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Planning battles
are raging across Britain. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
I love the countryside. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:07 | |
So do I, mate. So leave it alone. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
I don't have time for nimbys. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:10 | |
No to the student village! | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
In a drive to boost the economy, | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
the government has relaxed
planning laws. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
Here we are, with a massive
planning application. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
It is a big project. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:21 | |
You're talking about 270 million
of economic benefit. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
I mean, we like to see enterprise,
but not on our doorstep. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
So developers are cashing in. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
Of course I'm here to make a buck -
guilty as charged. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
Objectors are going to war. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
It's not morally right,
it's not socially right. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
Disgusting. Totally stitched up. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
I'm not having that they were
frightened of a bunch of pensioners! | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
Deciding who wins
are Britain's planners. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
I can't sit on the fence. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
Well, it's not a fence,
it's railings. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
Tonight... | 0:00:59 | 0:01:00 | |
No to the student village! | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
..Chester residents revolt
over plans to build on green belt. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:07 | |
I think it's time maybe
to move the bus. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
Plans to extend a children's home | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
create a moral dilemma
for councillors. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
It's extremely difficult, | 0:01:14 | 0:01:15 | |
because the children's interests
have to be considered as well. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
And can residents get this business
closed down? | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
I get really annoyed.
This isn't an industrial area. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
It's just not on. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:26 | |
Last year,
nearly half a million students | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
were admitted to UK universities - | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
the highest number of enrolments
ever reported. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
In Chester alone, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:47 | |
the student community grew
by 4% in 2013 | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
and there are currently about
16,800 students at the university. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
It's brilliant, the community feel
around everything is so nice. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
You can't walk past people
and not smile at them. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
Even at 8.30am
for the first lecture of the day. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
You don't get up for that time?
Lectures start at 9am, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
so everybody is up and raring to go. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
900 students currently live
on Chester University's campus. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
Well over 2,000 rent private houses
in the city's Garden Quarter. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
Students love living
in the Garden Quarter | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
because it's so close to town. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:25 | |
And Chester is such a beautiful city, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
everybody loves the hub
around the city, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
the things it's got to offer. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:30 | |
Students may enjoy Chester, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
but the feeling
is not always mutual. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
Can you see how shabby
everything looks? | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
Avril Coady is the secretary
of the local community forum | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
and has been living
in the Garden Quarter for 40 years. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
It is the area
that abuts the university, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
it is next door to the university. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:54 | |
It is a convenient area, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
it is one where the students
can roll out of bed | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
and be at the lectures
within five, ten minutes. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
Hence its convenience
and hence the fact it has gone down. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
Mostly, it is noise. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:11 | |
It is noise throughout the night. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
Always, somewhere in this area,
there will be a party. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
This is the kind of thing
that we have to deal with | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
on a constant basis. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
Is it fair? | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
Is it fair
that we should pay our council tax | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
for this kind of thing? | 0:03:27 | 0:03:28 | |
What we would hope would happen | 0:03:30 | 0:03:31 | |
is that this area could slowly,
slowly revert to what it was, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:36 | |
which was a community,
family-based area. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
A developer has come up with an idea | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
which could be the answer
to Avril's prayers | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
and it's currently in the hands
of Head Planner Fiona Edwards. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
I look forward to coming to work
every day. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
For me, it is about...leaving
some form of legacy behind me, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
because you don't get an opportunity
to do that very often, | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
unless you are really famous
or talented, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
and as I am neither of those, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
I'll just try to make a building
that looks half-decent | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
and I can say, "I had
a bit of influence on that." | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
It's not just one building
Fiona has to consider today. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
Bell Developments
has proposed the construction | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
of 41 new blocks of flats | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
to provide shared accommodation
for 2,300 students. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
They would be built on Chester's
green belt in the suburb of Blacon. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
What they are proposing | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
is to spread
the student accommodation | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
all around the site | 0:04:33 | 0:04:34 | |
and this central area would be
the hub, with the facilities | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
and some accommodation in it. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
The site itself is 27 hectares,
so that is a massive site. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
The city's planning committee | 0:04:46 | 0:04:47 | |
rejected a similar application
in the past. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
But given the amount
of popular support for the scheme, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
the developer decided to slightly
reduce the number of apartments | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
and resubmit the plans. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
There is a growing body of residents
of the city | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
that feel it is about time
we dealt with the problems | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
of what is being termed
"studentification". | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
Fiona knows
that green-lighting the scheme | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
would make Chester residents happy, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
but she has just acquired
some brand-new objectors. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
It looks Stalin-esque,
architecturally. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
It is a kind of '60s, '70s type
of NCP car park build. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
And some have described it | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
as looking like an open prison. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
Nail technicians Yvonne Jones
and Ruth Shaw | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
are the founders of a Blacon-based
nail-cutting service | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
for older people. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:40 | |
After seeing what might be built
in front of their houses, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
they have decided
to file a complaint. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
We have got a valuable amenity
on our doorstep, the green belt, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
and we care about it. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:51 | |
Because Blacon has been
a vast council housing estate, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
there's a perception that people
don't fight their cause. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
They're either lazy,
they can't be bothered | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
and that's not the case. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
Ruth and Yvonne are looking
for supporters | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
as they start their campaign
against the scheme. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
I just don't want a student village
at all. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
Will they be able to come through
here and walk through? Yes. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
Will they?
There are designated areas | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
for them to walk through. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
No. Definitely against it, 100%. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
It was nice to meet you. Thank you.
