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SIRENS WAIL | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
BIRDSONG | 0:00:07 | 0:00:08 | |
PIANO RECITAL | 0:00:10 | 0:00:11 | |
MAN: London, England. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
The greatest city on Earth. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
It's a landing point for great people | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
who want to make great things. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
Think you can fake it? | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
This city would chew you up quicker than a dog toy | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
in the jaws of a pissed-off pit-bull. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
That's what happened to the characters in this story. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
Professional villains, in the eyes of the law. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
According to the suits, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
this bunch of mugs were fraudsters of the highest order. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
But we got a saying in this metropolis. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
Maybe I invented it. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:01 | |
"If you wish on stars, you could end up behind bars." | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
Now, a group of conmen have been sent to prison | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
for trying to scam millions of pounds in tax credits | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
by pretending to make a big-budget British movie. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
The five fraudsters said they had A-lister actors lined up | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
to star in the movie, but when their plans were uncovered, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
they hastily went about making a low-budget film instead. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
This Brit flick didn't make the multiplexes, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
but the story behind it has got it all. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
A daring plot, big-money stakes, international criminals. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
It was made to try and cover up a fraud. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
Scene 52-1, take 1. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
-Louder, louder. -Louder again? All right. OK. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
-Scene 52-1... -Then you're going to... | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
Can you clap it twice this time? | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
So second clap, bam-bam. All right. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
Scene 52-1, take 1. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
-We have to do that again. -Cut, cut. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
Shall I start from the beginning? | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
-Yeah, if you'd prefer, yes. -Yeah. Out. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
I'll let our main players introduce themselves, shall I? | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
-Oh, yeah. Any time, yeah? -Mm-hm. -OK. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
Hi! My name is Aoife Madden and I would like to welcome you to our... | 0:02:13 | 0:02:19 | |
Hi. My name is Aoife Madden and I would like to welcome you | 0:02:20 | 0:02:25 | |
to our very first video diary for the making of A Landscape of Lies. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:31 | |
My role is the producer. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
Hello. My name is Bashar Al-Issa, and I'm going to explain to you | 0:02:35 | 0:02:41 | |
the aspect of how to logistically handle a deliverable of taking | 0:02:41 | 0:02:48 | |
a script from concept into completion. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
Um... | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
..and in a more specific sense, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:55 | |
we're going to get involved into, um... | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
The Landscape of Lies, the movie. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
So, um....getting down to it. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
-Um...I'll start again. -OK, don't worry. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
-Does this work? -Yeah, of course. -And here are the stars of our movie. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
A couple of wannabe Harvey Weinsteins. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
Lured, like so many before them, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
to the glamour and the glitz of making movies. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
..scenes and then his family scenes are in this car... | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
First up, Aoife Madden, Northern Irish. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
From a powerful family. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
-How you doing? -Her uncle, Conor Murphy, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
is a political mover and shaker for Sinn Fein. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
Aoife herself studied acting at drama school. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
And I will lie to you from day one. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
And use you and screw you and break your heart. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
Aoife got off to a flying start. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
A bit of Shakespeare here, even a couple of movies. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
But acting's a fickle game. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
The work dried up, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
so she decided to go back to college to retrain as a teacher. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
If Aoife's our Bonnie, Bashar is our Clyde. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
A property mogul with that casual minted look. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
Bashar Al-Issa came from a Middle-Eastern family worth millions. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:29 | |
And he thought big. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:30 | |
In 2005, he had a credit line worth £90 million, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:37 | |
which he was using to develop property sites around the world. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
They had grand ambitions. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
He started off with one, which was Issa Quay, and then quickly | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
he had other plans to build a number of schemes in the city. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:52 | |
And they weren't just small schemes, they were skyscraper schemes. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
He was the darling of Manchester. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
Everyone wanted to do business with this kind of interesting | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
Iraqi businessman who kind of had this idea that his apartments | 0:05:01 | 0:05:06 | |
were going to be the best in Manchester, if not the UK. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
And he would attract investors from Dubai, from Abu Dhabi, from London. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:15 | |
That's his market. That's what he was aiming at. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
The reality of when we saw show apartments at Issa Quay | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
was very, very different. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
The toilets had come in from China and were tiny. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
Were really, really tiny. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
Perhaps designed for the Asian market, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
but certainly didn't suit the European market. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
Bashar Al-Issa is taking these architectural students | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
on a tour of the historic Statler building. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
It's a building he knows well. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
Issa spent 5.5 million renovating the former hotel | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
into a multiuse building since he bought it in August. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
We're making sure that every step we take is planned, designed | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
and well-thought-of, so it can last years. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
To Issa, it's all about the details. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
From the emblems in the marble to creating a fourth wing. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
And he plans on spending big money to renovate. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
So, the overall cost would be approximate, er... | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
by achieving the fourth wing, as well, about 130 million. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
Bashar's 130-million plans were about 130 million short. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:18 | |
By 2008, his property empire was crumbling | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
like an old digestive biscuit in a vice. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
The financial crisis hit. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
The bank pulled his credit and he was forced into bankruptcy. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
Work here basically stopped. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
The workers said, "We're not getting paid, we're out of here." | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
Can't blame them for that. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:40 | |
There were some legal proceedings that started | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
over in State Supreme Court. That was in late 2008. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
Bashar was told by the judge to show up, he never did. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
The judge issued a contempt of court fine on him. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
I think it's like 250 a day, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
which I think the meter on that is still running, by the way. Huh! | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
Bashar was just 31 and he'd already seen his first career | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
flushed down one of his smaller-than-average toilets. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
So, he decided to get another business qualification | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
and went back to his old stomping ground at East London Uni. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
He wasn't the type of guy to end up in middle management, | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
tapping a keyboard in an open-plan office. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
No, sir. Bashar had another sky-high ambition - | 0:07:24 | 0:07:29 | |
to become a film producer. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
To understand the man, he's never desperate. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
He's got no desperate need for anything. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
His only desire in life is to be successful. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
When one thing closes, he moves to something else. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
Property was no longer viable, let's look around for something else. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:48 | |
And he always had an interest in film. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
Bashar's tutor at university was this guy, Tariq Hassan. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
And Tariq knew Aoife, who was training there to be a teacher. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
One of them wanted to act in the movies | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
and the other wanted to make 'em. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
So he introduced 'em. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
Bashar soon took Aoife to one of London's smartest hotels, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
The Dorchester. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
Nice gaff, great bar nibbles. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
He asked Aoife to set up a production company | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
and make films with him. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:31 | |
Which was bold, seeing as Aoife knew very little about film production | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
and still had a student loan. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
But he promised to teach her everything he knew. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
'Starting from the beginning, tasks and responsibilities.' | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
Pre-production is basically planning | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
all the steps you would do within production. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
'Production is the actual construction of the movie.' | 0:08:49 | 0:08:54 | |
Um...so by the time you get to production, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
you need to be fully and utterly over pre-production. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
Of course, Bashar was bankrupt, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
so he couldn't set up a company himself. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
But that was a tiny fly in the ointment. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
Under Bashar's expert guidance, Aoife set up her own company. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
Evolved Pictures. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
Don't it look snazzy? | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
I am from Ireland and, um... | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
