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My childhood ambition was to play the drum in the Salvation Army and work in a dry cleaner's. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
I've done neither of them. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
'I was a young lad when I first saw the Salvation Army band | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
'playing outside Woolies at Christmas.' | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
There you are, thank you, God bless! | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
'And now, 150 years after they were founded...' | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
Oh, here we go! | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
'..I want to discover who they really are and what they do.' | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
Vegetable soup. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:26 | |
'I'm going to work with the officers and the volunteers who have | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
'dedicated their lives to helping others.' | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
-That was fantastic. -Did you enjoy that? | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
Oh, it was wonderful. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
'But what does it take to be part of God's Army?' | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
Get your dogs in the bowl then, girl. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
Come on, I'll give them a swill. You're welcome. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
'I'll find out as I hit the road with them.' | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
If it hadn't have worked out for me, I could be in your position now. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
-'Here in Britain...' -You're welcome. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
Look at the size of him. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
'..and abroad...' Too much. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
'..I meet the people whose lives wouldn't quite be the same | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
'without them.' | 0:01:01 | 0:01:02 | |
I wasn't scared of dying, I was scared of living. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
There's only two options for yourself in that life. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
It's either, God forbid, you die or go to jail. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
CHEERING | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
You're all good. 'And if I make it through all that...' | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
-I don't look like a bus conductor, do I? -Not even slightly. -No? | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
'..I'll get to wear a special Salvation Army outfit | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
'and lead the band down London's Oxford Street.' | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
The reason I've chosen the Salvation Army is | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
because I think most people think the Salvation Army just stand | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
outside chemists' at Christmas rattling a tin | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
and banging their drum, which, of course, isn't the case. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
There's a lot more to them than that, and I wanted to get under | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
the skin, and that's why I wanted to do this series. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
We are a strange alliance, but somehow it works. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
To become part of the Salvation Army is no easy task. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
It takes godliness, humility, and most of all, the ability to | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
put other people's needs before your own. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
I've got my hands full. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:12 | |
Do I believe in God? Oh, dear. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
HE EXHALES | 0:02:20 | 0:02:21 | |
I don't know. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
Some people believe blindly. I can't, you see. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
You know, I have to know. So, I don't know. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
I really can't answer that question. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
I'd like to say I believed in God. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
Some days I do, some days I don't, although these days I think | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
if I went to confession, you'd probably need a team of priests working through | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
the night, with an exorcist thrown in there somewhere along the line. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
This is the William Booth College, the Salvation Army headquarters, and | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
it's where up to 100 cadets a year train to become officers. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:55 | |
Captain Joan Wire is one of 12 full-time teachers here, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
and she's been saddled with the unenviable task of teaching me | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
the ways of the Salvation Army. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
Poor woman. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
In the Salvation Army, becoming an officer is two years here, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
residential. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:10 | |
Then there's five years more after that before you are affirmed | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
as an officer, so it's actually a seven-year training altogether. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
-Hello! -Hello, Captain Jo. -Call me Jo. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
Hi, Jo, Paul O'Grady, nice to meet you. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
-Come on in. -Oh, thank you. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
Come through, come and have a cup of tea. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
Oh, I'd love one. SHE LAUGHS | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
I'm so excited that you're here, though, it's going to be good. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
Cheers, thank you. Say I was a complete neophyte | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
and knew nothing about the Salvation Army and I've just come | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
into you now and I've said, "So what, Jo, what do the Salvation Army do?" | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
One of our mottos is "Heart to God and hand to man", | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
and that's kind of, that kind of gives you the gist of who we are. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
So it's a faith-based Christian group who believe we've got | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
to roll up our sleeves if we're going to reach people. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
It's all well and good to kind of preach at people down like this, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
"You're a terrible person." But actually what people need | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
is for someone to get down to where they are. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
Our paths have crossed a lot in my lifetime, the Salvation Army. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