Take care, bye-bye! | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
AVRIL: Hello, you! | 0:06:34 | 0:06:35 | |
Nice to see you. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
Nice to see you, too. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
While on the other side of town, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
Avril has invited
city centre residents | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
to set up a campaign in favour
of the new student village. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
I've had my car scratched
down the side, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
they bounce along the tops
of your cars. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
We want a student village | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
not in order to take all
the students away from this area, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
but in order to create
a balance throughout the city - | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
that is all we're asking for. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:04 | |
But the power to recommend approval
or refusal for the scheme | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
is in the planners' hands. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
And they will publish their decision
in 12 weeks. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
It's a real shame
that some local residents | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
don't understand the value
the students bring to the city | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
and it really is a small minority
ruining it for everyone. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
Without students, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
there would be a huge deficit
of vibrancy and excitement | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
that students do bring
to that part of town. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
In the next 25 years, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
the population of Britain is set
to grow by almost 10 million people. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
As communities expand, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:41 | |
local councils
are under increasing pressure | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
to build thousands of new homes. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
But it's not just residents
above the ground | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
who are struggling for space. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:51 | |
Recent reports suggest almost half
of England's cemeteries | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
could be full in the next decade. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:57 | |
In Winsford, Cheshire, | 0:08:00 | 0:08:01 | |
one local businessman is taking
this grave matter seriously. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:06 | |
Think we ought to pick this one
up a bit, Dave, or not? | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
Retired farmer Allen Plumbley | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
has been burying the dead
for nearly 60 years. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
Six foot eight -
keep that right, Tom. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
He has got the measure
of the industry, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
after digging his first grave
at the age of only 15. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
You can have a cardboard coffin,
a wicker coffin, seagrass, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:26 | |
an ordinary coffin. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
You can have it decorated
to whatever you want. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
You can have vegetables on it, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
a canal boat, anything you want. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
Families can do
their own internments, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
they can help to dig the grave
if they would like to | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
and they can also help to fill it up. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
You can fetch your mother-in-law
in the back of the car, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
have a grave
and put her straight in! | 0:08:47 | 0:08:48 | |
Five years ago, Allen converted
an unused section of his land | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
into a traditional graveyard,
and recently, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
he started offering specialist,
ecologically friendly burials. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:03 | |
Green burials
and environmentally friendly burials, | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
where you probably like
the countryside | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
or you've been into gardening
or hiking | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
and you want to be away
from the maddening crowd. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
You can put bulbs in
over the winter - | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
anything, plant-wise. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:20 | |
Foxgloves, primroses... | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
Anything you would find
in a woodland. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
Allen's green graves
have been a big hit with the locals, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
dying to claim one of his plots. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
You can go there, if you wanted. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
We sort it out before you go and
you know what you're getting. Yes. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
I've got a tree down here
where I'm going under, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
a nice copper beech. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:44 | |
That is my resting place. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:47 | |
There's nothing like
knowing where you're going. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
My dad always said,
"It can't be so bad when you go, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
"because nobody's ever come back." | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
The existing woodland cemetery
will be full in three years | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
so Allen has applied
for planning permission | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
to extend the site,
using another bit of his land. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
This is the new site. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:09 | |
It's approximately six acres, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
which should last somewhere
in the region of 30 years. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
But Allen must get
planning permission | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
before he can start work
on the extension. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
It is over to Cheshire West
planning manager Nial Casselden | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
to run the rule over the scheme. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
Got a few cemeteries
dotted around the place, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
but we don't really get that many
applications to extend them | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
and we certainly get even less | 0:10:38 | 0:10:39 | |
for...green burial sites. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
It's pretty unusual. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
When you compare it
to their current site, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
it's larger than both
the formal standard cemetery area | 0:10:48 | 0:10:53 | |
and the green burial area
that they have in the back. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
This particular application
is on the edge of the town | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
so it's in an area which is
designated as open countryside. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:05 | |
But it is quite near
to people's houses. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
Some people might see it
as a bit ghoulish, perhaps, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
to have a large field full of people
buried right next to them. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:15 | |
Next door to the cemetery, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
one local resident
is horrified by the plans. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
The road is 30mph, | 0:11:23 | 0:11:24 | |
we regularly get people
in the high 40s, close to 50. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
Highway planning engineer
Simon Boone | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
has been keeping a keen eye
on his neighbour's application | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
and is hoping to shoot down
Allen's plans. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
48. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
What does concern me | 0:11:40 | 0:11:41 | |
is visitors en masse,
after a funeral, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
going out onto the road. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:45 | |
So when there is an increase
in a lot of vehicle numbers | 0:11:45 | 0:11:50 | |
that have just come from a funeral,
then it is going to be an issue. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
That was a funeral car
going past at 24. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
There is nobody here
that's bothered about it, really. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
We've only got one objector this time
and he's not going to worry me. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
Not one little bit. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
On this hedge line
is the start of the cemetery. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
There are often funerals
taking place | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
literally just by the hedge line. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
It is intrusive. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:20 | |
And you can hear a whole funeral, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
you can hear people wailing
during the funeral | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
while you are in the house. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:27 | |
Simon has formally objected
to Allen's application. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
The planners must now decide | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
whether to take his side
or bury the new graveyard for good. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
There are a lot of uses
you grant permission for, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
maybe they will be there
for a few decades, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
but a cemetery is pretty permanent. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
It is going to be there
long after we have all shuffled off. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
Might even end up in it, who knows! | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
In the UK, planners can take action | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
against businesses that operate
without planning permission. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
They have the power to issue fines
of up to £20,000, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
but they can also help the business
become legal. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
but they can also help the business
become legal. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:25 | |
In Llantarnam, South Wales,
ex-takeaway owner Spiro Callus | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
has spent 30 years tending
to his much-loved garden. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
We have fig trees, apple trees.
We've got a pear tree there. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
Another apple tree over there.
Another fig tree over there. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
But these plants have recently
been watered | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
a bit too often for Spiro's liking. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
If there's strong wind,
it spreads the spray all over. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
It travels for quite a distance. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
15 months ago, a car wash was set up
without planning permission | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
on the site of a disused garage. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
Since then,
life changed dramatically | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
for its neighbour, Spiro. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
Don't tell me that's not noisy,
the water pressure, you know? | 0:14:08 | 0:14:13 | |
How can one put up with all the noise
seven days a week? | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
We've all looked after our houses, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
tried to make them look
as presentable as possible. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
And then we've got that. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:31 | |
It's just not on. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
Another resident unwilling
to put up with the car wash | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
is part-time beautician
and single mum of two, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
Beverley Holyfield. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
I can hear that very clearly
when I'm lying in bed. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
It's industrial cleaning
and we're not in an industrial area. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
It shouldn't be here. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:49 | |
Beverley lives directly opposite
the car wash, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
which is operating
without planning permission | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
and has recently built a new fence
to block out her unsightly view. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:59 | |
The wall is about 4.5ft high. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
Then another 3ft at its maximum
height with the fence, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
which is actually making it illegal,
unfortunately. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
I'm just waiting for the planners
to write me a letter | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
and say I don't have permission
for the fence, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
which would be ironic. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:16 | |
Torfaen's planner Richard Lewis
is heading to Llantarnam. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
When I was in school, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
I wanted to be an architect. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
But they did a careers evening | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
and this guy talked about planning
and made it sound very exciting. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
I thought, at that stage,
"I think I want to be a planner." | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
So...I haven't regretted
my decision. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
Not yet anyway. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:47 | |
The car wash in Llantarnam
wants to continue trading | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
and has submitted a retrospective
planning application... | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
Richard Lewis,
I'm the head of planning. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
..which Richard is now considering. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
Do you get noise
from the vacuum cleaner as well | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
or is it mainly the...? A little.
