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-Orange County Fire Rescue. -16 600 Sea Harbour Drive. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
Shamu Stadium. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
OK. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:09 | |
We actually have a trainer in the water with one of our whales. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
-The whale that they're not supposed to be in the water with. -OK. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
-We will get someone round. -Gate number three, Shamu Stadium. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
Gate three. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
This programme contains scenes which some viewers may find upsetting | 0:00:22 | 0:00:29 | |
Orange County, Sheriff's Office. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
We need SO to respond for a dead person at SeaWorld. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
A whale has eaten one of the trainers. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
A whale ate one of the trainers? | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
That's correct. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
'Do you believe?' | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
My parents first brought me to a SeaWorld park when I was very young. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:16 | |
From that point forward, I was hooked. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
It meant everything to me because I'd never wanted anything more. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:25 | |
I remember probably being in first or second grade, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
watching National Geographic specials or Mutual of Omaha's | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
specials and seeing whales and dolphins | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
and as a little kid just being really incredibly inspired by it. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
I never went to SeaWorld. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:36 | |
I grew up in New York, so I went to the Bronx Zoo. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
-Grew up on a lake with horses. We'd swim the horses. -I grew up around the ocean. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
I came from the middle of the country, Flatland Kansas. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
From Virginia, travelled down, | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
did the theme park thing in Orlando when I was 17. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:51 | |
And saw the night show at Shamu Stadium. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
Very emotional, you know, popular music. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
And I was just very driven to want to do that. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
And I saw what the trainers did and I said, "That's what I want to do!" | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
One of the trainers there goes, "What are you doing out there? | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
"You should be a trainer." I don't know how to train animals. I never trained animals in my life. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
How do you prepare yourself for an encounter with | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
an 8,000lb Orcinus orca? | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
I always thought you needed, like, a Masters degree in marine biology to be a trainer. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
It takes years of study and experience to meet the strict | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
requirements necessary to interact in the water | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
with Shamu. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
You come to find out, it really is more about your personality and how good you can swim. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
I went and tried out, got the job right away. Like, yeah, so excited. I was so, so excited. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:45 | |
I really wanted to be there. I really wanted to do the job. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
I couldn't wait to get in the water with the animals. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
I really was proud of being a SeaWorld trainer. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
I thought this was the most amazing job. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
I showed up there on my first day, not really knowing what to expect. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
'I was told to put on a wet suit and get in the water.' Hi, Mom! | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
Oh, I was scared out of my wits. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
First of all, I put my wet suit on backwards | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
cos I was raised on a farm in Virginia. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
My first thought and memory of that time was that dolphins are a | 0:03:12 | 0:03:17 | |
lot bigger than they look, when you get in the water next to them. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
Well, I watched this sea lion otter show and this guy, Mike Morocco. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
He comes out during the show with a dress on as Dorky, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:30 | |
the alter ego of Dorothy. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
In a dress, with a sea lion, the coward sea lion, right? | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
And he's walking along with his little basket and I go, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
"I will never ever do that!" | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
Two months later, "Hi! I'm Dorky!" | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
Walking out on stage with the sea lion. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
I was overwhelmed and I was so excited. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
I mean, just seeing a killer whale... | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
..is breathtaking. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
I was just in awe. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
It's shocking to see how large they are and how beautiful they are. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
Being in the presence of a killer whale was inspiring and amazing and | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
I remember seeing them for the first time, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
just not being able to believe how huge they were. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
You're there because you want to train killer whales | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
and that's your goal. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
I didn't know it was going to happen, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
so I wasn't expecting it, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
and one day they say, "OK, Sam. You're ready to go. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
"You're going to stay on the whale, you're going to dive off the | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
"whale, the whale's going to swim under you and pick you up again. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
"And then you're going to do a perimeter ride around the pool." | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
They just told me to go do it and I did it. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
Wow! I just rode a killer whale! | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
When you look into their eyes, you know somebody is home, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
somebody's looking back. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:06 | |
You form a very personal relationship with your animal. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
There's something absolutely amazing about working with an animal. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:16 | |
You are a team. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
And you build a relationship together | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
and you both understand the goal and you help each other. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
I've been with this whale since I was 18 years old. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
I've seen her have babies. We've grown up together. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
That's the joy I got out of it, it's a relationship like I've never had. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:37 | |
I have to know, are you nervous? | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
I'm scared. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:56 | |
No! Nice hair, Jeff! | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
Jeff Ventre. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
Jeff Ventre is going to go over there, he's going to shine... | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
-Dawn. -Oh, that's Dawn! Wow! | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
Probably be my supervisor one day. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
I knew Dawn when she was new. She was a great person to work with | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
and she obviously blossomed into one of SeaWorld's best trainers. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:27 | |
This is Dawn Brancheau. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:28 | |
Dawn is the senior trainer here at Shamu Stadium. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
I guess you could say I kind of knew Dawn in a past life. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
-It's a tough job, isn't it? -Yeah, we really do go through a lot of physical exertion. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
You can see in the show, we do a lot of deep water work, breath holds. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
High energy behaviours with the animals. They're giving out a lot of energy too, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
but we're working together and having a lot of fun as well. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
She's beautiful, she's blonde, she's athletic, she's friendly. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
Everybody loves Dawn. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
I mean this so sincerely, watching you perform yesterday, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
-you are amazing. -Thank you. -You really are! | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
She captured what it means to be a SeaWorld trainer. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
She had so much experience. It made me realise, what happened to her could have happened to anyone. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:06 | |
This is Detective Revere, Orange County Sherriff's Office. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
Today's date is February 24th 2010. The time is 4.16. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
In the room with me right now is Thomas George Tobin. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
-Is that correct? -Correct. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
-So the arm is nowhere... -Right. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
OSHA on behalf of the Federal Government is basically | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
suggesting that swimming with orcas is inherently dangerous | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
and that you can't completely predict the outcome | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
when you enter the water, enter their environment. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
That's the crux of the OSHA case. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
Stay out of proximity with the animals and you won't get killed. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
It will have a ripple effect through the whole industry. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
This was national headline news. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
SeaWorld's whale performances may never be the same. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
Right now, the theme park is arguing in court to keep whale | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
trainers in the water, something OSHA says is extremely dangerous. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
These are wild animals and they are unpredictable because we don't | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
speak whale, we don't speak tiger, we don't speak monkey. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
And tempers flared between the two sides today | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
