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Would you raise your right hand, please?

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Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth

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-and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

-Yeah.

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Would you please give us your full name?

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Lance Armstrong.

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You understand that although we're in the conference room of your lawyers,

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you are giving testimony as if you are in a court of law?

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-Do you understand that?

-Correct.

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And that penalties of perjury attach to this deposition

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-just like they would to a court of law proceeding.

-Of course.

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There's been allegations

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regarding what has been alleged to be a steroid or cortisone in connection...

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-What do you mean, a steroid or a cortisone?

-Cortisone, I apologise.

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-Because they're different.

-I understand, believe me.

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One is actually anabolic and one is actually catabolic.

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Know what they've done with the money?

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I just told you I don't know.

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-Was it earmarked...

-Which part of "I don't know" do you not understand?

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-I'm just trying to make sure your testimony is clear.

-How many times do I have to say it?

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It can't be any clear than "I've never taken drugs".

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How clear is that?

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This programme contains some strong language.

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His name is Lance Armstrong, and today, if his legs feel strong,

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this 21-year-old Texan can become

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cycling's first million-dollar baby.

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Regardless of the million-dollar prize,

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it's been a race that I wanted to win all year long

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and now with that staring me in the face, it's an even bigger race.

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He's going for his third consecutive victory with only today's four states championship

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standing in the way of winning the Thrift Drug Triple Crown -

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look out Philadelphia,

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Lance is coming to town!

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There was this million-dollar prize, if Lance Armstrong

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could win, so all the pressure was on him, it was on the team.

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Thing is, he was the favourite going in - he was strong,

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he was beating up on everybody.

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I'll be disappointed with anything but a win.

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Lance had the chance to win it.

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But he knows, the man to beat that day, it was me.

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Philadelphia - it was my race, every year I was preparing for that race.

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And Frankie Andreu of Motorola

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who has slowed down the brakes...

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I remember Lance made a deal with some Italians.

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Stephen Swart,

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Davis Phinney, Tommy, the team have this deal with Lance.

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Lance Armstrong is flying up the wall, making it look almost effortless!

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The last three laps is when the race is decided.

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That's when Lance starts talking to me,

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he wants to make sure that I was in the plan,

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didn't want to take any risk.

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And he say, "We make a deal,

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"and I know you're the only one can come with me,

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"but don't come with me."

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And right on cue, Lance is out of the saddle,

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pushing himself into a higher gear.

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On my heart, on my deep heart, I don't want to do it,

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but when you have eight team-mates, you can't go against the team.

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The group could do nothing but watch Lance dance away into the lead

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as they, compared to Lance, seemed to be standing still.

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And so I pulled back and see him going. And he went.

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CHEERING

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And true to form, Lance doesn't disappoint them.

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Cycling's first million-dollar man, US Pro champion!

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Deep inside, I feel terrible, because I know I could have,

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I could have won it.

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For Lance, a joyous celebration with his mother.

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The success that Lance has seen and will continue to see

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of course makes me very proud, there's not a better gift.

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Lance has rolled the dice and come up a winner.

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It's a big day for me but I think it's a bigger day for cycling,

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everybody won today.

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As far as I know, Philly's been going around for 30 years

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and I don't think that's ever been done before.

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So, that's a huge chunk of change.

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After the race, Lance come to my room,

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with a cake box, a metal cake box, a Panettone

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and he just gave it to me and say "Merry Christmas".

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It was, like, 100,000.

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Cash.

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'This was a... This was a Lance Armstrong specialty.'

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'I really want to win a classic.'

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I mean, if you're going to put a lot of time into it,

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if I'm going to be 18, 19, 20 years old

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and I'm going to give up an education,

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-if I'm going to give up...

-That is what you did?

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Yeah, if I'm going to give up time at home,

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sure, it better be rewarding, in terms of money.

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'Always in the back of Lance's mind'

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was that great fortunes can be made in professional road racing.

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And for a poor kid growing up, hard scrabble in Texas, it's important.

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The next progression is to race in Europe, in the biggest pro races.

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Como, Italy, was kind of like the American base.

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A lot of 7-Eleven guys were living there, and at that time,

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Lance and I,

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I don't know how we got into the discussion, but we decided,

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"Hey, we'll live together for next year" and so I was like, "Sweet.

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"It'll be good, it'll be fun."

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It was great. You know, cooking, having risotto.

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I remember eating watermelon out on the balcony and we had this bad little car,

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that we used to get around.

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I mean, we weren't teenagers,

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but it was like teenagers just hanging out in Europe.

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Frankie was Lance's closest friend, and because I was dating Frankie,

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I became friends with Lance as well, and he was fun.

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He was fun to hang out with.

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And Lance and I had a unique relationship,

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because so many people from early on would just kow-tow to him,

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but with Lance, he would try to rib me, and try to just get me going,

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and so we would butt heads and we would argue.

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But we kind of, I think, enjoyed getting under each other's skin.

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Hello again, and welcome back to the Tour de France.

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We're at Stage 8 this morning and the sun is still shining...

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-The Tour de France...

-HE LAUGHS

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..REALLY hard.

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Racing bikes in Europe is bad for you, it's not healthy.

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You sacrifice a lot to be successful.

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CAR HORNS BEEP

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At the Tour de France, I was rooming with Lance, and I was like,

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"Lance, this is your day. This is the one you can win.

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And he was like, "Really, you think so? I'm like, "Yeah!"

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Armstrong is fifth down the line...

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Armstrong has the advantage...

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It's got, like, a little 6K climb at the end,

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I mean, it's power downhill sprint, it's perfect.

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And on that day, the whole team committed,

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led him out to the bottom of that climb

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and pretty much, "All right, go!"

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Armstrong boxed in by Dominique Arnould, who won the first stage of the Tour a year ago.

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They've pushed Armstrong very, very wide indeed as Pensec goes

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and Pensec really isn't a sprinter, this would be a surprise.

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Ronan Pensec leading out, now Armstrong goes, on the left of the picture,

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Lance Armstrong in his first Tour de France, they all said he was too young,

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but he gets it on the line!

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We met at the Motorola Hotel, he was only 21 years of age, he was riding

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the Tour for the first time

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and in that pathetic way of sports writers,

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we like to be able to say at some future point,

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"Oh, you know,

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"I interviewed Lance when he was just a kid in his first Tour",

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it was going to be like a badge of honour.

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That was a lot of fun. That was really -

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I think, just the way it went down with the last climb

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and guys were attacking and I was so motivated...

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When I asked him about what he felt like coming towards the end of race,

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he said, "Oh, when I get in the situation with the little group of 6 or 8 riders

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"and I know I've got a real chance of winning" he said, "I start to shriek and my body shakes.

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"And I think about my mum - she didn't raise a quitter."

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I had this sense of a guy who just wouldn't be beaten.

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Who through the force of his will and his personality,

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became almost somebody different.

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There's Dekker on the floor again!

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And Lance Armstrong has sprinted the gap closed...

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Lance Armstrong, who has joined...

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Now he's looking back and seeing nobody

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as he become champion of the world.

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Lance Armstrong, 21 years of age,

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is America's second only World ever Road Race Champion,

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beating the greatest man of the moment in world cycling,

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Miguel Indurain.

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He raised a smile there, but I think Miguel, very disappointed.

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And could it be that we're watching the man

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who will replace the great Greg LeMond in the years ahead,

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Lance Armstrong now.

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Indurain goes now, in what to him will hopefully re-establish him

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as the best rider...

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'Through 1993,'

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the races just increased, the speeds were so dramatic,

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it was night and day.

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One of the riders was told what was going on in the Spanish team.

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The rider just said, "Pff, you guys have no chance.

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"We're doing EPO, growth hormone, testosterone.

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"You'll never make it."

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He comes up to the line, 1 hour 50 and 58, 2 minutes precisely!

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Well, the way that guy came by...

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and that was probably part of the reason that I'm so wasted in the end

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because I tried to match his speed

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and he goes along the flats 55, 56, 57 K's an hour, I was 53.11.

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Getting dropped!

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We're talking about the speed of the peloton and this new drug EPO

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and talking about Dr Ferrari.

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Lance would have known Ferrari by reputation.

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Now he wanted to meet the man and start working with him.

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Ferrari had a reputation of being the best in the business.

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If you wanted to win races, win the Tour,

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you go see this guy and he's going to set you up.

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As good as that reputation was, everybody knew that if you went

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to see Ferrari, you were going to get doped.

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So Lance kept it a secret from everyone for a long time.

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And Lance had the intelligence to see that Ferrari was special

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in terms of his understanding of physiology,

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and of the drugs and how they interacted.

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With his charisma and his natural intelligence,

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Lance was able to endear himself to Ferrari,

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become the Adam of what would be Ferrari's creation.

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You keep doing your job as Frankenstein

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and I'll be the best monster you've ever created.

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And Ferrari loved him for that.

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You know, the pupil from heaven.

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The train just started rolling full blast,

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just like, it was just...

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reefing across the landscape.

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It is, he's gone. Armstrong has gone,

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the sort of thing he did in the World Championship at Oslo.

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Is this man on the start of his greatest ever season?

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Travelling at nearly 40mph,

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Armstrong showing enormous determination.

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You couldn't develop a product more perfect for the ravages

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of endurance athletics than EPO.

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Armstrong has done it today.

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EPO was done in secret.

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You never knew what anybody else was doing.

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Even for the top, top guys,

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they never knew what the other guy was doing, so everybody thought

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they had to do more in order to be able to win, or to keep up.

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I was tired of getting beat up on,

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tired of getting dropped and watching fat sprinters get over

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category-one climbs and win. Getting thrown out the back of the group.

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"I'm going to, I'm not going to." You know, sleepless nights,

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figuring out, and then...

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-You did a great job.

-We're going, "That's out Frankie!"

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-That's great. Congratulations.

-Thanks a lot.

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Have you been enjoying the Tour de France?

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No comment.

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Sure enough, eventually I cracked.

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Yeah, drove to Switzerland and pretty much just walked

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into a pharmacy, just like, could have bought chewing gum.

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It was that easy.

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But then the punch-up started.

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Lance Armstrong, number 61 for the Motorola Team.

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When you're racing, you think you're invincible.

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You think you can do anything, nothing's going to stop you,

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nothing's going to harm you and then all of a sudden...

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From the beginning of the Tour, I knew that I was a step off,

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and a lot of times when your body is down like that,

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then a virus or any illness will move in and take over.

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That evening the phone rings, and I hear Lance's neighbour

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on the other end, and he said "Linda, I don't know any easy way

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"to tell you this, but Lance has been diagnosed with cancer."

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It literally crushed every single piece of me on the inside.

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On Wednesday October 2nd, I was diagnosed with testicular cancer.

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Prior to seeing my doctor last week,

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I'd been experiencing swelling

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and pain in one of my testicles,

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and I'd coughed up some blood.

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On Thursday October 3rd, I underwent

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surgery at St David's hospital

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here in Austin, to have the malignant testicle removed.

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A CAT scan was also performed the same day.

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The CAT scan revealed that my condition has spread into my abdomen.

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At the time, I think most people would have suggested,

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with the brain metastases and such,

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that at best you'd cure maybe one out of three of those people.

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It was awful, and I thought how in the hell does a guy

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who's in such good shape, so young, get cancer?

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The first impression I got,

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which is the impression I get from a lot of people,

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is that he was scared.

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He was certainly looking at very primal aspects.

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You know, saving his life or not,

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and a lot of secondary consequences - his career,

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family, future kids. All that.

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We wanted to go see Lance, and the time to see him

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was after his brain surgery,

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and so Frankie and I made the six-hour drive to Indiana.

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And that was the first time I'd seen him since the announcement,

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and I remember seeing the big horseshoe scar

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on the top of his head.

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We went into the room and it was a football game,

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Dallas Cowboys football game was playing. So he was in there,

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his girlfriend at the time Lisa Shields was there,

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and Stephanie McIlvain, the rep from Oakley was there.

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Chris Carmichael, his coach, was there with Paige, I think.

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And the doctors came in, and when the doctors came in...

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..they said, "Oh, you know, we need to ask you some questions."

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I said, "We should leave, let him have his privacy."

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And Lance said, "No, no, no. Don't worry about it.

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"You guys can stay, no problem." And I said, "OK, we'll stay."

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They asked a few banal questions, and then one of them was

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"Have you ever used any performance-enhancing drugs?"

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And Lance, just nonchalantly holding on to his IV, staring down,

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rattled off, "Yeah, EPO, testosterone, growth hormone, cortisone and steroids."

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And at that point my jaw was, like, holy shit,

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because Betsy's sitting right next to me.

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I don't know what the hell she's thinking.

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And I was like, "We got to go."

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And we stood up and walked out of the room, right away.