When I left school I worked for the social security, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
but we had a hostel nearby called 10 Norton Street. Long gone. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
It was a hostel for homeless men, and I ended up volunteering in there. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
When AIDS hit London, I'll never forget the Salvation Army, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
because in the Westminster Hospital, and this was a time | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
when they had yellow tape across doors and you were expected | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
to wear a mask as protection because they didn't know anything about it, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
and you frequently got nurses who wouldn't work on AIDS wards. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
They'd say, "No." And who was there? The Salvation Army. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
They really were amazing. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
Seriously. So I've a lot of respect for the organisation. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
We're an odd bunch, you do know that? | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
You do know that you're going to be spending time with some slightly weird people because... | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
Do you think I'm the full shilling? THEY LAUGH | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
Because we're... The things that we do, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:50 | |
they're not what people would expect us to do. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
I think God's got a sense of humour with me because I think, some | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
mornings, the Virgin Mary goes in and says, "What's up with you?" | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
He's lying on the bed, he says, "I'm fed up." And she says, "I know, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
"let's annoy Paul O'Grady." | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
I've got just three months to do my training with Jo. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
I only hope I've got what it takes. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
The Salvation Army were founded way back in 1865 by Methodist | 0:05:14 | 0:05:19 | |
preacher William Booth in response to the terrible | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
poverty that he saw around him. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
He created a Christian charity organised like an army, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
with military ranks, uniformed, marching in a band. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
From these humble beginnings, the Salvation Army now operates | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
in 127 countries across the world, working with governments, charitable | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
organisations and communities, and helping people in need. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
So it's no pressure, then! | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
Now, it's no secret that I want to play with the Sally Army band, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
so before I start training for real, Jo has the perfect incentive. | 0:05:55 | 0:06:00 | |
I thought it might be nice | 0:06:00 | 0:06:01 | |
if you could see a band that you could guest with. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
-So is this why I've been asked to bring my bugle? -Yeah, this is the only church on Oxford Street, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
and they happen to have a rather marvellous band. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
-Really? -I thought you could maybe come visit, see if you like them, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
-play a few instruments. -So they're going to let me loose with the band? | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
-Let's go and see what they say. -Come on, then, Jo. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
MUSIC: Give Me Joy In My Heart | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
The Salvation Army have more than 2,500 bands | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
and choirs around the world, including | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
the Regent Hall Band, who march down Oxford Street every Sunday. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
Their musical groups have recorded countless CDs, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
and they've even had a Eurovision song entry. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
# When the times are getting rough... # | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
I won't mention how they scored, but let's just say, I hope I do better. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:06:54 | 0:06:55 | |
And this is them. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:07:04 | 0:07:05 | |
They're just brilliant. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:10 | |
I can't believe this. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
THEY CHEER | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
-Do you want to give it a go? -I wouldn't mind, yeah. -Come on, then. -Are you ready for this? | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
Why are they all shaking their heads like that? | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
So, Steve's the bandmaster. Steve, this is Paul. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
-Steve! -Pleased to meet you. -Pleasure to meet you. That was fantastic. -You enjoy that? | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
-Oh, it was wonderful. -Now, that looks interesting. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
-You won't say that, Steve, when you've heard me. -I want to hear it. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
-Are you ready? -Yeah, absolutely. -Are you ready, guys? -Don't look at me because I'll get embarrassed. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
HE PLAYS REVEILLE | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
-Fantastic. -He's got potential, he's definitely got potential. -Absolutely. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
Have you ever played anything else, any musical instrument? | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
-My dad used to be a drummer in an Irish band. -Oh, really? | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
Yeah, and that's the instrument I'm sort of drawn to, the drums, I'll be honest with you. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
Look at the size of this. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
-Do you wear this and walk down the street? -Absolutely. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
I'd get about 200 yards | 0:08:09 | 0:08:10 | |
and then you'd have to call an ambulance. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
I'm like a kid here in Hamleys. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
-Well, actually, it's not too bad. -Just have to lean back. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
I am... Like this. I'm having a baby. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
Do you want to have a go at it? | 0:08:25 | 0:08:26 | |
There we go. It's fabulous. I've always wanted to do this, you know. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
When I was a kid and I used to watch the Salvation Army band, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
I was green with envy, green, at the drummer. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
