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'What we like in a smell is determined by our culture and environment. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:08 | |
'Making scent for western tastes used to be easy, but things are changing.' | 0:00:08 | 0:00:13 | |
The European business and the American business | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
have not enjoyed tremendous success over the last few years and these other regions are exploding. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:22 | |
'But the new customers don't all want the same thing. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
'The Russians want rich and heavy. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
'The Chinese crave light and airy | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
'and the Brazilians go bananas for fruits.' | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
-You wouldn't use that in a perfume, would you? -I would. I would. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
'What we want in a perfume depends on where we are, but also when we are. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:46 | |
'In Arabia, they lust for musky oriental scents that were all the rage in Victorian England.' | 0:00:46 | 0:00:52 | |
I've brought some treasure for you, the best of English perfumery. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:57 | |
'The tastes of London, Paris and New York will soon count for little. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:02 | |
'What we smell like in the future is more likely to be dictated | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
'by the customers of Shanghai, Mumbai and Sao Paulo.' | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
Ah! | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
'Ann Gottlieb's nose is small, but influential. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
'She's a predictor of global scent tastes.' | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
Then see if you can make it at three and if we can get the test at nine. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:37 | |
'The Manhattan-based grandmother works regularly for a top designer we can't name. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:43 | |
'His perfumers are developing a new fragrance aimed at Chinese women whose tastes are changing fast.' | 0:01:44 | 0:01:51 | |
You seem very thoughtful. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
I'm really concerned about the viability of this fragrance, | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
as much as I love it and the direction in which it's going. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:05 | |
Asia is a very important market for us and I don't know whether or not this is going to work there. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:11 | |
I'm just not sure it'll work there. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
This is the more different woody note. This is more amber. This is more woody. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:22 | |
Vetiver, cedar, this kind of woodiness. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
So this is the same as I'm wearing with a tweak on top... | 0:02:25 | 0:02:30 | |
'There's a big sociological piece of what I do | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
'in understanding what the tastes of the women and men of India are, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
'what the tastes of the Chinese are.' | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
-I'm not sure. -You're not sure. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
OK, come back again. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
What happens here for me is that I go back into a little bit of that animalic dirtiness | 0:02:44 | 0:02:50 | |
which I don't in the rest, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
so I think what I would like to do is take that and that | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
because those two maintain the integrity of the fragrance that I love. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:02 | |
'Fans in Europe and North America might also like this perfume, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
'but they're not going to get a sniff of it.' | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
Because specific regions are such lucrative businesses, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:17 | |
yes, specific fragrances would be created by him for those regions. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:22 | |
-And not available here in North America or in Europe? -Probably not. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:27 | |
What we are doing now are regional fragrances | 0:03:27 | 0:03:32 | |
that are available only in certain locations. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
It's my responsibility to make sure | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
that a fragrance that is supposed to be region-appropriate is so. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:45 | |
Gottlieb's office on Central Park is filled with trophies. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:53 | |
For four decades, big name clients have had huge successes | 0:03:56 | 0:04:01 | |
following her advice on western tastes. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
These days, her nose takes her east and south. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
Gottlieb isn't limited to fine fragrance. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:15 | |
Thanks to her, adolescent youth the world over smells pungently sexy. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:21 | |
One of the projects that I've worked on and I've worked on it for 20 years | 0:04:21 | 0:04:27 | |
is Axe, the bodyspray. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
-That we call Lynx? -That you call Lynx in the UK. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
It is targeted really to teenage boys | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
and I feel very much like its mother. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
And we do a new one every year and we get them pretty right. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:46 | |
Historically, Lynx scents have been tuned to European tastes, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:54 | |
but Ann is going to change that. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
The brand's HQ is in London and that's where she's heading. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
On the banks of the River Thames sit the offices | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
where the future of Lynx or Axe is planned. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
Teenage scent tastes change fast and there's a new bodyspray every year. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:18 | |
It's worn by boys all over the world, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
but Gottlieb knows that the smell of the next one will be dictated by just one territory. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:28 | |
There is one country, ONE country, that matters more to Lynx and to Axe | 0:05:28 | 0:05:34 | |
than any other and that's Brazil. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
They're fragrance-literate and they love fragrance, so the potential is huge there, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:42 | |
probably bigger than any other region in the world. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
For brand manager Russell Taylor, there are practical reasons why the spray does so well in Brazil. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:53 | |
What we find in a lot of our Latin American markets is that they use more product. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:58 | |
They want fresher fragrances and they shower more as well, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
so the usage occasions in hotter climates are very, very different from the colder climates | 0:06:02 | 0:06:08 | |
and that's effectively where the drive of growth on the brand comes from. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:13 | |
Three teams of perfumers are in competition. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
This group believes they've got Brazil bottled. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
'This is a coveted brief. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
'This represents a lot of money to the house that wins. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:29 | |
'And if they hear that their fragrances are not loved or that they're not promising, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:35 | |
'it's very disappointing for them. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
'There's a good chance there will be tears.' | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
We are at the... At this point in our evaluation, I know that we're not so happy. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:50 | |
