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This programme contains some strong language some scenes which some viewers may find upsetting | 0:00:02 | 0:00:10 | |
CAR REVS | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
TYRES SCREECH | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
TYRES SCREECH | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
Now, they're known as the Pink Panthers. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
They're a gang that steals jewels | 0:01:22 | 0:01:23 | |
from high-end stores all over the world. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
And one of their alleged members... | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
Armed with this Magnum revolver and helped by an accomplice, he pounced. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:35 | |
We are talking about an international criminal group | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
made up of more than 200 people. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
They are organised in independent cells | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
and they live in different countries. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
These are all people from the former Yugoslavia. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
The core of the group comes from Montenegro. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
There is another substantial group from Serbia. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
CAR HORN BEEPS | 0:01:57 | 0:01:58 | |
One of the Panthers said that every robbery that is lasting | 0:01:58 | 0:02:03 | |
more than 22 seconds is a great risk. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
CAR HORN BEEPS AGAIN | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
There's no alarm, no security system, they can be good, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
that cannot be broken. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
Two hours, you're in another country and you are safe. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
That's what I like, you know. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
I have a lot to tell you about these robberies and there were many. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
But the best job I've did was in Spain. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
We waited for a festival that was about to take place | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
and we waited a long time. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
It was some kind of a religious thing, fiesta - | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
music, dancing. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
Some kind of noise that they couldn't hear us banging through the walls. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
And now the action could begin. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:43 | |
PHONE DIALS | 0:04:46 | 0:04:53 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
My name is Novak, you know, and people call us Pink Panthers. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:06 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
And English people, they call us, because of the film. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
I read somewhere that one inspector, I don't know where, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:18 | |
he said that we are terrorists or something like that. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
Modern terrorists, but it's not true. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
I mean, we are just taking something unimportant for rich people, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:29 | |
for us - who doesn't have that, you know? | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
We started with some houses, you know, | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
some cars and something like that. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
But jewelleries, we find out, is much easier. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
Jewellery's small, it's expensive, it gets you more money. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
We can be in China, we can be in Singapore, Tokyo, Dubai. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:03 | |
Wherever they have rich stuff, we can be there. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
ALARM BLARES | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
SEAGULLS SQUAWK | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
Here, we are really in the middle of the old town of Geneva. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
And there you have all the...all the biggest jewelleries | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
with million and million of stuff in the windows. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:48 | |
There you have Chatila... | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
This jewellery was attacked by the Pinks in 2009. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
That mean they enter by this door and after that, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
there were, in this road, two scooter... | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
You say scooter in English? | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
..were waiting and when they finished the robberies, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
they jump on the scooter and they leave the place. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
Gubelin was attacked one or two times by the Pinks. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
Graff - Graff Geneva... | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
..De Grisogono, Chopard, Adler... | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
About the statistics or numbers, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
approximately we have 500 cases | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
of robberies and burglaries | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
made by the Pinks. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
Speaking about the value of all the robberies, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
approximatively 300 millions of US dollars. | 0:07:54 | 0:08:00 | |
If you take all their crimes together, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
they are the best jewellery thieves in the world. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
I know, but like you say, it's a Pink Panther! | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
And there are colleagues who give me that one or two years ago. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
They were involved in a case we began here and they work on. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
And they find this big Pink Panther | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
and they bring it here. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
And it's a joke between all the teams in Europe | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
-working on the Pink Panthers. -PHONE RINGS IN BACKGROUND | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
-PRODUCER: -Can you tell me, when did you first hear of the Pink Panthers? | 0:08:39 | 0:08:45 | |
It was in 2000. At the beginning, it was different. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
For me, it was different as the other teams | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
about the organisation - it was more organised. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:57 | |
The action was very, very fast, when they come. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
SPEECH NOT AUDIBLE | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
'They have made a lot of robberies, so that mean when they come, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
'they are confident, they are sure about "what I have to do". | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
'The preparation is very, very good. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
'That means they come sometimes some months before | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
'to try to find which jewellery they are going to attack. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
'And after that, to know exactly how they are going to work, | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
'how many people they need to be in there, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
'how they are going to escape. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
'And after that, they do the robbery. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
'Sometimes, working on bad guys,' | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
there is something very particular, very special, between... | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
there is a respect but, at the same time, it is like a game. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
They know that we are hunting them. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
Because it's a little bit like that | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
from Pacino and De Niro in the film. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
It was like that, but they are always movies. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
They are not the reality. That's... | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
We just must remember that they are bad guys | 0:10:38 | 0:10:43 | |
going inside jewellery with guns. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
