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My family came to America fleeing persecution in Europe. For my mum's

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parents it was the Pogroms of Russia in which thousands of Jews

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died. As children my brothers and I were

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taught we were the lucky ones who meat it out. But with that luck

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came a responsibility. Never again didn't just mean that people like

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us shouldn't suffer. It meant Be seated, please, ladies and

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gentlemen. I would like to summarise for you the meeting that

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I have just had with bipartisan leaders. America's public enemy

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number one in the United States is Keep in mind that school is going

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to let these students out in 15 Sure we've got problems over this

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nation but never forget, there's nothing wrong with America today

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that a good election won't cure. That is why I believe the tide of

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battle has concerned and we are beginning to win the crusade for a

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drug-free America. What shame that we American people could act and be

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All of us must overcome the crippling legacy of bigotry and

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Democracy, liberty, opportunity and My name is Nannie Jeter. I was born

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in Crewe Virginia, a very small town. Coming north, I think I would

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prove I was going to conquer everything that needed to be

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conquered. Nannie Jeter was like a second mother to me. Though she

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started out working for my family, she was never a nanny, Nannie is

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The night is a celebration night. Our families were close and her

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children and grandchildren were my play mates growing up. As we got

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older, I saw many struggling with poverty, joblessness, crime and

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worse. When I asked her what she thought might have gone wrong, her

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answer was simple. I think drugs. Drugs is the monster. The killing,

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the steling, people being destroyed, it's devastating. What happened to

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my son with drugs, I would love to change that. Drugs in America,

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pollsters have identified that as the number one issue in this

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country. They are taking drugs in growing numbers. A battle to

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control the drug markets is deadly. To understand what drugs had done

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to Nannie Jeter's family and others, I wanted to get out on the road to

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talk to people. I know first hand the devastation we as a family have

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had to endure because of the drugs. Putting it before my kids, putting

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it before my mum, sister. I had two kids and I lost them to the streets

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because of my own problems. Time and again I learned how one

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person's struggle had grown into a crisis for their family and the

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community. How many people here had any kind of drug involvement?

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in here for selling drugs. I have a 30-year sentence. I killed a guy in

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1984. I was doped and out of my head. As I began to look around,

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the very real problems associated with drug abuse began to seem just

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one part of an even larger problem facing the country. It's true that

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drugs have destroyed lives, that heroin and cocaine, for example, do

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nothing to engender individual dignity but while cover the drug

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war as a journalist I came to understand the war against them has.

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The war against drugs is heating up. Somebody said we are going to fight

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a war against lis sit drugs because drugs are bad. There's no argument

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there. But think about where we are 30 years later. If you look at all

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the money spent on drug enforcement, prisons, probation officers, judges,

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narcotics agents, and everything else that has expanded due to the

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war on drugs t gratifies us and makes us feel we are tough on crime.

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But to what end. We are the jailingest country on the planet,

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beyond Russia or China. Nobody jails their population at the rate

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we do. Yet drugs are purer than ever before, they are more

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available, younger and younger kids willing to sell them. It's

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 53 seconds

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draconian and it doesn't work and I am not a big Superdrug dealer. I

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do what I have to do, I know how to survive, I dib and dab if I have to.

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It is not hard to tell these are the junkies, right. I think the

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economy drives off drug money. You have judges getting high, too. Cops

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sniffing coke. The boys are behind us. When I think about people

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living in inner city neighbourhoods, think about the principle of a

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quality of life chances. You should not be able to enter a hospital

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ward in an inner City Hospital of newborn babies and predict with

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near certainty on the basis of their class, background and race,

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where these kids, where these healthy newborn babies are going to

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end up in life. The dope lot, that is what this is, 77 Cromwell Towers.

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This is where I'm from. For now. Every war starts with propaganda.

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With the drug war our definition of what a drug user or drug seller is.

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Became almost a war time cartoon of The truth is drugs aren't yours,

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you are just a minuteion, somebody without any real authority, selling

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somebody else's dope. It is like fearing the guy at the dry through

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win der at bur -- window at Burger King. Sometimes cops view you as

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you live over here but they don't view you like them like twas your

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I I wouldn't want to work anywhere else. I feel the need to be here as

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a minority superviser. Predominantly, a minority

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neighbourhood. What we deal with here is a lot of lower level

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narcotic activity. We do mostly I will start making my way up there.

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Sometimes I think you can trace any Magic man, what is up? You been

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drinking right? No. Sober. How long has it been? Two months now. Good

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for you. You have a good one brother. Magic man, he's been

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around forever. We like to look at the war on drugs as good guys and

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bad guys and on the ground it is Drugs are never going to be gone. I

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get that. To say you are going to be drug-free completely, (Laughs)

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In drug work you never got that satisfaction, because you don't get

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rid of drugs. You have small victories here and there, but if

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you look at the big picture, are we getting anywhere, you could be

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Anybody else in the store? No. going to get you the search warrant.

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You can smell it in here. You want a hair cut? He's got cocaine

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If you talk to people in law enforcement, they believe that the

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community is completely corrupt. They believe everybody's living off

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drug money, that there is no moral centre. They see communities that

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blame everybody but themselves for what's going on. And then you talk

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to those communities and they genuinely believe that law

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enforcement is using drug laws to destroy the community. Over time, I

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have discovered that everybody involved hates what's going on.

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is interesting with this war on drugs, how little the American

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people know. I never thought about it before. As I started to ask

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around, I found if people knew anything about the war on drugs,

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they thought I was talking about something in a foreign country.

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6500 people died in drug-related incidents in Mexico last last year.

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The biggest drug industry in the world, isn't in Mexico, not in

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Colombia, or Afghanistan, it is in the United States. We in the United

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States perhaps, our dirty little secret between 10 and 16 billion

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dollars are spent by Americans to pay for these illegal drugs,

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creating a demand. The thing about the war on drugs is, it tries to to

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deal with the health problem as if it was a legal problem. When people

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are distressed they want to smooth their distress. So the real sque

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not why the addiction, but why the pain. One of the realities, most

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people get interested in this country for drugs are selling drugs

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to support their own habit. If you stand in a court, you are watching

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poor uneducated people be fed into a machine, like meat to make

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sausage, it's bang, bang, bang, My mum used to tell me I was going

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to die before I turned 18. When I was 14-years-old, that is when I

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started getting into fights and stuff like that. Now, I'm 28-years-

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old, sentenced for crack cocaine. am the discricket court -- District

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Court Judge. I have sent over 2600 people to federal prison.

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I grew up around gang members and drug dealers. They were my role

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models. Coming here today, Maurice's best chance is a sentence

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of 20 years. Drug laws often carry what are called mandatory minimum

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sentences below witch a judge cannot sentence a defendant.

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have a guy like Maurice, who grows up in a bad family situation with

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heartbreaking details of how he got where he is today, but even if the

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judge wanted to give him a sentence below 20 years, he can't. My mother

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was addicted to drugs. I don't remember my father at all. He got

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killed when I was three-years-old. There was a death around me, I seen

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a lot of people die, a lot of friends are dead. It could have

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We are here in the Bible belt, law and order Oklahoma, the prison is

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the largest employer in the county. Employees live all around here. If

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you take out a prison, the towns would dry up. I don't know there is

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a job I could do better in the world. They should have written

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prison guard on my head when I was born. The job was built for me.

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incarcerate women at the highest per capita rate. We have 1500

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inmates, majority of our drug- related crimes. I am here on a 12-

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year drug trafficking sentence. am 34-years-old, I have been here

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since I was 23. I am doing a life sentence for second degree murder.