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I was furious, because I said to him,

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"That's how Lance got his cancer,

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"and if you're doing that, I'm not marrying you."

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We were just engaged six weeks earlier.

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She was upset that he was taking that stuff.

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She was crazy, like, if I was taking that stuff, then if you're

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taking all that stuff, it obviously is going to affect your health.

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Because I thought, "Oh, my gosh, is this going on?

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"Is everybody doing this?" And Frankie swore to me no.

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Had to do with trust, and is she going to marry me?

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So, you know, it was, yeah, you know, I think she even

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right there on the spot threatened, like, "I'm not marrying you

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"if you're doing all that stuff".

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I was just ready to call the whole thing off.

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Before cancer,

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Lance had signed up for the French Team Cofidis.

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It wasn't know if he would live or race bikes again.

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All of those things were not known.

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I still have a ways to go on the bike.

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Does it sound like some kind of miracle cure?

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No, it's not a miracle. Everything was...

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The therapy was normal therapy.

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I had to do just as much as everybody else.

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He made the decision to go because they were astonished to see him

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there, and then he decided he would carry on to Italy

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and see Michele Ferrari, for what would have been

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really just a friend-to-friend visit.

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That is extraordinary,

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because it indicated

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that in a relatively short time,

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he and Michele Ferrari had become very close,

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and it was also a visit to say,

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"If I come back and I make a full recovery, I'm going to achieve

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"everything I ever wanted to achieve, whatever it takes,

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"and I want you working with me."

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The American Mafia.

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Took him a long time to find a team

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and a structure that would make it worthwhile.

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When I tried to come back, there was no interest. None.

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And then finally signed the deal with the US Postal Team.

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I think that if I were to come back and to win,

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and to be successful, I would consider that a complete recovery,

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as an athlete.

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As much as Lance wanted to win, Thom Weisel wanted to win,

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and he was the creator of the US Postal Team.

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People talk about Lance being this kind of ruthless alpha male leader.

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Tom Weisel was one of those. You know, a ruthless guy.

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Lance's first contract was for minimal wages.

0:18:400:18:44

Weisel said, "Go out there, win races,

0:18:440:18:48

"prove you're back competitive and I'll give you a huge bonus."

0:18:480:18:51

And he went after those bonuses like, tooth and nail.

0:18:510:18:55

Lance, that's 40 seconds on Masolini and one minute and ten seconds.

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On certain teams, you have riders that are acquaintances.

0:19:100:19:14

He was just smiling a minute ago!

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Or co-workers.

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That '99 Tour Team, we were friends and good friends.

0:19:180:19:21

We were just, we were close.

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It was a close-knit group of riders.

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Hincapie, Livingston, Vande Velde, Lance,

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and we would do anything for each other.

0:19:300:19:32

I hate the French. Screw the French.

0:19:320:19:35

Frankie was on that team, Tyler Hamilton was on that team.

0:19:350:19:38

When I got selected to do the team,

0:19:380:19:41

I told my parents. I told them to come over

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because this is probably the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity

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to see me in the Tour de France.

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Lance, Kristin, Frankie and I were driving

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from Milano to Sanremo, and Lance had to make a stop to see Ferrari,

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which was outside of Milano,

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in the parking lot of a hotel gas station...

0:20:010:20:06

..in Ferrari's camper van.

0:20:070:20:09

And I said, "Why are you meeting him here?

0:20:100:20:13

"Isn't that odd, you meeting Ferrari, your doctor, here?"

0:20:130:20:16

He said, "So the fucking journalists don't find out."

0:20:160:20:20

And I said, "Well, what's wrong, if the journalists find out?"

0:20:200:20:24

And he just looked at me and he glared.

0:20:240:20:26

Kristin and I had to waste about an hour

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until Lance was done doing his tests with Ferrari.

0:20:310:20:35

When he was finished, Lance was pretty excited,

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and he said, "My numbers are great."

0:20:400:20:44

And then he got in the car,

0:20:440:20:45

he looked through his rear view mirror, he looked at me

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and he said, "Frankie could get results too, but he's too cheap."

0:20:480:20:51

He told me a bunch of times, that I needed to step up,

0:20:510:20:54

and I should go see Ferrari. You know, there's no way.

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I just felt like if I was even linked as going to see Ferrari,

0:20:570:21:00

that automatically meant I was a doper.

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The danger about EPO and there in France was, you know,

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there was a big bust the year before.

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Riders and staff went to jail.

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French police raided the hotel rooms of several leading riders

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and found stashes of performance-enhancing drugs.

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Another leading rider was missing from the line-up,

0:21:200:21:24

in police custody...

0:21:240:21:25

It was the year after the Festina affair, where a lot of drugs

0:21:250:21:28

were caught within a team.

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The team couldn't risk taking it to the race.

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You know, we'd lose the sponsor right away.

0:21:330:21:37

To get EPO for the Tour de France, we came up with a plan.

0:21:390:21:43

Well, after last year's sensational Tour de France,

0:21:440:21:47

who knows what we can expect this time around.

0:21:470:21:49

Departure of the man everybody is talking about, Richard Virenque.

0:21:490:21:54

Did you hear that cheer?

0:21:540:21:56

The plan had Motorman involved.

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Motorman was a French...

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He used to be a gardener/handyman

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for Lance Armstrong. He loved to ride motorcycles.

0:22:060:22:10

Back to Abraham Olano,

0:22:100:22:12

I think probably the number one favourite now.

0:22:120:22:14

He would follow the race, always stay within probably

0:22:140:22:18

a half-hour drive from our hotel.

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The best finisher of a year ago, Bobby Julich.

0:22:200:22:22

He's based everything on this month, the Tour de France,

0:22:220:22:25

he wants to be the American winner.

0:22:250:22:27

But the man doing great times out on the course, Phil, is Lance Armstrong.

0:22:270:22:30

He hasn't been here for a couple of years because of his illness

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but he's back now.

0:22:330:22:34

Motor Man would basically just wait for a phone call.

0:22:360:22:38

The EPO would arrive, you know, in the evening.

0:22:380:22:42

He's just about done. 8.18, Chris Boardman.

0:22:420:22:46

8 minutes and 12 seconds for Abraham Olano

0:22:480:22:52

8.09, Zulle has rewritten the finishing order for now.

0:22:520:22:56

And Armstrong coming up now,

0:22:560:22:58

can he get off to a great start in the Tour de France?

0:22:580:23:00

He is aiming at eight minutes and nine seconds,

0:23:000:23:02

he's certainly ahead of Chris Boardman

0:23:020:23:05

at this point, my goodness me!

0:23:050:23:07

8:02.51, Lance Armstrong,

0:23:070:23:09

with that performance, I think may have done enough.

0:23:090:23:13

The team doctor, Garcia del Moral, he knew about it.

0:23:210:23:25

Johan Bruyneel knew about it.

0:23:270:23:29

You were right there in the heart of the Tour de France,

0:23:320:23:35

you know?

0:23:350:23:38

Thousands and thousands of people around the team camper.

0:23:380:23:41

-All the way from Indianapolis!

-No time, sorry.

0:23:410:23:44

I remember just trying to get rid of it as quickly as possible.

0:23:450:23:48

You quickly just stuck it in, got rid of it.

0:23:480:23:52

then it was quickly hidden away, typically in like, a Coke can.

0:23:520:23:56

It was nerve-racking,

0:23:580:24:00

but yet, at the time, it was kind of exciting too,

0:24:000:24:02

cos you were being such a deviant.

0:24:020:24:05

Sestriere, the first big mountain day.

0:24:070:24:09

Destination's Sestriere, 213km of distance...

0:24:090:24:13

We had a job to set up Lance, to keep him as fresh as possible

0:24:130:24:16

till that final climb.

0:24:160:24:18

US Postal, where the pace-making up the climb was done by Frankie Andreu.

0:24:180:24:22

We had to set the tempo, to be able to keep things together,

0:24:220:24:25

and then riding on the front like a drag race,

0:24:250:24:28

as hard as we could to the bottom of the climb,

0:24:280:24:30

turn and then start riding as hard as I could, like a field sprint.

0:24:300:24:34

When I was watching the Tour on TV,

0:24:360:24:40

I saw Frankie climbing,

0:24:400:24:43

leading the pack up a mountain in Sestriere.

0:24:430:24:47

He doesn't specialise in sprinting,

0:24:470:24:49

he doesn't specialise in mountain climbing.

0:24:490:24:51

He just specialises in being the worker bee,

0:24:510:24:54

so when Frankie was actually pulling on Sestriere,

0:24:540:25:00

it just didn't make sense.

0:25:000:25:03

And so I called a friend of mine in Paris,

0:25:030:25:06

and I said "Are you seeing what I'm seeing?"

0:25:060:25:09

And she said, "Yeah, isn't it great? Frankie's doing wonderful.

0:25:090:25:12

"He's doing so well." And I said, "Wonderful, my ass.

0:25:120:25:15

"He's not a climber, he should not be pulling.

0:25:150:25:18

An attack there by Armstrong.

0:25:180:25:21

Look at the acceleration of this as he chases down those motorbikes.

0:25:230:25:27

Five and a half hours he's been pedalling today,

0:25:270:25:29

marking everything, never looking distressed

0:25:290:25:31

and now he's going to try and tear this race apart.

0:25:310:25:34

That was an unbelievable attack, he took a lot of risk to go up

0:25:340:25:36

through the inside there. There was hardly any room at all.

0:25:360:25:39

Armstrong is so comfortable, he jumped across that gap.

0:25:390:25:41

That gap was up to 30 seconds.

0:25:410:25:43

We're watching the Sestriere stage, and it was shocking.

0:25:430:25:46

It was like, "Oh, my God, he's dropping riders, dropping climbers."

0:25:460:25:49

This man has managed to come back from the face of death...

0:25:490:25:53

One of the mechanics was right next to me,

0:25:530:25:56

and he said, "Il est sur le jus."

0:25:560:25:58

And Armstrong is ripping the legs off this climber right now.

0:25:580:26:02

"Il est sur le jus." Like, he's on the juice.

0:26:020:26:04

And I'm like, "What?" He said, "He's on the juice."

0:26:040:26:07

He is going faster and faster, and he is going to win this...

0:26:070:26:11

I said, "How do you know?"

0:26:110:26:13

He said, "Look at his eyes, his breathing.

0:26:130:26:15

"There's no suffering."

0:26:150:26:17

It's almost like whatever they're doing,

0:26:210:26:23

they got so much oxygen, it's like they're not feeling the pain.

0:26:230:26:26

He's talking on his radio, his phone, and it was surreal.

0:26:330:26:38

And the rain starts again as Lance Armstrong conquers Sestriere now.

0:26:420:26:46

He heads up towards the line.

0:26:460:26:48

Now he's ridden fast and dropped his rivals, mano-a-mano.

0:26:480:26:51

This will be some victory salute.

0:26:510:26:53

It will be a while before we know if it is as the winner

0:26:530:26:55

of the Tour de France, but there are few people in this race now

0:26:550:26:59

will doubt that. Lance Armstrong comes across the line

0:26:590:27:02

winner today of the mountain stage of the Tour de France.

0:27:020:27:06

He is really ripping the race apart.

0:27:100:27:12

And so that night after the race I called Frankie, and I said,

0:27:200:27:23

"What in the hell was that?"

0:27:230:27:25

And he said, "What was what?"

0:27:250:27:28

"What are you doing? What are you taking?

0:27:280:27:30

"I don't believe you. This is bullshit.

0:27:300:27:32

There are a lot of secrets, lot of secrets, lot of...

0:27:340:27:37

It was almost like I was in this just bizarre movie,

0:27:370:27:40

some sort of wild western movie.

0:27:400:27:42

Lance Armstrong, le maillot jaune, soupconne de Dopage...

0:27:420:27:46

But something didn't go right.

0:27:460:27:49

It was the UCI really who alerted us.

0:27:520:27:54

En matiere de Dopage, Lance Armstrong n'a rien a cacher...

0:27:540:27:58

After winning the prologue, you're tested.

0:27:580:28:00

But then everybody saw you speaking to the Italians

0:28:000:28:02

so is it just an English language ban?

0:28:020:28:04

When Lance was tested for that, when the results came back,

0:28:040:28:07

he had high levels of corticosteroids in his system.

0:28:070:28:11

Cortisone definitely worked.

0:28:110:28:13

You know, you could push through to a whole 'nother level on it,

0:28:130:28:16

so over the years, I myself took cortisone many times -

0:28:160:28:20

not for injuries, but for performance enhancement.

0:28:200:28:23

Now you're going to speak...?

0:28:230:28:24

-Actually, we were looking for you in there.

-You were? OK.

0:28:240:28:28

Lance had asked us to pick up something from the Spanish doctor in Spain.

0:28:290:28:32

What these people need to remember is that I was

0:28:320:28:35

the World Champion in 1993 when nobody had heard of drugs.

