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My family came to America fleeing persecution in Europe. For my mum's | :02:35. | :02:41. | |
parents it was the Pogroms of Russia in which thousands of Jews | :02:41. | :02:47. | |
died. As children my brothers and I were | :02:47. | :02:52. | |
taught we were the lucky ones who meat it out. But with that luck | :02:52. | :02:56. | |
came a responsibility. Never again didn't just mean that people like | :02:56. | :03:06. | |
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us shouldn't suffer. It meant Be seated, please, ladies and | :03:09. | :03:17. | |
gentlemen. I would like to summarise for you the meeting that | :03:17. | :03:22. | |
I have just had with bipartisan leaders. America's public enemy | :03:22. | :03:32. | |
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number one in the United States is Keep in mind that school is going | :04:05. | :04:15. | |
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to let these students out in 15 Sure we've got problems over this | :04:20. | :04:25. | |
nation but never forget, there's nothing wrong with America today | :04:25. | :04:34. | |
that a good election won't cure. That is why I believe the tide of | :04:35. | :04:38. | |
battle has concerned and we are beginning to win the crusade for a | :04:38. | :04:45. | |
drug-free America. What shame that we American people could act and be | :04:45. | :04:55. | |
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All of us must overcome the crippling legacy of bigotry and | :05:24. | :05:34. | |
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Democracy, liberty, opportunity and My name is Nannie Jeter. I was born | :06:06. | :06:14. | |
in Crewe Virginia, a very small town. Coming north, I think I would | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
prove I was going to conquer everything that needed to be | :06:17. | :06:22. | |
conquered. Nannie Jeter was like a second mother to me. Though she | :06:22. | :06:28. | |
started out working for my family, she was never a nanny, Nannie is | :06:28. | :06:38. | |
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The night is a celebration night. Our families were close and her | :06:45. | :06:50. | |
children and grandchildren were my play mates growing up. As we got | :06:50. | :06:55. | |
older, I saw many struggling with poverty, joblessness, crime and | :06:55. | :07:05. | |
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worse. When I asked her what she thought might have gone wrong, her | :07:06. | :07:14. | |
answer was simple. I think drugs. Drugs is the monster. The killing, | :07:14. | :07:18. | |
the steling, people being destroyed, it's devastating. What happened to | :07:18. | :07:24. | |
my son with drugs, I would love to change that. Drugs in America, | :07:24. | :07:27. | |
pollsters have identified that as the number one issue in this | :07:27. | :07:33. | |
country. They are taking drugs in growing numbers. A battle to | :07:33. | :07:39. | |
control the drug markets is deadly. To understand what drugs had done | :07:40. | :07:43. | |
to Nannie Jeter's family and others, I wanted to get out on the road to | :07:43. | :07:47. | |
talk to people. I know first hand the devastation we as a family have | :07:47. | :07:53. | |
had to endure because of the drugs. Putting it before my kids, putting | :07:53. | :07:58. | |
it before my mum, sister. I had two kids and I lost them to the streets | :07:58. | :08:02. | |
because of my own problems. Time and again I learned how one | :08:02. | :08:06. | |
person's struggle had grown into a crisis for their family and the | :08:06. | :08:11. | |
community. How many people here had any kind of drug involvement? | :08:11. | :08:17. | |
in here for selling drugs. I have a 30-year sentence. I killed a guy in | :08:17. | :08:23. | |
1984. I was doped and out of my head. As I began to look around, | :08:23. | :08:26. | |
the very real problems associated with drug abuse began to seem just | :08:26. | :08:34. | |
one part of an even larger problem facing the country. It's true that | :08:34. | :08:39. | |
drugs have destroyed lives, that heroin and cocaine, for example, do | :08:39. | :08:45. | |
nothing to engender individual dignity but while cover the drug | :08:45. | :08:51. | |
war as a journalist I came to understand the war against them has. | :08:51. | :08:55. | |
The war against drugs is heating up. Somebody said we are going to fight | :08:55. | :09:00. | |
a war against lis sit drugs because drugs are bad. There's no argument | :09:00. | :09:04. | |
there. But think about where we are 30 years later. If you look at all | :09:04. | :09:10. | |
the money spent on drug enforcement, prisons, probation officers, judges, | :09:10. | :09:14. | |
narcotics agents, and everything else that has expanded due to the | :09:14. | :09:18. | |
war on drugs t gratifies us and makes us feel we are tough on crime. | :09:18. | :09:24. | |
But to what end. We are the jailingest country on the planet, | :09:24. | :09:28. | |
beyond Russia or China. Nobody jails their population at the rate | :09:28. | :09:31. | |
we do. Yet drugs are purer than ever before, they are more | :09:32. | :09:37. | |
available, younger and younger kids willing to sell them. It's | :09:37. | :09:47. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 53 seconds | :09:47. | :10:41. | |
draconian and it doesn't work and I am not a big Superdrug dealer. I | :10:41. | :10:46. | |
do what I have to do, I know how to survive, I dib and dab if I have to. | :10:46. | :10:51. | |
It is not hard to tell these are the junkies, right. I think the | :10:51. | :10:57. | |
economy drives off drug money. You have judges getting high, too. Cops | :10:57. | :11:05. | |
sniffing coke. The boys are behind us. When I think about people | :11:05. | :11:09. | |
living in inner city neighbourhoods, think about the principle of a | :11:09. | :11:14. | |
quality of life chances. You should not be able to enter a hospital | :11:14. | :11:18. | |
ward in an inner City Hospital of newborn babies and predict with | :11:18. | :11:22. | |
near certainty on the basis of their class, background and race, | :11:22. | :11:26. | |
where these kids, where these healthy newborn babies are going to | :11:26. | :11:34. | |
end up in life. The dope lot, that is what this is, 77 Cromwell Towers. | :11:34. | :11:40. | |
This is where I'm from. For now. Every war starts with propaganda. | :11:40. | :11:49. | |
With the drug war our definition of what a drug user or drug seller is. | :11:49. | :11:59. | |
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Became almost a war time cartoon of The truth is drugs aren't yours, | :12:02. | :12:06. | |
you are just a minuteion, somebody without any real authority, selling | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
somebody else's dope. It is like fearing the guy at the dry through | :12:10. | :12:17. | |
win der at bur -- window at Burger King. Sometimes cops view you as | :12:17. | :12:25. | |
you live over here but they don't view you like them like twas your | :12:25. | :12:35. | |
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I I wouldn't want to work anywhere else. I feel the need to be here as | :12:42. | :12:47. | |
a minority superviser. Predominantly, a minority | :12:47. | :12:53. | |
neighbourhood. What we deal with here is a lot of lower level | :12:53. | :13:03. | |
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narcotic activity. We do mostly I will start making my way up there. | :13:09. | :13:19. | |
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Sometimes I think you can trace any Magic man, what is up? You been | :13:25. | :13:31. | |
drinking right? No. Sober. How long has it been? Two months now. Good | :13:31. | :13:37. | |
for you. You have a good one brother. Magic man, he's been | :13:37. | :13:44. | |
around forever. We like to look at the war on drugs as good guys and | :13:44. | :13:54. | |
bad guys and on the ground it is Drugs are never going to be gone. I | :13:54. | :14:02. | |
get that. To say you are going to be drug-free completely, (Laughs) | :14:02. | :14:06. | |
In drug work you never got that satisfaction, because you don't get | :14:06. | :14:10. | |
rid of drugs. You have small victories here and there, but if | :14:10. | :14:14. | |
you look at the big picture, are we getting anywhere, you could be | :14:14. | :14:24. | |
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Anybody else in the store? No. going to get you the search warrant. | :14:32. | :14:42. | |
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You can smell it in here. You want a hair cut? He's got cocaine | :14:42. | :14:52. | |
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If you talk to people in law enforcement, they believe that the | :15:02. | :15:11. | |
community is completely corrupt. They believe everybody's living off | :15:11. | :15:16. | |
drug money, that there is no moral centre. They see communities that | :15:16. | :15:21. | |
blame everybody but themselves for what's going on. And then you talk | :15:21. | :15:25. | |
to those communities and they genuinely believe that law | :15:25. | :15:32. | |
enforcement is using drug laws to destroy the community. Over time, I | :15:32. | :15:41. | |
have discovered that everybody involved hates what's going on. | :15:41. | :15:44. | |
is interesting with this war on drugs, how little the American | :15:44. | :15:52. | |
people know. I never thought about it before. As I started to ask | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
around, I found if people knew anything about the war on drugs, | :15:56. | :16:00. | |
they thought I was talking about something in a foreign country. | :16:00. | :16:09. | |
6500 people died in drug-related incidents in Mexico last last year. | :16:09. | :16:17. | |
The biggest drug industry in the world, isn't in Mexico, not in | :16:17. | :16:22. | |
Colombia, or Afghanistan, it is in the United States. We in the United | :16:22. | :16:27. | |
States perhaps, our dirty little secret between 10 and 16 billion | :16:27. | :16:31. | |
dollars are spent by Americans to pay for these illegal drugs, | :16:31. | :16:35. | |
creating a demand. The thing about the war on drugs is, it tries to to | :16:35. | :16:41. | |
deal with the health problem as if it was a legal problem. When people | :16:42. | :16:48. | |
are distressed they want to smooth their distress. So the real sque | :16:48. | :16:53. | |
not why the addiction, but why the pain. One of the realities, most | :16:53. | :16:56. | |
people get interested in this country for drugs are selling drugs | :16:56. | :17:02. | |
to support their own habit. If you stand in a court, you are watching | :17:02. | :17:06. | |
poor uneducated people be fed into a machine, like meat to make | :17:06. | :17:16. | |
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sausage, it's bang, bang, bang, My mum used to tell me I was going | :17:17. | :17:24. | |
to die before I turned 18. When I was 14-years-old, that is when I | :17:24. | :17:33. | |
started getting into fights and stuff like that. Now, I'm 28-years- | :17:33. | :17:40. | |