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I killed a guy in a bad drug deal. I have sold tonnes of dope. We have

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a nice secure facility, I can keep anyone you want to keep. The

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facility is as secure as it can get. Turn around spread your butt,

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spread it with your hands. As it turns out drug laws have

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become so harsh, even the the non- violent can be locked up with

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sentences once reserved for violent crimes. We need to lock up people

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we are afraid you of, but not the I am a law and order guy, I am a

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firm believer, no free rides. Here you recognise that your chances to

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manipulate the system are done. That door slams behind you and you

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have absolutely no ability to control what goes on on the other

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side of that door. You can't open the door. This is where most people,

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if they are a newcomer and first time offender, they really figure

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out this is prison. This is what the next five, ten, 15, 20, 30

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years of your life looks like, this While following the steps that so

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many Americans take through the world of the drug war I couldn't

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help but notice at every stage black Americans were

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disproportionately represented. every war you have an enemy. When

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you think about the impact on poor people of colour. We haven't been

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willing to look in the mirror and ask ourselves what is going on.

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it turns out nearly everyone I talked to knew about the impact of

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the drug war on black America. Disproportionate number of black

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people are prosecuted. While people could tell me all about their first

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hand experience of this, very few had any idea where it came from.

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Here is America as you and I like to think of it, the land of the

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free and the home of the brave. But from every part of the nation come

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newspaper headlines telling us of an enemy, America's secret enemy

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The drug war began as a war on dangerous narcotics. You can trace

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modern drugs enforcement back to the early 50s. When you start today

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see the rise of the urban narcotics squads. Government agencies charged

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with the enforcement of narcotics laws have been able until recently

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to decrease steadily the number of addicts in the US. It was plausible

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as a policy because the use of the dangerous narcotics was a counter-

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culture. It was the jazz man's vice, it was in the back alleys. There

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was no mass marketing, no drive up drug corners. It was a very small

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percentage of the American population that was engaged in the

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use of heroin or cocaine. In the 1950s as drug use was was growing,

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law enforcement became focused on There's no question there was a

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passion with which the early narcotics enforcement culture

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pursued black America, even though the addict population was

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distinctly bye racial. In the 06s drug use grew widespread in America.

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By the late 06s most urban areas had a mass market for drugs. By the

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'80s you were looking at McDonald's. At that point you can't claim you

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are try to go isolate a counter cultural phenomenon. You are

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fighting a war against a whole In October 2009 I joined Nannie

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Jeter at the funeral of a family member I knew. Over the years drug

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had dep lie affected her life and the funeral brought back terrible

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memories for her. My son James died in 89, or 87, I can't quite

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remember. Before he died he said mummy, I'm tired of tI cannot live

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this life. It doesn't matter what I do, I just just want to die. All I

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know my son used a needle. Though I had known about James's death at

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the time, I didn't know the extechbt his addiction or how

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widely the war on drugs had affected the family. I began to

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realise the full extent of T didn't realise my father was a

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heroin addict. I got the news in jail. What were you in jail for?

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Drugs. Drugs have been going on for so long, it's tough. Again and

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again I heard how drug drug laws had done more to punish individuals

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than to prevent a serious effort to prevent prevent drug abuse. What

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was it doing to other families. There is a structural problem in

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the country that we keep ignoring. We have two million people in our

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jails and prisons and a million are African-American, most males. That

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is a pattern that has overwhelmed the African-American community

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because we have a generation of kids that have the assumption that

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they are destined to be in the criminal justice system. What

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people need to see is the next generation of children aren't going

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to be like I was or like my parents were or like my grandparents were,

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a generation better than those who At the precinct they told me my

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charge charge was a conspiracy 24-year-old Anthony Johnson of New

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York was arrested along with two Right now you have pled guilty to a

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charge which requires a five-year mandatory minimum. I can't get less

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than five years, that seems harsh when you think about the fact he is

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not violent at all. It is critical to present Anthony as more than a

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drug dealer. John is one of the best criminal defence lawyers in

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Vermont. I needed help with this kid. Though Anthony Johnson was

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arrested in Vermont he is originally from the very same New

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York housing project when I first met Shaniqua. You know Anthony.

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He's 24-years-old, he is looking at five to 40 years of jail. By the

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time he gets out he won't have a life. Following Anthony's legal

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team as they investigated the steps lead to go his arrest, I learned

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more about where he came from. More clearly than before I could see how

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the vicious cycle of the drug war spans generations. I wish my father

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was there for me. I I was outside the front of the building and I

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noticed him doing a little hand to hand, and and then I figured he was

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a drug dealer. I seen him a couple of times doing it. Did sku him

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about it? No, I never asked him. Why? Because I don't ask those

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questions, I knew. I really didn't When I heard of it, he's selling

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drugs, to be honest with you, to be totally honest with you, it didn't

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surprise me. Where we lived, where he came out of. The drug dealers

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are looked at as leaders of the community. If your mom can't pay

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the rent, they pay the rent F you need food, they would give money to

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the household for food. Everybody wanted new converse and he would

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get them for you. The drug dealer would come from up the block, you

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pick out a pair, you pick out a pair. We came back on the block, we

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all carrying sneaker boxes. Everybody wanted to know. We would

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tell them where we got them from. Every time he came on the block,

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you were under him. Ice-cream van came, he bought us ice-cream and he

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didn't have to pay. He would tell the man, get them an ice-cream and

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we all got ice-cream. Honestly, I loved him. I loved him because when

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they came around, it was Christmas. As you get older, they say you get

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your own money, sell drugs. I don't know how to sell drugs, I said. He

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said, you don't have to know how to sell them. He gave me the drugs, I

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stood there and he would point and they would come to me. I had my own

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sneaker money, I had my own movie money and my own power. Where I

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come from, the neighbourhood, he was hood famous. My Big Brother

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came from doing the same thing. But it was mostly one person, my man

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tAY, he was everything I wanted to be. He had the girls, the clothes,

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all the jewellery, the cars, the money. That is what I wanted.

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wanted to be Tay. Tay showed me how John, I missed your call. I wanted

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to check with you and give you a chance to talk to Alicia where we

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are at. Anything under ten, I try and make them go beyond that. Five

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to 40 would scare me. I was always proud of him, but I always figured

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he was OK, that he was good. I know I screwed up. You need that father

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figure in your life. I know my daughter needs me and I don't want

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me and her to have the same relationship me and my father had,

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looking at me in pictures. I don't Watching Anthony's child sleep

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hundreds of miles from her father, I could see the painful cycle

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gripping his family but I also had to wonder what compelled him to

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make the choices he Z It is interesting people ask the question,

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what about personal responsibility. You only thing you don't do is

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blame criminals for the crime that they committed. You blame everybody

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else and everything else. I wish the answer were that simple, but

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let's take a little step back. There are structural impediments.

