Episode 6 Paul O'Grady: The Sally Army and Me


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The Salvation Army used to have an effect on me when I was a kid

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and I'd look at the drum with envy and think,

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"I would kill if I could just have a go on the drum."

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That's what I wanted to do.

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At many times throughout my life, our paths have crossed.

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There you are.

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So, for the last three months,

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on their 150th anniversary year,

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I've been working with their officers and volunteers...

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Vegetable soup.

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-Did you enjoy that?

-Fantastic. It was wonderful.

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'..on my very own training course.'

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Do you know, you're putting off old age with all this.

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'I've travelled up and down the country...'

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If it hadn't have worked out for me, I could be in your position now.

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-Oh, thank you.

-You're welcome.

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Look at his size of him.

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'..and I've gone overseas.'

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Too much.

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'Tonight, I take on my final challenge,

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'perhaps the hardest one of all.'

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He massaged my heart in his hands

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-and they were saying prayers.

-Prayed.

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Oh, God.

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'And I've faced some tough questions from my mentor.'

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Whether I've been saved or not.

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I don't know whether I've fallen, to tell you the truth.

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'Before I get to fulfil my childhood ambition

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'of donning a uniform and leading the Sally Army band.'

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-Here we go.

-It's fabulous.

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I'm coming to the end of my Sally Army training course,

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guided by my mentor, Captain Jo.

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To be honest, at first, I think Paul found it really surprising

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how difficult the job is of a Salvation Army officer

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and those who work with us,

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but he really quickly proved he was more than capable of giving it a go

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and I'm really impressed with him.

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It's been extraordinary.

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I now know far more about what they do and who they help.

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Today, I'm setting Paul his final challenge and I'm really hoping

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that all the things we've learnt over the last few months

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will have helped to prepare him for this.

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It's where we feel some of our most important work is done.

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I'll be going with him to a hospice for the terminally ill where

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we'll be spending time with people who are literally facing death.

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It's one of the most difficult things we do in the Salvation Army

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and it's a huge privilege to spend time with people in their last days.

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I'm not scared of dying, what worries me is about the way I die.

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You know, I'd hate to sort of lose my independence

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and be reliant on people.

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When I had my heart attack, I died in the ambulance for three minutes

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and they brought me back.

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And everyone says to me, "Did you see a white light?"

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No, I didn't see anything like that.

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All I saw was an ambulance driver's fist down my throat

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shoving fizzy aspirins into me.

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St Christopher's is one of over 200 hospices in the UK.

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It's funded by donations and provides palliative care,

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nursing and family support.

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Around 800 people with incurable illnesses come here every year

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and they are cared for in their final days by dedicated staff.

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Jo's right, this is by far my hardest challenge.

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This is where we do a really key part of our training

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and I wanted to introduce you to some people that help us learn

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how to travel with people in their last days.

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-OK.

-We're going to spend some time with some really amazing people

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and learn some really important lessons today, I think.

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All right then.

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-Hello.

-Hello, Paul. Good to meet you.

-Nice to meet you.

-Andrew.

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'Helping me through this training is Reverend Andrew Goodhead.

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'He has helped hundreds of cadets do this.'

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How do you prepare for death?

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Part of it is just having people who are willing to be with you

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and, actually, when you get to that point of wanting to say,

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"I need to talk now," there's somebody willing to listen.

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Not to shut the conversation down,

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but is just willing to say, "Tell me how you feel. What's going on?"

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People that you're going to meet today are going to be really,

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really honest with you and very, very open.

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-I suppose that happens, though, as death's drawing closer.

-Yeah.

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-There's no time.

-There is no time.

-To play games.

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'The first step for me is to meet some of the people on the wards,

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'those who don't have a lot of time left.'

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Patients are with us probably on average 11 days.

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Although some stay for longer than that.

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So we're just going to meet Edward.

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-Hello!

-Hello!

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Hiya. How are you doing?

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-Not so bad, mate.

-Can I sit on your bed? Do you mind?

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Let me move around a bit.

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I see you've got a full house here.

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-Are they looking after you here, then?

-Very good.

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-Yeah?

-Very, very nice.

-And how are you doing yourself?

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-How are you feeling?

-I'm doing all right.