old, sentenced for crack cocaine. am the discricket court -- District | :17:40. | :17:49. | |
Court Judge. I have sent over 2600 people to federal prison. | :17:49. | :17:58. | |
I grew up around gang members and drug dealers. They were my role | :17:58. | :18:04. | |
models. Coming here today, Maurice's best chance is a sentence | :18:04. | :18:11. | |
of 20 years. Drug laws often carry what are called mandatory minimum | :18:11. | :18:16. | |
sentences below witch a judge cannot sentence a defendant. | :18:16. | :18:21. | |
have a guy like Maurice, who grows up in a bad family situation with | :18:21. | :18:24. | |
heartbreaking details of how he got where he is today, but even if the | :18:25. | :18:32. | |
judge wanted to give him a sentence below 20 years, he can't. My mother | :18:32. | :18:37. | |
was addicted to drugs. I don't remember my father at all. He got | :18:37. | :18:43. | |
killed when I was three-years-old. There was a death around me, I seen | :18:43. | :18:49. | |
a lot of people die, a lot of friends are dead. It could have | :18:49. | :18:59. | |
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We are here in the Bible belt, law and order Oklahoma, the prison is | :19:30. | :19:34. | |
the largest employer in the county. Employees live all around here. If | :19:34. | :19:41. | |
you take out a prison, the towns would dry up. I don't know there is | :19:41. | :19:44. | |
a job I could do better in the world. They should have written | :19:44. | :19:53. | |
prison guard on my head when I was born. The job was built for me. | :19:53. | :20:00. | |
incarcerate women at the highest per capita rate. We have 1500 | :20:00. | :20:06. | |
inmates, majority of our drug- related crimes. I am here on a 12- | :20:06. | :20:10. | |
year drug trafficking sentence. am 34-years-old, I have been here | :20:10. | :20:16. | |
since I was 23. I am doing a life sentence for second degree murder. | :20:16. | :20:25. | |
I killed a guy in a bad drug deal. I have sold tonnes of dope. We have | :20:25. | :20:30. | |
a nice secure facility, I can keep anyone you want to keep. The | :20:30. | :20:37. | |
facility is as secure as it can get. Turn around spread your butt, | :20:37. | :20:42. | |
spread it with your hands. As it turns out drug laws have | :20:42. | :20:48. | |
become so harsh, even the the non- violent can be locked up with | :20:48. | :20:54. | |
sentences once reserved for violent crimes. We need to lock up people | :20:54. | :21:04. | |
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we are afraid you of, but not the I am a law and order guy, I am a | :21:09. | :21:15. | |
firm believer, no free rides. Here you recognise that your chances to | :21:15. | :21:19. | |
manipulate the system are done. That door slams behind you and you | :21:19. | :21:22. | |
have absolutely no ability to control what goes on on the other | :21:22. | :21:26. | |
side of that door. You can't open the door. This is where most people, | :21:26. | :21:30. | |
if they are a newcomer and first time offender, they really figure | :21:30. | :21:36. | |
out this is prison. This is what the next five, ten, 15, 20, 30 | :21:36. | :21:46. | |
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years of your life looks like, this While following the steps that so | :21:47. | :21:51. | |
many Americans take through the world of the drug war I couldn't | :21:51. | :21:56. | |
help but notice at every stage black Americans were | :21:56. | :22:00. | |
disproportionately represented. every war you have an enemy. When | :22:00. | :22:10. | |
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you think about the impact on poor people of colour. We haven't been | :22:16. | :22:20. | |
willing to look in the mirror and ask ourselves what is going on. | :22:20. | :22:25. | |
it turns out nearly everyone I talked to knew about the impact of | :22:25. | :22:34. | |
the drug war on black America. Disproportionate number of black | :22:34. | :22:37. | |
people are prosecuted. While people could tell me all about their first | :22:37. | :22:41. | |
hand experience of this, very few had any idea where it came from. | :22:41. | :22:46. | |
Here is America as you and I like to think of it, the land of the | :22:46. | :22:51. | |
free and the home of the brave. But from every part of the nation come | :22:51. | :22:55. | |
newspaper headlines telling us of an enemy, America's secret enemy | :22:55. | :23:05. | |
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The drug war began as a war on dangerous narcotics. You can trace | :23:14. | :23:18. | |
modern drugs enforcement back to the early 50s. When you start today | :23:18. | :23:24. | |
see the rise of the urban narcotics squads. Government agencies charged | :23:24. | :23:29. | |
with the enforcement of narcotics laws have been able until recently | :23:29. | :23:34. | |
to decrease steadily the number of addicts in the US. It was plausible | :23:34. | :23:38. | |
as a policy because the use of the dangerous narcotics was a counter- | :23:38. | :23:44. | |
culture. It was the jazz man's vice, it was in the back alleys. There | :23:44. | :23:49. | |
was no mass marketing, no drive up drug corners. It was a very small | :23:49. | :23:51. | |
percentage of the American population that was engaged in the | :23:51. | :23:59. | |
use of heroin or cocaine. In the 1950s as drug use was was growing, | :23:59. | :24:09. | |
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law enforcement became focused on There's no question there was a | :24:21. | :24:26. | |
passion with which the early narcotics enforcement culture | :24:26. | :24:29. | |
pursued black America, even though the addict population was | :24:29. | :24:39. | |
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distinctly bye racial. In the 06s drug use grew widespread in America. | :24:41. | :24:46. | |
By the late 06s most urban areas had a mass market for drugs. By the | :24:46. | :24:50. | |
'80s you were looking at McDonald's. At that point you can't claim you | :24:50. | :24:54. | |
are try to go isolate a counter cultural phenomenon. You are | :24:55. | :25:04. | |
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fighting a war against a whole In October 2009 I joined Nannie | :25:16. | :25:19. | |
Jeter at the funeral of a family member I knew. Over the years drug | :25:19. | :25:24. | |
had dep lie affected her life and the funeral brought back terrible | :25:24. | :25:31. | |
memories for her. My son James died in 89, or 87, I can't quite | :25:31. | :25:37. | |
remember. Before he died he said mummy, I'm tired of tI cannot live | :25:38. | :25:43. | |
this life. It doesn't matter what I do, I just just want to die. All I | :25:43. | :25:48. | |
know my son used a needle. Though I had known about James's death at | :25:48. | :25:53. | |
the time, I didn't know the extechbt his addiction or how | :25:53. | :25:59. | |
widely the war on drugs had affected the family. I began to | :25:59. | :26:07. | |
realise the full extent of T didn't realise my father was a | :26:07. | :26:11. | |
heroin addict. I got the news in jail. What were you in jail for? | :26:11. | :26:21. | |
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Drugs. Drugs have been going on for so long, it's tough. Again and | :26:21. | :26:26. | |
again I heard how drug drug laws had done more to punish individuals | :26:26. | :26:32. | |
than to prevent a serious effort to prevent prevent drug abuse. What | :26:32. | :26:35. | |
was it doing to other families. There is a structural problem in | :26:35. | :26:40. | |
the country that we keep ignoring. We have two million people in our | :26:40. | :26:45. | |
jails and prisons and a million are African-American, most males. That | :26:45. | :26:50. | |
is a pattern that has overwhelmed the African-American community | :26:50. | :26:54. | |
because we have a generation of kids that have the assumption that | :26:54. | :26:58. | |
they are destined to be in the criminal justice system. What | :26:58. | :27:02. | |
people need to see is the next generation of children aren't going | :27:02. | :27:07. | |
to be like I was or like my parents were or like my grandparents were, | :27:07. | :27:17. | |
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a generation better than those who At the precinct they told me my | :27:22. | :27:32. | |
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charge charge was a conspiracy 24-year-old Anthony Johnson of New | :27:43. | :27:53. | |
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York was arrested along with two Right now you have pled guilty to a | :27:58. | :28:04. | |
charge which requires a five-year mandatory minimum. I can't get less | :28:04. | :28:08. | |
than five years, that seems harsh when you think about the fact he is | :28:08. | :28:13. | |
not violent at all. It is critical to present Anthony as more than a | :28:13. | :28:21. | |
drug dealer. John is one of the best criminal defence lawyers in | :28:21. | :28:26. | |
Vermont. I needed help with this kid. Though Anthony Johnson was | :28:26. | :28:29. | |
arrested in Vermont he is originally from the very same New | :28:29. | :28:36. | |
York housing project when I first met Shaniqua. You know Anthony. | :28:36. | :28:40. | |
He's 24-years-old, he is looking at five to 40 years of jail. By the | :28:40. | :28:45. | |
time he gets out he won't have a life. Following Anthony's legal | :28:45. | :28:49. | |
team as they investigated the steps lead to go his arrest, I learned | :28:49. | :28:53. | |
more about where he came from. More clearly than before I could see how | :28:53. | :29:00. | |
the vicious cycle of the drug war spans generations. I wish my father | :29:00. | :29:05. | |
was there for me. I I was outside the front of the building and I | :29:05. | :29:13. | |
noticed him doing a little hand to hand, and and then I figured he was | :29:13. | :29:16. | |
a drug dealer. I seen him a couple of times doing it. Did sku him | :29:16. | :29:23. | |
about it? No, I never asked him. Why? Because I don't ask those | :29:23. | :29:33. | |
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questions, I knew. I really didn't When I heard of it, he's selling | :29:46. | :29:52. | |
drugs, to be honest with you, to be totally honest with you, it didn't | :29:52. | :30:02. | |
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surprise me. Where we lived, where he came out of. The drug dealers | :30:05. | :30:09. | |
are looked at as leaders of the community. If your mom can't pay | :30:09. | :30:15. | |
the rent, they pay the rent F you need food, they would give money to | :30:15. | :30:20. | |
the household for food. Everybody wanted new converse and he would | :30:20. | :30:24. | |
get them for you. The drug dealer would come from up the block, you | :30:24. | :30:28. | |
pick out a pair, you pick out a pair. We came back on the block, we | :30:28. | :30:36. | |
all carrying sneaker boxes. Everybody wanted to know. We would | :30:36. | :30:41. | |
tell them where we got them from. Every time he came on the block, | :30:41. | :30:51. | |
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you were under him. Ice-cream van came, he bought us ice-cream and he | :30:54. | :30:59. | |