It's mainly the jet washers. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
And the aesthetics
is what bothers us. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
Right, yeah, yeah. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:12 | |
There are a range of issues
that they are concerned about - | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
traffic impact,
spray from the car wash, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
the look of it, the signs
that have been put up there. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
Obviously, it is not just negative. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:24 | |
There is a business being run here | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
and people are employed
by the business. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
Our job is looking at those
objections, those issues, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
and evaluating them to see
whether or not they are so bad | 0:16:33 | 0:16:38 | |
as to warrant the refusal
of an application | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
or whether that impact
is not that significant. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
In their bid to straighten out
their business, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
the car wash has employed
planning consultant Gereint Hurst. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
This new use of the site
will not affect local residents, | 0:16:53 | 0:17:00 | |
however much they protest. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
Part of the planning process
is producing evidence | 0:17:03 | 0:17:08 | |
to back up your argument. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
Now, as part of our application, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
we addressed the noise issue
by getting an acoustic report in. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
The conclusion of that report | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
highlighted that there was
no real impact | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
on the residential amenity
of the area | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
and that it is acceptable. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
Gereint may be confident | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
but planner Richard decided to check
the sound levels for himself. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
Do you mind if we plug this, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
just about where Peter's setting up,
there? | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
All right. OK. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:43 | |
He's brought along Environmental
Health Officer Peter Oates. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
Peter spends his day
attending to noise complaints. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
We listen to all sorts of noises. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
The most common ones
are dogs barking and loud music. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
It can be people running up
and downstairs | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
in the neighbouring property,
noise from water pipes, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
and noise from bedroom activities
we occasionally get as well. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
Did we get enough of the car
being washed? | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
I think we've got a good sample. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:17 | |
There's enough of the range,
I think, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
of washing, for our purposes. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:22 | |
The assessment we need to make
is whether that sound we can hear | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
is actually harmful to amenity. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
People may argue that consent
should've be granted first. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
But there's a number of people
that would be affected | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
if this were to shut. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:38 | |
Employees... | 0:18:41 | 0:18:42 | |
200 miles north in Cheshire,
a controversial application | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
to build a student village
on the green belt of Chester | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
has divided the local population. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
It's a really big application. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
It is a big intrusion
into the green belt. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
There are action groups
both for and against it | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
and it's got its absolute
vociferous supporters | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
and its equally vociferous
objectors. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
Residents of Blacon, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
the site of the proposed
student village, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
have gathered 2,600 signatures
against the scheme. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
In the city centre,
over 1,500 residents | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
have signed their own petition
in favour, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
hoping it will drive the students
out of the neighbourhood. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
But hoping to sway the planners
into recommending approval, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
the developers have now revised
their application. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
Along with the student village, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
they are proposing the construction
of a sports centre, | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
designed and run
by Sir Steve Redgrave. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
The concept is over three years
in the making. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
Sir Steve Redgrave has been involved
for two years. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
It is meant to be
an integrated academic institute | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
for accommodation and sports. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
The new sports centre would have
a full-sized football pitch, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:03 | |
a fitness centre
and a physiotherapy clinic | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
to cater for students on site
as well as professional athletes. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
It is a big project. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
You are talking about 100 million
to build the facility, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
you are talking about 270 million
of economic benefit. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
1,000 jobs over five years. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
It seems to me to be
the perfect location | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
for an integrated
sports and student accommodation. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
We have Sir Steve. Images of
his sporting achievements. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
Planner Fiona is evaluating
the new plans before she makes | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
a recommendation on the scheme. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
I will admit that Sir Steve Redgrave
is one of my sporting heroes. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
I have his first autobiography. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
But it won't influence us in any way, | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
because we do have to make decisions
based on planning policies | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
and based on all the material
considerations, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
and unfortunately, as fantastic
as Sir Steve has been
for this country, | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
him being involved isn't
a material planning consideration. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
So, it won't influence me
or the committee members in any way. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
Also in Cheshire, Planning Manager
Nial Casselden is assessing | 0:21:09 | 0:21:14 | |
an application that's
a matter of life or death. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
He's come to meet gravedigger
Allen Plumbley | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
who's applied for
planning permission | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
to treble the size of his
ecologically friendly burial ground. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
Good afternoon. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
Hi there, Nial Casselden
from the planning department. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
I'm Allen Plumbley. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
Is it a mixture of normal
burials and cremations? | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
Yes. Right, OK. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:35 | |
It's quite quiet, as well. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:38 | |
I know you're next to a main road.
It's lovely, it's just peaceful. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
It is a peaceful area.