when OSHA's attorney suggested that SeaWorld only made changes | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
after trainer Dawn Brancheau's death outraged the public. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
OSHA doesn't want the trainers going back in the water without | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
a physical barrier between them and the whales. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
Being in close proximity to these top predators is too dangerous. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
They won't then be getting in the water, riding on the whales, things like that? | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
If you were in a bathtub for 25 years, don't you think you'd | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
get a little irritated, aggravated, maybe a little psychotic? | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
The situation with Dawn Brancheau, it didn't just happen, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
it's not a singular event. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:07 | |
You have to go back over 20 years to understand this. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
It was a really exciting thing to do until everybody wanted to do it. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
What were they telling you you were going to do? | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
Capture orcas. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
They had aircraft, they had spotters, they had speedboats, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
they had bombs they were throwing in the water. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
They were lighting their bombs with acetylene torches in boats | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
and throwing them as fast as they could to herd the whales into coves. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
But the orcas had been caught before and they knew what was going on | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
and they knew their young ones would be taken from them. | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
So the adults without young went east into a cul-de-sac | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
and the boats followed them, thinking they were all going that way, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
while the mothers with babies went north, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
but the capture teams had aircraft | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
and they have to come up for air eventually and when they did, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
the capture teams alerted the boats and said, "Oh, no. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
"They're going north, the ones with babies," | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
so the boats, the speedboats, caught them there and herded them in. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
And then they had fishing boats with nets that could stretch across, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
so none could leave, and then they could just pick out the young ones. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
We were only after the little ones. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
And the little ones are a big animal, still, but I was told | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
because of shipping costs, that's why they only take the little ones. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
They had the young ones that they wanted in the corrals, so they | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
dropped the nets and all the others could have left, but they stayed. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
We were there, trying to get the young orca into the stretcher, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
and the whole family is 25 yards away maybe, in a big line. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:21 | |
And they're communicating back and forth. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
Well...you understand then what you're doing, you know? | 0:11:24 | 0:11:31 | |
I lost it. I mean, I just started crying. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:40 | |
I didn't stop working, but I... | 0:11:40 | 0:11:45 | |
You know... Just couldn't handle it. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
Just like kidnapping a little kid away from a mother. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:54 | |
Everybody's watching. What can you do? | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
The worst thing I can think of. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
I can't think of anything worse than that. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
Now, this really sounds bad, but when the whole hunt was over, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:10 | |
there were three dead whales in the net. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:15 | |
So they had Peter and Brian and I cut the whales open, | 0:12:17 | 0:12:23 | |
fill them with rocks, put anchors on their tails and sink them. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:28 | |
Well... | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
Really, I didn't even think about it being illegal at that point. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:41 | |
I thought it was a PR thing. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
They were finally ejected from the state of Washington | 0:12:43 | 0:12:48 | |
by a court order in 1976. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
It was SeaWorld by name that was told - do not come back | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
to Washington to capture whales. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
Without missing a beat, they went from Washington to Iceland | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
and began capturing there. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
I've been part of the revolution | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
to change presidents in Central South America. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
And seen some things that are hard to believe. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
But this is the worst thing that I've ever done... | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
..is hunt that whale. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
'Sealand has been a part of Victoria for over 20 years. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
'We specialise in the care and display of killer whales.' | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
By the time I started, he was four. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
He was up to 16ft long and weighed 4,000lbs. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
I had actually seen Tilikum quite a number of times. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
He was right across the strait here in Victoria. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
All Sealand was was a net hanging in a marina with a float around it. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:30 | |
Tilikum was the one we really loved to work with. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
He was very well-behaved and he was always eager to please. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
When he was first introduced, everything just went fine and dandy. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
But the previous head trainer used techniques that involved punishment. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:46 | |
He would team a trained orca up with Tilikum, who was untrained. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
He would send them both off to do the same behaviour. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
If Tilikum didn't do it, then both animals were punished. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
Deprived of food to keep them hungry. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
This caused a lot of frustration with the larger animal, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
the established animal, and would in turn get frustrated with | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
Tilikum and would rake him with his teeth. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
There would be times during certain seasons that Tilikum would be | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
covered, head to toe, with rakes. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
Rakes are teeth on teeth and raking the skin and from head to toe, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
you could see blood and you could see scratches | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
and he would just be raked up. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
Both females would gang up on him. Tilikum was the one we trusted. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
We never were concerned about Tilikum. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
The issue was really that we stored these whales at night in what | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
we called a module, which was 20ft across and probably 30ft deep. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
As a safety precaution, because we were worried about people cutting the net and letting them go, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:41 | |
the lights were all turned out, so no stimulation, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
they're just in this dark metal 20ft by 30ft pool | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
for two-thirds of their life. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:49 | |
When we first started, they were quite small and quite young, so | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
they fit in there quite nicely, but they were immobile for the most part. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
It didn't feel good. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
It just didn't. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
And it was just wrong. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
We started having difficulty getting them all | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
into this one small steel box, to be honest, that's what it was. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
It was a floating steel box. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
That's where food deprivation would come in. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
We would hold back food and they would know | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
if they went in the module that they would get their food. So if they're hungry enough, they go in there. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:25 | |
And during the winter, that would be from five at night till seven in the morning. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
When you let them out, you'd see these new tooth rakes and sometimes you'd see blood. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
Closing that door on him | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
and knowing that he's locked in there for the whole night is like... | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
It's a stab, it's a... Whoa! | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
If that is true, it's not only inhumane and I'll tell them so, | 0:16:44 | 0:16:49 | |
but it probably led to what I think is a psychosis | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
that...he was on a hair-trigger. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
He'd...kill. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
SIRENS | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
'An employee is dead after an encounter...' | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
'..at a Canadian park called Sealand of the Pacific.' | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
'The victim, Keltie Byrne, was a championship swimmer | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
'and a part-time worker at Sealand.' | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
'As seen in this home video, rescuers used a huge net...' | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
'Rescue workers' efforts were hindered by the agitated whales.' | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
I'd like to make the team this summer, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
but my more immediate goal is just to swim fast at Nationals. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
It was sort of a cloudy, grey day | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
and we were looking for something to do, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
so we thought, why not go to Sealand? | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
It was kind of like this dingy pool with these whales. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
It just felt a little bit like an amusement park that was | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