didn't have to pay. He would tell the man, get them an ice-cream and | :30:59. | :31:04. | |
we all got ice-cream. Honestly, I loved him. I loved him because when | :31:04. | :31:10. | |
they came around, it was Christmas. As you get older, they say you get | :31:10. | :31:15. | |
your own money, sell drugs. I don't know how to sell drugs, I said. He | :31:16. | :31:20. | |
said, you don't have to know how to sell them. He gave me the drugs, I | :31:20. | :31:25. | |
stood there and he would point and they would come to me. I had my own | :31:25. | :31:35. | |
sneaker money, I had my own movie money and my own power. Where I | :31:35. | :31:40. | |
come from, the neighbourhood, he was hood famous. My Big Brother | :31:41. | :31:45. | |
came from doing the same thing. But it was mostly one person, my man | :31:45. | :31:50. | |
tAY, he was everything I wanted to be. He had the girls, the clothes, | :31:50. | :31:56. | |
all the jewellery, the cars, the money. That is what I wanted. | :31:56. | :32:06. | |
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wanted to be Tay. Tay showed me how John, I missed your call. I wanted | :32:10. | :32:18. | |
to check with you and give you a chance to talk to Alicia where we | :32:18. | :32:25. | |
are at. Anything under ten, I try and make them go beyond that. Five | :32:25. | :32:31. | |
to 40 would scare me. I was always proud of him, but I always figured | :32:31. | :32:39. | |
he was OK, that he was good. I know I screwed up. You need that father | :32:39. | :32:45. | |
figure in your life. I know my daughter needs me and I don't want | :32:45. | :32:49. | |
me and her to have the same relationship me and my father had, | :32:49. | :32:59. | |
:32:59. | :33:10. | ||
looking at me in pictures. I don't Watching Anthony's child sleep | :33:10. | :33:14. | |
hundreds of miles from her father, I could see the painful cycle | :33:14. | :33:18. | |
gripping his family but I also had to wonder what compelled him to | :33:18. | :33:22. | |
make the choices he Z It is interesting people ask the question, | :33:22. | :33:25. | |
what about personal responsibility. You only thing you don't do is | :33:25. | :33:29. | |
blame criminals for the crime that they committed. You blame everybody | :33:29. | :33:33. | |
else and everything else. I wish the answer were that simple, but | :33:33. | :33:39. | |
let's take a little step back. There are structural impediments. | :33:39. | :33:42. | |
What you see over and over again in urban America are kids who live in | :33:42. | :33:47. | |
a crowded home, who are hungry when they go to school, lack attention | :33:47. | :33:51. | |
because they have heard noise and gunshots where they live. I don't | :33:51. | :33:56. | |
think people fully understand in the inner city, these kids are | :33:56. | :34:01. | |
making rational choices. I profiled a girl like this, a ten-year-old | :34:01. | :34:04. | |
girl, the men she steps out of the door way, there are drug dealers | :34:04. | :34:09. | |
out there, no economic opportunity. The school is warehousing her. She | :34:09. | :34:14. | |
doesn't see any prospects. How is she supposed to get out. At the end | :34:14. | :34:19. | |
of the day when there are no resources here and your teachers | :34:19. | :34:22. | |
aren't stressing to you come to class, not caring, you are not | :34:22. | :34:27. | |
going to come to school, you are going to sell drugs. To go to the | :34:27. | :34:33. | |
drug kofrner is the rational act for somebody going to work for the | :34:33. | :34:40. | |
only company in a town, which is the only economy working in this | :34:40. | :34:46. | |
town. Those arrested soon find themselves in a cycle from which | :34:46. | :34:51. | |
few ever really escape. People don't realise that when you arrest | :34:52. | :34:56. | |
a young black man, the first thing when he gets out of prison, he | :34:56. | :34:59. | |
can't get a job because of his record. If you have a felony charge | :34:59. | :35:03. | |
you need to be working, trying to move yourself forward. If he wants | :35:03. | :35:08. | |
to go back to school, he is ineligible by law for certain | :35:08. | :35:13. | |
grants. He can't get certain health care benefits. He can't live in | :35:13. | :35:16. | |
certain neighbourhoods. His family that was the centre piece of his | :35:16. | :35:21. | |
life, if they are living in public housing, they can't take him in | :35:21. | :35:26. | |
only people who deserve to live in public housing are those who live | :35:26. | :35:34. | |
responsibilityy there. For the rest of your life you have to check that | :35:34. | :35:38. | |
box on employment applications, dreading that question, have you | :35:38. | :35:48. | |
:35:48. | :35:51. | ||
been convicted of a felony. As a physician I am concerned with the | :35:51. | :35:56. | |
cash yul tis of the war on drugs, the frontline users and petty | :35:56. | :35:59. | |
dealers. Rather than seeing the drug problem in isolation, you have | :35:59. | :36:05. | |
to see it in a social context. These are not problems that are | :36:05. | :36:11. | |
just intrinsic to individuals. They represent multi-generational family | :36:11. | :36:15. | |
and social conditions and human failure. You say all the things | :36:15. | :36:19. | |
that you knew when you were coming up that was wrong. Now I am | :36:19. | :36:22. | |
starting to do them, but I can't control it because I got these | :36:22. | :36:27. | |
problems. I am using drugs, I am halfway selling drugs, using drugs | :36:27. | :36:37. | |
:36:37. | :36:43. | ||
and now I got these two little boys. I don't know how to really be their | :36:43. | :36:53. | |
:36:53. | :37:00. | ||
dad. I know I am supposed to. I don't know how to stop doing what | :37:00. | :37:08. | |
I'm doing. To be their dad. Seeing the pain Anthony's father carries | :37:08. | :37:13. | |
over both his oin choices and the infact of outside pressures I | :37:13. | :37:17. | |
wondered how a matter of public health didn't just inspire drug | :37:17. | :37:23. | |
laws but became the full blown target of a war. America's public | :37:23. | :37:28. | |
enemy number one is drug abuse. In order to fight and defeat it, it is | :37:28. | :37:38. | |
:37:38. | :37:40. | ||
necessary to wage a new all-out offensive. The US war on drugs was | :37:40. | :37:44. | |
initiated under President Richard Nixon to get his polls up. From | :37:44. | :37:49. | |
most people I talk to the drug war was born in the late 60s under | :37:49. | :37:52. | |
Richard Nixon. I have no sympathy for the pushers and peddlers and | :37:52. | :37:59. | |
others in this country. We are going to restore freedom in America | :37:59. | :38:04. | |
again. When Nixon ran for President, he talked about the problem of | :38:04. | :38:07. | |
crime in the streets. The wave of crime is not going to be the wave | :38:07. | :38:10. | |
of the future in the United States of America. This is really the | :38:10. | :38:14. | |
first time in a major way that the issue of drug crime became a | :38:14. | :38:20. | |
national political issue. Richard Nixon is credited as the first to | :38:20. | :38:25. | |
coin the term a war on drugs, what most people don't realise is that | :38:25. | :38:30. | |
under Nixon, two-thirds of the drug war budget was devoted to drement | :38:30. | :38:35. | |
rather than -- treatment rather than law enforcement A programme of | :38:35. | :38:40. | |
law enforcement alone is not enough. He understood the need to address | :38:40. | :38:44. | |
addiction. This means that on the treatment of addicts, we must go | :38:44. | :38:49. | |
parallel... He did things that were progressive, by standards of what | :38:49. | :38:59. | |
came after him. The more I learned about Nixon, the more confusing he | :38:59. | :39:03. | |
became. Privately he knew he would be more successful with drug | :39:03. | :39:07. | |
treatment than enforcement but publicly Nixon returned to the | :39:07. | :39:11. | |
simple crime fighting rhetoric that worked for him before. We must wage | :39:11. | :39:15. | |
what I have called total war against public enemy number one in | :39:15. | :39:20. | |
the United States, the drug of dangerous drugs. Nixon is re- | :39:20. | :39:25. | |
elected... As his tough talk proved a recipe for electoral success, | :39:25. | :39:35. | |
:39:35. | :39:59. | ||
I am very much a law and order kind of guy. I would rather have ten | :39:59. | :40:05. | |
police cars than one soup kitchen. But sometimes I think we need to be | :40:05. | :40:07. | |
smarter about what those police officers are actually out there | :40:07. | :40:15. | |
doing. Maybe because he's seen the epitome of a hardened prison | :40:15. | :40:22. | |
official. I think a long time ago we made drugs into this huge thing | :40:22. | :40:32. | |
and we've made it so illegal and we've made it such a national issue | :40:32. | :40:36. | |
with that tough on crime stance, you can't get elected few don't | :40:36. | :40:41. | |
profess to be tough on crime. have tone sure drug dealers are | :40:41. | :40:45. | |
punished, swiftly surely and severely. You can't stay elected | :40:45. | :40:50. | |
few don't do things to be tough on crime. Beef up law enforcement and | :40:50. | :40:54. | |
build new prison space for 24,000 inmates. Nobody can afford to be | :40:54. | :40:57. | |
the first guy to say wait a minute we can't afford what we are doing, | :40:57. | :41:02. | |
let's do something different. If you made a noise like like you are | :41:02. | :41:12. | |
:41:12. | :41:32. | ||
going to be soft on crime, you People It is like they are paying | :41:32. | :41:38. | |
for our fear instead of paying for their crime. I heard the same | :41:38. | :41:41. | |
frustration, that political rhetoric robs them of the resources | :41:41. | :41:44. | |
they need to do their jobs. People want to lock people up and keep | :41:45. | :41:48. | |
them locked away and then when their sen sense is over they expect | :41:48. | :41:52. | |
the person to be reformed or a different person. If you haven't | :41:52. | :42:01. | |
given them skills, how can they be. I am a cabinet making here, when | :42:01. | :42:08. | |
these guys get out of prison we help them get a job. He's got one | :42:08. | :42:12. | |
strike against him, but he can say I am a licenced electrician or | :42:12. | :42:16. | |
carpenter. For a lot of guys you have they are had self-respect, I | :42:16. | :42:20. | |
guess. It's been false self-respect, because they were tough or because | :42:20. | :42:23. | |
they stole a lot or because they sold a lot of drugs. This gives | :42:23. | :42:28. | |
them the chance to anchor themselves to something good in | :42:28. | :42:32. | |
these rehabilitation programmes. Prison is not a nice place, but I | :42:32. | :42:36. | |
am glad I came here, it's made me a better person. This programme is | :42:36. | :42:41. | |
the best thing that happened to me in my life. We are seeking change, | :42:41. | :42:45. | |
accepting we cannot change our past but can change our future. | :42:45. | :42:50. | |
problem is when you get into lean budget times, the citizens of | :42:50. | :42:52. | |
Oklahoma say if we have to spend money on something, let's spend | :42:53. | :42:58. | |
