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Planning battles are raging across Britain. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
I love the countryside. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:06 | |
So do I, mate, so leave it alone. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
I don't have time for NIMBYs. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:09 | |
No to the student village! | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
In a drive to boost the economy, | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
the Government has relaxed planning laws... | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
Here we are with a massive planning application. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
It is a big project. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:20 | |
You're talking about 270 million of economic benefit. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
I mean, we like to see enterprise but not on our doorstep. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
..so developers are cashing in... | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
Of course I'm here to make a buck. Guilty as charged. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
..objectors are going to war. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
It's not morally right, it's not socially right. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
-It's disgusting. -Totally stitched up. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
And I'm not having that they were frightened of a bunch of pensioners. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
Deciding who wins are Britain's planners. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
I can't sit on the fence. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:50 | |
Well, it's not a fence, it's railings, basically. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
Tonight, one couple expose their bold plan to stop a development... | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
-We are both naturists... -I don't know whether to put this on camera. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
..and it may put off prospective buyers. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
..residents are pushed to the limit... | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
If it goes against us, I could probably kill somebody. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
..and objectors tell the architect where to go. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
Between the Gherkin and the Shard, it'd look lovely. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
Across the country, the number of successful planning applications | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
for new homes has risen by more than 20% | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
since the planning laws were relaxed in March 2012. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
But in the sleepy village of Slad in Gloucestershire, | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
the setting of Laurie Lee's classic novel Cider With Rosie, | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
a planning application for a new property | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
is upsetting the apple cart. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:51 | |
Today, head of planning at Stroud District Council, Phil Skill, | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
is on his way to visit the proposed building site. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
You must excuse me. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
The Japanese stalks on this thing confuse the heck out of me so quite | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
often I'll change lanes by indicating with the windscreen wipers, so... | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
This plot of land is just under an acre. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
Originally, there was a small bungalow on the site... | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
..but the previous owners knocked it down and sold the land, with | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
planning permission to build a detached two-storey house. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
Obviously, these houses are of an age | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
where they're probably ready for either | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
major renovation or rebuild, as this one was. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
The plans that have already been greenlit by the planners | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
are called 'live' or 'extant' plans. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
They are still valid | 0:02:50 | 0:02:51 | |
and mean the developer could start work immediately. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
But the new owner has new ideas. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
The red line shows the proposed 3m increase in roof height | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
at one side of the property. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
My opinion is the site can actually take a substantial building. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
What I'm worried about is the height of the building. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:13 | |
In order to make a recommendation for approval or refusal, Phil needs | 0:03:13 | 0:03:18 | |
to visualise whether the proposed building is too tall for the plot. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
There's no dwelling in place as a comparison, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
but there is something else to help. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
Quite often the neighbours or even the developer | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
will place things on the site to give you a visual cue | 0:03:31 | 0:03:36 | |
as to how high a building is. In this case, | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
we believe that the neighbours have put some scaffolding poles up | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
with a high-vis vest | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
to indicate the height of the ridge of the building. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
Now we've not verified that, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
but it does give you an indication of what the neighbour thinks. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
Rod and Terry Clifford have lived next door to the proposed site | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
for 20 years. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:00 | |
This is the first part of the extension that we put on the house. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:05 | |
Their property was a small bungalow, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
which they've added to over the years to make a large family home | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
four times its original size. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
We bought the property some 20 years ago. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
We wanted to extend it. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
Because there wasn't an abundance of cash available at the time, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:27 | |
we've built it as we could afford it. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
The Cliffords have done all the building work themselves, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
using pieces from reclamation yards, jumble sales and auctions | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
to create every room on a shoestring. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
This came from a junk shop up in Minchinhampton, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
it was about a fiver. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
This came from an old draper's shop. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
The hammer dropped at £70. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
This piece of wood here was 50p in a Scout auction. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
Come on, Zigs, out the way. | 0:04:58 | 0:04:59 | |
Rod and Terry did not oppose | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
the original plans for the site next door, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
but they are one of the 14 objectors to the developer's new proposition. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
The build is obviously in front of us now. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
Erm... | 0:05:12 | 0:05:13 | |
It's so hard to visualise from plans as to heights, | 0:05:15 | 0:05:20 | |
so I put up a flagpole at the weekend, | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
so that hopefully, if the planners came, they would understand. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
Um... | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
That is the height of the ridge tile, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
and comes across and ends under this vertical tree here. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:38 | |
What he's proposing is just too big and too tall. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
The man behind the scheme is property developer Paul Blakey. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
If he gets permission to go ahead, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:50 | |
he plans to sell the four-bedroomed, detached property | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
for over a million pounds, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
making it the most expensive house on the road. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
It's very farcical, that, and very childish, in my opinion. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
Paul insists the footprint of the house he's proposing | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
is not significantly larger than the original, extant plans | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
and he can't understand why Rod and Terry are objecting so strongly. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:17 | |
They have got four bedrooms. They have got two bathrooms. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
They have got an indoor swimming pool. They've got a lounge, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:25 | |
a dining room, a study, a kitchen/diner, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
a utility room and a double garage. In actual fact, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
they have got more rooms that what I'm asking for. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
The Cliffords won't have the final say as to whether | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
Paul's £1 million property gets built, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
but they've already warned him that their lifestyle choice | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
could drive away potential buyers. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
I said, "One thing I feel I must tell you, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
"if it's a speculative build. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
"We are both naturists. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
"And therefore you may see nudity in the garden. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