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I mean, unfortunately I was in the building trade

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and I got asbestos.

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-Oh, no.

-Mesothelioma.

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Got short of breath one day and they said, "You all right?"

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-I said, "No, I don't know," because I was a fit guy.

-Yeah.

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And then it got worse.

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They found my lung completely full with fluid.

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Did it shock you when you found out? It must have.

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-It was just out of the blue.

-Good God.

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It could lay dormant in you for 35 years.

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And this is because of asbestos.

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And you're pain-free now at the moment?

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-Well, touch wood.

-That's good.

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-It's early days, yet.

-Yeah.

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These are powerful things, aren't they, these pain blocks?

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Dear me, they sent me out the window!

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THEY LAUGH

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I might have one myself while I'm here!

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When the going gets tough, I always think that's what bails you out,

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sense of humour and a pain blocker.

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THEY LAUGH

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But it's great to meet you, it's really is,

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and, listen, I wish you all the luck in the world, do you hear?

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Thank you very much indeed.

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And your lovely family, as well. I'll see you again.

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-You take it easy, yeah? Look after yourself, mate.

-Thanks, guys.

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Humour, I always found, is the best medicine.

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It's true, you know, isn't it?

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We'll go off to City Ward

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and I think that's where we'll meet Michael.

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-Michael O'Grady.

-Michael O'Grady. Yes, your namesake.

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-He might be a relation.

-Well.

-You never know.

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-Hiya.

-Hello. This is Paul.

-Mr O'Grady.

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How are you doing? I'm a Michael O'Grady myself.

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-Yeah?

-Yeah, Paul James Michael.

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-We might be related.

-Somewhere down the line.

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You're in the will!

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So where is your family from, then, the O'Gradys?

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Oh, were they Cork? All ours were Galway.

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It's nice to meet a fellow O'Grady.

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We're few and far between, you know! LAUGHTER

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So what brought you into us, Michael?

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Was it some symptoms you had or pain?

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Yeah. And you've had your birthday here, obviously.

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Have you had your birthday?

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-Oh, is it? Saturday? Are you having a do in here?

-Yeah.

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-Yeah, I should think so and all!

-How many years?

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49 years.

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Well, I hope you have a great wedding anniversary

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and that the party that rocks the building.

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-You have to have a good 'un!

-Yeah!

-Yeah. Yeah. No, have a good 'un.

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THEY LAUGH

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That's what he's asked for. Well, when the inevitable happens.

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That all of the money is donated to St Christopher's.

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-Oh, wow.

-Oh, that's great.

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Because of everything that they've done,

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he doesn't want flowers or nothing.

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-He wants it all to go here.

-Incredibly generous.

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-Yes, it is.

-It is. You're incredibly brave and all, I have to say.

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Oh, but look, it's great to meet you. It really is.

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Yeah.

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But you look after yourself. Do you hear? Yeah, will do, kiddo.

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-Listen, it's nice to meet you.

-Thank you.

-Take it easy.

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Tonight.

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Can I just take a picture of you?

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Course you can! Come on, we'll have a photo.

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We've told quite a lot of people over the years

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that you're Dad's brother,

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So I don't know how we're going to explain this!

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-The kids all think, yeah!

-When they ask, here's the proof!

-Yeah.

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"See, here they are together, now what more proof do you want?"

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-Great, thanks a lot.

-You're welcome.

-Brilliant.

-Look after yourself.

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Keep your strength up. I'll see you, take it easy, OK, Michael?

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-Take care.

-Bye-bye!

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-They're so brave, you know?

-Yeah, when you think about

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what they're facing, you wonder if we would be.

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-I know.

-I hope we would, actually.

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-Facing uncertainty, that's what it is.

-Yeah.

-It's not death, for me.

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-No, it's living with the uncertainty.

-Yeah, that's it.

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'It's not just those dying that it's hard for,

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'it's also the people around them.

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'I know what it's like to be a carer. I've been there.'

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The carers take the weight of the world on their shoulders.

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You forget about yourself, you're not important any more.

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The person you're caring for is who,

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you know, you give all your attention to.

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This is Kay, she's been looking after her husband Len

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for six years, ever since his heart was damaged during

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an emergency operation when they were on holiday in Northern Cyprus.