money on fences, handcuffs, cell doors. The rehabilitation | :42:58. | :43:03. | |
programmes are the first thing to get cut. If we don't have the | :43:03. | :43:08. | |
resource available, that equates to not not being able to give an | :43:08. | :43:13. | |
offender a trade or skill and they go back to the same behaviour on | :43:13. | :43:23. | |
:43:23. | :43:46. | ||
I am Larry Cearley, the marshal here. Magdalena is a small spot. We | :43:46. | :43:51. | |
are 250 miles from the Mexican border. We have US Highway 60, a | :43:51. | :43:55. | |
main corridor for drugs. For the last 29 years I have been working | :43:55. | :44:00. | |
in law enforcement, the the major thing that's changed is drug | :44:00. | :44:10. | |
:44:10. | :44:10. | ||
trafficking. At first glance he seemed from a bygone re of law | :44:10. | :44:18. | |
enforcement. But as enforcing drug laution has | :44:18. | :44:22. | |
become the the primary focus for police here, the nature of his work | :44:22. | :44:32. | |
:44:32. | :44:50. | ||
We are fishing, but you look at trucks like this, that is an | :44:50. | :44:53. | |
Arizona truck, somebody has been driving for 24 house because they | :44:53. | :44:56. | |
don't want to get caught. This is telling me this person right here | :44:57. | :45:03. | |
could be a drug trafficking. What is giving you that impression? | :45:03. | :45:11. | |
truck and fast food. It is supposed to be illegal to profile, but after | :45:11. | :45:16. | |
working so long, you kind of know who is doing something. Is it sort | :45:16. | :45:19. | |
of phoney when people say they don't profile? It is all phoney. It | :45:20. | :45:24. | |
is all phoney. If you don't profile vehicles, you are not in law | :45:24. | :45:28. | |
enforcement. That is the way it is, man. Come on. What about profiling | :45:28. | :45:38. | |
:45:38. | :45:48. | ||
What the war on drugs did was destroy the police deterrent in a | :45:48. | :45:56. | |
subtle and unintended way. Going up to 15th street and dixie, he's | :45:56. | :46:02. | |
going to have crack. We are sargeants in narcotics and we don't | :46:02. | :46:06. | |
do street level drug deals. We do larger quantity cases, looking for | :46:06. | :46:14. | |
dealers and and suppliers. A world away in the streets of Miami, I | :46:14. | :46:20. | |
began to see the real impact of the drug war in law enforcement | :46:20. | :46:30. | |
:46:30. | :46:34. | ||
Totally unrelated to the drug deal, but we stumbled on a house with a | :46:34. | :46:41. | |
lot of money, marijuana. Sometimes that is how things happened. Nobody | :46:41. | :46:45. | |
respects police work more than me. There are a lot of detectives who I | :46:45. | :46:51. | |
admire for their professionalism and craft. The drug war created an | :46:51. | :46:58. | |
environment in which none of that was rewarded. A drug arrest does | :46:58. | :47:03. | |
not require anything other than getting out of your radio car and | :47:03. | :47:08. | |
jacking people up. Probably cause, are you kidding? There is a good | :47:08. | :47:13. | |
number of people in this area that are involved in drug dealing. | :47:13. | :47:18. | |
problem there is a real tendency on the part of law enforcement to | :47:18. | :47:23. | |
think geographicically to throw resources at an area. It is fish in | :47:23. | :47:28. | |
a barrel for law enforcement. When you need to make an arrest, you | :47:28. | :47:34. | |
trawl through there. People who are in the area not not committing | :47:34. | :47:39. | |
crimes get stopped. It makes everybody angry. Watching arrest | :47:39. | :47:42. | |
after arrest, I began to see for the first time the destructive | :47:42. | :47:46. | |
impact of drug laws not only on those they target but on those who | :47:46. | :47:51. | |
enforce them as well. The problem is that cop that made that cheap | :47:51. | :47:54. | |
drug arrest, he is going to get paid. He will get the hours of | :47:54. | :47:59. | |
overtime for taking the drugs Doug. He is going to get paid for | :47:59. | :48:01. | |
processing the prisoner. He is going to get paid for sitting back | :48:01. | :48:06. | |
at his desk and writing the paperwork and he is going to do | :48:06. | :48:10. | |
that 60 times a month so his base pay might end up being half of what | :48:10. | :48:20. | |
:48:20. | :48:22. | ||
he is paid as a police officer. We are paying a guy for stats. Compare | :48:22. | :48:26. | |
that guy to the one guy doing police work, solving a murder, a | :48:26. | :48:33. | |
rape a robbery, if he gets lucky he makes one arrest for the month. He | :48:33. | :48:39. | |
gets one slip signed. At the end of the Monday, officer A made 60 | :48:39. | :48:42. | |
arrests, officer B made one arrest. Who do you think they make the | :48:42. | :48:48. | |
sergeant. In a city like Baltimore, our percentage of arrest for murder | :48:48. | :48:53. | |
rape and robbery are half of what they once were. Our drug arrest | :48:53. | :48:58. | |
stats are twice what they once were. It makes the city unlivable. Nobody | :48:58. | :49:03. | |
can solve a fucking crime. Beyond the incentives that exist for | :49:04. | :49:07. | |
individual officers it turns out whole departments have a monetary | :49:07. | :49:11. | |
interest in increased drug arrests. Most people don't realise that the | :49:11. | :49:15. | |
financial incentive is built into the system, virtually guarantee the | :49:15. | :49:18. | |
overwhelming majority of drug arrests in the United States will | :49:18. | :49:23. | |
be for non-violent, low level drug offences. A couple of months ago we | :49:23. | :49:28. | |
did a two day operation and arrests 200 people, majority of them for | :49:28. | :49:33. | |
selling drugs. A lot of the money comes out of seizures from the drug | :49:33. | :49:37. | |
profits, the bigger players are making off this. So I guess that | :49:37. | :49:47. | |
:49:47. | :49:48. | ||
If I leave this room but go out there and get in my old truck and | :49:48. | :49:53. | |
drive down the highway with $5,000 cash in my pocket that I earned, if | :49:53. | :49:58. | |
I am pulled over by a state trooper, defective tail light or something s | :49:58. | :50:03. | |
they can take that that $5,000, never charge me with a crime, take | :50:03. | :50:10. | |
my truck, keep them forever. It goes on every day in counties all | :50:10. | :50:16. | |
over this country. Can we get a toe slip for this fine piece of | :50:16. | :50:26. | |
:50:26. | :50:30. | ||
$25,000 I got out of a seizure. police department operates on the | :50:30. | :50:36. | |
money it seize s? Sometimes. This is legal within the state of New | :50:36. | :50:46. | |
:50:46. | :50:49. | ||
Mexico. It is legal. What happens is with every successive encounter | :50:49. | :50:58. | |
with a citizen that goes awry... The guy was upset, that we were | :50:58. | :51:05. | |
stopping him illegally. He feels he was violated. Is that fair? Maybe | :51:05. | :51:11. | |
not. Despite their commitment to their work, officers expressed | :51:11. | :51:15. | |
growing concern not only about the effectiveness of drug laws but also | :51:15. | :51:20. | |
their larger impact on the police and the public. How much time the | :51:20. | :51:26. | |
community has spent feeling like they couldn't trust the police, it | :51:26. | :51:32. | |
is one of the biggest problems. Providence, officers who appeared | :51:32. | :51:41. | |
on TV as the picture of tough on crime cops to years, seem | :51:41. | :51:44. | |
conflicted over what a better approach might look like. If you go | :51:44. | :51:54. | |
out there and cause chaos, and sent to boot camp, national service. | :51:54. | :52:01. | |
Something. We are doing our part out here and it is frustrating for | :52:01. | :52:04. | |
us because it it seems likes because they are addicts they find | :52:04. | :52:09. | |
themselves committing the same crime, that put them in jail, a | :52:09. | :52:19. | |
:52:19. | :52:23. | ||
week or so prior. Can I see your ID please. Some responsibility lies | :52:23. | :52:28. | |
with the parents. Straighten your kid out. That is easier said than | :52:28. | :52:33. | |
do, when you have absentee patients. Sometimes the father is non- | :52:33. | :52:36. | |
existent, the mother is trying to raise a family. Those kids, the | :52:36. | :52:46. | |
percentage of kids that break out of that is really really low. If | :52:46. | :52:51. | |
you keep having kids and you can't afford them, you know what, you | :52:51. | :53:01. | |
:53:01. | :53:03. | ||
have to have a certain amount of responsibility. I am not saying | :53:03. | :53:11. | |
spay them, but come on. I pay them 5,000 dollars to get a vasectomy or | :53:11. | :53:19. | |
something, it's cheaper in the long run. Why are you laughing? | :53:20. | :53:26. | |
Watching seasoned drug warriors struggle for answers. I wondered | :53:26. | :53:30. | |
what it was about drugs that made them such a perceived danger in the | :53:30. | :53:35. | |
first place. You have to understand the war on drugs has never been | :53:35. | :53:45. | |
:53:45. | :53:52. | ||
Looking to find out more about the longer hestry of drugs in America, | :53:52. | :54:02. | |
:54:02. | :54:02. | ||
I found an unlikely source in Lincoln historian Richard miller. | :54:02. | :54:08. | |
Historically anti-drug laws have always been associated with race. | :54:08. | :54:14. | |
In the 1,800s certain kinds of drugs were common in this country, | :54:14. | :54:18. | |
cocaine was widely used. Heroin. People using drugs was something | :54:18. | :54:26. | |
that was just ordinarily accepted. Opium for example was used by | :54:26. | :54:30. | |
middle-aged successful Whitehouse wives in the south. If people were | :54:30. | :54:34. | |
addicted or abusing drugs they were viewed sympathetically as people | :54:34. | :54:39. | |
who had to be helped. It was Seen as a public health issue. One of | :54:39. | :54:44. | |
the first changes was on the west coast when smoking opium was made a | :54:44. | :54:49. | |
criminal offence. Why would opium smoking be illegal in California | :54:49. | :54:53. | |
but not in Mississippi. What was going on in California that was a | :54:53. | :54:56. | |
concern about smoking opium. It had nothing to do with opium itself. | :54:56. | :54:59. | |
The concern was with the people associated with smoking opium and | :54:59. | :55:06. | |
that was the Chinese. Who had come to this country and many of whom | :55:06. | :55:09. | |
were in California, working hard, working for very little pay, and | :55:09. | :55:13. | |
becoming part of the American success story. But their success | :55:13. | :55:18. | |
was taking jobs away from white workers, so politicians got | :55:18. | :55:23. | |
together and decided they got to find something about the Chinese | :55:23. | :55:27. | |
for which they can be criminalised to get them out of the way. You | :55:27. | :55:30. | |
can't throw people in jail because they are Chinese, but you can throw | :55:30. | :55:35. | |
them in jail because they smoke opium. In the same way we saw | :55:35. | :55:40. | |
things going on with cocaine. It was mid sl aged successful people | :55:40. | :55:44. | |