kind of on its last legs and everything was a bit grey. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
-It was like a swimming pool. Three whales in a swimming pool. -Yeah. | 0:17:55 | 0:18:00 | |
And they would come up and touch the ball | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
and I think there was some tail splashing and there was... | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
-Some jumping. -With the fish. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
They hold the fish and the whales jump up. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
I remember saying, "What a fun job. She's so lucky." | 0:18:13 | 0:18:19 | |
And then I saw her walking with her rubber boots and she tripped | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
and her foot just dipped into the edge of the pool | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
and she lost her balance and fell in. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
And then she was pushing her way up to get out of the pool | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
and the whale zoomed over, grabbed her boot and pulled her back in. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
At first, I didn't think it was that serious because you see | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
the trainer in the pool with the whale and you think, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
"Oh, well. The whales are used to that." | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
And then all of a sudden, it started getting... | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
There was more swimming, more activity, more thrashing. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
And she was starting to get panicked and then as it progressed, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
you started to realise - something's not right here. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
She started to scream and she started looking around | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
and her eyes were like bigger and bigger and realising - | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
I really am in trouble here. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
And then they would pull her under. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
They would come up and then when she came up, she'd be, "Help me! | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
"Help me!" And then they'd take her down again. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
And she would be submerged for...several seconds, up to, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
I don't know, maybe a minute. You're not keeping track. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:23 | |
So it was harder and harder for her to, you know, get the air in | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
because she was screaming. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
And my sister remembers her saying, "I don't want to die." | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
Condolences to Keltie's family. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
Yeah. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:43 | |
We couldn't help her. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:44 | |
It was pretty wretched. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
Sealand closed, it's probably a good thing. I mean, it was a little pond. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:54 | |
I think the owner made the right decision, for whatever reasons. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:59 | |
I don't believe he's a bad guy, a bad man. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
I think he was shocked by the whole affair too. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
The blush was gone from the business and he decided that that was it. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:10 | |
We should set down. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
No-one ever contacted us. There was an inquest. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
No-one ever asked us to say what happened. We just left. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:20 | |
There was no big lawsuits afterwards. There's no memorial. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
The only thing remaining of Keltie Byrne... | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
..is what's left in the folk's minds who recalled the case. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
So in the newspaper articles, the cause of death was that she | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
drowned accidentally, but she was pulled under by the whale. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:41 | |
Well, there's a bit of smoke and mirrors going on. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
One of the fundamental facts is that none of the witnesses were clear | 0:20:43 | 0:20:48 | |
about which whale pulled Keltie in. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
Yes, yeah, it was the large whale, Tilikum. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
The male is the one that went after her. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
The other two just circled around, | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
but he was definitely the instigator. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
We knew it was that whale because he had a flopped over fin. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
It was very easy to tell. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
Sealand of the Pacific closed its doors and was looking, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
I guess, to make a buck on the way out. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
These whales are worth millions of dollars. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
When SeaWorld heard that Tilikum was available after this | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
accident at Sealand of the Pacific, they really wanted Tilikum | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
because they needed a breeder. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
So I don't even think that anybody was even questioning, like, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
"Is this a good idea?" | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
My understanding of the situation was that Tilikum and the others | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
would not be used in shows, they would not be performance animals. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
Our understanding of their behaviour was | 0:21:39 | 0:21:40 | |
that it was such a highly stimulating event for them | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
that they were likely to repeat it. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:44 | |
Sealand was... We were all young and a bit of sea cowboys. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
We weren't so technical and scientific as SeaWorld, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
so we all had this vision that they knew more than us | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
and they were better than us and Tilikum would have a bigger pool | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
and he'd have a better life, he would have better care, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
he would have better food and it'd be a great life for him. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
So it was like, "OK, Tilikum. You're going to Disneyland." | 0:22:00 | 0:22:05 | |
Lucky you. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:06 | |
The orca's intelligence may be even superior to man's. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
As parents, they are exemplary - better than many human beings. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
Like human beings, they have a profound instinct for vengeance. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
Dino De Laurentiis presents... | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
If you go back only 35 years, we knew nothing. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
In fact, less than nothing. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
What the public had was superstition and fear. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
A fight to the death... | 0:22:39 | 0:22:40 | |
..between the two most dangerous animals on Earth. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
Where the hell are you?! | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
These were the vicious killer whales that had 48 sharp teeth | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
that would rip you to shreds if they got a chance. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
What we learned is that they're amazingly friendly | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
and understanding, and intuitively want to be your companions. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:06 | |
Are you recording this? | 0:23:06 | 0:23:07 | |
And to this day there is no record of an orca doing any harm | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
to any human in the wild. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:15 | |
They live in these big families. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
And they have life spans very similar to human life spans. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
The females can live to about 100, maybe more. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
Males to about 50 or 60, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
but the adult offspring never leave their mother's side. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
Each community has a completely different set of behaviours. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:53 | |
Each has a complete repertoire of vocalisations with no overlap. | 0:23:55 | 0:24:00 | |
You could call them languages. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:03 | |
The scientific community is reluctant to say, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
any other animal but humans uses languages, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
but there's every indication that they use languages. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
The orca brain just screams out intelligence, awareness. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:17 | |
We took this tremendous brain | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
and we put it in a magnetic resonance imaging scanner. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
What we found was just astounding. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
They've got a part of the brain that humans don't have. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
A part of their brain has extended out | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
right adjacent to their limbic system. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
The system processes emotions. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
The safest inference would be - | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
these are animals that have highly elaborated emotional lives. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:46 | |
It's becoming clear that dolphins and whales have a sense of self, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
a sense of social bonding that they've taken to another level. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
Much stronger, much more complex than any other mammals, including humans. | 0:24:54 | 0:25:01 | |
We look at mass strandings, the fact that they stand by each other. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:06 | |
Everything about them is social. Everything. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
It's been suggested that their whole sense of self | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
is distributed among the individuals in their group. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
Five of them. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
These orca are going to attack this seal. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
They've been breaking the ice off and swimming around him. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
Oh, here they come, two of them. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:28 | |
Look, underneath there, you can see them underneath. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
They made a big wave. Look at that. Big wave. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
Oh, yeah. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
Oh, God. No! No, no! | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
Oh, I can't stand it. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:39 | |
If you can't watch the bull fight, you better leave. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
Here they go, look at this. Three of them. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
Oh, God. Oh, no! | 0:25:47 | 0:25:48 | |