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Now, tell me, Kay, how're you coping?

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-We're coping.

-Yeah.

-Each day is a blessing.

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The carer's often neglected, you know.

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-You've got to look after yourself.

-I know.

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And you've got to stop worrying.

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-I know that's impossible...

-That is!

-It's impossible.

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It's easy for me to say this, I know, but you have to give

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yourself a bit of respite from it and give yourself time.

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So how is he coping?

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He has dark moments,

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because he was very active and the doctor said, you know,

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if you need to do something, you do it now, don't wait till tomorrow.

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Yeah. Listen, has he got anything he wants to do?

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Yes.

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For one final time, he would love to feel the sand between his toes.

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-You know?

-PAUL SIGHS

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-What, a beach?

-Yes.

-Can he travel to a beach?

-No.

-No.

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Has he got a good sense of humour?

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Oh, a brilliant sense of humour, yes.

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-You know I'm playing Fairy Godfather in panto?

-Yes?

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THEY LAUGH

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Well, I might have my wand with me.

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'There's got to be something I can do here.'

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The hospice runs a weekly art class, both for patients and carers.

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It gives them a chance to share what they're going through.

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Hello. ALL: Hello! You're very quiet in here, it's like school!

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LAUGHTER

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'Kay's invited me to join her and Len today.'

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Thank you very much.

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It's like school! Do you find this helps you deal with what's

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-going on in your life at the moment?

-This is great.

-Yeah?

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This is the best thing.

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The best thing that's ever happened to us, really.

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-Do you all agree there? Do you think this is wonderful?

-Yeah.

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When you're at home, you don't want to keep on talking about...

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Like, you're ill and...

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-Do you feel guilty for that, you know?

-Yeah.

-Yes.

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Well, you shouldn't, you know. You really shouldn't.

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-The hardest part is talking about death.

-Yeah.

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My husband, we've been married for 34 years.

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He doesn't want to talk about death.

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When you're at home, you hold it back.

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You're all dealing with a common enemy, aren't you?

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-You know, you're all living and fighting it.

-Yes.

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So you've all got a common bond there you can talk about.

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-And that must be such a relief?

-Yeah, definitely.

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'It's obvious that this class is a kind of release for them all.'

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-So this takes your mind off everything?

-Yes.

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-Mine all started from having a stent fitted.

-Oh, tell me about stents!

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So go on, tell me. You had a stent fitted?

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Yeah, and it caught the artery,

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-which caused the bleed.

-PAUL GASPS

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And he had 72 hours to live.

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-So it was a tear putting the stint in?

-Yeah.

-Mmm.

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Because I've got six stents. I don't think people realise about stents.

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You say, "Oh, I'm having a stent fitted!" you know,

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-like as if I'm going for new shoes.

-Mmm.

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I've only got half a heart and only 30% of that is working.

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-They had to do a double bypass thing.

-You had a bypass?

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Did they do a bypass?

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They had to, because it was, he either dies,

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or we operate and he dies.

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It was no option, really.

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And when they did the bypass,

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he massaged my heart in his hands and they were saying prayers.

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Oh, God.

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-I mean, that's a story of horrors, isn't it?

-Yes.

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So they can't do no more, that's it.

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-I can't go for a transplant or anything.

-God.

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Thanks to her, I'm still here.

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-She's done a good job.

-She has, yeah.

-PAUL CHUCKLES

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But this is a terrible strain on you?

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Yeah.

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I went to bed and had a heart attack!

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-You know, it's the last thing you expect.

-Yeah.

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And then like a fool, lay there and thought,

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"Oh, well, I won't bother anybody. THEY LAUGH

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Last time I went to my cardiologist, this'll get you going,

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he said, "You haven't got a pulse."

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LAUGHTER

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But, look, thanks so much for talking to me.

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It's really lovely meeting you all, you know.

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I'm going to say a word now. You're inspirational.

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You know, the carers as well,

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just the way you're dealing with everything, you're so brave

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and so stoic and if I had a hat on, I'd take it off to you. Seriously.

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-And I wish you all the very, very best in the world.

-Thank you.

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-No, I do. Seriously.

-Right back at you as well.