My tenants don't make any noise! | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
No, I was going to say,
with these kind of proposals, | 0:21:45 | 0:21:50 | |
noise isn't usually something
that becomes... | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
No problem, really,
with anybody overlooking us. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
Noise may not be an issue
with this application, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
but Nial has other potentially
serious concerns. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
The kind of issues that we need
to consider are, | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
impact on anyone who is
living around the site, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
ecology, also ground water
is an issue | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
that is particularly relevant | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
to burial sites. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:13 | |
There are strict rules about how
close you can have burial sites
to underground water supplies. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:21 | |
The cemetery is a stone's throw
away from The Winsford Flashes, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:26 | |
the area's largest lake system. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
Nial has to be sure that Allen's
natural interments aren't | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
polluting the local water supply. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
Objector Simon Boone has also
picked up on the potential
pollution problem. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
What you've got is a series
of ditch courses, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
and these ditch courses lead
eventually to the flashes. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
And there are also some small ponds,
as well, in these fields. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
This isn't drinking water, | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
but further along here it could get
into the system that we all use. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:07 | |
My concern is what type of burials
we are dealing with | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
and how that will affect
the water course. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
You picture people getting
buried in wicker baskets | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
and then seeping out into, you know,
the water table. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
I'm told that isn't the case,
and let's hope it isn't. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
It's a very serious issue, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
so the onus is on the applicant
to show us that it is possible | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
to carry out the development
without causing any big problems, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
so, for a burial site,
it's up to the applicant | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
to do a survey of the site
and to provide the information | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
and show us that it's not
going to affect groundwater. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
If for whatever reason it shows
there might be a problem, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
then we have little choice
but to refuse the application | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
on the grounds of an unacceptable
impact on the environment. | 0:23:55 | 0:24:00 | |
Allen must now prove to the planners
that the site is safe. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
I'm digging a test hole
to test for the groundwater level. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:18 | |
We are supposed to dig
a metre below the depth. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
Striking water now could mean
a definite refusal. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
If I find water,
I'll be digging my own grave! | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
Britain's planners receive
over half a million letters
of objection every year. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
In the chocolate box
Cotswolds countryside, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
a community is up in arms against
the latest planning application. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:58 | |
I have always said about Box, people
think it is just a collection | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
of lovely Cotswold cottages. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
But 50% of what makes this village
is the people who live in them | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
because they do take part.
Brian lives just opposite here, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
he writes the pantomimes
for the children. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
I think you're doing your fourth
rewrite of this year's!
Fourth rewrite of Treasure Island. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:17 | |
That phone box is well known locally
because it is a library. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
Talk of the devil,
here comes Carolyn
who looks after the library. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:25 | |
Our librarian! | 0:25:25 | 0:25:26 | |
Don't film me today, please! | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
It is a community. It is not just
a set of 90-odd houses. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
We do need as many people
contributing to this village
as we possibly can. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:40 | |
Which is our concern,
where private dwellings get consumed
for other purposes. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:45 | |
The Cotswold Chine school,
which looks after
60 children with special needs | 0:25:47 | 0:25:52 | |
bought these three cottages and has
applied for planning permission
to turn them into care homes. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:58 | |
But parish councillor Steve has
objected on behalf of the residents. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
I am very supportive
of what the school does. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
There is a great drive
for expansion of the school. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
Which now means they've got to start
cannibalising the village
to get the space. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:13 | |
They already have the pub
next door, that's closed now,
has been for a year or so. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:19 | |
They recently purchased the woods
and tried to limit | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
the freedom of residents to walk
the woods as they had for years. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
Jake Lucas is the school's
principal. He's been at the school
for 21 years. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:35 | |
Try not to limp. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
I broke my ankle playing football
with the teachers. That was stupid. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
You shouldn't do it at 45 | 0:26:42 | 0:26:43 | |
but I thought it was a good idea
at the time. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
Jake knows that, following the
school's expansion in recent years, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
the residents of the village
are feeling boxed in. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
I've heard remarks made
and I've seen objections. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
The school provides education | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
and care for young people
between the ages of eight to 19, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:05 | |
who have experienced childhood trauma
or childhood adversity. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:11 | |
I think there have been
some complications in the past | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
concerning our use
of the Halfway Cafe, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
which obviously we changed
from a public house into a cafe. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
We purchased Box Woods
because we know | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
that our young people
really need safe, outdoor space, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
where they can run around and play. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
What could be better
than your own wood? | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
I don't think that vulnerable people
with a disability | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
living in a village is an intrusion. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
The residents asked to be consulted
about any new expansion
to the school, | 0:27:43 | 0:27:48 | |
but they don't think
their views are being considered. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
The dominant argument is
that they must always think of
the children first, above all else. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:57 | |
While I understand their duty is
to look after the children, | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
it seems to be, in this case,
at the expense of the community
which they are part of. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
The school's application is now
in the hands of the planners. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
The application is for
the three buildings to my left. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
They are right on the periphery of
the school. This is the school here. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:27 | |
Then we have the village of Box
running down here. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
Normally it wouldn't be
a complicated issue. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
Here we are in the hamlet of Box,
where the community is very strong | 0:28:33 | 0:28:38 | |
and feelings run very high about
any change of use of residence. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
You have a big institution
and a small community. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
There might be a perception | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
that the school is going to
subsume the village. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
I'm trying to prepare people
for leaving care. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
You can see that the table was set
this morning by the young people. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
They would have had their breakfast
in here, and then they clear
the dishes away, | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
they wash up and set the table
for their own lunch. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
That's very important, that there's
a sense of structure and rhythm
and routine to the day. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
Planner Phil has eight weeks
to come up with his recommendation. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:19 | |
We've had quite a few objections
already to this application. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
So we'll have to look at
what they're saying
and how we can handle that. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:27 | |
If we are not successful,
it may mean | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
young people may have to move back
into some of our larger houses. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
Which seems pretty unfair
when they are progressing to | 0:29:37 | 0:29:42 | |
a level of semi-independence,
ready for moving on. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:47 | |
In South Wales, a car wash has
applied for retrospective | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
planning permission to continue
trading in this residential area. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:07 | |
But with neighbours complaining
about noise, | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
the planners commissioned
a sound test | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
before making their recommendation. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
Results have just come in. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:16 | |
When we are dealing with
subjective issues such as noise | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
and the way noise affects people,
we have to look at the numbers. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
And while there may be
some irritation factors | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
or annoyance factors of this,
I don't think | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
they are sufficiently large enough
that we would say that this | 0:30:31 | 0:30:36 | |
has necessarily got a health effect
on the people living next to it. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
It's bad news for the neighbours
of the car wash. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
When a new noise comes
to an environment, | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
when you haven't experienced it, we
all notice it more, as people accept | 0:30:46 | 0:30:52 | |
road noise because there is very
little that can be done about it. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
With Environmental Health
giving the all-clear, | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
planner Richard can now
make his recommendation. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
From a statutory noise point of
view, there is no issue, it is | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
not a statutory noise problem. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
So we recommend
the application be approved. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
The planners may have recommended
approval, but there is a lifeline | 0:31:18 | 0:31:23 | |
for Spiro and the other seven
objectors, as it will be down to the | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
local planning committee to make the
final decision on this application. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
The noise by my patio,
it really gets you. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
HE IMITATES THE CAR WASH | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
Yes. You know? Yeah. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
It gets you crazy. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
26-year-old councillor David Daniels
will be among the people
making that decision. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
But since he is also the ward
councillor for this area, | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
he has come to offer advice
to these objectors. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
I would recommend you guys make
a representation on the day. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
If you want to argue your case
effectively, | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
I would exercise
your democratic right to speak. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
I think it is actually important
to convey to the committee | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
how much of an effect
it has on you guys. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
It may not refer to planning policy,
but it still counts, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
that's what the committee
is there for. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
It's not the first time
Councillor Daniels has got | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
summoned by worried residents
ahead of planning committees. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
I am quite familiar with
the concerns that this group
have got now. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:26 | |
So it's all about drawing up some
questions for the committee to ask | 0:32:26 | 0:32:31 | |
and get answers for them, basically. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:33 | |
But right now, Councillor Daniels
has a concern of his own. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:37 | |
He is stranded in the rain. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
I'm going to try to find out
whether my mum can give me a lift. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
That's my arrangement at the moment.
