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'South Africa, the continent's biggest success story

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'and one of the most stunning countries in the world.'

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Just being a tourist, don't judge me.

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I'm way too cool for things like that.

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'But this country has a very dark past.

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'As a black man, I wouldn't have even been allowed to set foot

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'on this very beach just 20 years ago.'

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This programme contains some strong language

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'For over a century, a white supremacist government

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'controlled the nation and brutally oppressed black people.'

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They've got no education, they've only just come down from the trees.

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'This system of racial separation was called apartheid, and was

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'only abolished in 1994 when Nelson Mandela and the ANC came to power.'

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Today marks the dawn of our freedom.

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There has been such extreme levels of segregation here,

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and knowing that that ended only two decades ago, I'm desperate

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to see how that has changed the lives of people just like me.

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If at all.

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'Poverty is rife here,

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'and today people talk of a new underclass emerging.

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'It's not black people...' That's the way to do it.

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'..but white.'

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I can't imagine anything worse than waking up in there.

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We are going to take that belongs to us!

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'With years of hatred to overcome...'

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'..and both sides still playing the race card...'

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Most white people learned black people the things they know today.

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'I want to find out what life is like

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'for the young white South Africans...'

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Some of them are really racist.

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'..who think they are now bottom of the pile...'

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It's not a place to live here, not for the children.

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If you are black, you're better off.

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If I was a white guy, that would piss me off!

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'..and discover whether the nation will ever move on

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'from its tortured past.'

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Stupid man! We will never agree! Never!

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That's why the world is BLEEP up!

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'Johannesburg, South Africa's biggest city.

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'20 years on from apartheid, some people claim that this country

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'is still governed by racist policies.

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'Only this time, they say it's white people, not black people,

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'being oppressed.'

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What the white experience of Africa is, for me,

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is really, really intriguing.

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Some people believe, since the ANC came into power,

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there's been a flip because all of the opportunities have been afforded

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to the black people, and the white people are now second class citizens

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and are being neglected.

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But that can't be the case, surely.

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'On the edge of the city lies a notorious camp called

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'Coronation Park, a place where some of the

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'hardest hit white South Africans have made their home.'

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Coronation Park fills me with a little bit of apprehension,

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and that apprehension is based on the way that they may take me,

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the way they may receive me, and the way they may judge me

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straight away because I'm a privileged young black man.

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It's made me a little bit more nervous thinking about it.

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'During apartheid, Coronation Park was a picnic place for white

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'middle class families, but it's become something very different...'

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This is it.

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'..a permanent home for a white underclass.'

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DOG BARKS

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It's a camp in the middle of a park.

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They're living in a rough trailer park.

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In the UK you sort of get used to seeing images of young black kids

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in poverty and I've never seen those same images but with white children.

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I'm really thrown by that, it's...

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'Outsiders aren't generally welcome.

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'All new arrivals need permission to be here from the camp leader Irene,

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'who's lived here for eight years.

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'She's agreed to let me stay.'

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To see white people in South Africa barefoot,

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-in a settlement in a park, that's blowing my mind.

-Yeah.

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Because that is not what we see, you know, across the pond.

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I mean, we don't see that in Europe. What's the common thread?

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What normally brings people here?

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I don't know, I think because they've lost everything.

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There's no jobs for the white people.

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That, understand, means I'm not racist, or...

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There's no jobs for our white people.

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You're one pay cheque away from this place,

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cos something can happen to you and you will end up here.

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DOG BARKS

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The settlement sort of stretches all the way down.

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Can we have a little look? D'you mind taking me around?

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Yeah, sure, I will take you around and you can take...

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Coronation Park, it's like a white squat again.

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It's like, you can stay here and we will look after you.

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Do they build their own shacks? Do they have to pay to be here?

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-No, they don't pay to be here.

-That's literally a shed.

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-Does someone live in this?

-In the back of it, yeah.

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Wow. How many people are there in Coronation Park?

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Er, 287.

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-Hello!

-Hello.

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We are running on generators, we haven't got power yet.

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'With no proper sanitation

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'and dozens of stray animals roaming around, health is a real concern.

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'The government has repeatedly tried to shut the camp down,

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'and people are forced to do whatever they can to survive.'

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So, I found out that these donkeys, which are boilers,

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they fill it with water, they heat it underneath it or whatever,

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and then it feeds hot water into the...

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..into the house.

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Which is kind of genius, really.

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'The camp is expanding as new people arrive all the time.'

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-How you doing, I'm Reggie. What's your name?

-JD.

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'27-year-old artist JD turned up last month with his mum,

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'two kids and pregnant wife.'

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That's absolutely beautiful.

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That's what I do, I travel the whole country painting

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-and drawing all over the place.

-So where have you come from?

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Originally from Cape Town.

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How have you ended up here in Coronation Park?

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I've been hit by life, you know?

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Hit to my knees.

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You know, it's difficult for white folks these days, it really is.

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We don't have the ball in our court anymore, and we are not

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the chosen ones, if you want to put it that way, and it's the truth.

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'Most white South Africans are descended from Dutch settlers

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'and called Afrikaans.'

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'During apartheid, they saw themselves as a superior race...'

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We cannot mix with the lower nations unless

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they are cultivated and educated and so on.

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'..given the best houses, jobs and education,

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'creating a super-wealthy white elite.'

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The policy of white supremacy ultimately means

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the denial of all civil and human rights

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to the Africans in the white areas.

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'In 1990, everything changed.

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'The leader of the black resistance, Nelson Mandela,

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'was released from prison.'

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I cherish the ideal of a new South Africa

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where all South Africans are equal.

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'By '94, the ANC won the first free elections

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'the country had ever seen.'

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The people of South Africa have spoken in this election.

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They want change,

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and change is what they will get.

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'And white Afrikaners lost their privileged position.'

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'While over 50% of privately held assets here

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'are still owned by the white minority...

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'..Afrikaner charities believe a new underclass has formed.

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'Estimates vary wildly,

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'but these charities claim up to 400,000 white people

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'may have fallen below the poverty line,

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'with many living in settlements just like this one.'

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-Where shall I put my tent? Where's a good place to pitch up?

-There.

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What d'you mean "there?!" I'm not going to put it on that ash!

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-Will you guys help me put up my tent?

