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Planning battles are raging across Britain. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
-I love the countryside. -So do I, mate, so leave it alone. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
I don't have time for NIMBYs. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
No to the student village! | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
In a drive to boost the economy, | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
the government has relaxed the planning laws. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
Here we are with a massive planning application. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
It is a big project. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:20 | |
You're talking about 270 million of economic benefit. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
I mean, we like to see enterprise, but not on our doorstep. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
So developers are cashing in. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
Of course I'm here to make a buck. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
Guilty as charged. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:32 | |
Objectors are going to war. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
It's not morally right, it's not socially right. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
Disgusting. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
And I'm not having that they were frightened of a bunch of pensioners. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
Deciding who wins are Britain's planners. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
I can't sit on the fence. It's not a fence, it's railings, basically. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
Tonight, a father makes the ultimate sacrifice to stop a development. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:03 | |
The farmers don't want it, the neighbours don't want it. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
James would lay down in front of the first bulldozer that came along. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
Yeah. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:12 | |
A new build spoils the view for a Cotswold resident. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
Is this serious? It's just like a Colditz watchtower | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
that I've got to go to and stop at and show a pass to. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
And a planning consultant who has an unusual approach | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
to winning over the planners. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
We can either get on or...or do it the hard way, I suppose. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
Across the UK, there are 60,000 acres of derelict industrial land | 0:01:38 | 0:01:44 | |
that could accommodate 100,000 new houses. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
But building on green fields is cheaper, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
which makes our countryside appealing not just to the eye, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
but also to the pocket of the developers. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
Just having a tea. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
Right, who wants the mileage? | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
In Cheshire, planners Jill Stephens and Nial Casselden | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
are driving to the site of a proposed major housing scheme | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
on the edge of Winsford. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
Winsford was sort of a fairly small mid-Cheshire town. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
But in the mid 20th century, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
they massively expanded it. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
It's kind of...it does have a bit of a feel of a new town to it | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
with lots of roundabouts and dual carriageways in random places. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:34 | |
But it's...uh! | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
This proposed scheme will develop the last remaining green field | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
within the town boundary. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
Well, this is a very pleasant country view, isn't it? | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
With some four-legged animal. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
Are they cows over there? Horses? | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
The site that we're talking about is here, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
so we've got these three fields | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
with around 180 houses set around this open space in the middle. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:04 | |
The owner of the field moved away and decided, rather than | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
renting to farmers, they would offer it up to developers. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
The timing is right, as the Council has a target of 3,500 new houses | 0:03:11 | 0:03:16 | |
to be built in the next four years. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
My trousers are probably falling down. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
The developers stand to make a profit of around £6 million | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
from this scheme, but deciding whether the project should be | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
recommended for approval will be down to the planners. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
I just stung myself on the nettles. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:36 | |
That's the trouble with the countryside, | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
it's full of things that want to sting you and bite you. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
This is actually a fence post knocker. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
You get a planner, you stand them up, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
you put that on their head and you go, "Bang, bang, bang!" | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
Next to the field lives entrepreneur Robin Wood | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
and his farm labourer son James. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
You see they look very calm and happy, happy cows, right. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
We haven't told them yet what's going to happen | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
or what they're trying to do, so just keep your voice down, OK? | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
That's Winsford over there and it has crept, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
we've always known that the creeping would continue | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
and that the town would get nearer. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
But the farmers don't want it, | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
the neighbours don't want it. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
James is saying that he would lay down in front of the first | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
bulldozer that came along. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:29 | |
This is rolling countryside. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
We're running out of it. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
Well done, ladies and gentlemen. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:36 | |
Give them a round of applause, please. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
Robin is gathering support from Winsford's rural neighbours | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
in the village of Darnhall. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:46 | |
MUSIC PLAYS | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
They aren't too keen on Winsford expanding into the countryside. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:54 | |
-We don't want no buggers spoiling it. -Exactly right, exactly right, yeah. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
The problem is we've got greedy, opportunistic developers, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:03 | |
so what we've got to do is find legal ways of stopping them. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
So touch wood! | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
Poor old rat! | 0:05:08 | 0:05:09 | |
Planner Jill will be making a recommendation | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
on this scheme in 16 weeks. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
You can understand why someone wouldn't want a field | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
behind their house being built on. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
But there's many housing sites that were once fields, you know, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
it's not my job to essentially protect someone's view. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
That's mine! | 0:05:31 | 0:05:32 | |
Every new development in the UK attracts an average | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
of 1.3 objections from members of the public. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
The most common reasons for objecting are loss of privacy | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
and loss of visual amenity | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
and it's down to the planners to investigate any complaint. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
Sarah and Adam McKenzie-Wylie were searching for the perfect place | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
to live five years ago when they stumbled across Uley, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
a historical Cotswold village boasting numerous listed buildings, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:15 | |
amongst them, this 1950s petrol station. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
We were looking for a plot | 0:06:20 | 0:06:21 | |
and this was the closest to heaven we could find. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:26 | |
After finding their plot, art gallery owner Sarah | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
and marketing director Adam decided to move home, literally. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:35 | |
They took down their 18th-century manor house | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
in Wiltshire brick by brick, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
packed it and transported it across the Cotswolds | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
to this corner of Gloucestershire. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
The builders took it down. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
They palleted it up, we stored it for what, a year, a year and a half | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
and resurrected it here. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
It sounds pretty mad, but that's what we did. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
But another new building recently appeared | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
on the other side of the valley, which stands to ruin the very view | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
they moved their whole house to enjoy. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
A tree house. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
It's just hideous. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:07 | |
When you drive into that and you see that, it's just like a kind of, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