And so we would like to take a look at where we are here. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:55 | |
Let's just smell, OK? | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
'We are designing a product that is specifically for a 16 to 25-year-old consumer. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:04 | |
'You would tend to do a product that would smell young.' | 0:07:04 | 0:07:10 | |
Someone in this room is fascinated with the coconut part of the... | 0:07:10 | 0:07:15 | |
'Brazilians love fruity ingredients, they love floral ingredients, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
'so that what I am looking for captures that, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
'but also something that really is tasty and yummy | 0:07:22 | 0:07:27 | |
'and yet decidedly masculine.' | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
Do you want to smell both themes maybe on skin? | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
-Let's definitely go to skin, yes. I'm so happy that you've brought skin with you. -Let me test. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:38 | |
The skin executive represents a teenage boy. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
He's probably lived on Pot Noodles and gone without showers for a week. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
OK, let's have a look. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
'Coconut is a yummy ingredient.' | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
What I would really love to do to keep the fragrance sophisticated | 0:07:54 | 0:07:59 | |
is find a way of sort of wrapping it, so that the sweetness so much isn't there. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:04 | |
What if we mix the two? | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
Pierre, come smell and see if you think it would work. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
Yeah, definitely. I think it's pretty feasible. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
Fragrance development is a journey. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
If we make this one-dimensional, then we will fail, but you won't make it one-dimensional | 0:08:23 | 0:08:28 | |
and the magic now we need to see coming through from you | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
is something that you want to smell and smell and smell and smell. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
Are guys going to remember this fragrance? | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
You guys need to do a lot more work, so let's not be lazy now and say, "This is it." | 0:08:39 | 0:08:45 | |
But please, you know, work on the sophistication, so we don't come across as being too cheap. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:51 | |
It's worth the pain. The contract for just one new version will pay millions. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:58 | |
It's a global brand | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
and it's a huge, huge contract for us, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
so to win it, we'd have a pretty big party. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
'Gottlieb still has to see the competing teams, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
'then she'll go to Brazil to ask teenagers for their opinion.' | 0:09:14 | 0:09:19 | |
It seems that there's quite a lot of work still to be done? | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
There certainly is. We aren't finished with the process at all. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
The next few weeks are a crunch period for all of us. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
I will be meeting with the fragrance houses on a...a few days a week. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:37 | |
As they create, I evaluate, go back again, create again. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
It's an elaborate process. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
And I will be taking to Brazil | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
what I hope will be one single can of fragrance | 0:09:47 | 0:09:52 | |
and relying on the data that comes out of this | 0:09:52 | 0:09:57 | |
to tell us whether or not we have a fragrance that's done. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:02 | |
Brazil's opinion matters. It's the fastest growing fragrance market on Earth. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:22 | |
The people love anything perfumed. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
The latest craze is for tutti-frutti scented footwear. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
Everyone who can spends something on scented products, from perfume to air fresheners. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:43 | |
To cap it all, when the temperature soars and the humidity gets too much, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:50 | |
they shower it off and start all over again. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
For the fragrance industry, Brazil is the perfect storm. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
Even car dealers are fragrance-obsessed. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
This is the Aston Martin scent. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
Everyone coming into our show rooms will smell the scent. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
We can give them a small bottle for free. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
Not for free, you know. Nothing is free. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
Brazil used to be politically unstable which made foreign investors wary. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:28 | |
But all that has changed. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
We are in business for about three months. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
Initially, we thought we had a market in Brazil for around 25 units a year, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:42 | |
but to our surprise, we sold already 25 in less than three months. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:47 | |
They know that when they buy one car like this, they are paying more taxes than the value of the car, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:53 | |
but they still want to have one of these babies. The whole country is coming up. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:58 | |
We're having a lot more people in this country move to the middle class. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:05 | |
Things are looking up...for some. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
Most people can't afford a bicycle, let alone an Aston Martin. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
But everybody wants a piece of Brazil's new wealth. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
Those who aren't rich can at least smell as though they are, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
but not with posh perfumes. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
The real money isn't in eau de toilette. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
It's in toilet cleaner. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
The big chemical companies are climbing over each other | 0:12:31 | 0:12:36 | |
to make Latin bathrooms and kitchens rainforest-fresh. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
Flavia Motta works for the biggest fragrance corporation of all, Givaudan. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:46 | |
OK, so here we are. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
For her, every day is laundry day. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
So, different types of washing machines. We have top loads that are very common in Brazil. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:05 | |
Not so common in Brazil, the front loads. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
We also use drying machines. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
We wash towels with different fragrances | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
in all these machines, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
so that then we can compare how we perceive this fragrance | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
in the different moments, in the different washing phases - | 0:13:22 | 0:13:27 | |
when we pour the product inside the machine, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
when it is soaking, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
then when it's washing, | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
after, when the cycle finishes, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
to make sure that the fragrance develops, performs in the best way in all these moments. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:44 | |
All of them are very important for the performance of the product, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
-but there are some that are what we call the magical moments. -The magical moments? -The magical moments. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:54 | |