-Yeah.

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Come on, then, what are we doing? There we go.

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All right, let's peg this up. I've only stayed in a tent once before.

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And, erm, while I was making it

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I wasn't getting whipped in the arse by some kid called Winston!

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-When d'you do this?

-Look, look, look! Hey!

-Jesus Christ!

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'Nearly a third of all the people living here are under 16.

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'I'm not sure how the future looks for teenagers like Winston.'

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D'you think you'll always live here?

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Do you want to move out of here?

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Why?

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Really? So, if you do move out of here

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and people ask you where you grew up,

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when you're older, when you're my age,

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are you going to say Coronation Park?

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Are you going to look after me

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and give me some sandwiches and tea before bed?

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Can I help out?

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'After dark, more young people flood into the camp.

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'As well as child benefits, many residents survive on handouts,

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'including hot drinks and sandwiches given out three nights a week.'

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You ask them how much coffee they want.

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Coffee or tea?

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How you been, man? You had a good day? What you been doing?

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Drinking today?

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Hey, evening!

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I didn't think about what the rain would do here.

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'Unemployment here is very high.

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'One person who does have a steady job is Irene's son, Harry.

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'He works as a welder.'

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-Hey, Harry!

-Hey, how are you?

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I'm good, thank you, man. I've not met you before, I'm Reggie, hello.

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-I'm Ursula.

-Hello, lovely to meet you.

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-Is that your wedding pictures I can see?

-Yeah.

-Scrub up well, don't he?

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-Yeah.

-He looks good in a suit. Flowers from the wedding day?

-Yeah.

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-You've still got them.

-I don't want to throw them away!

-Yeah, right!

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How did you and your husband meet? What was his chat-up line?

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-I can't remember!

-Yes, you can! Come on, you know what he said.

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-What did he say to you?

-He wanted to come drink coffee.

-It was coffee?

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-Yeah.

-Smooth operator.

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'Despite Harry working, his wage isn't enough to cover

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'rent for a proper house for his wife and three kids.'

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Just how difficult is it to raise a small child in a place like this?

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It is difficult because the generator is on,

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but when you sleep at night and he wakes up, the generator isn't on,

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then you must struggle to get light and whatsoever.

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And there isn't always hot water

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because you must make fire to get hot water.

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So, yeah, that's a problem.

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Do you worry about, erm, how healthy a situation it is for him,

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because I imagine it's probably quite easy for him to get ill?

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This place is dirty, you know.

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-We've got the sewerage drain, er, right behind the wall here.

-Mm.

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When it's full, it comes out and that, that smell stays here,

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-it makes us sick...

-Yeah.

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..quickly, especially with the small one and Xander,

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they get sick fast, you know?

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It's not a place to live here, not for the children.

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Can't live here anymore.

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I tried my best from the start.

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I was working since I was 16, you know?

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Erm, and from then, I just tried, you know,

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build up my education and try to be what I am.

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You look quite emotional.

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Oh, yes, when it come to my kids and my wife, yeah.

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What is it about your family that makes you so emotional?

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Er, I think it's because, er, I know I try hard, you know?

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Er, maybe I don't try hard enough.

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I don't know, but to see them suffer like this, it, it makes me...

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Do you think your children are suffering?

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Erm, well, they don't have the life, what I want for them,

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you know, and I think that, for them, is suffering, you know?

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The harsh reality of being at the bottom of the ladder out here

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is that that can happen to you.

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This is it for them.

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It'll kind of keep you awake, won't it?

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REGGIE SIGHS

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-Wake up!

-Wake up!

-Oh, God!

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-Wake up.

-Wake up.

-What's wrong with you lot?

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Come out!

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-And do what?

-We'll play cricket.

-Play cricket?!

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You don't need your fingers!

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Ah, come on, bro!

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That's the way to do it.

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You're going to go home smelling like smoke...

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I can live with that so long as I'm warm.

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What was your first night like here?

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Terrible, cos it felt like there's

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a bunch of serial killers standing around.

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I'm really glad I asked you this question after my first night.

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'Sleeping here as a grown man is one thing, but in a few months,

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'JD will have a newborn baby to share his tent with.'

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How does it feel knowing that your newborn will be brought here?

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Talking to Irene and them, they all know about the baby coming.

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And I know, in my heart, it will be OK, cos they're going to help us.

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They will help us.

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I've heard about it recently, I've read in the papers that the

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people around here might qualify for government housing.

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-But...

-Why wouldn't you, though? If ever there was anybody

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that needed help, particularly with a baby on the way,

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I'd have thought that you'd be...

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-You'd be perfect for it.

-To me, government housing is a dream.

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I don't quite, erm...I don't...

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I don't see myself qualifying for a government house.

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'Over two million people are waiting for social housing in South Africa,

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'so it's no surprise that JD doubts his chances of getting one.

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'The wider situation is even more complicated,

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'as race still plays a part in some opportunities here.

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'I've come to the centre of Joburg to meet an old mate of mine,

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'celebrity DJ Sizwe, to get a different perspective.

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'What's happening now for young black South Africans?'

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-Oh, Reg, what's up?

-How you doing?

-It's been years!

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I'm well, thanks, how's it going with you?

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I'm really good, man,

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I'm glad to be in your neck of the woods, as it were.

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-OK, let's go to where you know.

-Take you where the girls are.

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You're desperately trying to get me in trouble with my girlfriend.

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It's a good start, you know?

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'Sizwe is what's known here as a "black diamond",

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'a young black guy with a very healthy bank balance.'

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-Would people refer to you as a "black diamond"?

-I guess some people would.

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I'm a diamond in the rough.

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I need some polishing!

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'But people like Sizwe are relatively rare.

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'Most of the wealth here is still in the hands of the old white masters,

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'and they live in lavish gated communities.'

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-Is this one property?

-Yeah. The houses, they're just obscene.

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There's a huge gap in SA between those that have and those that don't.

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Is that why the walls are so high and security's...?

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That's why the walls are so high.

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-Look, this is barbed wire, there's gates...

-Yeah, electronic fences.

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'To try to re-balance wealth and opportunity, the government

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'has brought in a policy called affirmative action, AA for short.'

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'It's already transformed areas like the courtroom,

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'where over 60% of the most senior judges are now black.'