'We understood in this time that they were able to do things, incredible, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
'that nobody had done before.' | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
The first time, we didn't know that they were Pink Panthers. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
You know, this name did not exist, at this time. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
The first time, we just think it was | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
one robbery or two robberies, that's all. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
We did not identify, the first time, the importance of the group. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
It was a challenge | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
cos they are crossing the borders very fast, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
after the robbery - very easily. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:43 | |
We started to understand that it was a group. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
The only thing we know - that they were coming from former Yugoslavia. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:51 | |
So that's all we had, the first time. And so we started to identify | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
the different city they were coming from in former Yugoslavia - | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
especially Montenegro, from Cetinje. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
Yugoslavia. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:03 | |
Yugoslavia. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
Yugoslavia. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:06 | |
Yugoslavia. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:07 | |
Few Americans know little, if anything, about Yugoslavia. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
One reason is because not many people know where to find it. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
Actually, it's really quite simple - just go to Italy and make a right. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:22 | |
Yugoslavia. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:23 | |
A popular misconception about Yugoslavia is that | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
it is a neighbouring country of the Soviet Union. In actuality, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
it borders seven European countries, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
none of them being Russia. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
A bigger misconception than the location, though, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
is the country itself. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:38 | |
When most Americans think of Yugoslavia, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
this is not what comes to mind... | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
..or this... | 0:12:44 | 0:12:45 | |
..or this... | 0:12:47 | 0:12:48 | |
..or even this. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:54 | |
DOG BARKS IN THE DISTANCE | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
'The first time I heard about Panthers were in 2004. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:34 | |
'It was a surprise. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
'And my first thought when newspapers published' | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
that the perpetrators were three Serbs, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:44 | |
I said, "Fuck! This is all we needed." | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
My second thought, however, was, "Hmm, interesting. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
"How very skilful people." | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
Because I didn't know how they did it. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
Well, before 2000, we don't have Pink Panthers. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
Some people started with so big and exclusive heists... | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
..mostly in Europe, only Europe. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
And after it, we have some of the Panthers robbed out of Europe. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:37 | |
They went to Bahrain. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:40 | |
They went to Japan. They went to Dubai. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
I'm working right now for BIRN, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
Balkan Investigative Reporting Network. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
And, at the moment, I am looking for Pink Panthers, like I'm mad. | 0:14:54 | 0:15:00 | |
I'm working for more than two years on this. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
At first, I didn't believe it was possible to find any of them. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:17 | |
Why would any say, "Look, I'm Pink Panther, I'm going to help you"? | 0:15:17 | 0:15:22 | |
So that required a lot of work, a lot of travelling, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
a lot of phone calls... | 0:15:26 | 0:15:27 | |
..finding sources on the places you would never believe you can find them. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
That usually meant being on the road all the time, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
travelling to the region all the time, | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
meeting all kinds of people all the time. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
I must talk to dozens of different people, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
all kinds of people, | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
meet them, be ready to meet them at any time. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
You must make them trust you - | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
that you are not going to talk to the police, | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
that you are not going to put any of them in danger. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
If you know, when you do something | 0:16:44 | 0:16:45 | |
so extraordinary which attracts the attention of the whole world | 0:16:45 | 0:16:50 | |
and many people say, "Bravo, you robbed the bigger criminals." | 0:16:50 | 0:16:56 | |
Well, that can light some fire inside. I believe so. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:02 | |
OK, so if we start with... | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
Could he just introduce himself? | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
OK, Mike, so we've agreed that we will record this interview, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
but not show your face. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:31 | |
So, we'll use your real words but we'll animate you and your voice. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:43 | |
No face. Not my real voice. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
So, tell me, who are the Pink Panthers? | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
Well, I don't have a badge that says Pink Panther on it. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
We are a network of teams working together | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
and as I was involved, I became part of the network. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
Everybody has their specific job to do, understand? | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
So we all depend on each other. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:05 | |
Those in the inner circle are called family. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
But you have guys who don't know who their bosses or associates are. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
You have to be in with them for a long time dealing with these | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
kind of bigger jobs. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
You get tips from your own supervisor, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
but there is also a wider chain of command. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
You never know where you stand in the hierarchy, | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
because you never meet the boss. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
You don't know this guy is the big boss. There's no such thing. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
No big boss. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
You need a brain, knowledge. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
And experience to do this work. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
This means the jobs that we do and the other gangs that do sex, drugs, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
murder, they rarely cross over. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
So, tell me, what is it about the diamond? | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
I don't know why people spend money on diamonds. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
I don't suffer from this showing off. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
I have a Rolex, but as a souvenir. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
But diamonds, nah, they don't attract me. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
For me, diamonds mean good cash. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
