Episode 2 Permission Impossible: Britain's Planners


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Planning battles are raging across Britain.

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-I love the countryside.

-So do I, mate, so leave it alone.

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I don't have time for NIMBYs.

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No to the student village!

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In a drive to boost the economy,

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the government has relaxed the planning laws.

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Here we are with a massive planning application.

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It is a big project.

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You're talking about 270 million of economic benefit.

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I mean, we like to see enterprise, but not on our doorstep.

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So developers are cashing in.

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Of course I'm here to make a buck.

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Guilty as charged.

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Objectors are going to war.

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It's not morally right, it's not socially right.

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Disgusting.

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And I'm not having that they were frightened of a bunch of pensioners.

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Deciding who wins are Britain's planners.

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I can't sit on the fence. It's not a fence, it's railings, basically.

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Tonight, a father makes the ultimate sacrifice to stop a development.

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The farmers don't want it, the neighbours don't want it.

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James would lay down in front of the first bulldozer that came along.

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Yeah.

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A new build spoils the view for a Cotswold resident.

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Is this serious? It's just like a Colditz watchtower

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that I've got to go to and stop at and show a pass to.

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And a planning consultant who has an unusual approach

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to winning over the planners.

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We can either get on or...or do it the hard way, I suppose.

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Across the UK, there are 60,000 acres of derelict industrial land

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that could accommodate 100,000 new houses.

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But building on green fields is cheaper,

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which makes our countryside appealing not just to the eye,

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but also to the pocket of the developers.

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Just having a tea.

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Right, who wants the mileage?

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In Cheshire, planners Jill Stephens and Nial Casselden

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are driving to the site of a proposed major housing scheme

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on the edge of Winsford.

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Winsford was sort of a fairly small mid-Cheshire town.

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But in the mid 20th century,

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they massively expanded it.

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It's kind of...it does have a bit of a feel of a new town to it

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with lots of roundabouts and dual carriageways in random places.

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But it's...uh!

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This proposed scheme will develop the last remaining green field

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within the town boundary.

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Well, this is a very pleasant country view, isn't it?

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With some four-legged animal.

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Are they cows over there? Horses?

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The site that we're talking about is here,

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so we've got these three fields

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with around 180 houses set around this open space in the middle.

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The owner of the field moved away and decided, rather than

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renting to farmers, they would offer it up to developers.

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The timing is right, as the Council has a target of 3,500 new houses

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to be built in the next four years.

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My trousers are probably falling down.

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The developers stand to make a profit of around £6 million

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from this scheme, but deciding whether the project should be

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recommended for approval will be down to the planners.

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I just stung myself on the nettles.

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That's the trouble with the countryside,

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it's full of things that want to sting you and bite you.

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This is actually a fence post knocker.

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You get a planner, you stand them up,

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you put that on their head and you go, "Bang, bang, bang!"

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Next to the field lives entrepreneur Robin Wood

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and his farm labourer son James.

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You see they look very calm and happy, happy cows, right.

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We haven't told them yet what's going to happen

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or what they're trying to do, so just keep your voice down, OK?

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That's Winsford over there and it has crept,

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we've always known that the creeping would continue

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and that the town would get nearer.

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But the farmers don't want it,

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the neighbours don't want it.

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James is saying that he would lay down in front of the first

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bulldozer that came along.

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This is rolling countryside.

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We're running out of it.

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Well done, ladies and gentlemen.

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Give them a round of applause, please.

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APPLAUSE

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Robin is gathering support from Winsford's rural neighbours

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in the village of Darnhall.

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MUSIC PLAYS

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They aren't too keen on Winsford expanding into the countryside.

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-We don't want no buggers spoiling it.

-Exactly right, exactly right, yeah.

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The problem is we've got greedy, opportunistic developers,

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so what we've got to do is find legal ways of stopping them.

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So touch wood!

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Poor old rat!

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Planner Jill will be making a recommendation

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on this scheme in 16 weeks.

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You can understand why someone wouldn't want a field

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behind their house being built on.

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But there's many housing sites that were once fields, you know,

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it's not my job to essentially protect someone's view.

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That's mine!

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Every new development in the UK attracts an average

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of 1.3 objections from members of the public.

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The most common reasons for objecting are loss of privacy

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and loss of visual amenity

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and it's down to the planners to investigate any complaint.

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Sarah and Adam McKenzie-Wylie were searching for the perfect place

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to live five years ago when they stumbled across Uley,

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a historical Cotswold village boasting numerous listed buildings,

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amongst them, this 1950s petrol station.

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We were looking for a plot

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and this was the closest to heaven we could find.

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After finding their plot, art gallery owner Sarah

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and marketing director Adam decided to move home, literally.

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They took down their 18th-century manor house

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in Wiltshire brick by brick,

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packed it and transported it across the Cotswolds

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to this corner of Gloucestershire.

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The builders took it down.

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They palleted it up, we stored it for what, a year, a year and a half

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and resurrected it here.

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It sounds pretty mad, but that's what we did.

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But another new building recently appeared

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on the other side of the valley, which stands to ruin the very view

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they moved their whole house to enjoy.

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A tree house.

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It's just hideous.

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When you drive into that and you see that, it's just like a kind of,

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a Colditz watchtower that I've got to go to and stop at

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and show a pass to.

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It's just totally incongruous.

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But Sarah and Adam don't just think the tree house

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looks like a watchtower.

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This is where we sunbathe, this is where the kids play on the lawn

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and...it does make me feel a bit uncomfortable.

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I mean, you really wouldn't want us to know he had binoculars in there.

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We're nearly there. In a few weeks, we should have it all done.

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We've even got a pair of binoculars here.

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Yes, they work very well, look at that!

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Just in case you're getting a little bit dry in the afternoon heat,

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you can pour yourself a little...snifter maybe.

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Dog kennel owner Terry Meredith

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built the tree house in his back garden

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to fulfil a childhood dream.

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And with his two grown-up sons

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and his five grandchildren visiting him occasionally,

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he also wants to use it as a family room.

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Everyone takes their turn in doing a little bit of cooking.

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We can all cook, it's very interactive.

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Of course, once we've prepared our meal and put our meal there,

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you lift it across on the laptray.

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There we are.

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Terry obtained planning permission for his tree house

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before he started building.

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Oh, for goodness' sake.

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But with the neighbours complaining about being overlooked,

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Head Planner Phil Skill is on his way to investigate.

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There we go. And there is the wonderful shed ahead!

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To me, it's... No, it's not something I would want.

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Not personally.

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Now, a Jacuzzi in a tree...

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I could do, I could live with that.

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Hi!

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They went that way.

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It will be down to Phil to decide who is right.

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The McKenzie-Wylies have complained that Terry's tree house

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overlooks their garden.

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This Council is listening to these people.

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Shame on your officer.

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OK, thank you.

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If he thinks they're right, he can enforce demolition.

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Can I rely upon your support?