The ones that are the key ones for the decision on a product. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
So this is one of the magical moments when we talk about detergent powders. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
The cycle has just finished. I open the machine. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
I take it out... | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
-I smell it in this way. -Is that the magical moment? -That's one of those. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:13 | |
Yes, job well done. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
There is a very touching story. I went once on a visit up north | 0:14:15 | 0:14:20 | |
to very low income consumers. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
It was a couple with four kids. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
The six of them would share the two beds. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
Although she was extremely poor, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
one of the best moments in her day was when they went to bed. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:38 | |
And I said, "Why is that?" | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
Because she owned just one bed sheet for each bed, but she would wash it every day. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:47 | |
This washing powder would make the bed sheet very clean and above all perfumed. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:53 | |
It was a way for her of inclusion to be able to afford... | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
If she could not afford perfume itself, | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
fragrance would come through products that she used in the house. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
TOILET FLUSHES | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
Whenever Brazil visits the bathroom, Givaudan goes with them. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
There are around 50 million households in Brazil. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:25 | |
All the perfumers have to do is correctly decipher their tastes. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
The problem is, they're changing with ever-increasing speed. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
In the past, scent fashions evolved more slowly. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
The Victorians loved rich, musky fragrances. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:58 | |
Those tastes lasted for decades | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
before the British fell in love with lighter perfumes. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
Simon and Amanda Brooke have re-created a Victorian perfume company. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:14 | |
They hope the scents of the past can be their future, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
but can they really turn back the taste clock? | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
'You need to do this with your nose.' | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
HE SNIFFS | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
Really breathe out hard and fast, then smell in very slowly. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
The Brookes are not trained perfumers and turn to scent savant Roja Dove for advice. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:35 | |
This is Rose de Mai. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
Dove is a perfumer who champions the grand fragrances of yesteryear. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:43 | |
He provides a sketch of the scent tastes of the 1890s. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
Jasmine suggests something a little bit more, you know, a button undone, a bit of decollete on show. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:54 | |
The two together give you something very feminine and luxurious. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
So this jasmine you're smelling here costs just over double the price of gold bullion. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:04 | |
Despite their reputation for sobriety, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
Victorians would lose control at a whiff of civet, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
the smell of a wildcat's anus. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
This material is now banned as a natural material. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
I have a little cache of it which I've had for years, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
so I thought that this warranted smelling the real stuff. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
It's quite interesting when you smell civet | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
to think that in Ethiopia where it comes from, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
brides bathe in it, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
grooms put it in their hair as a pomade on the wedding night and... | 0:17:35 | 0:17:41 | |
in Britain, in Georgian Britain, this was the scent of the dandy, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
because it smells totally faecal, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
so be prepared, it's not the prettiest thing you're ever likely to smell. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:53 | |
Hmm... | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
It's very, very sensual. I mean, this is the animal world. | 0:17:55 | 0:18:00 | |
It reminds me of something. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
You have come a long way. If you don't think civet's horrid, you have come a long way. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:07 | |
Simon and Amanda Brooke's home used to smell of air freshener | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
and occasionally Old Spice. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
Now, on Monday mornings, Rose de Mai, Tonka Bean | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
and Opopanax intermingle with bacon and egg. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
Simon Brooke was interested in his family tree. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
Three generations back was John Grossmith, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
perfumer by royal appointment. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
The real treasure, which is here... | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
And I ought to have my white gloves on for this. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
But here you have in John Lipscomb Grossmith's own hand | 0:18:52 | 0:18:59 | |
the original formulae for almond oil, brilliantine, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
almond shaving cream, hygienic salts. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
Here's a special one - Regal, which was produced for King Edward. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:11 | |
Here we have... Ah, this is a good one - Hasu-no-Hana, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:16 | |
so with rose and jasmine. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
New Mown Hay | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
with lots of jasmine and rose and orange. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
Oakmoss with civet. Page after page. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
Clearly, the perfume or the creativity of those sorts of things was in his genes. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:34 | |
In bringing a long-dead perfumery back to life, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
the Brookes have changed their own. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
They sold the weekend cottage and gave up their old jobs to re-create three antique scents. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:47 | |
This isn't my best attempt. It'll turn out looking all right. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
I read Archaeology at university. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
But when I graduated, I became an accountant. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
We acquired the company | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
because it seemed... | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
..a kind of tidy thing to do. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
It was about saying, "Let's get this back into the family. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
"It used to belong to the family. We found it. It's not doing anything. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:20 | |
"Let's see if we can just get it back into family ownership." | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
A lot of the genealogy stuff is emotionally driven. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
And then we realised actually it was probably quite a good business proposition as well. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:37 | |