"And if you want to sell it, it may put off prospective buyers." | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
-I don't think you ought to mention that, really! -Why not? | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
But Paul isn't going to let Rod and Terry's outdoor pursuit | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
put him off his fight to build his £1 million property. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
What they do in their garden, I couldn't care less. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
Because I've been negotiating with the planners for five months, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:27 | |
I cannot sustain, financially, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:32 | |
to leave this site while I go to appeal. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
I've got £400,000 stood in this site. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
I've got to turn this round and make a profit. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
Every new build brings a new design. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
But not everyone's going to like it. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
In Broxbourne, Hertfordshire, planning assistant Colin Free | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
is assessing a site for a potential new building. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
Ripe for renovation, this, isn't it? | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
The landowners are proposing a block of eight flats. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
But it's the bold design that's provoked strong opinions | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
in an area of more traditional housing. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
It's been described in the office as... | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
um, impolitely, as Gonzo's nose. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
What do you make of the design? | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:08:34 | 0:08:35 | |
Sorry! | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
Well. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:40 | |
It's growing on me, actually. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
I didn't like it at first. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
But I can see now that it's certainly got merits. It's.. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
..it would be quite a landmark feature in the local area. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:56 | |
For years to come, I'm sure people who drive past it and think, | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
"Hmm, that's interesting." | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
They might not like it, we'll have to see. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
It's an interesting one, very interesting. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
The developers behind this scheme are Italian-born Toni Fantozzi | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
and his son Joe. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:18 | |
-You said you want a small one. -Yeah. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
SHE SPEAKS IN ITALIAN | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
82-year-old Toni has been living in the UK since 1957. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
He used to be a market gardener in the fruit and veg business, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
but now works alongside his 48-year-old son Joe, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
who still lives at home. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:36 | |
Well, when the family | 0:09:40 | 0:09:41 | |
work together, they go a long way. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
My chequebook, I put his name on it, I got my name. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:49 | |
He spends money on something, I'm not going to question it | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
cos I trust him. He's not going to swindle me, is he? | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
From a business point of view, it's really good. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
Not that he does much because he's retired. But... | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
Well, he's also got one arm, but that doesn't really stop him! | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
Toni lost his arm in a forklift accident | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
but that hasn't prevented him from building a property empire | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
worth an estimated £3.5 million. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
We started small and, bit by bit, we grew. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:21 | |
We've refurbished quite a few properties. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
We've done a large block of two-bedroom flats. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
We've still got them as well. They're all ready now. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
This would be our biggest project yet. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
This application to build eight flats is the Fantozzis' third attempt | 0:10:33 | 0:10:38 | |
to get permission to build on their former nursery site. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
So far, the project has taken two years and significant funds. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:46 | |
We've spent somewhere in the region of £120,000. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
That's just paperwork. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:51 | |
If it's rejected, that's a colossal amount of money to lose. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
But it's in the residents' best favour to have an unusual building | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
which will set off the landscape, I think. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
But with 84 objections lodged, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
the Fantozzis are far from on the home straight. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
Without sticking my neck out, | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
I don't think that's going to be accepted. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
Ron Canterford and Ron Sharples have been next-door neighbours | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
for 48 years. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
Some people call us the Two Ronnies, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
but, um, we take that with a smile. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
Their gardens back onto the proposed site | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
and they are both strongly objecting to the Fantozzis' vision for the development. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:41 | |
I'm not saying it's not a nice-looking building in its right place. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
Between the Gherkin and the Shard, it'd look lovely. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
Not on a nice little corner. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
It don't need something like that there. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
Council policy says it should be in keeping with the area, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
clearly it's not. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
Look, them house, they're like a barn, they're like a shed there. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:13 | |
They have got no taste! | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
That's why myself, on the other length, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:20 | |
I want to build something which is completely different than any other. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
Fashion changes, styles change, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
and he was just after something slightly different, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
which stands out amongst the normal box houses that you see around you. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:34 | |
Totally out of keeping. It would be a huge domination of the area. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
The whole thing really needs careful rethinking. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
Having assessed the site, planning assistant Colin will need to make a recommendation | 0:12:52 | 0:12:57 | |
to approve or reject the application. | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
A design like this will engender strong opinions both ways. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
It's been described as a Marmite application - | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
you either love it or you hate it. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
Local resident Ron Sharples hates it | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
and he isn't afraid to let the Fantozzis and Colin know exactly how he feels. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
We've lived here 50 years and now we're all trying to move. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
Value of the property goes down and you won't be able to move | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
once that gets built, overlooking all those gardens along the back there. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
It's disgusting. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
Sorry. It's just not right. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
It's not morally right, it's not socially right. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
You're entitled to your opinion. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
Anyway, I've got to go. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
I've got to pick Wendy up from the hairdresser's. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
In Britain, planning is a democratic process. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
Members of the public can challenge any application, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
no matter how small, if they don't agree with what is proposed. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
In Torfaen, South Wales, retired couple Jan and Pete Newsome | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
have lived in their close for 20 years and there's nothing they love more | 0:14:14 | 0:14:19 | |
than their immaculate garden they've meticulously nurtured. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
I think if your garden is nice | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
and you keep your outside looking as nice as you can, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
you're welcoming people to come visit you then. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
It's what Alan Titchmarsh says! | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
Although not everyone is welcome. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
It's not a child-friendly garden. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
They can look at it. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:40 | |
But you don't put a toe on the lawn! | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
Kill! | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
We've put our heart and soul into this house. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
It's where we'll go from in the box. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