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For the moment, yeah.

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-I've still got to think.

-OK.

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Why don't you just put your shoulders back, Mr Skill,

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I'll give you a handshake and I'll support you. Go on, please.

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I'm happy to help you as best I can with everything I can.

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-Thank you very much.

-Yeah.

-Thank you very much.

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You cannot be serious.

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'It does hurt, it hurts emotionally'

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to be stuck between these feuding individuals.

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Um... Cos I know there's no way that I can satisfy both sides.

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He's got a line of sight where he didn't have one before.

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This is the point.

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Phil Skill has said

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that he's going to make his judgment next week.

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I do feel we have a right to a bit of privacy.

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Here, we've got the wonderful views, the best views possibly in England.

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It is upsetting, it is annoying when people come along

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and try to take things away from you,

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but they'll never succeed because I deserve what I've got.

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No-one is going to take it away.

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I've had enough of it. Sorry.

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In the hope of obtaining planning permission, thousands of applicants

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across the UK are employing the services of the professionals.

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This is another one of my designs, which Steve just moved into,

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the client. I think another successful project.

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In Broxbourne, Hertfordshire,

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architect Dom Padalino not only designs bespoke homes,

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he also runs a successful planning consultancy business.

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He's not here at the moment, he's in a meeting.

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Can I take a message at all?

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The number of planning consultants has grown tenfold

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in the last 15 years.

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Using their in-depth knowledge of planning laws,

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they can work on the most diverse applications -

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from house extensions

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to multimillion-pound residential developments.

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All with one goal in mind -

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securing planning permission for their clients.

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Our success rate is generally 100%

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if you base it on the fact that you

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go back until you get your approval.

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Our reputation is based on success.

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You're only as good as your last job.

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I just wanted to give you a call. We went to committee last night

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and that was granted last night. OK?

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Excellent.

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What's the secret to success?

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I don't think I can tell you that.

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I'd be giving away my 28 years of experience here.

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What do you reckon?

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His charm, obviously.

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I'm his wife, I can't possibly say.

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His head will swell.

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With business booming,

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Dom is looking to expand his premises soon, but right now,

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he's concentrating on a client who is also looking for more space.

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Lavas' special is lamb ribs.

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Chicken shish, lamb shish and cocktails coming all together.

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What's your favourite one?

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I'm a vegetarian.

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No, I'm just joking.

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This former pub was converted into a Turkish restaurant four years ago.

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The owner spent £60,000 on the renovation,

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including an outside dining area.

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But he didn't take into account the miserable British weather.

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We have these lovely gardens here.

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Everybody comes here, "Oh, lovely gardens, lovely gardens."

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Lovely is not enough,

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we have to make the money.

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-England's weather is different, it's horrible.

-It's not like...?

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If this place was Turkey, I'd make a lot of money.

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Now, he's decided to put in a planning application

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to turn his outdoor space into a permanent inside dining area

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that can cater for big parties

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and he plans to do it all in time for Christmas.

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With just four months to go, he's hired Dom's services.

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It's not the nicest of settings to sit down and have something to eat.

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You've got some horrible metal gates.

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You've got a prefab fence over there.

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You've got the shabby sort of canopy.

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It probably cost quite a bit of money to do,

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but it's just not pretty, is it?

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I mean, it's a bit hard to find words really for this.

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I'm not sure what he was thinking at the time.

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The fountain might have to go.

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It might be a health and safety hazard, I would have thought.

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Well, that's what I'm going to tell the client. It's got to go.

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-Do you want to keep it in the extension?

-Yeah.

-Yeah? No.

-No.

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And if you've got children there and they fall in, it's dangerous.

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You've got to be careful. Very dangerous, yeah.

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Dom offers an all-inclusive service to his clients,

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from design to planning consent.

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I've just done some interiors,

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which you asked for, just to show you what at the moment,

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what this space could look like.

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-Yeah? With the roof lights... There's plenty of light.

-Lovely.

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The Council, have they seen this one?

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They haven't seen this drawing and to be fair,

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they don't really get excited about these types of drawing,

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because they're too busy worrying

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about...where the refuse goes, you know.

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ORHAN CHUCKLES

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With the new enclosed extension providing space for ten extra tables,

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the restaurant could double their earnings

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in the busy Christmas season.

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But the power to recommend approval or refusal for this application

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is in the hands of 28-year-old planner Vicky Carter.

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I listen to Radio 1 all the time.

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Quite a few planners in our office listen more to Radio 4.

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It's a bit intense, personally.

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Having received the restaurant's planning application,

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she's come for a site visit.

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They want a larger enclosed extension,

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which basically takes up the whole of this area.

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And then, coming out just a little bit

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so that they leave a smoking area,

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which they haven't got at the moment.

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Vicky now has three weeks to decide

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whether she wants to approve or refuse this application.

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It's nice, I might take a photo.

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I've probably seen ten to 15 planning officers come and go

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and I do remind them that I'll be here for years to come,

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so we can either get on or...or do it the hard way, I suppose.

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In Winsford, Cheshire, the time has come for another planner

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to reveal her recommendation on a proposal

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to build 184 new houses on this green field.

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The conclusion on this one is that,

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you know, on the balance of everything,

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it should be recommended for approval.

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This is a logical extension of Winsford, essentially.

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Good morning.

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It's bad news for the objectors, headed by entrepreneur Robin Wood.

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You see the horses there?

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Those horses there will be in the middle

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of a concrete jungle.

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There are times when I want to weep,

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most of the time, I'm just angry.

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-Hi!

-Good morning, sir!

-How are you doing?

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But there's still hope for these campaigners.

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Due to the scale of this project,

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it will be down to the nine elected members

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of the Strategic Planning Committee

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to decide if the scheme should be built.

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THEY CHUCKLE

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Where we are now on this site is just this corner here.

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Today's committee members, including a rock salt producer,

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a quality manager in an arms company

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and a primary school teacher,

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have come to assess the site for themselves.

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-Could you not just go and check?

-No.

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-The quality of the report.

-No.

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It's a field.

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-And it's got bulls in it.

-Yeah.

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I'm struggling to keep us all together today.

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On the day of the planning committee,

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it will be down to these members to decide on the fate of these fields.

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Oh, we've lost some.

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I'm looking at the Friesian cows

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and asked where the cows are going to go. You know, are they mobile cows?

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Chief protester Robin Wood thinks he's found an argument

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which will convince the councillors to refuse this application.

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Rambo, don't eat the cow muck, please. Rambo!

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-He's eating cow

-BLEEP!

-Yeah, very tasty.

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He's learned that Winsford Council is about to sign off

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its local neighbourhood plan,

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which identifies areas within the borough

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for new housing developments.

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And it doesn't include these fields.

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The Council have identified sites for 3,500 houses.

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And there is enough housing...

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There are enough brownfield sites locally

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to provide all of the housing needs that Winsford needs

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without impacting on open countryside like this.