Until I can afford a car. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:48 | |
Dreadful with her phone, my mum. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
In Winsford, Cheshire, someone else
is waiting for his phone to ring. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
Grave-digger Allen Plumbley wants
to know the outcome of his burial
planning application. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:12 | |
Will you hear from the planners
soon? I hope so. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
I don't know how they
spend their time. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
He has carried out a series of tests
to check if there is a risk | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
that burials on the site could
pollute the local water supply. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
Doesn't that look nice
and comfortable in there? | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
The results are in and planner Nial
has finally reached a decision. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
Most of the holes came back showing
there was about 300mm of topsoil. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
Which, you know...yay. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
And another 2.5 to 3 metres
of a mixture of clay and sand | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
underneath that, so pretty good soil
for burying people. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:54 | |
So we don't have any objections
on pollution grounds | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
and we can proceed with it. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
MOBILE RINGS | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
Hello. Swanlow Park Cemetery. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
Hello, Allen, it's Nial
from the planning department. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
Hello, how are you? Are you well?
Not so bad, are you good? | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
Not so bad,
I'm in the grave here! Go on. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
It's good news,
we have decided to grant permission. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
So the notice that sets out your
permissions and the conditions
we have attached to it, | 0:34:25 | 0:34:30 | |
that will be with you
in a couple of days. Thank you. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
Ta-ra. Ta-ra. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
He was actually in a grave,
actually in a grave. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:42 | |
A little bit creepy, isn't it? | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
You wouldn't get me
sat in a grave, definitely not. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
Allen has got the green light. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
With just one objector, | 0:34:54 | 0:34:55 | |
his case won't need to go
to the full planning committee. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
But he hasn't had it all
his own way. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
The conditions that
the council put on, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
whereby we can't bury anyone
within ten metres of any boundary, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:07 | |
will reduce the site
by about a third. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
It will be all right.
Just have to put them a bit closer. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
Next-door neighbour Simon
may have lost his fight | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
to stop the development,
but he is seeing the funny side. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
Dead good water, that! | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
I'm not surprised, it's what
I expected, to be honest. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
More quiet neighbours next door! | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
Also in Cheshire, a proposed new
development | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
stands to drive 2,000
university students | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
away from Chester city centre
into the green belt. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
With a massive number of supporters
and objectors from both sides
of the city, | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
it has been decided that, for
the first time in Chester's history, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:04 | |
every elected councillor will vote
on this planning application. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
There is clearly a lot of disquiet
about this application | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
and I think people feel,
rightly or wrongly, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
that it will get a fairer hearing
at a full council meeting. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
The application will be determined
in a democratic manner. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
Our recommendation as officers
will go to a body of members, | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
to have an open, honest,
transparent debate, | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
and members will come to a view
on the application. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
The councillors,
including an ex-police sergeant, | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
a theology student and the manager
of a salt mine, are about to visit | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
the proposed site
of the student village,
in preparation for the vote. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
The tension builds!
Why do you say that? | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
Everyone has just gone quiet
now the bus has started. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
Shout for Harry! | 0:36:59 | 0:37:00 | |
Kingdom! And St George! | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
Ready for the arrival
of the councillors, | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
residents have prepared
a special welcome committee. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
I, as a revolting pensioner, object. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:16 | |
But then I object
to most things in life. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
That is why
I am permanently revolting. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
The councillors' first glimpse
of the student village site | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
is from a clearing
a mile away from the residents. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
If we are sitting here in 15 years'
time, what would our aspect be like? | 0:37:30 | 0:37:35 | |
Would it be basically a range of
buildings across the skyline?
Would it be that? | 0:37:35 | 0:37:40 | |
Yes, it is a big development and
it will be obvious looking at it. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
Anyone have a question for members? | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
Shall we move on then? | 0:37:46 | 0:37:47 | |
The community has certainly got
together over it, haven't they? | 0:37:52 | 0:37:57 | |
They are obviously all keen
to let us know their feelings, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
that they don't like it. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
Normally the councillors would
disembark from the coach | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
to explore the site,
but this time they choose not to. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
Do you want to stay here?
We'll stay here, thank you. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
It's difficult
if there are a lot of protesters. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
Normally it's easier to stay away. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
We are all pensioners,
what can they be frightened of? | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
You'd be surprised! | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
Let's let their tyres down! | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
How about parading around the bus?
Come on. I'm game. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:29 | |
I am going to put my cup of tea down. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
No to the student village! | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
At what point
could the developers say, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
"I am going to sell these
as houses"? | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
We have to make sure whatever
decision we make is pertinent | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
to the application in front of
us now, we cannot go into
the realms of speculation. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:52 | |
I think it's time maybe to move
the bus, if you don't mind? | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
Can they read? | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
I think we need to move away
from here. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
OK, if we are all done,
let's move away. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
And I'm not having that they were
frightened of a bunch of pensioners. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:09 | |
You tell them. Even if we are
revolting. I can't believe that! | 0:39:09 | 0:39:15 | |
You didn't get out. Why was that? | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
I was thinking of getting out, but
not wanting to go against advice. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:22 | |
I don't believe this council.