-Oh, God! -It's all over. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
-No, not quite. -Nope. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:51 | |
Yeah, it's all over. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
It's all over. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:56 | |
The first nation's people and the old fishermen on the coast, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
they call them black fish. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:15 | |
They're an animal that possesses great spiritual power. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:21 | |
They're not to be meddled with. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
I've spent a lot of time around killer whales | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
and they're always in charge. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:31 | |
I never get out of the boat. I never mess with them. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
The speed and the power is quite amazing. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
The rules are the same as the pool hall - | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
keep one foot on the floor at all times. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
Even after seeing them thousands of times... | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
..you see them and you, you know, wake up. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
MACHINERY WHIRRS | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
He arrived, I think, in 1992. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
I was at Whale and Dolphin Stadium when he arrived. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
And he's twice as large as the next animal in the facility. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:28 | |
Guys, right in at about 12,000lbs. That's-that's incredible. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
He looks fantastic. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
When Tilikum arrived at SeaWorld, he was attacked viciously, | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
repeatedly, by Katina and others. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
In the wild, it's a very matriarchal society. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
Male whales are kept at the perimeter. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
In captivity, animals are squeezed into very close proximity. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:52 | |
Tilikum, the poor guy is so large he couldn't get away because | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
he just is not as mobile, relative to the smaller, more agile females. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:02 | |
Where was he going to run? There's no place to run. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
I think he spent a lot of time in isolation. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
SeaWorld claims that, "Oh, no, he's always in with the females," | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
but from what I saw he was mostly put with the females | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
for breeding purposes and he didn't spend a lot of time | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
with the other whales. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
It's for his own protection. You know, he gets beat up. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
And so, by segregating him, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
it provides a physical barrier so the females can't kick his butt. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
Tilikum is pretty much kept in the back | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
and then brought out at the very end as like the big splash. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
He was...always happy to see you in the morning. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
-There we go. -That's a boy. -Look at his chompers. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
'Maybe because he was alone, maybe because he was hungry, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
'maybe because he just liked you. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
'Who knows what was going on in his head?' | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
Want to whistle? | 0:28:53 | 0:28:54 | |
TILIKUM WHISTLES | 0:28:54 | 0:28:55 | |
That was really loud. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
Come on, big boy. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
He seemed to like to work, he seemed to be interested. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
He seemed to want to learn new things. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
He seemed to be enjoying working with the trainers. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
He, for me, was a joy. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
He really responded to me and I... | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
Every day I went to work, I was happy to see Tilly. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
That's cute. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:28 | |
You're being too cute. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
I never got the impression of him, while I was there, "Oh, my God. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:40 | |
"He's a scary whale." No, not at all. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
Maybe some of it's just our naivety or whatever. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
You know... | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
Because we weren't given the full details of Keltie's situation. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
Turn around. Smile, buddy. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
I was under the impression | 0:29:55 | 0:29:56 | |
that Tilikum had nothing to do with her death specifically, | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
that it was the female whales responsible for her death. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
What I found really odd at first was the way | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
they were acting round this whale and what they had told us | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
seemed to me to be two different things. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
The first day he arrived, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:09 | |
I remember one of the senior trainers at SeaWorld... | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
Tilikum was in a pool and she was walking over a gate. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
She had her wet suit unzipped and it was tied around her waist. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
She was making cooing noises and was going, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
"Hey, Tilikum, what a cute little whale." | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
She was just play talking at him and one of the supervisors said, | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
"Get her out of there!" Just screamed at her. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
"Get her away from there," | 0:30:29 | 0:30:30 | |
like they were so worried that something was going to happen. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
I remember thinking, "Why are you guys making such a big deal | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
"out of this when he didn't actually kill her?" | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
Well, clearly management thought that there was some reason | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
to exercise caution around him. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
Clearly they knew more than they were telling us. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, the next few behaviours you're going to be seeing, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
you can only see here right here at SeaWorld. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
Jeff was out in the audience, filming one of the Shamu shows. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
It was a perfect show. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
All the hot-dog sequences, the waterworks sequences went off great. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
I was really excited just to be capturing this | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
cos it was kind of turning out to be a great show. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
A show that's kind of complete. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
It probably only happens a few times a week. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
At the very end of the show, Liz was working Tilikum, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
and apparently Tilikum lunged out the water at her. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
I captured Tilikum coming out of the water, kind of turning sideways, | 0:31:25 | 0:31:29 | |
and appeared to me to try to grab Liz. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
At that moment, the tape became unusable. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
I was just kind of basically instructed to get rid of the tape. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
Wanting to kind of preserve the tape, I actually used the editing equipment | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
and snipped out that little half second or second | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
when he did that and stitched it back together, | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
so it just looked like a glitch in the tape. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
I was like, "Look at this." | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
And it was like, "No, this is no longer useable." | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
So we had to destroy the tape. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:55 | |
It's pretty outrageous that SeaWorld would claim | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
there was no expecting Tilikum to come out of the water | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
because they had witnessed him coming out of the water | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
and it's written into his profile. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
He lunges at trainers. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
When we visit SeaWorld, we tend to take for granted the fact | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
that Shamu has been provided with a safe and comfortable habitat. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
And everything trained is to make sense to them - | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
the killer whales' natural behaviour. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
I spewed out the party line during shows. I'm totally mortified now. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:05 | |
There was like, something like... "Look at Namu. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:10 | |
"Namu's not doing that because she has to. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
"Namu is doing this because she really wants to." | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
Oh, my gosh. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
Like, some of the things I'm embarrassed by. So embarrassed by. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
At the time, I think I could have convinced myself | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
that the relationships we had were built on something stronger | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
than the fact that I'm giving them fish. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
You know, I like to think that. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
But I don't know that that's the truth. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
I had been there a while and I had seen a few other things | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
along the way that made me question why I was there | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
and what we were doing with these animals. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
November 4th, 1988. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
A killer whale at SeaWorld gave the performance of a lifetime. | 0:33:55 | 0:34:00 | |
Don't miss this small miracle. Come see our new baby Shamu. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:12 | |
I know it was naive of me, but I thought that... | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
..it was our responsibility to do as much as we could | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
to keep their family units together | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
since we knew that, in the wild, that's what happens. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
