups.

0:39:420:39:47

One witness revealed how he smuggled Saudi money and arms to

0:39:490:39:53

a group who have fought at times alongside an affiliate of Al-Qaeda.

0:39:530:39:57

It was a deliberate policy to fund those radical groups

0:41:210:41:25

so they actually derailed the project for democracy in Syria

0:41:250:41:31

and this is in line with Saudi policy that does not want

0:41:310:41:34

to see any democratic government anywhere in the Arab world.

0:41:340:41:39

EXPLOSIONS

0:41:390:41:41

Allahu Akbar!

0:41:410:41:43

In 2014, the most violent jihadi group of all burst

0:41:430:41:47

onto the world stage -

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the so-called Islamic State group proclaimed a worldwide caliphate.

0:41:480:41:53

Now all that Saudi cash and arms

0:41:540:41:56

risked reaching the most extreme jihadists.

0:41:560:42:00

These are videos... They use them for propaganda,

0:42:010:42:06

to receive support, basically saying, we are fighting

0:42:060:42:10

and using a lot of ammunition,

0:42:100:42:12

weapons, so we need support.

0:42:120:42:13

Ahmet Yayla used to be a chief of counterterrorism in southern Turkey.

0:42:150:42:20

He has found evidence that private Saudi cash ended up with

0:42:200:42:24

the so-called Islamic State.

0:42:240:42:26

I spent almost 20 years in the field,

0:42:270:42:30

fighting against terrorism.

0:42:300:42:31

I interviewed and interrogated

0:42:310:42:34

almost over 4,000 terrorists and suspects

0:42:340:42:37

from different ideologies.

0:42:370:42:38

When I speak to ISIS defectors or different terrorist

0:42:420:42:46

organisations fighting in Syria, they clearly indicate that they

0:42:460:42:50

have been receiving support and funds and aid

0:42:500:42:55

from Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey.

0:42:550:42:59

It is not only the Islamic State,

0:42:590:43:01

but different radical jihadi groups in Syria and Iraq.

0:43:010:43:06

The fighters, they know that Saudi supports them very openly

0:43:140:43:18

and they like the fact that they are being supported by the Saudis.

0:43:180:43:22

Regular fighters underground would tell me that Isis were purchasing

0:43:260:43:31

brand-new weapons and the money was coming from Saudi Arabia or Qatar.

0:43:310:43:35

The Saudi government has accused the Gulf State of Qatar

0:43:370:43:41

of a policy of supporting terrorism and extremism.

0:43:410:43:45

But while the Saudis have pointed the finger at Qatar,

0:43:450:43:48

they have denied any Saudi state involvement.

0:43:480:43:51

They received absolutely no support from the government

0:43:530:43:56

of Saudi Arabia. If they have been receiving support

0:43:560:43:58

from individuals in Saudi Arabia then this is against the law and any

0:43:580:44:02

such individuals would be subject to the full strength of the law.

0:44:020:44:06

We have always declared that we supported the Syrian people

0:44:060:44:09

and we provide the Syrian people with the means necessary to

0:44:090:44:12

protect themselves.

0:44:120:44:14

But that does not include any of the terrorist organisations that

0:44:140:44:18

have been declared as terrorist by Saudi Arabia

0:44:180:44:20

or by the international community.

0:44:200:44:22

In 2015, Mohammed bin Salman became Defence Minister.

0:44:220:44:27

The Crown Prince has tried to exert tighter control in Syria,

0:44:270:44:32

but that has not stopped Saudi-funded weapons ending up

0:44:320:44:37

in the hands of more extreme jihadists.

0:44:370:44:39

It's important not to underestimate the priority that the Saudis

0:44:440:44:48

attach to fighting Iran in general and Iran's number-one proxy -

0:44:480:44:53

the Assad regime - in particular.

0:44:530:44:56

And they are willing to take risks, they are willing to take

0:44:560:44:59

a risk that money and arms that flow into the groups that are very close

0:44:590:45:04

to Al-Qaeda will somehow backfire against them in the long term.

0:45:040:45:09

There are very few groups operating in Syria which are not highly

0:45:140:45:19

radicalised.

0:45:190:45:21

So if you supply weapons into this mix, you have absolutely no

0:45:210:45:24

control over where they are going.

0:45:240:45:26

In that respect, Saudi Arabia, just like any other provider

0:45:270:45:31

of weapons into that conflict, is really stoking the fire.

0:45:310:45:35

The US government has praised Saudi Arabia for its efforts to

0:45:410:45:44

counter terrorist funding.

0:45:440:45:46

But despite Saudi promises, it appears private Saudi money

0:45:490:45:53

has continued to reach extremists all around the world.