-Yeah.

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APPLAUSE

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I thought they were really brave, the way they're dealing with it,

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because how do you talk about your own death? You know?

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How do you talk about dying, how'd you face dying?

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But before I leave, I want to do something for Len.

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-I've got something for you!

-Oh.

-It's called Playa Del Peckham.

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Oh, right! Excellent!

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'Len can't travel, so the seaside wasn't possible.

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'But I wanted him to be able to feel sand

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'between his toes for one last time.'

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# We're going to Barbados! #

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-Right, you ready?

-Yeah.

-Here we are.

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In sunny Playa Del Peckham! LAUGHTER

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-Oh!

-Can you manage?

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Yeah. Excellent!

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I know it's not the real thing, but you can sit in a deckchair

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and close your eyes.

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The Pina Coladas are over there,

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and you can put your feet in the sand. Yeah.

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This is ideal! We should do this at home!

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And here's a Pina Colada, get that down your neck! There you go.

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Thank you very much.

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Right, I'm going to leave you two to enjoy your time in the sun.

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-Cheers, Paul!

-Oh, no, Cheers to you! You're here!

-Cheers.

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I wasn't expecting this at all. It's just amazing.

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-Cheers!

-Cheers, darling.

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'It's a small gesture, but it's put a smile on Len's face

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'and that's good enough for me.'

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-Que sera, sera. That's the attitude.

-Yeah.

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You know? They're ready to face it, the inevitable.

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-And you see now why we come here?

-Yes, very much.

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It makes you wonder though about our own attitude.

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So if you were facing it tomorrow, how you would deal with it?

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And when some of the cadets come here, very often,

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they leave, not in bits, but they leave deeply moved.

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Well, for a lot of people who've never faced death,

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this would be horrific.

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-Yeah. This would be... They wouldn't be able to handle it.

-Mmm.

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But I'm an old hand. We know the Grim Reaper, really.

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-You've been through some stuff, I hear you on that, yeah.

-I have.

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So I'm sort of prepared for it,

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but I should imagine a young officer coming in, it would shake them up.

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-Yeah.

-But it's going to happen to all of us.

-Yeah.

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-I used to be in showbiz, you know! LAUGHING:

-Oh, did you(!)

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I used to do things on the stage,

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a slashed curtain and a bit of fire-eating!

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It's a wonderful place, this. It really is.

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And I think anybody scared of death should come and visit here.

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Life's for living and we have to think about now,

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not what's going to happen in the future to us,

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because as I've said, death is inevitable. But don't dwell on it.

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Just get on with your life and when it comes, it comes.

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Paul was amazing today and had a great attitude.

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And he's absolutely right, it is all about quality of life.

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I think the way that he opened himself up

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and was available to everyone he met

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was quite extraordinary and he's more than earned my respect.

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After his tough training,

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I really want Paul to experience the lighter side of what we do.

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We don't just support those who are experiencing illness,

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we think it's important that everyone in their later years

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gets the most out of life.

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I'm at a Salvation Army-run community centre

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and I'm going to an exercise class for the elderly -

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and I don't want any cracks because you'll get a slap, OK?

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This class has been running for 12 years

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and it has over 40 regulars.

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Today, I'm joining in and getting to know

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some of the ladies who come here.

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I know lots of friends - they don't go out anywhere, you know?

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You see, that's sad, isn't it?

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-It's up to you though, Paul.

-I was just going to say that.

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You can just sit at doors and look at four walls

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-or you can join these clubs.

-Yeah.

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-You've got to get out and...

-You've got to get out and about,

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-it keeps you young.

-Yeah, exactly. That's the attitude, isn't it?

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And all you ladies, you seem very hospitable.

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Well, I'm a new member and you've welcomed me.

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-Paul, you can come any time, dear.

-I'm coming next week!

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-Come Tuesday because they're having a roast.

-Oh, do they?

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Oh, very nice!

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One of the oldest in the group is Lily.

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-Your 94.

-Yes!

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You're remarkable for 94. What's your secret?

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-Well, I've never, ever smoked.

-Never?

-I've never got drunk.

-Never?!

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I really look forward to coming here.

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-Do you believe in is keeping fit?

-Oh, I do.