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What you see over and over again in urban America are kids who live in

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a crowded home, who are hungry when they go to school, lack attention

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because they have heard noise and gunshots where they live. I don't

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think people fully understand in the inner city, these kids are

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making rational choices. I profiled a girl like this, a ten-year-old

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girl, the men she steps out of the door way, there are drug dealers

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out there, no economic opportunity. The school is warehousing her. She

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doesn't see any prospects. How is she supposed to get out. At the end

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of the day when there are no resources here and your teachers

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aren't stressing to you come to class, not caring, you are not

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going to come to school, you are going to sell drugs. To go to the

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drug kofrner is the rational act for somebody going to work for the

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only company in a town, which is the only economy working in this

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town. Those arrested soon find themselves in a cycle from which

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few ever really escape. People don't realise that when you arrest

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a young black man, the first thing when he gets out of prison, he

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can't get a job because of his record. If you have a felony charge

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you need to be working, trying to move yourself forward. If he wants

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to go back to school, he is ineligible by law for certain

:35:08.:35:13.

grants. He can't get certain health care benefits. He can't live in

:35:13.:35:16.

certain neighbourhoods. His family that was the centre piece of his

:35:16.:35:21.

life, if they are living in public housing, they can't take him in

:35:21.:35:26.

only people who deserve to live in public housing are those who live

:35:26.:35:34.

responsibilityy there. For the rest of your life you have to check that

:35:34.:35:38.

box on employment applications, dreading that question, have you

:35:38.:35:48.
:35:48.:35:51.

been convicted of a felony. As a physician I am concerned with the

:35:51.:35:56.

cash yul tis of the war on drugs, the frontline users and petty

:35:56.:35:59.

dealers. Rather than seeing the drug problem in isolation, you have

:35:59.:36:05.

to see it in a social context. These are not problems that are

:36:05.:36:11.

just intrinsic to individuals. They represent multi-generational family

:36:11.:36:15.

and social conditions and human failure. You say all the things

:36:15.:36:19.

that you knew when you were coming up that was wrong. Now I am

:36:19.:36:22.

starting to do them, but I can't control it because I got these

:36:22.:36:27.

problems. I am using drugs, I am halfway selling drugs, using drugs

:36:27.:36:37.
:36:37.:36:43.

and now I got these two little boys. I don't know how to really be their

:36:43.:36:53.
:36:53.:37:00.

dad. I know I am supposed to. I don't know how to stop doing what

:37:00.:37:08.

I'm doing. To be their dad. Seeing the pain Anthony's father carries

:37:08.:37:13.

over both his oin choices and the infact of outside pressures I

:37:13.:37:17.

wondered how a matter of public health didn't just inspire drug

:37:17.:37:23.

laws but became the full blown target of a war. America's public

:37:23.:37:28.

enemy number one is drug abuse. In order to fight and defeat it, it is

:37:28.:37:38.
:37:38.:37:40.

necessary to wage a new all-out offensive. The US war on drugs was

:37:40.:37:44.

initiated under President Richard Nixon to get his polls up. From

:37:44.:37:49.

most people I talk to the drug war was born in the late 60s under

:37:49.:37:52.

Richard Nixon. I have no sympathy for the pushers and peddlers and

:37:52.:37:59.

others in this country. We are going to restore freedom in America

:37:59.:38:04.

again. When Nixon ran for President, he talked about the problem of

:38:04.:38:07.

crime in the streets. The wave of crime is not going to be the wave

:38:07.:38:10.

of the future in the United States of America. This is really the

:38:10.:38:14.

first time in a major way that the issue of drug crime became a

:38:14.:38:20.

national political issue. Richard Nixon is credited as the first to

:38:20.:38:25.

coin the term a war on drugs, what most people don't realise is that

:38:25.:38:30.

under Nixon, two-thirds of the drug war budget was devoted to drement

:38:30.:38:35.

rather than -- treatment rather than law enforcement A programme of

:38:35.:38:40.

law enforcement alone is not enough. He understood the need to address

:38:40.:38:44.

addiction. This means that on the treatment of addicts, we must go

:38:44.:38:49.

parallel... He did things that were progressive, by standards of what

:38:49.:38:59.

came after him. The more I learned about Nixon, the more confusing he

:38:59.:39:03.

became. Privately he knew he would be more successful with drug

:39:03.:39:07.

treatment than enforcement but publicly Nixon returned to the

:39:07.:39:11.

simple crime fighting rhetoric that worked for him before. We must wage

:39:11.:39:15.

what I have called total war against public enemy number one in

:39:15.:39:20.

the United States, the drug of dangerous drugs. Nixon is re-

:39:20.:39:25.

elected... As his tough talk proved a recipe for electoral success,

:39:25.:39:35.
:39:35.:39:59.

I am very much a law and order kind of guy. I would rather have ten

:39:59.:40:05.

police cars than one soup kitchen. But sometimes I think we need to be

:40:05.:40:07.

smarter about what those police officers are actually out there

:40:07.:40:15.

doing. Maybe because he's seen the epitome of a hardened prison

:40:15.:40:22.

official. I think a long time ago we made drugs into this huge thing

:40:22.:40:32.

and we've made it so illegal and we've made it such a national issue

:40:32.:40:36.

with that tough on crime stance, you can't get elected few don't

:40:36.:40:41.

profess to be tough on crime. have tone sure drug dealers are

:40:41.:40:45.

punished, swiftly surely and severely. You can't stay elected

:40:45.:40:50.

few don't do things to be tough on crime. Beef up law enforcement and

:40:50.:40:54.

build new prison space for 24,000 inmates. Nobody can afford to be

:40:54.:40:57.

the first guy to say wait a minute we can't afford what we are doing,

:40:57.:41:02.

let's do something different. If you made a noise like like you are

:41:02.:41:12.
:41:12.:41:32.

going to be soft on crime, you People It is like they are paying

:41:32.:41:38.

for our fear instead of paying for their crime. I heard the same

:41:38.:41:41.

frustration, that political rhetoric robs them of the resources

:41:41.:41:44.

they need to do their jobs. People want to lock people up and keep

:41:45.:41:48.

them locked away and then when their sen sense is over they expect

:41:48.:41:52.

the person to be reformed or a different person. If you haven't

:41:52.:42:01.

given them skills, how can they be. I am a cabinet making here, when

:42:01.:42:08.

these guys get out of prison we help them get a job. He's got one

:42:08.:42:12.

strike against him, but he can say I am a licenced electrician or

:42:12.:42:16.

carpenter. For a lot of guys you have they are had self-respect, I

:42:16.:42:20.

guess. It's been false self-respect, because they were tough or because

:42:20.:42:23.

they stole a lot or because they sold a lot of drugs. This gives

:42:23.:42:28.

them the chance to anchor themselves to something good in

:42:28.:42:32.

these rehabilitation programmes. Prison is not a nice place, but I

:42:32.:42:36.

am glad I came here, it's made me a better person. This programme is

:42:36.:42:41.

the best thing that happened to me in my life. We are seeking change,

:42:41.:42:45.

accepting we cannot change our past but can change our future.

:42:45.:42:50.

problem is when you get into lean budget times, the citizens of

:42:50.:42:52.

Oklahoma say if we have to spend money on something, let's spend

:42:53.:42:58.

money on fences, handcuffs, cell doors. The rehabilitation

:42:58.:43:03.

programmes are the first thing to get cut. If we don't have the

:43:03.:43:08.

resource available, that equates to not not being able to give an

:43:08.:43:13.

offender a trade or skill and they go back to the same behaviour on

:43:13.:43:23.
:43:23.:43:46.

I am Larry Cearley, the marshal here. Magdalena is a small spot. We

:43:46.:43:51.

are 250 miles from the Mexican border. We have US Highway 60, a

:43:51.:43:55.

main corridor for drugs. For the last 29 years I have been working

:43:55.:44:00.

in law enforcement, the the major thing that's changed is drug

:44:00.:44:10.
:44:10.:44:10.

trafficking. At first glance he seemed from a bygone re of law

:44:10.:44:18.

enforcement. But as enforcing drug laution has

:44:18.:44:22.

become the the primary focus for police here, the nature of his work

:44:22.:44:32.
:44:32.:44:50.

We are fishing, but you look at trucks like this, that is an

:44:50.:44:53.

Arizona truck, somebody has been driving for 24 house because they

:44:53.:44:56.

don't want to get caught. This is telling me this person right here

:44:57.:45:03.

could be a drug trafficking. What is giving you that impression?