One or two people said, "There's a recession on." | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
But mainly people said, "Wow, what an amazing idea!" | 0:20:41 | 0:20:46 | |
HE SPRAYS PERFUME | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
The Brookes were innocents in paradise when Roja Dove took them under his wing. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:55 | |
In 2008, I gave a lecture at the Victoria and Albert Museum. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:01 | |
At the end of it, a couple came and said, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
"We've just discovered that we are direct descendants of the Grossmith family." | 0:21:04 | 0:21:10 | |
And I said, "Oh!" We started to talk about how maybe this house could be revived. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:15 | |
But given how fast scent tastes are changing today, is it possible | 0:21:15 | 0:21:20 | |
that perfumes created over a century ago can still have appeal? | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
Some ideas they had were so removed from how the market is today. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
It is not what is generally fashionable in the market, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
but the cost of producing a scent like this is extraordinary | 0:21:32 | 0:21:37 | |
because of the volume of natural raw materials of the very highest quality. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:42 | |
I don't think that it will ever be mainstream, but that's part of its appeal. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:47 | |
And this very slight retrospective feel, they're of a particular period in history | 0:21:47 | 0:21:53 | |
and I think certain people crave it because it suggests something legitimate and authentic. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:58 | |
The Brookes hope to reconnect perfume connoisseurs with the scents of the past. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:04 | |
They're not making fragrance for the fast-changing mass market. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:09 | |
People probably like what they would call a light perfume, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
something that's got a lot of head notes and then rather disappears, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
that they refresh during the day several times. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
Ours are not like that. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
You see the names are very exotic. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
This is designed to conjure up the Japanese lotus lily and the mysterious country of Japan | 0:22:28 | 0:22:33 | |
because in 1888 it was only just kind of opening up. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
-Guerlain did Mitsouko. -Everybody is very interested in the Orient. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
This has got a lot of bitter orange at the top. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
Quite a bitter start. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
-I think it's like dry wine or something. -Yeah. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
'People often say, "That's very different. I haven't smelt anything like that before." | 0:22:51 | 0:22:57 | |
'And I think they always find them very rich.' | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
Let it settle. Let it die down and then smell it in a few minutes' time. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:05 | |
It's such a personal thing. Does it remind you of anything? | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
Yes, Shalimar. One of them I absolutely detest... | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
'It isn't instant gratification. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
'Obviously, there's a lovely start and a lovely heart note, but it carries on, there's progress. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:20 | |
'And it takes time.' | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
-..a fashion for these ingredients. -I like this. -Good. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
-Have we got the name of this? -You have. That's Shem-el-Nessim. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:31 | |
'They are a very rich mixture.' | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
I think it's rich from start to finish. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
These perfumes transported Victorian ladies to the exotic Orient. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:46 | |
Over at Harrods, the ladies of the modern Orient can't get enough of them. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:53 | |
Roja Dove has to get to work early. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
It's just coming up to twenty to ten and the doors of Harrods will open at ten o'clock. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:04 | |
In the summer, we have a very large Middle Eastern clientele. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
They love scent. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
The number one doesn't translate into English from Arabic | 0:24:10 | 0:24:15 | |
because most of our Middle Eastern clients will buy three, six, ten, twelve bottles of fragrance. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:21 | |
We have just received in these fantastic presentations which are in Baccarat crystal. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:30 | |
The bottles are made totally by hand. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
And I just heard this morning that a client came yesterday | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
who wanted to buy three pieces of each of these fragrances. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
The Grossmith Baccarat presentations retail for around £6,000 a piece. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:46 | |
-And they wanted nine of them? -They wanted nine of them. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
-That's one order? -That's one order. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
The Brookes' big opportunity might be selling the Orient a vision of Victorian England. | 0:24:55 | 0:25:00 | |
Ann Gottlieb is on her own odyssey. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
After weeks of refinement and adjustment, she has what she hopes is the next Lynx, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:17 | |
but until the teenage lads of Sao Paulo have approved it, it's still work in progress. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:23 | |
If Gottlieb has misjudged the Brazilian scent palate, it'll be back to the drawing board. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:31 | |
Hi, it's great to see you again. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
Great to see you too. How was your trip...? | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
I am so happy to be in this city. I love Brazil. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:46 | |
Brazil is the biggest fragrance market in the world and fragrance is selling like crazy. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:51 | |
And it is an opportunity | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
for brands to come here and sell their wares. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
And you don't get what they like unless you talk to them and see what they keep in their bathrooms. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:05 | |
And that's the way to really create products that they love. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:11 | |
'At the last Brazilian census, there were over 27 million boys about to turn 15.' | 0:26:15 | 0:26:23 | |
-What do you do if they don't like it? -What will we do? | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
Well, at this point in time, it's really just a piece of information, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:31 | |
so that we have some idea of really forecasting and doing all of the other logistics. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:38 | |
At this point, it will be very sad if they don't like it. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:44 | |
We are going in thinking that... | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
This is sort of what is called the disaster check. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
And I hope that that word never pops up again in the course of this product. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:57 | |
One of the aspects about this culture that fascinates me so is their attitude about sex. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:05 | |
It's extraordinarily liberal and free and this is true of guys and girls, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:11 | |
which maybe is one of the reasons they smile so much all the time. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:16 | |
Is it all about sex? | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