Nothing else. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
Not anyone can do this job. You must be born to do it. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
You must firstly trust in yourself... | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
..because if you are weak, you can't do it. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
Women in the Panthers have to be...exceptional. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
Exceptional. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:49 | |
I was extremely good looking. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
30kgs less. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:01 | |
I had long red hair at the time. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
Although I had frequent transformations, very frequent. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
I would be sometimes blonde, sometimes brunette. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
You can only have one in each gang. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
And we have high requirements for the women. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
They have the leading roles. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
They have to do the main job, so they do the scouting, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:34 | |
they enter, they record and they bring the plan. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
That means the woman has to be intelligent, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
she has to be beautiful and she has to love money. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
The guys do a great majority of jobs. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
But they also need a woman on their team. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
Everyone always thinks it's the men, men, men. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
But without woman nothing would be done. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
Lela has to be dressed in most expensive clothes, you know? | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
Most elegant clothes, wearing expensive jewellery. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
Also to have her own chauffeur. She had to act exactly like Madonna. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:17 | |
I had to look very powerful. It was stuff by Burberry, then Chanel. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:33 | |
Whatever was in and whatever was popular. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
I wouldn't even know some of the brands that existed. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
But the stuff purchased, it was well known that it was very expensive. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:46 | |
THUNDER RUMBLES | 0:21:46 | 0:21:47 | |
ALARM BLARES | 0:21:51 | 0:21:52 | |
So, how did it all begin? | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
In the beginning it was individuals. Small shops, casinos. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
We went where there was money, gold. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
And eventually, jobs got bigger and better. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
When I was in Italy, I worked with this guy from Kosovo. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
Like his apprentice. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
He could open a safe in two minutes. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
We were together for four years | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
and by the end, I could open a cat in no time. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
-What's the cat? -The cat, we call a cat, the safe. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
Jewellery is like a magnet for crime. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
It's worth a lot and the crooks want it. Hello, I'm Mike for... | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
Jewellery crime is big business, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
often run by organised criminals who won't hesitate to use violence | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
in the city, suburbs or out in the country. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
Jewellery crime causes 1.1 billion in losses each year | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
from all sources, including consumers. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
But in most stores, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:06 | |
most of the jewellery does end up here at closing time, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
and even though it's not as common as you might think, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
the safe is still a target. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
I have a lot to tell you about these robberies, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
and there were many, but the best job I did was in Spain. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
Perfect plan. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:38 | |
The jewellery shop was a perfect target. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
It was a beautiful boutique, you know. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
Very high class. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:51 | |
There was, in this city, a most beautiful jewellery shop. | 0:23:55 | 0:24:00 | |
Everything with diamonds. Rings with diamonds, bracelets, necklaces. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
Very beautiful. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
Jewellery rarely achieves that kind of sparkle, very rarely, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
but we had no access, no access at all. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
So we had to do it in a different way. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
We tried many ways. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:19 | |
We had different ideas about the job | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
and then, finally, we had the idea - just to hire a shop next door. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
Next to the jewellery shop was the souvenir shop. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
In order to get to the jewellery shop, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
we needed to go through this second shop first. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
She met the Spanish shop owner and befriended him. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
She had to lure the guy into a trap. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:55 | |
I didn't go to seduce him, | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
but my very appearance contributed to his joy. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
He employed me at his place. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
Not to work, because I couldn't speak the language well enough, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
but to oversee things. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
She had to do a good job because we needed to gain his trust. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
Of course, her beauty helped. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
He thought they could get closer, that they would be | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
together every day. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
Well, I don't see why I should feel guilty. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
It is his problem that he fell in love with me | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
and that my presence brought him lots of pleasure. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
I couldn't do anything about that. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
So when she was there, she examined the wall, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
which gave us an idea that we could knock it down | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
and where we could exit... | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
..which way we could run. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:49 | |
She was there so she could scan | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
and find that information, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:56 | |
see if the plan would be possible. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
The reason why I spent a lot of time with the Spanish guy was so that | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
I could observe exactly when the jewellery shop closed - | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
when would it open, when they would go out for a coffee, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
for how long they would be out. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
Generally, it was all about them. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
In fact, I'm the most important part of the job, and I'm aware of that. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:27 | |
My one mistake would be their fall, | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
so if I make an error somewhere, they are doomed. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
Tell me about your life growing up in Yugoslavia. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
I'm from the border of Montenegro and Albania, actually. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