And my mum would say, "Go and ask him, can you have a go?" | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
-Marvellous. -And is that all you do? -That's all you do. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
On the march, obviously it's the drum that's the leader. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
-Do you want to show? -A double tap, bang, bang? | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
Quicker. Bang, bang, quicker. Yeah. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
One, two, three, four, five. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
THEY START PLAYING | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
Not yet. No! You're too early. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
I've got a feeling I'm going to get a trombone in the back of my head. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
-One, two. One, two. -Yeah. -One, two, three. No, one, two. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:19 | |
-Yeah. -One, two. One, two, three, four, five. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
That's it. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
'Ah, I've got it!' | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
It's fantastic, I can't tell you. Absolutely fabulous. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
-He's laughing at me. -No, no, no. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:09:40 | 0:09:41 | |
-Did you keep up with that? -Yeah, just about. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
You know what'll happen? We'll go down Oxford Street, they'll turn down Regent Street to | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
get away from me. And I'll be on my own going,... | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
I'm going to come back and have rehearsals with the band properly, because I'm determined to | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
sail down Oxford Street, leading that band, giving that drum what-for. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
I think I'd be better off with a triangle, don't you? | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
I thoroughly enjoyed that, I'm high as a kite now. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
That was better than sex. No, no, take that out. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
PAUL LAUGHS | 0:10:21 | 0:10:22 | |
I keep forgetting where I am. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
It's a lovely sunny morning, and it's the first day of my training. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
Jo is starting me off with something easy but vital to their work. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
Apparently, making the perfect cup of tea is their secret weapon. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:39 | |
Welcome to the Salvation Army tea van. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
It's very smart, look at it. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
We've been doing this for 150 years. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
We will just turn up with our wagon wherever we're needed | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
and we'll make tea, but there's more to it than that. So say it was during the war, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
when they saw the Sally Army rock up in their canteen, they knew | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
there was a bit of reality, there was a bit of normality. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
# There's nothing like an army cup of tea... # | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
The Sally Army's tea traditions go right back to its beginnings. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
In 1917, mobile units like this started to spring up. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
They supported British troops during both world wars. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
They even produced their own brand, Triumph. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
Nowadays when there's an emergency, the Salvation Army gets called | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
out, so things like the 7/7 bombing in London, we got called out to go | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
and support the emergency services, but it's not just about the tea. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:28 | |
It's about starting a conversation with somebody | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
and saying, "What happened, are you OK, what do you want to talk about?" | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
How many cups of tea have the Salvation Army made over the years? | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
We make a quarter of a million cups of tea a week. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
That's a lot of tea. How many teabags? | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
-They're quite strong, these ones. -So, four? -Yeah, that'll do, yeah. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
Because they're in shock, they need a good strong cup of tea. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
Whilst you've been making their cup of tea, that's when you'd be | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
having a conversation with somebody, starting your journey with them. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
So I'll give that a stir. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:56 | |
-Now, milk first, or milk last? -It's last, isn't it? | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
Jo has set up a bit of role play to see if I have the right patter. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:06 | |
There's been a fire in a factory. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
-Right. -And the fire brigade have put it out, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
-everybody's safe, but they're exhausted. -And they're in shock. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
They are, they've seen some hair-raising things | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
and they want someone to give them a cup of tea. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
Now, look at this brave fire officer here. How are you doing, kid? | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
Look at your face, you're covered in muck. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
-I bet you've been breathing in smoke. -I have, terrible. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
-And what you badly need is a nice strong cup of tea, isn't it? -I would. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
-Would you like a biscuit with that? -Yes, please. -I bet you would. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
-Bet your blood sugar's in your boots after all that. -Thank you very much. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
You get that down your neck, and we're here for you any time, do you hear? | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
-Thank you very much. -OK. -Thank you. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
How was that, my first client? | 0:12:40 | 0:12:41 | |
He needed somebody just to show him some kindness | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
and offer some comfort, and you did that. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
-Black tea, no milk, no sugar? -No milk, no sugar. -You're easy. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
If you want to lie down, we've got plenty of space here. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
You can get your head down for half an hour. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
-So, have you had a bad time? -It's been a long day. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