Um... It's all about sensuality. I'm not sure it's all about sex. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:23 | |
For guys, it's all about sex. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
Gottlieb has 48 hours to hear if groups of adolescents like her bodyspray. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:35 | |
The boys are younger than Gottlieb had expected, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
so the focus group has to feel informal, a bit of a game. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
Behind a two-way mirror, executives hang on their every word | 0:27:50 | 0:27:55 | |
with millions of dollars at stake. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
When it comes time for the boys to grade the scent, the results are curiously similar. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:05 | |
Ten. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:06 | |
-Oito. -Eight. Ten. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
-Nove. -Nine. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:10 | |
-Seite. -Seven. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
-Seite. -Seven. -Nove. -Nine. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
Look at how uncomfortable it makes them. They're all giggling. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
-All the others seem to repeat... -They use the same words. -The same words. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:30 | |
Sometimes in these, one person's opinion dominates and then everybody shares the same opinion. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:36 | |
I travelled quite a distance to come here, | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
so that when a chunk of time is somewhat wasted | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
because the group does not give any feedback that's viable, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
it's frustrating, it's a waste of time. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
Failure is not an option. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
The middle market is incredibly competitive | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
and other companies have been making their mark here for decades. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:08 | |
Sales to Brazilian fragrance fans account for 20% of Avon's worldwide revenue. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:20 | |
Juliana de Faria and Ana Alvarez are marketing executives. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:29 | |
We've got a lot of different words to talk about smells. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
It's like the Eskimos with the words for ice or cold or water, whatever. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
So we have... LISTS PORTUGUESE TERMS | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
Almost like slangs for describing bad odour. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:50 | |
It's just a lot of bad words! | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
But then you have a lot of good words for describing when you smell good. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
MORE PORTUGUESE TERMS | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
A lot of "inha"! | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
-What do they mean? What do those words mean? -Fresh and clean, mostly. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:08 | |
-But the "inha" makes it... -Yummy. -Yummy. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
Avon's success depends on women selling an intimate product | 0:30:16 | 0:30:22 | |
to customers who are also friends. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
In Brazil, they don't have a sales force. They have an army. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:29 | |
1.5 million reps in Brazil alone. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
-We have... -1.5 million women selling Avon cosmetics? -Women and men. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:40 | |
Almost 1% of the Brazilian population are Avon men. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:45 | |
Every woman, every man, they don't have access to the Chanels of the world. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:52 | |
So what happens from a taste-making perspective, the Brazilian market is kind of an island | 0:30:52 | 0:30:57 | |
where local players have sort of shaped the way Brazil smells. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:02 | |
Ahhhh! | 0:31:04 | 0:31:05 | |
Paixao! Paixao! | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
Trends that are very pervasive in New York or in Europe don't necessarily translate here. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:15 | |
So when we brief a fragrance house, an international perfumer that's developing something for Avon, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:22 | |
it has to take into account Brazil and interpret the trends from a Brazilian perspective. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:28 | |
And if you don't do well here, with an Avon fragrance, | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
-are you likely to get knocked off the list? -Absolutely, absolutely. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:38 | |
Some of Avon's scents are manufactured locally by fragrance company Givaudan. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:46 | |
They believe in total immersion | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
and have brought French perfumer Thierry Bessard to live here and permanently adjust his nose. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:57 | |
It looks nice, but very...strong. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
Very natural. It's a bit creamy as well. Quite interesting. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:07 | |
I think that would be very good in a masculine or feminine fragrance. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:12 | |
'I came here for six months and it has been 15 years now. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:21 | |
'To me as a perfumer, it's fantastic to work in a country | 0:32:21 | 0:32:26 | |
'where all the people love fragrance, you know.' | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
-Everest. -Everest? | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
OK, so that's probably why it smells so fresh. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
'Here it's very important that a fragrance is always very fresh. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:40 | |
'It has to be fresh and clean. At the same time, they want something that is a bit sensual as well.' | 0:32:40 | 0:32:47 | |
Smells have different meanings in different cultures. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
It's been an education for the Frenchman. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
Fruity notes, you know, are not the same as in Europe, partly because you don't have the same fruits. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:04 | |
In Europe, vanilla is very sweet and it's a heavy fragrance. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:09 | |
Here it is very often considered as a fresh fragrance. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:14 | |
'You have to adapt to that type of thinking.' | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
OK. It was... | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
Kenzo, Homme. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
'I was certainly confused with lavender.' | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
When you come from Europe, you think lavender is for the old lady or is a masculine fragrance. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:45 | |
Here it is very much loved by women, actually. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
Actually, you wouldn't find that many fragrances with chocolate or coffee here. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:56 | |
I think partly because... | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
You know, they don't like to find on their skin something that they drink all the time. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:05 | |
Coffee is very strong here and coffee for them is cheap, OK? | 0:34:05 | 0:34:10 | |
It's the same with orange. Brazil produces a lot of oranges, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:15 | |
so if you have orange in a fragrance, this is something that is cheap. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:20 | |
Fahrenheit, OK. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
This... | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
Well, it is typically a mango smell, | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
but for those who don't know it's a bit peachy, apricot, that kind of fruit. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:45 | |
-You wouldn't use that in a perfume, would you? -I would, I would. Not alone and not obviously mango. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:53 | |