it's a wonderful culture of storytelling | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
and music-making and all of these different sort of arts and crafts. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
And I wanted to bring this through into a modern-day process, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:37 | |
which is the art of filmmaking. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
And that's why I decided to embark upon a film. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
Aoife and Bashar started out the way any film producer would start out. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:50 | |
By looking for the right script. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
My favourite films are Heat, Goodfellas, Taken. | 0:09:53 | 0:10:00 | |
I really like a good crime, thriller, action-packed story. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:05 | |
I saw an advert on a website called mandy.com. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
There was an advert for a production company looking for some scripts. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
Stuart Knight had just finished a course in screenwriting | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
at an establishment of higher education called Preston College. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:23 | |
He emailed Aoife his second-year student script for a film | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
called a Landscape of Lives. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
And she loved it. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
A Landscape of Lives at the time was set in Los Angeles. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
Featured probably about six or seven different interlinking storylines, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
kind of like Magnolia or Crash. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
And a three-hour drama about these people's lives in Los Angeles. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
Even though I hadn't been there. I'd been to New York. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
It was a thriller, we were unravelling a murder | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
and we would find out at the end why all these lives were linked | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
and...how... | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
..the linking of lives resulted in the murder and... | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
Sorry. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
Next, they needed to hire people to help plan the production. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
They didn't have any money yet, but that didn't matter. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
London's full of pretty young things | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
who dream of getting into the movies. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
We met at a popular cafe in the West End. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
Um...she sent me the script. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
I wasn't going to say, "I think it's a bit of a stupid script," | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
because she would've said, "Oh, well, don't work on it, then." | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
And I wasn't in a position to be able to be that choosy | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
about any film work that I was offered. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
Bashar suggested that maybe I help on the film and I was, like, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:51 | |
"Yes, I'll do it!" | 0:11:51 | 0:11:52 | |
There was no reason for him to do anything nice for me, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
giving me a job, um...something that I'd always wanted to do. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
And it was just really exciting. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
It was like walking along the street on cloud nine. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
Romance was also in the air. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
Enter stage left the model and dancer, Maeve Madden. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:16 | |
Aoife's sister. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
Bashar quickly fell for Maeve and soon they were dating. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
Well, wouldn't be a film without a love story, would it? | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
He seemed like the kind of person that would do anything for her. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
Um...and he did a lot for her. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
They were a loved-up couple when it was all going smoothly. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
The script was in the bag. Now, they needed to finance the production. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:46 | |
Bashar didn't have enough in his piggybank for that. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
Being bankrupt is terrible for your bank balance. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
But help was at hand. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
The British Government offers a nifty incentive | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
to anyone making a film in the UK. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
25% of their budget back in cash on any dosh spent in this country. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
It's called the Film Tax Credit. You'd be a mug not to apply. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
Aoife began to fill out the forms. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
She'd be very chatty about how the UK Film Council | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
were coming along with her. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:17 | |
Applications, she'd be cross | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
because she had to go through the whole process again. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
Um...you know, she'd just be chatty-chatty about everything. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
Financing the film industry is a tricky, difficult, um...task. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:32 | |
However, it's a rewarding task, um... | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
once you get the right idea, get the right script, push it | 0:13:36 | 0:13:42 | |
and get a dedicated team behind it and make it a blockbuster. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
Government subsidies have always attracted sharp investors. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
But the Film Tax Credit is only meant to be | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
a percentage of the total cost. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
Bashar and Aoife had to raise the real money for their film | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
using the support of the British Government as an enticement. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
Bashar turned to his own family's multimillion-pound investment | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
company in the Middle East. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
The oddly-named Canadian Primary Industries. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
Smelling the cash, Aoife and Bashar went abroad to sell. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
We pitched our project. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
When I said we pitched, we... We broke down the project, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
we gave presentations of the type of actors | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
that we might be able to have in it. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
You have to present budgets, you have to present | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
comparables of other movies that have been made on certain budgets. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
You have to present box-office reports. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
Lots of financial things that you have to present. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
And, obviously, there are many other things, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
but I won't bore you with them. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
And finally, we found a company, um...I found a company | 0:14:45 | 0:14:50 | |
that was interested in investing in the project, so we struck a deal. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
She was fortunate to have a contact through myself | 0:14:53 | 0:14:58 | |
that would be able to syndicate her loan | 0:14:58 | 0:15:05 | |
and the finance needed to many investors around the world. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
They talked about crazy money coming from the Middle East. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
They talked about building a studio in Jordan. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
They talked about having 250 million to spend. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
This is the Landscape of Lives' PowerPoint presentation, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
full of A-list actors. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
I'm sure Michael Kane, with a K, would have been thrilled(!) | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
With an untested team of producers, a student's script | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
and a PowerPoint with more spelling errors than a dyslexic's homework, | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
Bashar's family company thought about it | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
and decided to offer Aoife a loan of £19.6 million. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:50 | |
He knows a lot of finances, he has a degree in international economics. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
You base yourself somewhere and you work somewhere else | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
and you can claim start-up expenses and whatever. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
He fully understood all those rules and regulations. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
The money was coming from a Middle-Eastern connection | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
who was based in Panama. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
Here is where they mystery begins. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
You can look at what happened next in two ways. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
Theory A - behold! | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
A bunch of wannabes so desperate to succeed that they bend the rules | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
until they break 'em. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
Or Theory B - a gang of scammers who planned it all from day one. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
Aoife felt like she was dreaming. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
In a few months, she had gone from being an out-of-work actress | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
to a film producer with a full script and a £20 million budget. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:50 | |
But then she woke up from her dream | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
and realised she had no bleeding idea how to make the thing. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
So she began to look for another company who'd do the job for her. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
I felt that I needed to have a team onboard with me | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
that would help the project progress and move forward | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
so that they could contract and negotiate | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
and organise all of those things. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
Because it's a very creative, um... | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
It's a very creative world and you want to be involved very creatively. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
And sometimes, we can get pulled away into the non-creative side. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
So those people that came on to help me | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
were from a company called AB Productions. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
She was always quite cagey about AB. She mentioned them to me. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:37 | |
I didn't really know who AB were, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
who the sort of people involved were. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
She said to me that she really saw my role as creative director, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:49 | |
so she wanted me to take a step back. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
Here's one for those of you | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
who take the less-charitable view of this lot. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
AB had even less experience in filmmaking than Aoife Madden. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
The company was run by two sorts who worked for Bashar | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
when he was a property developer in Manchester. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
A construction manager, Osama Al Baghdady | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
and an architect, Ian Sherwood. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
I remember quite distinctly Bashar saying to me, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
"I'm looking at this film project, would you be interested?" | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
Now, I said I wasn't experienced enough in film | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
to be able to contribute anything more than, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
"Yeah, OK, you can use my office address." | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
Osama, I knew from the construction side, from Bashar's property group. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:33 | |