a Colditz watchtower that I've got to go to and stop at | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
and show a pass to. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
It's just totally incongruous. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
But Sarah and Adam don't just think the tree house | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
looks like a watchtower. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
This is where we sunbathe, this is where the kids play on the lawn | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
and...it does make me feel a bit uncomfortable. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
I mean, you really wouldn't want us to know he had binoculars in there. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
We're nearly there. In a few weeks, we should have it all done. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
We've even got a pair of binoculars here. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:41 | |
Yes, they work very well, look at that! | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
Just in case you're getting a little bit dry in the afternoon heat, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
you can pour yourself a little...snifter maybe. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
Dog kennel owner Terry Meredith | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
built the tree house in his back garden | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
to fulfil a childhood dream. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
And with his two grown-up sons | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
and his five grandchildren visiting him occasionally, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
he also wants to use it as a family room. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
Everyone takes their turn in doing a little bit of cooking. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
We can all cook, it's very interactive. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
Of course, once we've prepared our meal and put our meal there, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
you lift it across on the laptray. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
There we are. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
Terry obtained planning permission for his tree house | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
before he started building. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
Oh, for goodness' sake. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
But with the neighbours complaining about being overlooked, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
Head Planner Phil Skill is on his way to investigate. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
There we go. And there is the wonderful shed ahead! | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
To me, it's... No, it's not something I would want. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
Not personally. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:49 | |
Now, a Jacuzzi in a tree... | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
I could do, I could live with that. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
Hi! | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
They went that way. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
It will be down to Phil to decide who is right. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
The McKenzie-Wylies have complained that Terry's tree house | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
overlooks their garden. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
This Council is listening to these people. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
Shame on your officer. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
OK, thank you. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
If he thinks they're right, he can enforce demolition. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
Can I rely upon your support? | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
For the moment, yeah. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:27 | |
-I've still got to think. -OK. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
Why don't you just put your shoulders back, Mr Skill, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
I'll give you a handshake and I'll support you. Go on, please. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
I'm happy to help you as best I can with everything I can. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
-Thank you very much. -Yeah. -Thank you very much. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
You cannot be serious. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
'It does hurt, it hurts emotionally' | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
to be stuck between these feuding individuals. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:57 | |
Um... Cos I know there's no way that I can satisfy both sides. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
He's got a line of sight where he didn't have one before. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
This is the point. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:05 | |
Phil Skill has said | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
that he's going to make his judgment next week. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:12 | |
I do feel we have a right to a bit of privacy. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
Here, we've got the wonderful views, the best views possibly in England. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
It is upsetting, it is annoying when people come along | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
and try to take things away from you, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
but they'll never succeed because I deserve what I've got. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
No-one is going to take it away. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
I've had enough of it. Sorry. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
In the hope of obtaining planning permission, thousands of applicants | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
across the UK are employing the services of the professionals. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
This is another one of my designs, which Steve just moved into, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
the client. I think another successful project. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
In Broxbourne, Hertfordshire, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
architect Dom Padalino not only designs bespoke homes, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
he also runs a successful planning consultancy business. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
He's not here at the moment, he's in a meeting. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
Can I take a message at all? | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
The number of planning consultants has grown tenfold | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
in the last 15 years. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
Using their in-depth knowledge of planning laws, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
they can work on the most diverse applications - | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
from house extensions | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
to multimillion-pound residential developments. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
All with one goal in mind - | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
securing planning permission for their clients. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
Our success rate is generally 100% | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
if you base it on the fact that you | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
go back until you get your approval. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
Our reputation is based on success. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
You're only as good as your last job. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
I just wanted to give you a call. We went to committee last night | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
and that was granted last night. OK? | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
Excellent. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
What's the secret to success? | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
I don't think I can tell you that. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
I'd be giving away my 28 years of experience here. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
What do you reckon? | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
His charm, obviously. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:08 | |
I'm his wife, I can't possibly say. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
His head will swell. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
With business booming, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
Dom is looking to expand his premises soon, but right now, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
he's concentrating on a client who is also looking for more space. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
Lavas' special is lamb ribs. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
Chicken shish, lamb shish and cocktails coming all together. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
What's your favourite one? | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
I'm a vegetarian. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
No, I'm just joking. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
This former pub was converted into a Turkish restaurant four years ago. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:45 | |
The owner spent £60,000 on the renovation, | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
including an outside dining area. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
But he didn't take into account the miserable British weather. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:56 | |
We have these lovely gardens here. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
Everybody comes here, "Oh, lovely gardens, lovely gardens." | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
Lovely is not enough, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
we have to make the money. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
-England's weather is different, it's horrible. -It's not like...? | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
If this place was Turkey, I'd make a lot of money. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
Now, he's decided to put in a planning application | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
to turn his outdoor space into a permanent inside dining area | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
that can cater for big parties | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
and he plans to do it all in time for Christmas. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
With just four months to go, he's hired Dom's services. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
It's not the nicest of settings to sit down and have something to eat. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:37 | |
You've got some horrible metal gates. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
You've got a prefab fence over there. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
You've got the shabby sort of canopy. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
It probably cost quite a bit of money to do, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
but it's just not pretty, is it? | 0:13:49 | 0:13:50 | |
I mean, it's a bit hard to find words really for this. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
I'm not sure what he was thinking at the time. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
The fountain might have to go. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