-If you want anyone to talk to, we're always here. -Thank you. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
-So come over. -You got it. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
All their ears are singed. Get a biscuit, you're welcome. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
-Take a biscuit. -Thank you. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
I think we can say you've well and truly passed this test, Paul. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
-Really? -Aye. -Oh, well, thank you very much, I've enjoyed myself. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
Right, we're shutting the shop now for ten minutes, if you don't mind. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
We're on our break, we've been working for 24 hours. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
Even the Salvation Army has to have an hour off. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
Oh, preach it, brother! | 0:13:21 | 0:13:22 | |
PAUL LAUGHS | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
Hallelujah, sister! Let's get these shutters down. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
How do you do it? | 0:13:29 | 0:13:30 | |
'So far, so good.' | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
For a real taste of what they do on the front line, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
Jo is sending me to Bournemouth, where the Salvation Army | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
regularly feed and offer care to the town's homeless population. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:45 | |
To prepare for this, I'm joining | 0:13:45 | 0:13:46 | |
my first cadet class, where I'll be doing more than serving tea. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:51 | |
Can I come in? Oh, are you busy? | 0:13:51 | 0:13:52 | |
No, come in, Paul. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
You told me you were willing to roll up your sleeves | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
-and see what we really do. -Yeah. -We're going to do some foot washing. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
-Do you want to... -Yeah. Is this all for practical reasons? | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
Practical, but it's also because it's what Jesus did. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
He washed all his disciples' feet | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
and he said, "This is to show you that you're actually really | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
"important to me, that I can go really low, I can become a servant | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
"in order to teach you something really important." So that's why | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
we teach it in the Salvation Army, to kind of... | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
-Is this like an exercise to humble you as well? -I don't want to humble you, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
but I want you to maybe think about, are you willing to show humility? | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
That's a different thing, because I can't humble you. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
You're looking at somebody who's washed an elephant's bum! | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
Seriously, a baby elephant called Incarna of three months, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
-so your nice, clean feet are not... -I don't know, I've been on my feet all day. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
When I was in social services, I was washing all parts of anatomy. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
'Officers and volunteers regularly wash the feet of the homeless | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
'and elderly across the country. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
'It seems like a strange ritual to me, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
'but it's something that lots of cadets have to do.' | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
You guys, are you all right? You feel quite happy about handling feet? | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
Are you all trainee Salvation Army officers, then? | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
-I am. -Are you? -Yeah. -Lizzie, how long have you now been training? | 0:14:59 | 0:15:04 | |
About six weeks. Six or seven weeks, yeah. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
And what was it that made you decide to join the Salvation Army? | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
Did you have a calling? | 0:15:09 | 0:15:10 | |
Did you wake up one morning and a voice said, "Elizabeth, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
"you get yourself up to Denmark Hill!" | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
That would be my mum, because only Mum calls me Elizabeth, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
but at a young persons' event, actually, that I was leading, | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
I...I remember standing there and feeling an incredible | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
sense of purpose, an incredible sense of peace, and knowing | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
that unless I came here and unless I did this, I wouldn't ever be | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
truly at peace and I wouldn't ever be in the centre of God's will. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
It's an amazing thing, and a privilege. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
-Yeah, but get your dogs in the bowl, girl. -Are you ready? -Come on, I'll give them a swill. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
-I'm not really sure if my feet are all that nice and... -Well, I've seen worse. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
Now, if I had my nail kit with me, I'd do your nails as well, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
I really would. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:49 | |
-And I'd get in that heel for you and get rid of that hard skin. -What's wrong with my heel? | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:15:53 | 0:15:54 | |
Hard skin?! I've never seen anything quite like it. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
I'm surprised it hasn't come out and slapped me, it's that hard. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:16:00 | 0:16:01 | |
Just you wait until it's your turn. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
Isn't that such an important thing, you know, physical contact? | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
Just... Especially for somebody who's on the streets on their own, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
who nobody goes near, nobody even speaks to or looks at, or | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
if they do, it's to chuck, like, 20p at them or something. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
But for somebody to actually, like, grab their foot and chat away, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
probably makes them feel very human, when they felt inhuman for so long. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
-They can't go anywhere when their feet are wet. -No, you're not going anywhere. I've got your shoes. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:16:28 | 0:16:29 | |
You're not getting them back, and you're not getting your socks back either. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
Until I've washed these feet and you've had a meal down you, my girl. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
There's a massive difference between training and reality, because we're in a safe environment here. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