Yeah! We'll go out feet first! | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
Recently, Jan and Pete have been gathering support from fellow residents | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
against a planning application that's threatening to change the appearance of their beloved close. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:04 | |
Pete drafted a letter so everybody could sign. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
So I went round and I knocked everybody in the close. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
And I didn't say no more, but give them the letter. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
I says, "It's about that mess that we've been looking at." | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
And they just signed it. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:17 | |
The controversial planning application in question | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
relates to this wooden fence outside their next-door neighbour's house. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:27 | |
The property is owned by one of Wales' biggest housing associations | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
who built the fence as a temporary replacement for a brick wall that collapsed a year ago. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
That's the picture of how it looked before the wall fell down. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
Now the owner wants to erect 12.5m of galvanised railings | 0:15:40 | 0:15:45 | |
to replace the wooden fence | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
as they say it's the most cost-effective solution. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
Galvanised fence, what they're proposing, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
-just does not fit anywhere. -No. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
Surely you can build a wall that's going to stay up! | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
The Romans did it and some of their stuff's still here! | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
It's not rocket science to build a wall, is it? | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
All the other residents in the close agree - | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
including the tenants of the property, who have signed the petition against their own landlord. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:15 | |
How can big galvanised railings look nice? | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
I don't care if they are gold. It will look like a big cage. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
What do you want? | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
-Wall! -The wall back. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:24 | |
This man juggles all the major planning applications in Torfaen | 0:16:27 | 0:16:32 | |
from power stations to shopping centres. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
Today, however, the Head of Planning will bring his years of experience | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
to good use on this application. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
God, it's a bit wobbly, isn't it? | 0:16:43 | 0:16:44 | |
I've just given myself a... | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
Ooh, nasty! | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
It's Duncan Smith's job to decide on behalf of the council | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
whether to risk upsetting the public | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
and allow the 12.5m of metal railings to be built. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
We're paid to have opinions. I can't sit on the fence. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
It's not a fence, it's railings, basically. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
I don't think this would change the overall character of this area. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:14 | |
It would be different from what was there originally. I've got no problem with that. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:19 | |
Planner Duncan is recommending approval for the railings, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
but insists they should be painted black or dark green. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
Why are you choosing black or dark green? | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
Because I've got black on my back garden. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
It looks very good, actually! | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
However, as he faces the residents' implacable opposition, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
Duncan wants the decision to be made by | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
the elected councillors of the planning committee. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
Despite the fact it's what we would call a minor application, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
23 people bothered to sign a petition. So I felt that | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
this warranted putting the application to the meeting. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
At least then the decision is taken in open forum. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
People can see that decision being taken. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
I can see the people actually saying why they're doing it. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
-Did you sweep up? -Yes, I swept up. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
She filmed me sweeping up - it's on camera! | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
You missed a bit! | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
Having galvanised the opposition, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
Peter and Jan now want a show of strength | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
at next week's planning committee. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
Laura, can I ask you if you'd be free next Tuesday, four o'clock? | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
They're lobbying their neighbours to join them when the decision is made. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
I mean, are they going to ignore everybody that lives here? | 0:18:30 | 0:18:35 | |
Where are those railings going to fit in? | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
You can edit this bit out, but what clown thought of that?! | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
Pete and Jan might have the support of all 23 residents, | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
but they're up against a heavyweight. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
The applicant is one of Wales' biggest housing associations, Linc. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:53 | |
Despite managing more than 4,000 houses, their top man is determined | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
to see railings going up on the close. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
I have been to the site. I've decided | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
it's going to be galvanised. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:03 | |
I know that it's going to be around about 1.1m high | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
and it's THE most attractive option. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
When approval is given, then we'll start work almost immediately. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
And with the support of Torfaen's planners, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
are Linc an unstoppable force? | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
Back in Broxbourne, Hertfordshire, there's trouble in Paradise. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
Local property developers the Fantozzis are proposing | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
to build a block of eight flats in the middle of a residential area. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:42 | |
But the locals are not impressed with the design. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
I feel that is suitable, it is vibrant, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
it gives to that corner a kind of excitement. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
Sicilian-born architect Luigi Bille designed the flats. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
Both he and the Fantozzis think the look of the building | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
would add to the character of the local area. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
I think it has got a wow factor. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
Whether you like, and you say, "Wow, it's crap!" | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
or, "Wow, it's good!" | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
there's nothing comparable in the area. I agree. I noticed that. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:15 | |
But that is the reason of putting through a project like that - | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
to make something different. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:20 | |
But Luigi's wow factor has failed to woo the locals. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
84 residents have already made their objections known, including | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
Brian Mollett, who also helped quash the Fantozzis' last two schemes. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
I mean, if you've seen the pictures of this thing, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
it's the worst one yet out of the three. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
I mean, the last two were bad enough but this one is absolutely terrible. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
Brian has lived on the corner of the close for 29 years. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
Dinner is served. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
Ah, merci. Merci bien. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
Oh, that's all right. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
He's no stranger to objecting to local planning applications. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
Two golf driving ranges, there was a school, there was a radio mast, | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
there was the football pitches, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
-there was a defined footpath, that's six. -Yeah. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
Um... | 0:21:13 | 0:21:14 | |
bearing in mind, these projects, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
as you probably appreciate with this planning, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
they do tend to drag on. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
But after all his planning battles, Brian's determination to keep | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
his neighbourhood just the way he likes it is still going strong. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
I quite enjoy it because you've got a sense of achievement, you see. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
You don't win 'em all. We've only lost one in all these years. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
But I love a good row, yeah. Especially if I'm in the right. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
What do you make of it, all his fights? | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