It might be a health and safety hazard, I would have thought. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:03 | |
Well, that's what I'm going to tell the client. It's got to go. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
-Do you want to keep it in the extension? -Yeah. -Yeah? No. -No. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:16 | |
And if you've got children there and they fall in, it's dangerous. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
You've got to be careful. Very dangerous, yeah. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
Dom offers an all-inclusive service to his clients, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
from design to planning consent. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
I've just done some interiors, | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
which you asked for, just to show you what at the moment, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
what this space could look like. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
-Yeah? With the roof lights... There's plenty of light. -Lovely. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
The Council, have they seen this one? | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
They haven't seen this drawing and to be fair, | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
they don't really get excited about these types of drawing, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
because they're too busy worrying | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
about...where the refuse goes, you know. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
ORHAN CHUCKLES | 0:14:57 | 0:14:58 | |
With the new enclosed extension providing space for ten extra tables, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
the restaurant could double their earnings | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
in the busy Christmas season. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
But the power to recommend approval or refusal for this application | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
is in the hands of 28-year-old planner Vicky Carter. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
I listen to Radio 1 all the time. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
Quite a few planners in our office listen more to Radio 4. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:22 | |
It's a bit intense, personally. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
Having received the restaurant's planning application, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
she's come for a site visit. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:29 | |
They want a larger enclosed extension, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
which basically takes up the whole of this area. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
And then, coming out just a little bit | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
so that they leave a smoking area, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
which they haven't got at the moment. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
Vicky now has three weeks to decide | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
whether she wants to approve or refuse this application. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
It's nice, I might take a photo. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
I've probably seen ten to 15 planning officers come and go | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
and I do remind them that I'll be here for years to come, | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
so we can either get on or...or do it the hard way, I suppose. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:08 | |
In Winsford, Cheshire, the time has come for another planner | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
to reveal her recommendation on a proposal | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
to build 184 new houses on this green field. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
The conclusion on this one is that, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
you know, on the balance of everything, | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
it should be recommended for approval. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
This is a logical extension of Winsford, essentially. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
Good morning. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
It's bad news for the objectors, headed by entrepreneur Robin Wood. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
You see the horses there? | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
Those horses there will be in the middle | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
of a concrete jungle. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
There are times when I want to weep, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
most of the time, I'm just angry. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
-Hi! -Good morning, sir! -How are you doing? | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
But there's still hope for these campaigners. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
Due to the scale of this project, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
it will be down to the nine elected members | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
of the Strategic Planning Committee | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
to decide if the scheme should be built. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
THEY CHUCKLE | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
Where we are now on this site is just this corner here. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
Today's committee members, including a rock salt producer, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
a quality manager in an arms company | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
and a primary school teacher, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
have come to assess the site for themselves. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
-Could you not just go and check? -No. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
-The quality of the report. -No. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
It's a field. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
-And it's got bulls in it. -Yeah. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
I'm struggling to keep us all together today. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
On the day of the planning committee, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
it will be down to these members to decide on the fate of these fields. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
Oh, we've lost some. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:51 | |
I'm looking at the Friesian cows | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
and asked where the cows are going to go. You know, are they mobile cows? | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
Chief protester Robin Wood thinks he's found an argument | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
which will convince the councillors to refuse this application. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
Rambo, don't eat the cow muck, please. Rambo! | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
-He's eating cow -BLEEP! -Yeah, very tasty. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
He's learned that Winsford Council is about to sign off | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
its local neighbourhood plan, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
which identifies areas within the borough | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
for new housing developments. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:27 | |
And it doesn't include these fields. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
The Council have identified sites for 3,500 houses. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:36 | |
And there is enough housing... | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
There are enough brownfield sites locally | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
to provide all of the housing needs that Winsford needs | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
without impacting on open countryside like this. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
This is proper countryside. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
So...do you want to stop the dog rolling in the cow muck? | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
That's what we do in the country. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
The dogs, you understand, not the people. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
At the Council offices, planner Jill's recommendation | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
to approve has the backing of head planner Fiona Edwards. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
Although it's a green field site, | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
it's adjacent to the settlement boundary | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
and it's sustainable. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
So that's why we're recommending approval. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
When they meet tomorrow, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:17 | |
these planning committee members will have the power | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
to go against the planners' advice and refuse planning permission. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
But gym-fanatic Fiona would rather they didn't. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
I've been called a bully when I'm in planning committee | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
trying to tell the members what I think they should be doing. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
But it's, it's my job. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
I'm a member of the Royal Town Planning Institute. That's what I have to do. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
That's what my code of conduct says I have to do. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
I have to stand my ground. I come to blows with the councillors quite often, | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
but nobody goes away with a black eye. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
Not often, anyway. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:49 | |
Hi, come on up! | 0:19:50 | 0:19:51 | |
The night before the meeting, the objectors also get in a few rounds. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:56 | |
I want to be a well-oiled machine by the time I actually get up to speak | 0:19:56 | 0:20:01 | |
as opposed to being well oiled, so... | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
Cheers, good health, here's to tomorrow. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
News of Fiona's involvement has shaken the objectors' faith. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
I mean, as far as the planning officers are concerned, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
-it would be Fiona. -Yeah. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
If the committee agree with you, and it shouldn't go ahead, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
that's not the end of the story. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
They have got to have some very sound reasons for refusing it. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
-So, as a Christian, I would suggest you pray. -Yes. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
And I seriously suggest you pray. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
Keep that elbow up. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
Good. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:42 | |
There are more than 20,000 town planners in the UK today. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