:45:03.:45:11.

truck and fast food. It is supposed to be illegal to profile, but after

:45:11.:45:16.

working so long, you kind of know who is doing something. Is it sort

:45:16.:45:19.

of phoney when people say they don't profile? It is all phoney. It

:45:20.:45:24.

is all phoney. If you don't profile vehicles, you are not in law

:45:24.:45:28.

enforcement. That is the way it is, man. Come on. What about profiling

:45:28.:45:38.
:45:38.:45:48.

What the war on drugs did was destroy the police deterrent in a

:45:48.:45:56.

subtle and unintended way. Going up to 15th street and dixie, he's

:45:56.:46:02.

going to have crack. We are sargeants in narcotics and we don't

:46:02.:46:06.

do street level drug deals. We do larger quantity cases, looking for

:46:06.:46:14.

dealers and and suppliers. A world away in the streets of Miami, I

:46:14.:46:20.

began to see the real impact of the drug war in law enforcement

:46:20.:46:30.
:46:30.:46:34.

Totally unrelated to the drug deal, but we stumbled on a house with a

:46:34.:46:41.

lot of money, marijuana. Sometimes that is how things happened. Nobody

:46:41.:46:45.

respects police work more than me. There are a lot of detectives who I

:46:45.:46:51.

admire for their professionalism and craft. The drug war created an

:46:51.:46:58.

environment in which none of that was rewarded. A drug arrest does

:46:58.:47:03.

not require anything other than getting out of your radio car and

:47:03.:47:08.

jacking people up. Probably cause, are you kidding? There is a good

:47:08.:47:13.

number of people in this area that are involved in drug dealing.

:47:13.:47:18.

problem there is a real tendency on the part of law enforcement to

:47:18.:47:23.

think geographicically to throw resources at an area. It is fish in

:47:23.:47:28.

a barrel for law enforcement. When you need to make an arrest, you

:47:28.:47:34.

trawl through there. People who are in the area not not committing

:47:34.:47:39.

crimes get stopped. It makes everybody angry. Watching arrest

:47:39.:47:42.

after arrest, I began to see for the first time the destructive

:47:42.:47:46.

impact of drug laws not only on those they target but on those who

:47:46.:47:51.

enforce them as well. The problem is that cop that made that cheap

:47:51.:47:54.

drug arrest, he is going to get paid. He will get the hours of

:47:54.:47:59.

overtime for taking the drugs Doug. He is going to get paid for

:47:59.:48:01.

processing the prisoner. He is going to get paid for sitting back

:48:01.:48:06.

at his desk and writing the paperwork and he is going to do

:48:06.:48:10.

that 60 times a month so his base pay might end up being half of what

:48:10.:48:20.
:48:20.:48:22.

he is paid as a police officer. We are paying a guy for stats. Compare

:48:22.:48:26.

that guy to the one guy doing police work, solving a murder, a

:48:26.:48:33.

rape a robbery, if he gets lucky he makes one arrest for the month. He

:48:33.:48:39.

gets one slip signed. At the end of the Monday, officer A made 60

:48:39.:48:42.

arrests, officer B made one arrest. Who do you think they make the

:48:42.:48:48.

sergeant. In a city like Baltimore, our percentage of arrest for murder

:48:48.:48:53.

rape and robbery are half of what they once were. Our drug arrest

:48:53.:48:58.

stats are twice what they once were. It makes the city unlivable. Nobody

:48:58.:49:03.

can solve a fucking crime. Beyond the incentives that exist for

:49:04.:49:07.

individual officers it turns out whole departments have a monetary

:49:07.:49:11.

interest in increased drug arrests. Most people don't realise that the

:49:11.:49:15.

financial incentive is built into the system, virtually guarantee the

:49:15.:49:18.

overwhelming majority of drug arrests in the United States will

:49:18.:49:23.

be for non-violent, low level drug offences. A couple of months ago we

:49:23.:49:28.

did a two day operation and arrests 200 people, majority of them for

:49:28.:49:33.

selling drugs. A lot of the money comes out of seizures from the drug

:49:33.:49:37.

profits, the bigger players are making off this. So I guess that

:49:37.:49:47.
:49:47.:49:48.

If I leave this room but go out there and get in my old truck and

:49:48.:49:53.

drive down the highway with $5,000 cash in my pocket that I earned, if

:49:53.:49:58.

I am pulled over by a state trooper, defective tail light or something s

:49:58.:50:03.

they can take that that $5,000, never charge me with a crime, take

:50:03.:50:10.

my truck, keep them forever. It goes on every day in counties all

:50:10.:50:16.

over this country. Can we get a toe slip for this fine piece of

:50:16.:50:26.
:50:26.:50:30.

$25,000 I got out of a seizure. police department operates on the

:50:30.:50:36.

money it seize s? Sometimes. This is legal within the state of New

:50:36.:50:46.
:50:46.:50:49.

Mexico. It is legal. What happens is with every successive encounter

:50:49.:50:58.

with a citizen that goes awry... The guy was upset, that we were

:50:58.:51:05.

stopping him illegally. He feels he was violated. Is that fair? Maybe

:51:05.:51:11.

not. Despite their commitment to their work, officers expressed

:51:11.:51:15.

growing concern not only about the effectiveness of drug laws but also

:51:15.:51:20.

their larger impact on the police and the public. How much time the

:51:20.:51:26.

community has spent feeling like they couldn't trust the police, it

:51:26.:51:32.

is one of the biggest problems. Providence, officers who appeared

:51:32.:51:41.

on TV as the picture of tough on crime cops to years, seem

:51:41.:51:44.

conflicted over what a better approach might look like. If you go

:51:44.:51:54.

out there and cause chaos, and sent to boot camp, national service.

:51:54.:52:01.

Something. We are doing our part out here and it is frustrating for

:52:01.:52:04.

us because it it seems likes because they are addicts they find

:52:04.:52:09.

themselves committing the same crime, that put them in jail, a

:52:09.:52:19.
:52:19.:52:23.

week or so prior. Can I see your ID please. Some responsibility lies

:52:23.:52:28.

with the parents. Straighten your kid out. That is easier said than

:52:28.:52:33.

do, when you have absentee patients. Sometimes the father is non-

:52:33.:52:36.

existent, the mother is trying to raise a family. Those kids, the

:52:36.:52:46.

percentage of kids that break out of that is really really low. If

:52:46.:52:51.

you keep having kids and you can't afford them, you know what, you

:52:51.:53:01.
:53:01.:53:03.

have to have a certain amount of responsibility. I am not saying

:53:03.:53:11.

spay them, but come on. I pay them 5,000 dollars to get a vasectomy or

:53:11.:53:19.

something, it's cheaper in the long run. Why are you laughing?

:53:20.:53:26.

Watching seasoned drug warriors struggle for answers. I wondered

:53:26.:53:30.

what it was about drugs that made them such a perceived danger in the

:53:30.:53:35.

first place. You have to understand the war on drugs has never been

:53:35.:53:45.
:53:45.:53:52.

Looking to find out more about the longer hestry of drugs in America,

:53:52.:54:02.
:54:02.:54:02.

I found an unlikely source in Lincoln historian Richard miller.

:54:02.:54:08.

Historically anti-drug laws have always been associated with race.

:54:08.:54:14.

In the 1,800s certain kinds of drugs were common in this country,

:54:14.:54:18.

cocaine was widely used. Heroin. People using drugs was something

:54:18.:54:26.

that was just ordinarily accepted. Opium for example was used by

:54:26.:54:30.

middle-aged successful Whitehouse wives in the south. If people were

:54:30.:54:34.

addicted or abusing drugs they were viewed sympathetically as people

:54:34.:54:39.

who had to be helped. It was Seen as a public health issue. One of

:54:39.:54:44.

the first changes was on the west coast when smoking opium was made a

:54:44.:54:49.

criminal offence. Why would opium smoking be illegal in California

:54:49.:54:53.

but not in Mississippi. What was going on in California that was a

:54:53.:54:56.

concern about smoking opium. It had nothing to do with opium itself.