There's a lot of laughter, a lot of interaction. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
When you're doing it on the ground, you're dealing with | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
vulnerable people, and anything could go wrong, so although it's | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
very safe in training, out on the field, anything could happen. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
I'm tasked with putting my new-found skills to the test straight | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
away by joining the Salvation Army team down in Bournemouth, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
but am I ready to give comfort to the homeless and wash tired feet? | 0:17:03 | 0:17:08 | |
On an average night, there are 4,500 people | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
sleeping rough in the UK, and former painter and decorator | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
Graham is just one of many without a place to call home. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
Basically, I sleep over there under the arches. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
It's dry, it's tolerable. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
You can tolerate it, but some mornings, obviously, it's horrible. You still get wet. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
I ended up homeless through the credit crunch. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
After the credit crunch, that was it. And I went | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
so down, you wouldn't believe. Mentally, physically, everything. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
I just gave up. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:42 | |
I've got a floor mat. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:48 | |
I use my rucksack as a pillow. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
Climb into my sleeping bag and hopefully go to sleep. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
-HE LAUGHS -It doesn't always work that way, you know what I mean? | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
Life's never simple, you know what I mean? | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
I've been sleeping in temperatures below minus seven, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
minus 12, minus 15, and that is horrendous, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
really, really horrendous. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:08 | |
The worst thing for me is not being able to toilet properly, | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
wash and bath properly and sometimes eat properly. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
If you have not got something warm or hot inside you, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
you might as well forget it, because you do need that, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
especially that. Because you're warming the insides of you up, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
you're warming yourself from the inside outwards, | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
so it's easier to get to sleep and it's easier to stay asleep. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
Well, at least Graham knows he'll get a hot meal tonight. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
-Do you want to cut them so that they can see? -Yeah. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
-Please. Thanks, Rosemary. -Courtesy, that is, of the local service, | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
run by 72-year-old Mary. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
She's been doing this for over 20 years. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
Twice a week, Mary provides the food, whilst former nurse Rosemary | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
washes their feet. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:56 | |
-Hello, ladies! -Hello! -Nice to meet you. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
I tell you what, the smell is gorgeous in here. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
-Don't be silly. -Whatever that... What is it you're cooking? | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
It's chicken and vegetable soup. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
Oh, it smells lovely, and of course, I suppose, all the homeless that | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
you feed, have they all got to know you? | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
Well, we get the same people back. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
-We get called "darling" and all sorts. -Oh, do you? | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
For doing what I do with their feet, doing their feet and all that, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
-some of the stories that they will tell me... -I bet they will. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
..while I'm...and they open up, would make your hair curl. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
What state are their feet in, then? | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
-Horrendous. I mean... -That's very brave of you, you know, to do that. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
Well, I've been doing it 22 years. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
Oh, my God! Look at that. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
Well, he wouldn't go to the hospitals because, for one thing, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
the smell of those leg ulcers. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
-How did he get these? -From injecting. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
-From injecting his leg? -He'd been injecting, yeah, yeah. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
Look at this. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:50 | |
I mean, I'm in the Salvation Army, I've done a lot of things, but I don't think I could do that. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
-It's... -'And I have to agree. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
'Seeing these photos is a far cry from Captain Jo in the training room, | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
'and I'm starting to wonder whether I'm ready to wash feet like these.' | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
-You're making them feel like human beings again. -Yeah. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
You know, because nobody cares for them, do they? | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
And here's you in this close contact, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
doing... It's remarkable what you're doing. It really is. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
We're due out on the streets in an hour | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
and there's still food to prepare. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
On the menu tonight, it's soup and bangers and mash. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
It's better than the gym, this. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
I was going to say, you're going to have muscles on you like Popeye. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
You should have a machine. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
OK, if anyone would like to donate a potato mashing machine, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
we'd be very grateful. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:33 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
That looks good to me, thank you, dear. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