And Osama can have that office address and Osama can work from it. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:39 | |
Osama is the director of AB Productions, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
Osama is the contact between you and the people making the films. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
And now, they were a magnificent seven. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
Bashar Al-Issa, the lead producer, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
Aoife Madden, the creative producer, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
Sarah Clarke, the production manager, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
Tariq Hassan, the accountant, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
Osama Al Baghdady and Ian Sherwood, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
who were apparently going to organise the making of the film | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
because it was too difficult for Aoife. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
And Maeve Madden was a model, or location scout, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
product-placement executive, or something. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
Together, they thought they could rewrite the rules of filmmaking | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
on that little whiteboard there. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
-Hi. -I'm sorry. I've got someone for an audition here. -Ah, OK. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:28 | |
-Shall we...? -Yeah. OK. Thank you. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
Bashar said that he felt he could run a film | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
exactly like a building site. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
And therefore, he felt people with the same skill sets could do this | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
if they could do that. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:40 | |
And now comes the strangest episode in this story. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
The company that Aoife hired to make the film, AB Productions, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:57 | |
sent her an invoice for £5.3 million for work they hadn't done yet. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:03 | |
800,000 of that was VAT. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
The fat 20% tax Her Majesty's Government creams off | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
mostly everything we buy. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
You can claim that back if you're a limited company, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
and that's what Aoife did on behalf of Evolved. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
But she never actually got around to paying AB's invoice itself. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
HMRC does have a duty to pay out VAT that we owe to people, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:31 | |
or they say they owe to us on a VAT return. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
And particularly if it was a business that needed to, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:39 | |
as we were told at that point, pay other expenses | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
and carry on making this film. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
The following month, Aoife submitted more claims to the taxman. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:51 | |
There was one for another £500,000 in VAT. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
Plus a claim for a Film Tax Credit to the tune of another £250,000. | 0:20:55 | 0:21:01 | |
Things were looking fishier than a nun in a nightclub. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
Fishiest of all was the £19.6 million budget | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
they'd scored in the first place. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
Even the biggest British movies cost half that. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
And British crime flicks are made for well under a million. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
Even ones by the genre's big daddies, | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
like producer Jonathan Sothcott. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
He'd love 20 mil to play with. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
We are making these films for DVDs. You know, that's the core audience. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
Um...and what I call the geezer-movie audience | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
still likes to buy a meat-and-potatoes product. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
They go to Asda and they buy one of these with their weekly shop. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
You know the Kray twins? He was just like them. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
He could've put a bloody spaceship in that. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
-That sounds like fun. -What we make are independent British movies. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
They have a certain appeal to a very wide audience. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
They still perform incredibly well on DVD. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
I don't think there's any shame in that. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
When I was a kid, growing up in the '80s, getting a video | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
from the video shop was just as much of a treat as going to the cinema. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
You'll finish these guys and then... | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
..you'll vanish. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
Avengers Assemble is a steak dinner and this is a McDonald's. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
Action! | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
And 20 million gets you a fair few Happy Meals. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
First-time filmmakers having a budget of £19 million? Impossible. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
I don't know where that came from. That's just nonsense. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
I mean, that just has dodgy written all over it. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
But, of course, the problem is, to the layman in the street, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
or the pub or wherever they tap up their victims, when you say, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
"I'm making a £19 million movie," it sounds much more impressive than, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
"I'm making a film down the road for a bag of chips and some peanuts." | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
That fact didn't escape Her Majesty's tax inspectors either. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
So they asked Aoife to show them what had been shot | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
so far on the big-budget blockbuster, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
A Landscape of Lives. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
Aoife asked me to organise a test shoot of selected scenes | 0:23:00 | 0:23:05 | |
from A Landscape of Lives, but there was no budget for the test shoot. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
I had to get all the equipment, the lights, the cameras | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
and stuff completely free off the back of contacts that I had. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:19 | |
And the DOP, who was a student that I brought in to shoot it, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
he had his own camera, so he brought that. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
Everybody else worked for a minimal fee. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
-Are you fucking crazy?! -Wait! -No, you wait! | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
Have you any idea what he'll do to us if he finds out? | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
I know how crazy it sounds, but trust us. We know what we're doing. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
Just imagine a group of students getting together | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
and acting out some pretty disjointed, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
not particularly well-written pages of script | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
with a borrowed kit, without all the lights and, you know, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
with none of the location that... you know, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
it was really shot in someone's flat in one room. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
I mean, it was just atrocious. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
-He said he'll come. -He'll be here. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
Yeah, well, he fucking better be! | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
The test shoot was four men in a room, looking angry. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
And to us, fairly untrained, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
we did think it was slightly humorous that something | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
that would feature Omar Sharif would start in such a humble way. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:23 | |
HMRC put two and two together | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
and found they didn't quite make four, they made minus 800,000. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:34 | |
It's a lot of money. It's £800,000. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
I have to try to get that back. How are we going to do that? | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
We're going to do that by arresting, by searching and prosecuting. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:46 | |
For Aoife and the rest of the seven dwarves, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
whether this was a gigantic balls-up | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
with tax papers filed before the Jordanian cash had come through, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:57 | |
or a genuine shot at thieving, | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
things were about to get pretty nasty. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
Yeah, April 11th was obviously quite a traumatic day. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
Being arrested at 7:30, walking out of my house to go to work, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
um...it's something I would hope never to have repeated. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
There was a buzz on my buzzer and I thought, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
"Oh, God, it will be the Jehovah's Witnesses, I won't answer it". | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
Buzz-buzz-buzz! | 0:25:35 | 0:25:36 | |
I thought, "Oh, I'd better answer it". And it was HMRC. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
He came in and explained that they were under investigation. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:47 | |
I went completely cold and I was just, um...really shaking. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
I couldn't have probably looked more guilty if I'd tried. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
I just looked like your archetypal, you know, er...villain. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
Sarah Clarke, a drop in this bucket of buffoonery, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
handed over all her emails to HMRC | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
and was soon eliminated from their investigation. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
But the other six were deep in it. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
I met up with Bashar and Aoife the day after they'd been arrested. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:16 | |
And Bashar was sort of... | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
I don't think he really understood what had happened. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
Aoife was in bits and pieces. She was crying. She was very upset. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
Because she couldn't understand what she'd done wrong. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
Seven producers of A Landscape of Lives have been arrested | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
and then released on bail. Why? | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
For claiming the tax on the movie they didn't, or couldn't make. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
Charges for VAT and Film Tax Credit fraud soon followed. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
All the producers for the Landscape of Lives could do now | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
was wait for the trial. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
Or was it? | 0:26:53 | 0:26:54 | |
Bashar and Aoife decided that they should finish the film, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
because the whole case against them | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
appeared to be there was no film and this was a sham. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
Initially, when we were arrested, it was clearly put to us that this | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
was a complete bogus situation and it was never intended to be a film. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
But I don't think that is the case. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
I'm sure there was always an intent to make a film. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
That's what he wanted to do. And he wanted to be Quentin Tarantino. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:27 | |
NARRATOR CHUCKLES Quentin never got arrested. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
You heard right, by the way, our producers thought | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
the best foot forward was to make the film regardless. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
But making a movie on bail would present new challenges. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