-Yeah, yeah.

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-I do it every morning at home as well.

-Oh, do you?

-Yeah.

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Oh, good for you!

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As though I was riding a bike - I do this!

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-And do you feel 94? No?

-No!

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No, of course you don't. This is it.

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Oh, well, good on you, Lily, that's all I can say.

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Good on you.

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'Oh, I can see what difference this class makes to them all.'

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Oops!

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Nearly took my eye out there, did you see?!

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And centre.

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'I'm getting the hang of this, all pretty gentle.'

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Right, guys, we're going to do our tag dance game.

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-Are we ready?

-ALL:

-Yes!

-All right!

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'OK, tag dancing. Well, this could be interesting.'

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Marching in your chairs, using those arms. Lovely, good!

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'Ah, she means chair dancing.'

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# I'm comin' up

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# So you better get this party started

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# Get this party started on a Saturday night... #

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'I didn't expect that.'

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# I'm comin' up

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# So you better get this party started. #

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'Right, in for a penny, in for a pound.'

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# I must confess I still believe... #

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Come on, Lil!

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Take your time.

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'I hope it's all right but I just had to tag Lily.'

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# Give me a sign... #

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# Tragedy!

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# When the feeling's gone and you can't go on... #

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'I imagine this is what a Girls Aloud reunion

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'will look like in 50 years.'

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I don't know where she gets her energy from. 94!

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Yup, 94!

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Well, you've done well there. You've done a full circuit.

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You have, you've done really well. Incredible!

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# When the morning cries and you don't know why...#

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The Sally Army believe it's important for all of us

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to get the best out of life, whatever our age

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and these lot are certainly doing that.

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'I can't believe it, me training is over.

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'I've learned so much about the organisation

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'and the challenges faced by the officers on a daily basis.

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'Now it's time for my big finale.'

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-Nice to see you.

-And you. Are you all right? Give us a cuddle.

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When I first met Paul he told me that he

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was desperate to march with the Sally Army band down Oxford Street.

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It was his dream.

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And I told him if he got his sleeves rolled up

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and nailed his training,

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then maybe he could be a guest with them for the day.

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Do you know what? He's nailed it.

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So it's a big day today.

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Because you know our Salvation Army uniform

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-is a declaration of our faith, that's the first thing.

-Yeah, yeah.

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-The S's stand for something.

-The S's stand for Saved to Serve.

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So it's who we are and what we do all in one place.

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-Yep.

-We don't want to give that to you because that's actually

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-a big thing to ask of you.

-Well, it is...

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How do you feel about those two S's in your life?

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That's a big question.

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PAUL EXHALES

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Whether I've been saved or not? I don't know if I've been saved.

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I don't know whether I've fallen, to tell you the truth.

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-That's all right.

-This is the other thing that made me

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-question doing this.

-Yeah.

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You know, I've done some peculiar jobs in my time, that's guaranteed.

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You know what I mean? And I've had a bit of a racy past, I'll admit that.

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But if you believe in a higher being then it's up to him

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whether I've been saved or not, it's not up to me.

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-Do you know what, I would totally go with that.

-Yeah.

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In terms of judgement, it's not up to me to tell you

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whether you're saved. I am personally really grateful

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for the way that you have immersed yourself in every single thing

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-you've done with us.

-Well, I've enjoyed it.

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I know some of it's been quite harrowing.

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-It's kind of like your graduation.

-It is.

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All the different things that you've been involved with

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and today you get to realise that childhood dream

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to march out with the band.

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You know, I've been on protest marches and demos in the past,

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but I never thought that actually on a Sunday morning I'd be out

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there in a Salvation Army uniform marching with the band.

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The uniform we've got for you is in the Salvation Army style.

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For all the missions I've asked you to get involved in,

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this is the most public, this is the most historical.

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We've been doing this for the longest time.

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It was in 1878 that William Booth introduced brass bands to his army.

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He saw them as part of the mission to reach out to the

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poor of East London.

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Many had never set foot inside a church

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and so the Salvation Army marched through the streets

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to the sound of the band.

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You really couldn't miss them.

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Now in the UK they have over 400 brass bands.

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There's a little bit of weight on you.

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It's a privilege not afforded to everybody.