0:45:530:45:57

In Saudi Arabia you do have still a large part of the population

0:46:000:46:05

that does support, to some extent, some of these extremist groups,

0:46:050:46:10

and they are donating money.

0:46:100:46:11

It is against the law, but it's not hard to move cash.

0:46:110:46:15

Ron Sandee worked in Dutch military intelligence for 11 years.

0:46:190:46:24

He has continued to investigate Islamist extremists.

0:46:240:46:28

I think that many of the donations still come from the same people

0:46:310:46:34

who funded the jihadis in the 1980s.

0:46:340:46:37

I think it's the same people who funded the jihadis in Bosnia,

0:46:370:46:41

the same families.

0:46:410:46:43

Rich Saudi private donors are still funding,

0:46:430:46:46

money is still flowing into the pockets of Al-Qaeda.

0:46:460:46:50

We have definitely also that they are funding the Taliban

0:46:500:46:53

and right now we see a resurgent Taliban in Afghanistan.

0:46:530:46:57

Saudi Arabia has been tackling extremism.

0:47:000:47:02

When I was the Director of the CIA, when I was

0:47:020:47:04

the Commander of Central Command, we had these concerns.

0:47:040:47:07

We had them with a number of different countries in that region.

0:47:070:47:10

When we went to virtually all of them

0:47:100:47:13

and said, "Here is one we can actually identify who has actually

0:47:130:47:16

"moved money," they took action to shut that down.

0:47:160:47:20

I think it's important to remember that we're

0:47:210:47:23

talking about individual private Saudis.

0:47:230:47:27

Like any country, not all Saudis are of one stripe.

0:47:270:47:31

There are significant numbers of Saudis,

0:47:310:47:34

including members of the Royal Family, who do

0:47:340:47:37

believe that the cause is very, very important and who find that fighting

0:47:370:47:42

for the liberation of Kashmir or the liberation of Jerusalem is

0:47:420:47:47

a cause they really believe in and a cause they want to support.

0:47:470:47:51

Members of the Royal Family?

0:47:510:47:53

I don't think there's any question that

0:47:530:47:55

if you're looking at where the sources of significant amounts

0:47:550:47:59

of money are in Saudi Arabia, it's members of the royal family.

0:47:590:48:04

In 2017, newly elected President Trump chose to make his first

0:48:090:48:13

foreign trip to Saudi Arabia.

0:48:130:48:15

He toured their new centre to combat extremist ideology.

0:48:160:48:20

I want to express our gratitude to King Salman for his strong

0:48:210:48:26

demonstration and his absolutely incredible and powerful leadership.

0:48:260:48:33

President Trump urged the House of Saud to make a clean break

0:48:350:48:39

with the past.

0:48:390:48:40

A better future is only possible if your nations drive out

0:48:420:48:46

the terrorists and drive out the extremists. Drive them out.

0:48:460:48:53

Drive them out of your Holy Land and drive them out of this Earth.

0:48:530:48:59

Months later, the Crown Prince unveiled Saudi Arabia's latest

0:49:030:49:07

crackdown with sweeping new counterterrorism laws.

0:49:070:49:10

Funding terrorism is now punishable by death.

0:49:110:49:15

Scores of people have been arrested, including some prominent clerics.

0:49:150:49:19

Saudi Arabia is sending the right messages.

0:49:220:49:25

It knows that there was a problem.

0:49:250:49:27

It identified the problem as emerging in the 1980s,

0:49:270:49:31

producing what we knew which was Al-Qaeda, Osama Bin Laden,

0:49:310:49:33

the Afghan mujaheddin, and Prince Salman is trying to say,

0:49:330:49:37

"Hey, I know there's a problem, I'm leaving Saudi Arabia

0:49:370:49:40

"and I'm doing something about it.

0:49:400:49:42

"I'm not just doing counterterrorism work,

0:49:420:49:44

"I'm changing society and I want the West to come with me on this."

0:49:440:49:48

The extremist edges need to be taken off

0:49:500:49:53

and I think in the old days it was ignored.

0:49:530:49:55

This leadership has taken steps that the previous

0:49:570:50:00

leadership for 50 years was afraid of taking.

0:50:000:50:02

King Salman and Crown Prince Mohammad have taken dozens

0:50:050:50:09

and dozens of measures to crack down on terrorists or terrorist

0:50:090:50:13

cells or terrorist financing.

0:50:130:50:15

They have dismissed thousands of Imams

0:50:150:50:18

and teachers who espouse extremist views.

0:50:180:50:21

These are very, very important measures.

0:50:210:50:23

But some say the Crown Prince is also using the new

0:50:250:50:27

anti-terror laws to silence his opponents.

0:50:270:50:30

It is not clear how this project of ending extremism is going to work.