# Yes, sir, that's our baby. # | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
Kalina was the first baby Shamu. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
Baby Shamu, SeaWorld's newest star. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
She had become quite disruptive and challenging her mum a little bit | 0:34:34 | 0:34:38 | |
and disrupting some shows and that kind of thing. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
# She's got the whole place jumping | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
# Shamu, she's our baby whale. # | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
It was decided by the higher-ups | 0:34:47 | 0:34:48 | |
that she would be moved to another park | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
when she was just four, four-and-a-half years old. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
That was news to us as trainers that were working with her. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
To me, it had never crossed my mind | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
that they might be moving the baby from her mom. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
The supervisors basically were kind of mocking me, | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
"Oh, you're saying, 'poor Kalina'?" You know? | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
"What's she going to do without her mommy?" | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
And that, of course, just shut me up. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
So the night of the move, we had to deploy the nets to separate them | 0:35:19 | 0:35:23 | |
and get Kalina, the baby, into the med pool. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
Katina was generally a quiet whale. She was not an overly vocal whale. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:31 | |
After Kalina was removed from the scene and put on the truck | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
and taken to the airport and Katina, her mum, was left in the pool, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:40 | |
she stayed in the corner of the pool, literally just shaking | 0:35:40 | 0:35:45 | |
and screaming, screeching, crying. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
I'd never seen her do anything like that. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
The other females in the pool, | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
maybe once or twice during the night, | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
they'd come out and check on her. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
She'd screech and cry and they would just run back. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
There was nothing that you could call that, watching it, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
besides grief. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
Those are not your whales. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
You know, you love them and you think, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
"I'm the one that touches them, feeds them, keeps them alive, | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
"gives them the care that they need." | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
They're not your whales. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:22 | |
They own them. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:23 | |
Kasatka and Takara were very close. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
Kasatka was the mother, Takara's the calf. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
Takara was special to me. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
They were inseparable. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
When they separated Kasatka and Takara, | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
it was to take Takara to Florida. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
Once Takara had already been stretchered out of the pool, | 0:36:41 | 0:36:46 | |
put on the truck, driven to the airport... | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
..Kasatka continued to make vocals that had never been heard before. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:56 | |
They brought in the senior research scientist to analyse the vocals. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
They were long-range vocals. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
She was trying something that no-one had even heard before - | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
looking for Takara. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
That's heartbreaking. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
How can anyone look at that | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
and think that that is morally acceptable? | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
It's not. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
It is not OK. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
Stand by, Dean. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
Let's go live to SeaWorld where Dean is joining us for a sneak peak. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
Hi, Dean, tell us about the new show. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
Good afternoon, Richard. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:35 | |
The new show is the Whale and Dolphin Discovery. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
What it does is it shows the relationship | 0:37:38 | 0:37:39 | |
we have between all our animals... | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
'There's so many things that were told to us' | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
that they tell you so many times that you start believing it. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
All the animals here get along very well. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
It's just like training your dog, really. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
'I was blind. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:53 | |
I was a kid, I didn't know what I was doing, really. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
-HE LAUGHS Nice! -Good job! | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, this is David from Maryland. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
Go ahead and wave at everyone, David. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
I just really bought into what they told us. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
I learned to say what they told us to the audience. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
Hello out there. Children are some of Shamu's biggest fans. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
We can do just about anything we want. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
I thought I knew everything about killer whales when I worked there. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
Everything about these animals. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:27 | |
I really know nothing about killer whales. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
I know a lot about being an animal trainer or a killer-whale trainer, | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
but I don't know anything about these animals' natural history | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
or their behaviour. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:36 | |
In some ways I believed a lot of what I was learning from them | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
because, "Why would they lie?" | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
Because the whales in their pools die young, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:45 | |
they like to say that all orcas die at 25 or 30 years. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:50 | |
-25-35 years. -25-35 years. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
They're documented in the wild living to be about 35, mid-30s. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:58 | |
They tend to live a lot longer in this environment | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
cos they have all the veterinary care. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
Of course, that's false. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:03 | |
We knew by 1980, after a half a dozen years of the research, | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
that they live the equivalent to human life spans. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
Every other potentially embarrassing fact is twisted and turned | 0:39:11 | 0:39:16 | |
and denied one way or another. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
-So in the wild they live...? -Less. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
Like the floppy dorsal fins. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:22 | |
25% of whales have a fin that turns over like that as they get older. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:27 | |
Dorsal collapse happens in less than 1% of wild killer whales. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:32 | |
We know this. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:33 | |
All the captive males, 100% have collapsed dorsal fins. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
And they say that they're a family | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
cos the whales are in their family, they have their pods. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
But that's just an artificial assemblage of their collection, | 0:39:42 | 0:39:47 | |
however management decides they should mix them. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
Whichever ones happen to be born or bought or brought in. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:55 | |
That's not a family. Come on. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
You've got animals from different cultural subsets | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
that have been brought in from various parks. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
These are different nations. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:04 | |
These aren't just two different killer whales. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
These animals, they've got different genes. They use different languages. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:11 | |
What can happen as a result of them | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
being thrown in with other whales that they haven't grown up with, | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
that are not part of their culture, is there's hyper aggression. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:23 | |
A lot of violence, | 0:40:25 | 0:40:26 | |
a lot of killing in captivity that you don't ever see in the wild. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
ANNOUNCER: For the health and safety of the animals, | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
please do not put your hands in the water. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
There was always this backdrop, | 0:40:36 | 0:40:37 | |
this underpinning of tension between animals. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
Whale-on-whale aggression was just part of the daily existence. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:47 | |
We ask that you use the stairs an aisleways as you exit. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
Please do not step on the seats. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
These areas may become wet and therefore slippery to some footwear. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
Thank you. | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
In the wild, when there's tension, they've got | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
thousands of square miles to exit the scene and they can get away. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:08 | |
You don't have that in captivity. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
Can you imagine being in a small concrete enclosure for your life | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
when you're used to swimming 100 miles a day? | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
Sometimes this aggression became very severe. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
In fact, whales have died in captivity | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
because of this aggression. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
I think it was 1988. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:29 | |
Kandu, trying to assert her dominance over Corky, rammed Corky. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:34 | |
It fractured her jaw, which cut an artery in her head | 0:41:34 | 0:41:38 | |
and then she bled out. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
That's got to be a hard way to go down. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
I saw that there were just a lot of things that weren't right. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
There was a lot of misinformation. Something was amiss. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:55 | |