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This is proper countryside.

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So...do you want to stop the dog rolling in the cow muck?

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That's what we do in the country.

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The dogs, you understand, not the people.

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At the Council offices, planner Jill's recommendation

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to approve has the backing of head planner Fiona Edwards.

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Although it's a green field site,

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it's adjacent to the settlement boundary

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and it's sustainable.

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So that's why we're recommending approval.

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When they meet tomorrow,

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these planning committee members will have the power

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to go against the planners' advice and refuse planning permission.

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But gym-fanatic Fiona would rather they didn't.

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I've been called a bully when I'm in planning committee

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trying to tell the members what I think they should be doing.

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But it's, it's my job.

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I'm a member of the Royal Town Planning Institute. That's what I have to do.

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That's what my code of conduct says I have to do.

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I have to stand my ground. I come to blows with the councillors quite often,

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but nobody goes away with a black eye.

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Not often, anyway.

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Hi, come on up!

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The night before the meeting, the objectors also get in a few rounds.

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I want to be a well-oiled machine by the time I actually get up to speak

0:19:560:20:01

as opposed to being well oiled, so...

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Cheers, good health, here's to tomorrow.

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News of Fiona's involvement has shaken the objectors' faith.

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I mean, as far as the planning officers are concerned,

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-it would be Fiona.

-Yeah.

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If the committee agree with you, and it shouldn't go ahead,

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that's not the end of the story.

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They have got to have some very sound reasons for refusing it.

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-So, as a Christian, I would suggest you pray.

-Yes.

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And I seriously suggest you pray.

0:20:310:20:33

Keep that elbow up.

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Good.

0:20:410:20:42

There are more than 20,000 town planners in the UK today.

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About 2,000 more are training to be the planners of the future

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in council offices across the land.

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In Broxbourne, Hertfordshire, 55-year-old Colin Free decided

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to retrain as a planner, after his printing business closed down.

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There's so much paperwork here.

0:21:140:21:17

Six years later he's still learning the ropes.

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-Badger Brock. Is it, Brock, or Bob?

-Bob.

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Bob The Badger.

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We're badger mad in Broxbourne.

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Just mad.

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HE CHUCKLES

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Today trainee planner Colin is about to meet an applicant

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who is seeking advice before submitting a planning application.

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The car, it sounds like a bag of nuts but a trainee's wages don't match

0:21:430:21:47

those of a principal officer's, that's for sure.

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You are the owner of the house?

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Sicilian born Calogero Ricotta wants to extend his semidetached house

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and is working with architectural technician, Carlo Bongiorno.

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So what we're looking at is a single-storey rear extension

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there and two storeys at the side of the main house, yeah? Okey-doke.

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But as Colin goes through the plans for the extension,

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he comes across a controversial design feature.

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Lead on, I don't want to end up in the bathroom by mistake.

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The proposed bedroom window would cause overlooking in the neighbour's garden.

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If necessary, we would ask for it to be obscure glazed.

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-We would prefer it not being obscured.

-Yeah, yeah.

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For obvious reasons, it's a bedroom.

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-But you're happy to go with that?

-Yeah.

-OK, OK.

0:22:440:22:48

-We'll be fair with this.

-I hope so, because it's nothing untoward.

0:22:480:22:52

No, no, I think we've reached a position

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of mutual agreement on this now.

0:22:550:22:58

OK, well, thanks very much.

0:22:580:23:00

-We will speak to you soon, yeah?

-Thanks a lot.

0:23:000:23:02

Carlo has taken Colin's advice and decided to

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submit his application with an obscured bedroom window.

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We've had some e-mails backwards and forwards

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with the planning department.

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We've come to a resolution which is something that will be approved.

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It was recommended by the office.

0:23:240:23:28

This should pass.

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But as soon as the application goes in,

0:23:390:23:41

Colin unearths a rather worrying document.

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There it is.

0:23:450:23:46

This is the refusal and appeal decision from 2010.

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The previous owner of the house made a similar application for an extension

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and Colin's solution to overlooking

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has already been rejected by a planning inspector.

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"The adjoining residence would still be aware of the presence

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"of persons in the first-floor bedroom and would endure the uncomfortable

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"and disconcerting perception of being overlooked

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"in such close proximity."

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What he's saying is even though the window may be obscured glazed,

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people would still be aware, particularly at night, obviously,

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of movement and the presence behind that obscured glazing.

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As he prepares to make his recommendation,

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Colin has to take guidance from previous rulings,

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especially when they were made by more experienced planners.

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In this case, he's left with no choice

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but to reject the application that he, himself, helped to prepare.

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We did have fairly extensive pre-application talks but,

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unfortunately, I'm still learning on the job.

0:24:500:24:53

Colin will have the unenviable task

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of breaking the news to the applicants.

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Also in Broxbourne,

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a planning application to double the size of a Turkish restaurant

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in the middle of a residential area

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is in the hands of planning consultant, Dom Padalino.

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I am personally responsible, probably for over 200 planning applications

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that have been approved in the last few years.

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When we submit an application,

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generally, we know that it's going to be approved.

0:25:250:25:29

We get on well with all the planners at Broxbourne

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and I regard them as colleagues, almost.

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We're on the phone nearly every day,

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the same as I am with my staff in the office.

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I'm just going to measure out the size of the smoking shelter.

0:25:400:25:44

The planner he will work with this time is 28-year-old, Vicky Carter.

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They're going to be increasing the capacity of this restaurant

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by another 60 or 70 people

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and you've only got a smoking area for four or five people.

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It's just not suitable.

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As it stands I will actually refuse it based on what

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they've actually given to us at the moment.

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CAR ALARM STARTS

0:26:060:26:07

Oh, great.

0:26:070:26:09

ALARM STOPS

0:26:110:26:12

Sorry. It hasn't done that for a while.

0:26:120:26:15

It's a set back for Dom but nothing he hasn't dealt with before.

0:26:150:26:18

His client wants to maximise the seating space,

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while the planners want to expand the smoking area.

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He's come up with a plan that he thinks will please both.

0:26:260:26:30

This area here is 7.5 square metres.

0:26:300:26:33

We've now increased it, we have now increased it

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-to double to 14 square metres.

-No.

0:26:350:26:38

Double is too much. I don't know why they're asking...

0:26:380:26:41

This is too much.

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Maybe what we can do is agree this and then we can change it afterwards.

0:26:420:26:46

If they agree all the extension and then we can move that wall

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-slightly over and say can we make a minor adjustment.

-Yeah.

0:26:490:26:53

It's the planning system,

0:26:530:26:55

it's the planning game.

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It's how you get what you want

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and then go back to the slight changes

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on what we originally wanted.

0:27:050:27:07

-Yeah?

-OK.

-It's just playing the system.

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Everyone's a winner.

0:27:130:27:15

Dom's strategy is not uncommon among planning consultants.