:54:56.:54:59.

The concern was with the people associated with smoking opium and

:54:59.:55:06.

that was the Chinese. Who had come to this country and many of whom

:55:06.:55:09.

were in California, working hard, working for very little pay, and

:55:09.:55:13.

becoming part of the American success story. But their success

:55:13.:55:18.

was taking jobs away from white workers, so politicians got

:55:18.:55:23.

together and decided they got to find something about the Chinese

:55:23.:55:27.

for which they can be criminalised to get them out of the way. You

:55:27.:55:30.

can't throw people in jail because they are Chinese, but you can throw

:55:30.:55:35.

them in jail because they smoke opium. In the same way we saw

:55:35.:55:40.

things going on with cocaine. It was mid sl aged successful people

:55:40.:55:44.

in this country, business executives, physicians, house wives.

:55:44.:55:48.

Around the turn of the century cocaine began being associated with

:55:48.:55:56.

blacks. They can with stand - they can work hard all day long again

:55:56.:56:03.

threatening the jobs of white workers. They were arresting these

:56:03.:56:07.

people because they committed some sort of drug violation. Next we see

:56:07.:56:15.

the change in reputation that hip has had. It was a crop from

:56:15.:56:20.

colonial times. Then in the '30s, it changed into something vicious

:56:20.:56:25.

and fearsome called marijuana because at that time marijuana

:56:25.:56:28.

smoking was being associated with Mexicans, working hard, working

:56:28.:56:32.

cheap and what was being outlawed was not being Mexican but some

:56:32.:56:39.

habit associated with Mexicans. These laws set a very dangerous

:56:40.:56:44.

precedent of control. It seemed time and again drug laws targeted

:56:44.:56:46.

any immigrant group seen as a threat to the established economic

:56:46.:56:50.

order. But how then did black Americans who came to this country

:56:50.:56:54.

over 200 years ago become the primary targets of drug laws in the

:56:54.:56:59.

modern era. The way to think about African-American history is an

:56:59.:57:02.

immigrant story. The transition from the rural to the urban, it is

:57:02.:57:07.

one of the great mass migrations in the history of the world. When

:57:07.:57:11.

blacks came out of slavery they were heavily concentrated in the

:57:11.:57:15.

south and farming type jobs, as industries were expanding in the

:57:15.:57:19.

north, blacks were recruited to come to work in factories. This

:57:19.:57:25.

gave rise to the great migration of blacks flowing into urban areas.

:57:25.:57:29.

Before she came to work for my family Nannie Jeter joined the wave

:57:29.:57:32.

of black Americans who moved north during the great migration. She

:57:32.:57:38.

took me to her childhood home in southern Virginia. We grew up with

:57:38.:57:44.

a beautiful outside life, the Old Vic role la would play and we would

:57:44.:57:48.

dance and it was a completely different world. I loved life in

:57:48.:57:53.

the south. In that environment that seemed so wonderful in the south y

:57:53.:58:03.
:58:03.:58:07.

did you decide you wanted to leave the south? I left the south because

:58:07.:58:11.

I had. Black people couldn't say they were raped if they were raped.

:58:11.:58:19.

You never heard a rape, only the white lady got raped. But the black

:58:19.:58:23.

woman - I was innocent but people didn't think I was innocent. No-one

:58:23.:58:28.

knew I was leaving. I wanted to bring my children up different. The

:58:28.:58:35.

north was the way out. I thought it would make a dig difference -- big

:58:35.:58:41.

difference. She had never spoken so openly about her past and what

:58:41.:58:44.

compelled her north. But as I learned more about her life I began

:58:44.:58:49.

to see the deeper roots of the drug war for black American families.

:58:49.:58:53.

Sadly what many of these families came to find is that they had not

:58:53.:59:00.

really escaped Jim Crow at all. But found themselves in a new system of

:59:00.:59:06.

racial control, a new Jim Crow. Racially discriminatory laws across

:59:06.:59:09.

America ensured that poor people of colour, migrating from the south,

:59:09.:59:15.

would be confined to certain parts of the city that we now think of as

:59:15.:59:21.

ghettos. Very few people know this but if you look at how African-

:59:21.:59:24.

American housing patterns were established in the '30s and 40s as

:59:24.:59:29.

a result of the new deal, the FHA, a democratic New Deal Programme to

:59:29.:59:33.

inspire home ownership did more to create ghettos than any other

:59:33.:59:37.

federal programme before or since. Why? Because when they were

:59:37.:59:39.

creating the culture of home ownership in America, they were

:59:39.:59:43.

exclusionary to black people. They put them in the areas that maybe a

:59:43.:59:47.

bit economicically depressed and subject to heavy rentorship. They

:59:47.:59:53.

red lined those areas and they would not write FHA mortgages in

:59:53.:59:57.

those areas. Once the areas were red lined that was designed for a

:59:57.:00:06.

ghetto. In 1950, people were poor but had jobs. Industries had moved

:00:06.:00:11.

out of the inner city, leaving behind concentrated populations of

:00:11.:00:14.

poor people, vulnerable to drug trafficking and all the other

:00:14.:00:19.

problems associated with joblessness. What happens when

:00:19.:00:23.

groups are denied to the core economic engines in a society, they

:00:23.:00:27.

create their own, out of pro hinted comins. That was true of the

:00:27.:00:32.

Italians and Jews and everybody else who came to the cities a

:00:32.:00:35.

generation before African-Americans arrived. In 1969 during that time,

:00:35.:00:42.

I couldn't get a job.. When I came to work for your parents, I was

:00:42.:00:46.

happy just to have this job. Do you remember the first time you saw me?

:00:46.:00:53.

Yes. It was about three days old, your mum brought you home from the

:00:53.:01:00.

hospital. You were a beautiful baby that I fell in love with. You

:01:00.:01:05.

became my baby. I loved your family. I I guess I never dreamt you guys

:01:05.:01:15.
:01:15.:01:17.

would ever leave new hefen. -- Newhaven. We moved to a comfortable

:01:17.:01:23.

suburb of New York City. I didn't know how this impacted Nannie and

:01:24.:01:29.

her family. Your mum said my husband will double your pay if you

:01:29.:01:38.

can go with us. I was always working in New York, whilst my kids

:01:38.:01:45.

were in Newhaven. My youngest son James, he started to smoke

:01:45.:01:51.

marijuana at 14 and at 20 he started to really go into drugs. It

:01:51.:01:55.

is still amazing how you spend your life providing, loving your kids

:01:55.:02:01.

that you don't see the mental power that is going on in their life.

:02:01.:02:06.