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'And the dream is to repeat that across all walks of life.'

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In SA, if you are black, you're better off.

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-Right now.

-Well, why's that? Because it wasn't the case 20 years ago.

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Just cos of everything, man, like,

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the odds are stacked in your favour now.

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Affirmative action...

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If I applied for a job, right,

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and a guy my age, same education as me,

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applied for the same position, er, but he was white,

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I'd get the job, hands down.

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I mean, if I was a white guy, that would piss me off!

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But you've got to look at it this way, right?

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I always use a sports analogy.

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If there's been a soccer game going on,

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but for the first 45 minutes they've just been cheating,

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and then you get to half-time and the score's like, 45-0, right?

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And then in half-time, they go,

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"OK, wait, wait, we realise we've been cheating,

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"we're going to get a fair ref now."

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-But they keep the score at 45-0, it's still an unfair game, right?

-Right.

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So what you need to do is maybe, er,

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nullify the score or give the other team 45 as well.

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But does that make it OK?

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It doesn't make it OK, but it makes it understandable.

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There's Joe's. Let's eat.

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Thank you, brother, you all right?

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Talking to Sizwe in the car,

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you know, one of the things that kept coming up

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was the swing of power,

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and the white people feeling marginalised

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and feeling that they don't get the opportunities anymore.

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Reverse racism, I guess.

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It's a very different time now, and if you're black you will get

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opportunities in a way that you never used to.

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'I've grown up thinking equality is about treating everyone the same.

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'But here, things are different. Without extra help,

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'Sizwe and his friends might have been left behind for years to come.'

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'In Coronation Park,

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'handouts from charity have become part of everyday life.

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'The parents have pulled together to run a nursery.

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Most of the toys and equipment are donations.'

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Hello, guys. What are you doing? What's all this about?

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Well, we're representatives from our group on campus

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at the University of Pretoria, called AfriForum Youth.

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Bringing some food, some toys...

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-Toothpaste.

-And lots of toothpaste.

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It's a bunch of the stuff that people take for granted,

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but these people, they don't have it,

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they don't have the opportunities, they don't have the money to buy it.

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Yeah. Thank you.

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Hello!

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'AfriForum is a right wing political pressure group

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'fighting for white rights.'

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Why d'you think there's more and more people

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struggling in South Africa? White people specifically.

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Er, the government has started implementing some policies to,

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what they call, adjust the wrongs done in the past.

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And they see as the past, er, black people were poor

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and white people were rich,

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so now they're helping only the black people instead of the white people.

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All of two minutes and everything has pretty much gone.

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It shows you these people can't even afford

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the most basic stuff, that we take for granted.

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So you believe the white people are essentially discriminated against?

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For me, personally, I would say so, yes.

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Would you put it down to something as simple as reverse racism?

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It is, it is. It is just reverse from what happened in the past.

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It's definitely a struggle for young white people in South Africa,

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but in terms of the history for black people in South Africa...

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-Yes, yes, mm...

-..it's just not that easy to move on.

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We're not talking about the past. We're talking about today.

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I mean, this is real.

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This is seriously real, this is what's happening now.

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And we need to address that.

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It's no longer about black and white in this country.

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There's poor people from each racial group, there's a lot of them.

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We've passed that.

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'If I was white, I'd want to move on from my dark history too,

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'but white South Africans weren't the ones being brutally oppressed.'

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'Until the '90s, on these very streets, the ruling whites,

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'or Boers, treated black people as little better than animals.'

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I don't like apartheid because in apartheid Europeans go up

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and Africans go down.

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'They were forcibly removed from their homes to live together

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'in massive ring-fenced compounds, which later grew into townships.'

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-I don't like it.

-Why do you live there, then?

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Because they said we have to.

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'Made to work the most menial jobs, denied a vote, basic rights,

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'or even the opportunity to walk the streets freely.'

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All movements of the black man are controlled, the white man need

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not carry his card, but if the black man does not, he is arrested.

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'Everything was ruthlessly enforced by the white regime.'

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'I want to find out what it was like

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'living under white rule on these streets.'

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'So I've come to meet 28-year-old Colin.

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'He grew up in Alexandria, a township still full of black people,

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'many living in poverty.'

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As a kid, you were actually, I guess, old enough at seven or eight

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-to remember...

-Between that age, yes.

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Yeah, to remember some of the things that happened during apartheid.

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What sticks out in your mind during that era?

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I remember when we called them the "mellow yellow vans",

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it was the police state vans.

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Immediately, you'd see that yellow van,

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you knew you had to run to save your life

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because you never knew what would be predicted

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from the police or the state police.

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Cos at times they would just literally stop to beat you up

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or not want you to congregate in the streets in groups.

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And even today, you know, police are not the most likeable

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people in the townships, for that matter.

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People see the police van, they see their enemy.

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In the mind of somebody like myself from the UK, when we think

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of segregation, the first thing that comes to mind is the US in the '60s

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and the struggles of black people in America.

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-But this was going on in the '90s!

-In the '90s, yes, I mean...

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It's so hard to get your head around, that's unbelievable.

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I mean, the last time it happened, it is 1994, which sounds like yesterday.

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'Black people who broke the apartheid laws were sent to

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'prisons like this one, called the Old Fort.

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'Nelson Mandela was incarcerated here whilst awaiting trial.'

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The only time you'd find white wardens in this section, it is

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when they came to render humiliation towards the black prisoners.

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They would perform a strip search dance called the "tausa dance".

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Strip search dance? What was the dance?

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The dance stipulated you strip naked, you spread your legs,

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you spread your arms, clap the hands above the head,

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leap in the air making a clicking sound, stretch your legs,

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and if no objects had fallen down,

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then the authorities would go to the extent of inserting a finger

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or a torch inside their rectums to see if there's nothing hidden.

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-A torch?

-A torch.

-Men and women?

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Men and women, yes.

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Wow.

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'The most severe punishments were reserved for those who fought

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'to change the system.

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'These freedom fighters were kept in solitary confinement

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'as a warning to others.'

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Political leaders were sent here.

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It was the most severe form of punishment.

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Lying down flat on the ground, you feel like lying down in a grave.

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So there weren't beds in here, there weren't desks, there weren't chairs?

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There were no beds, no chairs.

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They were locked up here for 23 hours

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and only released for an hour of the day.