0:27:150:27:19

He wants the planners to give approval for the overall

0:27:190:27:21

scheme before debating minor details.

0:27:210:27:25

If we just make it slightly bigger then maybe we can try and push it.

0:27:250:27:30

Yeah? It's just a way we deal with the council.

0:27:300:27:34

-We give them what they want and then we take it back.

-Exactly!

-Yeah.

0:27:340:27:38

Time for Dom to put his plan into action.

0:27:390:27:42

-Hi, Vicky, how are you?

-I'm all right.

-Are you OK?

-Yeah, fine, thank you.

0:27:430:27:47

The law doesn't require restaurants to have a smoking area at all

0:27:470:27:50

but Dom's client wants to provide one for his customers.

0:27:500:27:53

Yeah, we quite like the fact that you're taking smokers

0:27:530:27:56

-off the high street.

-Mmm.

0:27:560:27:58

And, you know, they're not all standing outside his nice

0:27:580:28:01

-restaurant, smoking.

-Yeah.

0:28:010:28:03

We've also increased that from seven to 14 square metres

0:28:030:28:07

and that's how that item is dealt with, really.

0:28:070:28:12

-OK.

-If you need that wall pulled further back,

0:28:120:28:15

let us know and we'll tick the box.

0:28:150:28:17

Smoking areas are so difficult.

0:28:170:28:19

-We don't want to be too prescriptive and say it must be like this.

-Mmm.

0:28:190:28:23

-Erm...

-But we've also got to be minded, obviously,

0:28:230:28:25

it being an existing business and he's trying to sustain it,

0:28:250:28:28

we've got to be careful that he doesn't close the doors and we've got another empty unit.

0:28:280:28:32

-OK, then.

-Yeah?

-Thank you very much for that,

0:28:320:28:34

I appreciate you coming in and explaining that.

0:28:340:28:37

Yeah, you let me know and it'll be early next week

0:28:370:28:40

when we can put this to bed.

0:28:400:28:42

Having submitted new drawings,

0:28:450:28:46

all Dom has to do is wait for their approval.

0:28:460:28:49

It's genius, isn't it?

0:28:520:28:54

But there's tension on the Turkish restaurant's border.

0:28:580:29:01

The plans are causing civilian unrest.

0:29:010:29:04

Let's go and see what they're trying to get through this time.

0:29:040:29:08

Retired insurance executive, George Shiers

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has lived in Cheshunt for 40 years.

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What do you love about Cheshunt?

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Very little.

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All plans are available for residents to view at the local council's office.

0:29:200:29:25

George is against the expansion of the restaurant.

0:29:250:29:27

Hello.

0:29:270:29:28

And has been monitoring their planning applications.

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-I'll put a chair up and you can sit down.

-I'll put my brolly there.

0:29:310:29:34

If you can remind me of it

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because that's how I came by it in the first place!

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The new application has fired up this serial objector.

0:29:400:29:44

The only real change is the smoking area

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from 6.8 square metres to 13.4 square metres.

0:29:480:29:51

They're almost doubling it.

0:29:510:29:53

So if they're going to get double the amount of smokers in there,

0:29:530:29:57

the pollution is going to be twice as much.

0:29:570:30:00

I presume that, as the only significant change

0:30:000:30:04

is to comply with the requirements that the smoking area be increased,

0:30:040:30:10

it sounds to me like it's a done deal.

0:30:100:30:13

We shall see.

0:30:130:30:15

Pen to paper time.

0:30:150:30:17

-Thank you very much for your help.

-You're welcome.

-Thank you. Bye-bye.

0:30:170:30:21

-Bye-bye.

-Oh! You didn't remind me about my umbrella.

0:30:210:30:24

HE CHUCKLES

0:30:240:30:26

Ooh!

0:30:260:30:27

Ah, dear.

0:30:270:30:29

Just four miles up the road,

0:30:390:30:42

there are plans to build a rear extension to this suburban house.

0:30:420:30:46

Planning assistant Colin Free has advised the use of obscured glazing

0:30:470:30:51

to the proposed bedroom window to prevent overlooking,

0:30:510:30:54

before realising that a more experienced planner

0:30:540:30:57

rejected a similar solution three years before.

0:30:570:31:00

The inspector said there will be a fundamental fault

0:31:000:31:03

in your relationship between

0:31:030:31:05

the proposed house to nearby existing houses...

0:31:050:31:08

would not be satisfactorily resolved in this way,

0:31:080:31:10

by which he's referring to the proposal to fit obscured glazing.

0:31:100:31:14

Unaware of the inspector's previous ruling,

0:31:160:31:19

the owners decided to follow Colin's advice

0:31:190:31:21

and submitted their planning application.

0:31:210:31:23

They just can't have that window.

0:31:230:31:25

Not by council standards.

0:31:250:31:28

And that really is the crux of the matter,

0:31:280:31:31

and it will be the deciding factor, I feel, in this application.

0:31:310:31:35

I was taken aback a little bit by that

0:31:370:31:39

because, obviously, I wasn't the case officer.

0:31:390:31:42

I wasn't aware of it beforehand.

0:31:420:31:44

The time has now come for Colin to tell

0:31:480:31:50

applicants Mr Bongiorno and Mr Ricotta

0:31:500:31:53

that he had to turn down the application he helped them to draft.

0:31:530:31:57

This refusal will cost them their £172 application fee,

0:31:590:32:03

and they'll have to choose between appealing against the decision

0:32:030:32:06

or reapplying.

0:32:060:32:08

I got refused again.

0:32:080:32:11

I was actually expecting it to be approved,

0:32:110:32:13

-as per the recommendation that you were giving.

-That's right.

0:32:130:32:18

I thought we'd thrashed out an acceptable design

0:32:180:32:22

but an inspector has already said

0:32:220:32:26

that this first-floor window in this bedroom here

0:32:260:32:30

would cause an invasion of privacy at these houses.

0:32:300:32:34

But we indicated it would be obscured glazing.

0:32:340:32:37

But if you read the 2010 inspector's report,

0:32:370:32:40

he actually says "even with obscured glazing".

0:32:400:32:44

But during our pre-application and advice and all the correspondence

0:32:440:32:48

that went backwards and forwards, that wasn't pointed out.

0:32:480:32:51

I hoped that just by obscuring it, that would be sufficient.

0:32:510:32:54

It wasn't, I'm afraid.

0:32:540:32:56

In this case, probably my guidance was a little bit...

0:32:560:33:00

Perhaps I should have been stronger with you,

0:33:000:33:02

but that's why I'm still learning the game.

0:33:020:33:06

OK.

0:33:100:33:11

I can't turn the clock back. I can't change that decision.

0:33:110:33:14

All I can do is help and guide you in your way forward.

0:33:140:33:19

-We're not entirely happy.

-No, no...

0:33:230:33:26

-Not at all.

-No-one's ever happy.

0:33:260:33:28

-OK, then.

-OK.

