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Justin, would you prefer not to have autism?

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But I have autism. That's my life.

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Do you like having autism?

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But autism is my life. That's all.

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What does your autism make you do?

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How does it make you different from other people?

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-I don't know.

-Maybe he's had it, he's on overload.

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I'm so overwhelmed with questions.

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I enjoy the honesty that Justin shows.

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He's honest about finding things annoying, and at the same time

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sometimes I feel like maybe I am being boring,

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which isn't such a great feeling.

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Yes, it is bland.

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'For several days, I'd been spending time among children

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'diagnosed with autism, a condition of the brain

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'often associated with a lack of interest in others.

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'Around 1 child in 100 has autism.

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'Those severely affected can sometimes behave in a way

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'that is profoundly challenging for the people who care for them.

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'And yet, with the right intervention,

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'they can also make amazing progress.'

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Konnichiwa, watashi wa Nicholas.

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'One of America's top schools for autism is here in New Jersey.

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'By visiting some of the pupils, I was hoping to get a glimpse

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'of what life was like for their families.

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'The tough choices they have to make over how to raise their children.'

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What's your name?

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Hello?

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'And to experience for myself the pleasures and the strains

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'of one of the most extraordinary kinds of relationship.'

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-I need help.

-You need help with what?

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You ate your doughnut already, you're not getting another one.

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'Paula Vieira has three children, of whom two are autistic -

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'the seven-year-old twins Marcelo and Lucy.

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CHILD SOBS

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'During the Saturday errands, Marcelo had become distressed

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'that we hadn't stopped at the supermarket,

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'part of his usual routine.'

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I know you want to go shopping. We're going to go to Dr Mark.

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Don't hit me. You need nice hands. You need nice hands. OK?

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Stop. You need nice hands. You need nice hands. Now stop that!

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HE WAILS

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Both Marcelo and Lucy have autism.

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What is autism, as you understand it?

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As I understand it? It is a neurological disorder.

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Cause unknown. Cure unknown.

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-Right, Lucy. Where do you want to go?

-Outside.

-You want to go outside?

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Hi, Lucy. How are you doing?

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Would you like to say hello, Lucy?

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How are you?

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-Was I doing something wrong, or...?

-No, you weren't.

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You see, Lucy, now, she's an independent little soul.

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She'll sit up there on that swing all by herself

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without even making the connection

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that there's a whole world around her.

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Do Marcelo and Lucy know that they're autistic?

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No. I doubt it.

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I don't think they know what day it is.

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I just try and make them happy.

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I sense you're pretty stressed about this whole thing.

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I'm heartbroken.

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God forgive me, but...

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..I don't get a lot of enjoyment from them.

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To wait five years to hear someone call you "Mom"

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after daily doing everything for them to keep them safe

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and give them comfort and provide for them, it's...

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..it's tough, you know?

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'Marcelo and Lucy attend a state school

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'specially designed for autistic kids.'

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We're from the BBC and we're very pleased to meet you.

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HE SINGS GIBBERISH

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'The Developmental Learning Centre in Warren, New Jersey,

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'has around 250 children.'

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-Say "car".

-Car.

-Good!

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Say "cheese it".

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'It takes an age range of three to 21-years old and prides itself

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'on turning no-one away, no matter how disruptive their behaviour.'

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That's the one we're working on. B.

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'Much of the work focuses on social interaction.'

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You say, "What's your favourite movie?" He says, "Red Tails".

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-Then, you could say...

-"That's cool".

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-My favourite movie is Lord Of The Rings.

-OK. We have our script.

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Now, you guys are going to act it out.

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-Hey, what's up?

-Nothing much.

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SCREECHING

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Cut.

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'A small percentage of students make enough progress to move

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'to a more mainstream school.'

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Hey, Nick.

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'The latest to make the jump was 19-year-old Nicky Ingrassia.'

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I'm graduating high school.

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You graduated from here, and are moving on to a new school.

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But that's not graduating high school.

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-Well, it kind of is from here.

-You're moving on.

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What about my old friends? They're going to miss me to death.

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You want to be challenged and this is a great opportunity for you.

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-Yes, but I have a fear of getting homework.

-Oh!

-You know what?

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I can give you homework now to prepare you!

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The idea is you'll be in a school where the other students

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are at a higher educational level than the ones here.

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-Yes.

-Which you will enjoy.

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-Most likely.

-You hope to.

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-I hope to.

-Are you nervous?

-Yeah.

-Why?

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Because it might be a bit harder, and the challenge might increase.

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-Do you get a lot of anxiety?

-What's anxiety?

-Do you get anxious?

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-Sometimes.

-What makes you nervous?

-The students who don't know better

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who have nothing better to do with their lives

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but to bother the crap out of me.

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How about the work, does it make you nervous?

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-The work we ask of you?

-Yeah,

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cos most of the of the time, it's pointless.

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-Why is it pointless?

-Because it's either too easy or too hard.

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So Nicky has challenges

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that a non-autistic person might not have?

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Educationally?

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-Exactly.

-Which are what?

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Coping with frustration

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and being told to do a job and complete it.

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You don't want to talk about this? You look uncomfortable.

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-I'm not comfortable.

-Why? What's making you uncomfortable?

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-This is a good way for you to express yourself.

-You see that?

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-OK, come here.

-What was it?

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A kid having a hissy fit. That's one reason why I shouldn't be here.

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JAZZ MUSIC

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'It's not uncommon for children at the DLC to have aggressive tantrums.

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-'I was curious to meet one of these pupils.'

-Hi! Oh, it's you.

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How was your day, Joe?

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'Joey Morales Ward is 13 years old

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'and lives in Morris Town with his mother, Carole.'

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-Hi, Joey!

-Hi, Joey!

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That's what we do.

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-W....say cheese!

-Yeah.

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-Were those chips good? Yes.

-Yes.

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You've got to be quiet cos they're asking me a question about you.

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Coo-wa-a-woo. Say cheese.

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-How are you, Joey?

-Are those cameras?

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-Those are cameras, yes, but he asked you, how are you?

-Good.

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-Good. Joey had a behaviour today.

-Yes, he did.

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He had a behaviour today.

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The teacher said he went after her, which means he got up

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from what he was doing and started to attack her.

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They had to restrain him.

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How often does that happen?

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-Erm, at least once a day, sometimes twice.

-With Joey?

-Yeah.

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-Every day?

-Yeah.

-Why does he do it?

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I want to say part of it is lack of communication,

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but at this point, because they have gotten worse in the last two years,

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I want to say puberty.

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How does Joey fall on the autistic spectrum?

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Medically, he is considered severely autistic

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because of the lack of communication, but there are kids

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with communication that have more severe behaviours than him.

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There's no... It's a huge spectrum.

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There's no one thing that you can say that each kid has.

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-Hi, Joey!

-Hi!

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JOEY MAKES NOISES

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-I'm Louis.

-Hi, Louis.

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If you could take the autism away, would you do it?

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Yes, I always pray for that miracle.

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One day, I was in church and my daughter says,

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"Mom, do you know that God made him that way?"