The investors Bashar claimed he had lined up had now pulled out. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:49 | |
"Scared off by the investigations", so he said. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
That meant no £19.6 mil. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
And no cash meant Michael Caine and his ilk | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
were completely out of the picture. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
But London has another kind of film industry. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
The world of low-budget filmmaking. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
A reservoir of undiscovered talent. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
HUBBUB | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
We worked together on the doors for 10 years or so. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
Different clubs and then occasionally, | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
-we'd join up at the same club. -I used to love it. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
I used to turn up, five minutes in it, first punter give me | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
the dirty look, spank! "You ain't coming in. Next!" | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
There were times you would razz to a club because it was kicking off. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
We'd be on a door and you'd get, "Oh, it's kicking off down the..." | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
I don't know, "the Rose and Crown. It's kicking off". "Let's go!" | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
He'd get in his car and he'd burn down there just to get in a ruck. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
In the late '80s, early '90s, I was quite happy to have, | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
like, a three-minute scrap. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
But it just reached a point where, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:02 | |
"If I'm going to get in a fight, I'm going to put you down fast." | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
And I would be using manoeuvres that were dangerous | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
because I just didn't want to fight. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:09 | |
It was a case of, "You're going down". | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
I'd punch people in the throat, I'd do whatever needed to be done. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
My attitude was, you beat someone up, | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
the following week, they come back with ten mates. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
You kill someone, they ain't coming back. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
And that's how my mindset was getting. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
SHOUTS OF ENCOURAGEMENT | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
An incident went off on the door and my daughter had been born | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
and CS gas and pepper spray went off. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:35 | |
And by the time I got home, obviously, I was covered in it. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
Usually, I'd get home at 4, 4:30, as she was waking up for a feed, | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
so I would get in, feed her, my wife, she'd carry on sleeping. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
But this particular night, | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
I couldn't touch her because I was literally head to toe CS gas. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
It was all on my clothes. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:55 | |
And it was from that point I thought, "You know what...?" | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
And that was my last night. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
Well, the writing was to get out the demons | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
from the days of doing the door work. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
It was a way just to express myself and just... | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
There's a lot that sits on your conscience and on your chest. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
It's... You know, you need a way to vent that. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
# Roll out the barrels | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
# Welcome to London | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
# Roll out the barrels | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
# Have a cup of tea with me | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
# Welcome to London | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
-# Welcome to... -# London is the place to be... # | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
The reason I got into filmmaking was to prove a point to another writer. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
The initial idea behind Thugs, Mugs and Violence | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
was that there was a lot of talk at the time | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
about how expensive it was to make a full production feature film. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
As a published author, I think | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
Paul got into conversation with someone and said, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
"Well, I, for the life of me can't see where all the money goes. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:54 | |
"And I'm pretty positive that I could produce a movie for, | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
"you know, less than 10 grand." | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
Are you sure this story has no heroes to root for | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
and no fairy-tale ending? | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
My readers will love it. The end of the London crime scene. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
It's not ended, it's just been forced to change its players. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
First up is Tony Declan, AKA The Ant. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
He runs South London. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:18 | |
He's a nasty bastard and he doesn't like being pissed off by people. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:24 | |
We got a cast together. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:25 | |
Er...scraped together a lot of favours. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:30 | |
Er...produced some good scenes within the film | 0:31:30 | 0:31:35 | |
and some not so good. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
Um...I think, basically, down to the fact that we quickly realised | 0:31:37 | 0:31:42 | |
we'd bitten off more than we could chew with things like, um...sound. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:48 | |
MUFFLED SOUND | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
And, um...er...various people's acting abilities. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:10 | |
-We'll have this dance later! -Tiff! | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
Oh! | 0:32:15 | 0:32:16 | |
Hold on, rewind a little bit. A bird took down Fearsome? | 0:32:17 | 0:32:22 | |
Ah, yes, Natalia. The six-foot-five Serbian. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
The deadly killer is part of the Slavic movement in London. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
I had so much fun on our first film, | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
despite the fact it was day after day of disasters, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
but from there, it was, like, "You know what, I can..." | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
I could see a career in this and that's what I went for. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
Paul Knight had directed a handful of films which had never | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
been released, though he had uploaded some of them to Youtube. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:49 | |
Now came his big break. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
I sat down with AB productions | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
and we came up with a list of wonderful directors. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
Because it's very important that you look at directors' works | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
and see how they work. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
You know, what type of images they want to give the audience, | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
the type of audience they attract, | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
the type of shots they're interested in, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
the type of films they're interested in | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
and what style they're either coming from or going to. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:19 | |
When you say big, big fuck-off deal. Just how big are we talking about? | 0:33:19 | 0:33:24 | |
As big as your cock. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
Because the film was gangster, thriller, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
we decided to look for someone in that genre. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
Hi, I'm Paul Knight, cofounder of New Breed Productions | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
and I am part of a Landscape of Lives | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
as the screenplay writer and director. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
I was asked to rewrite Landscape of Lives. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
I read the original and... | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
HE EXHALES | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
I could see where the author was trying to go, | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
um...but I would say, from a writing point of view, | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
his own life experiences... | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
..made him oversee or fantasise a little bit too much. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
Because he didn't know how the real world worked. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
PIANO RECITAL | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
Paul had drawn on his own real-life experiences and reworked | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
Stuart Knight's script for our bail birds, Bashar and Aoife. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
The LA thriller had become an Essex crime caper with violent gangsters, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:27 | |
an Iraqi war veteran and a mystery killer on the loose. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
Things were looking up. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
SHOUTS OF ENCOURAGEMENT | 0:34:33 | 0:34:34 | |
Freddie and Cliff don't need any introductions, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
if you're from the East End, South London. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
Did I tell you? | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
Paul has connections. He's the godson of Charlie Kray. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
Paul, he's been a face for years round about, you know? | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
He's come from where we all come from, you know, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
the other side of the fence. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
What do you think of all these British gangster movies? | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
I haven't seen a good one yet. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
-Why not? -Because they're not real. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
They're not proper. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:03 | |
They're writers writing a load of shit, to be honest. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
They don't know what it's all about and they never will do. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
-They don't ask the proper people. -They don't ask the right people. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
Even when they made the Train Robbery, I mean, Buster, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
he was one of the loveliest guys in the world | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
and yet, they made him look an idiot. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:21 | |
When they done The Krays, | 0:35:21 | 0:35:22 | |
Violet Kray is the loveliest lady you could ever meet. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
It's not a glamorous life being a gangster, anyway. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
You've got to make them real people. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
They're just normal people, like everyone else. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
They've got that criminal streak in them | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
and they want to improve their lifestyle. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
You listen to me, you change your attitude, or you'll regret it. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
Are you threatening me, Miss?! I'll have your job for that, yeah! | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
Hannah Clancy, make your way to the headmaster's office now. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
-I'll be along shortly. -Why - for a threesome? | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
-Yeah, you wish. -Out! | 0:35:57 | 0:35:58 | |
Cut. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
Paul Knight was knee-deep in production. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
He'd become a pawn in a mug's game. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
He'd written the script, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
but he didn't know what was happening behind the scenes. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
He began to cast his blockbuster | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