0:33:280:33:30

-OK. Thanks very much.

-Thank you.

0:33:300:33:33

Have you locked us out?

0:33:370:33:39

COLIN LAUGHS

0:33:390:33:41

-Locked us in, rather.

-Do you think I'd lock myself in with

0:33:410:33:44

two people I've just refused an application for?

0:33:440:33:47

Over the years, I've built up quite a good relationship with Carlo

0:33:500:33:54

and that's the closest I've seen him to getting angry.

0:33:540:33:57

I can understand that.

0:33:570:33:59

If there was something trivial,

0:33:590:34:00

it would easily have been dealt with with a small amendment to the plan

0:34:000:34:04

and it could have just gone ahead. Now we've got to appeal

0:34:040:34:07

and re-apply, you know?

0:34:070:34:09

Complete waste of time.

0:34:090:34:12

It's all part of the learning process.

0:34:120:34:14

I came up against issues here that

0:34:140:34:17

I wouldn't necessarily have dealt with previously.

0:34:170:34:19

It's a matter of gaining experience.

0:34:190:34:22

That's all got filed away now

0:34:220:34:24

and next time I get an application that's similar,

0:34:240:34:27

I'll be able to weigh the issues up in a more objective way.

0:34:270:34:32

Colin may have struggled with this application

0:34:350:34:38

but he has plenty of other reasons to celebrate.

0:34:380:34:41

He has reached the end

0:34:410:34:42

of his six-year part-time course in town planning

0:34:420:34:45

and is finally graduating.

0:34:450:34:47

I've never even been to a graduation before.

0:34:470:34:51

And I never expected to be going to my own one.

0:34:510:34:53

Six years.

0:34:530:34:55

Six years.

0:34:550:34:56

Colin completed his university course

0:34:560:34:59

while working as a trainee planner.

0:34:590:35:01

Today, he brought his wife Gillian

0:35:010:35:03

and his children Kirsty and Elliott to the graduation ceremony.

0:35:030:35:07

I'm... I'm going to cry.

0:35:070:35:10

I'm really proud.

0:35:100:35:12

It's been hard work.

0:35:130:35:14

He's had to juggle work, a new career,

0:35:140:35:18

getting a degree, studying, with a family, and so,

0:35:180:35:22

yeah, we've got here, we've made it.

0:35:220:35:26

This is a special day to treasure as a memory,

0:35:290:35:32

got the photographs.

0:35:320:35:34

Hopefully inspire me onwards and upwards.

0:35:340:35:37

Well done...

0:35:390:35:40

As well as graduating,

0:35:400:35:42

Colin has also achieved an extra accolade -

0:35:420:35:46

the Outstanding Student of the Year award.

0:35:460:35:49

..Colin Free, excellent performance

0:35:490:35:53

in environmental planning. Colin.

0:35:530:35:56

It's usually a young planner.

0:36:030:36:05

Unfortunately, I gazumped all the youngsters this year.

0:36:050:36:09

For a young planner, 55, I've got 20 years ahead of me yet. So...

0:36:100:36:15

Does it make me look younger?

0:36:150:36:18

-Um...

-All right. It doesn't.

0:36:180:36:20

-You look very young.

-Thank you.

0:36:200:36:23

Over in Uley, Gloucestershire, the council's top planner

0:36:310:36:35

is due to decide whether a tree house should be taken down

0:36:350:36:39

after Sarah and Adam McKenzie-Wylie

0:36:390:36:41

complained it overlooks their garden.

0:36:410:36:43

That is a new building

0:36:430:36:45

that's been erected well above the height of all other buildings,

0:36:450:36:49

including his house, and it looks straight into our garden.

0:36:490:36:52

Having moved her own house here stone by stone to enjoy the views,

0:36:530:36:58

Sarah also thinks the new tree house isn't in keeping with the village.

0:36:580:37:03

Lovely shop. It's truly amazing.

0:37:040:37:07

Prince Charles came and opened it earlier this year.

0:37:070:37:10

It was very exciting.

0:37:100:37:12

What do you think he'd think of this?

0:37:120:37:14

He'd definitely call it a carbuncle, wouldn't he?

0:37:140:37:17

I think!

0:37:170:37:20

It actually looks like Disneyland.

0:37:200:37:22

Following the complaint, relations between Sarah

0:37:220:37:26

and tree house owner Terry have not been good.

0:37:260:37:28

There he was, the man himself.

0:37:280:37:30

She came into my car park, was shaking her fist and banging...

0:37:300:37:34

"You cannot be serious! You cannot be serious!"

0:37:340:37:38

He is the most repulsive man I have ever, ever met.

0:37:380:37:42

She said, "Welcome to Disney World!"

0:37:420:37:44

I thought, "I don't know what she's on about."

0:37:440:37:46

Half an hour, three-quarters of an hour later,

0:37:460:37:49

she was stood across the house there shouting at us.

0:37:490:37:51

She was shouting from across the valley.

0:37:510:37:54

HE SIGHS

0:37:540:37:56

Peep-peep!

0:37:590:38:02

Head planner Phil Skill is the man in charge

0:38:020:38:04

of making a decision on this case.

0:38:040:38:06

Welcome to my life.

0:38:060:38:08

Stuck between a rock and a hard place most of the time.

0:38:080:38:11

We've got to find the truth,

0:38:110:38:14

and is there any such thing as the truth?

0:38:140:38:16

We've got to find what is it that is correct about all this.

0:38:160:38:21

BOOMING NOTE

0:38:210:38:23

Phil's verdict has finally been delivered to Terry.

0:38:230:38:27

On my last visit to the site,

0:38:270:38:29

it was noted that there was a veranda, however, it is

0:38:290:38:33

not my intention at this time to issue an enforcement notice.

0:38:330:38:38

May I offer you the opportunity to submit a revised application

0:38:380:38:42

so that this omission can be considered by the council.

0:38:420:38:46

HE CHUCKLES

0:38:460:38:48

Pretty fantastic, that is, so we are very happy bunnies.

0:38:480:38:51

Every council in the UK has a maximum distance

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between buildings where overlooking is considered a planning issue.

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In Wrexham, for example, it's 22m. In Peterborough, it's 27.

0:39:000:39:05

Terry's tree house is far beyond any English council regulation.

0:39:050:39:10

From our point of view, it's nearly half a kilometre

0:39:110:39:14

to the neighbouring properties,

0:39:140:39:16

and therefore, there shouldn't be any issue about overlooking

0:39:160:39:20

and overbearing.

0:39:200:39:22

It's just not in that sort of field.

0:39:220:39:25

It's bad news for the McKenzie-Wylies.

0:39:270:39:30

I know that we're over 500m away

0:39:310:39:34

but with a pair of binoculars you could easily see,

0:39:340:39:36

and I do feel it does have an overbearing effect.

0:39:360:39:39

In my view - total nonsense. The council have got it wrong.

0:39:390:39:43

With his tree house now safe, Terry can add some finishing touches.