About 2,000 more are training to be the planners of the future | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
in council offices across the land. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
In Broxbourne, Hertfordshire, 55-year-old Colin Free decided | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
to retrain as a planner, after his printing business closed down. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
There's so much paperwork here. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
Six years later he's still learning the ropes. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
-Badger Brock. Is it, Brock, or Bob? -Bob. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
Bob The Badger. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
We're badger mad in Broxbourne. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
Just mad. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:31 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
Today trainee planner Colin is about to meet an applicant | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
who is seeking advice before submitting a planning application. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
The car, it sounds like a bag of nuts but a trainee's wages don't match | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
those of a principal officer's, that's for sure. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
You are the owner of the house? | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
Sicilian born Calogero Ricotta wants to extend his semidetached house | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
and is working with architectural technician, Carlo Bongiorno. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
So what we're looking at is a single-storey rear extension | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
there and two storeys at the side of the main house, yeah? Okey-doke. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:13 | |
But as Colin goes through the plans for the extension, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
he comes across a controversial design feature. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
Lead on, I don't want to end up in the bathroom by mistake. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
The proposed bedroom window would cause overlooking in the neighbour's garden. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:30 | |
If necessary, we would ask for it to be obscure glazed. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:39 | |
-We would prefer it not being obscured. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
For obvious reasons, it's a bedroom. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
-But you're happy to go with that? -Yeah. -OK, OK. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
-We'll be fair with this. -I hope so, because it's nothing untoward. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
No, no, I think we've reached a position | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
of mutual agreement on this now. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
OK, well, thanks very much. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
-We will speak to you soon, yeah? -Thanks a lot. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
Carlo has taken Colin's advice and decided to | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
submit his application with an obscured bedroom window. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
We've had some e-mails backwards and forwards | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
with the planning department. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
We've come to a resolution which is something that will be approved. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:23 | |
It was recommended by the office. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
This should pass. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:29 | |
But as soon as the application goes in, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
Colin unearths a rather worrying document. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
There it is. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:46 | |
This is the refusal and appeal decision from 2010. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:51 | |
The previous owner of the house made a similar application for an extension | 0:23:51 | 0:23:57 | |
and Colin's solution to overlooking | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
has already been rejected by a planning inspector. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
"The adjoining residence would still be aware of the presence | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
"of persons in the first-floor bedroom and would endure the uncomfortable | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
"and disconcerting perception of being overlooked | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
"in such close proximity." | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
What he's saying is even though the window may be obscured glazed, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
people would still be aware, particularly at night, obviously, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
of movement and the presence behind that obscured glazing. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
As he prepares to make his recommendation, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
Colin has to take guidance from previous rulings, | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
especially when they were made by more experienced planners. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
In this case, he's left with no choice | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
but to reject the application that he, himself, helped to prepare. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
We did have fairly extensive pre-application talks but, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
unfortunately, I'm still learning on the job. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
Colin will have the unenviable task | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
of breaking the news to the applicants. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
Also in Broxbourne, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
a planning application to double the size of a Turkish restaurant | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
in the middle of a residential area | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
is in the hands of planning consultant, Dom Padalino. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
I am personally responsible, probably for over 200 planning applications | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
that have been approved in the last few years. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
When we submit an application, | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
generally, we know that it's going to be approved. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
We get on well with all the planners at Broxbourne | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
and I regard them as colleagues, almost. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
We're on the phone nearly every day, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
the same as I am with my staff in the office. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
I'm just going to measure out the size of the smoking shelter. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
The planner he will work with this time is 28-year-old, Vicky Carter. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:50 | |
They're going to be increasing the capacity of this restaurant | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
by another 60 or 70 people | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
and you've only got a smoking area for four or five people. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
It's just not suitable. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
As it stands I will actually refuse it based on what | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
they've actually given to us at the moment. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
CAR ALARM STARTS | 0:26:06 | 0:26:07 | |
Oh, great. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
ALARM STOPS | 0:26:11 | 0:26:12 | |
Sorry. It hasn't done that for a while. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
It's a set back for Dom but nothing he hasn't dealt with before. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
His client wants to maximise the seating space, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
while the planners want to expand the smoking area. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
He's come up with a plan that he thinks will please both. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
This area here is 7.5 square metres. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
We've now increased it, we have now increased it | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
-to double to 14 square metres. -No. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
Double is too much. I don't know why they're asking... | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
This is too much. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:42 | |
Maybe what we can do is agree this and then we can change it afterwards. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
If they agree all the extension and then we can move that wall | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
-slightly over and say can we make a minor adjustment. -Yeah. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
It's the planning system, | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
it's the planning game. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
It's how you get what you want | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
and then go back to the slight changes | 0:27:00 | 0:27:05 | |
on what we originally wanted. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
-Yeah? -OK. -It's just playing the system. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
Everyone's a winner. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
Dom's strategy is not uncommon among planning consultants. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
He wants the planners to give approval for the overall | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
scheme before debating minor details. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
If we just make it slightly bigger then maybe we can try and push it. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:30 | |
Yeah? It's just a way we deal with the council. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:34 | |
-We give them what they want and then we take it back. -Exactly! -Yeah. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
Time for Dom to put his plan into action. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
-Hi, Vicky, how are you? -I'm all right. -Are you OK? -Yeah, fine, thank you. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
The law doesn't require restaurants to have a smoking area at all | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
but Dom's client wants to provide one for his customers. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
Yeah, we quite like the fact that you're taking smokers | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
-off the high street. -Mmm. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
And, you know, they're not all standing outside his nice | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
-restaurant, smoking. -Yeah. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
We've also increased that from seven to 14 square metres | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
and that's how that item is dealt with, really. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:12 | |
-OK. -If you need that wall pulled further back, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