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So then, I'm like, God made him that way...

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to make me learn a lesson, probably.

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Hi, Kate! Say hi!

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-'Carole's daughter, Kate, is not autistic.'

-Hi, Kate.

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-You don't want to say hi? You're being shy.

-It's OK.

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I'm just going to bring her in.

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SCREAMING

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In, in, in, in.

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Down, down, down.

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CONTINUOUS SCREAMING

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I might call my husband. Would you mind?

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Hold his legs.

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Breathe.

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-Go get some water.

-Shall I get some water?

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Thanks.

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-Would you like us to step out?

-No - unless I let you film,

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nobody's going to ever know that this is true autism. That's it.

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A lot of parents don't want you to see that.

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Breathe through your nose, Joseph.

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DEEP BREATHS

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-Are you sorry?

-Sorry, yes.

-OK. Can I have a kiss?

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-Everything's OK, now?

-Everything's OK, now.

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-When will we say cheese?

-Everything's OK.

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I'm Louis. Nice to meet you. How was that for you downstairs?

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Is that still an emotional thing to see that?

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It's very emotional...

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and I know he's getting, you know, taller and bigger than me,

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and I know one day I can probably not control him at all.

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Sometimes he came after you and punched you for no reason.

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If I say the word "no", he comes like a bulldog on top of me

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-and punches me.

-Does it ever affect how you feel about Joey?

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No.

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I remember when she was pregnant and she told me she had a baby boy.

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I was happy.

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I would like him to be a doctor or a lawyer, big things in my dreams.

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But in the end, 18 months later, I found out he was autistic.

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Now, I don't care anymore.

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I would be happy if he was a dishwasher or a landscaper.

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This sounds like a strange question,

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but does it make it harder to love him?

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No, I love him. It's like any regular child.

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'A few miles away in Scotch Plains, New Jersey, lives Mary Ingrassia.'

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-Hi, Mary.

-Hi, Louis.

-How are you doing?

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-'A teacher, and the mother of Nicky.'

-Nicky's in the basement.

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-He's running upstairs right now.

-Here's everything.

-Wow!

-It's a lot.

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-Is Britney here as well?

-Yes.

-Where is Britney?

-Britney?

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Britney is Nicky's twin. You're 19 as well.

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-How do you do? I'm Louis.

-Hello.

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Has it been helpful for Nicky to have a twin?

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I think it's been helpful for Nicky to have not only a twin,

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but so many other siblings with their friends coming in.

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Because he gets socialised, gets to mix and mingle.

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But Nicky was born normal.

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How old was Nicky when you realised there was something different?

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-About 18 months old.

-What happened?

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He literally woke up one morning,

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he went into a total regression.

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He stopped babbling, he stopped crawling,

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he just stopped doing everything.

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-How has Nicky done at DLC?

-Nicky's done great.

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They have taught Nicky way above and beyond my expectations.

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-How?

-I overgrew the challenge.

-Look at him!

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What would stop him from going to a mainstream school?

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-Forget it, I couldn't go.

-I think just the idea of normal children.

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Being bullies?

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-Yeah.

-There's kids I have problems with in my class.

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This morning, I was so angry, I said,

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"I'm going to stab this kid if he doesn't shut up."

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What did I tell you about talking like that?

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-It's freedom of speech!

-No, you can't do that.

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-What did I tell you about talking like that?

-Never do it.

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-And what did you do?

-I said it anyway cos I was angry.

-Why?

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-Because I was angry!

-I'm sorry.

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That's trouble. They can arrest you. You'll go to jail!

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-No way!

-Oh, yeah.

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-Do you want that to happen?

-No way.

-Cos that's a threat.

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-I'm not kidding.

-I hear you loud and clear! You're not funny.

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-You're not funny cos we already spoke about this.

-Oh, I'm not funny?

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Am I laughing? No!

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-Quit overreacting.

-Stop it, Nicky. You're aggravating me right now.

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Everybody needs to stop, that's the thing.

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If you could take away Nicky's autism, would you do it?

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-No.

-Why not?

-Cos he's too special.

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He also does so many things that you've never seen before.

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I don't think any of my other children could do what Nicky does.

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'Nicky's written a number of dictionaries

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'and a novel called Dragonula,

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'which he was keen to show me.'

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These two are Japanese books which is my favourite language to learn.

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I'm starting to write the entire alphabet

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in Hiragana, Katakana and Kanji.

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-Do you speak Japanese?

-Yes.

-How do you say, "hello, my name is Nicky."?

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Konnichiwa, watashi wa Nicholas.

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-Very good.

-Next we have German.

-Can we move on to Dragonula?

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-Not yet.

-Oh.

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Next we have Chinese simplified,

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and, last but not least, the Hindi language book.

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Hindi is the language that they speak in India. That's it for those,

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now we're moving on to the most anticipated work of them all.

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-The Dragonula novel by me, of course.

-You wrote this whole book?

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-The whole book. It's inspired by dragon law.

-About dragon law.

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Yes, dragon law - or, if it's British English, it's Dragonula.

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-Would you read us a tiny bit of the book?

-Sure, I'll read the prologue.

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"The year was 1462. In a medieval Europe civilisation setting built in ancient Japan,

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"there once lived a sympathic Japanese Romanian black dragon.

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"Mona has committed suicide by diving off the castle's tower.

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"Zenaiku screams in despair as he slowly goes down to his death

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"as the blood rises up, a fort-high blood pool."

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-Great.

-What do you think?

-Terrific.

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This school that Nicky is about to start.

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-He'll stay in there until how long?

-Until he's 21.

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-After then, what happens?

-I'm not really sure.

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-I'm not sure where we're going to go after that.

-Will he still stay here?

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-Oh, yeah, of course.

-For how long?

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-Nicky will live here as long as I'm alive.

-As long as Mom's alive.

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And then, you know...

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-And then Britney will take him?

-Britney or one of his brothers.

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-You would do that, Britney?

-Of course. He's my twin brother.

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May I move on to another thing? OK, every...

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-Mom, you're ruining it.

-Sorry.

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Touch your head.

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Head! Look, touch!

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'I was back at the DLC,

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'hoping for more insight into the methods of the school.'

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-Lucy, can you tell me how he feels?

-Mad.

-He does feel mad.

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'Children on the autistic spectrum

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'often have trouble with skills most people regard as instinctive.'

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-How does he feel?

-Surprised.

-He does not feel surprised, he feels...

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-Happy.

-He does. Show me happy.

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'The school tries to teach these abilities

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'using strictly regimented phases of work and break

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-'to incentivise learning.'

-Three stars, you get a break.

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Good.

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'I'd arranged to spend some school time with Joey

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-'and his behaviour specialist Kim Spurlock.'

-Good job.

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So, he looks for the price of the item and there are two items

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-and he adds up the price, and gets a result.

-Right.

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-He seems to be doing well.

-Yes. He's made progress.

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We are really trying to focus on his behaviours,

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trying to decrease them.

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And Joey's strengths?

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That he can work on an activity for long periods of time,

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especially the vocational tasks.