0:39:430:39:48

One's Sarah and one's Adam.

0:39:480:39:50

It's just names we thought of...really.

0:39:500:39:53

When there's a neighbour dispute, planning is their weapon of choice.

0:39:550:39:59

It's the blunt stick that they use to beat each other up with.

0:39:590:40:03

And unfortunately, I look like a blunt stick.

0:40:030:40:06

I just sometimes wish that I was a masochist

0:40:060:40:09

so that I would actually enjoy the beating up.

0:40:090:40:12

Adam and Sarah will be looking out across the valley that way,

0:40:120:40:15

guarding us from evil spirits

0:40:150:40:18

from the northern direction of the valley.

0:40:180:40:21

The best we could hope for is we have a big storm like we had

0:40:220:40:25

three weeks ago. Maybe we won't have to worry about it.

0:40:250:40:28

Maybe God will tear it down. Who knows?

0:40:280:40:31

-You look smart.

-Thank you. Thank you very much.

0:40:390:40:43

Over in Broxbourne, Hertfordshire,

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the first application to extend this Turkish restaurant

0:40:450:40:49

was knocked back by the council,

0:40:490:40:51

but that didn't faze veteran planning consultant Dom Padalino.

0:40:510:40:55

He moved a wall, on paper at least, and resubmitted the plans.

0:40:550:40:59

Planning is a game

0:41:010:41:03

and over the years, I've got better at playing that game.

0:41:030:41:05

And, ultimately,

0:41:080:41:10

we end up winning quite a lot of games.

0:41:100:41:13

You know, to be successful, you need to be a winner

0:41:130:41:16

and if you are a loser,

0:41:160:41:18

you get eaten up by the winners,

0:41:180:41:21

and the planners will also eat you up.

0:41:210:41:24

Dom may be confident, but since planner Vicky Carter

0:41:260:41:29

published his drawings on the council's website,

0:41:290:41:32

they've not been popular with the restaurant's neighbours.

0:41:320:41:35

We had over 20 objections to this planning application.

0:41:350:41:40

More people, more noise, more disturbance.

0:41:400:41:44

Completely valid reasons to object to a planning application.

0:41:440:41:48

Hello! Hello, hello, hello! How are you?

0:41:480:41:50

The restaurant's neighbours may be united against this application,

0:41:540:41:58

but Dom has every confidence his scheme will work.

0:41:580:42:01

I don't have time for NIMBYs

0:42:020:42:05

because there is no pleasing certain NIMBYs.

0:42:050:42:08

From a planning point of view,

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we ticked the boxes.

0:42:100:42:12

So they can delay the process of planning,

0:42:120:42:15

I don't think they ever stop it.

0:42:150:42:18

I think it's just a distraction, unfortunately.

0:42:180:42:20

But it's planner Vicky's duty to visit the objectors

0:42:230:42:26

and investigate their issues.

0:42:260:42:29

George Shiers moved to the area when the restaurant was still a pub,

0:42:290:42:32

40 years ago.

0:42:320:42:34

-Good morning.

-Good morning. Hi, I'm Vicky Carter

0:42:350:42:38

-from the planning section.

-Are you really?

-Yeah.

0:42:380:42:41

-Do you mind if we come in?

-Come in.

-Thank you very much.

0:42:410:42:44

I don't know whether you are aware of this,

0:42:460:42:49

but there's overkill of these catering outlets.

0:42:490:42:53

It's absolute maniacal that you should be allowing people

0:42:530:42:57

to increase this sort of venture.

0:42:570:42:59

That area was originally a pub.

0:42:590:43:02

Your council has turned it into a rowdy nightspot

0:43:020:43:06

with excessive amounts of noise,

0:43:060:43:09

and whilst we have got very superior double glazing fitted recently,

0:43:090:43:14

when people drink, they get loud. They get louder.

0:43:140:43:19

-Hmm. And then your other issue was odour?

-Yes.

-Smells from...

0:43:190:43:24

-The smells from the cooking.

-..the cooking.

-Yeah.

0:43:240:43:27

It is a restaurant.

0:43:270:43:29

-I can understand...

-But we were here long before that became a restaurant.

0:43:290:43:34

But not the pub. It's gone from a pub to a restaurant.

0:43:340:43:38

I know. But the pub, as it was, when we came here,

0:43:380:43:42

if you wanted any food,

0:43:420:43:44

you could have any flavour of crisps you wanted.

0:43:440:43:47

Hmm. Unfortunately...

0:43:470:43:49

Unfortunately, I'm a member of the public

0:43:490:43:53

and it doesn't matter what I think.

0:43:530:43:56

-OK. Right, OK.

-What you should do is refund all my council tax

0:43:560:44:01

-to fund my move to somewhere else.

-OK.

0:44:010:44:05

I think George has got major issues with the restaurant.

0:44:060:44:09

I don't think it would matter what restaurant would go in there,

0:44:090:44:12

what they would do to it.

0:44:120:44:14

I think he's always going to have problems

0:44:140:44:16

but our job is not just to protect residents

0:44:160:44:18

but to also support local businesses and our town centres.

0:44:180:44:22

George's objections haven't impressed planner Vicky,

0:44:220:44:25

but just above the restaurant lives objector Lina Viatkiniene.

0:44:250:44:29

Hello. Hi. Is it Lina?

0:44:290:44:31

..who moved to the UK from Lithuania in 2005.

0:44:310:44:34

Lina thinks that expanding the restaurant would be

0:44:340:44:37

the wrong thing to do.

0:44:370:44:39

That restaurant, according to the... What are they called?

0:44:390:44:44

..land register, they have access only for deliveries.

0:44:440:44:48

So, are you concerned about people using the restaurant parking here

0:44:480:44:52

-and walking in this way?

-Yes, even now, they use it,

0:44:520:44:55

because even now, they block in our cars.

0:44:550:44:57

When you want to go out,

0:44:570:44:59

you sit in a car 15 minutes waiting...

0:44:590:45:02

For them to get potential restaurant people to come?

0:45:020:45:05

-Rubbish. Another thing.

-Rubbish.

0:45:050:45:07

Summer time, they are always open.

0:45:070:45:10

-So there's odour?

-Flies, odour...

0:45:100:45:12

So we are all not happy with the parking, with the rubbish,

0:45:120:45:15

with the smell, with the noise, with everything that, you know...

0:45:150:45:18

After speaking to the objectors,

0:45:200:45:22

Vicky is looking at this planning application from a new perspective.

0:45:220:45:26

There are a few possible problems with the application

0:45:260:45:29

resulting from these discussions.

0:45:290:45:31

I think we might have to go back to the agent

0:45:310:45:34

and seek some amendments.

0:45:340:45:36

The neighbours are concerned

0:45:370:45:39

but I'm slightly disappointed that the planners have taken it on board,

0:45:390:45:43

which is a slight concern, rather than looking at the facts.