0:28:350:28:38

So I went down to Spain, picked up the product.

0:28:380:28:41

That was cloak and dagger.

0:28:410:28:43

Nobody had heard of EPO.

0:28:430:28:45

Johan, he just kind of passed it as he's walking by, he just passed

0:28:450:28:49

it into my hand and said, "Lovely day." Just to make sure I had it.

0:28:490:28:52

I've proven my class. I've shown my class, from day one.

0:28:520:28:56

Then we were getting back up to the border to go into France,

0:28:560:28:58

there's never a queue at this border.

0:28:580:29:01

There's no secrets here.

0:29:010:29:03

There was a queue. I'd seen what happened after the Festina affair

0:29:030:29:07

and I thought, "Oh, God - I could be one of these that got picked up

0:29:070:29:11

"last year in the Tour," and I must have aged about ten years.

0:29:110:29:15

We have the oldest secret in the book - hard work.

0:29:150:29:18

So, but luckily enough, we didn't get stopped.

0:29:180:29:20

Came back to France and gave Lance the little bottle

0:29:200:29:23

in the car park of McDonalds and Frasiers.

0:29:230:29:25

We needed to come up with a proper plan that we're on the same page.

0:29:290:29:34

So while I'm giving Lance his massage,

0:29:340:29:36

the others from the team came in.

0:29:360:29:39

The problem that had to be sorted was that Lance

0:29:390:29:41

didn't have a prescription for corticosteroids,

0:29:410:29:44

so the idea was then that the doctor would write a prescription for that,

0:29:440:29:48

but backdate it to pre the prologue,

0:29:480:29:50

and just pretend it was a cream that Lance was taking for saddle sores.

0:29:500:29:54

And then as we kind of come to the end of the whole conversation

0:29:560:30:00

about steroids, Lance just goes,

0:30:000:30:02

"Oh, well, now you know enough to bring me down."

0:30:020:30:04

The next day was the press conference,

0:30:040:30:06

and everything could just blow up in everybody's faces.

0:30:060:30:09

To think I'm going to come back into sport and risk my life

0:30:090:30:11

with performance-enhancing drugs is crazy.

0:30:110:30:13

When I tried to come back to the sport, nobody gave me a chance.

0:30:130:30:16

Nobody gave me a chance.

0:30:160:30:17

"So he must be doing something", so it's the same mentality.

0:30:170:30:19

It's the same mentality, it's consistent through and through.

0:30:190:30:22

Tonight, he has some very high-level help

0:30:220:30:25

because the UCI, the world governing body of cycling,

0:30:250:30:27

have just released this press communique.

0:30:270:30:29

They confirm basically that the rider used an ointment,

0:30:290:30:32

and they give the brand name,

0:30:320:30:33

and that he also offered them a medical prescription

0:30:330:30:35

before his test.

0:30:350:30:38

He comes up to the line - 16 seconds, 15, 14,

0:30:380:30:41

it is getting desperately close here.

0:30:410:30:43

Zulle versus Armstrong,

0:30:430:30:44

and Zulle loses! Armstrong is the winner,

0:30:440:30:46

he has achieved yet another page in this fairy story

0:30:460:30:50

that just goes on.

0:30:500:30:54

I'm so proud of my son, always have been,

0:30:550:30:57

and the fact that we overcame cancer, and we're here today,

0:30:570:31:01

in the yellow jersey.

0:31:010:31:02

And when you see him tomorrow in the yellow jersey on the Champs-Elysees?

0:31:020:31:07

A picture without words.

0:31:070:31:10

..the winner of the Tour de France, in a big field,

0:31:170:31:20

is the American Lance Armstrong, and what a ride that has been.

0:31:200:31:24

It will be remembered in the millennium

0:31:240:31:26

as one of the finest sporting achievements in the history

0:31:260:31:29

of not just cycling, but any sport.

0:31:290:31:31

Back in his home state of Texas, they are celebrating a hero.

0:31:310:31:36

The most fantastic feeling, we're just so proud of him

0:31:360:31:39

and this whole team, they just...

0:31:390:31:40

It's absolutely incredible and we're

0:31:400:31:42

so excited to celebrate tonight

0:31:420:31:44

all of us!

0:31:440:31:46

We were talking about how our lives were going to change,

0:31:460:31:50

and so I asked the question,

0:31:500:31:53

"So, what do you think about EPO, Kristin?"

0:31:530:31:57

"Oh, it's a necessary evil."

0:31:570:31:59

And I thought, "Oh, my God,

0:31:590:32:02

"she doesn't care.

0:32:020:32:05

"She just doesn't care."

0:32:050:32:06

-Smile - say cheese!

-Howdy!

0:32:090:32:11

Congratulations, friend, on behalf of all of us in Texas and America,

0:32:110:32:16

we're so proud of you.

0:32:160:32:18

He went up and he went up. Lance is on the wheel.

0:32:180:32:22

There's Tyler.

0:32:220:32:24

Take it easy on camera.

0:32:240:32:26

-Luis!

-How are you? Are you tired today?

0:32:260:32:29

No. Be well.

0:32:290:32:32

Carmichael and Stapleton, unbelievable. They're so serious.

0:32:320:32:37

The man, the myth - Johan Bruyneel.

0:32:370:32:40

-Say hello to my family.

-Hi, family!

0:32:400:32:43

In Texas, all eyes were on

0:32:450:32:46

American Tour de France winner Lance Armstrong.

0:32:460:32:49

A parade was held in his honour in Austin,

0:32:490:32:51

Armstrong's adopted hometown.

0:32:510:32:53

Many people wore yellow, the colour of the winner's jersey...

0:32:530:32:56

STOCK MARKET BELL RINGS

0:33:000:33:03

..proclaim July 29 in the city of New York as

0:33:030:33:05

Lance Armstrong Day.

0:33:050:33:07

..Cycling's biggest prize, the Tour de France,

0:33:090:33:12

the first American winner to lead an American team,

0:33:120:33:15

and in record time at that.

0:33:150:33:17

Nobody believed in us, nobody believed that

0:33:210:33:24

if Lance Armstrong took the yellow jersey, with the help of his team,

0:33:240:33:27

on stage eight, how could they keep it to stage 22?

0:33:270:33:29

They thought the team would crack.

0:33:290:33:31

But that team of seven out of nine guys being American,

0:33:310:33:33

an American team, an American sponsor,

0:33:330:33:35

they were the strongest team in the race.

0:33:350:33:37

And everybody in Paris knew that.

0:33:370:33:39

And I can assure you that next year's Tour de France,

0:33:390:33:43

there will be no, there'll be no doubters.

0:33:430:33:46

Welcome to Futuroscope on the outskirts of Poitiers,

0:33:520:33:55

and to the 87th running of the Tour de France.

0:33:550:33:58

All of a sudden they're talking about this EPO test coming out.

0:33:580:34:03

Le mouvement cycliste est d'accord

0:34:030:34:06

de faire...

0:34:060:34:08

We didn't know exactly when it was coming out, but no longer

0:34:080:34:12

could you feel 100% safe.

0:34:120:34:14

You take a shot of EPO, you know,

0:34:170:34:18

you can get tested the next day or the day after that.

0:34:180:34:21

We weren't 100% sure we were going to test negative.

0:34:210:34:24

So that's when we did a blood transfusion.

0:34:260:34:29

Who was organising all of that?

0:34:320:34:35

Lance and Johan Bruyneel, and the doctor, del Moral,

0:34:350:34:40

had told me a couple of days before we made a trip down to Spain.

0:34:400:34:45

You know, my first time doing it.

0:34:450:34:49

And it seemed kind of, sort of caveman-like.

0:34:490:34:53

You know, taking out your own blood,

0:34:530:34:55

not seeing it for three or four weeks.

0:34:550:34:58

Weather conditions out here really have been atrocious.

0:35:020:35:05

It's only around about six or seven degrees Celsius...

0:35:050:35:08

The night before our first rest day, we were in this small hotel,

0:35:080:35:13

just south of Mont Ventoux, which is a famous climb in France.

0:35:130:35:17

20 minutes before it actually happened,

0:35:170:35:20

they told me, "We're doing the transfusion."

0:35:200:35:22

Re-infuse the blood, tonight.

0:35:220:35:25

I arrived in my room and it was pretty wild.

0:35:300:35:33

The staff had sort of prepared everything, the doctors.

0:35:330:35:36

There was a blood bag taped up on the wall.

0:35:360:35:40

You know, a red tube coming down,

0:35:400:35:42

a tube filled with blood coming down.

0:35:420:35:45

Basically, they, you know, injected me here.

0:35:450:35:49

I have pretty small veins,

0:35:490:35:52

so the one place that always worked was right there.

0:35:520:35:55

And it's, you can see the scars today...

0:35:550:35:58

It was a big needle. It's a serious needle.

0:35:580:36:01

You don't mess around with those things.

0:36:010:36:03

Halfway through it, I'm like, almost shivering,

0:36:040:36:07

because, you know, these bags have been, you know, in a refrigerator.

0:36:070:36:11

So they're almost like, you know, just taking icy cold water,

0:36:110:36:13

nearly a gallon of it, and pouring it down your throat.

0:36:130:36:16

I never did, you know, blood transfusions,

0:36:190:36:21

growth hormone, whatever.

0:36:210:36:23

I wasn't willing to get into a full doping programme.

0:36:230:36:27

Betsy was upset, so that was definitely on my mind.

0:36:270:36:31

A little bit of being scared of getting caught.

0:36:310:36:33

Here is the Devil,

0:36:350:36:37

probably wishing some luck to the US Postal riders today...

0:36:370:36:40

I think we were all pretty nervous, but almost giddy about it.

0:36:400:36:43

We're in the heart of France doing this completely illegal procedure.

0:36:430:36:48

US Postal were pace-making by Frankie Andreu,

0:36:480:36:51

but he paid the price.

0:36:510:36:52

I remember, the third week I was dead.

0:36:520:36:56

I mean, barely able to get through it, and just, you know,

0:36:560:36:59

it's not an option to quit. That's the only reason I got through it,

0:36:590:37:03

but I was getting dropped and in the back, and I was suffering a lot.

0:37:030:37:06

I think he'll just about get in but he's aiming at the time

0:37:060:37:10

of 15.27. We're watching probably the second-fastest time trial

0:37:100:37:14

in the history of the Tour de France...

0:37:140:37:16

I had done a lot to help Lance Armstrong,

0:37:160:37:18

I had done a lot to help the team,

0:37:180:37:20

and I just wanted to race one more year, but they had different thoughts.

0:37:200:37:23

Armstrong rocks and rolls his way home here now.

0:37:230:37:25

His time is 15.01, he wins the time trial.

0:37:250:37:30

Fantastic. I will definitely come back.

0:37:300:37:32

I will definitely be back next year.

0:37:320:37:34

I don't know how many more years, but definitely be back next year.

0:37:340:37:37

He finished 111th, but on Lance's team,

0:37:370:37:40

it doesn't pay to finish 111th when you're at the Tour.

0:37:400:37:45

I would say, Johan, thanks for giving us the vision,

0:37:470:37:49

but we already had the vision, so...

0:37:490:37:53

Here we are at this Tour de France party with hundreds of people

0:37:560:38:00

and everybody is celebrating the cancer survivor's

0:38:000:38:04

incredible win at the most gruelling sporting event in the world.

0:38:040:38:07

What wasn't there to celebrate?

0:38:070:38:10

It was a fraud.

0:38:100:38:12

It was a fraud.

0:38:120:38:14

CHEERING

0:38:170:38:20

Stephanie McIlvain wasn't invited to the Tour De France party,

0:38:250:38:29

which we found very peculiar

0:38:290:38:30

given that she was Lance's personal liaison,

0:38:300:38:33

so she went as our guest and we clicked and a friendship was born.

0:38:330:38:38

Stephanie had been there with us visiting Lance in Indiana,

0:38:390:38:44

and the hospital incident came up,

0:38:440:38:47

and Stephanie and I were marvelling at how

0:38:470:38:50

Lance was snowballing the American media,

0:38:500:38:55

because they were just buying into this fairy tale.

0:38:550:38:58

It seemed like it worked, seemed like it worked.

0:39:030:39:06

Now, looking back, "Oh, my God, what was I doing?"

0:39:060:39:10

But you're so deep into it, you know, you don't even have time

0:39:100:39:14

to take a half step back and look at the big picture.

0:39:140:39:18

I think if we all stepped back

0:39:180:39:20

and looked at the great franchises that have been built...

0:39:200:39:23

I'm glad we didn't get caught.

0:39:230:39:26

I would have been...

0:39:260:39:28

We all would have been.

0:39:280:39:30

It became very divided.

0:39:390:39:40

You were on Lance's side or you were on my side.