in this country, business executives, physicians, house wives. | :55:44. | :55:48. | |
Around the turn of the century cocaine began being associated with | :55:48. | :55:56. | |
blacks. They can with stand - they can work hard all day long again | :55:56. | :56:03. | |
threatening the jobs of white workers. They were arresting these | :56:03. | :56:07. | |
people because they committed some sort of drug violation. Next we see | :56:07. | :56:15. | |
the change in reputation that hip has had. It was a crop from | :56:15. | :56:20. | |
colonial times. Then in the '30s, it changed into something vicious | :56:20. | :56:25. | |
and fearsome called marijuana because at that time marijuana | :56:25. | :56:28. | |
smoking was being associated with Mexicans, working hard, working | :56:28. | :56:32. | |
cheap and what was being outlawed was not being Mexican but some | :56:32. | :56:39. | |
habit associated with Mexicans. These laws set a very dangerous | :56:40. | :56:44. | |
precedent of control. It seemed time and again drug laws targeted | :56:44. | :56:46. | |
any immigrant group seen as a threat to the established economic | :56:46. | :56:50. | |
order. But how then did black Americans who came to this country | :56:50. | :56:54. | |
over 200 years ago become the primary targets of drug laws in the | :56:54. | :56:59. | |
modern era. The way to think about African-American history is an | :56:59. | :57:02. | |
immigrant story. The transition from the rural to the urban, it is | :57:02. | :57:07. | |
one of the great mass migrations in the history of the world. When | :57:07. | :57:11. | |
blacks came out of slavery they were heavily concentrated in the | :57:11. | :57:15. | |
south and farming type jobs, as industries were expanding in the | :57:15. | :57:19. | |
north, blacks were recruited to come to work in factories. This | :57:19. | :57:25. | |
gave rise to the great migration of blacks flowing into urban areas. | :57:25. | :57:29. | |
Before she came to work for my family Nannie Jeter joined the wave | :57:29. | :57:32. | |
of black Americans who moved north during the great migration. She | :57:32. | :57:38. | |
took me to her childhood home in southern Virginia. We grew up with | :57:38. | :57:44. | |
a beautiful outside life, the Old Vic role la would play and we would | :57:44. | :57:48. | |
dance and it was a completely different world. I loved life in | :57:48. | :57:53. | |
the south. In that environment that seemed so wonderful in the south y | :57:53. | :58:03. | |
:58:03. | :58:07. | ||
did you decide you wanted to leave the south? I left the south because | :58:07. | :58:11. | |
I had. Black people couldn't say they were raped if they were raped. | :58:11. | :58:19. | |
You never heard a rape, only the white lady got raped. But the black | :58:19. | :58:23. | |
woman - I was innocent but people didn't think I was innocent. No-one | :58:23. | :58:28. | |
knew I was leaving. I wanted to bring my children up different. The | :58:28. | :58:35. | |
north was the way out. I thought it would make a dig difference -- big | :58:35. | :58:41. | |
difference. She had never spoken so openly about her past and what | :58:41. | :58:44. | |
compelled her north. But as I learned more about her life I began | :58:44. | :58:49. | |
to see the deeper roots of the drug war for black American families. | :58:49. | :58:53. | |
Sadly what many of these families came to find is that they had not | :58:53. | :59:00. | |
really escaped Jim Crow at all. But found themselves in a new system of | :59:00. | :59:06. | |
racial control, a new Jim Crow. Racially discriminatory laws across | :59:06. | :59:09. | |
America ensured that poor people of colour, migrating from the south, | :59:09. | :59:15. | |
would be confined to certain parts of the city that we now think of as | :59:15. | :59:21. | |
ghettos. Very few people know this but if you look at how African- | :59:21. | :59:24. | |
American housing patterns were established in the '30s and 40s as | :59:24. | :59:29. | |
a result of the new deal, the FHA, a democratic New Deal Programme to | :59:29. | :59:33. | |
inspire home ownership did more to create ghettos than any other | :59:33. | :59:37. | |
federal programme before or since. Why? Because when they were | :59:37. | :59:39. | |
creating the culture of home ownership in America, they were | :59:39. | :59:43. | |
exclusionary to black people. They put them in the areas that maybe a | :59:43. | :59:47. | |
bit economicically depressed and subject to heavy rentorship. They | :59:47. | :59:53. | |
red lined those areas and they would not write FHA mortgages in | :59:53. | :59:57. | |
those areas. Once the areas were red lined that was designed for a | :59:57. | :00:06. | |
ghetto. In 1950, people were poor but had jobs. Industries had moved | :00:06. | :00:11. | |
out of the inner city, leaving behind concentrated populations of | :00:11. | :00:14. | |
poor people, vulnerable to drug trafficking and all the other | :00:14. | :00:19. | |
problems associated with joblessness. What happens when | :00:19. | :00:23. | |
groups are denied to the core economic engines in a society, they | :00:23. | :00:27. | |
create their own, out of pro hinted comins. That was true of the | :00:27. | :00:32. | |
Italians and Jews and everybody else who came to the cities a | :00:32. | :00:35. | |
generation before African-Americans arrived. In 1969 during that time, | :00:35. | :00:42. | |
I couldn't get a job.. When I came to work for your parents, I was | :00:42. | :00:46. | |
happy just to have this job. Do you remember the first time you saw me? | :00:46. | :00:53. | |
Yes. It was about three days old, your mum brought you home from the | :00:53. | :01:00. | |
hospital. You were a beautiful baby that I fell in love with. You | :01:00. | :01:05. | |
became my baby. I loved your family. I I guess I never dreamt you guys | :01:05. | :01:15. | |
:01:15. | :01:17. | ||
would ever leave new hefen. -- Newhaven. We moved to a comfortable | :01:17. | :01:23. | |
suburb of New York City. I didn't know how this impacted Nannie and | :01:24. | :01:29. | |
her family. Your mum said my husband will double your pay if you | :01:29. | :01:38. | |
can go with us. I was always working in New York, whilst my kids | :01:38. | :01:45. | |
were in Newhaven. My youngest son James, he started to smoke | :01:45. | :01:51. | |
marijuana at 14 and at 20 he started to really go into drugs. It | :01:51. | :01:55. | |
is still amazing how you spend your life providing, loving your kids | :01:55. | :02:01. | |
that you don't see the mental power that is going on in their life. | :02:01. | :02:06. | |
Then you look at white kids, they have their parents and they have a | :02:06. | :02:10. | |
house keeper that loves them. But yet still your kids are most of the | :02:10. | :02:20. | |
:02:20. | :02:28. | ||
time alone. What happened with James? He died with AIDS from using | :02:28. | :02:33. | |
needles. As Nannie and I returned to Newhaven together I saw my | :02:33. | :02:36. | |
birthplace with new eyes, processing so much I hadn't | :02:37. | :02:40. | |
understood about the intersection of James's life and my own. But | :02:40. | :02:45. | |
what else had I missed. Growing up in the wake of the civil rights | :02:45. | :02:49. | |
movement, I guess like many people I imagined things were going to get | :02:49. | :02:52. | |
better for black America but as it it turned out in many ways the | :02:53. | :03:02. | |
worst was yet to come. Growing up in Florida, I remember thinking I | :03:02. | :03:07. | |
never wanted to leave Florida. I used to tell my parents before we | :03:07. | :03:11. | |
would go out and do something illegal, I used to say God is on | :03:12. | :03:21. | |
our side because he knows we are poor and I so he understands what | :03:21. | :03:29. | |
we are doing. I actually believed that shit. Carl Hart was part of a | :03:29. | :03:32. | |
generation of black men who experienced first hand the most | :03:32. | :03:36. | |
dramatic escalation of the drug war in American history. Today a | :03:36. | :03:41. | |
Professor of psychology at New York's Columbia University his past | :03:41. | :03:45. | |
experience remains a driving force in his work. Growing up in the '70s | :03:45. | :03:48. | |
and '80s, many of my friends, family members got caught up in | :03:49. | :03:55. | |
drug use. I was always interested in drugs abuse. What I do today, I | :03:55. | :03:59. | |
give people drugs in the lab to study the effects of drugs like | :03:59. | :04:04. | |
meth am fete meet, marijuana. Karl's research is on the science | :04:04. | :04:07. | |
behind addiction, his own experience has shown him how often | :04:08. | :04:11. | |
drug laws are shaped less by scientific concerns than political | :04:11. | :04:17. | |
ones. In the '80s, I was concerned about the havoc that drugs were | :04:17. | :04:22. | |
wreak nothing our community. Or the havoc I thought drugs were reeking | :04:22. | :04:26. | |
in our community. That brings us to the major effort that I am | :04:26. | :04:30. | |
announcing this morning. In the long history of the drug war, no | :04:30. | :04:34. | |
single chapter would turn out to impact black America more deeply | :04:34. | :04:39. | |
than the eight years of the Reagan presidency. What will you do when | :04:39. | :04:45. | |
someone offers you drugs? Just say no. While Nancy Reagan's popular | :04:45. | :04:49. | |
slogan took what would seem a mother approach to drug prevention, | :04:49. | :04:59. | |
:04:59. | :05:00. | ||
her husband took a tougher approach. We intend to do what is necessary | :05:00. | :05:05. | |
to end the drug menace and eliminate this dark evil enemy | :05:05. | :05:15. | |
:05:15. | :05:18. | ||
When Reagan announced he was plan to go rev up the drug war, it was | :05:18. | :05:22. | |
political opportunity more than ever. At the time drug crime was | :05:22. | :05:26. | |
actually on the decline. Less than 2% of the American population even | :05:26. | :05:29. | |
identifies drugs as the nation's top priority. But then of course | :05:29. | :05:39. | |
they got lucky. Crack cocaine... Crack co kaib. Crack hit the | :05:39. | :05:44. | |
streets and suddenly there was hysteria about this brand new | :05:44. | :05:49. | |
demon-like form of cocaine. Today there is a new epidemic. Smokable | :05:49. | :05:55. | |
cocaine, otherwise known as crack. It is an uncontrolled fire. The | :05:55. | :05:58. | |
American people want their government to get tough and go on | :05:58. | :06:03. | |
the offensive and that is what we intend with more ferocity than ever | :06:03. | :06:11. | |
before. If smaller cities don't have a crack crisis now, they will | :06:11. | :06:14. | |
soon. They are just carrying on like it is their living room, like | :06:14. | :06:18. | |
this is their home, like they belong here. They don't belong here. | :06:18. | :06:24. | |
What we saw were images of black urbanites on TV smoking crack | :06:25. | :06:31. | |
cocaine over and over and over. And then using incredible stories were | :06:31. | :06:41. | |
:06:41. | :06:49. | ||
associated with crack cocaine. They If you go back to the '20s and 30s | :06:49. | :06:59. | |