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I guess this was where prisoners were chained to.

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'It's amazing to think South Africa has gone from official government

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'brutality towards black people to affirmative action,

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'from just my parents' generation to mine.

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There's been so much injustice here that the anger is still so fresh,

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and just putting my mum's face

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to this environment makes me angry,

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and that's just imagining it.

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Not living it.

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On face value,

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it's bang out of order that white people aren't being given

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the same opportunities as black people,

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but when you think about how long it's been weighed in the favour

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of the minority, you can understand why it's been put in place.

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I'm not saying that I agree with it, but what I'm saying is,

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I get why so many people are still angry

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and why they think that it is imperative that it's in place.

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'Although black and white South Africans now enjoy

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'all the same freedoms, Statistics South Africa claims that

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'nearly 16 million black people still live in poverty here.

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'On that level, extra help for them makes sense.'

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I'm holding the bat the right way, it's a good start.

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'But I'm not sure where that leaves the squatters in Coronation Park.

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'I can't help wondering what people like Irene make of it,

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'after being part of the privileged minority for years.'

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Do you think that it's fair? Do you think it's right?

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-I think, yeah. You know what?

-You think it's fair?

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You know what? That's what I said, and I said it today,

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if our fathers and our fathers and fathers

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and fathers treated black people like normal people,

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and didn't, erm, let them work like slaves

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and treat them like dogs, maybe it would be different today.

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That's the way, it's life.

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Cos it's time now for us to pay for what our fathers did.

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And there's nothing you can do about that.

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'Irene strikes me as being resigned to her fate.

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But her son Harry is desperate to get his family out of here.'

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Your mum said that she thinks it's almost a little bit

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like a balance now, it's almost more fair for the black people.

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Do you agree with that or disagree?

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I think that's bullshit.

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20 years ago, I still had fuck all, so now I've got nothing, now they,

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they think it's balanced out.

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What happened years ago with the black people

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and the white people was nothing to do with me.

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I wasn't there, I didn't fight the battles

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with the white people and the black people.

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So you're saying your generation have done nothing to deserve this?

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-Is that how you feel?

-Yeah, that's how I feel.

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Most white people learned black people the things they know today,

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especially in my company.

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And at the end, they walk out, get a better job with my knowledge,

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and we sit in the shadow where we are today.

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They feel marginalised, they feel that they're still suffering from...

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the people that, that caused the apartheid, you know?

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The time when it was like the Boer,

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when they called themselves Boer, had the country in their hands,

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there was more food in our country, more job opportunities...

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That was also the apartheid, though, right? When the Boer were in charge.

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Yeah, but they still, still the black people had jobs,

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-and they were still...

-They had no rights, though.

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Yeah, they didn't have rights, but even the white people,

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what rights do we have?

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-But then, at that time, it wasn't anything like now.

-Yeah, it wasn't.

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I can't say because I wasn't there.

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It feels the same way, the way that they have, er, er,

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had by the time that we're apartheid or whatsoever.

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OK, well, we'll agree to disagree on that one,

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cos I think that it's a very different situation.

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But how? It's a black government, it's a black country.

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They don't want white people here, that's what I think.

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'Some of the stuff that he said made my blood boil.

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'I don't agree with his views,

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'but he wants a better life for his son

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'and he feels that the way things are,

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'that's just not going to happen.'

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Being in this, and this being your world in its entirety,

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I understand why you might feel that way.

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'It may sit uncomfortably, but at least part of the reason

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'Harry is stuck here could be because of affirmative action.

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'And if it continues, I worry that Coronation Park could keep growing,

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'creating more race resentment for young people in South Africa.'

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Mad how different this place is in the dark, isn't it?

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I just think it's a bit more intimidating.

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Cos you just don't know...

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where you are, what's around...

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and, erm, what you're walking into, you know.

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Definitely is a different vibe here.

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-Hey, guys.

-Hi-aye!

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What are you attending to?

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For the true camp experience you have to sit on the stump.

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There's a very dangerous spider around.

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If he calls, you call it a suck spinacle. That thing can kill you.

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Why are you saying that before I sit down on the stump?

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I don't want a suck spinacle getting in my bum!

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With the way things are set up here,

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there are so many hurdles for you to get back to where you were.

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There are things in the way that aren't your fault.

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And that just makes me angry.

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I can't really say it's not my fault.

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I ended up here for a reason.

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Nobody comes in here just because the country's screwed up.

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Nobody comes in here like that.

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They come in here because THEY screwed up.

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You can't blame everything on the system.

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That's the first time I've heard ownership since I've been here.

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LAUGHING: Ownership.

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It's the first time I've heard ownership.

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Even a rich guy can find himself here...

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in two weeks.

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Ask me.

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I've lost everything.

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I lived the dream.

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I was a rock star.

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In my head, I still am.

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I used to sign...

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..boobs for a living, you know?

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And I had a selfish life, but I lived the dream. I did.

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And everything, it went wrong.

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I had it and I lost it in a couple of days.

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'Just a few years ago, JD was living in his own house with a pool,

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'but since his music career ended,

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'he struggled to find his feet in modern South Africa,

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'and has been moving with his mum from place to place.

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'This camp is full of people who've left their homes

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'but don't know where they'll end up.

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'Coronation Park isn't the only place

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'that poor whites are squatting.

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'Local newspapers report there are now over 80 camps

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'dotted around Pretoria.

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'This was once the spiritual homeland of the Afrikaner Nation,

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'but, in modern South Africa, the idea of a nation

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'where white people are in charge clearly has no future.'

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It's not like a block of flats in its most traditional sense.

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But it definitely looks run down.

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There seems to be both black and white here as well.

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'This settlement is an abandoned care home.

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'As well as the poor Afrikaners,

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'it's home to lots of recent black immigrants

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'from all over the continent.'

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'Black or white, this place really does feel like the end of the line.'

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Hello?

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-Hi.

-Hi. Can I come in and talk to you guys? Is that OK?

-Sure.

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-How's it going, man? I'm Reggie.

-How's it? I'm Hardus.

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-Hello, nice to meet you.

-Nice to meet you.

0:32:560:32:57

-Hello. Can we come in?

-Yeah, come in.

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-Is that all right? Hello.

-Hi.

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-I'm Reggie.