0:50:320:50:37

We have seen historically that when governments repressed

0:50:370:50:40

Islamist or Islamic groups, they have gone violent,

0:50:400:50:44

so his repressive measures now may lead to be counter-productive.

0:50:440:50:48

They may actually lead to more extremism.

0:50:480:50:51

A lot of what Saudi officials - particularly the Crown Prince -

0:50:520:50:57

say about "moderate Islam" is intended more for a Western

0:50:570:51:01

audience than it is for an internal audience.

0:51:010:51:04

Saudi Arabia is trying to curb the excesses of extremism within

0:51:040:51:10

the Wahhabist movement but they are not going to divorce

0:51:100:51:14

themselves from the kind of ideology which is at the basis

0:51:140:51:20

of their legitimacy as rulers of the Arabian Peninsula.

0:51:200:51:24

The Crown Prince has raised hopes that he can be a new

0:51:260:51:29

force for moderation and security.

0:51:290:51:32

But much depends on the man himself

0:51:330:51:35

and whether he can rein in growing and destructive sectarian forces.

0:51:350:51:40

The brutal war in Yemen has been

0:52:190:52:21

personally directed by the Crown Prince.

0:52:210:52:24

His aggressive tactics have led to allegations of targeting civilians.

0:52:250:52:30

Shira Mohammed and family were holding a funeral for his brother,

0:52:320:52:36

killed in recent fighting.

0:52:360:52:38

Seven women and one young girl were killed.

0:53:290:53:32

Ten others were badly injured.

0:53:320:53:34

The missile that killed them is thought to have been

0:53:360:53:38

fired by a fighter jet from the Saudi-led coalition.

0:53:380:53:42

Their military campaign in Yemen is backed by Britain and America.

0:53:440:53:49

ROAR OF JET

0:54:320:54:34

EXPLOSION

0:54:340:54:35

According to the UN, at least 10,000 people have been killed.

0:54:350:54:39

The Saudis say they are supporting the elected government of Yemen,

0:54:410:54:44

and defending themselves against rebel attacks on Saudi Arabia.

0:54:440:54:48

Sunni Saudi Arabia claims the mainly Shia

0:54:490:54:52

rebels in Yemen are backed by an expansionist and aggressive Iran.

0:54:520:54:57

But the Saudi-led blockade has put millions of Yemenis at risk

0:54:590:55:03

of starvation and cholera.

0:55:030:55:06

It was a necessary water to enter into.

0:55:080:55:10

Now, it may have been executed in a flawed way at certain times,

0:55:100:55:14

the messaging about it might not have been good,

0:55:140:55:17

but it is a necessary war to defend the security of Saudi Arabia -

0:55:170:55:20

people don't appreciate that.

0:55:200:55:22

Crown Prince Salman's promise to crack down on

0:55:510:55:54

extremism has been welcomed in the West,

0:55:540:55:57

but some fear his aggressive foreign policy has opened

0:55:570:56:00

a new chapter of instability in the Middle East.

0:56:000:56:04

There is no doubt that what we have seen in Saudi Arabia is

0:56:080:56:11

pretty unprecedented.

0:56:110:56:12

It is aggressive, it is assertive

0:56:140:56:17

and it is getting itself stuck into some real conundrums in the region.

0:56:170:56:21

All of a sudden we don't quite know where this goes.

0:56:230:56:26

SHOUTING

0:56:290:56:31

SIRENS

0:56:310:56:33

Saudi Arabia is engaged now in the most intense sectarian

0:56:370:56:41

proxy conflict that we have seen in modern Middle East history.

0:56:410:56:45

Neither Saudi Arabia nor Iran any more is

0:56:480:56:50

able to keep from just stoking, stoking and stoking.

0:56:500:56:53

It is burning from Syria and Lebanon to Iraq, to Yemen

0:56:540:56:59

to inside the Kingdom, to Bahrain

0:56:590:57:01

to Kuwait and places like that.

0:57:010:57:04

Thousands if not tens of thousands of people are at risk

0:57:040:57:08

at a sectarian conflict that has burned out of control.

0:57:080:57:11

I think the danger is that the Arab world in the last five

0:57:140:57:19

years has begun walking into an abyss of hell.

0:57:190:57:22

MONITORS BEEP

0:57:260:57:29

A five-star hotel turned into a prison for princes and billionaires.

0:57:530:57:59

This was dramatic. It was almost like a theatrical performance.

0:57:590:58:03

It opened the door on a secret world of huge kickbacks

0:58:030:58:07

and bribes.

0:58:070:58:09

Saudi Arabia is probably the most corrupt country on the planet

0:58:090:58:14

and that corruption goes to the very top of the Saudi Royal Family.

0:58:140:58:19

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