let us know and we'll tick the box. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
Smoking areas are so difficult. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
-We don't want to be too prescriptive and say it must be like this. -Mmm. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
-Erm... -But we've also got to be minded, obviously, | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
it being an existing business and he's trying to sustain it, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
we've got to be careful that he doesn't close the doors and we've got another empty unit. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
-OK, then. -Yeah? -Thank you very much for that, | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
I appreciate you coming in and explaining that. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
Yeah, you let me know and it'll be early next week | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
when we can put this to bed. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
Having submitted new drawings, | 0:28:45 | 0:28:46 | |
all Dom has to do is wait for their approval. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
It's genius, isn't it? | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
But there's tension on the Turkish restaurant's border. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
The plans are causing civilian unrest. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
Let's go and see what they're trying to get through this time. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
Retired insurance executive, George Shiers | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
has lived in Cheshunt for 40 years. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
What do you love about Cheshunt? | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
Very little. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
All plans are available for residents to view at the local council's office. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:25 | |
George is against the expansion of the restaurant. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
Hello. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:28 | |
And has been monitoring their planning applications. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
-I'll put a chair up and you can sit down. -I'll put my brolly there. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
If you can remind me of it | 0:29:34 | 0:29:35 | |
because that's how I came by it in the first place! | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
The new application has fired up this serial objector. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
The only real change is the smoking area | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
from 6.8 square metres to 13.4 square metres. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
They're almost doubling it. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
So if they're going to get double the amount of smokers in there, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
the pollution is going to be twice as much. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
I presume that, as the only significant change | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
is to comply with the requirements that the smoking area be increased, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:10 | |
it sounds to me like it's a done deal. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
We shall see. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
Pen to paper time. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:17 | |
-Thank you very much for your help. -You're welcome. -Thank you. Bye-bye. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
-Bye-bye. -Oh! You didn't remind me about my umbrella. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
Ooh! | 0:30:26 | 0:30:27 | |
Ah, dear. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
Just four miles up the road, | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
there are plans to build a rear extension to this suburban house. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
Planning assistant Colin Free has advised the use of obscured glazing | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
to the proposed bedroom window to prevent overlooking, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
before realising that a more experienced planner | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
rejected a similar solution three years before. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
The inspector said there will be a fundamental fault | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
in your relationship between | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
the proposed house to nearby existing houses... | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
would not be satisfactorily resolved in this way, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
by which he's referring to the proposal to fit obscured glazing. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
Unaware of the inspector's previous ruling, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
the owners decided to follow Colin's advice | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
and submitted their planning application. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
They just can't have that window. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
Not by council standards. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
And that really is the crux of the matter, | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
and it will be the deciding factor, I feel, in this application. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
I was taken aback a little bit by that | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
because, obviously, I wasn't the case officer. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
I wasn't aware of it beforehand. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
The time has now come for Colin to tell | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
applicants Mr Bongiorno and Mr Ricotta | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
that he had to turn down the application he helped them to draft. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:57 | |
This refusal will cost them their £172 application fee, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
and they'll have to choose between appealing against the decision | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
or reapplying. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
I got refused again. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
I was actually expecting it to be approved, | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
-as per the recommendation that you were giving. -That's right. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:18 | |
I thought we'd thrashed out an acceptable design | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
but an inspector has already said | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
that this first-floor window in this bedroom here | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
would cause an invasion of privacy at these houses. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
But we indicated it would be obscured glazing. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
But if you read the 2010 inspector's report, | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
he actually says "even with obscured glazing". | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
But during our pre-application and advice and all the correspondence | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
that went backwards and forwards, that wasn't pointed out. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
I hoped that just by obscuring it, that would be sufficient. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
It wasn't, I'm afraid. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
In this case, probably my guidance was a little bit... | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
Perhaps I should have been stronger with you, | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
but that's why I'm still learning the game. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
OK. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:11 | |
I can't turn the clock back. I can't change that decision. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
All I can do is help and guide you in your way forward. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:19 | |
-We're not entirely happy. -No, no... | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
-Not at all. -No-one's ever happy. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
-OK, then. -OK. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
-OK. Thanks very much. -Thank you. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
Have you locked us out? | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
COLIN LAUGHS | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
-Locked us in, rather. -Do you think I'd lock myself in with | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
two people I've just refused an application for? | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
Over the years, I've built up quite a good relationship with Carlo | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
and that's the closest I've seen him to getting angry. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
I can understand that. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
If there was something trivial, | 0:33:59 | 0:34:00 | |
it would easily have been dealt with with a small amendment to the plan | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
and it could have just gone ahead. Now we've got to appeal | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
and re-apply, you know? | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
Complete waste of time. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
It's all part of the learning process. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
I came up against issues here that | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
I wouldn't necessarily have dealt with previously. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
It's a matter of gaining experience. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
That's all got filed away now | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
and next time I get an application that's similar, | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
I'll be able to weigh the issues up in a more objective way. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:32 | |
Colin may have struggled with this application | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
but he has plenty of other reasons to celebrate. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
He has reached the end | 0:34:41 | 0:34:42 | |
of his six-year part-time course in town planning | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
and is finally graduating. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
I've never even been to a graduation before. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
And I never expected to be going to my own one. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
Six years. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
Six years. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:56 | |
Colin completed his university course | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
while working as a trainee planner. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
Today, he brought his wife Gillian | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
and his children Kirsty and Elliott to the graduation ceremony. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
I'm... I'm going to cry. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
I'm really proud. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
It's been hard work. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:14 | |
He's had to juggle work, a new career, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