I'm not voting next time. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
Having seen the site, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
the councillors will gather again
tomorrow | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
to give the final verdict
on this application. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
They will not build
that student village there. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
To spoil that. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
No. It can't happen. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
And there's someone else hoping to
create new student accommodation. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
In Box, Gloucestershire, | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
the Chine School wants to
turn these three cottages | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
into residential care homes
for its special needs pupils. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
It's been a controversial
application | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
with 54 objections
from local residents, | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
but head planner Phil Skill has
made up his mind on this case. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
Given that this is merely
three houses in a row | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
already in the ownership
of the school, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
how can I demonstrate that
that change is harmful? | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
To be quite honest,
I don't think I can. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
In these circumstances,
I think we'd be hard pushed | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
not to be recommending permission,
so permission is what's recommended. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
It's a bitter blow
for the residents. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
There are about 100 buildings
in Box. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
In the past 20 years,
the school bought five of them, | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
as well as the local woods,
and the local pub, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
which was turned into a cafe. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
Half price, Fosters. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
We're trying to get rid of it! | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
Yeah, have a drink, for God's sake. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
We open the village hall
and we have a pay bar. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
All the villagers come
and catch up on the news. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
After losing the pub,
the residents feel | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
like they're being pushed aside
by the school's expansion. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
Bit by bit,
they've encroached on our village | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
and it's beginning
to affect village life, | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
it's beginning
to affect our community, | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
and we seem a bit powerless
to stop what's been happening. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
But not all is lost
for the Box objectors. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
The final decision on
the school's latest application | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
is down to the 12 elected members
of the planning committee, | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
who have the power to go against
planner Phil's recommendations. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
There are two sides to every story, | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
so it will be interesting to see
what it looks like, geographically. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:03 | |
And we have to make a judgement | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
based on all the facts
in front of us. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
It's not surprising that,
on a committee of 12 people, | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
there will be 12 different opinions. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
And they will all
be different to mine. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
From a planning point of view,
if the houses had a resident adult | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
who lived there permanently, | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
and the children lived
with them as boarders, | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
that would be a house and therefore
there'd be no change of use. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
The issue before you
is the use of a rota carer, | 0:42:37 | 0:42:42 | |
rather than a permanent carer.
That's the difference. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
It becomes more like
a children's home. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
And it's that change
which is being applied for. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
If the application is approved, | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
the houses will cease to be
ordinary residential dwellings. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
I think what we have got to unravel
here is what the actual application | 0:42:57 | 0:43:02 | |
is saying, rather than what
the feelings of the villagers are. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
It is an extremely difficult
application, actually. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:11 | |
Because the children's interests
have to be considered as well, | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
and that's the primary concern
that I have. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
The councillors will gather
to give their verdict in four days. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
In Llantarnam, south Wales,
the local planning committee | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
is also about to gather to decide | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
whether to give permission for
this car wash to keep trading. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
The youngest committee member | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
is 26-year-old animal behaviour
graduate David Daniels, | 0:43:40 | 0:43:44 | |
who was elected 18 months ago. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
I guess I am a bit different
from your average councillor. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:50 | |
People say,
"Oh, you're young for a counsellor." | 0:43:50 | 0:43:53 | |
and they are quite happy to see
something a bit different. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
Is that someone's birthday? | 0:43:56 | 0:43:59 | |
LAUGHING: It was
my birthday last week. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:03 | |
This is a card from
my nan and granddad's dog. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:07 | |
I love my grandparents.
They're brilliant. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
They give money
and then I get lots of sweets | 0:44:12 | 0:44:14 | |
because they know I love sweets. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
Is it working now? | 0:44:22 | 0:44:24 | |
Right. Is it working now? | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
FEEDBACK ON MICROPHONE | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
After carrying out a sound test,
the planners are satisfied | 0:44:29 | 0:44:33 | |
the car wash is quiet enough
for them to recommend approval. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
Good afternoon, everyone.
It's working. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
But when voting time comes, these
elected councillors have the power | 0:44:40 | 0:44:43 | |
to overturn that recommendation
and close the business. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:47 | |
There's no reason why
they should allow this to go ahead. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:50 | |
We have put up with it
for 18 months. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
It's made our life a misery for 18
months. We just want it to stop now. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
Making his argument for the car wash | 0:44:58 | 0:45:00 | |
is planning consultant
Gereint Hurst. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
We feel that we have addressed
those issues. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:05 | |
We've undertaken
an independent report | 0:45:05 | 0:45:08 | |
with regards to noise
and general disturbance, | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
which your own professional
environmental health officers | 0:45:11 | 0:45:15 | |
have corroborated. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:17 | |
The outcome is, there is little
impact on the residential amenity. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:22 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:24 | |
Then it's Beverley's turn. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:30 | |
We live on a road
where we take great pride | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
in the appearance of our homes.
But, in the last 18 months, | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
it has felt as if we live
on an industrial estate. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:39 | |
Normally the jet wash is loud enough
to wake me up on a Sunday morning. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:43 | |
The building is unsightly,
badly maintained, | 0:45:43 | 0:45:46 | |
there's rubbish left there regularly | 0:45:46 | 0:45:48 | |
and it's not a suitable place
to be washing cars. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
No... It is just horrific. It is
not the place for this. Thank you. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:56 | |
We are voting now
to approve this application. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:03 | |
It's now down to the councillors
to decide on this application | 0:46:03 | 0:46:07 | |
with a show of hands. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:09 | |
We'll vote on that now. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:11 | |
The car wash has wiped the floor
with the objectors. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
Every single councillor | 0:46:14 | 0:46:15 | |
has voted in favour
of their application. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:18 | |
That's unanimous, so this
application has been approved. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:21 | |
Was it a difficult one for you?