this is what people were saying about marijuana. If you say that | :06:59. | :07:03. | |
now in our society, people would look at you as if you were crazy. | :07:03. | :07:06. | |
When you have a new drug introduced into society, you can say | :07:06. | :07:10. | |
incredible things about that drug and people will believe you. | :07:10. | :07:15. | |
society is now infested with drug abusers. There is a tremendous fear | :07:15. | :07:19. | |
of this epidemic that was going to overcome all of us, not only with | :07:19. | :07:23. | |
drug addiction, but with violence and terror that was going to come | :07:23. | :07:29. | |
out of this. Tremendous fear led to this view the criminal laws would | :07:29. | :07:39. | |
save us. The laws raced through Congress in record time, there were | :07:39. | :07:47. | |
no hearings held, no consultation with experts. This is something | :07:47. | :07:51. | |
that had to be dealt with, election year fever did take hold of some | :07:51. | :07:56. | |
people. With overwhelming support Reagan signed into law an | :07:56. | :07:59. | |
unprecedented array of mandatory minimum sentences for drug crimes, | :07:59. | :08:08. | |
but no drug would receive harsher penalties than crack The penalties | :08:08. | :08:15. | |
were outrageous. The acceptance of coke is widespread commonplace | :08:15. | :08:18. | |
among professionals. Whilst were using powder cocaine in board rooms. | :08:19. | :08:22. | |
Blacks were using crack cocaine in public housing and on the street. | :08:22. | :08:32. | |
What is the response? I want to know why I am I am being treated | :08:32. | :08:41. | |
like I murdered somebody. Many people, including judges, began to | :08:41. | :08:45. | |
question the disparity in sentences between crack and powder. That's | :08:45. | :08:51. | |
the major reason why I have agreed to be interviewed. In my view it it | :08:51. | :08:55. | |
is not fair to have 100-1 disparity in the difference between powder | :08:55. | :09:00. | |
cocaine and crack cocaine. Let me explain what that means. A crack | :09:00. | :09:05. | |
defendant with 5 grams of crack cocaine is treated the same as a | :09:05. | :09:10. | |
powder cocaine defendant with 100 times more weight, in other words | :09:10. | :09:14. | |
500 grams of powder cocaine. I don't think most people realise | :09:14. | :09:17. | |
this. What is the difference between powder cocaine and crack | :09:17. | :09:22. | |
cocaine? Do you know? All crack cocaine comes from powder cocaine. | :09:22. | :09:29. | |
The difference is you add baking soda, water and heat from an oven. | :09:29. | :09:37. | |
That is the only difference. I run a group called Familys Against | :09:37. | :09:40. | |
Madatory Minimums. I think what I didn't know was how hard it would | :09:40. | :09:45. | |
be to change the laws. Julie Stewart first learned about the | :09:45. | :09:52. | |
severity of mandatory minimums when a family member was picked up on | :09:52. | :09:58. | |
marijuana charges. I started meeting other families who kids | :09:58. | :10:08. | |
:10:08. | :10:08. | ||
were in for so much longer. In her fight, Julie took her cause to the | :10:08. | :10:13. | |
US sentencing commission where she found an unlikely ally. I was the | :10:13. | :10:19. | |
first federal judge in the nation to search as the first chair in the | :10:19. | :10:22. | |
sentencing commission. sentencing commission vote today | :10:22. | :10:29. | |
make crack and powder cocaine exactly the same. Is crack | :10:29. | :10:32. | |
dangerous, yes it is, but the commission looked at this on many | :10:32. | :10:38. | |
occasions and found that crack cocaine is00 to 1 was unjust. | :10:38. | :10:44. | |
can be no doubt that the sentences for crack... | :10:44. | :10:49. | |
51% of the crack is used by the white population. In Los Angeles | :10:49. | :10:54. | |
there has not been one white conviction. Not one. Despite the | :10:54. | :11:02. | |
evidence presented by judges and experts, Congress was unyield. | :11:02. | :11:07. | |
my view at least, the findings are very vulnerable. These people are | :11:07. | :11:11. | |
killing our kids. They are disrupting society. These people | :11:11. | :11:21. | |
:11:21. | :11:28. | ||
I don't think people understand how crucial this is, how serious this | :11:28. | :11:34. | |
is, what is going on. Look can at Maurice's case, he is facing a | :11:34. | :11:38. | |
double mandatory minimum from ten years to 20 years. Does he deserve | :11:38. | :11:42. | |
a a 20 year sentence, I don't think so. After years of concern from the | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
bench about unfair sentencing, the Supreme Court rule judges should be | :11:47. | :11:52. | |
given back a certain degree of discretion to determine what a fair | :11:52. | :11:56. | |
sentence would be. Judge Bennett did something historic. I am the | :11:56. | :12:02. | |
first judge to do a One to One sentencing ratio between crack and | :12:02. | :12:12. | |
:12:12. | :12:13. | ||
powder cocaine. He took it from 30 years to 18 years, but it didn't | :12:13. | :12:18. | |
help. In Maurice's case, the justice was Trumped by the | :12:18. | :12:23. | |
mandatory minimum. Judge Bennett's decision to use a One to One ratio | :12:23. | :12:32. | |
turns out to be symbolic. The money mum is ten years and then with me | :12:32. | :12:39. | |
having a prior drug felony, the minimum is 20 years, so I got a 20 | :12:39. | :12:43. | |
year sentence today. If I go round the country and see the people in | :12:43. | :12:48. | |
jail unbelievable sentences, how did this go wrong? Well, I don't | :12:48. | :12:52. | |
know it went wrong, it is just I guess the system worked. The system | :12:52. | :12:56. | |
worked the way Congress planned for it to work. They are not going to | :12:56. | :13:02. | |
come home and campaign on the fact that for more lenient sentences for | :13:03. | :13:08. | |
drug dealers. Just the opposite. I want tough sentences for drug | :13:08. | :13:14. | |
dealers. But whether Congress started out with race in mind or | :13:15. | :13:21. | |
not t turns out that minorities are targeted by these mandatory | :13:21. | :13:25. | |
minimums, 100 to one ratio more than others are and that's not good. | :13:25. | :13:30. | |
It is interesting because African- Americans do not use crack cocaine | :13:30. | :13:35. | |
any more than whites. Whites use it more. African-Americans Make up 13% | :13:35. | :13:39. | |
of the population and they are 13% of the crack users. The rest of the | :13:39. | :13:44. | |
users are white and brown, which is amazing, because 90% of the crack | :13:44. | :13:54. | |
:13:54. | :13:57. | ||
cocaine defendants in the federal I came back south for multiple | :13:57. | :14:03. | |
reasons. To attend some court proceedings. Of course I am here to | :14:04. | :14:09. | |
see my family because they are all here. Like so many people I met in | :14:09. | :14:13. | |
the world of the drug war, Carl's story turned out to be more complex | :14:13. | :14:19. | |
than I originally understand. After breaking ouft his past, Carl found | :14:19. | :14:29. | |
:14:29. | :14:35. | ||
himself drawn back into the world I found out Tobias was my son eight | :14:35. | :14:42. | |
years ago. I was 16 when I found out. He is now 26. Nine years later | :14:42. | :14:45. | |
I am still struggling with him because I am responsible for this | :14:45. | :14:50. | |
person being here. But yet I had no influence on how this person was | :14:50. | :14:56. | |
shaped. Right now, he has two charges, he has a cocaine charge. | :14:56. | :15:06. | |
:15:06. | :15:13. | ||
It's not encouraging. I ain't too good. You should make sure you get | :15:13. | :15:21. | |
a small gig, I don't care what it pays. I am just afraid that you go | :15:21. | :15:25. | |
before a judge and then they are going to say how are you getting | :15:25. | :15:35. | |
:15:35. | :15:35. | ||
your loot. I don't care. You can do whatever you want in life. If you | :15:35. | :15:39. | |
have this stuff hanging over your head, you are going to be shackled | :15:39. | :15:49. | |
:15:49. | :16:00. | ||
by the system. Please, man, do It's difficult because I know his | :16:00. | :16:07. | |
fate. It's the same shit we grew up with. It's cycles. Particularly in | :16:07. | :16:17. | |
:16:17. | :16:21. | ||
light of what I am trying to do There's a general belief that black | :16:21. | :16:25. | |
people are using drugs disproportionate to their numbers | :16:25. | :16:29. | |
in the population. I like to see evidence be used in | :16:29. | :16:35. | |
our shaping of public policy. All of this was completely missed in | :16:35. | :16:40. | |
the hysteria in the mid-80s and 90s about crack cocaine. After spending | :16:40. | :16:44. | |
so much career studying drugs and drug laws in the black community, | :16:44. | :16:48. | |
Carl's focus has turned to a new drug and new target for law | :16:48. | :16:52. | |
enforcement. There is a new drug epidemic in the United States, | :16:52. | :16:57. | |
methamphetamine, like crack, it is cheap, potent and leads addicts to | :16:57. | :17:01. | |
serious crimes. All across America, we have got people who are trying | :17:01. | :17:10. | |
to lure children into using meth. By the 1990s we were seeing a | :17:10. | :17:16. | |
similar phenomena as we saw with crack co kaib. -- cocaine. The | :17:16. | :17:22. | |
people associated with methamphetamine use are trailer | :17:22. | :17:30. | |
parks and gay folks, two despised groups. When we think about the | :17:30. | :17:36. | |
country's response to meth, meth users have been vilified and the | :17:36. | :17:39. | |
reason we have to recognise it is so we can be careful or more | :17:39. | :17:48. | |
critical than we were with crack cocaine. Iowa, Nebraska, Missouri, | :17:48. | :17:58. | |
:17:58. | :18:00. | ||
the heart land of the methamphetamine use. | :18:00. | :18:06. | |
For a long time crack cocaine was the drug populating prisons. Meth | :18:06. | :18:10. | |
has rapidly caught up with it and probably overtaken it. Today the | :18:10. | :18:15. | |
average person I sentence at a drug case is a non-violent, blue collar | :18:15. | :18:20. | |
worker who lost their job and then turned to manufacturing | :18:20. | :18:23. | |
methamphetamine to support their habit and we treat them like they | :18:23. | :18:33. | |
:18:33. | :18:34. | ||
With their rates of incarceration rising, white inmates have start | :18:34. | :18:38. | |
today receive the kind of harsh sentences that blacks have faced | :18:38. | :18:48. | |
:18:48. | :19:04. | ||
My name is Kevin Ott, I am in here for trafficking met amphetamine. I | :19:04. | :19:10. | |
start my 14th year in a couple of months and I will be here until I | :19:10. | :19:20. | |
:19:20. | :19:43. | ||
die. I have life without parole for Pnchts Ifucked up, but I don't | :19:43. | :19:49. | |
think I should die for it. I have life without parole. I will stay in | :19:49. | :19:53. | |
prison until I die. It is a slow death sentence. I have to wait | :19:53. | :19:59. | |
until I die. The reason I started with meth was because I got laid | :19:59. | :20:03. | |
off. Somebody said, here, try to sell some of this and get you a | :20:03. | :20:07. | |