Bessard is concerned with public smells, but also private ones. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:59 | |
His tireless pursuit of local knowledge takes him into people's homes | 0:35:01 | 0:35:06 | |
to keep abreast of changing scent fashions. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
The next is Social Class C. Her name is Ana Celia. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
He and his colleague, Flavia Motta, make regular forays into the suburbs | 0:35:14 | 0:35:19 | |
to scratch and sniff. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
She wears, uh, lots of... local brands. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:27 | |
We must try to understand better. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:31 | |
How heavy a user is she? | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
Ah...she wears fragrance every day, seven days a week. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:37 | |
When asked to describe her favourite fragrance, she says... | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
Funny. "It smells like a rich lady." | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
-She wants to smell like a rich lady? -Yes. -OK. -It's inclusion. Social Class C. -Yeah. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:51 | |
OK, this was the lavender from Avon that she is using a lot. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:07 | |
And she cannot be without it. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
It's very refreshing and it really makes you feel very clean. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:19 | |
This one is from Natura. It's pitanga, pitanga is a local fruit. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:25 | |
Ah, this one is an air freshener, actually. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:30 | |
This one is passion flower and passion flower she likes better, actually. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:37 | |
This one is the one that she uses mostly at night. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
This fragrance is what she calls...cologne. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:46 | |
Actually, they are baby fragrances, originally, but... | 0:36:46 | 0:36:52 | |
she likes them because she said, well, it's... | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
It's a good smell. She doesn't know how to explain it further. | 0:36:56 | 0:37:01 | |
For now, Ana Celia's collection includes local products that nod to western tastes. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:11 | |
Smells for the upwardly mobile. But for how long? | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
'Europe and the US still have a big influence on the Brazilian perfumery, but...' | 0:37:19 | 0:37:26 | |
I'm pretty sure that one day we're going to see the reverse. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:31 | |
'In North London, the Brookes are looking to different horizons. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:43 | |
'They are preparing a nine-bottle order for a client in the Middle East.' | 0:37:43 | 0:37:49 | |
Can you manage? Is it heavy? Why don't we just push this lot out? | 0:37:49 | 0:37:54 | |
'Their scents are usually supplied in simple bottles, but there is something more exclusive available.' | 0:37:54 | 0:38:01 | |
Inside we have... | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
..one beautiful little bottle. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:10 | |
-Made from the original mould the family commissioned nearly 100 years ago. -Don't unwrap it over the sofa! | 0:38:10 | 0:38:17 | |
Hand-cut. And with pure gold as part of that etching process. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:23 | |
-Real gold? -Real gold, pure gold. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
Each stopper is individual to the particular flacon. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:31 | |
Just put it in. And the way to lock it is with a quarter turn. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:36 | |
I feel very proud that we've found the mould | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
and proud of my ancestors for having the foresight to commission one! We're very lucky. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:47 | |
So this is for a special order. It's our first commercial order | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
for a very special customer in the Middle East. He's ordered nine. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:56 | |
-And who is that customer? -I'd rather not say. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
-They're special people. -OK. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
It's going to a royal family in the Middle East. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
'This precious consignment is off to the airport and so is Simon. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
'There are rich pickings to be had in the Gulf and a sales drive is in order. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:17 | |
'Bahrain is unexplored territory for Grossmith. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:25 | |
'Brooke flies in to launch his trio of Victorian beauties | 0:39:26 | 0:39:31 | |
'in the kind of place that inspired his ancestors, but which they never saw.' | 0:39:31 | 0:39:36 | |
No leakages, nothing broken. Phew! | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
The launch party is at six o'clock tomorrow. We have the British Ambassador. He's going to be there. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:50 | |
And various VIPs. They love the English in the Middle East. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
Darn hot, though. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
'Hot and very humid. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
'The scents of Araby have to be strong to survive the climate, as the local competition knows well.' | 0:40:04 | 0:40:11 | |
No more. They are finished. All Arabic people is taking this. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:16 | |
Arabic people use only strong perfume. Very strong, this one. Arabic perfume always very strong. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:23 | |
All Arabic people, all people is taking this perfume. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
This is popular, this one. Arabic people is taking this. Very strong. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:32 | |
Perfume genital... | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
-Genital? -Oil perfume, this one. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
Very old perfume, this one. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
'Doing business on a new frontier, | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
'local knowledge is key. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
'Brooke is joined by Syrian perfume entrepreneur Bashir Nasri, a man with connections.' | 0:40:49 | 0:40:57 | |
A friend of mine, Sheikh Mohammed Asmawi, | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
is very wealthy man. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
50% kerosene, British Petroleum, Saudi Arabia. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:09 | |
Wow. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:11 | |
And he LOVES perfume. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
He is one of the ones who will buy yours, I can assure. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:18 | |
-Is he really? -One day, yes. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
I can feel the glass is really, really hot, but we haven't been outside long enough | 0:41:23 | 0:41:29 | |
-to know what the climate is like, I don't think. -It's 126 degrees. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:34 | |
Uh-huh? Wow. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
That's a record for me. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
'Simon wants a local distributor and Bashir takes him to meet the Al Hawaj family, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:46 | |
'perfume merchants across the Gulf.' | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
Perfume, fragrance in the Middle East is their life. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
It's their life. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
British lady consume 100ml in six months. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:02 | |
Here, less than one week. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
I'm sure in a few years everybody will know about Grossmith. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:12 | |
It's a pleasure to meet you. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
I've brought some treasure to show you. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
Shem-el-Nessim is Arabic for smelling the breeze. The best of English perfumery. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:23 | |
'You have to understand and know and respect the local ways of doing things. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:34 | |