It was a difficult one... | 0:46:24 | 0:46:28 | |
because, to trade being there... | 0:46:28 | 0:46:29 | |
They are jobs, at the end of the day. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
Especially in this climate. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:33 | |
It's about striking the balance
between the impact on residents | 0:46:33 | 0:46:37 | |
and then a trade being there,
basically. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:41 | |
I guess you are not going
to be popular with residents? | 0:46:41 | 0:46:44 | |
That's not why we're in the
planning committee, though, is it? | 0:46:44 | 0:46:48 | |
You're not in the
planning committee to be popular. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:51 | |
For the residents, it's a whitewash. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:53 | |
Make them sit outside on my patio,
and see how they stand it. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:58 | |
How they stand the noise
or the spray. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:02 | |
My wife is having
a nervous breakdown. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:04 | |
But there you go. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
You try and do everything right
and do you get any justice? | 0:47:07 | 0:47:09 | |
This doesn't feel like justice. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
All I want to be able to do
is open my bedroom curtains | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
and not just look at a load
of cars, vans and tractors | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
being washed outside
of my bedroom window. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
Not a lot we can do about it now.
I have to go. Thanks. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:24 | |
24 hours later, | 0:47:37 | 0:47:39 | |
Beverley has found the ultimate
solution for the car wash problem. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:43 | |
She put her house up for sale,
and is looking for a new one. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:47 | |
It's a historic day for Chester. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
For the first time, | 0:47:58 | 0:47:59 | |
all the elected councillors
have been called to decide | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
on a planning application to build
a massive student village | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
on the green belt. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:07 | |
Head planner Fiona Edwards | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
has finally come up with
her own recommendation. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
For us, as officers,
it is a clear-cut refusal. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:16 | |
It is an inappropriate development
in the green belt, | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
for which they need to demonstrate
very special circumstances. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:21 | |
We certainly do not consider
that they have done that. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:24 | |
It is a refusal on those grounds,
but it's also a refusal | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 | |
in terms of the impact on the
historic landscape of the city | 0:48:27 | 0:48:29 | |
and the countryside itself. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
The developers proposed
the construction of a sports centre | 0:48:32 | 0:48:35 | |
run by Sir Steve Redgrave. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:37 | |
But that wasn't enough to sway the
planners into recommending approval. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:41 | |
When voting time comes, however, | 0:48:41 | 0:48:43 | |
these 55 councillors have the power | 0:48:43 | 0:48:45 | |
to go against
the planners' recommendation. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
And Sir Steve Redgrave will
personally try to convince them | 0:48:48 | 0:48:52 | |
to vote in favour of the scheme. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:54 | |
This is going to be a serious
and difficult planning application | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
that we are discussing this evening. | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
So I would ask visitors not to clap,
cheer or heckle in any way at all. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:07 | |
But first to speak is another
supporter of the application, | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
Garden Quarter resident Avril Coady,
who, along with her neighbours, | 0:49:11 | 0:49:15 | |
is hoping students would relocate
away from the city centre. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
Am I on now? Yes? Good. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:22 | |
Chester City is at a tipping point. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
The deterioration in parts of
the city over the last decade | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
have been caused primarily by
the increasing numbers of students | 0:49:28 | 0:49:31 | |
living alongside
permanent residents, | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
who have had to deal with
anti-social behaviour, | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
disruptive street noise, | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
parking problems and verbal abuse. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
How far does this deterioration
have to go | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
before the university and the city
realise that a student village | 0:49:44 | 0:49:49 | |
would address many of these issues? | 0:49:49 | 0:49:51 | |
Your vote tonight will determine
our city's future. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
I make no exaggeration. We need
a student village now. Thank you. | 0:49:54 | 0:50:00 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:50:00 | 0:50:03 | |
This is a planning meeting,
so please refrain from clapping. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:09 | |
Ruth is going to speak
on behalf of the objectors. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:13 | |
Green belt land is a priceless asset
to the United Kingdom. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:18 | |
Given the fact we are a small country
with a large population, | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
it is vital
we preserve open spaces. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
I therefore hope
this particular proposal | 0:50:24 | 0:50:27 | |
will be refused and that the local
people's voice will be heard. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:30 | |
The next speaker has won
six Olympic medals. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:35 | |
But to get permission
to build his sports centre | 0:50:35 | 0:50:37 | |
alongside the student village, | 0:50:37 | 0:50:39 | |
Sir Steve Redgrave will have
to win over 55 councillors. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:42 | |
Chairman, Councillors, | 0:50:44 | 0:50:45 | |
thank you for this opportunity
to speak about our proposal today. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:49 | |
The Redgrave Institute is my vision
for integrated sports delivery, | 0:50:49 | 0:50:53 | |
for aspiring elite athletes,
students, community and our children. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:59 | |
Chester is where I want
my institute to be based. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
It is a good place
with good people who care. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
I think we can do something special
in Chester. Thank you for your time. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:10 | |
The councillors must
now prepare to vote, | 0:51:10 | 0:51:13 | |
as no-one else is scheduled
to speak...officially, at least. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:17 | |
..all of you, for what you
are doing! Please, sit down! | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
Chester resident Julie wants
the students out of the city centre. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:26 | |
You'll have to throw me out. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:29 | |
SCATTERED APPLAUSE | 0:51:29 | 0:51:31 | |
Shame on the lot of you! | 0:51:33 | 0:51:35 | |
We will carry on with the debate
which we have not yet finished. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:41 | |
You should be ashamed! All of you! | 0:51:41 | 0:51:43 | |
Can we just remind members | 0:51:48 | 0:51:50 | |
that decisions can only be made
this evening on planning grounds. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:52 | |
No matter how emotional
you might get about things, | 0:51:52 | 0:51:55 | |
it is planning grounds
that you need to think about. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:58 | |
The planners have
recommended refusal. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:00 | |
Now the time has come
for each councillor to declare | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
if they agree with Fiona's decision. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
We are voting in favour
of the recommendation, | 0:52:06 | 0:52:09 | |
which is to refuse
this application. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:11 | |
Councillor David Armstrong? For. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:17 | |
Councillor Alex Black? For. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
Councillor Tom Blackmore? For. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:23 | |
Councillor Alan McKay? Abstain. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
Councillor Stuart Parker? Against. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:32 | |
SCATTERED APPLAUSE | 0:52:28 | 0:52:32 | |
Councillor Ben Howell? For. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:35 | |
Councillor Keith Board. For! | 0:52:35 | 0:52:37 | |
Things don't look good for the
supporters of the student village. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:41 | |
With just one councillor in favour, | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
51 against and three abstentions,
the scheme has been refused. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:50 | |
Thank you very much. I hope
you all have a safe journey home. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:54 | |
LOUD CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:52:54 | 0:52:57 | |
Ecstatic. | 0:52:57 | 0:52:59 | |
With every "for" there, it was
just even better, wasn't it? | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
I've got to go and celebrate now! | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
They're all kissing each other
down there! | 0:53:06 | 0:53:08 | |
Oh, brilliant! | 0:53:08 | 0:53:10 | |
Oh, definitely a pint.