with a new budget from Bashar of under £100,000. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
Not that that stopped him going after some big names. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
-Thank you. -Yay! | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
That's lovely. I'm so happy! | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
Trying to find a strong British actress that was known, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:38 | |
that was in the late 30s bracket | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
that you wasn't going to be paying Hollywood money for was tough. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:47 | |
When I was describing the character of Audrey to my wife | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
while writing, she flicked on the TV to Loose Women and she said, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:57 | |
"You've just described this woman". | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
And it was Andrea McLean. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
Oxford Dictionaries have revealed their word of the year. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:05 | |
It's something long, hard to pron... Something long and hard! | 0:37:05 | 0:37:09 | |
I just contacted her agent and I said, | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
"Look, I know she doesn't act, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
"but I've got this film, we're shooting this month". | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
And the agent said, "Well, I'll pass on the script to her". | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
And then I got an email direct from Andrea. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
She said, "Look, I haven't acted, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
"but I would kick myself if I turned down an opportunity". | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
She said, "I can't guarantee I'm going to be any good". | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
And it was, like, "Well, from what you've read, I can work with." | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
And that's how we got her involved. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
I got a phone call from a friend of mine who's in the kind of film game. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
And just said, "Danny, there's a part come up. Are you available? | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
"The director's seen your work, he's happy for you to play it. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
"Do you want to come along and do it?" | 0:37:45 | 0:37:46 | |
I said, "Send me over the script". | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
I saw the script, it was a bit of a PA secretary part, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
which is kind of different to what I normally play, so I was, like, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
"Great. Show a bit of variety." | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
Paul came to me, I was working in a bar in Soho | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
and he literally offered me the role. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
He had me down for playing Tess in the film. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
And working with the calibre of actors he was showcasing to me, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:10 | |
I was, like, "Yeah, man, bang in there!" | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
So, yeah, it was a great opportunity and I love how Paul writes. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
Like, he's like a modern-day, er...er...urban Shakespeare. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:23 | |
I try and keep it flowing as far to the end as possible. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:28 | |
I mean, we did... On the rough draft of it, we had a quick read-through. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
I want that land and you're going to sell it to me. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
-Why would I do that? -Because you're a smart man. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
You have a lovely family, a great home. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
-Do you want to keep that? -Are you threatening me? | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
Did you hear me threatening you? | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
I think you've seen too many gangster movies. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
You look around this city and you can't throw a stone | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
without hitting something that is there because of me. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:55 | |
I make no bones that in my past, I've done bad things. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
I ran with bad people, was in certain crowds. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
We did things. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
And my wife criticises my work | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
because she says I don't put no heart into my characters. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:12 | |
I live in a world where... That's because I know there is no heart. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
You know what I mean? | 0:39:16 | 0:39:17 | |
That is for soppy love stories, that's not the real world. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
The real world, this is how it is. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:21 | |
But I do know that a film's got to have four "oh-ohs", | 0:39:21 | 0:39:26 | |
and one "Oh, fuck" moment. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:30 | |
The land isn't for sale. Construction is already under way. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
Then change them and find somewhere else to build, | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
or you will find out just how far my influence goes. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
Nah. I think it's you that's watched too many gangster films. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
I don't watch gangster films, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
I'm the fucking evil bastard that they all are based on. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
I think you'd better leave now, before I call security. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
Shut up, you fucking muppet! | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
These are lines, in all fairness, | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
that I have said to people in... a previous life, if you like. | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
-Er... -Paul thought this film was his big break. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:06 | |
His reward for going straight. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
But it's hard to leave the place you've come from. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
Maybe it was a sixth sense, but the last detail, | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
just before shooting, Paul added a final correction to the script, | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
removing one letter from the title. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
A Landscape of Lives became A Landscape of Lies. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:27 | |
Scene 32, slate 1, take 6. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
There is a lot of fine detail. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
And the fine-detailing of that comes down to | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
motivating a team to do the vision, which is within words. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:41 | |
And moving that words from actual words into a story, | 0:40:41 | 0:40:46 | |
which is visually... Can be conveyed. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
And that pulls a lot of consensus. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
OK, good. Yeah. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:53 | |
Scene 32, slate 1, take 1. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
And so began one of the most imaginative attempts | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
to cover one's tracks in the history of covering one's tracks. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
This was going to be a movie like no other - | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
in which the entire cast and crew, unbeknown to themselves, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
would be acting out an alibi for a multimillion-pound fraud | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
against Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
Why indeed, Mr Fassbender? | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
Day one on business, we clashed. Because he didn't have... | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
The deal was, I was getting the crew on | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
and we was paying 50% of their money upfront | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
and they wasn't getting the rest | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
until the end of the shoot, when we wrapped. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
And I said, "Right, I've got the DOP, I've got the sound guy, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
"I've got the lighting guys, they're all coming up to the office. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
"I will need whatever the sum was there so I can pay 'em." | 0:41:42 | 0:41:47 | |
And he failed to get the money. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
So straightaway, it was, like, "Well, you're making me look silly. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
"I'm doing you the favour, all you had to do was supply the money. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
"Go get the money. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
"You keep telling me you're a rich bloody building guy, | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
"go to your bloody bank. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
"I can go to my bank. Go to your bank and get the money." | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
He took offence, felt he shouldn't be spoken to like that. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
So straightaway, we're locking... you know. He's not having it. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:15 | |
I won't take his bollocks | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
and I certainly wasn't going to bow down to him. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
There was kind of like a power struggle between Paul and Bashar. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:27 | |
Because Bashar likes to be, um... | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
Bashar and Aoife, they both like to be in control. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
So, our cast was meant to arrive at 3.00, it is now 5.55. Huh! | 0:42:34 | 0:42:40 | |
Luckily, we still aren't ready for them, | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
but they are three hours late. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
-But we have food. -Food has been ordered. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
-Dinner is pasta, pizzas... -Lasagne. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
..lasagne, bolognese and much more out in the kitchens. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
Lots of chocolate, lots of coffee. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
Lots of coffee. | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
And we're trying to get it ready, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:00 | |
but we're quite concerned that we have no crew and no cast | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
-at present. -It's just us. -And we don't know where they are. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
-HE SIGHS -As a producer? | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
Eager... | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
willing... | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
..inexperienced. There you go, there's three words. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
To be honest, it was like any other, um...low-budget British film set. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:22 | |
You know, it was quite organised. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
The first AD seemed to be quite organised and prompt. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
We was moving forward quite quickly. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
The director seemed to know what he wanted | 0:43:29 | 0:43:31 | |
and he spent time with the actors, but not lots and lots and lots. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:35 | |
We wasn't shooting hundreds of pages a day, but enough. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
Charmed, I'm sure. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:40 | |
And cut! | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
I concluded my final day's shoot and from what I'd seen personally, | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
I thought we had something that was pretty worthy. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:53 | |
At the end, it was just a great feeling that that was it. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
We wrapped. | 0:43:56 | 0:43:58 | |
Um...I was in a position to pay off the heads of departments' | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
final payment, everyone was settled and it was, like, | 0:44:01 | 0:44:05 | |
down the local boozer, let's have a couple. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:07 | |
For the cast and crew involved, that was the day they finished | 0:44:07 | 0:44:11 | |
and my journey continued. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:13 | |
And obviously, then, it was, | 0:44:13 | 0:44:15 | |
"Well, now you need to settle up some bills | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
"before it goes into edit and now you need to do this and..." | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
As far as I was concerned, four months, we've gone from | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
finalising a script, here's your finished film. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:26 | |
We went for a viewing around Aoife's flat Sunday night. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:30 | |