Oh, no. I quite agree with it. I think someone's got to do it. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
And, well, we're both retired, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
so it's something to fill our time, as well. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
With so many people vehemently opposed | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
to the proposed block of flats, planning assistant Colin Free | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
has decided to find out more about residents' concerns. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
-Hello! -Hello, Brian. -All right, Guv? | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
My name's Colin Free, I'm the case officer | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
for the application which I believe you've been objecting to. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
Well, yeah, Psycho on a bad day! It's a monstrosity! | 0:22:25 | 0:22:31 | |
Yes, yeah. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:32 | |
Is that your main objection to it? | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
The main factor, it just doesn't fit. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
People would come up here on coach trips just to see it, I think. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
It would be quite famous, I would think, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
to see the horror of Cheshunt. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:43 | |
It's been described to me as a bit of a Marmite - | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
either you love it or you hate it. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:47 | |
Well, I can't see anybody loving that. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
You know, I mean, it's like something out of Grand Designs, innit? | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
I mean... | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
Is that such a bad thing, to be aspirational? | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
Yes! I can't see anybody convince me this compliments the area. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
And I think you might have to agree on that, to be honest. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
Come on, to be really honest. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
Back at the office, Colin has come to a decision. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
We've met with residents and we appreciate their concerns | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
but we feel, as a department, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
that it does meet our policies and our requirements. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
The design is contentious, we realise that, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
but we're going to recommend approval. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
But hope is not lost for Brian and the other local objectors | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
because the final call on the Fantozzis' flats will be made | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
by the elected members of the council's planning committee. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
In the last year, Government figures showed 400,000 plots of land | 0:23:50 | 0:23:55 | |
across England and Wales had planning permission to build on. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
Yet only half of these sites had started construction. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
In Slad, Gloucestershire, local developer Paul Blakey bought an acre | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
of land with planning permission to build a two-storey house. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
But six months later, the £400,000 site is still dormant. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
Paul has submitted a new planning application | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
to build a three-storey house, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
which has led to strong objections from neighbours. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
I mean, these people | 0:24:28 | 0:24:29 | |
are just so small-minded. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
They need to get a life. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
Having assessed the site, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
Head of Planning at Stroud District Council, Phil Skill... | 0:24:36 | 0:24:41 | |
Ouch! | 0:24:41 | 0:24:42 | |
..now needs to make a recommendation for approval or refusal. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
Now, obviously, with three storeys, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
you're going to get more floor area and I think that's being picked up | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
by the neighbours, but the scale of the difference between the two | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
is such that there won't be a significant harm created | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
by the larger scheme, so we will be recommending permission. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:03 | |
But it will be up to the planning committee to make the final decision. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
Today, Phil is taking the committee to the site | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
so they can assess it for themselves. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
It's interesting, getting out with the councillors | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
and dealing with them informally rather than a formal meeting. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
-Do you all get on? -Yeah, there's a camaraderie. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
But I never get invited to Christmas parties or Bar Mitzvahs or anything. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
The planning committee is made up of 12 men | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
and women who are elected by their constituents. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
Stroud councillors include a retired chartered accountant | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
and a former teacher. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
When I go on a journey, say, on the train, so I'm able to look out of the window, | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
I find myself actually really looking at all the buildings | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
on the way and making planning judgments on them. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
You should've got planning permission for your hut! | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
Yeah, I think, "Oh, gosh, we wouldn't have permitted that. That's terrible." | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
Principal planning officer Darryl Rogers | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
is leading today's site visit. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
What we have here is an application for a replacement dwelling. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
You'll notice there is no dwelling on the site currently. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
That's what was here. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
Classic sort of '20s, '30s bungalow, | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
very typical of what has been along this part of Slad Road | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
and what has been systematically replaced with larger dwellings. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
On site visits, applicants | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
and objectors are not allowed to lobby the councillors. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
However, next-door neighbours and the scheme's strongest objectors, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
Rod and Terry Clifford, have come up with | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
a way to sway the committee's vote without breaking the rules. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
We took the extant planning and the current planning | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
and superimposed one on top of the other so that you could | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
see very clearly the difference in size. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
The red line indicates the new proposed three-storey property. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
We made this pack up | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
and hand-delivered that to all the councillors, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
the 12 councillors on the building committee, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
so that they all had their own copy, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
because we felt that they probably hadn't had the opportunity to | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
compare like with like, the extant planning with the current planning. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:16 | |
But when the committee meet a week later, the planners have noticed | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
discrepancies in the measurements of developer Paul's plans, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
and the case is deferred for another month so this can be rectified. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
I'm glad that | 0:27:32 | 0:27:33 | |
the committee feel that there's enough questions | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
behind the application | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
-to relook at it. -So that's positive. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
But for developer Paul Blakey, time is money. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
If you take my wages and my son's wages, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
that costs me roughly £8,000 a month. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
So, all in all, it has cost me the best part of £35-40,000. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:05 | |
It's utterly ridiculous to say that local people can design your house. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:14 | |
It's my house, my land. They are just literally jealous. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:19 | |
It's as simple as that. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:20 | |
They just don't want a beautiful house built here | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
when all of theirs are very average. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
Paul now needs to submit new plans with the correct measurements | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
in time for next month's committee meeting. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
So although the Cliffords have won the battle, | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
it's still possible Paul could win the war. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
I think they are probably content that approval hasn't been granted, | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
but this may just be a stay of execution. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
We've still got to see what the members have said. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
The members have not yet debated this, | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