I'm 48. My father was born Muslim and a communist. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
Tito. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:26 | |
He was our idol. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:29 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
Tito and the Communist Party of Yugoslavia declared | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
the Republic of Yugoslavia in 1945. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
People now remember of that period like the golden age. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:18 | |
He was a very authoritarian ruler. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
He liked his position. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
But he also had a strong sense of what is necessary to do. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:36 | |
Yugoslavia... | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
was made by many different nations, different religions, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:50 | |
different ethnic groups - we had more than 20 ethnic groups here, | 0:28:50 | 0:28:56 | |
and I believe it was very hard to put them all together, | 0:28:56 | 0:29:02 | |
and keep that country alive. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
SINGING | 0:29:05 | 0:29:06 | |
As kids, you know, I had in my class | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
alongside Gypsy and other, Albanian, Croatian... | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
Germans, Jews, Muslims. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
It was really amazing. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
I only got my first passport when I was 16 or 17, | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
but I couldn't wait for the summer. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
In May, the first tourists would come. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
Germans, French, Italian and English would come too | 0:29:54 | 0:29:58 | |
and they would go swim naked. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
I would sell them Coke and beer. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
Wherever there was an opportunity to peek, to watch naked women, | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
I would sit down to watch. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
My first love was this German woman. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
I'm still thinking of her now. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:21 | |
That's how I actually got to learn my German. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
See how it's all coming back. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
As a young girl, I lived in Dimitrovgrad. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
It was a small house where my grandmother lived. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
BELL TOLLS | 0:30:48 | 0:30:49 | |
But my aunt came for me and my life continued in Hamburg, in Germany. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:58 | |
GERMAN MUSIC PLAYS | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
I had a wonderful time, wonderful. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
This is something that remains stamped in my memory. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
I was taken by the extravagance and luxury there was. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
I thought, "I will become something and somebody in my life." | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
I couldn't go out that much, as my aunt was a very strict woman. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
She was working in Yugoslav restaurant and she got me | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
a job to wash dishes and to work at the bar. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
I had a chance to meet all kinds of people, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
and that's how I met my boyfriend. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:43 | |
I was still a child, 17 years old, | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
and there was some kind of chemistry between us. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
And after that, he started giving me all kinds of gifts, | 0:31:54 | 0:31:59 | |
perfumes, necklaces, bracelets, and so we got together. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:05 | |
SHE SPEAKS GERMAN | 0:32:06 | 0:32:07 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, we would like to inform you about a few | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
things that will be of interest to you during the flight. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
I was in love and I was doing everything just to be with him. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
It was arranged that we all go to Spain, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
but this was where everything was clear to me - | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
this was a criminal job that he was doing. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
When he confessed, I wasn't bothered with it at all. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:48 | |
In fact, I asked him to introduce me to his job so I can be closer to him. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:53 | |
THUNDER RUMBLES | 0:32:53 | 0:32:54 | |
I was very anxious, nervous, I wanted to do it, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
but in that moment, I thought to myself, "How am I going to?" | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
Somewhere in the back of my mind I was afraid, but I never showed it. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
I would go all or nothing. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
And I became the scout, I entered the shop, I recorded where everything is, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:17 | |
I told them. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:18 | |
Lela would then simply enter the boutique, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
and she would register everything, solely with her eyes... | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
..where everything is, the distances, how far things are, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:40 | |
what she thinks can be done, to what extent, who is there... | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
how many of them, how many cameras. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
Every single detail, she has to cover. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
It is only a woman who can do this job properly. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
A man would stick out too much. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
She can ask for a necklace, she can ask for a ring. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
I had a very large hat. I looked like a real lady. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:25 | |
And I had that ring. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:28 | |
That ring was very expensive. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
And I told them that I lost weight and that I came for them | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
to make it smaller. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:36 | |
While they were doing this, I had plenty of time to assess | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
and check out everything around me. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
I couldn't see the safe, we call the safe the kitten, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
I couldn't locate it, but everything else I had to assess. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
When I would go back home, there was | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
a man who would sketch it all | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
based on my story. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:14 | |
He drew it all. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
The woman didn't take part in the action. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
She gave us the key, gave us information | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
and her part of the job is finished. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
Most of the time, I felt strong, | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
but I sometimes had a feeling that I was drowning, | 0:35:37 | 0:35:42 | |
that everything is falling to pieces... | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
..but when I would see my boyfriend next to me, it would lift me up. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
You have to lock yourself in a room. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
You would see other people from the balcony, | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
a girlfriend or a boyfriend walking in the open, | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
we were not allowed to do that. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
You would feel a kind of collapse somewhere in your soul. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
Sometimes nothing, | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
neither money or gold or any kind of wealth would give me | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
as much satisfaction as the mere thought that one day we would go away | 0:36:48 | 0:36:53 | |