little extra money. Then I started using it. Then I had to sell it to | :20:07. | :20:12. | |
pay for it. How much is three ounces? It would fit in a small | :20:12. | :20:17. | |
envelope. If you have been busted for two prior drug charges, smoking | :20:17. | :20:21. | |
pot or having pot or meth, whatever it is and then you get a | :20:21. | :20:26. | |
trafficking charge, they give you life without parole, it's mandatory, | :20:26. | :20:34. | |
life without parole. Kevin has always been a good son. His father | :20:34. | :20:38. | |
was drafted and was sent to Vietnam. He looks very much like a boy, he | :20:38. | :20:44. | |
was a boy. He went to Vietnam and came home a very damaged boy. He | :20:44. | :20:49. | |
saw people that were maimed, injured, shot and killed and I | :20:49. | :20:54. | |
think he became addicted to heroin to help ease his personal pain. | :20:54. | :20:59. | |
After losing Kevin's dad, Kevin stepped up and felt like he was the | :20:59. | :21:05. | |
man of the household. When I first came in, there was only a few of us, | :21:05. | :21:10. | |
five or six at the most. A couple of years ago I heard that there | :21:10. | :21:15. | |
were 92 people in the state of Oklahoma that had life without | :21:15. | :21:22. | |
parole for drugs and it keeps growing. I fought it and it's over | :21:22. | :21:26. | |
with. It's been over with probably nine years. I took it all the way | :21:26. | :21:31. | |
to the Supreme Court and they wouldn't hear it. So here I am, | :21:32. | :21:41. | |
:21:42. | :21:58. | ||
waiting for the law to change or The time I have been locked up, my | :21:58. | :22:04. | |
mother has lost two of her brothers, one of her brothers daughters | :22:04. | :22:13. | |
directly relate today drugs. Then my sister, my younger sister was | :22:13. | :22:19. | |
coming to visit me in prison and died in a car wreck. It's been | :22:19. | :22:29. | |
:22:29. | :22:29. | ||
pretty bad for my mom. She's pretty strong. Today people have to | :22:29. | :22:33. | |
understand the drug war is actually a war on all Americans and I think | :22:33. | :22:38. | |
people keep saying that is about them, no, it is about you. No-one | :22:38. | :22:43. | |
imagines when they saw somebody African-Americans getting locked up, | :22:43. | :22:47. | |
that it would apply beyond the black community, but it does. | :22:47. | :22:51. | |
Unemployment at 9%, America is struggling through the worst | :22:51. | :22:57. | |
recession since... Thousands of people, job job ps and | :22:57. | :23:02. | |
hopeless look for a way out. Before I got into drugs, I looked down on | :23:03. | :23:12. | |
:23:13. | :23:22. | ||
A funny thing happened on the way to the 21 century. We shrugged off | :23:22. | :23:28. | |
so much of our manufacturing base. For the the types of jobs you could | :23:28. | :23:32. | |
raise a family and be a meaningful citizen. We got rid of so much of | :23:32. | :23:41. | |
that, we marginalised a lot of white people. Lo and behold, white | :23:41. | :23:46. | |
people when they are denied meaning, denied meaningful work, they become | :23:46. | :23:49. | |
drug addicts too and they become involved in the meth trade and | :23:49. | :23:55. | |
start turning themselves over to the underground economies. | :23:55. | :23:58. | |
Capitalism is fairly colour blind in the end. Our economic engine, | :23:58. | :24:02. | |
when it doesn't need somebody, it doesn't need somebody s it doesn't | :24:02. | :24:07. | |
give a damn who you are. White people found that out a bit later | :24:07. | :24:16. | |
After hearing so much about the failure of the drug war and the | :24:16. | :24:19. | |
harm it does, I wanted to understand what drives it. Far from | :24:20. | :24:24. | |
the frontlines of the war I discovered a vast and less visible | :24:24. | :24:28. | |
world of people who play a part. This chair in comparison to other | :24:28. | :24:33. | |
types of restraint chairs is the most humane. The person in the | :24:33. | :24:43. | |
:24:43. | :24:45. | ||
chair can breathe easily and it is The war on drugs has to be a war at | :24:45. | :24:50. | |
every level. It has to be a war on the streets of the cities. It has | :24:50. | :24:56. | |
to be a war at the state level and has to be a war at the federal | :24:56. | :25:01. | |
level. Before in the prisons I guess the only choice was you could | :25:01. | :25:08. | |
get a Torah or a Bible. Things have changed now. All sorts of people | :25:08. | :25:11. | |
get a vested interest, the financial financial interest in | :25:11. | :25:17. | |
keeping the system going. It is a growing market, there are a lot of | :25:17. | :25:23. | |
prisoners in the United States. That's what I mean by growing. Now | :25:23. | :25:29. | |
you got me feeling awkward because of the camera. Put it down. We are | :25:29. | :25:33. | |
the largest in the world as far as private prisons and jails. We are | :25:33. | :25:37. | |
profitable, we are highly rated in the stock market. It homes your | :25:38. | :25:41. | |
ability to do it less expensively. Because we have to earn profit. | :25:41. | :25:46. | |
There is a whole range of corporations Taser gun | :25:46. | :25:56. | |
:25:56. | :25:57. | ||
manufacturers, private health care proviteders, than depend on prisons | :25:57. | :26:03. | |
as their primary employer. these people are not try to go do | :26:03. | :26:07. | |
anything wrong, they are trying to make society better, but their | :26:07. | :26:12. | |
actions become part of the thrust that makes bad parts of the drug | :26:12. | :26:17. | |
war more feasible. The question we have to ask is, why given that it | :26:17. | :26:22. | |
seems to be a failure, why is it persisting. I am beginning to think, | :26:22. | :26:28. | |
maybe it is a success. What if it is a success by keeping police | :26:28. | :26:34. | |
forces busy. What if it is a success keeping legal establishing | :26:34. | :26:38. | |
justified. Maybe it is a success on different terms than the publicly | :26:38. | :26:41. | |
stated ones. Perhaps not surprisingly, it was people on the | :26:41. | :26:44. | |
inside who turned out to be most aware of the dangerous pressures | :26:44. | :26:48. | |
that outside forces exert on the system. | :26:48. | :26:53. | |
My job is to keep the people inside who are supposed to be inside. I am | :26:53. | :26:56. | |
going to do my job. As I have come along in corrections over the last | :26:56. | :27:02. | |
20 years, I have watched it grow into this thing, it is almost a | :27:02. | :27:07. | |
self-fulfilling prophecy, you build a bed, they fill the bed. It grows | :27:07. | :27:10. | |
and grows and grows of its own accord. You almost can't stop it. | :27:10. | :27:16. | |
You can't afford to stop it. So now you start talking about we could | :27:16. | :27:24. | |
cut corners and reduce, if we reduce by closing that facility. | :27:24. | :27:28. | |
You can't do that, my community will dry up and blow away. The | :27:28. | :27:31. | |
private prisons, they actually go to a town and say if you use your | :27:31. | :27:35. | |
tax money to buy the land and build the facility, we will rent it for | :27:35. | :27:39. | |
you and you will get rich and we will all be rich together. That | :27:39. | :27:44. | |
only works if there are prisoners in the bed. Now you start to find | :27:44. | :27:50. | |
people who fit the criteria. Now it is going to grow faster. You can't | :27:50. | :27:55. | |
let that town fail. So you can't change the way you think about | :27:55. | :27:58. | |
locking people up. You need a new enemy? It is the same enemy, you | :27:59. | :28:08. | |
just need more of them. Though my journey had begun with a simple | :28:08. | :28:15. | |
question, it was forcing me to confront unsettling realities | :28:15. | :28:23. | |
facing the country. Instead of saying let's get rid of these drug | :28:23. | :28:27. | |
addicts and dealers and once we throw away the key on them, we will | :28:27. | :28:31. | |
solve the problem, why not say this, all these Americans that we don't | :28:31. | :28:35. | |
need any more, the factories are closed we don't need them, the | :28:35. | :28:41. | |
textile mills are gone, GM is closing plants, we don't need these | :28:41. | :28:45. | |
people, let's just get rid of the bottom 15% of the country, lock | :28:45. | :28:50. | |
them up. Let's see if we can make money money off off locking them up. | :28:50. | :28:56. | |
Even though it is going to destroy families, where these people are | :28:56. | :28:59. | |
probably integral to the lives 6 other Americans, let's get rid of | :28:59. | :29:03. | |
them. Why not just say kill the poor, if we kill the poor we are | :29:03. | :29:13. | |
:29:13. | :29:14. | ||
going to be better off. That is what the drug war has become. Of | :29:14. | :29:17. | |
father was a war crimes investigator in Europe. We often | :29:17. | :29:25. | |
talked about his experiences. I was reading the work of someone who | :29:25. | :29:29. | |
wrol about the destruction of European Jews in the Holocaust. | :29:29. | :29:35. | |
have long known that the process of destruction was an undertaking step | :29:36. | :29:41. | |
by step. I realised there was a chain of destruction, what he was | :29:42. | :29:47. | |
talking about could be expressed by links in a chain. Round-the-world | :29:47. | :29:51. | |
in more than one society, people do the same things again and again, | :29:51. | :29:58. | |
decade after decade. Century after century. Now this chain of | :29:58. | :30:02. | |
destruction begins with the phase we can cull identification, in | :30:02. | :30:05. | |
which a group of people is identified as a cause for problems | :30:06. | :30:10. | |
of society. People start to perceive their fellow citizens as | :30:10. | :30:15. | |
bad or evil. They used to be worthwhile people but for some | :30:15. | :30:18. | |
reason now their lives are worthless. The second link in the | :30:18. | :30:22. | |
chain of destruction is ostracism by which we learn how to hate these | :30:22. | :30:26. | |
people, how to take their jobs away, how to make it harder for them to | :30:26. | :30:30. | |
survive. People lose their place to live. Often forced into ghettos | :30:30. | :30:35. | |
where they are physically isolated, separate from the rest of society. | :30:35. | :30:41. | |
The third link is confiscation. People lose their rights. The laws | :30:41. | :30:44. | |
themselves change so it's made easier for people to be on the | :30:44. | :30:49. | |
street, patted down and searched and for their property to be | :30:49. | :30:53. | |
confiscated. Once you start taking people's property away, you can | :30:53. | :30:57. | |
take the people away. The fourth link is concentration. Concentrate | :30:57. | :31:01. | |
them into facilities such as prisons, camps, people lose their | :31:01. | :31:05. | |
rights, they can't vote any more, can't have children any more. They | :31:05. | :31:11. | |
are exploited often. Final link in the chain of destrix is | :31:12. | :31:18. | |
annihilation. This might be indirect with medical -- | :31:18. | :31:22. | |
withholding medical care. Or might be direct where death is inflicted, | :31:22. | :31:26. | |