0:39:400:39:42

And ultimately, you know, he had control of who was hired,

0:39:420:39:45

fired, and whichever.

0:39:450:39:46

Frankie was a good guy.

0:39:500:39:52

To have your career end

0:39:520:39:54

because you wouldn't get on Lance's doping programme?

0:39:540:39:57

It's just, it's not right.

0:39:570:39:59

Please welcome 1999's ESPY comeback athlete of the year...

0:39:590:40:03

We're all in this together, it's going to touch all our lives.

0:40:030:40:06

We will win this fight one day.

0:40:060:40:09

Lance called me one day

0:40:090:40:12

and said, "We're putting together this foundation.

0:40:120:40:15

"We're going to focus on testicular cancer."

0:40:150:40:18

Tour de France, baby. Lance Armstrong. Maillot jaune.

0:40:200:40:25

Thank you, Lance, thank you! I love you!

0:40:270:40:32

People believed in Lance. They believed in his story,

0:40:320:40:36

they believed in his hope.

0:40:360:40:37

We're all going to leave, I think,

0:40:370:40:39

with a different perspective on this illness,

0:40:390:40:41

and a different perspective on this movement called survivorship.

0:40:410:40:45

I tip my hat to Lance Armstrong

0:40:450:40:47

and to the whole US Postal Team.

0:40:470:40:49

The success of the foundation began to grow and succeed,

0:40:530:40:57

literally in tandem with Lance's success

0:40:570:41:01

Tour after Tour after Tour.

0:41:010:41:03

15,000. Can we go 20?

0:41:030:41:07

Sold, 30,000.

0:41:070:41:08

They approached me about exploring the possibility of coming down

0:41:100:41:15

and running the foundation.

0:41:150:41:17

Sold, 56,000.

0:41:170:41:18

My motivation, my primary motivation,

0:41:180:41:21

in taking that position,

0:41:210:41:24

was the fact that I had,

0:41:240:41:26

um...

0:41:260:41:28

a very personal experience.

0:41:280:41:31

I had been diagnosed with cancer.

0:41:310:41:34

We believe in life, your life.

0:41:340:41:38

Greg LeMond was my friend, and I called him.

0:41:380:41:41

And I begged him.

0:41:410:41:43

I said, "Steve, you won't make it."

0:41:430:41:45

I said, "You are way too ethical. I'm just telling you, don't do it."

0:41:450:41:50

But I needed to talk to Lance.

0:41:500:41:54

We met at a bar and I said,

0:41:550:41:59

"is there ANYTHING that might happen

0:41:590:42:02

"that would negatively impact

0:42:020:42:06

"the work of the foundation and me professionally?"

0:42:060:42:10

And he put his beer down and looked me in the eye...

0:42:100:42:13

..and said, "Steve, you have NOTHING to worry about.

0:42:150:42:18

"We're going to have a good ride on this.

0:42:180:42:20

"This is going to be great."

0:42:200:42:21

-COMMENTATOR:

-And there is Armstrong.

0:42:240:42:25

He's not looking good, he's all over his machine right now.

0:42:250:42:28

He doesn't look good, Phil. he should not be riding so far down the group.

0:42:280:42:31

He's obviously having a very hard day.

0:42:310:42:34

This is where you have to race alone and Armstrong's gone.

0:42:340:42:37

A big move by Lance, this

0:42:370:42:38

and no reply coming at all from Jan Ullrich.

0:42:380:42:41

Ullrich has got no answer to this.

0:42:410:42:43

He's fooled everybody in the Tour de France.

0:42:430:42:46

I never expected Armstrong to do this.

0:42:460:42:48

He has ripped the field apart and he is climbing now to the...

0:42:480:42:51

..and he was riding to win the Tour de France.

0:42:510:42:54

Now are we seeing the foundations

0:42:540:42:56

of the man who will win the Tour for the third time in Paris?

0:42:560:43:00

"Yes, that's the one I wanted and I've got it."

0:43:000:43:03

I had been convinced for some time

0:43:040:43:07

that Armstrong worked with Michele Ferrari.

0:43:070:43:09

FAINT ITALIAN VOICE

0:43:090:43:13

I got the Italian police to help me.

0:43:130:43:15

They got me evidence that Lance,

0:43:150:43:18

in the space of two years, spent 13 days in the town of Ferrara

0:43:180:43:22

and the only reason, if you were Lance Armstrong,

0:43:220:43:24

for being in Ferrara, was to see this doping doctor.

0:43:240:43:27

L'americain se rend au conference de presse - comme sur la route,

0:43:290:43:32

il n'a allude aucune question sur le Dopage.

0:43:320:43:35

-Wow!

-He had to do a press conference on the rest day in Pau.

0:43:350:43:38

I think this is a clean tour.

0:43:380:43:40

And in that press conference, 16 questions go,

0:43:400:43:43

no questions about doping and then bang,

0:43:430:43:45

first question is asked

0:43:450:43:47

and the doping questions then come like a,

0:43:470:43:49

like in an avalanche.

0:43:490:43:51

And as soon as the question turned to doping,

0:43:510:43:54

Lance did something quite strange.

0:43:540:43:56

I believe he's an honest man,

0:43:560:43:57

I believe he's a fair man and I believe he's an innocent man.

0:43:570:44:00

He started fixing his gaze on me.

0:44:000:44:03

and even though it was some journalist over here who asked the question,

0:44:030:44:07

Lance would refer to me in his answer.

0:44:070:44:09

I've never denied the relationship. Even to you.

0:44:090:44:12

DISTANT MOBILE PHONE ALERT Um...

0:44:120:44:14

People are not stupid.

0:44:160:44:18

They say, "Has Lance Armstrong ever tested positive?" No.

0:44:180:44:22

"Has Lance Armstrong been tested?" A lot.

0:44:220:44:24

But I found that just wholly unconvincing.

0:44:240:44:27

VOICE OF FRENCH TV REPORTER

0:44:270:44:30

Two weeks later, David Walsh called up

0:44:300:44:33

and I'm like, "God, I, I don't know what to say".

0:44:330:44:35

So I chose my words as well as I could

0:44:350:44:38

and I just said, "I'm disappointed he's seeing Ferrari".

0:44:380:44:41

And then David posed the question, now,

0:44:410:44:43

"if he's clean, would you consider this the greatest comeback

0:44:430:44:47

"in the history of sport?" And I said, "Absolutely".

0:44:470:44:50

And he said, "but what if he isn't?"

0:44:500:44:53

I said, "Then it would be the greatest fraud".

0:44:530:44:55

After that comment came out,

0:44:580:45:00

our whole lives changed in an hour

0:45:000:45:03

after that was published.

0:45:030:45:05

We went out to dinner

0:45:070:45:08

and Lance, he said, "Fucking LeMond.

0:45:080:45:11

"His comments about Ferrari

0:45:110:45:13

"and how he's disappointed that I'm working with Ferrari".

0:45:130:45:15

Lance flipped. You know, and at that dinner it was vent session.

0:45:150:45:18

"Who does Greg think he is? I'm going to destroy him",

0:45:180:45:21

all this kind of stuff.

0:45:210:45:22

And I said, "Yeah, but I thought Ferrari's a BAD guy".

0:45:220:45:26

And he just looked at me and he glared.

0:45:260:45:28

And he said, "I'm going to fuck him over".

0:45:300:45:33

DISTANT CHEERING

0:45:370:45:38

Lance returned to the US.

0:45:410:45:44

He was scheduled to throw

0:45:440:45:47

the opening game baseball at Yankee Stadium.

0:45:470:45:50

And he was sitting in his hotel room at the Four Seasons.

0:45:500:45:53

He calls Greg LeMond.

0:45:530:45:55

We were at bag claim,

0:45:590:46:00

Minneapolis airport, I had pulled up outside...

0:46:000:46:04

MOBILE PHONE RINGS FAINTLY ..and the phone rang

0:46:040:46:06

and Greg says, "It's Lance".

0:46:060:46:08

He said, "Oh, come on,

0:46:080:46:10

"your win in '89 was a miracle, just like mine,

0:46:100:46:12

"in '99", I said, whoa...

0:46:120:46:15

That's where you're wrong, buddy, cos mine wasn't a miracle.

0:46:160:46:19

I worked my ass off, I barely won by eight seconds.

0:46:190:46:22

-No miracle there.

-COMMENTATOR:

-..by eight seconds.

0:46:220:46:24

He said to Greg, "You're telling me YOU never did EPO?"

0:46:240:46:28

Absolutely not. "Oh, come on - everybody takes EPO."

0:46:280:46:31

And he mentioned drugs that I

0:46:310:46:34

never heard of. Hemasist, er, Hemopure, PFC's.

0:46:340:46:38

He listed probably ten drugs I'd never heard of.

0:46:380:46:41

"Is that what you think I'm on?" I'm like, whoa, um...

0:46:410:46:44

You know, he was VICIOUS.

0:46:440:46:47

He said, "Well, if you want to throw stones, I'll throw stones".

0:46:470:46:50

And he said, "I'll get people, I'll get ten people to say you took EPO".

0:46:500:46:54

Holy shit.

0:46:540:46:55

And Greg...

0:46:550:46:57

just said, "I'm sorry, but if anybody comes out saying I used EPO,

0:46:570:47:01

"I'm going to know it came from you

0:47:010:47:03

"and you paid 'em".

0:47:030:47:05

TELEPHONE RINGS

0:47:050:47:07

Cos I know that Steve was working at Lance Armstrong Foundation,

0:47:070:47:10

I called him just to say, you know, "This is what happened to me".

0:47:100:47:13

'This is Greg LeMond calling.'

0:47:130:47:14

He was clearly shaken.

0:47:140:47:16

And he proceeds over the course of 45 minutes to an hour

0:47:160:47:20

telling me exactly what had just transpired.

0:47:200:47:24

Including the threat.

0:47:240:47:26

The next day, I get a call from Lance.

0:47:260:47:29

And he proceeds to tell

0:47:290:47:32

of his conversation with Greg.

0:47:320:47:35

He was out of control, he was clearly drunk.

0:47:360:47:39

We've gotten reports back

0:47:390:47:41

that, "Oh, yeah, Greg had a drug and alcohol problem".

0:47:410:47:45

I actually had a reporter call and ask me one day,

0:47:450:47:48

if Greg had a heroin problem.

0:47:480:47:50

What was interesting

0:47:500:47:52

is Lance's version was completely different than Greg's version

0:47:520:47:57

and it was certainly at that moment in time I thought...

0:47:570:48:02

HE HUFFS AND CHUCKLES

0:48:020:48:05

I have been made a fool of.

0:48:050:48:07

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:48:090:48:11

'I packed my car and I drove out of Texas'

0:48:160:48:22

and the next day I resigned.

0:48:220:48:24

Absolutely, I had to learn a lot about the illness

0:48:240:48:27

and I had to learn a lot about my options.

0:48:270:48:29

Mm-hm. Did you ever consider the option of giving up?

0:48:290:48:32

Oh, no.

0:48:320:48:33

-APPLAUSE

-That's great. That's great.

0:48:330:48:36

Because it's not an option, is it?

0:48:360:48:38

It's just not an option.

0:48:380:48:40

-CAR HORNS

-Tyler Hamilton left the team,

0:48:490:48:51

because Tyler was incredibly ambitious

0:48:510:48:53

and he was resentful of Lance's profile.

0:48:530:48:56

He was a...absolutely driven guy, a bit like Lance,

0:48:560:49:01

had to win and Tyler thought the only way that I can win the Tour

0:49:010:49:05

is to be in another team

0:49:050:49:07

and when I go and leave this team

0:49:070:49:10

I then am going to get a doping programme

0:49:100:49:12

-just as good, if not better than Lance's.

-One, two...

0:49:120:49:16

There became more stresses, you know, having to

0:49:160:49:19

work with my own special doctor there in Spain,

0:49:190:49:22

having to organise those trips.

0:49:220:49:24

It wasn't the team handling it. WHISTLE

0:49:240:49:27

The easy part about the US Postal Service cycling team

0:49:270:49:30

for me in terms of doping was it was all kind of taken care of,

0:49:300:49:34

like, one-stop shopping.

0:49:340:49:35

Stuart O'Grady has moved too far back

0:49:350:49:37

and there's been a mass pile-up there, it was Tyler went down,

0:49:370:49:40

and the peloton completely crashing on the line.

0:49:400:49:43

And if Tyler Hamilton left the team, Lance needed

0:49:430:49:46

a young American guy, preferably, to take Tyler's place.

0:49:460:49:50

Floyd was the obvious example.

0:49:500:49:52

He was talented, he was gritty, he was tough

0:49:520:49:55

and he's saying to Johan, I'll do whatever it takes.

0:49:550:49:58

We have to make sure that we're not in a situation like Pyrenees, for example.