together and be alone, | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
hope that we will live normal life, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
like everyone else. | 0:36:58 | 0:36:59 | |
It took about four months | 0:37:11 | 0:37:12 | |
to complete all this planning process... | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
..and it cost a lot of money. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
After all that, I had to disappear | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
because that was the arrangement between us. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
I would have beauticians coming to my house, hairdressers, | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
not even he can recognise me sometimes, | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
but he would tell me | 0:37:38 | 0:37:39 | |
that I have to do frequent makeovers | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
because of myself and because of the false documents. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
That sounds fun and quite glamorous, the transformations. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
-Did you enjoy it? -No, I hated it. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
They weren't fun to do | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
because I liked the way I looked, | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
and sometimes those transformations would bother me, | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
like I lost my identity. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:02 | |
I felt like a doll | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
that was experimented on. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
Tito died in 1980. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
It was like my father died, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
just like my father. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:42 | |
I can't explain the mourning. | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
They took us to visit his mausoleum - Kuca Cveca, it's called. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:12 | |
You would have to queue for two days | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
to visit his tomb and pay your tribute - | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
the entire Yugoslavia was there. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
This is when it all started. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
You could sense the separation coming from the point | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
that each republic would have their own president. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
MILOSEVIC SPEAKS TO CROWD | 0:40:14 | 0:40:15 | |
The first time I saw Milosevic was on television. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
I saw him during this big rally in Kosovo. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
The separation and hatred already started by then. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
In every city, there was a national ID. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
You're a Serbian, Albanian, | 0:40:58 | 0:40:59 | |
this guy's from Croatia, you know, from Kosovo. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:04 | |
I don't know, great tension - everything was cracking open. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
For me, as an Albanian in Montenegro, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
the hatred was very visible, | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
just pure hatred. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
This is where the huge partition started. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
CROWD CHANT | 0:41:23 | 0:41:24 | |
After Tito died, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
separatist groups in different nations of Yugoslavia | 0:41:41 | 0:41:46 | |
just rose up... | 0:41:46 | 0:41:47 | |
..and they really contributed to the final end of that country... | 0:41:48 | 0:41:53 | |
..to its dismantling. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:56 | |
I think that you'll have to agree that Yugoslavia is a pretty | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
spectacular country, and we haven't even seen half of it yet. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
Tomorrow night, Belgrade, the capital of Yugoslavia, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
Sarajevo, the site of the 1984 Winter Olympics | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
and then, Dubrovnik, one of the most exciting, | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
unique and charming little cities in all of the world. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
I saw it last night and I can't wait for you to see it, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
so I'll see you tomorrow night from Yugoslavia. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
TRADITIONAL MUSIC PLAYS | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
EXPLOSION | 0:42:43 | 0:42:44 | |
GUNFIRE | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
REPORTER: 'The ethnically mixed communities of Muslims, Serbs | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
'and Croats have traditionally lived together in peace... | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
'..until a majority of the people in Bosnia-Herzegovina | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
'voted for independence, | 0:43:18 | 0:43:19 | |
'denying Serbia its plans for a newly-formed Yugoslavia.' | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
All the darkness of Milosevic's regime | 0:44:06 | 0:44:09 | |
left a huge mark on people's soul. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:11 | |
Many people just like... | 0:44:13 | 0:44:15 | |
..to the war zones, | 0:44:16 | 0:44:18 | |
you know, sent to Dubrovnik or Bosnia to kill, to rape. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:23 | |
I like this area, I really do. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:39 | |
It's so green. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:42 | |
This is the street where I spent many hours during the '90s, | 0:44:48 | 0:44:51 | |
because I was demonstrating against Slobodan Milosevic and his rule. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:56 | |
It has very strong and very fresh memories. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:01 | |
I mean, just... | 0:45:01 | 0:45:03 | |
We tried to say, "Look, it's time for you to go. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
"You are taking us into total disaster." | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
It is just interesting to pass here after so many years. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
Nice treat. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:20 | |
-REPORTER: -'It's time to turn up the pressure on Yugoslavia, | 0:45:24 | 0:45:26 | |
'the European community decided today. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
'Behind closed doors, | 0:45:29 | 0:45:30 | |
'they imposed immediate trade sanctions against Yugoslavia, | 0:45:30 | 0:45:33 | |
'and the UN Security Council is to be asked | 0:45:33 | 0:45:35 | |
'to coordinate an oil embargo.' | 0:45:35 | 0:45:37 | |
What we've decided today | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
is to impose sanctions on the whole of Yugoslavia. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:43 | |
Over time, that will certainly build into an effective pressure. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:47 | |
I don't know how long. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:48 | |
-MIKE: -By the end of '94, | 0:47:58 | 0:47:59 | |
it was the core of Milosevic' regime and activities. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
You know, times were such that you don't know | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
what tomorrow's going to bring. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:07 | |
We all took this rhythm of, "Come on, come on," | 0:48:07 | 0:48:10 | |
smuggling everywhere, crime everywhere, | 0:48:10 | 0:48:12 | |
nobody thought about real jobs. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
I mean, there's no real job. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:17 | |
I had a good deal of money. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:18 | |
When there was a job, cracking safe, | 0:48:19 | 0:48:22 | |
I would go abroad for a month or two. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
It was a good job, profitable, you know, we were dancing to the music. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:30 | |
It was the time of turbo-folk music. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
Every time I hear it, I feel chaos. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:43 | |
SHE SINGS IN OWN LANGUAGE | 0:48:43 | 0:48:45 | |
Everybody was trying to swindle you, rob you, cheat, | 0:48:55 | 0:48:59 | |
it was bare survival - just deceit after deceit. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
There was not a single night that somebody wasn't beaten up or killed. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:08 | |
The black market has flourished under the sanctions. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
There is a widespread network of illegal dealings in all spheres | 0:49:36 | 0:49:41 | |
and it is done with the quiet consent of Serbian government. | 0:49:41 | 0:49:44 | |