0:45:430:45:47

Vicky's now requested a complete overhaul of the plans,

0:45:470:45:50

including the relocation of the smoking area,

0:45:500:45:53

and a dedicated space for the refuse bins.

0:45:530:45:56

We've had to compromise

0:45:560:45:59

due to the issues that have arisen from the neighbours.

0:45:590:46:03

You can't stop people objecting.

0:46:030:46:05

Years ago, we used to go down to the planning office

0:46:050:46:08

and study drawings, and obviously having computer access

0:46:080:46:12

makes life a lot easier for these people

0:46:120:46:15

to access and view. There's not a lot we can do.

0:46:150:46:18

We can't switch off people's computers.

0:46:180:46:20

It takes up to eight weeks

0:46:220:46:24

for planners to consider every new application,

0:46:240:46:27

which means that if Dom's next submission isn't successful,

0:46:270:46:30

his client won't be able to get the extension

0:46:300:46:34

built in time for Christmas.

0:46:340:46:36

This is definitely the last opportunity for the agents

0:46:360:46:38

to actually submit an application that works, basically.

0:46:380:46:43

In Winsford, Cheshire,

0:46:560:46:58

there's a proposal to build 184 new houses on this green field.

0:46:580:47:02

Today, the planning committee will meet to decide

0:47:020:47:05

whether to approve or refuse it.

0:47:050:47:07

But developers can count on the backing of

0:47:070:47:10

the council's top planner.

0:47:100:47:11

Greenfield sites are easier to do

0:47:110:47:14

and inevitably developers are in this game for making a profit.

0:47:140:47:17

They wouldn't do it otherwise.

0:47:170:47:19

From our point of view,

0:47:190:47:21

although brown field is a preferable alternative,

0:47:210:47:23

it's not a must. If it's sustainable and there are no other issues,

0:47:230:47:26

we have no choice, as officers, but other than to recommend approval.

0:47:260:47:30

But it could be a Government act that saves this green field.

0:47:320:47:35

Thanks to the Localism Act of 2011,

0:47:350:47:38

all communities now have a say about the planning of their town.

0:47:380:47:43

In Winsford, the local neighbourhood plan has already identified

0:47:440:47:48

land for 3,500 new homes elsewhere.

0:47:480:47:51

Chief objector Robin Wood thinks this will be his killer argument.

0:47:510:47:57

It's going to be a measured speech,

0:47:570:47:59

every word articulated and enunciated,

0:47:590:48:03

like a laser going straight to the heart...

0:48:030:48:06

..of the planning committee.

0:48:080:48:09

Robin hopes the scheme will fall flat on its face,

0:48:110:48:14

just like he did in the run-up to committee day.

0:48:140:48:17

Perhaps they'll have some sympathy with you on crutches, Robin.

0:48:170:48:20

Good!

0:48:200:48:22

I'm not proud.

0:48:220:48:25

At a full council chamber,

0:48:300:48:32

Robin gets to put his case to the nine committee members.

0:48:320:48:37

CRUTCHES CLATTER LOUDLY

0:48:370:48:40

Let me say straightaway that the Winsford neighbourhood plan

0:48:420:48:46

has already identified close to our target of 3,500 houses,

0:48:460:48:51

and which does not include this site.

0:48:510:48:54

We therefore believe that it is completely inappropriate

0:48:540:48:58

to even consider a development like this on greenfield land

0:48:580:49:02

which is currently used for farming and food production.

0:49:020:49:05

Thank you.

0:49:050:49:07

APPLAUSE

0:49:070:49:09

Having pocketed a recommendation for approval from the planners,

0:49:090:49:13

the developers' agent is speaking next.

0:49:130:49:16

The officers' report comprehensively addresses

0:49:160:49:19

all the material considerations.

0:49:190:49:21

We are thankful... We thank the officers for their hard work

0:49:210:49:24

and we are very grateful for the recommendation for approval.

0:49:240:49:28

The development will not result in any adverse impacts

0:49:280:49:31

and it will deliver a wide range of benefits,

0:49:310:49:33

which should be afforded significant weight.

0:49:330:49:36

I would like to thank you for your time

0:49:360:49:37

and respectfully request members to support this planning application

0:49:370:49:41

and resolve to grant planning permission

0:49:410:49:43

in line with your officers' recommendation. Thank you.

0:49:430:49:45

Thank you.

0:49:450:49:47

I'd like to open the debate straightaway to members on this.

0:49:470:49:51

We in fact visited this site

0:49:510:49:53

and I was struck by the nature of the green fields.

0:49:530:49:57

They were truly green.

0:49:570:50:00

And I think that were we forced, bludgeoned by officers...

0:50:000:50:07

Don't tempt me.

0:50:070:50:09

..to adopt this.

0:50:090:50:11

People would bear in mind that book, How Green Was My Valley.

0:50:110:50:17

LAUGHTER

0:50:170:50:20

Good start.

0:50:200:50:22

I think this is just too far.

0:50:220:50:24

This is a green site,

0:50:240:50:26

it's best and most versatile agricultural land...

0:50:260:50:29

As the debate starts, it looks like

0:50:290:50:32

the councillors want to save this green field.

0:50:320:50:35

But to go against development, they must find a sound planning reason,

0:50:350:50:39

one that head planner Fiona feels can be defended

0:50:390:50:42

if an appeal is lodged.

0:50:420:50:45

If you try refusing it on DS5, open countryside,

0:50:450:50:48

you will not sustain that. We've seen that time and time again.

0:50:480:50:51

We could say something like, "This is a greenfield site,"

0:50:510:50:54

or something along those lines?

0:50:540:50:56

WOMAN: She says no. >

0:50:560:50:58

Chairman, we've had numerous appeal decisions,

0:50:580:51:03

and time and time and time again,

0:51:030:51:06

we've failed to justify this committee's reasons for refusal,

0:51:060:51:10

and we are faced with significant cost implications

0:51:100:51:15

as a result of those decisions.

0:51:150:51:17

I'm yet to hear from members why this site is not sustainable.

0:51:170:51:22

-That's incorrect. You've only said...

-Chairman!

-Excuse me.

0:51:220:51:26

Finally, one councillor decides on a change of tactic

0:51:260:51:30

and puts forward objector Robin's argument.

0:51:300:51:33

We've been running the Winsford neighbour plan

0:51:330:51:36

for the last two years.

0:51:360:51:37

We have identified land for 3,500 to 3,600 houses.

0:51:370:51:43

This has come outside of it.

0:51:430:51:46

Councillor Clarke believes the local neighbourhood plan

0:51:460:51:49

will protect greenfield sites such as this.

0:51:490:51:52

Chairman, once again...

0:51:530:51:55

I'm sorry to keep doing this,

0:51:550:51:57

but neighbourhood plan hasn't been through examination

0:51:570:52:00

so we are still at relatively early stages

0:52:000:52:02

in terms of the weight that you can give them.