0:49:580:50:02

Floyd will remember that very well. Floyd.

0:50:020:50:04

Thanks for pointing that out, yes. I won't forget that any time soon.

0:50:040:50:07

You're 27 seconds faster than... INDISTINCT

0:50:070:50:10

..and 40 seconds faster than... INDISTINCT

0:50:100:50:12

Boys, come on, keep it together. We're going to win it.

0:50:120:50:15

There was a train here and it was dripping with gravy.

0:50:150:50:18

-COMMENTATOR:

-Here they are, a blue train.

0:50:180:50:20

And these guys were desperate to mop up as much as they could

0:50:200:50:23

for themselves.

0:50:230:50:24

Because the financial rewards were huge.

0:50:240:50:26

OK, OK, OK, OK!

0:50:260:50:29

This is the best team in the world right now.

0:50:290:50:32

I saw what I deemed a huge fraud

0:50:320:50:35

being played out on a world stage

0:50:350:50:39

and there was no place,

0:50:390:50:41

no place to turn.

0:50:410:50:42

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:50:420:50:44

Journalists approached me

0:50:440:50:47

and some of them had got questions they'd e-mailed me across

0:50:470:50:49

and stuff were very close to what was going on.

0:50:490:50:53

'All the peloton were on Armstrong's side.

0:50:530:50:55

'The sponsors are on Armstrong's side.

0:50:550:50:58

'The UCI were on Armstrong's side.

0:50:580:51:00

'Everybody had a stake in Lance being a success.

0:51:010:51:04

'And of course anybody who accused him'

0:51:040:51:07

was deemed an enemy of the sport.

0:51:070:51:10

-REPORTER:

-London sports writer, David Walsh

0:51:100:51:12

accuses Armstrong of doping in the book, LA Confidential.

0:51:120:51:16

The book, published only in France,

0:51:160:51:18

quotes Armstrong's former massage therapist,

0:51:180:51:20

who claims she covered up injection marks with make up.

0:51:200:51:23

I remember I was sweeping my sitting room floor,

0:51:230:51:26

Sky Sports is on.

0:51:260:51:28

In the corner of my eye I can see the ticker tape underneath it go,

0:51:280:51:31

and it says, "Former Armstrong masseuse, Emma O'Reilly..."

0:51:310:51:37

"spills the beans", blah, blah, blah. I'm thinking...

0:51:370:51:40

I have to say my first thought was, I am going to get David Walsh and wring his neck.

0:51:400:51:44

I'll say one thing about the book

0:51:440:51:46

and especially since our esteemed author is here...

0:51:460:51:49

In my view, I think extraordinary accusations

0:51:490:51:53

must be followed up

0:51:530:51:56

with extraordinary proof.

0:51:560:51:58

And they have not come up with extraordinary proof.

0:51:580:52:01

'Why couldn't it just be proof,'

0:52:010:52:03

that allegations must be followed up by proof?

0:52:030:52:07

And what Lance was saying is that, when you're an icon...

0:52:080:52:12

..who sits as high in the firmament as I do,

0:52:140:52:17

you have to have extraordinary proof to bring ME down.

0:52:170:52:21

And it was true. What he was saying was right.

0:52:210:52:24

Different rules apply to the gods.

0:52:240:52:27

And I am a god.

0:52:270:52:28

Mr Armstrong's legal team

0:52:300:52:32

was very concerned about the book

0:52:320:52:34

and wanted to discredit David Walsh.

0:52:340:52:37

They knew one of the sources was likely Betsy Andreu

0:52:370:52:40

and they wanted Betsy Andreu and Frankie Andreu

0:52:400:52:43

to distance themselves from the book and say Mr Walsh had it wrong.

0:52:430:52:46

Lance told me that his two, his two agents,

0:52:460:52:50

Bill Stapleton and Bart Knaggs wanted to talk with me.

0:52:500:52:53

So I was like, OK.

0:52:530:52:54

You know, I knew what was coming, I knew what it was going to be about.

0:52:540:52:57

He asked me, he said, "Shall I tape the conversation?"

0:52:570:53:00

I said, "Hell, yeah, because they'll say it never happened".

0:53:000:53:02

DISTANT CAR HORNS

0:53:040:53:05

We met in the parking lot of the Tour de France start

0:53:050:53:09

after everybody had, you know, all the riders had left and so,

0:53:090:53:12

I put a tape recorder in my pocket and I tape recorded everything.

0:53:120:53:15

Cos I didn't trust these guys, you know.

0:53:250:53:27

Still don't trust them.

0:53:270:53:29

They talked about how bad it would be for the sport

0:53:290:53:32

if Lance gets in trouble and all this comes out.

0:53:320:53:35

They wanted her to sign an affidavit

0:53:400:53:42

saying she would never go against Lance Armstrong for the rest of her life. Something crazy.

0:53:420:53:47

HE LAUGHS NERVOUSLY

0:54:020:54:04

You can imagine when I brought that up to Betsy,

0:54:040:54:06

"So, Bets, they want you to, er, sign something

0:54:060:54:09

"saying you'll never sue or go against Lance Armstrong" and it was,

0:54:090:54:11

it was just a bunch of cuss words.

0:54:110:54:13

Yeah! Because I saw what they were doing. It was ridiculous.

0:54:130:54:16

OK, first of all Frankie loses his job

0:54:180:54:20

because he won't get on a doping programme and now...

0:54:200:54:24

..they are trying to get me to sign something

0:54:250:54:30

to support Lance?

0:54:300:54:32

Whom I believe is cheating? It's not going to happen.

0:54:320:54:35

There's no argument who the champion is of the Tour de France.

0:54:350:54:39

And when I refused...

0:54:390:54:41

It's been four times now, how do you differentiate...

0:54:410:54:43

It just was not good for Frankie's career.

0:54:430:54:46

-Thank you, Lance.

-Thank you.

0:54:460:54:47

-COMMENTATOR:

-The yellow jersey is owned by only one man,

0:54:470:54:50

as it has been for the last eight days.

0:54:500:54:53

Lance Armstrong benefited from SCA and Bob Hammond paying

0:54:530:54:57

an enormous amount of prize money for him,

0:54:570:55:00

winning races that Lance Armstrong swore he won cleanly.

0:55:000:55:04

-COMMENTATOR:

-..as he races the line to the victory...

0:55:040:55:07

Total amount to Lance if he won all of the Tour de France races

0:55:070:55:10

came close to almost 10 million.

0:55:100:55:12

Lance, well done. Back for more next year?

0:55:120:55:14

Ha, ha. Probably.

0:55:140:55:16

When somebody consistently goes against the odds,

0:55:160:55:20

the evidence is that perhaps

0:55:200:55:22

the odds aren't what you think they are

0:55:220:55:24

and something else is present

0:55:240:55:27

and quite often that's cheating.

0:55:270:55:29

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:55:290:55:30

-COMMENTATOR:

-He is down the ramp for the last time in his career.

0:55:300:55:34

I've decided that the Tour de France will be my last race

0:55:340:55:37

as a professional cyclist.

0:55:370:55:38

It is the picture we will never see again.

0:55:380:55:42

A rider in yellow we've come to know since 1999.

0:55:420:55:45

You won't believe what the crowd are doing here.

0:55:450:55:48

They are leaping in every direction

0:55:480:55:50

as Lance Armstrong brings it to an end as a winner.

0:55:500:55:54

History in the making, he now retires

0:55:540:55:56

seven times a winner of the Tour De France.

0:55:560:55:58

-ANNOUNCER:

-Lance Armstrong!

0:55:580:56:01

The last thing I'll say for the people

0:56:010:56:03

that don't believe in cycling,

0:56:030:56:04

the cynics and the sceptics,

0:56:040:56:06

I'm sorry for you,

0:56:060:56:08

I'm sorry you can't dream big,

0:56:080:56:10

and I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles,

0:56:100:56:12

but this is one hell of a race.

0:56:120:56:13

This is a great sporting event and you should believe.

0:56:130:56:16

And, er...

0:56:160:56:17

Vive La Tour. For ever. Thank you.

0:56:170:56:21

AMERICAN NATIONAL ANTHEM

0:56:210:56:23

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:56:230:56:25

-BEEP

-Good morning, this begins video tape number one,

0:56:300:56:33

in the arbitration matter of Lance Armstrong et al

0:56:330:56:37

versus SCA Promotions Incorporated et al.

0:56:370:56:40

Bob Hamman kind of basically felt that he'd been duped,

0:56:400:56:43

he'd already paid Lance, I think four and a half million at that time,

0:56:430:56:47

he baulked at paying the last 5 million bonus.

0:56:470:56:50

Mr Armstrong, my name is Jeff Tillotson, I represent...

0:56:500:56:53

'It became a law suit and over the course of about a year and a half,

0:56:530:56:57

'we took depositions, which is sworn testimony,

0:56:570:56:59

'we ploughed through records.'

0:56:590:57:02

TELEPHONE RINGS FAINTLY

0:57:020:57:03

The day before the SCA deposition, I received a phone call from him.

0:57:050:57:08

Lance, "just calling to see how you're doing".

0:57:080:57:10

I hadn't talked to the guy in like, four years, you know

0:57:100:57:13

and saying, "Ah, you know I heard this is,

0:57:130:57:16

"Kathy LeMond said this, that Betsy said this".

0:57:160:57:18

He was prying for information and questions

0:57:180:57:20

and trying to say, "Hey, I'm here".

0:57:200:57:24

I'm right at your door.

0:57:240:57:25

And then he showed up at the door STEP.

0:57:250:57:28

So when I showed up,

0:57:280:57:30

I saw Lance walking in the hallway

0:57:300:57:33

and I thought, "Oh, my gosh".

0:57:330:57:35

She was so nervous, she was literally shaking,

0:57:350:57:38

because there she was, to give a deposition

0:57:380:57:40

and Lance Armstrong had flown from Austin,

0:57:400:57:43

on his private jet to watch her testify about him

0:57:430:57:46

and she knew exactly what kind of message he was trying to send.

0:57:460:57:49

There was a long table in the conference room

0:57:490:57:53

and it was me and my lawyer

0:57:530:57:57

and Lance.

0:57:570:58:00

-I was furious.

-Why?

0:58:000:58:02

'So I saw what Lance was doing, how he was on his BlackBerry,

0:58:030:58:07

'how he was on his computer.'

0:58:070:58:09

Because...

0:58:090:58:11

It WASN'T a lie.

0:58:120:58:14

I'm not going to say somebody is lying when they are not lying.

0:58:140:58:17

She was the first witness who effectively said,

0:58:170:58:20

"I don't care what happens to me. I'm going to tell the truth".

0:58:200:58:23

First, tell me where you were.

0:58:230:58:25

Michel's. It's a restaurant in Villefranche.

0:58:250:58:27

I had never been in a deposition before,

0:58:270:58:30

so when I didn't remember something,

0:58:300:58:32

a restaurant, I had leaned over and I asked Lance.

0:58:320:58:35

-It is Villefranche, isn't it, Lance?

-Objection.

-Well...

0:58:350:58:38

'You can't do that, hold it, hold it, you can't do that.'

0:58:380:58:41

So it was, I was just answering questions honestly.

0:58:410:58:44

I just would like you to recount what took place

0:58:440:58:47

in the Indiana University Hospital...

0:58:470:58:49

The doctor asked him a couple of questions

0:58:510:58:53

and then came the question, have you ever...

0:58:530:58:56

..taken any performance-enhancing drugs?

0:58:580:59:01

And Lance said, yes. The doctor said, "What were they?" And he said,

0:59:010:59:05

"EPO, growth hormone, cortisone, steroids and testosterone".

0:59:050:59:10

Did any medical person ask you

0:59:100:59:13

while you were at the Indiana University Hospital

0:59:130:59:15

whether you had ever used

0:59:150:59:16

-any sort of performance-enhancing drugs or substances?

-No.

0:59:160:59:20

Can you offer, can you help explain to me

0:59:200:59:23

why Miss Andreu would make that story up?

0:59:230:59:26

Well, she said in her deposition she hates me.

0:59:260:59:28

I don't know how the doctor phrased the question, but Lance's response was that he had taken EPO

0:59:280:59:33

and testosterone...

0:59:330:59:34

..and growth hormone

0:59:360:59:38

and cortisone.

0:59:380:59:40

Why would Mr Andreu say the same things, if you know?

0:59:410:59:44

Probably to support his wife, which...

0:59:450:59:47

-I don't know if you're married or not, but...

-I am.

0:59:470:59:50

..sometimes is...required.

0:59:500:59:53

So your testimony that Mr Andreu was also lying when he said

0:59:530:59:58

-that he heard you say those things regarding your prior use?

-100%.

0:59:581:00:01

-But I feel for him.

-What do you mean by that?

1:00:071:00:10

I think he's trying to back up his old lady.