I sort of compartmentalised that part of it | 0:41:55 | 0:41:57 | |
and did the best that I could with the knowledge that I had | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
to take care of the animals that were there. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
I think all the trainers there have the same thing in their heart - | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
they're trying to make a difference in the lives of the animals. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
You think, "If I leave, who's going to take care of Tilikum?" | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
That's why I stayed, cos I felt sorry for Tilikum. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
I mean, if you want to get down to the nuts and the bolts of it, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
I stayed because I felt sorry for Tilikum. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
I couldn't bring myself to stop coming | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
and trying to take care of him. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:25 | |
Gosh, do I love coming out here every day | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
and having the audience just love what we're doing with the animals? | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
How do I make this animal as beautiful as they are | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
and have people walk away loving this animal? | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
They're touched and they're moved | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
and I feel like I made a difference to them. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
I left in January of 2010. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
A month before Dawn passed away. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
She was like a safety guru. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
She was always double-checking, | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
making sure that everyone was doing the right thing. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
She would record every show that she did and she would watch it | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
and critique herself. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
And she was constantly trying to be better. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
When I found out it was Dawn, I was shocked. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:18 | |
That could have been me, I could have been the spotter. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
What if I was there and I could have saved her? | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
All these things go through your mind. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
John Sillick is the guy who, in 1987, | 0:43:38 | 0:43:40 | |
was crushed between two whales at SeaWorld of San Diego. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:44 | |
Now, even though I'd been working at SeaWorld for six months, | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
I had no idea that that had even happened. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
I never even heard that story. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:50 | |
The SeaWorld party line was that it was a trainer error. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:53 | |
It was John's fault. He was supposed to get off that whale. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:57 | |
For years, I believed that. I told people that. | 0:43:57 | 0:43:59 | |
I actually started at SeaWorld five days after that event occurred. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:12 | |
We weren't told much about it, other than it was trainer error. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
Especially when you're new into the programme, | 0:44:17 | 0:44:20 | |
you don't really question a whole lot. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:22 | |
Years later, when you look at the footage, you go, | 0:44:22 | 0:44:24 | |
"He didn't do anything wrong. That whale just landed on him." | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
That whale just went to the wrong spot. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
It could have been aggression, who knows? | 0:44:29 | 0:44:31 | |
But it was not the trainer's fault at all, watching that video. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
When I saw the video of the killer whale landing on John, | 0:44:38 | 0:44:42 | |
it just absolutely took my breath away. I gasped. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
I watched it two or three times and every time I saw that, | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
I just gasped. I could not believe what I was seeing. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
What kept his body together is his wet suit basically held him together. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:52 | |
I know he's had multiple surgeries | 0:44:52 | 0:44:54 | |
and he's got tonnes of hardware in his body. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:56 | |
It's hard for me to believe that I didn't actually see that video | 0:44:56 | 0:44:59 | |
while I was actually an animal trainer, | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
cos it seems to me that every person who works with killer whales | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
should have to watch that video. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:06 | |
Tamarie. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:13 | |
Tamarie made mistakes. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:15 | |
The most important one was interacting with whales | 0:45:15 | 0:45:18 | |
without a spotter. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:19 | |
So she's putting her foot on Orkid. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:24 | |
She's taking her foot off, she's putting her foot on Orkid, | 0:45:24 | 0:45:27 | |
her rostrum, she's taking it off. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:29 | |
Watching the video knowing Orkid, your stomach drops | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
because you know what's probably going to happen. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
She grabbed her foot. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:38 | |
Tamarie whips around and she grabs the gate. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:41 | |
You see her just ripped from the gate. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:43 | |
At this point, Tamarie knows that she's in trouble. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
She's under the water. Splash and Orkid both have her. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:52 | |
She's totally out of view. No other trainer knows that this is happening. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:56 | |
People start to scream, you know, the park guest that was filming it. | 0:45:56 | 0:46:00 | |
You hear... You don't see her, but you hear Tamarie surface. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:06 | |
You hear her just scream out, "Somebody, help me!" | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
The way she screamed it was just such a blood-curdling... | 0:46:09 | 0:46:14 | |
She knew she was going to die. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:16 | |
Rob, when he ran over, he made a brilliant decision. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:21 | |
He told the trainer to run and take the chain off Kasatka's gate. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:24 | |
By taking that chain off, it would give the precursor to Orkid | 0:46:25 | 0:46:28 | |
that Kasatka was coming in. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:30 | |
Kasatka's more dominant than Orkid, so Orkid let her go. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:36 | |
Her arm...it was U-shaped. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
It was compound-fractured. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:42 | |
She's very lucky to be alive, that's for sure. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
I believe it's 70 plus, maybe even more. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:03 | |
Just killer whale trainer accidents. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
Maybe 30 of them happened actually prior to me being hired at SeaWorld. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:09 | |
And I knew about none of them. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
I've seen animals come out at trainers. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
Something's wrong. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:23 | |
I've seen people get slammed. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
The whales...either they're just playing | 0:47:38 | 0:47:40 | |
or they're upset for a second. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:42 | |
It was just something that happened, you know? | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
There was this culture of, | 0:47:52 | 0:47:53 | |
"You get back on the horse and you dive back in the water. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
"If you're hurt, then we've got other people that will replace you. | 0:47:56 | 0:48:00 | |
"You came a long way, are you sure you want that?" | 0:48:00 | 0:48:02 | |
A SeaWorld trainer is recovering today after a terrifying ordeal | 0:48:11 | 0:48:14 | |
in front of a horrified audience. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
For some reason, the whale just took a different approach | 0:48:41 | 0:48:45 | |
to what it was going to do with | 0:48:45 | 0:48:47 | |
a very senior, very experienced trainer, Ken Peters, | 0:48:47 | 0:48:50 | |
and dragged him to the bottom of the pool and held him in the bottom. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:54 | |
Let him go. Picked him up, took him down again. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:59 | |
And these periods he was taken down were pretty close to the mark. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:10 | |
You know, a minute, a minute 20. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
When he was at the surface, he didn't panic, | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
he didn't thrash, he didn't scream. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
Maybe he's just built that way. But he stroked the whale. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:27 | |
The whale let go of one foot and grabbed the other. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
That's a pretty deep pool. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:53 | |
He took him right down. I think that's to two atmospheres' pressure. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:57 | |
Apparently, Mr Peters is an experienced scuba diver | 0:49:57 | 0:50:00 | |
and I think that knowledge probably contributed to how he was able | 0:50:00 | 0:50:03 | |
to be hauled down there that quickly and stay calm and know what to do. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:07 | |
He knew what he was doing. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:11 | |
You can see him in the film - the def is so good - see him ventilating. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:14 | |
See him ventilating really hard. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
So he knows about swimming and diving and being underwater. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
He may have been assuming he was going under again. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:23 | |
I did not walk away unimpressed by his... | 0:50:23 | 0:50:25 | |
his calm demeanour during that whole affair. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:28 | |
I would be scared shitless. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
He was near to the end. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:53 | |
Presumably, Ken Peters had a relationship with this whale. | 0:50:55 | 0:51:00 | |
Maybe he did - maybe that's what saved him - | 0:51:00 | 0:51:02 | |
but Peters got the whale to let him go... | 0:51:02 | 0:51:06 | |
..and they strung a net across. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:09 | |
And Ken Peters pulled himself over the float line | 0:51:18 | 0:51:22 | |
and swam like a demon to a slide-out, | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
because the whale was coming | 0:51:25 | 0:51:26 | |
right behind him! | 0:51:26 | 0:51:28 | |
The whale jumped over it and came after him! | 0:51:28 | 0:51:30 | |
He tried to stand up and run but his feet were damaged. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:34 | |
He just fell. He scrambled. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:36 | |
They take this as a prime example of their training working. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:40 | |
They say, well, "Stand back and stay calm" and that did work. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:46 | |