so we don't know which way it's going yet, do we? | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
The UK faces a large and growing gap between the houses we need | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
and new houses being built - a shortfall of approximately 200,000. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:07 | |
In Cheshunt, Hertfordshire, planner Andy MacDougall is assessing | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
an application to provide seven new properties. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
This application is for five flats to be located | 0:29:16 | 0:29:21 | |
in the dwelling at the bottom of the driveway. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
As you come into the site, a further two dwellings are located roughly... | 0:29:24 | 0:29:30 | |
roughly where we are on site at the moment, in the form of a pair | 0:29:30 | 0:29:35 | |
of semidetached houses with parking spaces. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
And I've got to assess how these buildings sit both within the site | 0:29:39 | 0:29:44 | |
and how they sit adjacent to the neighbouring properties. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
This site is currently used as a builder's yard, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
but it could provide vital housing for the borough as it's | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
in a residential area and close to local amenities. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
But Andy has already received nine objections from local residents | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
who are unhappy with the plans, so he's got a tough decision ahead. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:09 | |
While I think most people recognise that houses need to be built, | 0:30:09 | 0:30:15 | |
it's fairly rare to find neighbours which want it built in gardens | 0:30:15 | 0:30:20 | |
or on sites next to their own. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
This could be funny. Whee! | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
With so many objections to the development, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
Andy is visiting neighbours to get their viewpoint. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
-Hi, Miss Hollywood. -Hi. Are you all right? | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
Geraldine Hollywood's Victorian terrace | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
backs onto the potential site. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
Are they going to knock this down? | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
Because this is part of my garden. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
Right, anything on their side of the boundary, they are removing, yes. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
-So, is this brick wall going? -So if this is... | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
if it is your brick wall, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
-then they would have to get your permission to remove it. -Right. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
If it is their brick wall, they could replace it with a fence of some description or they could retain it. | 0:30:56 | 0:31:01 | |
Well, I've got planting and everything there | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
that's been established for eight years and I'm not happy about that. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
That's the reason we planned our garden | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
around this. And there's no way I'm having my garden removed. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
That wisteria on that wall there, growing along there, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
it's taken eight years for it to flower. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
And I'm not having some developer wreck it. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
Objectors don't always have the same reasons to oppose a development. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
Next door, | 0:31:30 | 0:31:31 | |
there's another neighbour spitting feathers about the application. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
This local resident has lived here for 14 years, and this new proposed | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
development could overshadow the room he spends most of his time in. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
Alf loves a cup of tea. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
He really likes tea. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
Alf, do you want a cup of tea? Alfie? | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
ALFIE WHISTLES | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
Alfie the parrot is a big part of the Hunt family. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
Alfie? | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
His mum Sandra and dad Cliff have brought him up since he was a chick. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
We've had him since he was born. He's 14 now. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
You've got to understand, | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
he don't know he's a bird. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
He's an imprint, like, imprinted on us. He thinks he's a person. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:19 | |
He'll tell us when he wants to go to bed. He'll say, "Going to bed," | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
and then we just cover him over and stick him in the corner. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
But the proposed development would stand more than 2m | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
above the surrounding houses | 0:32:30 | 0:32:31 | |
and threaten to overshadow Alfie's bright, sunny lounge. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
DOOR BELL CHIMES | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
DOG BARKS | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
-Hi there. You must be Cliff. -Hello. -Hello, hi, Andy from the council. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
Today, planner Andy has come to meet Cliff and Alfie | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
to hear their concerns. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
So, I mean, look at the old parrot there. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
If they built 'em, he'd been in the dark all day. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
-ANDY LAUGHS -Get no sun, no natural light. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
-He hasn't written a letter in, has he? -He ain't. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
But Andy does have to seriously consider how the new houses | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
would affect Cliff's right to light and privacy. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
Maybe ask the guy who wants to build them, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
-if he lived here, would he like it... -Yeah. I mean... -..that close? | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
..I do try and talk to developers and say, "Well, | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
"this is how you should be designing schemes. If you wouldn't be happy, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
"then why would you be expect other neighbours to be?" | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
I can understand him, you know, doing the house. That's fine. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
I can even understand these to a degree, but not as much as those. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
-He's just being greedy. -Yeah. -Just being perfectly greedy. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
Andy will now need to write a report that makes a recommendation | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
to approve or refuse the potential new homes. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
Alf, say "application refused". | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
Alf, say "application refused". | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
In Torfaen, South Wales, plans to install galvanised railings | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
in a residential area have got one couple up in arms. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
On the plans that we went to see, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
I know that looks a bit rickety, | 0:34:12 | 0:34:13 | |
-but... -It's very similar to that. Gross. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
Pete and Jan Newsome believe the railings | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
proposed for installation in front of their neighbour's house | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
are not in keeping with the rest of the close. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
-This is our little walk that we sometimes do. -Yeah! | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
Oh, I wish I'd put nail polish on now! | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:34:31 | 0:34:32 | |
That's about the height they're going to be. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
Rubbish. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
It's going to look like a cage. I'm going to be going, "Let me out. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:41 | |
"I have done nothing wrong!" | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
That's very good. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
Pete and Jan have the support of all their neighbours, but the | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
applicant is a true Goliath - one of Wales' largest housing associations, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:56 | |
backed up by Torfaen's planners, who are recommending approval. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
In this instance, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:01 | |
the applicant and ourselves were happy | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
with the solution they were putting forward. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
Railings are certainly not out of place or wouldn't be | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
out of place at this location. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:11 | |
But planning is a democratic process, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
and thanks to the residents' petition, the decision has now been | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
passed to the 16 elected members of the planning committee. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:23 | |
In Britain, the average age of a councillor is 60. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
Torfaen, however, is bucking the trend, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
with councillors as young as 26. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
Planner Norman Jones will show them around. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
OK, erm, the proposal is to replace | 0:35:37 | 0:35:42 | |
the existing temporary feature, | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
that you see there, by metal railings. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:49 | |
Is there a reason why the wall couldn't be rebuilt? | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
This is what the applicant has asked for. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