1:00:101:00:13

-JEFF TILLOTSON:

-'Frankie Andreu was under

1:00:151:00:17

'extremely difficult circumstances at that particular point in time,

1:00:171:00:20

'all of which was a result of Lance Armstrong.'

1:00:201:00:23

Did Mr Armstrong ever tell you during that time period

1:00:231:00:26

that he definitely was not going to use EPO

1:00:261:00:29

and no-one else should use EPO?

1:00:291:00:31

No.

1:00:311:00:32

Did he indicate to you that he was going to use EPO

1:00:321:00:35

-or consider using EPO?

-No.

1:00:351:00:37

SHE WHISPERS TO HERSELF

1:00:421:00:44

'He said openly and to the public that Betsy was crazy.'

1:00:441:00:48

They implied behind the scenes that Betsy wasn't believable

1:00:481:00:52

and perhaps unstable. Everything you can possibly think of

1:00:521:00:55

'as a way to hurt someone, they basically employed.'

1:00:551:00:58

And what is it you told Frankie after leaving the room?

1:00:581:01:01

I...

1:01:041:01:05

BETSY: His modus operandi, which was, "Don't attack the message.

1:01:171:01:22

"Attack the messenger."

1:01:221:01:24

So, if people don't know me, people are going to say,

1:01:241:01:26

"Well, wait a minute, who is this woman?

1:01:261:01:29

"Her husband stopped racing early. If he was so good, why did he do that?

1:01:291:01:34

"If Lance is dirty, then why hasn't the governing body caught him?

1:01:341:01:39

"Why does USA Cycling back him? Why do his sponsors back him?

1:01:391:01:43

"Why does he keep getting more and more money from him?

1:01:431:01:47

"How come none of these doctors, who allegedly heard

1:01:471:01:50

"what happened in the hospital room, how come they're remaining quiet?

1:01:501:01:54

"How come nobody has backed her up for that hospital room?

1:01:541:01:58

"Look at his legions of fans.

1:01:581:02:00

"He has a foundation fighting cancer.

1:02:001:02:03

"What is this woman doing beside raising her own kids?

1:02:031:02:07

"His problem was never with Frankie."

1:02:071:02:09

And after Mr Armstrong told the doctor

1:02:091:02:11

he was using certain performance enhancing drugs, did your husband

1:02:111:02:15

ever tell you, "That's wrong, he hasn't done those drugs?"

1:02:151:02:19

Not your husband, but Mr Armstrong?

1:02:191:02:22

No.

1:02:221:02:23

LANCE: How could it have taken place

1:02:301:02:32

when I've never taken performance-enhancing drugs?

1:02:321:02:34

-How could that have happened?

-That's my point. It's not just simply

1:02:341:02:37

-you don't recall?

-How many times do I have to say it?

1:02:371:02:40

I'm just trying to make sure your testimony is clear.

1:02:401:02:42

Well, if it can't be any clearer than, "I've never taken drugs,"

1:02:421:02:46

then incidents like that could never have happened.

1:02:461:02:48

-OK.

-How clear is that?

1:02:481:02:50

These are things that are so devious, if untrue, but so powerful

1:02:521:02:56

when you use with people that makes you a compelling liar.

1:02:561:03:00

I'll give you an example. Bad liar - Richard Nixon.

1:03:001:03:03

Sweaty, looks suspicious, said goofy things

1:03:031:03:06

when people challenged him, "I'm not a crook".

1:03:061:03:08

Great liar - Lance Armstrong.

1:03:081:03:10

"I never doped. I passed every test. And anyone who challenges me,

1:03:101:03:14

"I'm currently suing and are proving they're lying."

1:03:141:03:17

'That's a good liar.'

1:03:171:03:18

Greg, who...

1:03:181:03:21

I know has serious drinking and drug problems,

1:03:211:03:24

was clearly intoxicated, yelling, screaming.

1:03:241:03:28

It started off as, you know, "Hey, Greg, I thought we were friends."

1:03:281:03:31

"Friends?! What do you mean friends?!"

1:03:311:03:34

He said, "Well, if you want to throw stones...I can throw stones..."

1:03:341:03:38

'He went after his reputation, his livelihood

1:03:381:03:42

-'and his way of life.'

-Well...let me see...

1:03:421:03:46

being called potentially the biggest fraud in the history of the sport...

1:03:461:03:50

That was a little bit upsetting.

1:03:501:03:52

'He's set out to destroy me every step of the way.'

1:03:521:03:55

I lost, er, a company that did 20 million in sales in the US.

1:03:551:03:59

Oh, he, you know, he said,

1:03:591:04:00

"The sport is full of crooks and thieves and liars".

1:04:001:04:03

I've been at trade shows, where dealers that said...

1:04:031:04:06

I would see and that I knew and they wouldn't even...

1:04:061:04:09

They wouldn't even look at me.

1:04:091:04:11

He didn't like that either.

1:04:111:04:12

'How could this be? How could it be that my career'

1:04:121:04:16

collide with this guy and then he takes everything away from me?

1:04:161:04:19

We also wanted to believe...

1:04:191:04:22

-VOICE CRACKS:

-..in Lance.

1:04:221:04:24

And it was hard to find out that it wasn't...

1:04:271:04:30

I don't know why I'm crying, but it was really hard to find out that...

1:04:311:04:37

this was going on.

1:04:371:04:39

It's been awful stressful.

1:04:391:04:41

If I'd known for a second, I wouldn't have done it.

1:04:411:04:46

'They were very, very mean and very dismissive of Emma O'Reilly

1:04:461:04:50

'as they were really almost of all the women

1:04:501:04:53

'that testified against Mr Armstrong.'

1:04:531:04:55

Afraid that we were going to out her as a...

1:04:551:04:59

All these things she said. As a whore or whatever. I don't know.

1:04:591:05:02

-Primarily...

-'You don't talk about people like that!'

1:05:021:05:05

And also to... By calling me those names,

1:05:051:05:08

calling me basically an alcoholic prostitute,

1:05:081:05:10

'it's just attacking me personally,

1:05:101:05:12

'but it's not addressing the points that I brought up.'

1:05:121:05:16

You know, and that's probably what upset me the most over it all.

1:05:161:05:19

Raise your right hand. Do you solemnly state your testimony

1:05:191:05:22

-shall be the truth, whole truth and nothing but the truth?

-I do.

1:05:221:05:25

'We had been told that Stephanie McIlvain'

1:05:251:05:29

would testify that, yes, she heard Mr Armstrong admit to drug use,

1:05:291:05:33

so we went out to depose her in California

1:05:331:05:35

at her place of business, which was Oakley.

1:05:351:05:38

-What kind of things do you do?

-I take care of, er...

1:05:381:05:42

Well, I take care of Lance Armstrong and cycling also.

1:05:421:05:45

She called us up and she was in tears.

1:05:451:05:48

"Lance called me! Lance is pissed!"

1:05:481:05:51

And I thought, "Oh, my God!

1:05:511:05:54

I said, "You're going to lie, Stephanie.

1:05:541:05:56

"You're going to lie to keep your job."

1:05:561:05:58

Stephanie needed that job.

1:05:581:06:00

Her husband worked for Oakley. HE needed the job.

1:06:001:06:03

She's got a young son who's autistic.

1:06:031:06:06

They were in an extremely difficult position.

1:06:061:06:09

Where you ever in a hospital room,

1:06:091:06:11

or other part of the hospital with Mr Armstrong,

1:06:111:06:13

-where he said anything about performance-enhancing drugs?

-No.

1:06:131:06:17

Er, do you have any recollection of any doctor in your presence

1:06:171:06:22

asking Mr Armstrong, er, if he used in the past

1:06:221:06:27

-any performance-enhancing drugs or substances?

-No.

1:06:271:06:31

Betty was going to be thrown under the bus and I finally told her.

1:06:311:06:35

I said, "Betsy... I recorded her and I have a tape."

1:06:351:06:40

TELEPHONE RINGS

1:06:401:06:42

-Greg LeMond!

-SHE LAUGHS

1:06:531:06:56

I'm doing well.

1:06:561:06:58

I agree.

1:07:411:07:43

This recording was done well before her deposition,

1:07:451:07:48

so all we could conclude from that was someone got to her.

1:07:481:07:51

Because she clearly changed her testimony.

1:07:511:07:53

Once I made that recording public to the Lance Armstrong side,

1:07:531:07:57

saying, "I think you've monkeyed with this witness,"

1:07:571:08:00

literally all hell broke loose.

1:08:001:08:02

-BETSY:

-I said, "You lied, didn't you?" I just had this bad feeling.

1:08:021:08:06

"You lied, didn't you, Stephanie?"

1:08:061:08:08

"Pat was told, if I make the company look bad,

1:08:081:08:10

"that we'll both lose our jobs. We can't afford to lose our jobs, Betsy.

1:08:101:08:13

"We don't have college degrees.

1:08:131:08:15

"Where are we going to go? What are we going to do?"

1:08:151:08:18

She made her bed. She made her decision.

1:08:191:08:22

CHILDREN LAUGH AND CHATTER

1:08:221:08:25

TELEPHONE RINGS TO CHILDREN: That's a foul! Wow!

1:08:271:08:29

So, our relationship was over.

1:09:091:09:11

If you have a doping offence, or you test positive,

1:09:131:09:16

it goes without saying that you're fired, from all of your contracts,

1:09:161:09:20

not just the team, but there's...

1:09:201:09:22

numerous contracts that I have that would all go away.

1:09:221:09:27

-Sponsorship agreements, for example?

-All of them!

-Er, er...

-And...

1:09:271:09:32

The faith...of all the cancer survivors around the world,

1:09:321:09:35

so everything I do off of the bike would go away, too.

1:09:351:09:38

And don't think for a second I don't understand that.

1:09:401:09:43

Either everyone who I had talked to,

1:09:431:09:46

and all the evidence I had gathered, and all the scientists

1:09:461:09:48

and other people were liars, which I found frankly impossible,

1:09:481:09:53

or Lance approached basically a clinical sociopath.

1:09:531:09:56

Someone able to do wrong without remorse,

1:09:561:09:59

er, or care as to who they hurt in the process.

1:09:591:10:02

Er, the former was unpalatable. The latter, er, was scary.

1:10:021:10:06

That we were litigating with someone who would do anything to prevail.

1:10:061:10:10

It's not about money for me.

1:10:101:10:11

Everything. It's also about the faith that people have put in me

1:10:131:10:16

over the years, so all of that would be erased, so I don't need it

1:10:161:10:20

to say in a contract, "You're fired if you test positive."

1:10:201:10:23

That's not as important

1:10:231:10:25

as losing the support of hundreds of millions of people.

1:10:251:10:29

HE LAUGHS: That's an easy question.

1:10:301:10:33

'The SCA case was settled on really what it said in the contract.'

1:10:331:10:38

'Lance has always followed the rules of the Tour de France'

1:10:381:10:40

and he's won seven times.

1:10:401:10:42

Every time he wins, and he's a certified winner,

1:10:421:10:44

he's followed the rules

1:10:441:10:46

and Tailwind has had an obligation to pay him.

1:10:461:10:49

'After all, he was still officially the Tour de France winner.

1:10:491:10:53

'That was really the question and, if SCA went forward with that case,

1:10:531:10:58

'it would have been a big risk.'

1:10:581:10:59

So they ended up paying Armstrong 7 million

1:10:591:11:03

to settle it.

1:11:031:11:04

CAR HORNS HONK

1:11:041:11:07

'We just paid.

1:11:071:11:09

'Lance slipped past the gates'

1:11:091:11:11

and...said,

1:11:111:11:14

"Time to fold your tent, boys."

1:11:141:11:16

Floyd Landis used to ride alongside

1:11:181:11:20

Lance Armstrong on the US Postal Service for three years.

1:11:201:11:23

They've split up in a little bit of, er, disenchantment.

1:11:231:11:28

Well, Floyd Landis has launched an attack.

1:11:281:11:31

He's trying to ride all of these men off. Surely with eight minutes...

1:11:311:11:35

ANNOUNCEMENT IN FRENCH, DROWNS OUT THE COMMENTARY

1:11:351:11:38

..he is one of the great riders of this race once again.

1:11:381:11:41

This is one of the most incredible performances I've seen. It's fine...

1:11:411:11:46

JOURNALIST: Is it nice to come out of the shadows of Armstrong

1:11:461:11:49

in such a golden style?

1:11:491:11:51

Yeah! Again, I've said many times

1:11:511:11:53

I was one of the lucky ones to be part of his seven wins.

1:11:531:11:56

ANNOUNCEMENT IN FRENCH

1:11:561:11:59

APPLAUSE

1:11:591:12:01

Yet another doping scandal hits the very top of the Tour de France.

1:12:011:12:05

-Floyd, right here!