0:52:020:52:05

Fiona is still not convinced this argument would stand up at appeal

0:52:050:52:08

but the councillors are determined to try and save the green field.

0:52:080:52:12

I have to say that if the law is that you've got to allow everything,

0:52:120:52:17

then why are we all sitting here?

0:52:170:52:20

We, as an authority, are encouraging neighbourhood plans

0:52:210:52:25

but are we listening to them?

0:52:250:52:27

Because, obviously, I don't think we are here.

0:52:270:52:30

I'll still move the recommendation for refusal.

0:52:300:52:33

APPLAUSE

0:52:330:52:36

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Please.

0:52:410:52:43

Can we go to the vote, please?

0:52:430:52:45

All those in favour of refusal please show.

0:52:450:52:48

That's unanimous. Clearly carried, thank you.

0:52:500:52:53

APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

0:52:530:52:55

After a 45-minute debate,

0:52:550:52:57

the councillors finally get their way -

0:52:570:52:59

the green field won't be built on.

0:52:590:53:01

-Well done.

-Thank you very much.

0:53:020:53:05

-She wants slapping down, doesn't she?

-I know.

0:53:050:53:08

Does that mean we can go now?

0:53:080:53:10

We're absolutely thrilled. We're absolutely thrilled.

0:53:100:53:13

I think it's been a great result.

0:53:130:53:15

I think the councillors weren't going to be pushed around

0:53:150:53:18

by planning law, they were just going to go for it, and they did.

0:53:180:53:22

I think the public sector needs to remember their place.

0:53:220:53:24

I mean, they're meant to be serving us.

0:53:240:53:26

They're meant to be serving the committee members

0:53:260:53:29

and trying to help them, and she didn't do that.

0:53:290:53:31

I think it was absolutely appalling. It's a disgrace.

0:53:310:53:34

She was on the verge of bullying them, but they wouldn't be bullied.

0:53:340:53:38

Good for them.

0:53:380:53:40

I'm going to have a quiet beer...

0:53:420:53:44

followed by lots of noisy ones.

0:53:440:53:46

Good night.

0:53:470:53:49

They don't HAVE to listen to me.

0:53:510:53:52

It's my job to try and get them to come to what I consider

0:53:520:53:56

the right planning decision, but they decided to run with it,

0:53:560:53:59

but the likely outcome is, we'll end up in an appeal situation

0:53:590:54:03

with what I have to say is

0:54:030:54:06

a very difficult reason for refusal to defend.

0:54:060:54:10

I became incensed when somebody keeps telling me,

0:54:100:54:13

"You cannot do this," and, "You cannot do that."

0:54:130:54:15

It's our town.

0:54:150:54:17

Good night.

0:54:170:54:19

180 miles south in Broxbourne, local objectors

0:54:290:54:33

have managed to slow down the progress of an application

0:54:330:54:36

to extend this Turkish restaurant.

0:54:360:54:38

I've had applications that have gone for quite some time,

0:54:380:54:41

different amended plans, different re-consults with neighbours,

0:54:410:54:44

for seven days. I've never had an application go on for this long.

0:54:440:54:48

We've had so many plans now to try and make it work,

0:54:480:54:51

it has become a little bit of a mess, really.

0:54:510:54:54

Still trying to get the extension built by Christmas,

0:54:560:54:59

veteran planning consultant Dom Padalino has come

0:54:590:55:02

to re-draw the application for the fourth time.

0:55:020:55:05

Careful...

0:55:050:55:06

Sorry?

0:55:060:55:09

You almost hit the dog.

0:55:090:55:11

(He was in the road, wasn't he?)

0:55:130:55:15

After 16 weeks of unproductive work,

0:55:160:55:18

Dom believes he's finally found a scheme

0:55:180:55:21

which is going to silence the locals and the planners.

0:55:210:55:24

The pen is certainly mightier than the sword in my case.

0:55:240:55:27

It's very rare that we have to use the sword.

0:55:270:55:30

Dom has moved the smoking area to the far side,

0:55:320:55:35

which he believes will address the noise and the access issues,

0:55:350:55:39

and also make room for the refuse bins,

0:55:390:55:42

so his client can look forward to a busy Christmas season.

0:55:420:55:45

The winter time is coming.

0:55:450:55:48

I hope, this time, everything is ready.

0:55:480:55:52

But Christmas time comes,

0:55:590:56:01

and there's not much room at the inn.

0:56:010:56:03

The extension hasn't been approved.

0:56:030:56:05

Environmental health do have some issues with the smoking shelter

0:56:100:56:13

being on that western side,

0:56:130:56:15

mainly because it's completely contained,

0:56:150:56:17

so the smoking shelter hasn't got enough room, really,

0:56:170:56:21

for the smoke to infiltrate into the air.

0:56:210:56:24

He's been trying to make it work by just doing small tweaks

0:56:250:56:29

here and there and, unfortunately, the small tweaks just aren't enough.

0:56:290:56:33

Dom will get another chance to submit his plans

0:56:330:56:36

in the new year, but he's failed to deliver this project on time,

0:56:360:56:40

which has dented his 100% approval record.

0:56:400:56:44

I'm not sure if we'll get a card from Dom this year.

0:56:440:56:47

You never know, we might be on his Christmas list.

0:56:470:56:49

I very much doubt it.

0:56:490:56:51

We've got a few left over

0:56:510:56:53

so we'll send them out to the planners.

0:56:530:56:56

Dom may have missed his Christmas deadline,

0:57:000:57:03

but he's still working on the ultimate solution

0:57:030:57:05

for the smoking area.

0:57:050:57:06

We had designed the smoking shelter and I remember at the outset

0:57:060:57:10

that the planners actually told us that they

0:57:100:57:12

thought the smoking shelter was too small.

0:57:120:57:14

So then we increased it.

0:57:140:57:16

We were then told it was going to cause problems to the neighbours,

0:57:160:57:20

so we then moved it.

0:57:200:57:21

And we've now got rid of it.

0:57:210:57:24

So, by taking, literally, the label off the drawing,

0:57:240:57:27

and call it an outside terrace,

0:57:270:57:29

we resolved that problem.

0:57:290:57:32

Don't worry. We are still young.

0:57:340:57:36

We have this a long time and we can wait.

0:57:360:57:40

Next time - one couple expose their bold plan

0:57:490:57:53

to stop a development...

0:57:530:57:55

We are both naturists,

0:57:550:57:57

and it you want to sell it, it may put off prospective buyers.

0:57:570:58:02

..residents are pushed to the limit...

0:58:020:58:05

If it goes against us, I'll probably kill somebody.

0:58:050:58:08

..and objectors to a block of flats tell the architect where to go.

0:58:080:58:12

Between the Gherkin and The Shard, it'd look lovely.

0:58:120:58:15

Not on a nice little corner.

0:58:150:58:17

It don't need something like that there.

0:58:170:58:20

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