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I have...

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-I am...

-I am finished.

-Good. Let's do collating and stapling.

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Something like this is what I was talking about, his strengths.

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He can stay on task.

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He can do an activity or job and work through it

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and complete the activity.

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-What are you drawing, Joey?

-Girl.

-Are you drawing a girl?

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Does she have a name?

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-Who is this?

-Girl with ponytails.

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Girl with ponytails. Very nice.

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ALARM

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Break is... there you are, finished.

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SCREECHING

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Lie him back.

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Bye.

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-This is your class?

-This is my class.

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'A little later, I checked in with a teacher called Matt Fernandez,

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'curious to meet a few of Nicky's peers.'

0:21:330:21:36

Hi! How are you? Hi! Nice to meet you.

0:21:360:21:40

Bradley, will you stand up for a second and talk to us, please?

0:21:400:21:45

Thank you, Bradley.

0:21:450:21:46

-Matt is your teacher, how do you get on with Matt?

-Him?

-Yeah.

0:21:460:21:51

-I dunno.

-How old is he?

-Not how old I am. How do we get along?

0:21:510:21:56

-Do you like being in my class?

-Yeah.

-What will you do when you graduate?

0:21:560:22:01

-Where do you work now?

-TK Maxx.

0:22:010:22:06

-That's a department store?

-Yeah.

0:22:060:22:08

-What do you do there?

-What did I do? You know, fold.

-You folded.

0:22:080:22:14

-I fold the towels.

-Good, thanks, Bradley.

-You're welcome.

0:22:140:22:19

-This is Tyler Smith.

-Hi, I'm Louis. Nice to meet you.

-This is Tyler.

0:22:190:22:26

-Hi, Tyler.

-Hi!

-Tyler has pens.

-Takia has a knack for geography.

0:22:260:22:31

You can give him any country in the world and he'll give you the capital.

0:22:310:22:35

-For real?

-For real.

-What's the capital of Great Britain?

0:22:350:22:38

-London.

-Good.

0:22:380:22:40

-France?

-Paris.

-Madagascar?

-Antananarivo.

0:22:400:22:45

-Tibet?

-No Tibet anymore.

-OK, Tibet doesn't count.

0:22:450:22:50

'Nicky had just a few days left

0:22:520:22:54

'before transferring to his new school.

0:22:540:22:56

'I joined him for one of his last art classes.'

0:22:560:23:00

-I'm Louis.

-I'm Tommy.

-Louis, nice to meet you. How are you doing? Louis.

0:23:000:23:04

-Oh, my God.

-Tell me briefly what's happening in here.

0:23:040:23:07

This is the Comic Book Club. We have it for an hour a week.

0:23:070:23:12

The rule is that they have to develop their own characters.

0:23:120:23:16

I've just shown my teacher my novel that I mentioned the other day.

0:23:160:23:21

It's right here.

0:23:210:23:23

His job is...

0:23:230:23:26

..to interact with everybody and help them out.

0:23:260:23:28

-You're sort of co-teaching.

-Yeah, I co-teach. It's called collaboration.

0:23:280:23:34

That's the most important thing here, the kids interacting with each other.

0:23:340:23:38

Yeah, but I'm going to miss my friends.

0:23:380:23:41

Yeah, why don't you talk about how you feel about Nick leaving?

0:23:410:23:45

-We feel happy for him.

-Why?

-Because I'll get to do other things.

0:23:450:23:50

-He deserves to go to a different school.

-Why?

-Because I'm special.

0:23:500:23:54

Because he's special. All the kids there could speak.

0:23:540:24:00

Just about all the kids could speak, they are like a higher level.

0:24:000:24:05

-Johnny, how do you feel about Nicky leaving?

-I feel great for him.

0:24:050:24:10

I am really proud that he's going to leave

0:24:100:24:12

because I'm going to miss him. He's one of my best friends.

0:24:120:24:15

-Me too.

-Would you like to be going with him?

-Yeah.

0:24:150:24:18

Years ago, we had violent behaviours

0:24:180:24:21

cos we didn't know any better.

0:24:210:24:23

-It was a tough break.

-Yes, it was.

-But as we got older,

0:24:230:24:27

we got mature and we were intelligent enough to learn more

0:24:270:24:31

of the real world.

0:24:310:24:32

-Let's go and say hi to George.

-'I was back with the Vieiras.'

0:24:430:24:48

Look how long your hair is. Look, it's like a wig, George.

0:24:480:24:52

Paula was taking Marcelo for a haircut.

0:24:520:24:55

HE SHOUTS

0:24:550:24:57

No, we're not going yet. We're going to cut our hair.

0:24:570:25:00

HE SOBS It's OK.

0:25:000:25:02

Do NOT hit your sister! Stop it!

0:25:020:25:05

HE SCREAMS, SHE CRIES

0:25:050:25:10

I've got Peppa Pig on my iPhone.

0:25:130:25:15

Do you know Peppa Pig?

0:25:150:25:17

I do not know Pepper Pig.

0:25:170:25:19

PHONE PLAYS TUNE

0:25:190:25:22

LOUIS SIGHS

0:25:220:25:24

I'm right here. Your sister's going to the bathroom.

0:25:240:25:26

-Have you seen Peppa Pig?

-Nope!

0:25:260:25:28

Look, Marce.

0:25:280:25:30

Do you want to hold it? Do you want to hold it?

0:25:300:25:33

PHONE PLAYS TUNE

0:25:330:25:40

'I was curious about the strain

0:25:450:25:46

'that raising autistic children can put on a marriage.'

0:25:460:25:50

-Say goodnight.

-No!

-Goodnight.

0:25:500:25:53

What do you want? Talk to Daddy.

0:25:530:25:55

Back at the house, and Paula's husband, Paulo, had finished work.

0:25:550:26:00

-Cheers!

-Cheers!

0:26:000:26:01

'With the children in bed, we re-grouped in the kitchen.'

0:26:010:26:04

-How are you feeling?

-Tired!

0:26:040:26:06

Long day. Very, very long day with the kids.

0:26:060:26:09

-It's like we're still stuck in toddler stage.

-Yeah.

0:26:090:26:12

We haven't got out of the terrible twos yet.

0:26:120:26:14

It just keeps building up and building up and building up.

0:26:140:26:18

And then...he's angry and mad.

0:26:180:26:21

Marriage is...it's true, it'll never be the same.

0:26:230:26:26

It's never the same. Mmm-mmm.

0:26:260:26:28

-It's not the same as it was before, do you mean?

-No.

0:26:280:26:32

Well, there's not like that laughter, fun part any more, you know? It's...

0:26:340:26:37

We miss out a lot.

0:26:370:26:40

So the only place you can take it out is on each other.

0:26:400:26:43

Like, we don't go on vacation. You know what I mean?

0:26:430:26:47

We don't go to parties.

0:26:470:26:48

And we are seeing what regular kids are doing outside, and...

0:26:480:26:53

I know exactly how he feels, because when you see typical children,

0:27:010:27:06

you...you can't help

0:27:060:27:10

but wish that that was your son playing on the football field.