Then you look at white kids, they have their parents and they have a

:02:06.:02:10.

house keeper that loves them. But yet still your kids are most of the

:02:10.:02:20.
:02:20.:02:28.

time alone. What happened with James? He died with AIDS from using

:02:28.:02:33.

needles. As Nannie and I returned to Newhaven together I saw my

:02:33.:02:36.

birthplace with new eyes, processing so much I hadn't

:02:37.:02:40.

understood about the intersection of James's life and my own. But

:02:40.:02:45.

what else had I missed. Growing up in the wake of the civil rights

:02:45.:02:49.

movement, I guess like many people I imagined things were going to get

:02:49.:02:52.

better for black America but as it it turned out in many ways the

:02:53.:03:02.

worst was yet to come. Growing up in Florida, I remember thinking I

:03:02.:03:07.

never wanted to leave Florida. I used to tell my parents before we

:03:07.:03:11.

would go out and do something illegal, I used to say God is on

:03:12.:03:21.

our side because he knows we are poor and I so he understands what

:03:21.:03:29.

we are doing. I actually believed that shit. Carl Hart was part of a

:03:29.:03:32.

generation of black men who experienced first hand the most

:03:32.:03:36.

dramatic escalation of the drug war in American history. Today a

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Professor of psychology at New York's Columbia University his past

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experience remains a driving force in his work. Growing up in the '70s

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and '80s, many of my friends, family members got caught up in

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drug use. I was always interested in drugs abuse. What I do today, I

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give people drugs in the lab to study the effects of drugs like

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meth am fete meet, marijuana. Karl's research is on the science

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behind addiction, his own experience has shown him how often

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drug laws are shaped less by scientific concerns than political

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ones. In the '80s, I was concerned about the havoc that drugs were

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wreak nothing our community. Or the havoc I thought drugs were reeking

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in our community. That brings us to the major effort that I am

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announcing this morning. In the long history of the drug war, no

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single chapter would turn out to impact black America more deeply

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than the eight years of the Reagan presidency. What will you do when

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someone offers you drugs? Just say no. While Nancy Reagan's popular

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slogan took what would seem a mother approach to drug prevention,

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her husband took a tougher approach. We intend to do what is necessary

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to end the drug menace and eliminate this dark evil enemy

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When Reagan announced he was plan to go rev up the drug war, it was

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political opportunity more than ever. At the time drug crime was

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actually on the decline. Less than 2% of the American population even

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identifies drugs as the nation's top priority. But then of course

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they got lucky. Crack cocaine... Crack co kaib. Crack hit the

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streets and suddenly there was hysteria about this brand new

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demon-like form of cocaine. Today there is a new epidemic. Smokable

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cocaine, otherwise known as crack. It is an uncontrolled fire. The

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American people want their government to get tough and go on

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the offensive and that is what we intend with more ferocity than ever

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before. If smaller cities don't have a crack crisis now, they will

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soon. They are just carrying on like it is their living room, like

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this is their home, like they belong here. They don't belong here.

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What we saw were images of black urbanites on TV smoking crack

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cocaine over and over and over. And then using incredible stories were

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associated with crack cocaine. They If you go back to the '20s and 30s

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this is what people were saying about marijuana. If you say that

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now in our society, people would look at you as if you were crazy.

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When you have a new drug introduced into society, you can say

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incredible things about that drug and people will believe you.

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society is now infested with drug abusers. There is a tremendous fear

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of this epidemic that was going to overcome all of us, not only with

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drug addiction, but with violence and terror that was going to come

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out of this. Tremendous fear led to this view the criminal laws would

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save us. The laws raced through Congress in record time, there were

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no hearings held, no consultation with experts. This is something

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that had to be dealt with, election year fever did take hold of some

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people. With overwhelming support Reagan signed into law an

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unprecedented array of mandatory minimum sentences for drug crimes,

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but no drug would receive harsher penalties than crack The penalties

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were outrageous. The acceptance of coke is widespread commonplace

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among professionals. Whilst were using powder cocaine in board rooms.

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Blacks were using crack cocaine in public housing and on the street.

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What is the response? I want to know why I am I am being treated

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like I murdered somebody. Many people, including judges, began to

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question the disparity in sentences between crack and powder. That's

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the major reason why I have agreed to be interviewed. In my view it it

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is not fair to have 100-1 disparity in the difference between powder

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cocaine and crack cocaine. Let me explain what that means. A crack

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defendant with 5 grams of crack cocaine is treated the same as a

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powder cocaine defendant with 100 times more weight, in other words

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500 grams of powder cocaine. I don't think most people realise

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this. What is the difference between powder cocaine and crack

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cocaine? Do you know? All crack cocaine comes from powder cocaine.

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The difference is you add baking soda, water and heat from an oven.

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That is the only difference. I run a group called Familys Against

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Madatory Minimums. I think what I didn't know was how hard it would

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be to change the laws. Julie Stewart first learned about the

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severity of mandatory minimums when a family member was picked up on

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marijuana charges. I started meeting other families who kids

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were in for so much longer. In her fight, Julie took her cause to the

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US sentencing commission where she found an unlikely ally. I was the

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first federal judge in the nation to search as the first chair in the

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sentencing commission. sentencing commission vote today

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make crack and powder cocaine exactly the same. Is crack

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dangerous, yes it is, but the commission looked at this on many

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occasions and found that crack cocaine is00 to 1 was unjust.

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can be no doubt that the sentences for crack...

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51% of the crack is used by the white population. In Los Angeles

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there has not been one white conviction. Not one. Despite the

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evidence presented by judges and experts, Congress was unyield.

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my view at least, the findings are very vulnerable. These people are

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killing our kids. They are disrupting society. These people

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I don't think people understand how crucial this is, how serious this

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is, what is going on. Look can at Maurice's case, he is facing a

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double mandatory minimum from ten years to 20 years. Does he deserve

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a a 20 year sentence, I don't think so. After years of concern from the

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bench about unfair sentencing, the Supreme Court rule judges should be

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given back a certain degree of discretion to determine what a fair

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sentence would be. Judge Bennett did something historic. I am the

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first judge to do a One to One sentencing ratio between crack and

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powder cocaine. He took it from 30 years to 18 years, but it didn't

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help. In Maurice's case, the justice was Trumped by the

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mandatory minimum. Judge Bennett's decision to use a One to One ratio

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turns out to be symbolic. The money mum is ten years and then with me

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having a prior drug felony, the minimum is 20 years, so I got a 20

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year sentence today. If I go round the country and see the people in

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jail unbelievable sentences, how did this go wrong? Well, I don't

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know it went wrong, it is just I guess the system worked. The system

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worked the way Congress planned for it to work. They are not going to

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come home and campaign on the fact that for more lenient sentences for

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drug dealers. Just the opposite. I want tough sentences for drug

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dealers. But whether Congress started out with race in mind or

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not t turns out that minorities are targeted by these mandatory

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minimums, 100 to one ratio more than others are and that's not good.

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It is interesting because African- Americans do not use crack cocaine

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any more than whites. Whites use it more. African-Americans Make up 13%

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of the population and they are 13% of the crack users. The rest of the

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users are white and brown, which is amazing, because 90% of the crack

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cocaine defendants in the federal I came back south for multiple

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reasons. To attend some court proceedings. Of course I am here to

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see my family because they are all here. Like so many people I met in

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the world of the drug war, Carl's story turned out to be more complex

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than I originally understand. After breaking ouft his past, Carl found

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himself drawn back into the world I found out Tobias was my son eight

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years ago. I was 16 when I found out. He is now 26. Nine years later

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I am still struggling with him because I am responsible for this

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person being here. But yet I had no influence on how this person was

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shaped. Right now, he has two charges, he has a cocaine charge.