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I know and I'm terrified that I'll make it look a mess

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or I'll get out of step.

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And on that drum you can have a little bit more fun as well.

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-You do know that... There's a bit of...

-I'll be giving it a bit of...

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-Yeah.

-You can get a bit of swagger, you know? A little, "Ahh..."

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I just hope I don't play for, like, a burlesque group.

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Giving it the slow kettledrum thing.

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I think you've got to do it your way, though.

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-Don't... This isn't a sausage factory.

-Yeah.

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-Do Paul O'Grady doing a Salvation Army March.

-Can you smile

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-or do you have to be quite solemn?

-You have to smile. Feel free.

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I thought we were all very, you know...

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Well, it has to be joyous, otherwise who's going to follow that?

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So I'm going to leave you to it now to get changed

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and then we will line-up with the band and...

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But, you know... You know, I don't get stage fright

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and I'm a bit... Not...

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-Oh, really?! You're nervous!

-Not nervous as such.

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I don't know what it is, it's odd.

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I just... I don't know. I feel like I shouldn't be doing it, really.

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OK, remember you have given out food parcels to be homeless,

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you have taught children how to bake,

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-you have given food to refugee children...

-Danced with old ladies.

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..you have done everything of who we are.

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You have the right and we're giving you this privilege for a reason.

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-Fabulous, Captain.

-Enough said.

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-Well, I'm going to get it on now.

-I will leave you to it.

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Would you all like clearing the room, please?

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This ain't a strip show. Come on, hop it. Out! Out! Go on, out.

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If you want to watch it, you've got to pay.

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There you are.

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Do I look saintly?

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Do I? Or do I look like a tram driver?

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I'm not sure about the hat now.

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You can't really wear it at a jaunty angle like that, can you?

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It's a bit Dietrich.

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I've passed. Yeah, no, I think I have.

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Well, Jo said I passed with flying colours.

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Are they all waiting there for me to come out?

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Oh, I'm mortified! I've gone shy.

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The can't believe it!

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I can walk on to the Palladium and it wouldn't bother me.

0:23:130:23:16

It wouldn't bother me one iota.

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And, yet, here I am in Oxford Circus dressed as a Salvation Army officer

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holding a drum and I've gone shy. I can't...

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Are they all out there waiting...? Oh, no!

0:23:250:23:28

The shame of it.

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HE MUMBLES NERVOUSLY

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-Hey up, what do you reckon?

-Looking very smart.

-Thank you.

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-I feel like such a fraud.

-Not at all, not at all.

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-We'll see you at the front.

-OK.

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Are you ready? OK.

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'All right, this is it.'

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BRASS BAND PLAYS

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Oh, this is fabulous!

0:23:580:24:00

'This is wonderful, just wonderful.'

0:24:040:24:06

'It's a real honour and I can't believe

0:24:060:24:08

'I'm finally getting to do it.'

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BRASS BAND PLAYS

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I'm part of the team and you're there marching with your drum

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and it's just sensational.

0:24:240:24:27

'The last three months have been an incredible journey for me.

0:24:270:24:30

'I thought I knew about the Salvation Army

0:24:300:24:32

'but I had no idea they did so much and helped so many.

0:24:320:24:35

'Right from the start my training has been a real eye-opener.'

0:24:370:24:40

I didn't do any feet washing but it was nice to be able to sit

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and chat to them.

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'I got used to expecting the unexpected.'

0:24:450:24:47

You want me to do a Bible class with children?

0:24:470:24:50

'And when things didn't go my way...'

0:24:500:24:52

-HE SHOUTS: I'm going to dry, you wash.

-What?

0:24:520:24:54

I'm getting on my own nerves here!

0:24:540:24:56

Eventually I found ways to make things work.

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# Maria...! #

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Hey, good!

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I'm just here to support him and show him

0:25:040:25:08

how proud we are of him today.

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I'm really excited to see him finally fulfil his dream.

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It's always bothered me that they don't accept people

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in same-sex relationships as soldiers.

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So I took that objection to the top.

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Say you were a same-sex couple...

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You wouldn't be allowed to be a member.

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But that's upsetting, really,

0:25:310:25:33

because I know so many men and women who are gay and lesbian -

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they'd be the most wonderful officers.