0:27:100:27:16

Or your daughter cheerleading on the sidelines.

0:27:160:27:19

Or, you know, being in the school play, and doing things that kids do.

0:27:190:27:23

-You OK?

-Mmm.

0:27:300:27:32

-Go ahead.

-I just wanted to check on you.

-I'm OK, OK?

0:27:350:27:39

HE LAUGHS: I'm back!

0:27:440:27:46

-Are you OK?

-Yeah.

0:27:460:27:48

MUSIC: Mozart's Piano Sonata No.4

0:27:480:27:51

-Is this where you are?

-This is my homeroom. The sharp right.

0:28:020:28:05

Come, make yourself comfortable, if you could.

0:28:050:28:08

'By now I was more than a week into my stay,

0:28:080:28:11

'and Nicky had become curious about me.

0:28:110:28:14

'He'd taken the initiative of doing some research of his own.'

0:28:140:28:18

This is what you're best-known for?

0:28:180:28:21

You're working with BBC, making these documentaries and all these TV shows.

0:28:210:28:25

Like, When Louis Met...

0:28:250:28:27

And Louis Theroux's Weird Weekends.

0:28:270:28:29

Those are your two best-known programmes.

0:28:290:28:32

Well, I don't know...maybe.

0:28:320:28:34

Is all this info on your page true?

0:28:340:28:36

Saying that you are the youngest son of the American traveller?

0:28:360:28:40

We don't really have to read that, do we, Nicky?

0:28:400:28:42

You are of Italian descent and American descent.

0:28:420:28:47

-Is that strange to you?

-That's really strange.

-Why?

0:28:470:28:50

-I'm Italian descent as well.

-Well, maybe we're related.

0:28:500:28:54

We probably are. Ha! It's a funny story. It's a funny...

0:28:540:28:58

-Shall we click that away now?

-Sure. I'll move on to something else.

0:28:580:29:01

Thank you.

0:29:010:29:03

'But there was a possible crimp in the plan for Nicky to move schools.

0:29:030:29:07

'His threat of stabbing another student had been reported.'

0:29:070:29:11

-OK, so someone was laughing, right?

-And one was cursing me off.

0:29:110:29:15

'One of the school's behaviour specialists, Dana Silver,

0:29:150:29:17

'had called Nicky into a meeting.'

0:29:170:29:19

What did you do to one of the students?

0:29:190:29:22

Did you say something back to the student?

0:29:220:29:25

Unfortunately. And I was told not to do it again afterwards.

0:29:250:29:28

-All right. So what did you say?

-A threat.

0:29:280:29:31

And what was this threat?

0:29:310:29:32

I screamed, "If you don't stop laughing at me,

0:29:320:29:35

"I'm going to stab you."

0:29:350:29:36

And see how he'll laugh at that.

0:29:360:29:37

And he would feel exactly like how I feel.

0:29:370:29:41

Me being laughed at by him is like being stabbed towards the chest.

0:29:410:29:45

OK.

0:29:450:29:47

Is this something Nicky's done before?

0:29:470:29:50

Yes. Throughout this year.

0:29:500:29:52

-Why?

-Cos they make me so angry.

0:29:520:29:54

I just had to say those threats to get it out of my head.

0:29:540:29:57

And the stakes are higher now, Dana,

0:29:570:30:00

because Nicky's going to this other school?

0:30:000:30:02

-But I'm only one of the very few.

-And it's amazing.

0:30:020:30:05

And we want that to continue for you,

0:30:050:30:07

so we need to make sure we can control your anger.

0:30:070:30:10

And we need to give you strategies of how to deal

0:30:100:30:12

when people don't like things.

0:30:120:30:14

-So these are the strategies?

-Yeah, I think...

0:30:140:30:17

"Move away, ask them to stop, keep doing my work,

0:30:170:30:19

"write in my journal, or tell a teacher."

0:30:190:30:21

-Those are five options.

-Those ARE five options.

0:30:210:30:24

I did tell him to stop and tell a teacher,

0:30:240:30:26

and I tried to move away.

0:30:260:30:28

I did four out of five strategies.

0:30:280:30:30

But you also did something inappropriate.

0:30:300:30:32

You threatened a student, right?

0:30:320:30:35

So are we going to try our best not to make threats?

0:30:350:30:39

-Yes.

-You promise?

-Promise.

0:30:390:30:43

MUSIC: "I'll Write and I'll Draw" by Woody Guthrie

0:30:430:30:45

Though most of the pupils at the school live at home,

0:31:000:31:04

there is a tiny handful whose behaviour

0:31:040:31:06

is so unmanageable that their parents can no longer cope.

0:31:060:31:10

Who am I speaking to? This is Josephine, Brian's mum.

0:31:100:31:14

'I was with a DLC parent called Josephine Engelhardt.'

0:31:140:31:18

Well, I'm on my way to pick up Brian.

0:31:180:31:20

You didn't tell him that I was coming, did you?

0:31:200:31:24

Oh, good. Good. Cos I don't want him to get to be anxious, you know?

0:31:240:31:28

Waiting.

0:31:280:31:30

(FROM INSIDE HOUSE) Look how happy he is!

0:31:300:31:34

Look at that beautiful smile! Mommy loves you!

0:31:340:31:37

Thank you very much. Take care.

0:31:370:31:39

'Brian had burned down the family house, aged eight.

0:31:390:31:42

'He had also repeatedly assaulted his mother.

0:31:420:31:46

'For the last two years, Brian has been living in a group home.'

0:31:460:31:49

SHE LAUGHS

0:31:490:31:52

-Brian, say hello!

-How are you?

-Hey.

-I'm Louis.

0:31:520:31:55

-That's Marco.

-Louis.

0:31:550:31:57

-Oh, I'm sorry!

-That's all right.

0:31:570:31:59

-This is Louis.

-Hi, how are you?

0:31:590:32:01

-Good.

-Nice to meet you.

0:32:010:32:03

The number eight, please.

0:32:060:32:08

Here, honey.

0:32:100:32:12

You can put it there, OK? Here.

0:32:120:32:15

HE CRUNCHES FOOD

0:32:190:32:22

SHE LAUGHS

0:32:220:32:24

He LOVES to eat, Louis! He loves to eat!

0:32:240:32:28

The main course is to come.

0:32:280:32:30

-Ha-ha! He's not going to let me forget it.

-Foo-foo-foo! Me-me!

0:32:300:32:34

Is it? Foo-foo-foo-foo? Me-me?

0:32:340:32:36

-What kind of taco is it?

-Yeah.

0:32:360:32:39

-What kind is it?

-Yeah.

0:32:390:32:42

-Is it beef?

-Beef.

0:32:420:32:44

-Is it chicken?

-Mmm.

0:32:440:32:45

HE CRUNCHES FOOD SHE LAUGHS

0:32:470:32:50

It's crunchy.

0:32:500:32:51

I can hear it crunching.

0:32:510:32:54

You know, he has a tendency, like a lot of autistic...

0:32:540:32:56

You've got to slow down. You're going to make yourself ill.