Didn't even start watching it till, like, one in the morning | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
because I literally came straight from the editor's house | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
and just went, "There's your finished product. Give it a watch." | 0:44:36 | 0:44:39 | |
We all sat down, they had, like, comfy sofas and a projector. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:54 | |
-So we watched the film. -RAPID GUNFIRE | 0:44:55 | 0:44:58 | |
-What the fuck was that?! -Pull back! | 0:44:58 | 0:45:00 | |
-I can't see a fucking thing! -Pull back! | 0:45:00 | 0:45:02 | |
Pull back! Everyone pull the fuck back! | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
RAPID GUNFIRE | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
HE GASPS | 0:45:07 | 0:45:08 | |
The whole idea of whatever your budget is, | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
your end result's got to look like it's ten times more. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:14 | |
Um...and I believe, with the production value and the props | 0:45:14 | 0:45:19 | |
and the cars and what we used in the film... | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
..you wouldn't doubt that it could cost a million pound. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:26 | |
HORN BLASTS | 0:45:26 | 0:45:28 | |
Oi-oi, saveloy. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:31 | |
Sarge. You, er...coming or going? | 0:45:31 | 0:45:36 | |
I've already finished coming, son. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:38 | |
Hop in, I'll treat you to breakfast. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:40 | |
Basically, we've got a couple of guys who've met in the army, | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
um...have served together, | 0:45:47 | 0:45:49 | |
um...have both been honourably discharged. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:53 | |
-You stay and finish up. You got my back? -Always. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:57 | |
I know you do, soldier. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
You stay safe. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:02 | |
And all of a sudden, one of them has been found murdered. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
And so his friend, who's served with him, | 0:46:05 | 0:46:07 | |
has decided that something's not quite right | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
and he'll start to conduct his own type of investigation. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:15 | |
-Jane? -Yeah. -Brannigan sent me. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:19 | |
-Ah, you're Jacob, right? -Yeah. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:21 | |
Welcome to the Blue Lounge. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:24 | |
-Is this a strip club? -Burlesque. -Is there a difference? | 0:46:25 | 0:46:28 | |
Big-time. Burlesque is really in at the moment. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
The crowd loves it. It's more tease than sleaze. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
It's not a straightforward revenge, it's not a straightforward thriller, | 0:46:34 | 0:46:38 | |
it's not a straightforward drama, it's not a straightforward romance. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:42 | |
So it's just a collection of four people's lives entwined | 0:46:42 | 0:46:46 | |
and there just happens to be murder and intrigue | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
and double-crossing involved. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:51 | |
-You bastard! What did you do to him?! -What you talking about?! | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
You were working with him last night! You're here and he's dead! | 0:46:58 | 0:47:03 | |
I came over as soon as I seen it on the news. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
I'm DCI Lane. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:09 | |
We had a good script, um...we had some...some...um... | 0:47:09 | 0:47:14 | |
loosely termed, named actors. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:16 | |
Certainly people you'd recognise off the TV. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
-Your friend seems to have had a great night. -Mm. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
-She deserves it. She's a good girl. -Oh, really? | 0:47:22 | 0:47:26 | |
And what about you? Good girl? Bad girl? | 0:47:26 | 0:47:29 | |
-Oh, I'm a bad girl. -Yeah? | 0:47:29 | 0:47:31 | |
I'm a really bad girl! | 0:47:31 | 0:47:32 | |
I'm a massive fan of Loose Women, so when I saw it, | 0:47:32 | 0:47:35 | |
I was, like, "Oh, my God, you're that chick from Loose Women!" | 0:47:35 | 0:47:39 | |
And she goes, "Yeah, yeah, I'm Andrea McLean." | 0:47:39 | 0:47:42 | |
I was, like... Um...it was a real pleasure to meet her, | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
because we actually had a little chat because she was nervous. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
How's Alice? | 0:47:47 | 0:47:50 | |
She's good. She misses you. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:53 | |
You should come over for dinner one night. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:55 | |
And our relationship in the film was basically that we had | 0:47:55 | 0:47:59 | |
something kind of, maybe going on. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:01 | |
So there was another sort of, um...puzzle, you know, | 0:48:01 | 0:48:03 | |
a bit of the landscape happening that Paul was sort of trying to, | 0:48:03 | 0:48:06 | |
er...piece together. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:08 | |
The land isn't for sale. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
Construction plans are already under way. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:12 | |
Hm. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:14 | |
Change 'em. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:17 | |
Look at me. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:19 | |
And go and build yourself somewhere else. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:25 | |
Or you will see just how far my influence goes. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:32 | |
I think it's you who's watched too many gangster movies. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:35 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:48:35 | 0:48:37 | |
I don't watch gangster movies! | 0:48:42 | 0:48:43 | |
I'm the evil fucking bastard that they base them on. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
I think you'd better go before I call security, OK? | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
There was a bit in the film when, um...I say something like, um... | 0:48:52 | 0:48:57 | |
"I will find you and I will kill you." | 0:48:57 | 0:48:59 | |
It was kind like, um...in, er... | 0:48:59 | 0:49:01 | |
Liam Neeson in Taken. I had that in my head. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:04 | |
You involve the police... | 0:49:05 | 0:49:06 | |
..I WILL kill you. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:09 | |
And your wife. And your daughter. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
And your fuckin' next door neighbour's cat. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:16 | |
Everyone seemed to enjoy it, with the exception of Bashar. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:19 | |
"I didn't get it." | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
And it was like, | 0:49:21 | 0:49:22 | |
"Well, it's the script that you had four months ago." | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
"Well, I didn't read the script, so..." | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
I said, "Well, this is your film." | 0:49:28 | 0:49:30 | |
They tied her to that dead body they found down at the site. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:33 | |
What? | 0:49:33 | 0:49:35 | |
Did she do it? | 0:49:35 | 0:49:36 | |
How would I know? | 0:49:36 | 0:49:38 | |
Cos that woman don't fart unless you tell her to. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
Yeah, well, they didn't nick her for farting, Jacob, | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
they nicked her for murder. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
The film has some desert scenes in it, | 0:49:44 | 0:49:46 | |
so we had to think about how we would organise | 0:49:46 | 0:49:50 | |
how we would get a team out into the Middle East | 0:49:50 | 0:49:52 | |
to film the desert scenes. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
We found out, actually, that the best way to approach that | 0:49:55 | 0:49:57 | |
was to go to Jordan, | 0:49:57 | 0:49:59 | |
where the Jordanian Film Council welcome a lot of films - | 0:49:59 | 0:50:02 | |
Hurt Locker was filmed there, many other films have been filmed there, | 0:50:02 | 0:50:07 | |
so they welcomed us very well - | 0:50:07 | 0:50:10 | |
but that's another story, which I'll go into another time. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:14 | |
In Landscape Of Lies I was a soldier. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:17 | |
Um...yeah. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:20 | |
I turned up to location, and... | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
the first thing I thought was, | 0:50:23 | 0:50:25 | |
"Oh, my God, this film is going to be crap." | 0:50:25 | 0:50:28 | |
Jake, pour me a big one, will you? | 0:50:28 | 0:50:29 | |
-And a small fruit juice for the lady. -Fuck off, I'll have what I want! | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
-Ease off her, she'll kick your arse, mate. -She can lick my arse. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
We both know you don't go back to front. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:37 | |
Sullings, you ever been mistaken for a man? | 0:50:37 | 0:50:39 | |
-No, have you?! -Attention! -LAUGHTER | 0:50:39 | 0:50:41 | |
Pretending to be in the desert, when I was actually in a... | 0:50:41 | 0:50:45 | |
Where were we? | 0:50:45 | 0:50:47 | |
Um...was it Essex? I can't remember. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:49 | |
But in some quarry somewhere! | 0:50:49 | 0:50:52 | |
When you have Maeve and Aoife dressed in burqas, | 0:50:56 | 0:51:00 | |
and they have, like, a table and someone selling fruit, I think... | 0:51:00 | 0:51:05 | |
and there was, like, a boy in a burqa... | 0:51:05 | 0:51:09 | |
It was just laughable. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:11 | |
Now, you can see why a geezer might think | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
this lot were not arch-villains. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:17 | |
Which self-respecting criminal would try on a cover-up like this? | 0:51:17 | 0:51:21 | |
The first time I met Aoife was at the Soho Screening Rooms | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
at the screening of Landscape Of Lies, | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
and Aoife was kind of running the screening. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:33 | |
So, I watched this film, | 0:51:33 | 0:51:34 | |
and the producer asked me, "What did you think of the film?" | 0:51:34 | 0:51:39 | |
And I said, "Well, for one thing, you've got typos in your credits." | 0:51:39 | 0:51:44 | |
She said, "Typos?" I said, "Yes, you've spelt words wrong - | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
"like 'colourist' is spelt 'courist'." | 0:51:47 | 0:51:50 | |
And I said, "You should get that right, really." | 0:51:50 | 0:51:52 | |
And, "Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll make a note of that." | 0:51:52 | 0:51:54 | |
And then I said, "Well, why would you invent a second unit in Jordan? | 0:51:54 | 0:51:58 | |
"There's no second unit." "Oh, no, yes, there is!" | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
I said, "No, you filmed this... | 0:52:01 | 0:52:02 | |
"you filmed this army scene in a field in Dorset, | 0:52:02 | 0:52:06 | |
"it's, like grass," you know? | 0:52:06 | 0:52:08 | |
"I've lived in the Middle East, this is not filmed in the Middle East." | 0:52:08 | 0:52:12 | |
"Oh, no..." | 0:52:12 | 0:52:14 | |
So, I questioned Bashar - | 0:52:14 | 0:52:15 | |
I said, "Why would you invent a second unit in Jordan?" | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
"Oh, no, we DO have a second..." | 0:52:18 | 0:52:19 | |
I said, "No." I said, "All of the names of the crewmembers..." | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
Because I've lived in the Middle East, I know Middle Eastern names - | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
the equivalent was "John Smith", "Mary Blogg", "Joe Blogg", | 0:52:25 | 0:52:29 | |
I mean, these were generic Arabic names. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
-GUNSHOT -Oh, shit! Contact, contact! | 0:52:32 | 0:52:35 | |
-What the fuck was that? -GUNSHOT | 0:52:35 | 0:52:37 | |
I can't see a fucking thing! Pull back. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:39 | |
Pull back - everyone pull the fuck back. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:41 | |
-Pull the fuck back! -GUNSHOT | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
KNOCK AT DOOR | 0:52:46 | 0:52:48 | |
We weren't to know that they were going to make a film | 0:52:48 | 0:52:51 | |
until another very astute officer was doing some research | 0:52:51 | 0:52:55 | |
on the internet and realised that all of a sudden, | 0:52:55 | 0:52:59 | |
a film that WAS going to be made, called A Landscape Of Lives - | 0:52:59 | 0:53:03 | |
which wasn't a film, and we were absolutely certain wasn't a film - | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
had now become something called A Landscape Of Lies. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:10 | |
What are you doing here? | 0:53:10 | 0:53:11 | |
I just needed someone to talk to. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
Come in. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:15 | |
We were staggered, to be honest - | 0:53:15 | 0:53:17 | |
in fact, it was the cause, initially, of much hilarity - | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
that Mr Al-Issa believed if he produced a film, | 0:53:20 | 0:53:26 | |
the case would go away. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:28 | |
And we all firmly believed, to a man, on the team, | 0:53:28 | 0:53:32 | |
they were doing this in order to prevent us | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
charging them with the fraud. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:36 | |
Bashar and Aoife had a lot to prove - | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