'You forget that at your peril.' | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
I've never had a date like this before. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
This is my new world! I love it. When you've got something as good as this, where can you go wrong? | 0:42:45 | 0:42:52 | |
'Brooke is confident, but his scents will have to contend with sub-zero air conditioning | 0:42:59 | 0:43:06 | |
'and summer temperatures around 140 degrees. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:10 | |
'The most exciting thing about Simon used to be a pink silk tie. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:17 | |
'Now he consorts with merchant princes and the kind of customers | 0:43:17 | 0:43:21 | |
'who can spend their days snoozing, parking and shopping in malls. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:26 | |
'The launch is to take place in an Al Hawaj perfumery.' | 0:43:26 | 0:43:31 | |
Grossmith! Everywhere! Grossmith. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
Yes! | 0:43:37 | 0:43:38 | |
'Back at home, an event like this might pull in the squire-archy and a local beauty queen. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:46 | |
'Simon greets the British Ambassador.' | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
Hello. Thank you very much indeed for coming along to this. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:54 | |
I'm still getting used to this. ..Your Excellency, honoured guests | 0:43:54 | 0:43:59 | |
and friends in Bahrain, friends in Al Hawaj, my new... | 0:43:59 | 0:44:04 | |
I've thought about what my Grossmith ancestors would think and they'd be absolutely delighted! | 0:44:04 | 0:44:11 | |
'They'd be even more pleased if they knew the identity of the next Grossmith customer. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:17 | |
'The morning after the night before, there's a call from the palace. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:30 | |
'A courtier wants to meet them at the Al Hawaj offices.' | 0:44:30 | 0:44:34 | |
The King, when he appoints a buyer, will not appoint anybody. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:38 | |
He'll appoint really somebody who is expert | 0:44:38 | 0:44:43 | |
and keen to find for His Majesty the fragrance which he loves. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:47 | |
They know about him. They know everything about their boss, the King, and they make the selection. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:54 | |
-This is it. -So there we are. -The packaging, presentation, everything is absolutely delightful. | 0:44:54 | 0:45:02 | |
It's the very best materials without reference to cost. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:06 | |
This is beautiful. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
'Peter Dodds has the ear and the credit card of the royal family. He selects all their luxury items.' | 0:45:11 | 0:45:18 | |
This is Shem-el-Nessim. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
A sweet opening... | 0:45:21 | 0:45:23 | |
Yes. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:25 | |
-This is... -Shem-el-Nessim. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
Florentine auras, so very, very expensive auras. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:32 | |
And, um, it's becoming my favourite. It's a favourite out in the Gulf. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:37 | |
We've used really lovely materials. We've gone for it and done it properly. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:43 | |
It's a real pleasure to share with you. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:46 | |
-Oh, that's gorgeous. -This is the perfume your grand-grand-grandmother... | 0:45:46 | 0:45:52 | |
-This is the perfume. -It's really lovely, really lovely. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:57 | |
Mm. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
-He'll love it, this one, believe me. -They're gorgeous, they really were stunning. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:05 | |
-Yes. -Yes! | 0:46:05 | 0:46:08 | |
-Wear by ladies also. -Yes. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
This is very... | 0:46:11 | 0:46:13 | |
Yes. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:17 | |
'It's the palace. State business.' | 0:46:20 | 0:46:22 | |
OK, three o'clock. Have the swimming pool ready. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:27 | |
Yes, please. All right, thank you very much. Bye bye. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:32 | |
So this is the spicy one. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:36 | |
This is a lovely one. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
The riches of the Middle East. Gold-plated. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:44 | |
-Like the first one... -Yes. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:46 | |
-Hello? -'The palace - again.' | 0:46:53 | 0:46:56 | |
Fine, thank you, sir. Yes, how are you, sir? Good. | 0:46:56 | 0:47:01 | |
Yes, he is aware of this. He will inform Major Khaled to arrange this. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:07 | |
Yes. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:09 | |
OK. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:12 | |
No problem. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
All right, sir. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:19 | |
OK, sir. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
Thank you. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
Thank you. Bye bye. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:26 | |
Sorry, gentlemen! | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
Yes... | 0:47:30 | 0:47:31 | |
I have a little gift for you, which I would be very grateful if you would accept. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:37 | |
-There's a 2ml vial of each of the three in there for you. -It's beautiful. Thank you. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:44 | |
There's always been a stigma in the West, to a certain extent, that men shouldn't have a manicure. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:50 | |
-It was shame. -Ashamed. It wasn't a manly thing to do! | 0:47:50 | 0:47:55 | |
But, of course, now | 0:47:55 | 0:47:57 | |
men, you know, in... the Arabic part of the world | 0:47:57 | 0:48:02 | |
and even in Far Eastern parts, | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
I think they tend to look after themselves better than probably we do in the West. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:11 | |
-It's part of their culture. -Yes. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:14 | |
Pleasant journey back. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
What a charming man. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:18 | |
-Yes! -The brothers in action! | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
Yes! Yes! | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
'Dealings with the palace are hush hush, not rush rush. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:30 | |
'Simon and Bashir head for the airport and Oman, the next kingdom in need of their fragrance. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:38 | |
'In Brazil, it's morning for Ann Gottlieb. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:49 | |
'Her first Axe focus group didn't yield reliable results. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:53 | |
'The second must deliver the local stamp of approval for her new body spray. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:59 | |
'Gottlieb has just 12 hours left in Brazil. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:10 | |
'These teams have more power than they know.' | 0:49:10 | 0:49:14 | |
Hi. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:17 | |
I'm Ann Gottlieb. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:20 | |
This looks like a perfect group. Absolutely perfect. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:29 | |
They're certainly the age. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
In just thinking about what my expectations were, | 0:49:33 | 0:49:38 | |
this is...this is it. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
TRANSLATING: Now I would like you to introduce yourselves. I am 20 years old. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:45 | |
-20. -I study civil engineering. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:48 | |
-I'm engaged. -Ooh! -I use a deodorant to make me feel confident, you know? | 0:49:48 | 0:49:54 | |
How do you... apply the deodorant? Do you mean to show it? Yes. | 0:49:54 | 0:50:01 | |
Aerosol. It's a spray, so I go like this. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:05 | |
Look at him! All over the place. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
Then I apply it on my body as well when I am going to play soccer. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:15 | |
'The test version of Axe. Has Ann correctly predicted their tastes?' | 0:50:15 | 0:50:20 | |
When I'm watching respondents in a focus group, I watch their faces | 0:50:23 | 0:50:28 | |