getting a degree, studying, with a family, and so, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
yeah, we've got here, we've made it. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
This is a special day to treasure as a memory, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
got the photographs. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
Hopefully inspire me onwards and upwards. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
Well done... | 0:35:39 | 0:35:40 | |
As well as graduating, | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
Colin has also achieved an extra accolade - | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
the Outstanding Student of the Year award. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
..Colin Free, excellent performance | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
in environmental planning. Colin. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
It's usually a young planner. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
Unfortunately, I gazumped all the youngsters this year. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
For a young planner, 55, I've got 20 years ahead of me yet. So... | 0:36:10 | 0:36:15 | |
Does it make me look younger? | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
-Um... -All right. It doesn't. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
-You look very young. -Thank you. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
Over in Uley, Gloucestershire, the council's top planner | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
is due to decide whether a tree house should be taken down | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
after Sarah and Adam McKenzie-Wylie | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
complained it overlooks their garden. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
That is a new building | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
that's been erected well above the height of all other buildings, | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
including his house, and it looks straight into our garden. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
Having moved her own house here stone by stone to enjoy the views, | 0:36:53 | 0:36:58 | |
Sarah also thinks the new tree house isn't in keeping with the village. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:03 | |
Lovely shop. It's truly amazing. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
Prince Charles came and opened it earlier this year. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
It was very exciting. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
What do you think he'd think of this? | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
He'd definitely call it a carbuncle, wouldn't he? | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
I think! | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
It actually looks like Disneyland. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
Following the complaint, relations between Sarah | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
and tree house owner Terry have not been good. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
There he was, the man himself. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
She came into my car park, was shaking her fist and banging... | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
"You cannot be serious! You cannot be serious!" | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
He is the most repulsive man I have ever, ever met. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
She said, "Welcome to Disney World!" | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
I thought, "I don't know what she's on about." | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
Half an hour, three-quarters of an hour later, | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
she was stood across the house there shouting at us. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
She was shouting from across the valley. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
HE SIGHS | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
Peep-peep! | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
Head planner Phil Skill is the man in charge | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
of making a decision on this case. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
Welcome to my life. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
Stuck between a rock and a hard place most of the time. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
We've got to find the truth, | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
and is there any such thing as the truth? | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
We've got to find what is it that is correct about all this. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:21 | |
BOOMING NOTE | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
Phil's verdict has finally been delivered to Terry. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
On my last visit to the site, | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
it was noted that there was a veranda, however, it is | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
not my intention at this time to issue an enforcement notice. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:38 | |
May I offer you the opportunity to submit a revised application | 0:38:38 | 0:38:42 | |
so that this omission can be considered by the council. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
Pretty fantastic, that is, so we are very happy bunnies. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
Every council in the UK has a maximum distance | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
between buildings where overlooking is considered a planning issue. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
In Wrexham, for example, it's 22m. In Peterborough, it's 27. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:05 | |
Terry's tree house is far beyond any English council regulation. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:10 | |
From our point of view, it's nearly half a kilometre | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
to the neighbouring properties, | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
and therefore, there shouldn't be any issue about overlooking | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
and overbearing. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
It's just not in that sort of field. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
It's bad news for the McKenzie-Wylies. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
I know that we're over 500m away | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
but with a pair of binoculars you could easily see, | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
and I do feel it does have an overbearing effect. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
In my view - total nonsense. The council have got it wrong. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
With his tree house now safe, Terry can add some finishing touches. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:48 | |
One's Sarah and one's Adam. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
It's just names we thought of...really. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
When there's a neighbour dispute, planning is their weapon of choice. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
It's the blunt stick that they use to beat each other up with. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
And unfortunately, I look like a blunt stick. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
I just sometimes wish that I was a masochist | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
so that I would actually enjoy the beating up. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
Adam and Sarah will be looking out across the valley that way, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
guarding us from evil spirits | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
from the northern direction of the valley. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
The best we could hope for is we have a big storm like we had | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
three weeks ago. Maybe we won't have to worry about it. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
Maybe God will tear it down. Who knows? | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
-You look smart. -Thank you. Thank you very much. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
Over in Broxbourne, Hertfordshire, | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
the first application to extend this Turkish restaurant | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
was knocked back by the council, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
but that didn't faze veteran planning consultant Dom Padalino. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:55 | |
He moved a wall, on paper at least, and resubmitted the plans. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
Planning is a game | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
and over the years, I've got better at playing that game. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
And, ultimately, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
we end up winning quite a lot of games. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
You know, to be successful, you need to be a winner | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
and if you are a loser, | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
you get eaten up by the winners, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
and the planners will also eat you up. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
Dom may be confident, but since planner Vicky Carter | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
published his drawings on the council's website, | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
they've not been popular with the restaurant's neighbours. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
We had over 20 objections to this planning application. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:40 | |
More people, more noise, more disturbance. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
Completely valid reasons to object to a planning application. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
Hello! Hello, hello, hello! How are you? | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
The restaurant's neighbours may be united against this application, | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
but Dom has every confidence his scheme will work. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
I don't have time for NIMBYs | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
because there is no pleasing certain NIMBYs. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
From a planning point of view, | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
we ticked the boxes. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
So they can delay the process of planning, | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
I don't think they ever stop it. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
I think it's just a distraction, unfortunately. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
But it's planner Vicky's duty to visit the objectors | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
and investigate their issues. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
George Shiers moved to the area when the restaurant was still a pub, | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
40 years ago. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
-Good morning. -Good morning. Hi, I'm Vicky Carter | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
-from the planning section. -Are you really? -Yeah. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
-Do you mind if we come in? -Come in. -Thank you very much. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
I don't know whether you are aware of this, | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