-MILENA: -It is the truth that crime erupted during the wars, | 0:49:48 | 0:49:53 | |
which is usual and expected. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:55 | |
Many people became criminals, but not all. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
We all had choice. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:01 | |
It wasn't easy, it was difficult. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:06 | |
I could become prostitute or drug smuggler or oil smuggler, | 0:50:06 | 0:50:11 | |
but I've not. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:12 | |
THUNDER RUMBLES | 0:50:17 | 0:50:18 | |
REPORTER: 'It's not over yet. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:44 | |
'Hundreds were kicked out of Kosovo today, literally - | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
'kicked and beaten at the border | 0:50:47 | 0:50:49 | |
'within sight of freedom. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:50 | |
'And so, the biggest forced exodus in Europe goes on | 0:50:52 | 0:50:56 | |
'with enough bitterness to ensure | 0:50:56 | 0:50:58 | |
'that Albanians and Serbs will find it hard ever to live together again.' | 0:50:58 | 0:51:02 | |
Europe couldn't do much, you know, it was getting too big - | 0:51:04 | 0:51:08 | |
refugees from Bosnia, from Kosovo, from Croatia... | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
..and 70% of these refugees went to Europe, | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
and so the criminal went to Europe, | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
and this is the beginning of Pink Panther. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:20 | |
-MILENA: -Some change just happened in 2000 - | 0:52:26 | 0:52:29 | |
a few people started to rob | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
really, really big values. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:35 | |
OK, they are using guns. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
This is to scare. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
That is the only purpose of gun, | 0:52:45 | 0:52:47 | |
but one of their condition is no victims. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:52 | |
They were actually creating the signature | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
of what we know now as Pink Panthers. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:03 | |
And as one Panther said, | 0:53:06 | 0:53:08 | |
"After that, you have ten years of very good life." | 0:53:08 | 0:53:11 | |
MIKE: So we waited for a festival that was about to take place, | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
and we waited a long time. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
It was some kind of a religious thing, | 0:53:30 | 0:53:32 | |
a fiesta, music, dancing, just some kind of noise. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:36 | |
That was what we were waiting for - | 0:53:37 | 0:53:39 | |
some kind of noise that they couldn't hear us | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
banging through the walls. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:43 | |
Because the crooks need time, | 0:53:47 | 0:53:49 | |
they're more likely to hit safes on weekends or holidays. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:52 | |
They're clever about finding ways to do it without attracting attention. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:57 | |
There was four of us plus one guy in a van. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:04 | |
We were completely hidden by the people in the street. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:08 | |
FIREWORKS AND STREET CHATTER | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
We were all dressed up, we had our masks, bodysuits, | 0:54:14 | 0:54:19 | |
completely covered up - you couldn't see us at all, | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
and now the action could begin. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:25 | |
RUBBLE BREAKS | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
We only needed to pickaxe the wall. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:37 | |
In the end, there was a hole this big | 0:54:37 | 0:54:40 | |
and we squeezed through it into the boutique behind. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
We knew everything that was in a glass case was alarmed. It's a trick. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:55 | |
They always do this. They alarm cheap stuff like a decoy. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
But the real booty is in the save! | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
So we got to the safe, we try to take it out with the pickaxe... | 0:55:05 | 0:55:09 | |
But we couldn't. We were looking at it and there was no chance. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:17 | |
Then we saw the screws were inside the concrete | 0:55:17 | 0:55:22 | |
and we had the idea to lift it up with the car jack. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:24 | |
Lucky there was one in the van. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
We got out, we took the safe out of the shop and we put it in the van. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:33 | |
People around us, fiesta, fireworks - incredible. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:42 | |
Thing is, there's no panic when you do the job. | 0:55:50 | 0:55:54 | |
The panic begins when you run. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:56 | |
But we drove away through the people. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:05 | |
And we went away into the woods. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
We got out by a lake, I remember. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:22 | |
Somewhere dark, somewhere safe. Somewhere secure. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:27 | |
And then we began to open the safe. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:30 | |
You get the safes that are mechanical, numerical, | 0:56:36 | 0:56:39 | |
with locks, and you get the digital ones. I can crack them all. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:45 | |
Digital safes are the easiest to open. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:47 | |
You take some powder and dust them | 0:56:47 | 0:56:49 | |
and you can see the fingerprints and you know everything. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:53 | |
Numerical ones are the hardest. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:55 | |
You have to use your hearing, you have to have very good hearing | 0:56:55 | 0:56:59 | |
and a good memory. This is very difficult. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:02 | |
But in this case we couldn't open it. We tried everything. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:07 | |
We made phone calls. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:08 | |
I spoke to another safe expert. But we gave up that night. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
You can't sleep. You can't sleep, for God's sake. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:28 | |
We're all in this together, we're all friends | 0:57:28 | 0:57:31 | |
but with this kind of loot, your brain works on different frequency. | 0:57:31 | 0:57:35 | |
You could have two or three million euros | 0:57:35 | 0:57:37 | |
and you don't know what will happen. | 0:57:37 | 0:57:39 | |
I don't know. Money is money, you can't separate. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:42 | |
If one of us is missing, he could take it all. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:45 | |
-WOMAN: -I was in the flat on my own. | 0:57:51 | 0:57:53 | |
I was already worrying why they were not back yet. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:56 | |
They didn't call, no phone calls at all | 0:57:56 | 0:57:58 | |
because that was the arrangement. | 0:57:58 | 0:58:00 | |
I didn't know what was happening, | 0:58:00 | 0:58:02 | |
all kinds of thoughts were going through my head. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
I would often cry and I wanted to get out of the flat | 0:58:05 | 0:58:07 | |
but I was told not to do that. | 0:58:07 | 0:58:10 | |
Sometimes I wouldn't even care about the money. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:12 | |
I waited for HIM, not the loot. | 0:58:12 | 0:58:14 | |
We had to wait for the morning to buy additional tools that we needed. | 0:58:27 | 0:58:32 | |
We bought two more crowbars, one big, one small, we took another | 0:58:39 | 0:58:43 | |
pickaxe and we thought we could do something with burning gas. | 0:58:43 | 0:58:46 | |
And when we had the tools, we went back to the lake. | 0:58:53 | 0:58:56 | |
We were guarding the van outside and inside we could speak | 0:58:56 | 0:59:00 | |
and pick until finished. | 0:59:00 | 0:59:02 | |
THUNDER CRACKS | 0:59:02 | 0:59:05 | |
It took over an hour to open the safe. | 0:59:10 | 0:59:13 | |
When you open a safe and you see it's a full, full safe... | 0:59:13 | 0:59:18 | |
There's the feeling, it's like, | 0:59:20 | 0:59:22 | |
a feeling you might faint any moment. | 0:59:22 | 0:59:26 | |
I love that! | 0:59:26 | 0:59:28 | |
And in this safe there was plenty of stuff. There was really a lot. | 0:59:31 | 0:59:37 | |
We found six bags that we call rolls. | 0:59:37 | 0:59:41 | |
It was three stones, | 0:59:41 | 0:59:44 | |
three bags of stones, two with bracelets | 0:59:44 | 0:59:48 | |
and one with watches. Er... | 0:59:48 | 0:59:50 | |
In the newspapers, when it came about the robbery, | 0:59:52 | 0:59:55 | |