but why the Jordanian ruse? | 0:53:42 | 0:53:43 | |
It was the wrong time to play silly with the authorities. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:48 | |
The British Government had started investigating | 0:53:48 | 0:53:51 | |
a handful of film producers and financiers for film tax fraud. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:55 | |
Their inquiries had dragged on - | 0:53:55 | 0:53:58 | |
up until this point, without many guilty verdicts. | 0:53:58 | 0:54:01 | |
There have been about 255 investments. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | |
How many of them have actually been investigated or challenged by HMRC? | 0:54:03 | 0:54:06 | |
Er, so, I have that information. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:08 | |
Um, of the 255, 127 have been subjected to HMRC inquiries, | 0:54:08 | 0:54:14 | |
13 are in litigation, | 0:54:14 | 0:54:16 | |
two have been fully litigated, | 0:54:16 | 0:54:19 | |
all they way to the Court of Appeal, and we won both. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:23 | |
The taxman was under pressure to find a clear-cut case, and win it... | 0:54:24 | 0:54:29 | |
and then, along came A Landscape Of Lives. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:33 | |
So, the officer looked behind the company | 0:54:33 | 0:54:35 | |
that allegedly supplied lighting, crew and production costs. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:40 | |
Aoife Madden produced to him invoices with AB Productions on - | 0:54:40 | 0:54:44 | |
who are they? Where are they? | 0:54:44 | 0:54:46 | |
It was a very simple job for him to go back into the office, | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
look into AB Productions, | 0:54:49 | 0:54:51 | |
so he contacted colleagues in Manchester, he said to them, | 0:54:51 | 0:54:55 | |
"Would you go round? | 0:54:55 | 0:54:57 | |
"Do they look like a film company?" | 0:54:57 | 0:54:59 | |
The crazy thing that did happen is that, because of my nature, | 0:55:00 | 0:55:04 | |
I allowed myself to sit in a VAT meeting - | 0:55:04 | 0:55:09 | |
which, again, used my office - | 0:55:09 | 0:55:12 | |
and principally, because Osama isn't a very good communicator, | 0:55:12 | 0:55:15 | |
and knowing that from having worked with him | 0:55:15 | 0:55:17 | |
inside the construction side, | 0:55:17 | 0:55:19 | |
then I tried to explain to the VAT officer | 0:55:19 | 0:55:21 | |
that this WAS a legitimate film, cos it's what I believed, | 0:55:21 | 0:55:25 | |
and explain what was happening. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:27 | |
So, she then reads into, | 0:55:27 | 0:55:29 | |
well, I'm just carrying on the lie that exists. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:32 | |
Her Majesty's Customs & Revenue | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
thought they'd uncovered a classic, time-honoured scam - | 0:55:35 | 0:55:39 | |
the VAT "carousel". | 0:55:39 | 0:55:41 | |
They'd seen three different companies all set up by Bashar - | 0:55:42 | 0:55:46 | |
Evolved, AB and A to Z - | 0:55:46 | 0:55:50 | |
all making A Landscape Of Lives. | 0:55:50 | 0:55:53 | |
These companies had billed each other for the damage, | 0:55:55 | 0:55:58 | |
and claimed back thousands in VAT - | 0:55:58 | 0:56:02 | |
without paying out any dosh themselves. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:05 | |
And then they wired that cash into accounts in a foreign country | 0:56:07 | 0:56:11 | |
where they HADN'T been filming. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:13 | |
We know that the £800,000, when it was paid out by HMRC, | 0:56:13 | 0:56:19 | |
left the country pretty quickly. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:22 | |
It went off to banks in Jordan. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:25 | |
Fraud, generally, it's about money. It's about greed. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
It's how much people can get out of whatever rip-off they're running. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:32 | |
So, the money moves very, very quickly, in my experience, | 0:56:32 | 0:56:36 | |
out of the recipient account. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:38 | |
Because one of the things, clearly, that we are going to do, | 0:56:38 | 0:56:41 | |
as investigators, is look at where the money's gone. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:44 | |
Follow the money, you can usually unravel the fraud. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:47 | |
The more I hear about the shenanigans on this | 0:56:47 | 0:56:49 | |
Landscape Of Lies, the more amazed I am. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:51 | |
Because if I put in a VAT rebate claim for a grand, | 0:56:51 | 0:56:53 | |
they're all over it forensically, trying to not give it to you, | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
because, you know - the Revenue are lovely, | 0:56:56 | 0:56:58 | |
but they never want to give you any money back. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:00 | |
I mean, HMRC scrutinise everything. | 0:57:00 | 0:57:01 | |
I really don't know how they managed to get that under the radar. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
You know, I guess maybe they were on holiday that week. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:08 | |
Aoife and Bashar had been on bail for eight months, | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
and had produced a feature film - | 0:57:11 | 0:57:13 | |
and once they'd done it, they didn't fancy stopping there. | 0:57:13 | 0:57:17 | |
It was enjoyable, this film lark. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:20 | |
They submitted A Landscape Of Lies to international film festivals. | 0:57:20 | 0:57:24 | |
It was accepted by two of the minor ones - | 0:57:25 | 0:57:28 | |
Marbella, in Spain... | 0:57:28 | 0:57:29 | |
..and Las Vegas... | 0:57:30 | 0:57:32 | |
coincidentally, two hotbeds of organised crime. | 0:57:32 | 0:57:36 | |
Bashar wanted to sell the film, | 0:57:36 | 0:57:38 | |
so he took it to Europe's biggest festival, | 0:57:38 | 0:57:41 | |
Cannes. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:43 | |
-ALANA: -Cannes was really good. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:44 | |
Me and Bashar drove down to Cannes, and I had set up | 0:57:44 | 0:57:49 | |
a load of meetings with distribution companies and sales agents - | 0:57:49 | 0:57:53 | |
we had a meeting with Universal - | 0:57:53 | 0:57:55 | |
and Bashar was wanting to sell Landscape Of Lies - | 0:57:55 | 0:57:58 | |
but he also wanted to know what was selling really well, | 0:57:58 | 0:58:02 | |
what audience wanted. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
They said that you could sell horror a lot easier | 0:58:05 | 0:58:08 | |
than you could a British crime thriller - | 0:58:08 | 0:58:10 | |
and that's why we ended up making Crux. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:13 | |
Bashar didn't sell A Landscape Of Lies in Cannes, | 0:58:13 | 0:58:16 | |
but the trip inspired him to try his hand at another movie genre. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:20 | |
Aoife's brother Joe wrote the script in two weeks, | 0:58:20 | 0:58:24 | |
and Aoife found the location. | 0:58:24 | 0:58:27 | |
We shot a film in...I think it was, like, a month, end-to-end. | 0:58:27 | 0:58:32 | |
Bashar did say he thought he'd learnt enough to direct | 0:58:32 | 0:58:35 | |
the next one, after Landscape Of Lies. | 0:58:35 | 0:58:38 | |
This probably wasn't true - but the idea was, | 0:58:38 | 0:58:41 | |
he thought he probably could. | 0:58:41 | 0:58:43 | |
I think it was something like 25,000 to make Crux. | 0:58:47 | 0:58:51 | |
Though that's not the figure on "the Wikipedia of the movies" - | 0:58:51 | 0:58:54 | |
the IMDB website. | 0:58:54 | 0:58:57 | |
GIRL SCREAMS | 0:58:57 | 0:58:59 | |
I thought it should have been a comedy film, | 0:59:03 | 0:59:06 | |
because horror and comedy do go well together. | 0:59:06 | 0:59:09 | |
We urgently need your help. Do you have a phone we could use? | 0:59:09 | 0:59:12 | |
'But as a horror film, it stank.' | 0:59:12 | 0:59:14 | |
A phone? | 0:59:14 | 0:59:16 | |
A telephone? | 0:59:19 | 0:59:20 | |
Look, please, do you have a telephone or not? | 0:59:20 | 0:59:24 | |
Ah, yes. A telephone! | 0:59:24 | 0:59:27 | |
Paul Knight was surprised | 0:59:33 | 0:59:34 | |
his old producers were still playing doubles. | 0:59:34 | 0:59:37 | |
It was later in the year. I met Aoife for drinks, | 0:59:37 | 0:59:43 | |
so this is... I haven't spoken to Bashar for months at this point. | 0:59:43 | 0:59:47 | |
The film, obviously, went on into some film festivals | 0:59:47 | 0:59:52 | |
and she contacted me because she needed new copies. | 0:59:52 | 0:59:55 | |
And that's when she was telling me, | 0:59:55 | 0:59:57 | |
"Bashar, you know, he really stuffed me over, | 0:59:57 | 1:00:00 | |
"he's trying to set me up to take the fall for all this." | 1:00:00 | 1:00:02 | |
And I was like, "Oh, wow," but in the next breath | 1:00:02 | 1:00:05 | |
I said, "But then you've made Crux with him. So..." | 1:00:05 | 1:00:09 | |
"Oh, yeah, well, you know, I've got to stick with him." | 1:00:09 | 1:00:12 | |
I knew that Bashar had a court case coming up | 1:00:12 | 1:00:16 | |
but that, according to him, | 1:00:16 | 1:00:17 | |
was to do with his properties in Manchester. | 1:00:17 | 1:00:22 | |
Bashar made it seem as though everything was hunky-dory, really. | 1:00:22 | 1:00:26 | |
We're presented here with three companies | 1:00:28 | 1:00:31 | |
and a group of individuals that are not credible, | 1:00:31 | 1:00:34 | |
that have already had £800,000 out of HMRC, | 1:00:34 | 1:00:38 | |
but actually if they'd had their way and everything had gone to plan, | 1:00:38 | 1:00:43 | |
they would have got away with 2.5 million. | 1:00:43 | 1:00:47 | |
And that's far too much money. | 1:00:47 | 1:00:49 | |
That... They've got a lot of money out of us, | 1:00:49 | 1:00:52 | |
but they're really going for the big one on the film tax credit side. | 1:00:52 | 1:00:55 | |
I was instructed in the autumn of 2012. | 1:01:01 | 1:01:04 | |
It was the first film tax credit case that I had done, | 1:01:04 | 1:01:06 | |
and in fact, I think, I believe, | 1:01:06 | 1:01:08 | |
it's the first one that's actually been through the courts, I think. | 1:01:08 | 1:01:11 | |
So it was sort of learning how the fraud worked, | 1:01:11 | 1:01:15 | |
as much as the evidence to prove this particular fraud. | 1:01:15 | 1:01:18 | |
A case this big, tens of thousands of documents, | 1:01:18 | 1:01:22 | |
lots of digital material to look at, | 1:01:22 | 1:01:24 | |
lots of computers, lots of phones. | 1:01:24 | 1:01:26 | |
It's quite unusual to charge within six, seven months, | 1:01:26 | 1:01:29 | |
quite often it's longer than that. | 1:01:29 | 1:01:31 | |
Bashar had no anxiety about this. | 1:01:33 | 1:01:36 | |
He didn't think he'd done anything wrong. | 1:01:36 | 1:01:38 | |
He always seems to have a very simple, spiritual view of the world | 1:01:38 | 1:01:43 | |
and everything in it. | 1:01:43 | 1:01:45 | |
He just couldn't understand why they were pursuing him. | 1:01:45 | 1:01:48 | |
In autumn 2012, the trial date was finally set | 1:01:50 | 1:01:54 | |
for the end of January the following year. | 1:01:54 | 1:01:57 | |
But even with the legal eagles circling round, our producers felt | 1:01:57 | 1:02:00 | |
there was still time for one last roll of the movie-making dice. | 1:02:00 | 1:02:05 | |
Now, this is exciting. | 1:02:06 | 1:02:08 | |
We're about to take you on the set of a horror film as it's being made. | 1:02:08 | 1:02:13 | |
The film is Dissection, | 1:02:13 | 1:02:16 | |
so let's take a peek. | 1:02:16 | 1:02:18 | |
Hi, I'm Mel, reporting for Indiecan. | 1:02:21 | 1:02:23 | |
We're here today on the set of new horror film Dissection | 1:02:23 | 1:02:25 | |
at Murder Mile Studios in North London. Let's go and have a look. | 1:02:25 | 1:02:29 | |
I came across this job by responding to an ad online for a sci-fi writer. | 1:02:29 | 1:02:35 | |
I sent an outline for a sci-fi film, didn't hear from them for months | 1:02:35 | 1:02:41 | |
and then out of the blue, I got an e-mail | 1:02:41 | 1:02:44 | |
and they sent me a treatment for a sort of torture porn horror movie, | 1:02:44 | 1:02:51 | |
so I was invited in for a meeting at an office in Edgware Road. | 1:02:51 | 1:02:54 | |
Bashar was in a kind of flurry the whole time. | 1:02:56 | 1:02:58 | |
He had this way of just... | 1:02:58 | 1:03:01 | |
..you know, talking abundantly, | 1:03:02 | 1:03:03 | |
but saying absolutely nothing at the same time. | 1:03:03 | 1:03:05 | |
We decided to do another horror | 1:03:05 | 1:03:09 | |
and throughout the journey, I was thinking about ideas | 1:03:09 | 1:03:13 | |
of a different horror film which has more gore and more sort of... | 1:03:13 | 1:03:19 | |
depth into it. | 1:03:19 | 1:03:20 | |
WOMAN GRUNTS | 1:03:22 | 1:03:24 | |
And at that time, I started formulating a synopsis. | 1:03:24 | 1:03:30 | |
From that synopsis, I've collaborated with a creative team | 1:03:30 | 1:03:34 | |
which moved it into a treatment. | 1:03:34 | 1:03:36 | |
As preproduction went on, he started to talk about how he has... | 1:03:36 | 1:03:41 | |
he'd like to direct it. He's been talking to a director, | 1:03:41 | 1:03:44 | |
but he feels he's more inclined to direct it at the moment, | 1:03:44 | 1:03:48 | |
and a few weeks before we started shooting, I actually said to him, | 1:03:48 | 1:03:51 | |
"Look, Bashar, you seem really busy with all this other stuff you're doing, | 1:03:51 | 1:03:55 | |
"your business meetings and all these talks with investors, etc. | 1:03:55 | 1:03:59 | |
"Do you need someone else to direct it?" | 1:03:59 | 1:04:02 | |
"No, no, no, don't worry. I'll be ready, I'll be ready. | 1:04:02 | 1:04:05 | |
"I know I seem very busy right now, but on the day, I'll be ready." | 1:04:05 | 1:04:09 | |
And... And he wasn't. | 1:04:09 | 1:04:11 | |
But then later on, she says, "I know that you don't want to," | 1:04:11 | 1:04:15 | |
because that relates to later when she says, | 1:04:15 | 1:04:17 | |
"I know you don't want to be here, I know you're a prisoner just like us," | 1:04:17 | 1:04:20 | |
-and then I help her. -And that's why I do that. | 1:04:20 | 1:04:22 | |
And she goes, "Maybe not," because she sees... | 1:04:22 | 1:04:24 | |
And then they have a whole conversation about, | 1:04:24 | 1:04:26 | |
they're prisoners here just like us. It actually runs through the script. | 1:04:26 | 1:04:29 | |
-Yeah, but they still want to escape. -Should we just do it like that? | 1:04:29 | 1:04:32 | |
-We don't have time to worry about this sort of stuff. -But they still want to escape. | 1:04:32 | 1:04:36 | |
On set, tension was mounting. | 1:04:36 | 1:04:38 | |
SHE SOBS | 1:04:41 | 1:04:43 | |
What are you doing now? | 1:04:43 | 1:04:46 | |