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They could volunteer for us, you could come to our church services.

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If you want to become a soldier in the Salvation Army you have

0:25:420:25:45

to commit to what we believe.

0:25:450:25:47

'One of the most difficult points of my journey.'

0:25:470:25:50

Within the organisation they have restrictions, but for people

0:25:500:25:54

who are looking for help, they're not judgemental at all.

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They'll help anyone, regardless of sex, race, religion, whatever.

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'It feels that my work with the Army has taught me

0:26:030:26:06

a lot about the issues facing struggling families today.

0:26:060:26:11

-I don't deserve to come to come to somewhere like this.

-But you do.

0:26:110:26:14

-If your kids are hungry...

-You've got to eat.

-You've got to eat.

0:26:140:26:17

-I just think people need to know there's no shame.

-Absolutely.

0:26:170:26:19

There is none at all.

0:26:190:26:21

It took me to the heart of the refugee crisis

0:26:210:26:23

and the immediate help needed there.

0:26:230:26:26

What's going to happen to them now?

0:26:260:26:28

-Go home, you!

-Just go! Just go!

0:26:280:26:31

It's just like a pebble in the ocean - hopeless.

0:26:310:26:34

Paul did a fantastic job supporting the Salvation Army and finding out

0:26:390:26:43

what they do for people across the country.

0:26:430:26:46

'I'll tell you what I have learned,'

0:26:460:26:47

that I never really left social services.

0:26:470:26:50

'I thought I might have gone showbiz and I haven't.'

0:26:500:26:52

So that's very reassuring to me, that I'm still the same person

0:26:520:26:55

-that I used to be.

-Yeah.

0:26:550:26:57

I'm just an ordinary person doing an extraordinary job.

0:26:570:27:00

'The Salvation Army have reminded me

0:27:010:27:03

'it's about listening to people as they face the problems.'

0:27:030:27:06

I lost all my family. I still couldn't stop.

0:27:060:27:09

-We'll have no messing when we get in there.

-Come on, then.

0:27:090:27:12

'And supporting them as they come out the other side.'

0:27:120:27:15

-You should be proud of yourselves.

-Oh, thanks.

0:27:150:27:17

You can see it in their eyes - they got a future now.

0:27:170:27:20

I got myself in a bubble. It's like, I don't want to be here any more.

0:27:200:27:23

You needed a friend.

0:27:230:27:25

'The more you support people, the more it changes you.'

0:27:250:27:29

Now everyone's trying to get him to stop talking.

0:27:290:27:31

He's been cheering me on all the way through my campaign

0:27:350:27:37

to get better as well.

0:27:370:27:39

'As I see all these people that I've helped along the way

0:27:390:27:42

'cheering me on, I realise I've actually learnt a lot.'

0:27:420:27:46

I really appreciate it. Aren't they good, eh? Aren't they?

0:27:460:27:49

'It's open my eyes, opened my heart

0:27:500:27:54

'and I'm proud to be able to bang on my drum and march with them.'

0:27:540:27:57

Well, I never thought I'd march down Oxford Street

0:27:580:28:01

and I loved every second of it.

0:28:010:28:03

You've come to the end of your journey with me in particular

0:28:030:28:05

-and with the Salvation Army.

-I'm quite sad.

-I'm going to miss you.

0:28:050:28:08

Come here because I've really enjoyed myself. Honestly, I have.

0:28:080:28:11

-I've had a...

-Has it been worth it?

-It has very much.

0:28:110:28:14

I loved it. I could do that again.

0:28:140:28:16

BRASS BAND PLAYS

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I mean, I haven't got my two S's.

0:28:240:28:26

But give me time, folks, give me time.

0:28:260:28:28

# I used to smoke

0:28:290:28:31

# I used to drink

0:28:310:28:32

# I used to smoke and drink and dance the hoochie-coo

0:28:320:28:37

# I used to smoke and drink

0:28:370:28:39

# Smoke and drink and dance the hoochie-coo

0:28:390:28:42

# Yes, I did

0:28:420:28:44

# But now I'm standin' on this corner

0:28:440:28:46

# Prayin' for me and you

0:28:460:28:49

# Yes, I am. #

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