You're like an efficient machine, you lot in here. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
-You've got it all sorted. Lovely. -Lid. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
'We pack up 60 meals | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
'and take the mobile unit to the car park at the local church.' | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
PAUL LAUGHS | 0:20:54 | 0:20:55 | |
I like your hat. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
-It's Paul. -Hiya, you all right? | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
-Vegetable soup. Hello, how are you? There you go. -Cheers, Paul. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
-You're welcome. -Nice one. -You're welcome. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
-Can you just put those in for me, Paul? -Will do, Rose, yeah. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
Ah, Paul O'Grady, I always watch your show when I'm in jail. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
My picture's up in the laundry in Rampton. Seriously. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
I got a letter from someone in Rampton saying, "Can I have your photo?" | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
Here you are, kid, get that down you. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
There's a great atmosphere here, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
especially now people have a good meal inside them. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
So far, I've stuck to the comfort of the food van, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
but Rosemary's already been out washing feet, and her next | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
customer is Graham, enjoying a break from the cold of Bournemouth Pier. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
-Can I come in, Rosemary? -Yes, you can. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
How are you doing, Graham? Isn't it great when you're getting your feet done? | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
You feel better, don't you, when you've had your feet done? | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
Because I'm always... I soak mine once a week when I'm watching the telly. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
How do you manage? | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
I bet they are. Yeah. Where do you go in the winter? What do you do? | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
You're joking! What, you just went in? | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
Why didn't you move in? | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:22:36 | 0:22:37 | |
You all right, then, Graham? You OK? | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
See you next week, then. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
Ah, Graham, it's lovely to meet you. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:44 | |
-And I'll see you later. -Don't trip over your shoelaces. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
-No, tie them. Who's next? -You all right? | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
-I've always wanted to meet Paul. -Hi, how are you doing? | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
-I wanted to see what you look like in real life. -Well, there you go. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
Same as I look like on the telly, destroyed. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
You going to have your feet done? Are you having problems? | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
-I've got loads of problems with my feet. -You have. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
'Moroccan-born Yousuf has been homeless for 13 years | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
'after battling drug addiction. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
'This is my chance to get stuck in, but Rosemary's doing such | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
'a great job, I'll leave it to the experts. And it seems to me | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
'that listening and having a chat is just as important.' | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
-How are those nails doing? -I'm a bit of a wolf! | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
No, it's the hot weather with me. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
I wake up and I've got nails on me like Fu Manchu. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
YOUSUF LAUGHS | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
'Rosemary has been washing Yousuf's feet for well over a decade, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
'and in that time, they've both seen the brutal reality of homelessness.' | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
A person died right over there, right at that doorstep there, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
froze to death. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
I can't get over how somebody died there in that doorway. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
Yeah, they did. It was a very young man. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
And that was with hypothermia? That was the cold? | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
-Yeah. -It's shocking, that, isn't it? | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
It was totally devastating. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
Do you know what I always say | 0:23:53 | 0:23:54 | |
when I talk to homeless guys and homeless women? | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
I always say, "I could be in that position." | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
I came down from Birkenhead, no money, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
got off the coach at Victoria Coach Station. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
I was lucky I had a mate who had a flat and that's how I started | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
and got myself a bit of a job | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
but, if it hadn't have worked out for me, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
I could be in your position now. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:12 | |
I didn't do any feet washing | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
but it was nice to be able to sit and chat to them. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
Don't forget us. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
I don't, believe you me. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
I don't forget you. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
They're all so open, you know, when you talk to them. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
-There you go, sir. -Thank you very much. -You're very welcome. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
It was good. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
I feel like I've done... | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
I've done something worthwhile. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
It's so important to communicate with them | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
because that's what makes them feel like a normal person. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
It's a cold winter's night in Bournemouth | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
but Mary's used to it after all these years. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
You made them feel, tonight, important. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
You've given them a sense of worth. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
You can't buy that. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:55 | |