0:32:560:33:00

-Yeah.

-You're going very quickly.

0:33:000:33:02

-Slow down, Brian. He always did.

-Is he very hungry?

0:33:020:33:05

Or maybe he just likes the sensation of the food?

0:33:050:33:07

No, no. I believe...both.

0:33:070:33:10

I believe that they keep them on a schedule.

0:33:100:33:13

So he cannot just eat at will.

0:33:130:33:16

-Brian seems quite interested in me.

-Yes.

0:33:160:33:19

-Yes.

-See?

0:33:190:33:20

-Are we friends?

-Yeah.

0:33:200:33:23

-Nice to meet you.

-Yeah.

0:33:230:33:25

-We're from England.

-Yeah.

0:33:250:33:28

I mean, there's a cliche about autism,

0:33:280:33:30

that the people can be a little bit insular or inward-looking.

0:33:300:33:35

But Brian seems...quite sociable.

0:33:350:33:40

Exactly! Exactly my point. He's very sociable.

0:33:400:33:45

Foo-foo-foo! Me-me! Foo!

0:33:450:33:47

-High five!

-Foo-foo!

-Thank you.

0:33:470:33:50

Food's coming. We've got to get back to the house.

0:33:500:33:52

'While Josephine went off to get more food, I was left in charge.'

0:33:520:33:58

-How are you doing?

-Yeah.

-Are you good?

-Yeah.

0:34:000:34:02

-How are you feeling?

-Yeah.

-Good?

-Yeah.

0:34:020:34:04

-Do you ever play with these?

-Yeah.

0:34:160:34:18

-What do you do with them?

-HE MUMBLES

0:34:180:34:21

-Dominoes?

-Yeah.

0:34:210:34:22

-What do you do with them? Do you ever do this?

-Yeah.

0:34:220:34:25

-Do you want to push that one?

-Yeah.

0:34:280:34:30

-That's fun, isn't it?

-Yeah.

-Shall I do it again?

-Yeah.

0:34:300:34:32

-Are you ready to push?

-Yeah.

-You push.

0:34:320:34:35

-Good!

-Yeah.

-Was that fun?

-Yeah.

-I thought so.

0:34:390:34:42

-OK, I'm going to do the whole lot. Will you help?

-Yeah.

0:34:430:34:47

-You want to build one?

-Mmm-hmm.

-You build one.

0:34:470:34:49

OK, you don't have to.

0:34:500:34:52

OK, I'm building another one.

0:34:550:34:56

Brian?

0:34:590:35:00

Brian?

0:35:030:35:05

Brian?

0:35:070:35:08

-You OK?

-Yeah.

0:35:080:35:10

I've got the dominoes.

0:35:100:35:13

I've got the dominoes.

0:35:130:35:15

Can you push the domino?

0:35:150:35:16

HE CRUNCHES FOOD

0:35:180:35:21

OK, honey. One minute, one minute.

0:35:210:35:23

Here. Here, sweetheart.

0:35:230:35:25

What made you decide you couldn't handle Brian at home any more?

0:35:250:35:29

OK. I knew deep down that things were unbearable.

0:35:290:35:35

Absolutely unbearable.

0:35:350:35:38

To be afraid of your child is a terrible thing.

0:35:380:35:42

You know, to be...having to hide,

0:35:420:35:46

or having to run away, because...

0:35:460:35:50

Brian! No, no, no. That's not yours. That's not yours.

0:35:500:35:54

Go have a can. Grab a can from the refrigerator.

0:35:540:35:58

You want a can?

0:35:580:36:00

-Lasagn...

-No, no, no.

0:36:000:36:02

See, he says, "Lasagne". He knows how to say it.

0:36:020:36:05

No. No. See?

0:36:050:36:07

It's almost like a glutton, you know what I'm saying?

0:36:070:36:10

He goes from one, you know, relentlessly...

0:36:100:36:12

Brian, no! No. OK?

0:36:120:36:15

(SHE LAUGHS): All right.

0:36:150:36:16

-He had a little bit of a look on, then. Did you see it?

-(SHE LAUGHS)

0:36:160:36:19

-What did that mean?

-Because I said no.

0:36:190:36:22

Like he was trying to intimidate you a little bit.

0:36:220:36:26

But it's nothing in comparison to how it was.

0:36:260:36:29

It was pretty unbearable.

0:36:290:36:31

So the times that Brian did hurt you, how would he hurt you?

0:36:310:36:36

He would grab me, and you know, I would lose chunks of hair.

0:36:360:36:39

Sometimes it would get real scary.

0:36:390:36:41

He would grab my throat and he could easily choke me that way.

0:36:410:36:45

< Lasagne.

0:36:450:36:48

Huh? No, honey. No, you're...Brian!

0:36:480:36:51

-Brian, go over there.

-Lasagne.

0:36:510:36:52

SHE LAUGHS You think he's being aggressive!

0:36:520:36:55

That's not being aggressive at all!

0:36:550:36:58

No, Brian, leave the kitty alone.

0:36:580:37:00

He's got a mischievous streak, though, you know?

0:37:000:37:03

SHE LAUGHS CAT MEOWS

0:37:030:37:06

He seemed a little more cuddly in the car,

0:37:060:37:08

and now he's making me a little nervous.

0:37:080:37:10

SHE LAUGHS Wait a minute.

0:37:100:37:11

No, you don't. No, No. CAT MEOWS

0:37:110:37:14

-Leave the kitty alone.

-(HE MUMBLES)

-Yes, go ahead. Lay down.

0:37:140:37:17

He's actually trying to be friendly, believe it or not.

0:37:170:37:20

-Brian! No, no, you cannot touch that.

-He can do that if he wants to.

0:37:200:37:24

Does he have behaviours at the residence?

0:37:240:37:27

At the home that he's in?

0:37:270:37:30

The only time... Hardly ever, he's like...

0:37:300:37:33

they tell me he's one of the best-behaved there.

0:37:330:37:36

The only time that he does is food-related.

0:37:360:37:39

So at the moment, basically, during the week

0:37:390:37:41

Brian lives at the group home

0:37:410:37:43

and then he comes back at weekends just during the day.

0:37:430:37:47

Saturday, Sunday during the day he's with you?

0:37:470:37:49

Right. Only because...

0:37:490:37:51

-But he doesn't spend the night here, ever?

-Yes, he has.

0:37:510:37:54

And it's been a disaster every time!

0:37:540:37:57

Because he doesn't sleep.

0:37:570:37:59

'Brian had been put on medication, which Josephine felt was helping

0:38:070:38:11

'with his impulsivity.

0:38:110:38:13

'Still, it was striking how warm he was, and how friendly.'

0:38:130:38:16

-Who?

-Brian.

0:38:170:38:18

Yeah, that's Brian.

0:38:200:38:21

Who do you think that is?

0:38:210:38:23

-Yeah, Brian.

-Yeah, that's Brian.

0:38:230:38:26

'I'd been concerned that Brian might not deal well with

0:38:260:38:29

'the end of the visit.