They claim this as a victory of how they do business. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:51 | |
And...maybe so. But it can also be interpreted | 0:51:56 | 0:51:59 | |
as a hair's-breadth away from another fatality. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:03 | |
-ALL: -Hi, Shamu! Hi, everybody. We're the Johnsons from Detroit, Michigan. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:13 | |
We had a great time when we visited SeaWorld! | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
It's one of our favourite places. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:17 | |
Yeah! I like the part where Shamu gets everybody wet! | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
When the whales get close to the glass, | 0:52:20 | 0:52:23 | |
and start kicking up the water? | 0:52:23 | 0:52:24 | |
Whamo! You're a goner! | 0:52:24 | 0:52:26 | |
SQUEALING | 0:52:27 | 0:52:31 | |
Orange County's sheriff deputies have identified the 27-year-old man | 0:52:35 | 0:52:39 | |
found dead in a killer whale's tank at SeaWorld. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:42 | |
The victim is Daniel P Dukes from South Carolina. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:46 | |
Dukes was found yesterday draped over the back of Tilikum - | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
the largest orca held in captivity. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:51 | |
All I know is the public relations version of it. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
He was a young man that had been arrested | 0:52:55 | 0:52:58 | |
not long before he snuck into SeaWorld. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:00 | |
Maybe he climbed the barbed wire fence around the perimeter, | 0:53:00 | 0:53:03 | |
and stayed after-hours. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:05 | |
Perfect storyline - a mentally disturbed guy | 0:53:05 | 0:53:09 | |
hides in the park after hours, and strips his clothes off | 0:53:09 | 0:53:12 | |
and decides he wants to have a magical experience with an orca, | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
and drowns because he became hypothermic. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
Right. So, that's the story line, | 0:53:18 | 0:53:19 | |
and none of us were there to know the difference. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
He was not detected by the night-watch trainers | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
who were presumably at that station. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
There are cameras all over SeaWorld, | 0:53:27 | 0:53:29 | |
there are cameras all over the back of Shamu Stadium, | 0:53:29 | 0:53:31 | |
pointing every which way. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:33 | |
There are underwater cameras. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:35 | |
I find it hard to believe that nobody knew | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
until the morning that there was a body in there. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:40 | |
They have a night-watch trainer every night. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:43 | |
That person didn't hear any splashing or screaming? | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
I mean, I just find that really suspicious. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
One of the employees - | 0:53:49 | 0:53:51 | |
I don't know if it was a physical therapist or somebody, | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
was coming in in the morning and there was Tilikum | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
with a dead, naked guy on his back... | 0:53:57 | 0:53:59 | |
parading him around the back pool. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:04 | |
The public relations spin on this | 0:54:04 | 0:54:06 | |
was that he was kind of a drifter and died of hypothermia, | 0:54:06 | 0:54:10 | |
but the medical examiner reports were more graphic than that. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:16 | |
Tilikum stripped him, bit off his genitals, | 0:54:16 | 0:54:20 | |
there was bite marks all over his body. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:23 | |
Now, whether that was post death or pre-death I don't know, | 0:54:23 | 0:54:27 | |
but all I can comment on | 0:54:27 | 0:54:29 | |
is that the guy definitely jumped in the wrong pool. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
So why keep Tilikum there? | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
This guy, he's got a proven track record of killing people. | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
He's clearly a liability to the institution. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:47 | |
Why keep him around? Well, it's quite simple. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
The answer is that his semen is worth a lot of money. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:52 | |
Over the years, Tilikum has been | 0:55:02 | 0:55:04 | |
one of the main breeding whales at SeaWorld. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
It's brilliant, because they can inseminate way more female whales | 0:55:10 | 0:55:13 | |
because they can just get his sperm and freeze it. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
He's basically operating as a sperm bank. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:19 | |
In a reputable breeding programme, | 0:55:19 | 0:55:21 | |
rule number one is you certainly would not breed an animal | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
that has shown a history of aggression towards humans. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
Imagine if you had a pit bull who had killed - | 0:55:27 | 0:55:31 | |
that animal would've likely been put down. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:32 | |
But in the entire SeaWorld collection... | 0:55:32 | 0:55:34 | |
it's like 54% of the whales in SeaWorld's collection | 0:55:34 | 0:55:37 | |
now have Tilikum's genes. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:40 | |
CROWD APPLAUDS | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
The fall is to assume that all killer whales are like Tilikum. | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
You have to look at their learning history from birth. | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
You have to understand why Tilikum was a hazard | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
to anybody in the water. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
And you have to understand that none of the other killer whales | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
at SeaWorld, or in that system, are that way. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:08 | |
What about the incident at Loro Parque? | 0:56:08 | 0:56:10 | |
First of all, I can't... | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
I can't...speak with specificity about Loro Parque. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:14 | |
I wasn't there. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:16 | |
I... I... In fact, I know very little about it. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:20 | |
Probably about as much as the general public knows. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:23 | |
SPEAKS SPANISH | 0:56:47 | 0:56:51 | |
Loro Parque is in the Canary Islands, | 0:57:23 | 0:57:25 | |
which is an autonomous region of Spain. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:28 | |
It's the largest tourist attraction in all of Spain. | 0:57:28 | 0:57:31 | |
TRAINER SPEAKS SPANISH | 0:57:31 | 0:57:34 | |
And when SeaWorld sent the orcas to Loro Parque | 0:57:36 | 0:57:39 | |
everybody was always questioning, like, | 0:57:39 | 0:57:42 | |
how did they make that leap to send four young orcas | 0:57:42 | 0:57:46 | |
to a park off the west coast of Africa with trainers who, | 0:57:46 | 0:57:51 | |
a lot of them, had never been around orcas before. | 0:57:51 | 0:57:54 | |
Nothing was ready. The venue wasn't ready. | 0:57:56 | 0:58:00 | |
It wasn't ready for the orcas, it wasn't ready for a show. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:02 | |
The owner of the park didn't want to lose revenue | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
by shutting down the pools and repairing them. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:08 | |
So for three years, the animals ate the pools, | 0:58:08 | 0:58:10 | |
and for three years the animals had problems - | 0:58:10 | 0:58:12 | |
with their teeth, with their stomachs. | 0:58:12 | 0:58:15 | |
So that's the reason why these animals were enduring | 0:58:15 | 0:58:17 | |
the endoscope procedures. | 0:58:17 | 0:58:19 | |
Those are still SeaWorld's animals. | 0:58:21 | 0:58:24 | |
They are responsible for those animals. | 0:58:24 | 0:58:27 | |
HIGH PITCHED CALL | 0:58:27 | 0:58:31 | |
CLICKS AND WHINES | 0:58:32 | 0:58:35 | |
Loro Parque doesn't have a good reputation. | 0:58:35 | 0:58:38 | |
People that work in the business know the reputation of places | 0:58:38 | 0:58:42 | |
and Loro Parque does not have a good reputation. | 0:58:42 | 0:58:45 | |
They didn't spend the same amount of time as the SeaWorld trainers. | 0:58:45 | 0:58:48 | |
Did not go through the same regimen SeaWorld trainers went through. | 0:58:48 | 0:58:53 | |
Alexis really was the best trainer. | 0:58:53 | 0:58:56 | |
And I did say, "You're the only trainer there | 0:58:56 | 0:58:59 | |
"that can hold its own with a SeaWorld trainer." | 0:58:59 | 0:59:02 | |
And I said "But you need to be careful." | 0:59:02 | 0:59:04 | |
Anywhere along the line it could've been stopped. | 0:59:36 | 0:59:39 | |
Because everyone knew it was a tragedy waiting to happen. | 0:59:39 | 0:59:42 | |
But no-one did anything about it. | 0:59:42 | 0:59:44 | |
And in the end, it was the best trainer who lost his life. | 0:59:44 | 0:59:48 | |
Those were SeaWorld's whales. | 1:02:00 | 1:02:02 | |
They were trained using SeaWorld's techniques. | 1:02:02 | 1:02:05 | |
And their training was being supervised at the time | 1:02:05 | 1:02:09 | |
of the fatal accident | 1:02:09 | 1:02:11 | |
by one of their senior trainers from San Diego. | 1:02:11 | 1:02:13 | |
For somebody to get up and say in a court of law | 1:02:35 | 1:02:38 | |
that they have no knowledge | 1:02:38 | 1:02:40 | |
of the linkages between SeaWorld and this park in Tenerife is, well,... | 1:02:40 | 1:02:45 | |
..either she doesn't know and is telling the truth, | 1:02:48 | 1:02:50 | |
or it's just a bald-faced lie. | 1:02:50 | 1:02:52 | |
As trainers, we never forget Shamu's true potential. | 1:02:55 | 1:02:59 | |
We see it each and every day. | 1:02:59 | 1:03:01 | |
That's why all of our interactions are very carefully thought out, | 1:03:01 | 1:03:04 | |
especially our water work interac... WHOA! | 1:03:04 | 1:03:07 | |
HE LAUGHS | 1:03:13 | 1:03:16 | |
..especially our water work interactions, | 1:03:18 | 1:03:20 | |
because they're potentially the most dangerous. | 1:03:20 | 1:03:22 | |
I'd been expecting it since the second person was killed. | 1:03:22 | 1:03:26 | |
I'd been expecting somebody to be killed by Tilikum. | 1:03:26 | 1:03:29 | |
I'm surprised it took as long as it did. | 1:03:29 | 1:03:31 | |
First tonight, a six-ton killer whale has lived up to its name - | 1:03:31 | 1:03:35 | |
killing an experienced trainer at SeaWorld Orlando today. | 1:03:35 | 1:03:38 | |
A tourist at an earlier show said the animal seemed agitated. | 1:03:38 | 1:03:42 | |
Trainers complained the whales weren't co-operating. | 1:03:42 | 1:03:45 | |
The whole show - the main show - was a disaster that day. | 1:03:45 | 1:03:49 | |
There was whales chasing each other. | 1:03:49 | 1:03:51 | |
Eventually, the trainers decided they had to stop the show | 1:03:51 | 1:03:53 | |
because they couldn't get the whales under control. | 1:03:53 | 1:03:55 | |
Tilikum was in the back pool | 1:03:55 | 1:03:58 | |
set up to do a Dine With Shamu performance with Dawn. | 1:03:58 | 1:04:02 | |
Likely she saw what had gone on during the main show | 1:04:02 | 1:04:06 | |
and so she probably felt more pressure to do a good show. | 1:04:06 | 1:04:10 | |
When you watch the whole video, | 1:04:13 | 1:04:14 | |
you can see that Tilikum is really with Dawn | 1:04:14 | 1:04:17 | |
in the beginning of the video. | 1:04:17 | 1:04:19 | |
There's a couple of behaviours that she asks him to do, | 1:04:22 | 1:04:25 | |
where Tilikum just jumps right in | 1:04:25 | 1:04:27 | |
and he does exactly what she asks him to do. | 1:04:27 | 1:04:30 | |
There seemed to be a point in the session | 1:04:35 | 1:04:37 | |
where things went south, so to speak. | 1:04:37 | 1:04:39 | |
And in my humble opinion it was at that missed bridge - whistle bridge - | 1:04:39 | 1:04:44 | |
on the perimeter pec wave. | 1:04:44 | 1:04:46 | |
She asked him to do a perimeter pec wave - | 1:04:46 | 1:04:49 | |
where she asked him to, basically, go all the way around the pool | 1:04:49 | 1:04:53 | |
and wave his pectoral flipper. | 1:04:53 | 1:04:55 | |
And she blows her whistle... | 1:04:56 | 1:04:59 | |
which is a bridge which tells the animal that - | 1:04:59 | 1:05:02 | |
"OK, you've done a good job, come back and get food." | 1:05:02 | 1:05:04 | |
But he missed that cue. | 1:05:04 | 1:05:06 | |