So we've got to... Yeah. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
-If you would like to see a picture of the wall... -Excuse me... | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
You can't interfere with this, I'm sorry. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
-I was just trying to be of some help. -Yes. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
-Because these people are going to vote on this. -Yes, I know they are. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
Jan has fallen foul of planning protocol. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
On site visits, members of the public can't lobby the councillors. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
We can display that at committee. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
It should be displayed now, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
then you can see what's happening, how it looks as it was, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
to the rubbish that's up there at the moment and what's going on. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
But young councillor David Daniels has taken the residents' objection | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
to heart and wants to know precisely what the railings will look like. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:34 | |
Could we get a more detailed design, maybe some sort of similar picture? | 0:36:34 | 0:36:39 | |
We haven't actually got further details, other than... | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
You know, the smallest thing, like railings, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
can have quite an impact on the amenity of the area. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
You can see why... | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
When you put yourself in the residents' position, | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
you can see why it...how they feel. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
It's quite hard to visualise it, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
so it would be really good if we could have the design. | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
OK, well, possibly, we can arrange for that... | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
We did hear one young man say he wanted to know more about it | 0:37:02 | 0:37:07 | |
and he wanted to see... | 0:37:07 | 0:37:08 | |
We did hear that, to which we thought, you know, "Good on you." | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
The final decision will be made by a democratic vote in six days' time. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:17 | |
And with new drawings requested, Jan shares her new-found hope | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
with another local objector. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
We just stood there in our garage, earwigging. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
It did sound as if there might be some hope. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
I've got to admit, the other day, I didn't think there was any. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
I just thought, "They're going to do it." | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
But listening today, I don't know. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
165 miles east down the motorway, in Broxbourne, Hertfordshire, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:50 | |
planning assistant Colin Free | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
is back at the Fantozzis' proposed building site. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
But this time, he isn't alone. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
-OK, hang on, we're not all here yet. -No. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
Colin has made a recommendation for the block of eight flats to be | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
approved, but it will be down to the 13 elected councillors, | 0:38:03 | 0:38:08 | |
who make up the planning committee, to have the final say. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
-It's actually 24m from the rear elevation of that building. -Wow. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:16 | |
Colin is showing them around the site. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
It's far better to see the site than just work from drawings and pictures. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:23 | |
Basically, it gives them a chance to appraise the site | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
so that, on the committee evening, they'll have a chance | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
to put forward informed opinions on the application. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:33 | |
So, this development, | 0:38:33 | 0:38:34 | |
which part of it do you regard suits the existing buildings? | 0:38:34 | 0:38:39 | |
Is it going to match in with any of the surrounding properties? | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
It won't match in, no. We see it more as a landmark feature really. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:48 | |
The councillors represent their voting constituents | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
so the impact on the community is at the forefront of their minds. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:56 | |
Sometimes it's a little difficult, when you've got houses round. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
We've got to make sure that, when it's done, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
it's not going to upset anybody and...it's done in a correct manner. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:08 | |
But will the planning committee share the Fantozzis' bold vision | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
for the site? | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
Sometimes, you've got to take a chance | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
and go with the modern developments. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
When you look at the actual building, | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
you don't want to be a luddite and stick with the past. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
You've got to look to the future. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:24 | |
But you don't want it to be a blot on the landscape. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:28 | |
It's very easy to be traditional | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
and sometimes, we need to try something that's innovative. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
So...we'll have to give it a lot of serious thought | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
before we make a decision. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
In a week's time, the committee will make their ruling. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
There have been two refusals there previously. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
The design is quite contentious. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
It's too close to call, I think. I really do. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
But with £120,000 at stake, | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
are Toni and Joe Fantozzi feeling lucky? | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
Out of 100, I'd say... | 0:40:05 | 0:40:06 | |
98%, it's going through. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
That's how confident I feel. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
In Slad, Gloucestershire, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:20 | |
it's decision day for developer Paul Blakey. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
Paul has planning permission to build a two-storey house, | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
but he's now applied for permission to build a three-storey property | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
that he hopes to sell for over £1 million. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
Well, I hope the committee members approve it. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
When all's said and done, all it is | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
is a four-bedroom house with a double garage on an acre plot. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
It's not a ten-bedroom mansion. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
So...I can't see what the issue is, personally. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:50 | |
Next-door neighbours Rod and Terry Clifford | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
think the new proposed house is too tall for the acre plot | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
and have been battling for months to get the plans refused. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
At the end of the day, we believe our objections are correct and... | 0:41:00 | 0:41:07 | |
We just hope the right decision is made for the village. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
-I suppose that's the bottom line. -Yeah. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
The planning committee meets every month | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
in the main council chamber. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
It's now up to them to decide | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
whether or not Paul's new proposed house can go ahead. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
Is there anyone who wishes to speak opposing the application? | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
The planners have recommended approval, | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
but this is Rod's chance to convince the councillors | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
to refuse planning permission. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
-It's the next one, I think. -Sorry. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
That's the one with the tick on it, that's the one that works. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
We believe that the current proposal by the speculative builder | 0:41:42 | 0:41:48 | |
has resulted in an oversized, imposing building | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
which will dominate the gateway to this village. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:57 | |
Mr Blakey will develop the site and then move on. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:02 | |
The villagers have to live with whatever he leaves behind. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:06 | |
Thank you very much for your time. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
Developer Paul has heard Rod's objections. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
How is he going to answer them? | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
Good evening. Oh, I press this... | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
Good evening, my name's Paul Blakey. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
I've listened to the objections and, basically, | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
they're talking a load of nonsense. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
The building is narrower, it is lower and further back on the site. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:35 | |
So where they're objecting to is beyond me. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
So that's really all I've got to say, really. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
The councillors start to debate. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