0:38:290:38:30

'But when the time came,

0:38:300:38:33

'he was the one who asked to be taken back home.'

0:38:330:38:36

-You're waiting for us?

-Yeah.

-Good job! Good job waiting, Brian.

0:38:360:38:40

-Where do you want to go?

-To the house? OK.

0:38:400:38:43

-How much do you think I love you?

-Too much.

0:38:460:38:48

-Too much?

-Yeah.

0:38:480:38:51

SALSA MUSIC PLAYS

0:38:540:38:58

-Am I picking you up tomorrow?

-Yeah.

0:39:170:39:19

I'm going to pick you up tomorrow?

0:39:190:39:21

-Yeah.

-OK, sweetheart. Come here. I love you.

0:39:210:39:25

-Nice to meet you.

-Aw!

0:39:250:39:27

-Goodnight.

-You get in here?

0:39:270:39:30

Yeah.

0:39:300:39:31

OK. You go right through.

0:39:310:39:33

Oh, thank you. Thank you for watching over him.

0:39:330:39:35

(FROM INSIDE) Take care!

0:39:350:39:37

-God bless you.

-God bless you too.

0:39:370:39:39

-Goodnight.

-Goodnight. Thank you.

0:39:390:39:42

-He seems very happy.

-Yeah, he is.

0:39:420:39:44

He's a happy little kid, he really is.

0:39:440:39:46

Why do you think he's so much more mellow now?

0:39:460:39:50

Because he is in a much more mellow environment.

0:39:500:39:54

You couldn't create that environment at home?

0:39:540:39:58

Not with the pressures.

0:39:580:40:00

We were just so...bogged down and so tired.

0:40:000:40:05

-Swamped?

-So frustrated. Exactly.

0:40:050:40:07

Are you happier now as well?

0:40:070:40:09

I am happy, you know, in a certain way, that I'm a lot less stressful,

0:40:090:40:17

my life right now.

0:40:170:40:19

But I'm also sad in another way, because he's not with me.

0:40:190:40:24

'It was the morning of Nicky's first day at his new school.

0:40:340:40:37

'I'd arranged to visit him at home.'

0:40:390:40:42

-I'm sorry.

-That's all right. Hi, how are you doing?

0:40:420:40:44

Nice to see you. How's it going?

0:40:440:40:47

How are you doing, Nicky?

0:40:470:40:50

-I'm tired a bit.

-Nick, are you nervous?

-Yeah.

0:40:510:40:55

High five.

0:40:550:40:57

I'm curious whether there's more students at DLC Warren

0:41:000:41:03

-who'll be able to make the kind of progress you've made?

-Probably not.

0:41:030:41:07

-Mary, was Nick ever diagnosed with severe autism?

-Yes.

0:41:070:41:11

-Severe?

-When he was little.

-Was he?

-But I overcame.

0:41:110:41:16

He was non-verbal. I mean, he wouldn't do anything.

0:41:160:41:18

-I overcame that.

-He just screamed.

-Until he was?

-I would say about six.

0:41:180:41:22

So that's amazing, isn't it? The journey that he's been on.

0:41:220:41:25

-How did he start communicating?

-Honestly?

0:41:250:41:28

My parents took Nicky to a church,

0:41:310:41:34

a cathedral in Philadelphia, St John Paul Neumann's church.

0:41:340:41:38

And I don't know if it was a miracle or something that, you know,

0:41:400:41:44

was supposed to happen, but the next day,

0:41:440:41:47

after the visitation of the church, Nicky said to me, "Hi, Mom."

0:41:470:41:52

-What?!

-Just as clear as day.

0:41:520:41:55

Crazy. True, though. I don't know, maybe it was coincidence.

0:41:550:42:00

-He said, "Hi, Mum."

-Mm.

0:42:000:42:03

-And then after that, he just added more words?

-Mm-hmm.

0:42:030:42:06

It's a little bit of a miracle, right?

0:42:060:42:09

Yeah, but, but, I think it's a... I think it's a disaster

0:42:090:42:12

-at the same time, too.

-Why?

0:42:120:42:15

My mouth got me into a lot of trouble throughout my life.

0:42:150:42:19

'With the school day soon starting, there was still no sign of the bus.'

0:42:210:42:25

Where is it?

0:42:250:42:27

HE SIGHS

0:42:270:42:29

-Do you feel anxious?

-Yes.

-Would you like a hug?

0:42:290:42:33

I'm not gay. LOUIS LAUGHS

0:42:340:42:36

-What was that reaction?!

-I'm like, "I'm not gay!"

0:42:360:42:40

He doesn't mean it like that, Nick.

0:42:400:42:42

-Not like a gay hug, like a reassuring hug.

-OK, fine.

0:42:420:42:46

Hugged by a celebrity.

0:42:470:42:49

-THEY LAUGH

-Hugged by a celebrity!

0:42:490:42:52

-Hugged by a celebrity.

-Ah, Louis.

0:42:520:42:55

-Was that nice?

-Yes, it was, when you hugged me.

-Aw.

0:42:550:42:58

LOUIS LAUGHS But the gay thing, no.

0:42:580:43:01

Where is it?

0:43:070:43:10

-We could take Nicky.

-You could do that?

0:43:100:43:12

Yeah, that would be great.

0:43:120:43:14

-Be a good boy. God bless.

-I'm a bit, I'm really nervous.

-I know you are.

0:43:170:43:21

-OK.

-I'm so anxious and nervous.

0:43:210:43:23

-You're going to be fine.

-I hope I will.

0:43:230:43:27

-Love you.

-Bye, now.

0:43:270:43:29

See you later, love. Good luck.

0:43:290:43:32

LOCKER SQUEAKS

0:43:520:43:54

Oh, God.

0:43:540:43:56

-Nick! How are you?

-I'm new. This is my first day here.

0:43:570:44:01

-I'm so happy you're back.

-I know.

0:44:010:44:03

-That's Louis. He's from the BBC and he's popular in the UK.

-Really?

0:44:030:44:07

-He has a Wikipedia page.

-Dang! You must be lucky.

0:44:070:44:11

Thank you very much.

0:44:110:44:12

-How do you know Nick?

-He's an old friend of mine.

0:44:120:44:15

I have known her for... I've known her, six years ago.

0:44:150:44:18

Yep, six years ago we met in middle school. He's a good friend of mine.

0:44:180:44:22

-And now Nick's back.

-Hi! Good morning.

0:44:220:44:24

How are you? Welcome, welcome, welcome. Are you excited?

0:44:240:44:27

-Yes. I'm nervous, too.

-A little nervous.

0:44:270:44:29

-OK. Let's go to the room.

-OK.

0:44:290:44:32

-So you can kind of hang out.

-OK.

0:44:350:44:38

It's gonna be all right, don't worry.

0:44:380:44:40

-I'm already anxious and nervous to death.

-Don't worry, Nicky.

0:44:400:44:42

-You're going to be fine.

-We'll both help.

-Thank you, girls.

0:44:420:44:45

-It's all right, Nicky.

-Hey, Nick. Come here.

0:44:450:44:48

This is where we sign in every morning.