where people are deliberately killed. These steps tend to happen | :31:26. | :31:35. | |
of their own momentum. A lot of people would be disturbed and | :31:35. | :31:39. | |
outraged by the thought of any part of this process could be going on | :31:39. | :31:45. | |
in America. But it wasn't until I began studying the drug war that I | :31:45. | :31:48. | |
realised some of these same steps were happening. For instance, | :31:48. | :31:53. | |
identification. All of us agree the greatest domestic threat facing our | :31:53. | :31:57. | |
nation today is drugs. The way to take a problem and make it a huge | :31:57. | :32:02. | |
problem is first you ask the wrong question and then you feed us the | :32:02. | :32:06. | |
wrong answer. Who is responsibility? Let me tell you | :32:06. | :32:11. | |
straight out. Everyone who uses drugs S everyone who sells trution. | :32:11. | :32:16. | |
And everyone who looks the other way. You identify people, their | :32:16. | :32:21. | |
characteristics, you make them other, using fear mongering as if | :32:21. | :32:26. | |
they are the cause of our problems. These people are killing our kids. | :32:26. | :32:31. | |
These people are wrecking our society. Secondly ostracism. | :32:31. | :32:37. | |
Society learns to hate drug users. If you are a casual drug user, you | :32:37. | :32:43. | |
are an accomplice to murder. apply special laws to them. These | :32:44. | :32:48. | |
people who have been identified as drug users become criminals. If you | :32:48. | :32:52. | |
break the law you no longer have a home in public housing. | :32:52. | :32:57. | |
ultimate effect is isolation, being cut off from mainstream society. | :32:57. | :33:00. | |
started out, we identify them, figure out who they are, start | :33:00. | :33:06. | |
making laws laws to prevent them from being around our children. | :33:06. | :33:10. | |
Where do they go. The area of the least opposition, the modern | :33:10. | :33:14. | |
American ghetto. We manage to isolate the poor economically. | :33:14. | :33:18. | |
force them out of the place where they can live and work be | :33:18. | :33:24. | |
successful and now you make them criminals. Once the economics has | :33:24. | :33:27. | |
done its business, then you can have different levels of policing, | :33:27. | :33:37. | |
:33:37. | :33:41. | ||
Confiscation, any property they find on you can be subjected to | :33:41. | :33:51. | |
:33:51. | :34:06. | ||
In the drug war, there is more that is being confiscated. It is being | :34:06. | :34:14. | |
taken from them, all hope in the future. With the drug war we have | :34:14. | :34:18. | |
gone as far as the concentration phase. My government says we are | :34:18. | :34:22. | |
fighting a heroic war against drugs and the war against people who use | :34:22. | :34:26. | |
drugs. Francsly a lot of them -- frankly a lot of them will have to | :34:26. | :34:29. | |
be locked up. Extraordinary numbers of people are in prison because of | :34:29. | :34:33. | |
drugs, yet it is not a place to get drug treatment. They come out and | :34:33. | :34:42. | |
then we are surprised we have the highest re-offending rates. This | :34:42. | :34:47. | |
concentration of people, who it is in inner city ghettos or prisons, | :34:47. | :34:51. | |
creates a culture of hopelessness that is incredibly corrosive. When | :34:51. | :34:55. | |
they don't have any prospects, people turn to drugs. Then we will | :34:55. | :35:01. | |
pursue them and be able to to hire a bunch of prison guards and parole | :35:01. | :35:04. | |
officers and drug treatment people. In the short-term some people have | :35:04. | :35:11. | |
jobs. Annihilation, that is not happening with the drug war in this | :35:11. | :35:16. | |
country. But there are subtle but real ways that don't involve | :35:17. | :35:23. | |
indiscriminate mass killings, such as preventing births. Violence in | :35:23. | :35:33. | |
:35:33. | :35:41. | ||
prisons. People swept up in drug It is important to remember or | :35:41. | :35:44. | |
realise that it isn't the war on drug users is the same that what | :35:44. | :35:48. | |
happened in other societies, but they both are wars on ordinary | :35:48. | :35:53. | |
people, people just like us. have to have an enemy for | :35:53. | :35:58. | |
everything. The way Germany in the '30s rebuilt their infrastructure, | :35:58. | :36:02. | |
rebuilt their industries and rebuilt their pride, their | :36:02. | :36:06. | |
nationalism was by saying that these people, this group of people | :36:06. | :36:16. | |
is the cause of all of our woe, if we hate them, we will be better off. | :36:16. | :36:20. | |
We do say those people are bad for us and if we hate them, our lives | :36:20. | :36:30. | |
:36:30. | :36:40. | ||
will be better. Everybody has to The drug war is a hos kaus in slow | :36:40. | :36:46. | |
motion. It is not somebody organising racial superiority or | :36:46. | :36:50. | |
arguing for the destruction of a given race or religion. That | :36:50. | :36:54. | |
doesn't exist. Let's be honest about what was unique to the | :36:55. | :36:59. | |
Holocaust. But there is an incredible destruction of human | :36:59. | :37:04. | |
life that is class-based, not race- based but class-based that is going | :37:04. | :37:14. | |
:37:14. | :37:21. | ||
on under the guise of a war against I know they want people to learn a | :37:21. | :37:26. | |
lesson, but to be honest, all this time is not really helping anybody. | :37:26. | :37:32. | |
For instance my daughter. It is making her grow up like merks the | :37:32. | :37:37. | |
cycle is -- me, the cycle is just continuing. This is a letter | :37:37. | :37:44. | |
written by your aunt. I just wanted you to know a bit about Maurice. | :37:44. | :37:48. | |
When he was six months old his father was murdered. That was a sad | :37:48. | :37:54. | |
day. My sister then began using drugs lns | :37:54. | :37:58. | |
Of all the years I spent in narcotics, I zbnt out there every | :37:59. | :38:04. | |
day and say let's inflict harm on the community. Unintended | :38:04. | :38:09. | |
consequence was that we probably did inflict harm. Two young kids | :38:10. | :38:18. | |
with the mother. Kevin has been locked up 13 years. | :38:18. | :38:23. | |
So now we write letters and we call and we e-mail and just with a | :38:24. | :38:28. | |
prayer that somebody will hear us. Because our day will come and I | :38:28. | :38:35. | |
believe it will come. I don't think my son is going to die in prison. | :38:35. | :38:43. | |
Walking away and leaving him is the hardest thing that I do. I don't | :38:43. | :38:46. | |
know what the solution is, but I know the solution can't be more of | :38:46. | :38:52. | |
what's got us to this spot. It can't be more of the same. | :38:52. | :38:56. | |
America's drug problem, a result of hundreds of years of history, | :38:56. | :39:00. | |
economic policy, social policy and misunderstanding. Let's not make | :39:00. | :39:04. | |
the most visible manifestation of it, people being out on the street | :39:04. | :39:08. | |
and using the problem. It is not the problem, it is the | :39:08. | :39:18. | |
:39:18. | :39:24. | ||
manifestation of the problem, it is You have to deal with the whole | :39:24. | :39:29. | |
picture. After 40 years of incalculable | :39:29. | :39:32. | |
human cost, it is hard to imagine how something so deeply rooted in | :39:32. | :39:37. | |
American life can possibly be changed. We find ourselves as a | :39:37. | :39:45. | |
nation in the midst of a profound have largely been ignoring at our | :39:45. | :39:47. | |
peril. At many levels across the country there are people trying to | :39:47. | :39:51. | |
change things. After 30 years all my colleagues who are afraid for | :39:51. | :39:54. | |
the politics, we have to go a different way. You have never had | :39:54. | :39:59. | |
so many people on the same side of this issue, we fought a war and | :39:59. | :40:06. | |
have been unsuccessful. How do we prevent people from becoming drug | :40:06. | :40:09. | |
addicts. Too many people in jail that don't need to be there. There | :40:09. | :40:13. | |
is a lot that is not working. recent months, under increasing | :40:13. | :40:16. | |
public pressure, the first signs have emerged that the drug war | :40:16. | :40:20. | |
after decades of failure and unsustainable cost may be changing. | :40:20. | :40:24. | |
Congress took action today to fix what many have called a very unfair | :40:24. | :40:29. | |
gap in federal sentencing rules for crack cocaine as opposed to powder | :40:29. | :40:34. | |
cocaine. President Obama signed a law at the White House today | :40:34. | :40:44. | |
:40:44. | :40:44. | ||
cutting the aish yo to 18--- ratio to 18-1. Despite a few first steps, | :40:44. | :40:47. | |
those experienced with criminal justice know it will take more than | :40:47. | :40:53. | |
experts, activists and a handful of law makers to undo the damage | :40:53. | :40:57. | |
decades of drug laws have caused. The political infrastructure is so | :40:57. | :41:02. | |
wedded to the status quo, they are so consumed with the next election, | :41:02. | :41:05. | |
there will never emerge a shred of leadership that will change the | :41:05. | :41:15. | |
situation. It is up to us. longer can drug laws serve as a | :41:15. | :41:17. | |
stimulus package for prison communities on the back of poor | :41:17. | :41:23. | |
people. We don't need to wait until we get consensus. We need to do | :41:23. | :41:28. | |
what is like. If there are people who are sentencing experts that are | :41:28. | :41:32. | |
supposed to tell Congress and the public what the right thing to do | :41:32. | :41:37. | |
is, I just urge you to do it. believe it is in the interest of | :41:37. | :41:43. | |
every American that we thoroughly examine our entire criminal justice | :41:43. | :41:49. | |
system. You need to care about the person down the the block. If you | :41:49. | :41:57. | |
let their rights be compromised, your rights are compromised. | :41:57. | :42:01. | |
anything ever going to be done about this. It's going to have to | :42:02. | :42:06. | |
come from the people out there. We can't do it from in here. Do you | :42:06. | :42:11. | |
know what it is like to go home at night knowing that did you a | :42:11. | :42:21. | |
:42:21. | :42:32. | ||
personal injustice. I did an Back in 2008 when I began filming, | :42:32. | :42:39. | |
despite the excitement of the election of Barack Obama, the | :42:39. | :42:43. | |
thoughts of Nannie Jeter stayed with me. I feel I cheated myself | :42:43. | :42:48. | |
out of what I could have accomplished. I never knew I wanted | :42:48. | :42:52. | |
to be in politics, to be a voice for someone to say what was wrong, | :42:52. | :43:00. | |
whether it changed or not, but to make known it was wrong. I have | :43:00. | :43:06. | |
learnt so much and I tried to tell it to other people. But it's like | :43:06. | :43:15. | |
people are going down the same road you went down before they learn. | :43:15. | :43:19. | |
You make mistakes through life. Mistakes are always there. You make | :43:19. | :43:26. | |
a lot of mistakes with your life. But when you somehow blow your kids | :43:26. | :43:31. |