-Vivienne.

-Nice to meet you, Vivienne.

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Is this your little one?

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-Is that your youngster?

-Yeah.

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This is my first one, this is my second one.

0:33:070:33:10

Wow. Congratulations.

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-So is this your family in here, yeah?

-Yeah.

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-How old are you guys?

-I'm 20 and he's 25.

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How long have you guys lived here?

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We've lived here for basically four years now.

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Who else lives in here, cos there's doors all

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the way down the corridor, and they're all sealed?

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It's only whites. There's no black in these rooms.

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There's three or four other buildings here.

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-Do the blacks keep to themselves?

-Most of the time.

-Yeah.

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Why do you think that is?

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Some of them are very racist.

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And inside here, they're also very racist.

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-Yeah.

-Most of the people, if they do know you, and they do have

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respect for you, they actually just intentionally leave you alone.

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You leave them alone and they leave you alone.

0:33:490:33:51

The only other place where I've heard someone

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speak like that is prison.

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That's the only other place where I've heard people speak

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about looking after yourself. Is that how you see it?

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That's how it works here.

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I'd love to see the rest of this building.

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-Is it possible for you to show me around? Can I see some more?

-Yep.

0:34:040:34:07

-It's a bit dark down here.

-Yeah, no kidding.

0:34:070:34:09

My grandmother's staying here. Vivienne's grandmother, actually.

0:34:090:34:12

-Wow, so it's the whole family...

-Yeah, well, it's the...

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Your little one's just here.

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It's the grandmother and Vivienne's mother that actually got us here.

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What's this through here? Is this shared?

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Everything's shared, but unfortunately,

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not everything works either.

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The toilets, they're permanently blocked.

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These tubs, they don't work at all.

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They've got water, but only cold water.

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Showers.

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Look at that.

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Needles, drugs.

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So, that's everywhere now?

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Yeah, too many drug dealers moved in, too many junkies moved in.

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We all know that it's not safe for the kids.

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'Crime is rife here. But that's not the only danger.'

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These buildings are so old.

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If these roofs catch fire, it's over, it's done.

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'Two months ago, a resident built a fire in their room to keep warm.

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'Unfortunately, it got out of control

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'and tore through an entire building.'

0:35:040:35:06

This is awful. Do people actually live in here, still?

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People still actually live here.

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There's at least a roof over their heads.

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I can't imagine anything worse than waking up in there.

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I think in, what, 20 minutes, it was the whole wing.

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This is the hardest I think I've seen it in South Africa.

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What's the future look like for your little girl, then?

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In South Africa, I wouldn't say too good.

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'Neither Hardus nor Vivienne have a legitimate job.

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'To get by, they run an unlicensed shop out of their window.'

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It's difficult for us to get work in South Africa, especially me.

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When I just moved into Pretoria in 2010,

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I had 60 CVs that I actually gave out, resumes that I gave out

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to places, and it's difficult to find work in South Africa.

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Not even one says, "I'm going to call you back."

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-Nothing.

-Why do you think it's so hard?

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Working places are racist as well.

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Not racist. You need more black employment than whites.

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It's how they work. If your skin colour is not correct,

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unfortunately, you're not going to get it.

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'With no job, the family lives hand to mouth,

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'so tonight's dinner depends on the little money the shop makes...

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'..which, today, was nothing.'

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Unfortunately, there's no money to buy anything tonight, but I've still

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got some macaroni left and soup, so that's what we'll be eating tonight.

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Macaroni and soup. That's what you have here, yeah?

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That's what I have here for now.

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I don't want to seem judgemental or anything,

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but it almost feels like this isn't...

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This isn't a life.

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'Like anyone, I find it hard to witness poverty,

0:36:580:37:02

'but here in South Africa, it is very common.

0:37:020:37:06

'Their Institute Of Race Relations claims a staggering 45%

0:37:060:37:09

'of black South African's also live below the breadline.

0:37:090:37:13

'But that doesn't make the plight of poor whites any easier to stomach.'

0:37:130:37:17

I can hear some music playing. Who's playing that music?

0:37:190:37:22

-All the rich people.

-What?

0:37:220:37:24

Do the rich guys come round here, park up their cars,

0:37:240:37:28

-play music and hang out?

-Yeah.

0:37:280:37:31

When I was like these people, I was exactly the same way.

0:37:310:37:36

Can you believe it's two different worlds?

0:37:360:37:39

Can you believe it?

0:37:390:37:42

-Can I be completely honest with you?

-Yes.

0:37:420:37:45

When you spoke about rich people, in my head, I had white people.

0:37:450:37:49

-Yeah, not at all, eh?

-They're all black guys.

0:37:510:37:53

They're all black guys.

0:37:530:37:55

Look, most of them are young people.

0:37:550:37:59

So...they're getting what they deserve now.

0:38:010:38:04

Fairness.

0:38:040:38:06

-Is this fair?

-Their mums and dads wasn't treated this way.

0:38:060:38:11

They wouldn't have been allowed to come here,

0:38:110:38:14

so them enjoying their freedom, there's nothing wrong with that.

0:38:140:38:19

You should go and ask THEM what they think about Coronation Park,

0:38:190:38:22

-and you'll get your answer.

-I'm going to do that now.

0:38:220:38:25

LOUD URBAN MUSIC PLAYS

0:38:250:38:28

Hello, guys, how you doing?

0:38:310:38:33

Brother, hello. Where have you guys come from tonight?

0:38:330:38:36

-Soweto?

-Yes.

0:38:360:38:38

-So you guys are from the township?

-Yes.

-Nice.

0:38:380:38:40

-And you come out here to enjoy yourselves for the night.

-Yes.

0:38:400:38:42

'South Africa has come a long way.

0:38:430:38:46

'Some middle class black people live in Soweto now,

0:38:460:38:49

'with cars, jobs and money.

0:38:490:38:52

'And whilst it's strange to think this party

0:38:520:38:54

'wouldn't have even been allowed 20 years ago,

0:38:540:38:57

'it's even stranger that it IS happening

0:38:570:38:59

'right next to the tents and shacks

0:38:590:39:01

'of hundreds of impoverished Afrikaners.'

0:39:010:39:04

There's a group of people living just over there.

0:39:050:39:07

Permanently staying, living there or what?