0:44:480:44:51

Good, there we go.

0:44:510:44:54

-Nice job.

-Thank you.

0:44:540:44:56

That was a little too easy.

0:44:560:44:59

Come on, handsome.

0:45:120:45:14

'Back at the DLC, school photographs were underway.'

0:45:170:45:20

-Lower those hands.

-Where's that happy smile?

0:45:230:45:26

Want me to come and tickle you?

0:45:260:45:28

'One of the strangest aspects of autism

0:45:280:45:30

'is how unpredictably it can develop.

0:45:300:45:34

'I wondered how these children's lives would unfold.

0:45:340:45:37

'Whether they would make sudden gains and leave, like Nicky,

0:45:370:45:40

'or continue locked in their own worlds.'

0:45:400:45:44

Give it to me! I got it!

0:45:450:45:47

Yay!

0:45:470:45:49

'For those older students who do stay at the DLC,

0:45:510:45:56

'teachers do their best to prepare them for an independent existence.

0:45:560:45:59

'One school hallway is built to resemble a main street,

0:45:590:46:02

'with classrooms designed to look like shops and workplaces.

0:46:020:46:06

'Here, students get used to life in the outside world.'

0:46:060:46:10

-Can I sit next to you?

-Sure.

0:46:100:46:12

-What are you doing?

-I'm writing.

-What are you writing about?

0:46:120:46:16

Erm, there. That should do it.

0:46:180:46:22

"Add Sara Jane's purchases together

0:46:220:46:24

"and complete the cheque below for the total amount. Use today's date."

0:46:240:46:28

-So you had to put the date here. Did you write that?

-Yeah.

0:46:280:46:31

-So this is helpful, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:46:310:46:34

Because if you ever needed to write a cheque out in the real world,

0:46:340:46:37

-now you know how to do it.

-Yeah.

0:46:370:46:40

-Has he been making good progress?

-Absolutely.

0:46:400:46:42

You know, one of Bradley's good skills is being very thorough

0:46:420:46:45

and making sure he goes back and checks his work, staying organised.

0:46:450:46:49

There's a lot of things we focused on in the last couple of years.

0:46:490:46:52

-How did Bradley score on his cheque writing?

-He did very well.

0:46:520:46:55

-Very nice, Bradley.

-Well done.

0:46:550:46:58

-HE SIGHS

-Did you find it stressful?

0:46:580:47:01

-Yeah, I'm calm.

-HE SIGHS

0:47:010:47:04

-Are you OK?

-I'm fine.

0:47:040:47:06

-Hi, Brian. Do you remember me? I'm Louis.

-Hi, there.

-Louis.

0:47:110:47:16

Nice to see you.

0:47:160:47:19

-Are you, are you Joe?

-Yes.

-Louis, hi.

0:47:190:47:21

-It's nice to meet you.

-Nice to meet you.

0:47:210:47:23

-Brian, what are you doing?

-Yeah.

0:47:230:47:26

-Now, what are you doing right now?

-So-orting.

0:47:260:47:29

-S-sorting.

-Sorting.

0:47:290:47:32

At this point, Brian is sorting the different baked goods,

0:47:320:47:35

the pastries and things, by type into different trays,

0:47:350:47:38

with a view to maybe one day, you think, he could perhaps

0:47:380:47:42

-work in a bakery or in that kind of a workplace?

-Yeah.

0:47:420:47:47

The skills to work in something like that he definitely has.

0:47:470:47:49

He can definitely sort the different shapes, different colours,

0:47:490:47:53

different sizes.

0:47:530:47:55

-Brian, we're going to go shopping.

-Yeah.

0:47:550:47:58

Could you get me two potatoes, please?

0:48:000:48:03

And another one, please.

0:48:030:48:05

I'll just have one carrot, please.

0:48:070:48:10

And maybe one Danish.

0:48:100:48:11

-That is everything.

-Yeah.

0:48:130:48:15

-Did you enjoy that?

-Yeah.

-Was that fun?

-Fun.

-Good.

-Yeah.

0:48:150:48:19

Next year Brian will graduate, is that correct?

0:48:190:48:21

-He's graduating in June.

-In June?

-Yes.

-What will happen then?

0:48:210:48:25

Well, he's currently going to be in a workshop.

0:48:250:48:27

Whether it's stuffing envelopes or putting batteries

0:48:270:48:30

in a remote control, packaging goodie bags,

0:48:300:48:35

we are trying to work on those independent work skills

0:48:350:48:38

while they're here.

0:48:380:48:40

-Come here. Listen.

-Yes.

0:48:450:48:47

-What do we need to do in order to bake these cupcakes?

-Get a bowl.

0:48:470:48:52

'A little later, I joined some of Nicky's old friends

0:48:520:48:55

'in a cookery class.'

0:48:550:48:57

-Oh, man.

-That's OK, watch. We've got enough time.

0:48:570:49:00

-It's my fault.

-No, that's OK.

0:49:000:49:03

100% vegetable oil, of course -

0:49:030:49:06

fruity delicious.

0:49:060:49:08

-What's the capital of Vatican State?

-Vatican City.

0:49:100:49:14

-Somalia?

-Mogadishu.

0:49:140:49:17

-Kenya?

-Erm, Nairobi.

0:49:170:49:20

-Mm, that feels good. Tasty.

-Very nice.

0:49:250:49:30

-Bradley?

-Yeah?

0:49:300:49:32

-The cakes are delicious.

-I know. You're welcome.

0:49:320:49:35

'My time at the DLC was up.

0:49:350:49:37

'I'd been struck by the dedication of the staff, and their commitment

0:49:380:49:42

'to making changes that could be tiny or immense -

0:49:420:49:46

'and sometimes both at once.'

0:49:460:49:48

Before leaving the world of autism altogether,

0:49:550:49:58

I was making a few revisits.

0:49:580:50:01

Sing a song for Daddy.

0:50:020:50:04

MARCELO SINGS JINGLE BELLS

0:50:040:50:06

'First, the Vieiras.'

0:50:060:50:08

# Tee-tee-tee, tee-tee. #

0:50:080:50:12

Can you dance to it? Dance. Dance.

0:50:120:50:14

# Tee-tee-tee-tee-tee. #

0:50:140:50:16

Mommy, I want ice-cream.

0:50:160:50:19

Part of what I sense, maybe, is that you don't want the fact

0:50:200:50:25

that you've got two children with autism to define your existence

0:50:250:50:30

but, at the moment, it has become the defining fact of your existence.

0:50:300:50:34

It is, and it has been for a long time.

0:50:340:50:36

I'm starting to see that there's a light,

0:50:360:50:39

that it won't be what defines us as a family,

0:50:390:50:42

or defines us as individuals, eventually.

0:50:420:50:45

-So what do you hope for now?

-Silence!

0:50:450:50:49

SHE LAUGHS

0:50:490:50:51

You know, they always say, "God gives you what you can handle."

0:50:520:50:55

And I have to say I think that we are extraordinary people

0:50:550:50:58

but we were extraordinary people

0:50:580:51:01

before these children came into our lives.