-'Yes, the winner

1:12:051:12:07

'of this year's prestigious cycling race, Floyd Landis,'

1:12:071:12:10

has tested positive for testosterone.

1:12:101:12:12

'It's the first time in the Tour de France's history that a winner...'

1:12:121:12:15

When I look back now, nobody on that team was ever positive.

1:12:151:12:19

No positives. The moment they left, every rider that was a competitor,

1:12:191:12:24

that Armstrong didn't like, boom, they're positive.

1:12:241:12:27

PHOTOGRAPHERS SHOUT

1:12:271:12:30

-MAN:

-Remember, it's not a race...

1:12:301:12:32

LANCE: 'It's been an amazing year.

1:12:321:12:34

'I stood up here last year and everybody at their table

1:12:341:12:37

'had little pieces of yellow silicon sitting there.'

1:12:371:12:40

And somewhere along the way, 50 million of them were sold.

1:12:401:12:43

Um... APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

1:12:431:12:46

Woo!

1:12:461:12:48

What showed up in your sample?

1:12:481:12:49

-Nothing.

-HE LAUGHS NERVOUSLY

1:12:491:12:52

-Were you doping at the Tour de France?

-No.

1:12:521:12:56

I told Frankie, "I can't believe nobody's ever asked you

1:12:561:13:00

"whether or not you've ever done anything or tried anything.

1:13:001:13:04

"But if somebody does, I'm not going to be one of the wives

1:13:041:13:07

"who stand by you as you lie. I'm not going to do it."

1:13:071:13:10

I raced for 12 years as a professional.

1:13:101:13:12

I used EPO at a... at a certain moment.

1:13:121:13:15

There are many people out there that worry - whether they have cancer

1:13:151:13:18

in their families or not - that cancer is going to get them.

1:13:181:13:21

It's the scariest disease there is.

1:13:211:13:23

-And we think we're making a difference.

-I agree.

1:13:231:13:26

One of my biggest accomplishments was raising my son Lance.

1:13:261:13:30

I am so proud to be the mom of Lance Armstrong.

1:13:301:13:34

We will lose more than 560,000 Americans to cancer this year.

1:13:361:13:40

Landis was stripped of his title and banned from the sport for two years.

1:13:401:13:45

It's time for a government that wages a war against cancer

1:13:451:13:48

as aggressive as the war cancer wages against us.

1:13:481:13:51

We will beat this dreaded disease, and we will win.

1:13:511:13:55

CHEERING

1:13:551:13:57

-FLOYD LANDIS:

-The longer it went on, the more impressed I am that Lance

1:13:571:14:01

could maintain a story like that that was nearly 100% fabricated.

1:14:011:14:05

-HE LAUGHS:

-And still live such an obnoxious life.

1:14:051:14:10

And not even try to hide it.

1:14:101:14:12

-VOICE FADES:

-I mean, I'm a guy that he's never really even met...

1:14:121:14:15

Mr President, you've been a long-time friend of mine.

1:14:221:14:27

Thank you. Thank you for being a friend and for allowing us

1:14:271:14:29

to be here to talk about this critical, er, issue.

1:14:291:14:33

As some of you may or may not know,

1:14:331:14:36

I've decided to race my bicycle again.

1:14:361:14:39

Um... APPLAUSE

1:14:391:14:41

It...

1:14:411:14:42

Lance came back, because he couldn't stay away.

1:14:441:14:47

Please welcome seven-time Tour de France champion Lance Armstrong.

1:14:471:14:50

APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

1:14:501:14:52

Why couldn't he stay away? Because it's like

1:14:521:14:56

the oldest theme in Hollywood that you've ever come across.

1:14:561:15:00

The jewel thief, the bank robber, the assassin.

1:15:001:15:06

They do their jobs brilliantly. They win every time.

1:15:061:15:10

They kill all the people they should kill,

1:15:101:15:12

they get all the jewels they should get,

1:15:121:15:14

they get all the money from the bank they should get.

1:15:141:15:16

Somebody comes and says, "One more job".

1:15:161:15:18

Just one more little turn of the carousel.

1:15:221:15:27

And they can't resist.

1:15:271:15:30

Because that was them living like they'd never lived before

1:15:301:15:35

or they will never live again.

1:15:351:15:37

I cannot guarantee a victory this time, I'm not... What?

1:15:401:15:43

Please stop your whining.

1:15:431:15:44

I'd made several requests to interview Lance,

1:15:511:15:53

especially when he announced

1:15:531:15:55

that he was going to be different this time with the media,

1:15:551:15:57

that he was going to be open and transparent

1:15:571:15:59

and there wasn't going to be any of the stuff that had gone on before

1:15:591:16:02

where he had been very, very difficult.

1:16:021:16:05

And I baited him.

1:16:051:16:07

Lance, we've spoken recently about the return of Ivan Basso

1:16:071:16:12

and Floyd Landis after their suspensions.

1:16:121:16:17

What is it about these dopers that you seem to admire so much?

1:16:171:16:21

Excuse me? What is your name again?

1:16:211:16:23

My name is Paul Kimmage, I work for The Sunday Times.

1:16:231:16:25

I asked for an interview, but I didn't get one.

1:16:251:16:28

Right, and just as a little preface, I might just clear up one thing.

1:16:281:16:31

The reason you didn't get it, Paul, I wanted to make sure that was you,

1:16:311:16:34

because I don't know what you look like...

1:16:341:16:37

When I decided to come back for what I think is a very noble reason,

1:16:371:16:43

you said, "Folks, the cancer has been in remission for four years,

1:16:431:16:48

"but our cancer has now returned."

1:16:481:16:51

Meaning me.

1:16:531:16:55

I am here to fight this disease.

1:16:551:16:57

I am here so that I don't have to deal with it,

1:16:571:16:59

you don't have to deal with it,

1:16:591:17:01

none of us have to deal with it, my children don't have to deal with it.

1:17:011:17:04

-But yet you said that

-I

-am the cancer.

1:17:041:17:06

So, I think it goes without saying,

1:17:061:17:08

no, we're not going to sit down and do an interview.

1:17:081:17:12

And I don't think anybody in this room

1:17:121:17:14

would sit down for that interview.

1:17:141:17:16

You are not worth the chair that you're sitting on

1:17:161:17:18

with a statement like that.

1:17:181:17:20

With a disease that touches everybody around the world.

1:17:201:17:23

Getting back to the Tour Of California...

1:17:441:17:46

LAUGHTER

1:17:461:17:48

-COMMENTATOR:

-Armstrong, shades of his seven victories

1:17:521:17:54

in the Tour de France, he's got happy memories of the Pyrenees

1:17:541:17:58

and they're all coming back now.

1:17:581:18:00

When Floyd has lost all his money, fighting his ban,

1:18:001:18:04

and he calls up Johan Bruyneel and says,

1:18:041:18:07

"Look, will you get me on your team? I need a place."

1:18:071:18:10

And Lance and Bruyneel, both kindred spirits

1:18:101:18:14

in terms of having no emotional intelligence,

1:18:141:18:17

decide they don't want to have anything to do with Floyd -

1:18:171:18:20

he's just a loser, he got caught.

1:18:201:18:22

They don't realise that they're...they're actually

1:18:221:18:26

handling a ticking bomb here.

1:18:261:18:29

Floyd has offered them the chance to diffuse the bomb.

1:18:291:18:33

To just take out that little pin or whatever,

1:18:331:18:36

give him a little, small job in the team, everything is OK.

1:18:361:18:39

They tell him to get lost and the bomb blows up in their faces.

1:18:401:18:44

And when he saw Armstrong,

1:18:461:18:48

who he knew from the first day he'd entered the sport was doped,

1:18:481:18:51

who had shown Floyd how to dope

1:18:511:18:54

and all he sees is this fucking shit everywhere,

1:18:541:18:56

"Hope rides again." "The Great God."

1:18:561:18:59

"The Jesus of cycling is coming back."

1:18:591:19:02

And all the spectators are getting down on bended knee

1:19:021:19:06

and he's thinking, "This is not right. This sticks in my throat.

1:19:061:19:10

"I fucking am going to sort this out."

1:19:101:19:12

'At least now I've confirmed that there's nothing else to lose.

1:19:131:19:16

'Nothing. There's nothing in it for me in cycling.

1:19:161:19:19

'There's no team for me. There's...

1:19:191:19:20

'No matter what I do, it's going to be worse and worse until I leave.

1:19:201:19:24

'Eventually, the levee breaks.'

1:19:241:19:26

-NEWSREADER:

-Tonight, Landis and others once close to Lance

1:19:301:19:34

go on camera for the first time for our special report -

1:19:341:19:37

Did Lance Cheat?

1:19:371:19:39

At some point people have to tell

1:19:391:19:40

their kids that Santa Claus isn't real.

1:19:401:19:42

I hate to be the guy to do it, but...

1:19:441:19:46

..it's just not real.

1:19:471:19:49

You're saying Lance Armstrong is a liar?

1:19:491:19:51

Yes, I suppose if that's the question, yes.

1:19:521:19:56

We have somebody that's been under oath several times

1:19:561:19:58

with a completely different version.

1:19:581:20:00

You have somebody that has written a book

1:20:001:20:02

with a completely different version.

1:20:021:20:04

You have somebody that took people's money for their defence,

1:20:041:20:07

some would say a million dollars, with a completely different version.

1:20:071:20:10

He said he has nothing, he's got no proof. It's his word versus ours.

1:20:101:20:14

We like our word, we like where we stand, we like our credibility.

1:20:141:20:17

As Lance Armstrong prepares for his final weekend at the Tour de France,

1:20:171:20:21

a federal investigation into alleged doping by him

1:20:211:20:24

and his former team threatens to tarnish his golden image.

1:20:241:20:28

The investigation was sparked by allegations by former friend

1:20:281:20:31

and team-mate Floyd Landis.

1:20:311:20:34

At the end of July, I got a phone call from Jeff Novitzky

1:20:341:20:38

and one of the first questions I asked him was,

1:20:381:20:41

"What's taken you so long to call me?"

1:20:411:20:43

It was scary, because that whole,

1:20:431:20:45

"This is Jeff Novitzky, federal agent..."

1:20:451:20:48

It put the holy terror of God in you.

1:20:481:20:50

Novitzky was able to bring these guys into a room.

1:20:501:20:54

He would open up his coat and,

1:20:541:20:56

"Oh, sorry I didn't mean you to see my gun..."

1:20:561:20:59

That's what they do. And then he takes his sheriff's badge out,

1:20:591:21:02

drops it on the table, in case you forget that he's a cop,

1:21:021:21:05

and then he says to you,

1:21:051:21:07

"You know, if you lie to us,

1:21:071:21:09

"it'll be perjury.

1:21:091:21:12

"And we will know you're lying to us,

1:21:121:21:14

"because of all we know about this case.

1:21:141:21:17

"And then we will go after you and you'll end up doing prison time."

1:21:171:21:21

A subpoena means you come in. There's no question.

1:21:241:21:27

You go in and you tell the truth in front of the Grand Jury.

1:21:271:21:31

No lawyer by your side.

1:21:311:21:32

I probably told them more stuff, more detail,

1:21:321:21:34

than what I had revealed to anybody else before.

1:21:341:21:37

You know, the information kind of started trickling out of me

1:21:371:21:40

and then, after 15 minutes or so, it just poured out of me.

1:21:401:21:44

I don't think they were expecting any kind of testimony like they got.

1:21:441:21:48

Lance Armstrong didn't appreciate that.

1:21:511:21:54

A few months later, I was out at dinner with some friends

1:21:541:21:56

and...he must have had eyes on me, because he had people contact him

1:21:561:22:02

and let him know where I was, and he, you know, approached me,

1:22:021:22:07

and tried to intimidate me.

1:22:071:22:09

He said he was going to make my life a living hell -

1:22:091:22:12

both in the courtroom and out of the courtroom.

1:22:121:22:14

Lance was really pissed that Greg questioned why

1:22:181:22:21

he was working with Ferrari.

1:22:211:22:22

He helped call the shots. Yes, he doped himself.

1:22:221:22:27

If he didn't win the Tour,

1:22:271:22:28

someone else that was doped would have won the Tour.

1:22:281:22:31

I really felt happy at that moment, because I thought,

1:22:311:22:34

that's it. There is no way back now

1:22:341:22:36

because Floyd had given chapter and verse

1:22:361:22:38

and I thought the tide was now irreversible.

1:22:381:22:42

Lance Armstrong handed me some testosterone patches.

1:22:421:22:46

It's just a little patch that you put on your skin.

1:22:461:22:48

They can't say that. Nobody is that conniving.

1:22:481:22:53

Nobody is that good,

1:22:531:22:54

to try and get away with something for 17, 18, 19 years, no way.

1:22:541:22:58

No.