0:39:070:39:10

You didn't know that they were there?

0:39:100:39:12

No, I didn't know anything, because this is a park.

0:39:120:39:15

-I'm living in that camp tonight.

-You won't get white people here.

0:39:150:39:19

-Understand?

-You won't get white people living in the park?

0:39:190:39:21

-You won't.

-Well, I'm staying there tonight and there's a lot.

0:39:210:39:26

-OK.

-There's over 100.

-White people aren't living there.

0:39:260:39:31

-They are three days, then they are going home.

-No, eight years.

0:39:310:39:34

No, you're lying.

0:39:340:39:36

You don't believe there could be that many white people

0:39:360:39:39

-living that way over there? Why not?

-I don't believe.

0:39:390:39:41

-Why not?

-I'm telling you straight. You're lying.

-No.

0:39:410:39:44

I came over this hill expecting, sort of, arrogant, rich white kids.

0:39:440:39:50

It was quite the opposite.

0:39:500:39:52

'White families still earn six times more than black ones on average,

0:39:530:39:57

'so I can understand the stereotypes. I hold them too.

0:39:570:40:00

But if black people can't even accept white poverty,

0:40:010:40:04

I can't see a way out for JD and Hardus.

0:40:040:40:08

Johannesburg isn't totally divided.

0:40:140:40:17

Throughout the city, there are pockets of integration,

0:40:170:40:20

like here at Neighbourgoods Market,

0:40:200:40:22

where being black or white simply isn't an issue.

0:40:220:40:26

Are you guys actually a couple?

0:40:260:40:28

Yeah, we are. Getting married in a couple of weeks.

0:40:280:40:30

Congratulations! Wow.

0:40:300:40:31

I want to be honest with you.

0:40:310:40:33

This is the last thing I expected to see here,

0:40:330:40:35

because of my experience of what South Africa is.

0:40:350:40:37

Couples like us are few and far between.

0:40:370:40:39

There's some challenges that come with it in South Africa.

0:40:390:40:41

There's a lot of people who look at you

0:40:410:40:44

and think "Why are you with this person?"

0:40:440:40:46

There are cultural challenges involved.

0:40:460:40:48

I'm hopeful that things are going to change.

0:40:480:40:51

You know, just look around here.

0:40:510:40:52

The only way you can evolve is by having people mix,

0:40:520:40:57

by having people be together.

0:40:570:40:59

The worst part of apartheid was physically separating people,

0:40:590:41:02

because people live in different areas.

0:41:020:41:04

So we're lucky, because we live in an affluent area,

0:41:040:41:07

so we are exposed to different cultures,

0:41:070:41:09

and people have embraced it.

0:41:090:41:11

I mean, are you aware of a place called Coronation Park?

0:41:110:41:13

-Have you heard of this place?

-Yeah.

-They feel marginalised.

0:41:130:41:17

They feel that as the working class,

0:41:170:41:19

they are a direct result of AA,

0:41:190:41:23

as it gets in the way of them

0:41:230:41:24

finding the work that they believe they deserve.

0:41:240:41:26

You know, some white people struggling right now

0:41:260:41:28

is a normal part of any country.

0:41:280:41:30

If you go to Europe,

0:41:300:41:31

countries have as many white people as black people that are unemployed.

0:41:310:41:36

Maybe not exactly, but everybody faces the same economic conditions.

0:41:360:41:40

I think that's a fair state to be in as a country.

0:41:400:41:43

'Meeting these two has been refreshing,

0:41:430:41:47

'as their outlook for South Africa is positive.

0:41:470:41:50

'Hopefully, it'll become the norm.

0:41:500:41:52

'I'm on my way back to see Hardus.

0:41:550:41:57

'I'm surprised to hear he's been given a last-minute job interview.

0:41:570:42:01

'It could be good news, but I'm finding it hard to be positive.'

0:42:010:42:05

I see these kids walking around barefoot

0:42:050:42:08

and I see used needles in the gutter and drug dealers hanging out,

0:42:080:42:12

seconds from his open doorway.

0:42:120:42:14

It just really gets you down. It just makes you think "Jesus".

0:42:140:42:18

That's interesting. There are police.

0:42:250:42:27

Ah, lots of police. I'm going to find out what's going on.

0:42:290:42:32

-Excuse me, officer.

-It's inside that building.

0:42:410:42:43

Did something happen in that building?

0:42:430:42:45

I don't know if something's happened,

0:42:450:42:47

-but all the people are inside there.

-OK. Thank you.

0:42:470:42:51

Something's going on.

0:42:510:42:54

-Hey, Hardus.

-What's up?

0:42:590:43:01

-You all right?

-Yeah.

-What's happening?

0:43:010:43:04

-They're busy doing a raid.

-For drug dealers?

-Drugs, cigarettes.

0:43:040:43:07

If you've got a shop,

0:43:070:43:08

if they find any cigarettes on you, they're going to confiscate it.

0:43:080:43:12

What about you guys?

0:43:120:43:13

Well, luckily, I'm a smoker, so I'm just going to say I smoke.

0:43:130:43:17

Vivian, I noticed that your shop sign's come down.

0:43:180:43:21

If they'd seen the sign, what would have happened?

0:43:210:43:23

They would search the room.

0:43:230:43:25

If they find anything, they would open it up,

0:43:250:43:27

or they would give me a fine.

0:43:270:43:29

'Vivian and Hardus have been lucky. But escaping arrest

0:43:290:43:32

'isn't how I would choose to prepare for a job interview.'

0:43:320:43:36

-It's going to look like the rainbow nation today.

-Why?

-Blue shoes...

0:43:360:43:40

Crazy colours. Do you not have any blacks and whites? There we go.

0:43:400:43:45

That'll work.

0:43:450:43:46

No matter where you are in the world,

0:43:460:43:50

there's wives still dressing their husbands.

0:43:500:43:53

Bye-bye, Sienna!

0:43:530:43:54

'Hardus is interviewing for a door-to-door sales job'.

0:43:540:43:59

Looking sharp. Look at you!

0:43:590:44:01

Let's go and do this.

0:44:010:44:02

'It's a massive opportunity that doesn't come around very often.'

0:44:020:44:06

I applied for this job two years ago.

0:44:060:44:08

-Wow.