0:51:010:51:04

Which is probably why I have such difficulty accepting it.

0:51:040:51:08

I just... some people, it transforms them

0:51:080:51:12

to being this ultra-caring kind of a person.

0:51:120:51:15

Whereas I think we have always been that kind of person - that's,

0:51:150:51:19

that's the difference I was trying to make.

0:51:190:51:23

-So you feel you didn't need to be transformed, in a sense.

-Yeah. Yeah.

0:51:230:51:28

Which is almost part of the reason why I get so angry because I, I...

0:51:280:51:33

I AM that loving, sweet person, compassionate person.

0:51:330:51:36

Right, Lucy?

0:51:360:51:37

-Wow. I like your alphabet.

-MARCELO RECITES ALPHABET

0:51:390:51:43

Marcelo always loved letters.

0:51:470:51:50

He knew the alphabet, he must've been 18 months old,

0:51:500:51:53

-he knew the whole alphabet.

-L...

0:51:530:51:56

-O!

-Very good!

-Good job!

-Yay!

0:51:590:52:04

Hi.

0:52:090:52:11

You're supposed to ignore the camera, Joe.

0:52:110:52:13

Barney is dinosaur.

0:52:130:52:17

-Barney is a dinosaur.

-Imagination.

0:52:170:52:21

'I was paying one last visit to Joey and his mother, Carole.

0:52:210:52:25

'Carole had once told me she'd prayed for a miracle for Joey.

0:52:250:52:28

'It being Sunday, we were attending church.'

0:52:280:52:31

Take away the sins of the world...

0:52:330:52:36

In the name of the Father and the Son...

0:52:390:52:41

# ..Clap your hands

0:52:440:52:46

# If you're happy and you know it clap your hands

0:52:460:52:50

# If you're happy and you know it Then your face will surely show it

0:52:500:52:54

# If you're happy and you know it clap your hands. #

0:52:540:52:58

'That Carole was hoping for some kind of cure for Joey

0:52:580:53:01

'seemed understandable, and yet what was strange

0:53:010:53:03

'was that Joey's personality was so bound up with his condition,

0:53:030:53:07

'it was hard to separate the two.

0:53:070:53:10

'His lovable qualities were intertwined

0:53:100:53:13

'with the challenges he presented.'

0:53:130:53:15

-Can you find Mickey Mouse?

-JOEY SHOUTS

0:53:160:53:19

INCOMPREHENSIBLE SPEECH

0:53:220:53:24

-You want to sit here?

-Sit here.

0:53:260:53:29

Sit here.

0:53:310:53:33

-Sit here.

-Who, me?

-Me.

0:53:330:53:37

-Sit here.

-Yeah.

-JOE GROANS

0:53:370:53:39

-OK.

-Sit here.

0:53:460:53:49

-Who, me?

-Who, me.

0:53:490:53:51

-Here?

-Here.

0:53:510:53:52

INCOMPREHENSIBLE SPEECH

0:53:540:53:57

-Draw a picture?

-The picture.

0:53:590:54:03

JOEY GROANS

0:54:030:54:05

-JOEY SCREAMS

-No, no, no, no.

0:54:230:54:26

Yeah. You can't get angry and hit walls.

0:54:260:54:31

-Go. Lie down.

-JOEY SCREAMS

0:54:320:54:35

Lie down.

0:54:400:54:42

'Since I'd last seen her, Carole had started a new technique

0:54:420:54:45

'for controlling Joey's tantrums by confining him to his room.'

0:54:450:54:48

-JOEY SCREAMS

-Down.

0:54:480:54:51

-Can I help, Carole?

-SCREAMING

0:54:510:54:54

Down. Down.

0:54:540:54:57

And when you're ready, you can come out.

0:54:590:55:01

JOEY SCREAMS

0:55:010:55:03

When you can calm down, you can come down for breakfast. OK? That's good.

0:55:030:55:08

-Good job. Calm down, breathe.

-SCREAMING

0:55:080:55:11

We'll just leave him and see what happens.

0:55:110:55:14

-SCREAMING

-Leave him.

0:55:140:55:16

If he breaks anything in there, we'll throw it out.

0:55:160:55:19

Scissors. Scissors.

0:55:230:55:26

-So you feel this new system could be working?

-Right.

0:55:260:55:31

The tantrums, although they're still intense, he seems to,

0:55:310:55:36

after 10 minutes,

0:55:360:55:38

come out of it and he comes downstairs and says he's sorry.

0:55:380:55:42

On our last visit, you were worried about

0:55:420:55:46

whether you'd be able to control Joey as he got older

0:55:460:55:49

if the aggressiveness continued or got worse.

0:55:490:55:51

-Right.

-Are you still concerned about that?

0:55:510:55:54

I'm still concerned about that.

0:55:540:55:56

If the tantrums got worse I would first try medicine.

0:55:560:56:00

If the medication does not work?

0:56:000:56:03

I don't want to think about that,

0:56:030:56:06

but what would happen is, in order for me to get help from the state,

0:56:060:56:10

I would probably have to call 911.

0:56:100:56:13

And then the state would step in. But I don't want that to happen.

0:56:140:56:18

If it really did not improve,

0:56:180:56:21

you would consider residential care?

0:56:210:56:24

Eventually I would have to because if I couldn't take care of him,

0:56:260:56:31

what am I going to do?

0:56:310:56:33

The sad thing is that's your only option, really.

0:56:340:56:38

That's the final outcome for all these children.

0:56:380:56:40

Wah!

0:56:400:56:42

-What do you want Mommy to do?

-Sock.

0:56:420:56:45

You want Mommy to take...

0:56:450:56:47

Take a picture.

0:56:470:56:49

-Wah!

-Beautiful picture.

0:56:490:56:52

-Can you tell if Joey likes me?

-I...

0:56:520:56:55

Joe, do you like Louis?

0:56:550:56:58

-Louis still here.

-Do you like him? Yes or no.

0:56:580:57:01

-Yes.

-Do you like him?

-Yes. Shake hands.

-Would he say that anyway?

0:57:010:57:06

-Say cheese.

-No, because I gave him two options and then I asked,

0:57:060:57:09

I said, "Joey, do you like Louis? Yes or no?"

0:57:090:57:14

-Now I have to ask again. Joey, do you like Louis?

-Louis, yes.

0:57:160:57:19

-And I didn't give him two options.

-Shake it, say cheese.

0:57:190:57:23

'I was leaving the world of autism with a fondness for the kids

0:57:290:57:32

'and a respect bordering on awe for the parents.'

0:57:320:57:36

-Moo!

-It's a cow.

0:57:380:57:40

-Cow. Moo.

-Moo.

0:57:400:57:42

'Raising a child on the severe end of the spectrum

0:57:420:57:46

'can entail decisions no-one should have to make.'

0:57:460:57:49

Moo-oo-oo!

0:57:490:57:51

'And yet these parents were, in different ways, continuing to find

0:57:510:57:54

'inner reserves of love and compassion.

0:57:540:57:57

'Performing a small miracle of their own in their ability to keep going.'

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