it said the value three million. | 0:59:55 | 0:59:57 | |
And if I can only say what else we found, inside of the safe! | 0:59:57 | 1:00:02 | |
We found a fake penis! You say dildo, no? | 1:00:02 | 1:00:07 | |
And I bet you they didn't declare that to the police! | 1:00:07 | 1:00:11 | |
HE LAUGHS | 1:00:11 | 1:00:13 | |
-What do they do with the jewels? -We don't know exactly. | 1:00:30 | 1:00:34 | |
What we know, the jewels are going very fast out of the country | 1:00:34 | 1:00:38 | |
to where they committed the robbery. | 1:00:38 | 1:00:41 | |
The day after, the jewels are disappeared. | 1:00:41 | 1:00:44 | |
We think they are going in Italy or in Montenegro or Serbia | 1:00:44 | 1:00:47 | |
and after, it is sold. | 1:00:47 | 1:00:50 | |
So, what do you do with the diamonds? | 1:01:03 | 1:01:05 | |
We bring the stones over here to our contact in Belgrade | 1:01:06 | 1:01:10 | |
but he doesn't have a market in the former Yugoslavia. | 1:01:10 | 1:01:13 | |
He has to sell abroad but maybe, I don't know, Antwerp? | 1:01:13 | 1:01:16 | |
We would do this job ourselves but it's very risky abroad | 1:01:16 | 1:01:21 | |
because you make an offer, you give it to the guy, | 1:01:21 | 1:01:24 | |
they take it and it's a set-up and bang. You're killed. | 1:01:24 | 1:01:28 | |
No, we stay in the Balkans. | 1:01:29 | 1:01:33 | |
TRANSLATION: | 1:01:34 | 1:01:38 | |
What do you do, then, do you hide it, do you swallow it? | 1:02:18 | 1:02:22 | |
HE LAUGHS | 1:02:22 | 1:02:24 | |
They had a false passport and they were about to cross the border | 1:02:56 | 1:02:59 | |
very easily, by plane, by car, or by train and for them | 1:02:59 | 1:03:04 | |
it was difficult to follow them and to know what they are going to do. | 1:03:04 | 1:03:07 | |
When they go back to the country, | 1:03:55 | 1:03:58 | |
there was like a protection, | 1:03:58 | 1:04:01 | |
they knew nobody is going to come to Montenegro or to Serbia to pick them there, | 1:04:01 | 1:04:08 | |
even if you have an arrest warrant, because some of them | 1:04:08 | 1:04:11 | |
were involved with the politicians and so it was very difficult, | 1:04:11 | 1:04:16 | |
so they knew that as soon as I have made my robbery, | 1:04:16 | 1:04:19 | |
I go back to the country - there I'm protected. | 1:04:19 | 1:04:22 | |
That's right, in the Balkans they speak of the pinks like Robin Hood. | 1:05:30 | 1:05:35 | |
But that's not reality. | 1:05:36 | 1:05:38 | |
Normally, about the guys we know, the money they use or they have | 1:05:38 | 1:05:44 | |
they're not going to give that for the Red Cross or... | 1:05:44 | 1:05:48 | |
an association in Montenegro. | 1:05:48 | 1:05:51 | |
You have some who will reinvest some money in drugs, | 1:05:51 | 1:05:55 | |
some who put the money in real estate | 1:05:55 | 1:05:59 | |
and some just use the money for fun. | 1:05:59 | 1:06:03 | |
Then the pink starts changing. | 1:06:11 | 1:06:13 | |
He starts gambling, going out all the time, the money that we had, | 1:06:14 | 1:06:18 | |
we start to rapidly spend it more and more. | 1:06:18 | 1:06:21 | |
And then we start arguing. | 1:06:21 | 1:06:24 | |
I wanted to somehow attract him to live a different kind of life. | 1:06:24 | 1:06:28 | |
I thought perhaps he needs only one more job and he would change. | 1:06:30 | 1:06:34 | |
It would change his life. | 1:06:34 | 1:06:36 | |
But I saw that he wouldn't change for anything or anybody. | 1:06:39 | 1:06:44 | |
He said he wanted me to continue my life and that he didn't know | 1:06:44 | 1:06:48 | |
if his life would ever change. | 1:06:48 | 1:06:51 | |
Then I gave up on him. | 1:06:52 | 1:06:54 | |
MILITARY MARCHING CHANT | 1:06:56 | 1:06:59 | |
My name is Green and I'm from Bosnia-Herzegovina. | 1:07:03 | 1:07:07 | |
I don't consider myself as one of Pink Panthers but I am connected. | 1:07:07 | 1:07:11 | |
In 1996, I joined the special operation unit | 1:07:21 | 1:07:25 | |
because I knew that the contacts in the Serbian security service | 1:07:25 | 1:07:28 | |
would allow me job benefits in the future. | 1:07:28 | 1:07:31 | |
My first criminal job in Bosnia | 1:07:35 | 1:07:38 | |
was importing stolen cars from Europe. | 1:07:38 | 1:07:41 | |
The second job was human trafficking for prostitution, | 1:07:41 | 1:07:44 | |
predominantly from Ukraine and Moldova. | 1:07:44 | 1:07:48 | |
So, it is only the third phase that we do drugs, cocaine and diamonds. | 1:07:48 | 1:07:54 | |
Nothing in diamonds could be done outside the Serb secret service. | 1:07:54 | 1:07:58 | |
America asked the United Nations to prevent diamond smuggling | 1:08:01 | 1:08:05 | |
because this war in Sierra Leone was financed by diamond trade. | 1:08:05 | 1:08:08 | |
The Americans requested every diamond sold in Sierra Leone | 1:08:11 | 1:08:14 | |
had to have a certificate about its origin and everything, | 1:08:14 | 1:08:18 | |
so we actually, my group and myself, learned how to make certificates and | 1:08:18 | 1:08:23 | |
how to make clean illegal diamonds that are ready for the market. | 1:08:23 | 1:08:26 | |
The first contract with Pink Panthers was when I started | 1:08:37 | 1:08:40 | |
the diamond business in Antwerp. | 1:08:40 | 1:08:42 | |
They would bring diamonds to me and my team would process it, | 1:08:42 | 1:08:46 | |
forging diamond certificates | 1:08:46 | 1:08:48 | |
and inputting real information from Sierra Leone that was | 1:08:48 | 1:08:52 | |
mined in this and that place and it has original certificates. | 1:08:52 | 1:08:56 | |
The entire genesis, America asked the United Nations to establish. | 1:08:56 | 1:09:00 | |
The diamonds are cut, reshaped, but they get smaller. | 1:09:07 | 1:09:12 | |
If it was 30 carats, it is now 15. | 1:09:12 | 1:09:14 | |
They are clean in every sense of the word. | 1:09:16 | 1:09:19 | |
It's not possible to prove they are not clean. | 1:09:19 | 1:09:22 | |
Our biggest clients are Americans. | 1:09:24 | 1:09:27 | |
I will say, although I've never been to America, my diamonds | 1:09:27 | 1:09:30 | |
are on the hands of the brides. | 1:09:30 | 1:09:32 | |
I receive information, Al-Qaeda also purchase diamonds. | 1:09:37 | 1:09:41 | |
Diamonds have a good exchange value | 1:09:44 | 1:09:46 | |
because they don't leave electronic trace. | 1:09:46 | 1:09:49 | |
Every transaction over 15,000 euros or dollars is controlled. | 1:09:54 | 1:09:59 | |
But who controls diamonds? Nobody. | 1:09:59 | 1:10:01 | |
You can come out with a tiny bag full of diamonds | 1:10:02 | 1:10:05 | |
and you can buy a bowl filled with cocaine. | 1:10:05 | 1:10:08 | |
The real... | 1:10:11 | 1:10:12 | |
the first step on the real work on the Pink Panthers is 2007, | 1:10:12 | 1:10:17 | |
when Monaco pushed Interpol to make a project work... | 1:10:17 | 1:10:22 | |
to create this Project Pink Panther. | 1:10:22 | 1:10:25 | |
And the real job, for me, began at this time. | 1:10:25 | 1:10:28 | |
Because at this time, we began to say, "OK, they are linked, | 1:10:28 | 1:10:32 | |
"they are reselling. | 1:10:32 | 1:10:35 | |
"A lot of these teams are linked and working in all Europe. | 1:10:35 | 1:10:41 | |
"And we have to do this project | 1:10:41 | 1:10:43 | |
"so we can put all the information together." | 1:10:43 | 1:10:47 | |
If we take one example, this guy, | 1:10:47 | 1:10:50 | |
we see that he is connected to this guy | 1:10:50 | 1:10:54 | |
because they were arrested together, in 2004. | 1:10:54 | 1:10:58 | |
And at the same time, he is connected with this guy | 1:10:58 | 1:11:03 | |
because they have done a robbery together. | 1:11:03 | 1:11:06 | |
Because we know that there are, between some groups, | 1:11:06 | 1:11:10 | |
like, a small competition - | 1:11:10 | 1:11:11 | |
who is going to make the biggest robbery. | 1:11:11 | 1:11:16 | |
And we know that there are some targets in the world | 1:11:16 | 1:11:22 | |
and the first one who is going to make that will take... | 1:11:22 | 1:11:28 | |
a little bit, like, take the lead on the other teams. | 1:11:28 | 1:11:33 | |
Well, the night of the incident, it was just a regular night out, | 1:11:47 | 1:11:52 | |
hanging out with some friends. | 1:11:52 | 1:11:55 | |
And I get a call from a friend of mine | 1:11:55 | 1:11:58 | |
who informs me that there's a big robbery going on at Wafi. | 1:11:58 | 1:12:02 | |
She tells me that her husband's there | 1:12:07 | 1:12:09 | |
and he's just sent her, on BlackBerry, | 1:12:09 | 1:12:12 | |
a video shot of what's happening. | 1:12:12 | 1:12:15 | |
CONFUSED SHOUTING | 1:12:15 | 1:12:17 | |
I immediately headed out to Wafi | 1:12:20 | 1:12:23 | |
and I just saw police cordoning off the area around it. | 1:12:23 | 1:12:27 | |
CONFUSED SHOUTING | 1:12:27 | 1:12:31 | |
I was standing at the entrance and started clipping pictures | 1:12:41 | 1:12:45 | |
and trying to see what's going on and what's happened. | 1:12:45 | 1:12:48 | |
Out comes the door - the Dubai police chief. | 1:12:51 | 1:12:54 | |
The first words that have come out of his mouth that night was, | 1:12:58 | 1:13:02 | |
"These were definitely not Arabs. | 1:13:02 | 1:13:04 | |
"This was too well-organised." | 1:13:05 | 1:13:07 | |
CONFUSED SHOUTING | 1:13:09 | 1:13:11 | |
So what happened? You went straight to the mall? | 1:13:16 | 1:13:19 | |
Yes, I went straight and I meet my commanders, also, in the area. | 1:13:19 | 1:13:24 | |
And we closed the places | 1:13:24 | 1:13:26 | |
and we find some glass is on the ground | 1:13:26 | 1:13:29 | |
and the evidence from all the things. | 1:13:29 | 1:13:31 | |
And we must be careful about the place and that's what we're doing. | 1:13:31 | 1:13:36 | |
The cars have come out of this main doorway, | 1:13:41 | 1:13:44 | |
that's right behind us, | 1:13:44 | 1:13:46 | |
drove straight through onto this road | 1:13:46 | 1:13:48 | |
which connects them to the outside of the mall | 1:13:48 | 1:13:51 | |