but there's overkill of these catering outlets. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
It's absolute maniacal that you should be allowing people | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
to increase this sort of venture. | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
That area was originally a pub. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
Your council has turned it into a rowdy nightspot | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
with excessive amounts of noise, | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
and whilst we have got very superior double glazing fitted recently, | 0:43:09 | 0:43:14 | |
when people drink, they get loud. They get louder. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:19 | |
-Hmm. And then your other issue was odour? -Yes. -Smells from... | 0:43:19 | 0:43:24 | |
-The smells from the cooking. -..the cooking. -Yeah. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
It is a restaurant. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
-I can understand... -But we were here long before that became a restaurant. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:34 | |
But not the pub. It's gone from a pub to a restaurant. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
I know. But the pub, as it was, when we came here, | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
if you wanted any food, | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
you could have any flavour of crisps you wanted. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
Hmm. Unfortunately... | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
Unfortunately, I'm a member of the public | 0:43:49 | 0:43:53 | |
and it doesn't matter what I think. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
-OK. Right, OK. -What you should do is refund all my council tax | 0:43:56 | 0:44:01 | |
-to fund my move to somewhere else. -OK. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:05 | |
I think George has got major issues with the restaurant. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:09 | |
I don't think it would matter what restaurant would go in there, | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
what they would do to it. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:14 | |
I think he's always going to have problems | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
but our job is not just to protect residents | 0:44:16 | 0:44:18 | |
but to also support local businesses and our town centres. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:22 | |
George's objections haven't impressed planner Vicky, | 0:44:22 | 0:44:25 | |
but just above the restaurant lives objector Lina Viatkiniene. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:29 | |
Hello. Hi. Is it Lina? | 0:44:29 | 0:44:31 | |
..who moved to the UK from Lithuania in 2005. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
Lina thinks that expanding the restaurant would be | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
the wrong thing to do. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:39 | |
That restaurant, according to the... What are they called? | 0:44:39 | 0:44:44 | |
..land register, they have access only for deliveries. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:48 | |
So, are you concerned about people using the restaurant parking here | 0:44:48 | 0:44:52 | |
-and walking in this way? -Yes, even now, they use it, | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
because even now, they block in our cars. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
When you want to go out, | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
you sit in a car 15 minutes waiting... | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
For them to get potential restaurant people to come? | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
-Rubbish. Another thing. -Rubbish. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
Summer time, they are always open. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
-So there's odour? -Flies, odour... | 0:45:10 | 0:45:12 | |
So we are all not happy with the parking, with the rubbish, | 0:45:12 | 0:45:15 | |
with the smell, with the noise, with everything that, you know... | 0:45:15 | 0:45:18 | |
After speaking to the objectors, | 0:45:20 | 0:45:22 | |
Vicky is looking at this planning application from a new perspective. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:26 | |
There are a few possible problems with the application | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
resulting from these discussions. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:31 | |
I think we might have to go back to the agent | 0:45:31 | 0:45:34 | |
and seek some amendments. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
The neighbours are concerned | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
but I'm slightly disappointed that the planners have taken it on board, | 0:45:39 | 0:45:43 | |
which is a slight concern, rather than looking at the facts. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:47 | |
Vicky's now requested a complete overhaul of the plans, | 0:45:47 | 0:45:50 | |
including the relocation of the smoking area, | 0:45:50 | 0:45:53 | |
and a dedicated space for the refuse bins. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:56 | |
We've had to compromise | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
due to the issues that have arisen from the neighbours. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:03 | |
You can't stop people objecting. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:05 | |
Years ago, we used to go down to the planning office | 0:46:05 | 0:46:08 | |
and study drawings, and obviously having computer access | 0:46:08 | 0:46:12 | |
makes life a lot easier for these people | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
to access and view. There's not a lot we can do. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:18 | |
We can't switch off people's computers. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:20 | |
It takes up to eight weeks | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
for planners to consider every new application, | 0:46:24 | 0:46:27 | |
which means that if Dom's next submission isn't successful, | 0:46:27 | 0:46:30 | |
his client won't be able to get the extension | 0:46:30 | 0:46:34 | |
built in time for Christmas. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:36 | |
This is definitely the last opportunity for the agents | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
to actually submit an application that works, basically. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:43 | |
In Winsford, Cheshire, | 0:46:56 | 0:46:58 | |
there's a proposal to build 184 new houses on this green field. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:02 | |
Today, the planning committee will meet to decide | 0:47:02 | 0:47:05 | |
whether to approve or refuse it. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
But developers can count on the backing of | 0:47:07 | 0:47:10 | |
the council's top planner. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:11 | |
Greenfield sites are easier to do | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
and inevitably developers are in this game for making a profit. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
They wouldn't do it otherwise. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:19 | |
From our point of view, | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
although brown field is a preferable alternative, | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
it's not a must. If it's sustainable and there are no other issues, | 0:47:23 | 0:47:26 | |
we have no choice, as officers, but other than to recommend approval. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:30 | |
But it could be a Government act that saves this green field. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:35 | |
Thanks to the Localism Act of 2011, | 0:47:35 | 0:47:38 | |
all communities now have a say about the planning of their town. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:43 | |
In Winsford, the local neighbourhood plan has already identified | 0:47:44 | 0:47:48 | |
land for 3,500 new homes elsewhere. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
Chief objector Robin Wood thinks this will be his killer argument. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:57 | |
It's going to be a measured speech, | 0:47:57 | 0:47:59 | |
every word articulated and enunciated, | 0:47:59 | 0:48:03 | |
like a laser going straight to the heart... | 0:48:03 | 0:48:06 | |
..of the planning committee. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:09 | |
Robin hopes the scheme will fall flat on its face, | 0:48:11 | 0:48:14 | |
just like he did in the run-up to committee day. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
Perhaps they'll have some sympathy with you on crutches, Robin. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
Good! | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
I'm not proud. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:25 | |
At a full council chamber, | 0:48:30 | 0:48:32 | |
Robin gets to put his case to the nine committee members. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:37 | |
CRUTCHES CLATTER LOUDLY | 0:48:37 | 0:48:40 | |
Let me say straightaway that the Winsford neighbourhood plan | 0:48:42 | 0:48:46 | |
has already identified close to our target of 3,500 houses, | 0:48:46 | 0:48:51 | |
and which does not include this site. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:54 | |
We therefore believe that it is completely inappropriate | 0:48:54 | 0:48:58 | |
to even consider a development like this on greenfield land | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
which is currently used for farming and food production. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
Thank you. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:49:07 | 0:49:09 | |
Having pocketed a recommendation for approval from the planners, | 0:49:09 | 0:49:13 | |
the developers' agent is speaking next. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:16 | |
The officers' report comprehensively addresses | 0:49:16 | 0:49:19 | |
all the material considerations. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
We are thankful... We thank the officers for their hard work | 0:49:21 | 0:49:24 | |
and we are very grateful for the recommendation for approval. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:28 | |
The development will not result in any adverse impacts | 0:49:28 | 0:49:31 | |
and it will deliver a wide range of benefits, | 0:49:31 | 0:49:33 | |
which should be afforded significant weight. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
I would like to thank you for your time | 0:49:36 | 0:49:37 | |
and respectfully request members to support this planning application | 0:49:37 | 0:49:41 | |
and resolve to grant planning permission | 0:49:41 | 0:49:43 | |
in line with your officers' recommendation. Thank you. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:45 | |
Thank you. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:47 | |
I'd like to open the debate straightaway to members on this. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:51 | |
We in fact visited this site | 0:49:51 | 0:49:53 | |
and I was struck by the nature of the green fields. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:57 | |
They were truly green. | 0:49:57 | 0:50:00 | |
And I think that were we forced, bludgeoned by officers... | 0:50:00 | 0:50:07 | |
Don't tempt me. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:09 | |
..to adopt this. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:11 | |
People would bear in mind that book, How Green Was My Valley. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:17 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:50:17 | 0:50:20 | |
Good start. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:22 | |
I think this is just too far. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:24 | |
This is a green site, | 0:50:24 | 0:50:26 | |