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It's not encouraging. I ain't too good. You should make sure you get

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a small gig, I don't care what it pays. I am just afraid that you go

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before a judge and then they are going to say how are you getting

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your loot. I don't care. You can do whatever you want in life. If you

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have this stuff hanging over your head, you are going to be shackled

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by the system. Please, man, do It's difficult because I know his

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fate. It's the same shit we grew up with. It's cycles. Particularly in

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light of what I am trying to do There's a general belief that black

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people are using drugs disproportionate to their numbers

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in the population. I like to see evidence be used in

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our shaping of public policy. All of this was completely missed in

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the hysteria in the mid-80s and 90s about crack cocaine. After spending

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so much career studying drugs and drug laws in the black community,

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Carl's focus has turned to a new drug and new target for law

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enforcement. There is a new drug epidemic in the United States,

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methamphetamine, like crack, it is cheap, potent and leads addicts to

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serious crimes. All across America, we have got people who are trying

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to lure children into using meth. By the 1990s we were seeing a

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similar phenomena as we saw with crack co kaib. -- cocaine. The

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people associated with methamphetamine use are trailer

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parks and gay folks, two despised groups. When we think about the

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country's response to meth, meth users have been vilified and the

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reason we have to recognise it is so we can be careful or more

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critical than we were with crack cocaine. Iowa, Nebraska, Missouri,

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the heart land of the methamphetamine use.

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For a long time crack cocaine was the drug populating prisons. Meth

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has rapidly caught up with it and probably overtaken it. Today the

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average person I sentence at a drug case is a non-violent, blue collar

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worker who lost their job and then turned to manufacturing

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methamphetamine to support their habit and we treat them like they

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With their rates of incarceration rising, white inmates have start

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today receive the kind of harsh sentences that blacks have faced

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My name is Kevin Ott, I am in here for trafficking met amphetamine. I

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start my 14th year in a couple of months and I will be here until I

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die. I have life without parole for Pnchts Ifucked up, but I don't

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think I should die for it. I have life without parole. I will stay in

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prison until I die. It is a slow death sentence. I have to wait

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until I die. The reason I started with meth was because I got laid

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off. Somebody said, here, try to sell some of this and get you a

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little extra money. Then I started using it. Then I had to sell it to

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pay for it. How much is three ounces? It would fit in a small

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envelope. If you have been busted for two prior drug charges, smoking

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pot or having pot or meth, whatever it is and then you get a

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trafficking charge, they give you life without parole, it's mandatory,

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life without parole. Kevin has always been a good son. His father

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was drafted and was sent to Vietnam. He looks very much like a boy, he

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was a boy. He went to Vietnam and came home a very damaged boy. He

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saw people that were maimed, injured, shot and killed and I

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think he became addicted to heroin to help ease his personal pain.

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After losing Kevin's dad, Kevin stepped up and felt like he was the

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man of the household. When I first came in, there was only a few of us,

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five or six at the most. A couple of years ago I heard that there

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were 92 people in the state of Oklahoma that had life without

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parole for drugs and it keeps growing. I fought it and it's over

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with. It's been over with probably nine years. I took it all the way

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to the Supreme Court and they wouldn't hear it. So here I am,

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waiting for the law to change or The time I have been locked up, my

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mother has lost two of her brothers, one of her brothers daughters

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directly relate today drugs. Then my sister, my younger sister was

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coming to visit me in prison and died in a car wreck. It's been

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pretty bad for my mom. She's pretty strong. Today people have to

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understand the drug war is actually a war on all Americans and I think

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people keep saying that is about them, no, it is about you. No-one

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imagines when they saw somebody African-Americans getting locked up,

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that it would apply beyond the black community, but it does.

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Unemployment at 9%, America is struggling through the worst

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recession since... Thousands of people, job job ps and

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hopeless look for a way out. Before I got into drugs, I looked down on

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A funny thing happened on the way to the 21 century. We shrugged off

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so much of our manufacturing base. For the the types of jobs you could

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raise a family and be a meaningful citizen. We got rid of so much of

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that, we marginalised a lot of white people. Lo and behold, white

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people when they are denied meaning, denied meaningful work, they become

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drug addicts too and they become involved in the meth trade and

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start turning themselves over to the underground economies.

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Capitalism is fairly colour blind in the end. Our economic engine,

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when it doesn't need somebody, it doesn't need somebody s it doesn't

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give a damn who you are. White people found that out a bit later

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After hearing so much about the failure of the drug war and the

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harm it does, I wanted to understand what drives it. Far from

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the frontlines of the war I discovered a vast and less visible

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world of people who play a part. This chair in comparison to other

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types of restraint chairs is the most humane. The person in the

:24:33.:24:43.
:24:43.:24:45.

chair can breathe easily and it is The war on drugs has to be a war at

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every level. It has to be a war on the streets of the cities. It has

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to be a war at the state level and has to be a war at the federal

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level. Before in the prisons I guess the only choice was you could

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get a Torah or a Bible. Things have changed now. All sorts of people

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get a vested interest, the financial financial interest in

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keeping the system going. It is a growing market, there are a lot of

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prisoners in the United States. That's what I mean by growing. Now

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you got me feeling awkward because of the camera. Put it down. We are

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the largest in the world as far as private prisons and jails. We are

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profitable, we are highly rated in the stock market. It homes your

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ability to do it less expensively. Because we have to earn profit.

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There is a whole range of corporations Taser gun

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manufacturers, private health care proviteders, than depend on prisons

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as their primary employer. these people are not try to go do

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anything wrong, they are trying to make society better, but their

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actions become part of the thrust that makes bad parts of the drug

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war more feasible. The question we have to ask is, why given that it

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seems to be a failure, why is it persisting. I am beginning to think,

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maybe it is a success. What if it is a success by keeping police

:26:28.:26:34.

forces busy. What if it is a success keeping legal establishing

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justified. Maybe it is a success on different terms than the publicly

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stated ones. Perhaps not surprisingly, it was people on the

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inside who turned out to be most aware of the dangerous pressures

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that outside forces exert on the system.

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My job is to keep the people inside who are supposed to be inside. I am

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going to do my job. As I have come along in corrections over the last

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20 years, I have watched it grow into this thing, it is almost a

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self-fulfilling prophecy, you build a bed, they fill the bed. It grows

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and grows and grows of its own accord. You almost can't stop it.

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You can't afford to stop it. So now you start talking about we could

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cut corners and reduce, if we reduce by closing that facility.

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You can't do that, my community will dry up and blow away. The

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private prisons, they actually go to a town and say if you use your

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tax money to buy the land and build the facility, we will rent it for

:27:35.:27:39.

you and you will get rich and we will all be rich together. That

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only works if there are prisoners in the bed. Now you start to find

:27:44.:27:50.

people who fit the criteria. Now it is going to grow faster. You can't

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let that town fail. So you can't change the way you think about

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locking people up. You need a new enemy? It is the same enemy, you

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just need more of them. Though my journey had begun with a simple

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question, it was forcing me to confront unsettling realities

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facing the country. Instead of saying let's get rid of these drug

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addicts and dealers and once we throw away the key on them, we will

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solve the problem, why not say this, all these Americans that we don't

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need any more, the factories are closed we don't need them, the

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textile mills are gone, GM is closing plants, we don't need these

:28:41.:28:45.

people, let's just get rid of the bottom 15% of the country, lock

:28:45.:28:50.

them up. Let's see if we can make money money off off locking them up.

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Even though it is going to destroy families, where these people are

:28:56.:28:59.

probably integral to the lives 6 other Americans, let's get rid of

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them. Why not just say kill the poor, if we kill the poor we are

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going to be better off. That is what the drug war has become. Of

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father was a war crimes investigator in Europe. We often

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talked about his experiences. I was reading the work of someone who

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wrol about the destruction of European Jews in the Holocaust.

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have long known that the process of destruction was an undertaking step

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by step. I realised there was a chain of destruction, what he was

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talking about could be expressed by links in a chain. Round-the-world

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in more than one society, people do the same things again and again,

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decade after decade. Century after century. Now this chain of

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destruction begins with the phase we can cull identification, in

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which a group of people is identified as a cause for problems

:30:06.:30:10.

of society. People start to perceive their fellow citizens as

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bad or evil. They used to be worthwhile people but for some

:30:15.:30:18.

reason now their lives are worthless. The second link in the

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chain of destruction is ostracism by which we learn how to hate these

:30:22.:30:26.

people, how to take their jobs away, how to make it harder for them to

:30:26.:30:30.

survive. People lose their place to live. Often forced into ghettos

:30:30.:30:35.

where they are physically isolated, separate from the rest of society.