and into the highway, | 1:13:51 | 1:13:52 | |
where we're going to retrace the route that they've taken, right now. | 1:13:52 | 1:13:56 | |
From this point onwards, to the highway, | 1:14:10 | 1:14:13 | |
there are no traffic lights. | 1:14:13 | 1:14:15 | |
So the guys had more or less | 1:14:15 | 1:14:19 | |
clear access to the roads. | 1:14:19 | 1:14:21 | |
So the thieves dumped the cars, set fire to them, | 1:14:34 | 1:14:38 | |
jumped into their getaway car and now they have disappeared. | 1:14:38 | 1:14:41 | |
The whole thing would have possibly taken them about ten minutes. | 1:14:43 | 1:14:47 | |
Next day morning, early morning, | 1:14:56 | 1:14:59 | |
the two cars were found abandoned and burnt. | 1:14:59 | 1:15:02 | |
One of them more than the other. | 1:15:02 | 1:15:05 | |
-MAJOR GENERAL: -He closed all the window of the cars. | 1:15:05 | 1:15:08 | |
When he closed the window, there is no oxygen for the fire inside | 1:15:08 | 1:15:12 | |
and then we find all the evidence inside this car. | 1:15:12 | 1:15:15 | |
We find the gloves, we find some dress, | 1:15:15 | 1:15:18 | |
we find the tanks who have used the chemicals to burn the cars. | 1:15:18 | 1:15:22 | |
Immediately, we know this is organised | 1:15:22 | 1:15:25 | |
from Pink Panther organised crimes. | 1:15:25 | 1:15:27 | |
This is what I feel immediately, | 1:15:27 | 1:15:30 | |
when I go back to see the CCTV camera. | 1:15:30 | 1:15:32 | |
TRANSLATION: | 1:15:37 | 1:15:40 | |
At that time, every single Serbian who has had a record | 1:15:58 | 1:16:04 | |
was picked up and questioned. | 1:16:04 | 1:16:06 | |
TRANSLATION: | 1:16:14 | 1:16:17 | |
-So how many people did you have working on the job? -Anything. | 1:16:26 | 1:16:29 | |
We don't get a limit for that. | 1:16:29 | 1:16:31 | |
It depended about | 1:16:31 | 1:16:33 | |
what the kind of work they will be doing is. | 1:16:33 | 1:16:36 | |
Over the next three, four days, it just went frantic. | 1:16:41 | 1:16:44 | |
They kept on feeding information to the Interpol, | 1:16:46 | 1:16:51 | |
for the international police force to try to get these guys. | 1:16:51 | 1:16:55 | |
TRANSLATION: | 1:16:59 | 1:17:02 | |
It's not easy for anyone to do any crime | 1:17:15 | 1:17:18 | |
and not leave any evidence. | 1:17:18 | 1:17:22 | |
They left evidence, that helped us. | 1:17:22 | 1:17:25 | |
Because this is forensics and that's the beauty of DNA. | 1:17:25 | 1:17:29 | |
We got information from Interpol about the DNA. | 1:17:38 | 1:17:41 | |
So we were working. | 1:17:41 | 1:17:43 | |
And we knew that they rented a car. | 1:17:43 | 1:17:45 | |
But this car, | 1:17:46 | 1:17:48 | |
nobody knows where this car is. | 1:17:48 | 1:17:51 | |
Then we found the car. | 1:17:52 | 1:17:55 | |
We decide that we will not take the car. | 1:17:55 | 1:17:58 | |
We will watch it. | 1:17:58 | 1:17:59 | |
And we find one guy - | 1:18:11 | 1:18:12 | |
they try to open the car and we catch him, | 1:18:12 | 1:18:14 | |
because that guy, they sent to take the jewels | 1:18:14 | 1:18:16 | |
out of the country. | 1:18:16 | 1:18:18 | |
We find the jewellery inside this car. | 1:18:24 | 1:18:27 | |
Police, when the arrests were made, | 1:18:34 | 1:18:37 | |
called in a huge press conference. | 1:18:37 | 1:18:40 | |
All the media was there, | 1:18:40 | 1:18:41 | |
laid out the jewellery in front of everybody and said, | 1:18:41 | 1:18:45 | |
"We've caught them, we've nabbed them. | 1:18:45 | 1:18:47 | |
"We're done." | 1:18:47 | 1:18:48 | |
And who were the others, then? | 1:19:03 | 1:19:05 | |
-You had a picture of the girl. -Yes. | 1:19:05 | 1:19:07 | |
-But she's not in prison? -No. | 1:19:07 | 1:19:09 | |
She's in Serbia, so maybe she cannot be arrested in Serbia. | 1:19:09 | 1:19:12 | |
I hope she'll be arrested in Serbia. But I know her. | 1:19:12 | 1:19:16 | |
We tried to discuss this with Interpol. | 1:19:18 | 1:19:21 | |
We tried to do so. | 1:19:21 | 1:19:23 | |
So if a member of the Pink Panther gang watches my film, | 1:19:37 | 1:19:40 | |
what is your message? | 1:19:40 | 1:19:41 | |
To be far from our area. | 1:19:42 | 1:19:45 | |
Don't try to play with us, because we are not playing. | 1:19:45 | 1:19:49 | |
They had a great period between 2000 and 2006. | 1:20:07 | 1:20:11 | |
And the problem for them, it is that the connection | 1:20:11 | 1:20:14 | |
between the different police in Europe is a problem for them. | 1:20:14 | 1:20:18 | |
We can exchange information very easily. | 1:20:19 | 1:20:21 | |
And on top of that, with Serbia and Montenegro now, | 1:20:21 | 1:20:24 | |
we have a good connection | 1:20:24 | 1:20:25 | |
and they are cooperating with the Western police in Europe. | 1:20:25 | 1:20:29 | |
So for them, it's going to be harder to commit these robberies in Europe. | 1:20:29 | 1:20:34 | |
And that's what Interpol said - | 1:20:34 | 1:20:36 | |
it's one of the first time they have such a project | 1:20:36 | 1:20:40 | |
which gives so much information | 1:20:40 | 1:20:44 | |
and who bring us to so many arrests. | 1:20:44 | 1:20:47 | |
Since 2007, | 1:20:51 | 1:20:53 | |
you have nearly 50 people who were arrested across Europe. | 1:20:53 | 1:20:58 | |
-Is it still safe here? -Oh, no, no, no. | 1:21:22 | 1:21:26 | |
Montenegro isn't a safe haven any more. | 1:21:26 | 1:21:29 | |
Montenegro has started to extradite people | 1:21:29 | 1:21:32 | |
because they want to join the European Union. | 1:21:32 | 1:21:34 | |
So it's not any more about doing it and escaping. | 1:21:35 | 1:21:37 | |
You have to protect yourself here as much as there. | 1:21:37 | 1:21:39 | |
But, you know, now we lead much more simple lives. | 1:21:45 | 1:21:48 | |
Things slowed down and, you know... | 1:21:49 | 1:21:51 | |
Now it's becoming more difficult and more dangerous, | 1:21:51 | 1:21:54 | |
because the police know all the tricks. | 1:21:54 | 1:21:56 | |
It would be very nice to feel secure, | 1:22:05 | 1:22:08 | |
to be in your home - safe. | 1:22:08 | 1:22:11 | |
And this is the consequence of this job - paranoia. | 1:22:12 | 1:22:16 | |
You see, now I walk down the street and my head goes like... | 1:22:21 | 1:22:27 | |
Like a rear view mirror, you know? | 1:22:27 | 1:22:28 | |
Am I being followed? | 1:22:28 | 1:22:30 | |
Does anybody see me? Anybody follow me? | 1:22:30 | 1:22:33 | |
The habit lingers. | 1:22:33 | 1:22:35 | |
Even now, in my pocket, I have pills - had pills - | 1:22:36 | 1:22:38 | |
just in case. | 1:22:38 | 1:22:39 | |
But crisis throws you back in it. | 1:22:46 | 1:22:48 | |
You are used to a lot of money, lots of fun. | 1:22:48 | 1:22:52 | |
You have a reputation - easy money spent, easy money earned. | 1:22:52 | 1:22:56 | |
It burns quickly, so when you're left with no money, | 1:22:56 | 1:22:59 | |
you don't know how to do another job. | 1:22:59 | 1:23:01 | |
INTERCOM BUZZES | 1:23:01 | 1:23:03 | |
We have always old teams who work, who try to make new teams, | 1:23:22 | 1:23:27 | |
and at the same time, we have brand-new teams. | 1:23:27 | 1:23:31 | |
We have a lot of guys working in all Europe. | 1:23:31 | 1:23:35 | |
For me, they're more violent. | 1:23:36 | 1:23:39 | |
Already, their entrance in the jeweller's | 1:23:39 | 1:23:41 | |
is not so professional | 1:23:41 | 1:23:43 | |
and there could be mistakes inside, | 1:23:43 | 1:23:46 | |
and that could be more dangerous for us, | 1:23:46 | 1:23:50 | |
because the attitude of the bad guys could bring us to a tragic end. | 1:23:50 | 1:23:55 | |
Look, I must warn you something - | 1:24:07 | 1:24:09 | |
you cannot say the Pink Panthers' era is over, | 1:24:09 | 1:24:14 | |
because you don't know what will happen next. | 1:24:14 | 1:24:17 | |
It is maybe just the end of one generation. | 1:24:20 | 1:24:24 | |
But what is going on with the other teams from other countries | 1:24:26 | 1:24:30 | |
that want to do the same? | 1:24:30 | 1:24:31 | |
Maybe we are just witnessing the development. | 1:24:33 | 1:24:35 | |
I went back to Dimitrovgrad. | 1:24:51 | 1:24:54 | |
Bad. Very bad. | 1:24:54 | 1:24:55 | |
I was physically and mentally shaken, | 1:25:08 | 1:25:10 | |
and after all that luxury, I was completely broken down. | 1:25:10 | 1:25:14 | |
I was depressed. | 1:25:14 | 1:25:16 | |
But I realised that I have to carry on with my life. | 1:25:16 | 1:25:18 | |
I got married to a man who gave me hope. | 1:25:20 | 1:25:22 | |
He was completely legal. | 1:25:22 | 1:25:24 | |
He wasn't corrupt, he wasn't criminal. | 1:25:24 | 1:25:27 | |
But I finally started a new life with him. | 1:25:27 | 1:25:30 | |
I started a family. | 1:25:30 | 1:25:32 | |
BABY GURGLES | 1:25:32 | 1:25:34 | |
In my heart, I remain what I was. | 1:25:38 | 1:25:41 | |
Milan is the man I love. | 1:25:41 | 1:25:43 | |
But when kids come, you can't choose. | 1:25:43 | 1:25:46 | |
You have one path. | 1:25:46 | 1:25:48 | |
You cannot continue on criminal path. | 1:25:48 | 1:25:50 | |
My mother was very pious and with her, | 1:25:56 | 1:25:59 | |
I would sometimes pray to God before bedtime. | 1:25:59 | 1:26:01 | |
But also in those moments of hardship, | 1:26:05 | 1:26:07 | |
I would often go to church to light a candle, | 1:26:07 | 1:26:09 | |
to cry and to think about things. | 1:26:09 | 1:26:12 | |
And do you still believe in God? | 1:26:12 | 1:26:14 | |
Yes, yes, of course. And I teach my children. Of course. | 1:26:14 | 1:26:18 | |
We have to ask for His forgiveness. | 1:26:19 | 1:26:21 | |
And all these people who are criminals, believe me, | 1:26:22 | 1:26:25 | |
they believe in God more than regular people. | 1:26:25 | 1:26:29 | |
We have to pray a lot more for His forgiveness. | 1:26:29 | 1:26:32 | |
God is merciful. | 1:26:32 | 1:26:34 | |
And maybe He will. | 1:26:34 | 1:26:35 | |
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