as well as anything else because their eyes and facial expressions | 0:50:28 | 0:50:34 | |
speak volumes about what their nose is perceiving. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:39 | |
TRANSLATION: I think it's very good. What does it make you think of? | 0:50:39 | 0:50:43 | |
It's a strong smell of flowers. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
I've tried some others and this is the best. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:52 | |
The best of all. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:54 | |
This is a type of deodorant that you can spray on your body. You don't need to wear perfume. | 0:50:54 | 0:51:01 | |
It's pleasant, it's good. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:03 | |
It reminds me of a pine fragrance. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:06 | |
It reminds me of... | 0:51:06 | 0:51:09 | |
LAUGHTER ..the guest bedroom, | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
the guest bedroom when you have, like, good soaps and flowers. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:17 | |
And it smells of woman, you know. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:21 | |
Of women. It's like a woman's perfume, woman's fragrance. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:25 | |
The other brands, I don't think construction workers could use, but not this one. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:31 | |
This one they would use. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:33 | |
That's interesting. I guess that's their idea of plumbers or something, right? | 0:51:34 | 0:51:41 | |
Cos I like chocolate. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
Because everyone likes chocolate. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
So... | 0:51:47 | 0:51:48 | |
They'll mix up the chocolate and my chocolate! | 0:51:48 | 0:51:53 | |
It smells of cocoanut. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
And I think of Malibu, the drink. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
You've made me so happy because this is the newest one and I'm so glad you liked it. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:13 | |
I heard that you thought that it smelled a little bit feminine. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:17 | |
Men's fragrances are going in that direction. But who said cocoanut? | 0:52:17 | 0:52:23 | |
There is. And you like chocolate, right? | 0:52:24 | 0:52:28 | |
It's sort of like the chocolate fragrance, where it's very yummy. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:33 | |
And the truth is that things that appeal to your mouth are sexy and they appeal to your nose, too. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:40 | |
That's what makes you think it's sexy. ..We had some concerns | 0:52:40 | 0:52:45 | |
about the fact that this was a brand-new fragrance and it was a little bit on the feminine side. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:51 | |
And so it was reassuring to hear that even though they perceived that, | 0:52:51 | 0:52:58 | |
it was fine. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:00 | |
What I also did find about this and it certainly plays into | 0:53:00 | 0:53:05 | |
my own knowledge of the Brazilians is they're happy. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:10 | |
And they sat here talking about fragrance in loving terms. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:14 | |
And that's exactly why I have such faith that this country | 0:53:14 | 0:53:19 | |
is going to just...fly ahead of everybody else in fragrance usage. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:24 | |
'Gottlieb heads home to make the spray even more of a must-have for these boys. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:31 | |
'Simon and Amanda's scents already enjoy must-have status in the Gulf States.' | 0:53:34 | 0:53:40 | |
We've been very fortunate. We've had lots of cover. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:44 | |
In this sort of magazine, there's a whole section dedicated to our launch in Qatar. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:51 | |
'Now the breeze has carried the heady fragrance into Central Asia.' | 0:53:51 | 0:53:57 | |
We have an order from Kazakhstan | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
and he had gone into Roja's perfumery | 0:54:00 | 0:54:05 | |
and seen our perfume, smelt it | 0:54:05 | 0:54:07 | |
and just thought it was stunning and sent me an email from Almaty in Kazakhstan. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:14 | |
And we'll ship out to Kazakhstan. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:17 | |
'His Victorian potions have served him well, but how long before Simon changes direction | 0:54:17 | 0:54:23 | |
'and makes something more modern?' | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
It's an aim of ours to innovate. We've got to innovate the business to keep it going. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:32 | |
Innovation means new perfumes, not just going to our back catalogue and taking, "Ah, this one was good. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:38 | |
"Let's have a go at that." | 0:54:38 | 0:54:41 | |
I don't think we'll be doing that with many of our... with many of our perfumes. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:46 | |
We will innovate and that'll be a big thing. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:51 | |
Will it be successful? Will it be liked? Will it... | 0:54:51 | 0:54:55 | |
Will it have the romance? | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
Good morning, everybody. And welcome. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:06 | |
I'd like to introduce Simon Brooke, who owns the House of Grossmith. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:10 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:12 | |
Thank you very much, Roja. And thank you very much, everybody, for coming along this morning. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:22 | |
'The Brookes face a challenge. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:26 | |
'Their lineage is their strength, but brands that are only about the past risk becoming museums. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:34 | |
'Simon and Amanda's next fragrances must nod to their antique heritage, | 0:55:38 | 0:55:43 | |
'but smell of the 21st century.' | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
We launched with three classic English perfumes. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:52 | |
Perfumes in the future, for us, | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
will be based on the original and then we go on this journey and we modernise. | 0:55:55 | 0:56:00 | |
You've got to think that the market, | 0:56:00 | 0:56:04 | |
you're creating something that you want to make people feel young. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:09 | |
You want to change their perception of their age. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:13 | |
And that's one of the obstacles, one of the hurdles | 0:56:13 | 0:56:17 | |
that we need to overcome, I think, a little bit in the UK. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:22 | |
'In New York, scent guru Ann Gottlieb is still hard at work on the Lynx account. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:34 | |
'Input of the Brazilian teenagers is reshaping the next version.' | 0:56:34 | 0:56:39 | |
A tremendous amount of work followed the trip to Brazil. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:44 | |
We were going for something that was a little richer and darker fragrance | 0:56:44 | 0:56:48 | |
and as a result of having the focus group opinions of all the people that we polled, | 0:56:48 | 0:56:55 | |
we've started adding more freshness to the fragrances, | 0:56:55 | 0:56:59 | |
a little bit of fruitiness. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:02 | |
What's true for Axe is being replicated across the fragrance industry. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:10 | |
What may have been businesses driven by the States or by Europe are going to be driven by China, | 0:57:13 | 0:57:19 | |
by Brazil, by India. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:21 | |
And marketers are gearing up for that. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:24 | |
And we're looking at a cultural shift right now. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:28 | |
So it may well be that tastes will shift and in ten years | 0:57:28 | 0:57:33 | |
we will be impacted by what the Chinese like. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:37 | |
The Western fragrance industry is trying to get to grips with the tastes of China, Brazil and India, | 0:57:40 | 0:57:47 | |
but how long before these new markets are doing it for themselves, | 0:57:47 | 0:57:51 | |
replacing the smell of perspiration with the sweet scent of aspiration? | 0:57:54 | 0:57:59 | |
Subtitles by Subtext for Red Bee Media Ltd - 2011 | 0:58:16 | 0:58:20 | |
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