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The third link is confiscation. People lose their rights. The laws

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themselves change so it's made easier for people to be on the

:30:44.:30:49.

street, patted down and searched and for their property to be

:30:49.:30:53.

confiscated. Once you start taking people's property away, you can

:30:53.:30:57.

take the people away. The fourth link is concentration. Concentrate

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them into facilities such as prisons, camps, people lose their

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rights, they can't vote any more, can't have children any more. They

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are exploited often. Final link in the chain of destrix is

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annihilation. This might be indirect with medical --

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withholding medical care. Or might be direct where death is inflicted,

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where people are deliberately killed. These steps tend to happen

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of their own momentum. A lot of people would be disturbed and

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outraged by the thought of any part of this process could be going on

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in America. But it wasn't until I began studying the drug war that I

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realised some of these same steps were happening. For instance,

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identification. All of us agree the greatest domestic threat facing our

:31:53.:31:57.

nation today is drugs. The way to take a problem and make it a huge

:31:57.:32:02.

problem is first you ask the wrong question and then you feed us the

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wrong answer. Who is responsibility? Let me tell you

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straight out. Everyone who uses drugs S everyone who sells trution.

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And everyone who looks the other way. You identify people, their

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characteristics, you make them other, using fear mongering as if

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they are the cause of our problems. These people are killing our kids.

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These people are wrecking our society. Secondly ostracism.

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Society learns to hate drug users. If you are a casual drug user, you

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are an accomplice to murder. apply special laws to them. These

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people who have been identified as drug users become criminals. If you

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break the law you no longer have a home in public housing.

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ultimate effect is isolation, being cut off from mainstream society.

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started out, we identify them, figure out who they are, start

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making laws laws to prevent them from being around our children.

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Where do they go. The area of the least opposition, the modern

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American ghetto. We manage to isolate the poor economically.

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force them out of the place where they can live and work be

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successful and now you make them criminals. Once the economics has

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done its business, then you can have different levels of policing,

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Confiscation, any property they find on you can be subjected to

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In the drug war, there is more that is being confiscated. It is being

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taken from them, all hope in the future. With the drug war we have

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gone as far as the concentration phase. My government says we are

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fighting a heroic war against drugs and the war against people who use

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drugs. Francsly a lot of them -- frankly a lot of them will have to

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be locked up. Extraordinary numbers of people are in prison because of

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drugs, yet it is not a place to get drug treatment. They come out and

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then we are surprised we have the highest re-offending rates. This

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concentration of people, who it is in inner city ghettos or prisons,

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creates a culture of hopelessness that is incredibly corrosive. When

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they don't have any prospects, people turn to drugs. Then we will

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pursue them and be able to to hire a bunch of prison guards and parole

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officers and drug treatment people. In the short-term some people have

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jobs. Annihilation, that is not happening with the drug war in this

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country. But there are subtle but real ways that don't involve

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indiscriminate mass killings, such as preventing births. Violence in

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prisons. People swept up in drug It is important to remember or

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realise that it isn't the war on drug users is the same that what

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happened in other societies, but they both are wars on ordinary

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people, people just like us. have to have an enemy for

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everything. The way Germany in the '30s rebuilt their infrastructure,

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rebuilt their industries and rebuilt their pride, their

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nationalism was by saying that these people, this group of people

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is the cause of all of our woe, if we hate them, we will be better off.

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We do say those people are bad for us and if we hate them, our lives

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will be better. Everybody has to The drug war is a hos kaus in slow

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motion. It is not somebody organising racial superiority or

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arguing for the destruction of a given race or religion. That

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doesn't exist. Let's be honest about what was unique to the

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Holocaust. But there is an incredible destruction of human

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life that is class-based, not race- based but class-based that is going

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on under the guise of a war against I know they want people to learn a

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lesson, but to be honest, all this time is not really helping anybody.

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For instance my daughter. It is making her grow up like merks the

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cycle is -- me, the cycle is just continuing. This is a letter

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written by your aunt. I just wanted you to know a bit about Maurice.

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When he was six months old his father was murdered. That was a sad

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day. My sister then began using drugs lns

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Of all the years I spent in narcotics, I zbnt out there every

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day and say let's inflict harm on the community. Unintended

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consequence was that we probably did inflict harm. Two young kids

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with the mother. Kevin has been locked up 13 years.

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So now we write letters and we call and we e-mail and just with a

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prayer that somebody will hear us. Because our day will come and I

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believe it will come. I don't think my son is going to die in prison.

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Walking away and leaving him is the hardest thing that I do. I don't

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know what the solution is, but I know the solution can't be more of

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what's got us to this spot. It can't be more of the same.

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America's drug problem, a result of hundreds of years of history,

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economic policy, social policy and misunderstanding. Let's not make

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the most visible manifestation of it, people being out on the street

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and using the problem. It is not the problem, it is the

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manifestation of the problem, it is You have to deal with the whole

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picture. After 40 years of incalculable

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human cost, it is hard to imagine how something so deeply rooted in

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American life can possibly be changed. We find ourselves as a

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nation in the midst of a profound have largely been ignoring at our

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peril. At many levels across the country there are people trying to

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change things. After 30 years all my colleagues who are afraid for

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the politics, we have to go a different way. You have never had

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so many people on the same side of this issue, we fought a war and

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have been unsuccessful. How do we prevent people from becoming drug

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addicts. Too many people in jail that don't need to be there. There

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is a lot that is not working. recent months, under increasing

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public pressure, the first signs have emerged that the drug war

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after decades of failure and unsustainable cost may be changing.

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Congress took action today to fix what many have called a very unfair

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gap in federal sentencing rules for crack cocaine as opposed to powder

:40:29.:40:34.

cocaine. President Obama signed a law at the White House today

:40:34.:40:44.
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cutting the aish yo to 18--- ratio to 18-1. Despite a few first steps,

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those experienced with criminal justice know it will take more than

:40:47.:40:53.

experts, activists and a handful of law makers to undo the damage

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decades of drug laws have caused. The political infrastructure is so

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wedded to the status quo, they are so consumed with the next election,

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there will never emerge a shred of leadership that will change the

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situation. It is up to us. longer can drug laws serve as a

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stimulus package for prison communities on the back of poor

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people. We don't need to wait until we get consensus. We need to do

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what is like. If there are people who are sentencing experts that are

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supposed to tell Congress and the public what the right thing to do

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is, I just urge you to do it. believe it is in the interest of

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every American that we thoroughly examine our entire criminal justice

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system. You need to care about the person down the the block. If you

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let their rights be compromised, your rights are compromised.

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anything ever going to be done about this. It's going to have to

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come from the people out there. We can't do it from in here. Do you

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know what it is like to go home at night knowing that did you a

:42:11.:42:21.
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personal injustice. I did an Back in 2008 when I began filming,

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despite the excitement of the election of Barack Obama, the

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thoughts of Nannie Jeter stayed with me. I feel I cheated myself

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out of what I could have accomplished. I never knew I wanted

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to be in politics, to be a voice for someone to say what was wrong,

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whether it changed or not, but to make known it was wrong. I have

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learnt so much and I tried to tell it to other people. But it's like

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people are going down the same road you went down before they learn.

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You make mistakes through life. Mistakes are always there. You make

:43:19.:43:26.

a lot of mistakes with your life. But when you somehow blow your kids

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