No, it's about talking to people, isn't it? | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
It's really working together. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
Just doing the best you can and showing them someone cares. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
What do you think the solution is? | 0:25:04 | 0:25:05 | |
I really don't know but, I mean, I think as long as we love them, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
if we show them in a practical way we really care about them... | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
We have no accommodation to offer them, really. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
The problem's too vast. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:17 | |
I just haven't got the answer but I really believe | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
that, if Jesus was here, he'd be looking out for them. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
He'd be handy because he'd be able to turn out loaves and fishes, | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
you know, by the score. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
You wouldn't have to worry, would you, really? | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
Well, I might not be able to perform miracles on such a scale | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
but I do have a big bag of chocolate. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
-Here you are. -Thank you very much. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:39 | |
There's a Snickers there. Get that down you. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
Do you want a Mars bar? | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
Here, I've got some for the dog. Come here. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
Look what I've got for you. I've got you a dog treat. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
Look at that. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
What are you having, Graham? | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
Do you want a Double Decker? | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
Do you want a Mars bar and all? | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
I don't know whether I'm meant to give out two. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
-But I'm doling out sweets here. -I'm hiding them, then! | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
Well, it'll do you for later. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
-Hey! -I love you to bits. -You're welcome. No, you're welcome. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
You're the best man in the world. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:07 | |
Oh, get on, I'm not! | 0:26:07 | 0:26:08 | |
I'm not. I'm rotten to the core, take no notice. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
It's given me a lot to think about. It really has. Food for thought. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
When you hear their stories... | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
Any of us could end up in this situation. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
It's very sobering. It really is. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
And I worry now what's going to happen to them tonight | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
because it's a cold night. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:31 | |
They've had a meal and they've had the sweets and a chat | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
but what's going to happen now? They're just so vulnerable. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
You know, the streets are not a place to be. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
It's been a tough introduction to Salvation Army life, | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
a real eye-opener. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
I'm back at HQ to talk to my mentor, Jo. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
I think it's important that Paul learns | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
he's not out there on his own. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:56 | |
There may be things he will face that we do that might shock him | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
and he needs to know that he has someone he can talk to about that. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
-Captain Jo. -Hello! Come on in. How are you doing? | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
"I talk too much. Be still." I should have that on my front door. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
-Come on in. Have a seat. -Nice to see you. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
I just wanted to see how you were doing | 0:27:11 | 0:27:12 | |
and have a catch-up and see how things are going. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
You can't help but let it affect you, put it that way. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
When it actually came to doing the foot washing, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
-did that happen or...? -No. Some of the feet... Whoo. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
It takes a lot of guts to wash a foot so I offered other help. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
I sat and spent a lot of time with them. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
You know, they wanted the wisecracks and the comedy | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
-and all this and all that business. -That was a good choice. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
Sometimes, you have to make choices like that. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
-Am I the right person to do this? -That's what they wanted, you see? | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
I think the way that you've handled the people that you've met, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
I have to commend you for that, so thank you for what you're doing. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
Well, I'm a yacker, me. I guess you probably gathered. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
-You can't take a compliment, you. -No, I can't. No. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
Just say, "Thanks, Jo. I appreciate it." | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
No, I can't take compliments. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
If I ever thought that this was going to be easy, | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
I'm already learning that I couldn't be more wrong. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
-Ah, Paul O'Grady! -How are you doing? | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
In Bournemouth, I met people | 0:28:02 | 0:28:03 | |
who showed a dedication that blew me away. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
And, when the next challenge comes along, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
I'm going to be ready for it. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
Next time, I hit the streets of London. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
I'm the pin-up on page two. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
I'm challenged with getting some troubled teens back on their feet. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
There's only two options for yourself in that life. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
God forbid, you die or go to jail. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
'And I leave the brass band behind | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
'to record some very different Sally Army rhymes.' | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
Is that all right? | 0:28:32 | 0:28:33 |