And he went all the way around the pool on this perimeter pec wave. | 1:05:10 | 1:05:14 | |
My interpretation is that he didn't hear the whistle. | 1:05:17 | 1:05:19 | |
So not only did he not hear the bridge, | 1:05:19 | 1:05:22 | |
then he went and did a perfect behaviour and came back | 1:05:22 | 1:05:24 | |
and what he got was what we call three-second neutral response - | 1:05:24 | 1:05:27 | |
which is a way to let the animal know | 1:05:27 | 1:05:29 | |
"No, you didn't do the correct thing, | 1:05:29 | 1:05:31 | |
"you're not going to get rewarded, and then we move on." | 1:05:31 | 1:05:33 | |
And you can also see through the video | 1:05:33 | 1:05:35 | |
that Dawn is running out of food. | 1:05:35 | 1:05:38 | |
The animals can sense when you're getting to the | 1:05:38 | 1:05:40 | |
bottom of your bucket of fish, | 1:05:40 | 1:05:42 | |
because they can hear the ice clanging around | 1:05:42 | 1:05:44 | |
in the fishy, soupy water at the bottom. | 1:05:44 | 1:05:46 | |
And the handfuls of fish that they're getting delivered | 1:05:46 | 1:05:49 | |
by the trainer are all getting smaller. | 1:05:49 | 1:05:51 | |
So they know that they're coming down to the end of session. | 1:05:51 | 1:05:55 | |
When you see the difference between | 1:05:55 | 1:05:56 | |
the beginning and the end of the video, | 1:05:56 | 1:05:58 | |
you can see that he is just not quite on his game any more. | 1:05:58 | 1:06:02 | |
There was no food left, | 1:06:02 | 1:06:03 | |
she kept asking for more and more behaviours, | 1:06:03 | 1:06:06 | |
he wasn't getting reinforced for the behaviours he was doing correctly - | 1:06:06 | 1:06:09 | |
he probably was frustrated towards the end. | 1:06:09 | 1:06:11 | |
And then she walked around the perimeter of G pool. | 1:06:14 | 1:06:17 | |
He followed her. | 1:06:17 | 1:06:19 | |
And then continued over into the rocky ledge area | 1:06:23 | 1:06:26 | |
where she lay down with him | 1:06:26 | 1:06:28 | |
to do a relationship session. | 1:06:28 | 1:06:30 | |
Which is quiet time, basically. | 1:06:30 | 1:06:33 | |
Tilikum, at some point, grabbed a hold of her left forearm | 1:06:34 | 1:06:37 | |
and started to drag her, | 1:06:37 | 1:06:38 | |
and eventually did a barrel roll and pulled her in. | 1:06:38 | 1:06:41 | |
It may have started as play, | 1:06:41 | 1:06:43 | |
or frustration, and clearly it escalated to be | 1:06:43 | 1:06:46 | |
very violent behaviour, | 1:06:46 | 1:06:48 | |
that I think was anything but play. | 1:06:48 | 1:06:51 | |
In the end, he even, basically, just completely mutilated | 1:06:51 | 1:06:54 | |
that poor girl. | 1:06:54 | 1:06:56 | |
They were gathering all of the trainers at the Texas Park. | 1:06:59 | 1:07:02 | |
He said there's been an accident at the Florida Park, | 1:07:02 | 1:07:07 | |
and a trainer was killed. | 1:07:07 | 1:07:09 | |
Hearing that it was Dawn, I was... I couldn't believe it. | 1:07:11 | 1:07:14 | |
I just remember saying to myself "Not Dawn, it can't be Dawn." | 1:07:14 | 1:07:18 | |
He said that, erm... "..and he still has her." | 1:07:18 | 1:07:21 | |
And I just... | 1:07:22 | 1:07:24 | |
..was so disturbed by that | 1:07:25 | 1:07:27 | |
and the reality of how powerless we are. | 1:07:27 | 1:07:31 | |
Avulsion, laceration, abrasion, fractures. | 1:07:31 | 1:07:35 | |
Fractures and associated haemorrhages. | 1:07:35 | 1:07:37 | |
Blunt-force traumas | 1:07:37 | 1:07:40 | |
to the main body, to the extremities. | 1:07:40 | 1:07:43 | |
To see this meted out against a trainer, | 1:07:43 | 1:07:46 | |
and I cannot fathom the reason. | 1:07:46 | 1:07:49 | |
It's shocking. | 1:07:49 | 1:07:50 | |
A lawyer for OSHA asked me what I thought we'd learned, | 1:07:52 | 1:07:56 | |
and I was sitting in the courtroom | 1:07:56 | 1:07:59 | |
and I've got the Keltie Byrne case file in one hand, | 1:07:59 | 1:08:01 | |
and I've got Dawn Brancheau in the other, | 1:08:01 | 1:08:04 | |
and they are almost to-the-day 20 years apart | 1:08:04 | 1:08:07 | |
and I'm looking at these two things - my only answer is "Nothing". | 1:08:07 | 1:08:10 | |
In fact, it's not a damn thing. | 1:08:10 | 1:08:12 | |
We have not learned a damn thing | 1:08:12 | 1:08:13 | |
for something like that to happen 20 years apart. | 1:08:13 | 1:08:17 | |
Could you tell us if it was an accident, or if this...? | 1:08:17 | 1:08:19 | |
Did this female trainer work with this whale on a regular...? | 1:08:19 | 1:08:22 | |
What apparently happened was we had a female trainer | 1:08:22 | 1:08:25 | |
back in the whale-holding area. | 1:08:25 | 1:08:27 | |
She apparently slipped or fell into the tank, | 1:08:27 | 1:08:29 | |
and was fatally injured by one of the whales. | 1:08:29 | 1:08:31 | |
At first, SeaWorld reported that a trainer slipped and fell | 1:08:31 | 1:08:34 | |
in the water and was drowned. | 1:08:34 | 1:08:36 | |
So that was the first report. | 1:08:36 | 1:08:38 | |
It wasn't until eyewitness accounts disputed that | 1:08:38 | 1:08:40 | |
that they had to go back in their huddle and say, | 1:08:40 | 1:08:42 | |
"We gotta come up with a new plan." | 1:08:42 | 1:08:44 | |
SeaWorld has confirmed the killer whale | 1:08:44 | 1:08:46 | |
pulled the woman into the water. | 1:08:46 | 1:08:48 | |
She didn't fall into the tank, | 1:08:48 | 1:08:50 | |
as the Sheriff's Department initially reported. | 1:08:50 | 1:08:52 | |
The new plan is that... he grabbed her ponytail. | 1:08:52 | 1:08:55 | |
This is a subtle way of placing the blame on Dawn's shoulders. | 1:08:55 | 1:08:58 | |
She shouldn't have had a long ponytail, | 1:08:58 | 1:09:01 | |
or if she did have that ponytail it should've been up in a bun. | 1:09:01 | 1:09:03 | |
Dawn, if she was standing here with me right now, | 1:09:03 | 1:09:06 | |
would tell you that it was her... That was her mistake. | 1:09:06 | 1:09:09 | |
In allowing that to happen. | 1:09:09 | 1:09:11 | |
They blamed her. | 1:09:11 | 1:09:12 | |
How dare you! | 1:09:12 | 1:09:15 | |
How disrespectful for you to blame her | 1:09:15 | 1:09:18 | |
when she's not even alive to defend herself. | 1:09:18 | 1:09:22 | |
He grabbed her ponytail and pulled her into the water. | 1:09:22 | 1:09:25 | |
That's as simple as it gets. | 1:09:25 | 1:09:26 | |
There are photographs of plenty of other trainers | 1:09:26 | 1:09:29 | |
doing exactly the same thing that she was doing. | 1:09:29 | 1:09:31 | |
So, I knew that SeaWorld was lying about the fact | 1:09:31 | 1:09:33 | |
that this was her fault. | 1:09:33 | 1:09:35 | |
The ponytail in all likelihood is just a tale. | 1:09:35 | 1:09:38 | |
Erm... | 1:09:38 | 1:09:39 | |
The safety spotter, who apparently didn't actually see the take-down, | 1:09:39 | 1:09:43 | |
came up with that. | 1:09:43 | 1:09:45 | |
And during the spotter's testimony, | 1:09:47 | 1:09:49 | |
OSHA pushed him to say that he wasn't really sure | 1:09:49 | 1:09:51 | |
that it was her ponytail that was in the whale's mouth, | 1:09:51 | 1:09:54 | |
that he just saw her underwater and he assumed it was the ponytail. | 1:09:54 | 1:09:57 | |
OSHA contends that the whale came up and grabbed Dawn Brancheau's arm, | 1:09:57 | 1:10:01 | |
saying that that was another level of aggressiveness. | 1:10:01 | 1:10:04 | |
SeaWorld is saying it was not an aggressive move. | 1:10:04 | 1:10:07 | |
One of SeaWorld's top curators, Chuck Tompkins, | 1:10:07 | 1:10:09 | |
said when Dawn Brancheau was pulled off the ledge | 1:10:09 | 1:10:11 | |
it wasn't necessarily aggressive behaviour by the whale. | 1:10:11 | 1:10:14 | |
The initial grab was not an act of aggression. | 1:10:14 | 1:10:17 | |
This is not a crazed animal. | 1:10:17 | 1:10:20 | |
The industry has a vested interest in spinning these | 1:10:20 | 1:10:23 | |
so that the animals continue to appear like... | 1:10:23 | 1:10:26 | |
cuddly teddy bears that are completely safe, you know? | 1:10:26 | 1:10:29 | |
'That sells a lot of Shamu dolls, it sells a lot of tickets at the gate,' | 1:10:29 | 1:10:32 | |
and...that's the storyline that they're going to stick with | 1:10:32 | 1:10:35 | |
for as long as they can. | 1:10:35 | 1:10:37 | |
Recognise that those that say this is a crazed animal that acted out | 1:10:54 | 1:10:59 | |
and grabbed on maliciously, | 1:10:59 | 1:11:02 | |
they want to prove the theorem that captivity makes animals crazy, | 1:11:02 | 1:11:07 | |
and that is just false. | 1:11:07 | 1:11:09 | |
All whales in captivity have a bad life, | 1:11:09 | 1:11:11 | |
they're all emotionally destroyed, | 1:11:11 | 1:11:13 | |
they're all psychologically traumatised. | 1:11:13 | 1:11:16 | |
So they are ticking time bombs. It's not just Tilikum. | 1:11:16 | 1:11:20 | |
We have to separate what happened to Dawn, | 1:11:20 | 1:11:23 | |
and, as tragic as it is, no-one wants to ever see it happen again. | 1:11:23 | 1:11:26 | |
Can SeaWorld create an environment where it never happens again? | 1:11:26 | 1:11:30 | |
Yes, I absolutely believe they can. | 1:11:30 | 1:11:32 | |
What if there were no SeaWorlds? | 1:11:35 | 1:11:37 | |
I can't imagine a society with the value we put on marine mammals | 1:11:37 | 1:11:41 | |
if those parks didn't exist. | 1:11:41 | 1:11:43 | |
I'm not at all interested in having my daughter, who is 3½, | 1:11:43 | 1:11:48 | |
grow up thinking that it's normalised | 1:11:48 | 1:11:51 | |
'to have these intelligent, highly evolved animals | 1:11:51 | 1:11:54 | |
'in concrete pools.' | 1:11:54 | 1:11:55 | |
I don't want her to think that's how we treat the kin | 1:11:55 | 1:11:58 | |
'that we find ourselves around on this planet.' | 1:11:58 | 1:12:01 | |
I think it's atrocious. | 1:12:01 | 1:12:02 | |
This hearing's expected to last all week, | 1:12:02 | 1:12:04 | |
with OSHA continuing to work towards this theory | 1:12:04 | 1:12:07 | |
that SeaWorld knew there was a calculated risk of injury or death | 1:12:07 | 1:12:11 | |
'but put trainers in the water with the whales anyway, | 1:12:11 | 1:12:13 | |
'while SeaWorld will say that Dawn Brancheau's death | 1:12:13 | 1:12:16 | |
'was an isolated incident.' | 1:12:16 | 1:12:18 | |
Reporting live at Seminole County, Dave McDaniel, WESH 2 News. | 1:12:18 | 1:12:21 | |
There's something wrong, you know, with Tilikum, that there's... | 1:12:30 | 1:12:34 | |
There is something wrong, and that's, uh... | 1:12:34 | 1:12:36 | |
When you have a relationship with that animal and you... | 1:12:36 | 1:12:39 | |
HE SNIFFS | 1:12:39 | 1:12:41 | |
..you understand that he's killing not to be a savage, | 1:12:41 | 1:12:45 | |
'he's not killing cos he's just crazy, | 1:12:45 | 1:12:48 | |
'he's not killing cos he doesn't know what he's doing. | 1:12:48 | 1:12:50 | |
'He's killing because he's frustrated and he's got aggravations | 1:12:50 | 1:12:55 | |
'and he doesn't know how to... | 1:12:55 | 1:12:58 | |
'He has no outlet for it.' | 1:12:58 | 1:13:01 | |
'Now, Tilikum is spending a great deal of time by himself' | 1:13:01 | 1:13:04 | |
and basically floating lifeless in a pool. | 1:13:04 | 1:13:08 | |
-WOMAN: -Three hours now... | 1:13:09 | 1:13:11 | |
and he hasn't moved. | 1:13:11 | 1:13:14 | |
They try to sugar-coat it by saying, | 1:13:14 | 1:13:16 | |
"He comes out in the front pool every once in a while. He's doing shows." | 1:13:16 | 1:13:19 | |
You know what he does in his show? | 1:13:19 | 1:13:21 | |
'He does a few bows,' | 1:13:21 | 1:13:24 | |
then he goes back in to his little...jail cell. | 1:13:24 | 1:13:27 | |
That's his life. | 1:13:27 | 1:13:30 | |
'I feel sad for Tilikum.' | 1:13:30 | 1:13:32 | |
A regal thing like him, | 1:13:32 | 1:13:34 | |
'swimming around a tank with his fin flopped over like that. | 1:13:34 | 1:13:38 | |
'Compared to a wild bull killer whale that size,' | 1:13:38 | 1:13:40 | |
which is one of the most kinetic and dynamic things you can imagine. | 1:13:40 | 1:13:44 | |
'I feel sad when I see him.' | 1:13:47 | 1:13:49 | |
'It's time to stop the shows, | 1:13:55 | 1:13:57 | |
'it's time to stop forcing the animals to perform in basically a circus environment,' | 1:13:57 | 1:14:01 | |
and they should release the animals that are young and healthy enough | 1:14:01 | 1:14:04 | |
to be released, and the animals like Tilikum who are old and sick | 1:14:04 | 1:14:07 | |
'and have put in 25 years in the industry should be released' | 1:14:07 | 1:14:10 | |
to an open ocean pen so they can live out their lives | 1:14:10 | 1:14:12 | |
and experience the natural rhythms of the ocean. | 1:14:12 | 1:14:14 | |
This is a multibillion-dollar corporation that makes its money | 1:14:14 | 1:14:17 | |
'through the exploitation of orcas.' | 1:14:17 | 1:14:20 | |
They're not suitable to have in captivity. | 1:14:20 | 1:14:22 | |
The whales are really bored. | 1:14:22 | 1:14:25 | |
'You deprive them of all this environmental stimulation.' | 1:14:25 | 1:14:29 | |
'I think that in 50 years we'll look back and go,' | 1:14:29 | 1:14:32 | |
"My God, what a barbaric time." | 1:14:32 | 1:14:34 | |
Dawn Brancheau, DB, Dream Big. | 1:15:12 | 1:15:16 | |
'Dawn was the most loving, giving person you ever met. | 1:15:16 | 1:15:20 | |
'Her smile just radiated.' | 1:15:20 | 1:15:22 | |
She's... She fulfilled her life. | 1:15:31 | 1:15:34 | |
'We saw whales swimming in straight lines with straight dorsal fins.' | 1:16:20 | 1:16:26 | |
'I was so honoured to be there.' | 1:16:27 | 1:16:29 | |
'And I was so thankful that I had sunglasses on,' | 1:16:34 | 1:16:37 | |
cos...the tears were kind of coming out, and, erm, | 1:16:37 | 1:16:41 | |
it was moving. | 1:16:41 | 1:16:43 |