-Two years ago, and they finally invited me.

0:44:080:44:12

This is a good 30-minute drive from your place.

0:44:120:44:15

-How are you going to get here, should you get the job?

-Walk.

0:44:150:44:18

It's going to be a long walk, isn't it?

0:44:180:44:22

-I get those nerves.

-You'll be fine. You'll be fine.

0:44:220:44:27

So what's the situation with AA?

0:44:280:44:32

I'm hoping that there's no such thing in this opportunity.

0:44:320:44:35

Even if there is, I'm still hoping

0:44:350:44:38

that I convince them to give me a chance.

0:44:380:44:41

This is the first time I've seen him

0:44:410:44:43

appear unsure about something, you know?

0:44:430:44:46

In any scenario, you'd sort of understand,

0:44:460:44:48

but in this one, there's so much more on your shoulders.

0:44:480:44:52

It's not just someone trying to get a job

0:44:520:44:54

to earn some money to pay for their satellite subscription.

0:44:540:44:57

I really hope Hardus can get his dream job,

0:44:570:45:01

but competition is tough.

0:45:010:45:03

This is just the first of three interviews

0:45:030:45:05

he will have to face to stand a chance.

0:45:050:45:07

Even if he does succeed, his ultimate goal

0:45:090:45:11

is not just to leave his home,

0:45:110:45:13

but to take his family out of South Africa.

0:45:130:45:16

Like many Afrikaners I've spoken to, he's fearful for the future.

0:45:220:45:26

I've come to a rally for a popular movement called EFF

0:45:300:45:33

that's taken South Africa's poor black youth by storm.

0:45:330:45:36

The red berets think affirmative action hasn't gone far enough.

0:45:410:45:46

They're demanding more extreme measures

0:45:460:45:48

to help black people out of poverty,

0:45:480:45:50

like taking back farmland and nationalising lucrative mines.

0:45:500:45:56

We are going to take what belongs to us!

0:45:560:45:59

They've become controversial

0:45:590:46:01

for singing an apartheid rebellion song,

0:46:010:46:04

Shoot The Boer - Kill The Farmer.

0:46:040:46:06

Viva EFF!

0:46:060:46:09

From old women to little kids,

0:46:090:46:11

they're all screaming for the EFF.

0:46:110:46:13

'Just because there's now a black government,

0:46:150:46:17

'doesn't mean poor black Africans aren't still suffering or angry.'

0:46:170:46:22

It has been 20 years of so-called independence.

0:46:220:46:24

I might be free to sit next to a white person on the bus,

0:46:240:46:27

but I've got no income. I got no money.

0:46:270:46:29

I cannot buy anything for my children.

0:46:290:46:31

They just watch life going by.

0:46:310:46:33

Talking to people like Hardus,

0:46:330:46:35

you get an idea that he feels like

0:46:350:46:36

he's not part of what is happening in South Africa.

0:46:360:46:39

It's no different to the people here.

0:46:390:46:41

They feel just as marginalised,

0:46:410:46:43

just as not listened to and just as ignored.

0:46:430:46:46

People here want change, and there's a militancy in the air.

0:46:460:46:51

Look at that, look.

0:46:550:46:57

When their commander-in-chief, Julius Malema, turns up,

0:46:570:47:00

he gets a welcome that David Cameron could only dream of.

0:47:000:47:05

SINGING AND CHANTING

0:47:300:47:34

The whole time I've been here,

0:47:460:47:49

I've heard about this Kill The Boer song.

0:47:490:47:52

Clearly, Malema has become hip to that,

0:47:520:47:54

because it's something that's really sensitive

0:47:540:47:57

to the Boer Afrikaner population out here.

0:47:570:47:59

He's now changed the words of the song to Kiss The Boer.

0:47:590:48:02

The funny thing is, that's quickly followed

0:48:020:48:05

by people going "pow-pow".

0:48:050:48:07

Different words, pretty much the same meaning.

0:48:070:48:13

Shoot to kill!

0:48:130:48:15

I've never seen any politician in Britain...

0:48:170:48:19

when they sing, they sing traditional songs.

0:48:190:48:21

He sang the Kill The Boer song,

0:48:210:48:23

but he changed the words to Kiss The Boer.

0:48:230:48:26

-Do you think it's a fair song?

-Yeah, it's a fair song.

0:48:260:48:29

We are kissing the knowledge. We do not want to fight.

0:48:290:48:32

We want to fight spiritually, not physically.

0:48:320:48:35

We don't want to fight with guns and whatever,

0:48:350:48:37

we have to fight knowledgeably.

0:48:370:48:41

And we have to fight with knowledge.

0:48:410:48:44

'I don't want to believe

0:48:480:48:49

'that everyone here wants to take violent revenge on white people,

0:48:490:48:53

'but chanting a hate song isn't building any bridges.'

0:48:530:48:57

A few years ago, Julius Malema was tipped as a future president.

0:48:590:49:03

But he's not someone many people in Coronation Park would vote for.

0:49:040:49:08

Why do you think that so many black people in townships

0:49:100:49:14

are supporting of Malema?

0:49:140:49:16

Because they want to kill us. It's a shock, eh?

0:49:160:49:20

I definitely don't agree.

0:49:200:49:23

It says "Kill the Boer, kill the white one,

0:49:230:49:25

"kill the Boer, kill the white one." They're going to kill us.

0:49:250:49:29

As soon as he comes in, we're going to be killed.

0:49:290:49:31

Our fathers before our fathers treated black people very bad.

0:49:310:49:35

They did. And I think Julius Malema wants to just turn it around.

0:49:350:49:39

He wants to give us

0:49:390:49:40

the same medicine that our fathers, before our fathers, gave them.

0:49:400:49:44

That's what I think.

0:49:440:49:45

But it's wrong. It's wrong.

0:49:450:49:46

Why do you want to treat us like dirt

0:49:480:49:50

because of what happened at that time?

0:49:500:49:53

It was a long time ago, but it's not that long ago.

0:49:530:49:56

The fact that people are still alive who remember apartheid is a problem.

0:49:560:49:59

The fact that there are still people alive

0:49:590:50:02

who are holding on to feelings from that era is a problem,

0:50:020:50:05

and that is why there are some people, not all people,

0:50:050:50:08

some people who feel a level of resentment,

0:50:080:50:10

and why there is anger between blacks and whites.