1:23:001:23:01

If you think he was facing jail,

1:23:011:23:05

he had to have been scared to death.

1:23:051:23:07

He called every single famous,

1:23:081:23:12

political favour

1:23:121:23:14

he could possibly pull in.

1:23:141:23:17

I had just woken up, I'd switched on my phone.

1:23:171:23:20

My brother had direct messaged me on Twitter and saying,

1:23:201:23:25

"WTF, the Feds' case has been dropped."

1:23:251:23:28

When you want to give news that you don't want anybody to notice,

1:23:341:23:38

you put it out at a time when everybody is distracted

1:23:381:23:40

by somebody else.

1:23:401:23:42

This news was dropped late on a Friday afternoon

1:23:421:23:45

on Super Bowl weekend, when America goes into party mode.

1:23:451:23:49

And Lance Armstrong, for one weekend,

1:23:511:23:54

ceases to be relevant.

1:23:541:23:56

Obama was running for re-election

1:23:591:24:01

and it wouldn't have looked good to go after the American hero

1:24:011:24:05

who still had a lot of supporters.

1:24:051:24:09

More Americans entered the workforce...

1:24:091:24:11

It goes to show you the power that Armstrong has.

1:24:111:24:14

He got a federal investigation shut down,

1:24:141:24:17

despite having all that information out there

1:24:171:24:19

and all that evidence out there.

1:24:191:24:21

'I was not proud to be an American at the time.'

1:24:241:24:28

I was so disappointed in the whole system, you know.

1:24:281:24:31

That, you know, this corruption can happen and, you know,

1:24:311:24:35

favours can be granted.

1:24:351:24:37

Travis Tygart picks up the baton.

1:24:451:24:47

He says, "I'm going to ask all these cyclists

1:24:471:24:50

"to come and be interviewed by me."

1:24:501:24:52

This was not just Lance Armstrong

1:24:521:24:54

getting away with doping for a few years.

1:24:541:24:57

This was something by far bigger and greater than just that -

1:24:571:25:01

they took it to an entirely different level

1:25:011:25:04

and no other team, right, won seven Tour de Frances.

1:25:041:25:08

And all the glory and all the profits

1:25:081:25:10

and all the sponsorships that went along with that.

1:25:101:25:13

He was the boss. The evidence is clear.

1:25:131:25:16

He was one of the ring leaders of this conspiracy

1:25:161:25:21

that pulled off this grand heist,

1:25:211:25:22

using tens of millions of taxpayer dollars,

1:25:221:25:26

that defrauded millions of sports fans and his fellow competitors.

1:25:261:25:29

Lance immediately went on the attack, immediately sued them in his

1:25:321:25:35

home court and immediately started saying,

1:25:351:25:37

"You saw it as a terrible, bad, kangaroo court organisation.

1:25:371:25:39

I thought, "Here we go again.

1:25:391:25:41

"He's going to bloody them up. He's going to walk away from this."

1:25:411:25:45

Good morning, everybody, welcome to the Team RadioShack bus...

1:25:451:25:49

'Almost at every turn,

1:25:491:25:50

'the lobbyists for Armstrong and his criminal defence attorney

1:25:501:25:53

and others wanted to bankrupt us and take us down.

1:25:531:25:56

-The boss.

-How are you? Good morning.

1:25:561:25:59

'Whether it was claiming to the world media we had not authority or'

1:25:591:26:03

we were on witch hunts or the jurisdiction didn't rest with us,

1:26:031:26:08

there were numerous efforts by them

1:26:081:26:10

to ensure this information never got out.

1:26:101:26:13

Your investigations showed that there were personal threats

1:26:131:26:16

made against riders who had decided to come clean.

1:26:161:26:20

-I wonder if there were any threats against you?

-There were, Scott.

1:26:201:26:23

-These threats came from where?

-E-mails, letters.

-Anonymous?

-Yeah.

1:26:231:26:30

Can you remember any of the lines from the e-mails or the letters?

1:26:301:26:34

The worst was probably putting a bullet in my head.

1:26:381:26:42

-Did you take that seriously?

-Absolutely.

1:26:421:26:44

Turned it over to the FBI to investigate it. Which they're doing.

1:26:461:26:50

-NEWSREADER:

-A new report from the US Anti-Doping Agency reveals...

1:26:541:26:58

Just months after federal prosecutors

1:26:581:27:00

dropped their investigation, the US Anti-Doping Agency says

1:27:001:27:03

they now have proof that the seven-time winner

1:27:031:27:06

of the Tour de France...

1:27:061:27:07

From our end, it was never personal.

1:27:071:27:09

In fact, you know, we gave him the same opportunity

1:27:091:27:11

to come in and be part of the solution.

1:27:111:27:13

-NEWSREADER:

-1,000 pages of evidence

1:27:131:27:15

provided by the agency include first-hand accounts,

1:27:151:27:18

scientific documents...

1:27:181:27:19

Lance believed that he was bulletproof, that he was invincible,

1:27:231:27:27

that they could bring down the Floyds,

1:27:271:27:30

the Tylers, they could bring down anybody.

1:27:301:27:32

"But you can't bring down me,

1:27:321:27:34

"because I am too big to be brought down."

1:27:341:27:37

I thought in light of recent events, I ought to reintroduce myself.

1:27:381:27:41

My name is Lance Armstrong. I'm a cancer survivor.

1:27:411:27:44

I've been asked to come up here and talk about my story of survivorship.

1:27:441:27:48

I'm a father of five and, yes, I won the Tour de France seven times.

1:27:481:27:53

UCI will ban Lance Armstrong from cycling

1:27:581:28:01

and UCI will strip him of his seven Tour de France titles.

1:28:011:28:05

Lance Armstrong has no place in cycling.

1:28:061:28:09

I don't have anything to worry about.

1:28:121:28:14

Nobody needs to cry for me. I'm going to be great.

1:28:141:28:17

Are you doing something to take your mind off the news this week?

1:28:171:28:21

I'm more at ease now than I have been in ten years.

1:28:211:28:23

What surprised me was how quickly it fell apart.

1:28:251:28:29

-NEWSREADER:

-This was a day we could not have imagined.

1:28:291:28:31

Nike has fired Lance Armstrong

1:28:311:28:33

over allegations he was doping during races.

1:28:331:28:36

And it first hit me when Nike announced they were fleeing.

1:28:361:28:41

-NEWSREADER:

-Over the last ten years,

1:28:411:28:42

he's made more than an estimated 100 million.

1:28:421:28:46

What am I on? I'm on my bike, busting my ass six hours a day.

1:28:461:28:49

What are YOU on?

1:28:491:28:51

And then, almost in rapid succession, everyone left him.

1:28:511:28:55

Anheuser-Busch, FRS sports drinks, Trek bicycles and Giro helmets

1:28:551:28:59

all dropped today like dominoes.

1:28:591:29:02

And suddenly, in a matter of days, it collapsed.

1:29:021:29:04

Oh, my golly, the category tonight.

1:29:071:29:09

Paul, take a guess what you think the category might be tonight.

1:29:091:29:12

Well, could it..? Something about Lance Armstrong?

1:29:121:29:15

Nice going. Nice going!

1:29:151:29:17

Honest to God, who cares about cy...? No-one.

1:29:171:29:20

We were pulling into the driveway and,

1:29:301:29:32

right when we pulled into the driveway, Betsy's phone rings

1:29:321:29:35

and Betsy turned to me and she goes, "It's Lance".

1:29:351:29:39

And our daughter in the back said,

1:29:391:29:40

"Is it really him? Is it really him?"

1:29:401:29:43

He apologised. Apologised for everything he'd done.

1:29:431:29:46

And I said, "You know, it must be... It's got to be a tough phone call

1:29:461:29:49

"for you to make..." I said, "You know,

1:29:491:29:52

"I appreciate it," and I said,

1:29:521:29:54

"I'm sure you're going through hell for the last month and a half."

1:29:541:29:57

I said, "But no..."

1:29:571:29:59

That I'd been going through hell for ten years with this shit.

1:29:591:30:02

The Lance in that phone call was a Lance I've never, ever...

1:30:021:30:07

It was a Lance I didn't know.

1:30:111:30:13

He really, genuinely seemed contrite.

1:30:131:30:15

Um...

1:30:151:30:17

And he apologised.

1:30:221:30:23

He said he had done a lot of bad things to a lot of good people.

1:30:251:30:29

I said, "Lance, you better admit that that hospital room happened."

1:30:311:30:35

Now the worldwide exclusive Oprah and Lance Armstrong.

1:30:371:30:43

So let's start with the questions that people around the world

1:30:441:30:47

have been waiting for you to answer

1:30:471:30:49

and for now I'd just like a yes or no.

1:30:491:30:52

Did you ever take banned substances to enhance your cycling performance?

1:30:521:30:56

Yes.

1:30:561:30:57

-Yes or no, was one of those banned substances EPO?

-Yes.

1:30:581:31:03

I was physically sick.

1:31:031:31:05

Did you ever blood dope

1:31:051:31:07

-or use blood transfusions to enhance your cycling performance?

-Yes.

1:31:071:31:10

'It was sort of like an old Mike Tyson fight,'

1:31:101:31:13

that by the time you sat down in your ringside seat,

1:31:131:31:15

he'd already knocked the guy out and it was over.

1:31:151:31:17

Did you ever use any other banned substances like testosterone,

1:31:171:31:21

cortisone or human growth hormone?

1:31:211:31:24

Yes.

1:31:241:31:25

'I was, like, holy shit. Wow.'

1:31:251:31:29

"Wow!"

1:31:291:31:31

Yeah, am I jealous and bitter and vindictive now?

1:31:331:31:35

In all seven of your Tour de France victories,

1:31:371:31:41

-did you ever take banned substances or blood dope?

-Yes.

1:31:411:31:45

Those five yeses in one fell swoop,

1:31:451:31:49

just wiped out a generation of cyclists.

1:31:491:31:53

Watching the show, for me, was like...

1:31:531:31:56

I never thought those words would come out of Lance Armstrong's mouth.

1:31:561:32:00

It was unbelievable.

1:32:001:32:01

Was Betsy telling the truth about the Indiana hospital

1:32:021:32:07

-overhearing you in 1996?

-Erm...

1:32:071:32:11

I'm not going to take that on. I'm laying down on that one.

1:32:111:32:14

Was Betsy lying?

1:32:141:32:16

Erm...

1:32:161:32:18

And he dropped the ball.

1:32:211:32:22

He dropped the ball.

1:32:241:32:26

-She asked me and I asked her not to talk about...

-What you said?

1:32:261:32:29

..the details of the call. It was a confidential, personal conversation.

1:32:291:32:33

It was 40 minutes long.

1:32:331:32:36

So again, it was classic Lance.

1:32:361:32:38

His way out, throughout that whole interview, he...he just used me.

1:32:381:32:42

He called to apologise so that when he went on Oprah he could say,

1:32:421:32:45

"Oh, yeah, I've reached out to people to apologise.

1:32:451:32:47

"I'm a changed man. I'm trying to be better."

1:32:471:32:50

It played into his hand. It played into his game.

1:32:501:32:52

My stepfather called me and said,

1:32:521:32:55

"Your mom's having a really hard time."

1:32:551:32:57

And I saw my mom...

1:32:571:32:58

..and I thought, "Oh...

1:33:011:33:03

"..this woman's a wreck."

1:33:051:33:06

What has been the financial cost? Have you lost everything?

1:33:101:33:13

I don't like thinking about it.

1:33:151:33:17

But that was a...

1:33:181:33:20

I don't know, that was a 75 million day.

1:33:201:33:25

-Gone.

-Gone.

-Gone.

1:33:281:33:31

Do you think he will ever come clean?

1:33:331:33:36

No, I don't think fully.

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Partly because it would burn too many people.

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He's protected Bruyneel, he's protected Ferrari,

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he's protected Thom Weisel, he's protected Bill Stapleton

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and he's protected, I believe, the medical people at that hospital.

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'It's really not about him, but about the people behind him.

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'They put this team together that had knowledge of the doping,

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'that went out and then sold sponsorships

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'to the tune of about 30+ million federal dollars from citizens

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'of the United States of America. It's alleged fraud.'

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I don't know Lance Armstrong now.

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The man I knew in 1993, I had a blast with.

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A great friend and it's hard for me

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to talk about because of how much hell he put me through

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and my wife through.

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He's like the guy who robs a bank

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and then says, "Oops, forgot to frisk the tellers for any money

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"they might have in their pockets."

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So he essentially wanted it all.

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Most of the cheats pretty much stop at the water's edge.

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Lance didn't.

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I had it. And then I just...

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Things got too big. Things got too crazy.

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What Lance never had was the truth...

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..which is more powerful than the corrupt athlete.

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It's an epic story.

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Time flies, huh?

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Who would have thought?

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