I'll give you a hug as well. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:13 | |
We have been disregarded totally, | 0:53:16 | 0:53:18 | |
and I say "we", the people of Chester
who have to live with this | 0:53:18 | 0:53:21 | |
on a constant basis. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:23 | |
Where does that leave us? | 0:53:23 | 0:53:25 | |
It leaves us struggling to live
a decent life in an ordinary way. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:29 | |
But were we considered?
No, we weren't. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:31 | |
It's over, finished. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:36 | |
I'm going to find my car
and go home. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
I haven't got any wine in the house,
so I will make a cup of cocoa. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:44 | |
Very boringly! Unless I stop
at the off-licence on the way home, | 0:53:44 | 0:53:48 | |
which is always a possibility. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:50 | |
Bye! Bye! | 0:53:52 | 0:53:54 | |
But there are some students
who could soon be moving premises. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
The application by a Gloucestershire
special needs school | 0:54:05 | 0:54:09 | |
to turn three residential cottages
into care homes for their pupils | 0:54:09 | 0:54:12 | |
has incensed the residents of Box. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
It isn't a problem with having
a school in your backyard, | 0:54:16 | 0:54:19 | |
it's a problem with
a management team | 0:54:19 | 0:54:21 | |
who want to close houses
to make the empire grow. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
Tonight, Stroud's planning committee
will decide | 0:54:24 | 0:54:27 | |
whether to approve or refuse
the school's application. | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
I hope we get the right decision,
and if the planning is approved | 0:54:30 | 0:54:35 | |
in our benefit, it will be
a good result for the young people. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:39 | |
The planners have
recommended approval, | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
but these eight councillors
can decide to overturn | 0:54:43 | 0:54:47 | |
that recommendation after
they've heard both parties' case. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
First to speak is David Jones,
the school's planning consultant. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:55 | |
Paragraph 159 of the MPPF recognises
the need to provide accommodation | 0:54:56 | 0:55:02 | |
to meet the needs of
different groups in the community, | 0:55:02 | 0:55:05 | |
including people with disabilities. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:07 | |
I urge this committee to support
that application and recommendation. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:11 | |
Thank you, members. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
Is there anybody who wishes
to speak against the scheme? | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
Yes, please. Thank you, sir. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
Parish Councillor Steve is speaking
on behalf of the Box objectors. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:24 | |
The Trust has proven it is prepared
to cannibalise the village | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
in the process
of expanding its business. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:30 | |
The loss of three more houses
as conventional domestic dwellings | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
and their use instead
as dormitory accommodation | 0:55:33 | 0:55:36 | |
for students and staff
of the Cotswold Chine School | 0:55:36 | 0:55:38 | |
would diminish still further
the pool of resource | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
from which we can draw
to keep the village a community. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
As the debate opens,
one counsellor takes sides. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:50 | |
This application in front of you
is another example | 0:55:51 | 0:55:53 | |
of Novalis just simply ignoring
their sense of community spirit. | 0:55:53 | 0:55:58 | |
Once you grant this application
for the conversion of three houses, | 0:55:58 | 0:56:03 | |
what more will happen? | 0:56:03 | 0:56:05 | |
How many more houses can they buy? | 0:56:05 | 0:56:08 | |
Enough is enough. We are not,
as a district council, | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
going to support
this creeping and creeping | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
into the community. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:15 | |
Mr Chairman, I would like to move
against officers' advice, please, | 0:56:15 | 0:56:20 | |
and move for refusal. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:21 | |
Refusal is on the table.
All those in favour, please show? | 0:56:24 | 0:56:28 | |
Seven. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:33 | |
All those against, please show? | 0:56:33 | 0:56:36 | |
Abstentions, please? | 0:56:37 | 0:56:39 | |
That is carried. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:43 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:56:43 | 0:56:45 | |
The committee has refused
the application. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:48 | |
The school won't be able to
turn its own houses into care homes. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:52 | |
I think it has been a fair decision
and a right decision. | 0:56:52 | 0:56:55 | |
I'm hoping Cotswold Chine now,
and Novalis, will now say, | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
"OK, we're going to work
with Box residents | 0:56:58 | 0:57:00 | |
"and the district councillors,"
and actually reach a compromise | 0:57:00 | 0:57:03 | |
so the two communities
can get on better. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
The council has made
the correct decision | 0:57:07 | 0:57:10 | |
because that's
the decision they came to. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:13 | |
We'll see whether it's
the right decision if it's appealed. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:17 | |
For the school,
it's not a case of "if" but "when". | 0:57:17 | 0:57:22 | |
Ultimately, it will be
an appeal inspector | 0:57:22 | 0:57:24 | |
who determines
the final decision. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:27 | |
I think it's very upsetting that
we work with a very vulnerable group | 0:57:27 | 0:57:31 | |
of young people, who,
at the end of the day, | 0:57:31 | 0:57:33 | |
just want somewhere to live,
and they just want a home, | 0:57:33 | 0:57:35 | |
but we will appeal. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:37 | |
CHEERING | 0:57:37 | 0:57:40 | |
But we realise
there's going to be an appeal, | 0:57:40 | 0:57:42 | |
so we look forward to the time when
the Chine come and have a talk to us. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:46 | |
Yes, absolutely. Yep. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:47 | |
Next time, residents see red over
a proposed new housing development. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:59 | |
That is our history, | 0:57:59 | 0:58:01 | |
and that's what they want
to put all this housing on. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:04 | |
Urgh, developer! | 0:58:04 | 0:58:06 | |
Locals don't want to see a new
business venture get off the ground. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:10 | |
Hovercrafting?
It's a noise pollution. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:13 | |
It's not an accepted thing
in a quiet, little town. | 0:58:13 | 0:58:16 | |
And a constituent
loses faith in democracy. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:20 | |
I don't know about the law being an
ass, I think the council's an ass. | 0:58:20 | 0:58:23 |