0:50:100:50:13

Blood is blood and flesh is flesh, so just leave it.

0:50:170:50:20

It is history, but, but... You can't forget.

0:50:200:50:25

It's irresponsible to forget.

0:50:260:50:29

Come on, it's a new life. It's new.

0:50:290:50:32

So go forward!

0:50:320:50:35

You've got every right to be angry,

0:50:350:50:37

but so do black people in the townships.

0:50:370:50:38

There are lessons in what happened,

0:50:380:50:40

and I think the only way you move forward

0:50:400:50:42

is learning from what happened, as opposed to forgetting.

0:50:420:50:45

Stupid man!

0:50:450:50:46

That's why the world is like it is, because they can't forgive

0:50:460:50:51

and forget what happened in their lives.

0:50:510:50:54

That's why the world is a fuck-up. Straight talking.

0:50:540:50:57

That's why the world is fucked up.

0:50:570:51:00

But to forget what happened would be completely irresponsible,

0:51:000:51:03

because then you can't learn from what went wrong.

0:51:030:51:06

Hear me out...

0:51:060:51:07

I've told you what I think.

0:51:090:51:10

I've told you everything that I know,

0:51:100:51:14

everything I want to say to you, and that's that.

0:51:140:51:17

-We're not going to agree on it.

-We will never agree! Never!

0:51:170:51:20

Let me tell you one thing, my friend. We will never agree.

0:51:200:51:22

Forgiving and forgetting is not the way I live my life.

0:51:250:51:29

I've got a tattoo on my arm

0:51:290:51:30

that says "Never regret, never forget", you know?

0:51:300:51:33

I think it's important that you don't forget.

0:51:330:51:37

It's definitely important that you forgive,

0:51:370:51:39

and that's the only way things are going to change, if people forgive.

0:51:390:51:43

But you must never forget,

0:51:430:51:44

because if you forget, what the hell are you going to learn?

0:51:440:51:48

There is no quick fix

0:51:480:51:49

for the divisions and inequality in South Africa.

0:51:490:51:52

The poor Afrikaners I've met

0:51:520:51:54

are undoubtedly getting a rough deal now.

0:51:540:51:57

But if there is a price to pay for decades of oppression,

0:51:570:52:01

perhaps this is the least worst option.

0:52:010:52:03

In Pretoria, Hardus has asked me to meet him

0:52:060:52:09

after making it through to the final interview for his sales job.

0:52:090:52:13

-So today was the big day?

-I've got some bad news and some good news.

0:52:130:52:17

-OK, bad news first.

-I need to wake up early tomorrow morning.

0:52:170:52:21

Best news, I get to start working on my birthday, which is tomorrow!

0:52:210:52:27

Oh, my God. That's incredible.

0:52:270:52:30

That's unbelievable! Congratulations.

0:52:300:52:32

-What a birthday present.

-Yeah, it is. I really didn't expect this.

0:52:320:52:38

-What does this mean for you and your family?

-A better life,

0:52:380:52:41

which is what I've been hoping for, what I've been dreaming for.

0:52:410:52:44

-Does Vivian know yet?

-No.

0:52:440:52:47

Congratulations. Big news.

0:53:030:53:05

What's the first thing you want to do?

0:53:050:53:07

Just get out of this place. Move to a flat or something.

0:53:070:53:12

I can't let them grow up here in this place.

0:53:120:53:14

When I got the yes after I left the office, it was...

0:53:170:53:20

It just felt like I was taking a huge load of stuff off my shoulders.

0:53:210:53:25

So it's a big change for me.

0:53:250:53:27

I'm still going to make it, I'm still going to do it.

0:53:320:53:35

It's been a pleasure meeting you.

0:53:350:53:37

-Take care. Best of luck.

-Thank you!

-See you later, little man.

-Bye-bye!

0:53:370:53:42

Do I get a hug? See you later.

0:53:420:53:48

-Bye!

-Bye!

0:53:480:53:52

Bye, monkey.

0:53:540:53:57

'I'm really pleased that Hardus at least has made a positive change.

0:53:580:54:03

'I'd come here hoping to see a rainbow nation,

0:54:030:54:06

'but there's clearly some way to go.

0:54:060:54:08

'Integration is happening, but only in pockets.

0:54:080:54:12

'I'm surprised that it's the poor Afrikaners

0:54:120:54:15

'who feel they don't belong in South Africa.'

0:54:150:54:17

Essentially, black and white people are victims of apartheid,

0:54:170:54:21

and they're still feeling the effects of it.

0:54:210:54:24

It's a problem that's affected poor, rich, white and black.

0:54:250:54:29

Do you think that you're a victim of apartheid still?

0:54:300:54:34

Definitely, my generation are paying a price.

0:54:370:54:39

Paying a price for our forefathers.

0:54:430:54:47

South Africa's past is still haunting it.

0:54:470:54:51

But it won't be like that always.

0:54:550:54:58

Change takes time. It really does.

0:54:580:55:01

-Happy?

-Very happy. I look ten years younger! That's amazing. Nice work.

0:55:020:55:07

-Bye-bye.

-See you later, guys.

-Bye.

0:55:100:55:13

Always look to the trees and to the sky. Remember us then. Do.

0:55:150:55:21

It's a bit weird, um, seeing them react the way they have to me.

0:55:280:55:32

And it's...

0:55:320:55:33

If I'm going to be really honest, I feel strange leaving.

0:55:350:55:38

Not that I want to stay here, but...

0:55:390:55:42

You know, I'm going home, and I know what I'm going home to.

0:55:440:55:47

And they're staying here. Staying here in this.

0:55:470:55:53

This is how kids play here. This is the reality for them here.

0:55:540:55:58

And they are good people. Really good people.

0:55:590:56:02

My time in Coronation Park and Joburg has come to an end.

0:56:060:56:10

The people I've been living with are in a very difficult position,

0:56:100:56:14

but they still have made me very welcome, and that's important.

0:56:140:56:17

Thank you so much. Take care.

0:56:170:56:20

'During the years of apartheid,

0:56:200:56:22

'I wouldn't have even been allowed to set foot in this park.

0:56:220:56:25

'And that is progress, at least for me.'

0:56:250:56:27

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