I appreciate it's got a large, um...square footage, | 0:42:50 | 0:42:54 | |
but it is on three floors and that's what makes it up. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
I don't think the massing of it is that much more significant | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
that the extant permission anyway, | 0:43:00 | 0:43:01 | |
which is the reason that I think it should be supported. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
You could have got 12 houses in there, if you wanted to, | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
and you've got one house. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
I do find difficulty voting for it, chair - thank you. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:14 | |
Any other members' questions? | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
In that case, would somebody like to make a proposal, please? | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
Councillor Jones? | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
I propose we go with the officer's recommendation. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
Therefore, we go to the vote. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:30 | |
All those in favour, please show. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:31 | |
All those against? | 0:43:33 | 0:43:34 | |
That is carried, thank you. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
So with six votes to four, developer Paul's plans are approved | 0:43:39 | 0:43:43 | |
and now he can finally start to build his three-storey house. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:47 | |
I shook his hand at the end of it because he's won and we didn't. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:54 | |
Obviously disappointed. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:56 | |
I just think it's a sad day for Slad. | 0:43:57 | 0:43:59 | |
I'm just pleased it did go my way, | 0:44:01 | 0:44:03 | |
because it really has been a painful experience, | 0:44:03 | 0:44:08 | |
to be honest. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:09 | |
Um...and it does actually put a sour taste in your mouth | 0:44:09 | 0:44:14 | |
when I've still got to build the house. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
Obviously, I'm a developer and I've got to make a crust. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:21 | |
It's as simple as that, you know? | 0:44:21 | 0:44:22 | |
But it's more than making a crust, isn't it? | 0:44:22 | 0:44:25 | |
I don't know... How do you mean, "more than making a crust"? | 0:44:25 | 0:44:27 | |
Good night. Thank you. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
Well, you wanted to buy it, didn't you? | 0:44:29 | 0:44:30 | |
-Yes, we did. -Why didn't you buy it? | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
We wanted to buy it as a family home. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:35 | |
-Why didn't you buy it? -Because we couldn't afford it, OK? | 0:44:35 | 0:44:38 | |
Well, that...that's your answer, then. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:40 | |
That's fine. OK. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
I've got the money to do it. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
Money talks, as you've told us. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
No, it doesn't talk. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:49 | |
I've no idea. I...I've no idea what he's talking about. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:56 | |
He said that he was there to make profit, | 0:44:56 | 0:44:59 | |
and I said, "Yes, excessive." | 0:44:59 | 0:45:01 | |
OK? Good night. Thank you. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
I told him that, basically, | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
in all the years that I've been building, | 0:45:11 | 0:45:15 | |
um...I've never been beaten on a planning application. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:20 | |
And that is still to date - I never have. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:22 | |
I'm going home, now, and I'm going to have a glass of wine. Goodbye. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:27 | |
It was a big property, | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
but as we all know, size does matter. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
In Torfaen, South Wales, councillors are gathering | 0:45:42 | 0:45:46 | |
to debate the 12.5m of steel railings | 0:45:46 | 0:45:50 | |
that threaten to tarnish Pete and Jan Newsome's dreams | 0:45:50 | 0:45:53 | |
of a happy retirement. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:54 | |
We just want kick these railings out | 0:45:57 | 0:45:59 | |
and have our little wall back, please. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
The planners have approved the application | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
but every resident is against it, so Jan and Pete believe | 0:46:04 | 0:46:08 | |
the councillors should do them justice. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:10 | |
We've done our best. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:13 | |
We hope that the committee will see sense and reason | 0:46:13 | 0:46:18 | |
and do the right thing. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:21 | |
If it goes against us, I could probably kill somebody. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:24 | |
26-year-old Councillor Daniels | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
requested better drawings from the applicant, | 0:46:28 | 0:46:30 | |
one of Wales' largest housing associations. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
But will the sketches convince the committee | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
to rally against the railings? | 0:46:35 | 0:46:37 | |
In support of the application, I have prepared some sketches. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:39 | |
It does give you quite a good view of what it would look like | 0:46:39 | 0:46:42 | |
if you had this wall. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:44 | |
What we do propose, effectively, | 0:46:44 | 0:46:46 | |
the new railings offer a visually acceptable solution | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
and one that's very practical. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:51 | |
Before the committee can vote, one councillor must now come out | 0:46:57 | 0:47:01 | |
either in support or against the railings. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:03 | |
I will ask for a motion now. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:06 | |
I move that we accept the officer's recommendations. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
Unexpectedly, after seeing the new drawings, | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
Councillor Daniels now wants to approve the new railings. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:20 | |
All right. Is there a seconder? | 0:47:20 | 0:47:22 | |
That's been seconded. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:24 | |
Right. Could we have a show of hands? | 0:47:24 | 0:47:27 | |
-Those against? -Two against. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
Two against. That application has been approved. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:36 | |
It was biased for the railings. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
When they put the railings up, they'd done it in such a way | 0:47:47 | 0:47:51 | |
that the picture, actually, it looked quite nice. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:56 | |
Then they put the wall up and it was just a blank of white | 0:47:56 | 0:48:00 | |
and we went... | 0:48:00 | 0:48:02 | |
"Well, that looks awful. I wouldn't even vote for that." | 0:48:02 | 0:48:07 | |
We knew we'd lost. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:08 | |
Despite every household in the close being against the railings, | 0:48:09 | 0:48:13 | |
their elective representatives have given them the green light. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:17 | |
Well, a diplomatic dictatorship. That's the only way to describe it. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
We voted them in, but we have no say on what they do after that. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:24 | |
They obviously do not care what the residents think at all. | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 | |
Over in Cheshunt, Hertfordshire, | 0:48:35 | 0:48:37 | |
a development to create seven much-needed new homes | 0:48:37 | 0:48:41 | |
has been ruffling feathers with one local resident | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
who thinks their light will be blocked... | 0:48:44 | 0:48:47 | |
He won't be too happy, the old boy. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:48 | |
He'll probably have to live out in the garden to try and get some light. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
-PARROT: -Hello, Alf! | 0:48:51 | 0:48:52 | |
..and another whose walled garden is under threat. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:56 | |
If they touch that wall, that's all gone. | 0:48:56 | 0:48:58 | |
And I will kill them if they touch my brick wall. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:01 | |
I will, honestly. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:03 | |
But before planner Andy can make his recommendation, | 0:49:06 | 0:49:09 | |
the site also needs to be assessed by the Highways Department. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
Highways officer Matt Armstrong | 0:49:14 | 0:49:16 | |
works closely with the planning office | 0:49:16 | 0:49:18 | |
to determine what effect any new development will have | 0:49:18 | 0:49:21 | |
on the local road network. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:24 | |
Yeah, I'm a qualified planner. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:25 | |
I have to try and be really careful in my job | 0:49:25 | 0:49:29 | |
not to do the planner's job. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:30 | |
My role is to look purely at the highway implications. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:34 | |
Nothing more, nothing less. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:36 | |
Today, Matt is assessing site access and parking provision. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:42 | |
Can you...film this again? | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
These are always really difficult to get on. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:49 | |
His report could make or break the planning application. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
I mean, you get all sorts of parking here. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
So you've got parking on top of the road humps, you've got parking | 0:49:58 | 0:50:02 | |
up on the footway, you've got parking up on the grass verges. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:06 | |
It's just not... It's just not good as it currently stands. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:10 | |
And, yeah, I wouldn't want this development to make it any worse. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:13 | |
This application has five proposed flats and two proposed houses | 0:50:15 | 0:50:20 | |
but the developer has only allowed room for three parking spaces. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:24 | |
This happens quite a lot and the problem is it, you know, | 0:50:27 | 0:50:29 | |
churns up the grass verge. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:31 | |
On the opposite side of the road, people are right onto the footway | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