it's best and most versatile agricultural land... | 0:50:26 | 0:50:29 | |
As the debate starts, it looks like | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
the councillors want to save this green field. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
But to go against development, they must find a sound planning reason, | 0:50:35 | 0:50:39 | |
one that head planner Fiona feels can be defended | 0:50:39 | 0:50:42 | |
if an appeal is lodged. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:45 | |
If you try refusing it on DS5, open countryside, | 0:50:45 | 0:50:48 | |
you will not sustain that. We've seen that time and time again. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
We could say something like, "This is a greenfield site," | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
or something along those lines? | 0:50:54 | 0:50:56 | |
WOMAN: She says no. > | 0:50:56 | 0:50:58 | |
Chairman, we've had numerous appeal decisions, | 0:50:58 | 0:51:03 | |
and time and time and time again, | 0:51:03 | 0:51:06 | |
we've failed to justify this committee's reasons for refusal, | 0:51:06 | 0:51:10 | |
and we are faced with significant cost implications | 0:51:10 | 0:51:15 | |
as a result of those decisions. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:17 | |
I'm yet to hear from members why this site is not sustainable. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:22 | |
-That's incorrect. You've only said... -Chairman! -Excuse me. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:26 | |
Finally, one councillor decides on a change of tactic | 0:51:26 | 0:51:30 | |
and puts forward objector Robin's argument. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:33 | |
We've been running the Winsford neighbour plan | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
for the last two years. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:37 | |
We have identified land for 3,500 to 3,600 houses. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:43 | |
This has come outside of it. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:46 | |
Councillor Clarke believes the local neighbourhood plan | 0:51:46 | 0:51:49 | |
will protect greenfield sites such as this. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
Chairman, once again... | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
I'm sorry to keep doing this, | 0:51:55 | 0:51:57 | |
but neighbourhood plan hasn't been through examination | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
so we are still at relatively early stages | 0:52:00 | 0:52:02 | |
in terms of the weight that you can give them. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
Fiona is still not convinced this argument would stand up at appeal | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
but the councillors are determined to try and save the green field. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:12 | |
I have to say that if the law is that you've got to allow everything, | 0:52:12 | 0:52:17 | |
then why are we all sitting here? | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
We, as an authority, are encouraging neighbourhood plans | 0:52:21 | 0:52:25 | |
but are we listening to them? | 0:52:25 | 0:52:27 | |
Because, obviously, I don't think we are here. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:30 | |
I'll still move the recommendation for refusal. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:33 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:52:33 | 0:52:36 | |
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Please. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:43 | |
Can we go to the vote, please? | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
All those in favour of refusal please show. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:48 | |
That's unanimous. Clearly carried, thank you. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING | 0:52:53 | 0:52:55 | |
After a 45-minute debate, | 0:52:55 | 0:52:57 | |
the councillors finally get their way - | 0:52:57 | 0:52:59 | |
the green field won't be built on. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:01 | |
-Well done. -Thank you very much. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
-She wants slapping down, doesn't she? -I know. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:08 | |
Does that mean we can go now? | 0:53:08 | 0:53:10 | |
We're absolutely thrilled. We're absolutely thrilled. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:13 | |
I think it's been a great result. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:15 | |
I think the councillors weren't going to be pushed around | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
by planning law, they were just going to go for it, and they did. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:22 | |
I think the public sector needs to remember their place. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
I mean, they're meant to be serving us. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
They're meant to be serving the committee members | 0:53:26 | 0:53:29 | |
and trying to help them, and she didn't do that. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:31 | |
I think it was absolutely appalling. It's a disgrace. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:34 | |
She was on the verge of bullying them, but they wouldn't be bullied. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:38 | |
Good for them. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:40 | |
I'm going to have a quiet beer... | 0:53:42 | 0:53:44 | |
followed by lots of noisy ones. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
Good night. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:49 | |
They don't HAVE to listen to me. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:52 | |
It's my job to try and get them to come to what I consider | 0:53:52 | 0:53:56 | |
the right planning decision, but they decided to run with it, | 0:53:56 | 0:53:59 | |
but the likely outcome is, we'll end up in an appeal situation | 0:53:59 | 0:54:03 | |
with what I have to say is | 0:54:03 | 0:54:06 | |
a very difficult reason for refusal to defend. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:10 | |
I became incensed when somebody keeps telling me, | 0:54:10 | 0:54:13 | |
"You cannot do this," and, "You cannot do that." | 0:54:13 | 0:54:15 | |
It's our town. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:17 | |
Good night. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:19 | |
180 miles south in Broxbourne, local objectors | 0:54:29 | 0:54:33 | |
have managed to slow down the progress of an application | 0:54:33 | 0:54:36 | |
to extend this Turkish restaurant. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:38 | |
I've had applications that have gone for quite some time, | 0:54:38 | 0:54:41 | |
different amended plans, different re-consults with neighbours, | 0:54:41 | 0:54:44 | |
for seven days. I've never had an application go on for this long. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:48 | |
We've had so many plans now to try and make it work, | 0:54:48 | 0:54:51 | |
it has become a little bit of a mess, really. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
Still trying to get the extension built by Christmas, | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
veteran planning consultant Dom Padalino has come | 0:54:59 | 0:55:02 | |
to re-draw the application for the fourth time. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:05 | |
Careful... | 0:55:05 | 0:55:06 | |
Sorry? | 0:55:06 | 0:55:09 | |
You almost hit the dog. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:11 | |
(He was in the road, wasn't he?) | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
After 16 weeks of unproductive work, | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
Dom believes he's finally found a scheme | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
which is going to silence the locals and the planners. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
The pen is certainly mightier than the sword in my case. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
It's very rare that we have to use the sword. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
Dom has moved the smoking area to the far side, | 0:55:32 | 0:55:35 | |
which he believes will address the noise and the access issues, | 0:55:35 | 0:55:39 | |
and also make room for the refuse bins, | 0:55:39 | 0:55:42 | |
so his client can look forward to a busy Christmas season. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:45 | |
The winter time is coming. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
I hope, this time, everything is ready. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:52 | |
But Christmas time comes, | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
and there's not much room at the inn. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
The extension hasn't been approved. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:05 | |
Environmental health do have some issues with the smoking shelter | 0:56:10 | 0:56:13 | |
being on that western side, | 0:56:13 | 0:56:15 | |
mainly because it's completely contained, | 0:56:15 | 0:56:17 | |
so the smoking shelter hasn't got enough room, really, | 0:56:17 | 0:56:21 | |
for the smoke to infiltrate into the air. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:24 | |
He's been trying to make it work by just doing small tweaks | 0:56:25 | 0:56:29 | |
here and there and, unfortunately, the small tweaks just aren't enough. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:33 | |
Dom will get another chance to submit his plans | 0:56:33 | 0:56:36 | |
in the new year, but he's failed to deliver this project on time, | 0:56:36 | 0:56:40 | |
which has dented his 100% approval record. | 0:56:40 | 0:56:44 | |
I'm not sure if we'll get a card from Dom this year. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:47 | |
You never know, we might be on his Christmas list. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:49 | |
I very much doubt it. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:51 | |
We've got a few left over | 0:56:51 | 0:56:53 | |
so we'll send them out to the planners. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
Dom may have missed his Christmas deadline, | 0:57:00 | 0:57:03 | |
but he's still working on the ultimate solution | 0:57:03 | 0:57:05 | |
for the smoking area. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:06 | |
We had designed the smoking shelter and I remember at the outset | 0:57:06 | 0:57:10 | |
that the planners actually told us that they | 0:57:10 | 0:57:12 | |
thought the smoking shelter was too small. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:14 | |
So then we increased it. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:16 | |
We were then told it was going to cause problems to the neighbours, | 0:57:16 | 0:57:20 | |
so we then moved it. | 0:57:20 | 0:57:21 | |
And we've now got rid of it. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:24 | |
So, by taking, literally, the label off the drawing, | 0:57:24 | 0:57:27 | |
and call it an outside terrace, | 0:57:27 | 0:57:29 | |
we resolved that problem. | 0:57:29 | 0:57:32 | |
Don't worry. We are still young. | 0:57:34 | 0:57:36 | |
We have this a long time and we can wait. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:40 | |
Next time - one couple expose their bold plan | 0:57:49 | 0:57:53 | |
to stop a development... | 0:57:53 | 0:57:55 | |
We are both naturists, | 0:57:55 | 0:57:57 | |
and it you want to sell it, it may put off prospective buyers. | 0:57:57 | 0:58:02 | |
..residents are pushed to the limit... | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
If it goes against us, I'll probably kill somebody. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:08 | |
..and objectors to a block of flats tell the architect where to go. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:12 | |
Between the Gherkin and The Shard, it'd look lovely. | 0:58:12 | 0:58:15 | |
Not on a nice little corner. | 0:58:15 | 0:58:17 | |
It don't need something like that there. | 0:58:17 | 0:58:20 |