as well, which really restricts its width so that impedes pedestrians. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:38 | |
It's really not good. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:39 | |
Given the fact they're only providing three on-site parking spaces, | 0:50:39 | 0:50:42 | |
I think that's too little. They should be looking, here, | 0:50:42 | 0:50:44 | |
at about 10 or 11 spaces that they should provide. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:48 | |
The public highway will be expected to take the shortfall | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
and that will exacerbate the problem with roadside parking even more. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:56 | |
So, on that basis, I will be recommending refusal. | 0:50:56 | 0:50:59 | |
I don't think he likes the look of me, does he? | 0:51:01 | 0:51:03 | |
Maybe he's in favour of the development. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
Perhaps he thinks there's enough parking. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
But planner Andy is under pressure to provide | 0:51:10 | 0:51:13 | |
new housing for the borough. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:14 | |
So does he agree with Matt's recommendation? | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
I am, on this occasion, | 0:51:18 | 0:51:19 | |
recommending refusal of this scheme for a total of six different reasons. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:26 | |
This includes invasion of privacy, lack of parking and over-sizing. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:32 | |
I simply think that the applicant, on this occasion, | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
is proposing too much built form for the site and that all has | 0:51:36 | 0:51:43 | |
further wide-reaching implications in terms of neighbours. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:46 | |
So, for now, | 0:51:49 | 0:51:51 | |
Geraldine Hollywood's precious wall and wisteria are safe... | 0:51:51 | 0:51:55 | |
I was so worried. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:57 | |
So worried. | 0:51:57 | 0:51:59 | |
But now I can keep everything the way it is and I'm over the moon. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:03 | |
..and Alfie the parrot's favourite room remains unchanged. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:09 | |
Have a cup of tea and celebrate the old refusal. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:13 | |
There you are. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
Everyone should get a parrot. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:17 | |
If they've got any planning issues, let the parrot sort it out for them. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
-PARROT: -Application refused. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:22 | |
Less than a mile down the road, it's a big day for the Fantozzis. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:32 | |
After a two-year battle and two attempts to get permission, | 0:52:34 | 0:52:38 | |
there's only a few hours left until the planning committee decides | 0:52:38 | 0:52:41 | |
whether Joe and Toni's block of flats will finally get built. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:45 | |
It's very important it goes my way tonight... | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
Our way, should I say? | 0:52:49 | 0:52:51 | |
..for the simple reason of the amount of time | 0:52:53 | 0:52:55 | |
and the amount of money we've pumped into this. | 0:52:55 | 0:52:57 | |
As I said, it's just over 100K and I need to go forward now. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:04 | |
I need to go forward with this project. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:05 | |
It's been delayed, in and out, in and out of the council so many times. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:10 | |
I can't mess about now. It's our livelihood. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:14 | |
And, not only that, it's just a block of eight flats - | 0:53:14 | 0:53:18 | |
I'm not putting a nuclear power station anywhere. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:21 | |
Colin has recommended approval for the eight flats. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:33 | |
It could go either way. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:35 | |
It... It could be unanimously passed, it could be unanimously thrown out. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:41 | |
But the locals think the design is out of keeping with the area. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:46 | |
If I was a betting man, I'd say it was a 50/50 at the moment. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:51 | |
So we'll keep our fingers crossed. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:53 | |
Yeah, I don't feel so confident as I did last time at all. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:56 | |
Anyway, I'd better get in, I suppose, cos | 0:53:56 | 0:53:58 | |
otherwise I won't get a seat. | 0:53:58 | 0:53:59 | |
The objectors need detailed reasons to support their case | 0:54:01 | 0:54:04 | |
and they're putting their argument in the hands of | 0:54:04 | 0:54:08 | |
telecoms cable planner Cliff Stapleton. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
Good evening, Mr Chairman, members of the committee. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:13 | |
This new proposal has been | 0:54:13 | 0:54:15 | |
described by the developer | 0:54:15 | 0:54:16 | |
and the borough planning department as being a landmark building. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:19 | |
There has been 84 letters of objection to this development | 0:54:20 | 0:54:23 | |
received by the council, | 0:54:23 | 0:54:25 | |
which shows the strength of local feeling against this scheme. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:28 | |
The design contravenes the council's own planning policies | 0:54:28 | 0:54:31 | |
H8, H11, HD13, HD14, HD16 and T3 | 0:54:31 | 0:54:36 | |
and we hope this will be taken into account | 0:54:36 | 0:54:38 | |
when you make your decision. Thank you. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
With a strong case proposed for refusal, | 0:54:44 | 0:54:47 | |
the Fantozzis have decided to let the paid professional, | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
architect Luigi Bille, try to match it. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:54 | |
Mr Chairman, honourable | 0:54:54 | 0:54:56 | |
ladies and gentleman of the committee... | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
But he waits until his allotted time is nearly over to address | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
the controversial matter of the design. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:05 | |
Finally, I'd like to refer to | 0:55:06 | 0:55:14 | |
the Dutch barn, as depicted by the locals, | 0:55:14 | 0:55:18 | |
which is not really a Dutch barn but it is the English barn. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
There are many examples in the country | 0:55:21 | 0:55:23 | |
and I've got a document here that I'd like to circulate, | 0:55:23 | 0:55:27 | |
if you want to know about the Dutch barn, but it is the English barn. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:31 | |
You have to wrap up now, I'm afraid. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:34 | |
Anyway, the scheme is compliant. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:37 | |
I think, you know, I trust that that is sufficient | 0:55:37 | 0:55:42 | |
for you to grant planning permission. Thank you. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:44 | |
I'll now throw it open to the members. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:51 | |
I don't think people will say, as they drive past, | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
"What a wonderful building." | 0:55:54 | 0:55:56 | |
It's not a very pretty sight, to be honest. | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
I actually think it's an ugly building, to tell you the truth. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
I commend this chap for actually trying to put something that's | 0:56:01 | 0:56:04 | |
worthwhile there but I don't think this plan has got quite there yet. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:09 | |
I think he needs to come back and work on it a little bit more. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:12 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:56:12 | 0:56:14 | |
Contemporary designs are very subjective. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:19 | |
If you actually look at that area, | 0:56:19 | 0:56:22 | |
there's a lot of Victorian, Edwardian houses | 0:56:22 | 0:56:25 | |
and they've become timeless so I do think that it could be redesigned. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:29 | |
So I would recommend refusal. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:32 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:56:32 | 0:56:34 | |
If there are no other speakers, it has been moved for refusal. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:42 | |
All those in favour of refusal, please show. | 0:56:42 | 0:56:46 | |
Against. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:51 | |
That has been carried for refusal. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:53 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:56:53 | 0:56:54 | |
The council has dismissed the planners' recommendation | 0:57:00 | 0:57:03 | |
and it's a third victory for the local objectors. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
Satisfied. We've done it again. Mind you, they'll apply again, probably. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:11 | |
Hopefully they'll come up with a reasonable scheme next time. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:14 | |
Let's go and crack open the champagne now, eh? | 0:57:14 | 0:57:16 | |
Yeah, let's go down the pub. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:17 | |
Yeah, frustrated a little bit | 0:57:18 | 0:57:19 | |
because it keeps going in and out, in and out, in and out and... | 0:57:19 | 0:57:22 | |
HE SIGHS | 0:57:22 | 0:57:25 | |
..when's it all going to stop? | 0:57:25 | 0:57:26 | |
So now I'll have to go back to the drawing board and speak to Luigi, | 0:57:26 | 0:57:31 | |
speak to the building consultant, see which way we are going to move now. | 0:57:31 | 0:57:35 | |
Today didn't go well for the Fantozzis | 0:57:35 | 0:57:38 | |
but this isn't necessarily the end of the road | 0:57:38 | 0:57:41 | |
for their block of flats. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:43 | |
There's always a chance the developer will go away and appeal. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:46 | |
Either that or he'll go away, have a rethink, lick his wounds and he's | 0:57:46 | 0:57:50 | |
welcome to come to us with the next lot of pre-application discussions. | 0:57:50 | 0:57:55 | |
We're always here, 9-5 weekdays, 9-1 Saturdays, with an open ear. | 0:57:55 | 0:58:02 | |
Next time, a planner has a dilemma... | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
My decision could be the ceasing of his business. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:08 | |
..an applicant puts his plans in the hands of a higher authority... | 0:58:08 | 0:58:12 | |
I'm not in control, planners are not in control - God is in control. | 0:58:12 | 0:58:17 | |
..and an objector looks on the bright side. | 0:58:17 | 0:58:19 | |
I might come and look at Jacuzzi Suzie with her top off | 0:58:19 | 0:58:23 | |
and say, "I've got a perfect right to be stood here looking at you, love." | 0:58:23 | 0:58:26 |