Bashar and Maeve stopped seeing each other and they would have little, | 1:04:46 | 1:04:49 | |
like, disagreements and it just made things a bit awkward sometimes. | 1:04:49 | 1:04:55 | |
SHE SCREAMS | 1:04:55 | 1:04:57 | |
Cut. Cut. | 1:04:57 | 1:05:00 | |
I actually did see, towards the end of filming, | 1:05:00 | 1:05:03 | |
Maeve have some tete-a-tetes with Aoife, | 1:05:03 | 1:05:07 | |
which I just took as sisterly support, | 1:05:07 | 1:05:10 | |
because it's tough making a movie, and... | 1:05:10 | 1:05:14 | |
And then, on the odd occasion, | 1:05:14 | 1:05:16 | |
she would go off for a little tete-a-tete with Bashar, | 1:05:16 | 1:05:19 | |
but in hindsight, you can speculate all you want, | 1:05:19 | 1:05:22 | |
but what is certainly true | 1:05:22 | 1:05:24 | |
is that towards the end of filming of Dissection, | 1:05:24 | 1:05:27 | |
there were progressively more and more little tete-a-tetes that would happen. | 1:05:27 | 1:05:31 | |
-Could you guys all step out of the light, please? -Sorry. | 1:05:31 | 1:05:34 | |
And she was definitely worried and concerned. | 1:05:34 | 1:05:38 | |
The whole process just really was how not to make a film. | 1:05:38 | 1:05:41 | |
By the end of 2012, Bashar and Aoife had shot three feature films. | 1:05:47 | 1:05:52 | |
An unholy trinity. | 1:05:52 | 1:05:53 | |
But everyone in London works hard to get ahead. | 1:06:00 | 1:06:03 | |
Detectives from the British tax authority, HMRC, | 1:06:03 | 1:06:07 | |
had been beavering away themselves. | 1:06:07 | 1:06:10 | |
TRAIN HORN BLARES | 1:06:10 | 1:06:12 | |
So it was early November that I got this e-mail from the HMRC | 1:06:14 | 1:06:21 | |
and they were just telling me what Evolved and AB had been doing | 1:06:21 | 1:06:25 | |
with this conspiracy to defraud the Film Tax Office | 1:06:25 | 1:06:29 | |
and VAT fraud, and at first | 1:06:29 | 1:06:32 | |
I'm like, "So they evaded some tax?" What's it got to do with me?" | 1:06:32 | 1:06:37 | |
Because I know everyone in my film, with the exception of me, got paid, | 1:06:37 | 1:06:41 | |
and that it was cash, and I've got all the receipts | 1:06:41 | 1:06:44 | |
and invoices for the entire 84K, so I'm not seeing what's gone wrong. | 1:06:44 | 1:06:49 | |
Then obviously they highlighted about Landscape of Lives | 1:06:49 | 1:06:52 | |
and this £19.6 million budget | 1:06:52 | 1:06:55 | |
and it's like, well, "Obviously you helped cover the crime up." | 1:06:55 | 1:07:00 | |
So then they said, | 1:07:00 | 1:07:01 | |
"Well, if you're innocent, we need you to make a statement." | 1:07:01 | 1:07:04 | |
And I said, "Well, no, hang on. I know the law. | 1:07:04 | 1:07:07 | |
"The minute I make a statement, | 1:07:07 | 1:07:09 | |
"I can then not have no dealings with them." | 1:07:09 | 1:07:11 | |
And they said, "Why do you want to deal with them anyway, | 1:07:11 | 1:07:14 | |
"if they've not paid you this money?" | 1:07:14 | 1:07:16 | |
I said, "Cos the simple fact, I still have a film, | 1:07:16 | 1:07:19 | |
"it still needs to be sold, it still needs all three of our signatures, | 1:07:19 | 1:07:24 | |
"so I need to talk to them to sell this film, | 1:07:24 | 1:07:27 | |
"so once the film's sold, do what you like." | 1:07:27 | 1:07:30 | |
Paul Knight was very reluctant to give evidence | 1:07:30 | 1:07:34 | |
and we had to tread a certain path in order to get him into court. | 1:07:34 | 1:07:37 | |
And then out of the blue, this letter arrives | 1:07:37 | 1:07:39 | |
and it's from the taxman | 1:07:39 | 1:07:41 | |
and it turns out that they've gone back eight years of my tax records | 1:07:41 | 1:07:47 | |
to try and see if I hadn't paid tax | 1:07:47 | 1:07:50 | |
or they had something incriminating that they could bargain, | 1:07:50 | 1:07:53 | |
you know, "We'll oversee this if you give us the statement." | 1:07:53 | 1:07:56 | |
Rubbish. | 1:07:56 | 1:07:58 | |
Absolute rubbish. Rubbish. | 1:07:58 | 1:08:00 | |
Once he recognised what he would get out of being in court | 1:08:00 | 1:08:04 | |
and the publicity, he cooperated. | 1:08:04 | 1:08:06 | |
If you've done something wrong, again... | 1:08:07 | 1:08:10 | |
Hey, you know, you've done something wrong, you've done something wrong. We all do something wrong. | 1:08:10 | 1:08:14 | |
To continue to do something wrong with the same people, | 1:08:14 | 1:08:18 | |
it's not even you're making the same mistake with different people, | 1:08:18 | 1:08:21 | |
you're doing it with the same people, | 1:08:21 | 1:08:22 | |
you kind of deserve what's coming your way, | 1:08:22 | 1:08:25 | |
and that's the way I saw it in the end, | 1:08:25 | 1:08:27 | |
and I even tried to tell them, you know, "Get your defence in order, | 1:08:27 | 1:08:31 | |
"this is the evidence I'm going to be giving." | 1:08:31 | 1:08:33 | |
Didn't want to heed that little tip. | 1:08:33 | 1:08:36 | |
And obviously I said to Aoife, | 1:08:36 | 1:08:39 | |
who I knew was still in contact with Bashar, "Bashar pays me my money, | 1:08:39 | 1:08:43 | |
"perhaps my hard drive needs to be formatted | 1:08:43 | 1:08:46 | |
"and every e-mail and everything disappears," | 1:08:46 | 1:08:49 | |
but he didn't want to pay me my money, | 1:08:49 | 1:08:51 | |
so it's like, "Well, you're still not showing me any loyalty, | 1:08:51 | 1:08:55 | |
"you're not showing me anything, | 1:08:55 | 1:08:56 | |
"I don't owe you anything - well, sod you." | 1:08:56 | 1:08:58 | |
And that's why I decided to give the statement in the end. | 1:08:58 | 1:09:01 | |
In the autumn of 2012, there were at that time | 1:09:03 | 1:09:08 | |
about 7,000 pages of evidence that had been served. | 1:09:08 | 1:09:12 | |
By the time we arrived at trial, we were up to about 20,000 pages, | 1:09:12 | 1:09:16 | |
so over the course of the autumn and January of 2013, | 1:09:16 | 1:09:21 | |
we served about another 13,000 pages of evidence, | 1:09:21 | 1:09:25 | |
so the offices were extremely busy in that final quarter of 2012. | 1:09:25 | 1:09:32 | |
On the eve of the trial, | 1:09:39 | 1:09:40 | |
both sides were confident of victory. | 1:09:40 | 1:09:43 | |
HMRC and their lawyers had a pile of invoices | 1:09:43 | 1:09:46 | |
for work that hadn't been done. | 1:09:46 | 1:09:48 | |
Bashar and Aoife had three feature films in the can | 1:09:49 | 1:09:52 | |
to prove they were bona fide film producers. Honest, guv! | 1:09:52 | 1:09:56 | |
INDISTINCT REPORTING | 1:09:57 | 1:09:59 | |
The trial was eye-opening because obviously, | 1:10:03 | 1:10:06 | |
HMRC had a lot more background knowledge | 1:10:06 | 1:10:09 | |
of what was physically happening than I ever did, | 1:10:09 | 1:10:12 | |
and I learned more about what the situation was, | 1:10:12 | 1:10:15 | |
but at that stage it was too late. I was a defendant. | 1:10:15 | 1:10:19 | |
I asked my legal team what was their advice, | 1:10:19 | 1:10:22 | |
they've been in court many times, I haven't, | 1:10:22 | 1:10:25 | |
and constantly their professional advice would be that, | 1:10:25 | 1:10:29 | |
"You don't need to prove your innocence, | 1:10:29 | 1:10:31 | |
"they've got to prove your guilt, | 1:10:31 | 1:10:33 | |
"so therefore, your best form of defence is by saying nothing | 1:10:33 | 1:10:37 | |
"because there's insufficient evidence | 1:10:37 | 1:10:39 | |
"for you to ever be convicted of this crime." | 1:10:39 | 1:10:42 | |
But then came the bombshell - not a blonde one this time. | 1:10:44 | 1:10:48 | |
Aoife Madden, you are jointly charged with Bashar Al-Issa, | 1:10:50 | 1:10:53 | |
Tariq Hassan, Osama Al Baghdady and Ian Sherwood | 1:10:53 | 1:10:58 | |
with conspiracy to cheat the revenue. | 1:10:58 | 1:11:01 | |
Aoife Madden, do you plead guilty or not guilty? | 1:11:01 | 1:11:05 | |
Guilty, your honour. | 1:11:06 | 1:11:07 | |
Her counsel contacted me about a week before | 1:11:09 | 1:11:11 | |
to say she would be pleading guilty. | 1:11:11 | 1:11:13 | |
I think pretty early on, she would have realised that there was no way | 1:11:13 | 1:11:17 | |
that the budget was of the £20 million that was being portrayed | 1:11:17 | 1:11:21 | |
to the British film industry, the BFI and to HMRC, | 1:11:21 | 1:11:26 | |
so from that point on, she lent herself fully to the conspiracy. | 1:11:26 | 1:11:31 | |
Come on, Tess. Help yourself out. | 1:11:31 | 1:11:34 | |
We've got you linked to the Zafira, it's you on the CCTV footage | 1:11:34 | 1:11:38 | |
and you're the one with the access to all the vehicles. | 1:11:38 | 1:11:41 | |
Why should we assume anyone else had anything to do with it? | 1:11:41 | 1:11:44 | |
Maeve was also arrested and Aoife was very concerned about her. | 1:11:46 | 1:11:52 | |
There were documents that were linked to Maeve. | 1:11:52 | 1:11:55 | |
The difficulty was, it doesn't follow because there were | 1:11:55 | 1:11:58 | |
documents linked to her that they were necessarily produced by her. | 1:11:58 | 1:12:01 | |
I was very conscious, for example, during the trial | 1:12:01 | 1:12:04 | |
that we relied very heavily on evidence on Skype logs, | 1:12:04 | 1:12:07 | |
so people communicating on Skype. | 1:12:07 | 1:12:09 | |
Now, one of the Skype identities, from memory, | 1:12:09 | 1:12:12 | |
was Maeve Madden's Skype identity. It was patent, however, that | 1:12:12 | 1:12:16 | |
that was in fact being used by Bashar AlIssa. | 1:12:16 | 1:12:19 | |
So Maeve features in the evidence | 1:12:19 | 1:12:23 | |
but a decision was made that | 1:12:23 | 1:12:24 | |
there was no reasonable prospect of conviction in relation to Maeve. | 1:12:24 | 1:12:28 | |
So... | 1:12:28 | 1:12:30 | |
If you didn't kill Hill, who did? | 1:12:31 | 1:12:34 | |
Aoife had thrown in the towel. | 1:12:40 | 1:12:42 | |
Maeve was in the clear, but there were still four men in the dock | 1:12:42 | 1:12:46 | |
and a couple more surprises in store. | 1:12:46 | 1:12:50 | |
Three of the remaining defendants decided to refuse to give evidence - | 1:12:50 | 1:12:54 | |
The book-keeper, Tariq Hassan, | 1:12:54 | 1:12:57 | |
the director of AB Productions, Osama Al Baghdady, | 1:12:57 | 1:13:01 | |
and architect Ian Sherwood. | 1:13:01 | 1:13:04 | |
I was embroiled into something, I didn't feel it was necessary | 1:13:04 | 1:13:08 | |
for me to ask questions of what was happening. | 1:13:08 | 1:13:11 | |
I was also then being sent reports, | 1:13:11 | 1:13:13 | |
I was being sent some filming information - again, as a layperson | 1:13:13 | 1:13:17 | |
to the film industry - that looked to me as if a film was being made. | 1:13:17 | 1:13:21 | |
Yes, OK, the question can be put to me, | 1:13:21 | 1:13:24 | |
why didn't I look at the size of the invoices? | 1:13:24 | 1:13:27 | |
But I had no reason to look at them. I wasn't a director of the company, | 1:13:27 | 1:13:31 | |
I was very busy trying to keep my architectural practice afloat. | 1:13:31 | 1:13:37 | |
Mr Sherwood was an architect of some renown in Manchester | 1:13:37 | 1:13:42 | |
and he agreed to have his office used and be a director of a business | 1:13:42 | 1:13:48 | |
that was completely and utterly fraudulent. | 1:13:48 | 1:13:51 | |
Even with Aoife's guilty plea, and all the evidence against him, | 1:13:53 | 1:13:57 | |
Bashar AlIssa might have been in with a chance. | 1:13:57 | 1:13:59 | |
It's notoriously hard for Her Majesty to win fraud cases | 1:14:01 | 1:14:04 | |
because the crime is so complicated. | 1:14:04 | 1:14:06 | |
If Bashar could convince the jury | 1:14:07 | 1:14:10 | |
that A Landscape of Lies was the £19.6 million blockbuster | 1:14:10 | 1:14:13 | |
he'd always intended to make, it might look like | 1:14:13 | 1:14:16 | |
he'd just got a little ahead of himself with his accounts. | 1:14:16 | 1:14:20 | |
Unfortunately for him, no-one wanted to watch his film at court. | 1:14:20 | 1:14:24 | |
They were only interested in what it cost | 1:14:25 | 1:14:28 | |
and he'd asked Paul Knight to handle all the payments. | 1:14:28 | 1:14:31 | |
Paul Knight was very useful to our case, | 1:14:32 | 1:14:35 | |
because it did highlight the fact | 1:14:35 | 1:14:37 | |
that A Landscape of Lives was going to be £19 million, | 1:14:37 | 1:14:41 | |
yet A Landscape of Lies was £60,000, £80,000. | 1:14:41 | 1:14:45 | |
It was a good afternoon for me, | 1:14:45 | 1:14:47 | |
and then to find out that my input, my evidence, | 1:14:47 | 1:14:53 | |
if you like, my testimony, | 1:14:53 | 1:14:55 | |
was a nail in that guy's coffin and not just words | 1:14:55 | 1:14:58 | |
made it even sweeter, to be honest with you, | 1:14:58 | 1:15:01 | |
cos despite what they all got up to, my issues are more with Bashar. | 1:15:01 | 1:15:05 | |
He was the guy that made promises, he was the guy who didn't pay me. | 1:15:05 | 1:15:09 | |
I don't care about the others. | 1:15:09 | 1:15:11 | |
My handshake was with Bashar and he spat on that handshake, | 1:15:11 | 1:15:14 | |
and where I come from, handshakes mean something. | 1:15:14 | 1:15:17 | |
You bring it back to the logic of it, don't you? | 1:15:17 | 1:15:20 | |
Look, if you have a £20 million budget, | 1:15:20 | 1:15:23 | |
£20 million is a lot of money in anybody's world. | 1:15:23 | 1:15:26 | |
If you are, for your first project, going to be making a film | 1:15:26 | 1:15:29 | |
and spending 20 million, Mr Issa, why on earth would you | 1:15:29 | 1:15:33 | |
pick people who had no experience whatsoever in the film industry? | 1:15:33 | 1:15:37 | |
Aoife has some experience as an actress | 1:15:37 | 1:15:40 | |
but most recently she had just done a PGCE at East London University | 1:15:40 | 1:15:45 | |
and was due to become a primary teacher. | 1:15:45 | 1:15:47 | |
This was not a woman with a background in film. | 1:15:47 | 1:15:50 | |
The production company, AB Productions, | 1:15:50 | 1:15:53 | |
who were effectively the film production company going to be | 1:15:53 | 1:15:58 | |
making the claims for film tax credit and doing the work, | 1:15:58 | 1:16:02 | |
were run by a former construction engineer or manager | 1:16:02 | 1:16:07 | |
linked to Issa in Manchester, and an architect. | 1:16:07 | 1:16:12 | |
-Who by their own admissions both said they knew nothing about film. -Nothing about film at all. | 1:16:12 | 1:16:16 | |
So why on earth would you do that? | 1:16:16 | 1:16:19 | |
Other than it gave him control over what was going on. | 1:16:19 | 1:16:23 | |
Bashar always wanted to make films, | 1:16:24 | 1:16:26 | |
but he misunderstood what he could and couldn't do. | 1:16:26 | 1:16:31 | |
I don't see any criminal activity in these people at all. | 1:16:31 | 1:16:36 | |
They were inept. | 1:16:36 | 1:16:38 | |
What they've done can be misconstrued. | 1:16:38 | 1:16:41 | |
The judge threw the book at our unlucky film-makers, | 1:16:46 | 1:16:49 | |
or should I say, film fakers? | 1:16:49 | 1:16:52 | |
Ian Sherwood got three-and-a-half years, | 1:16:52 | 1:16:55 | |
Tariq Hassan and Osama Al Baghdady were given four each. | 1:16:55 | 1:16:59 | |
Aoife was sentenced to four years and eight months, | 1:17:00 | 1:17:03 | |
and Bashar, as usual, came out on top with six-and-a-half years. | 1:17:03 | 1:17:08 | |
I honestly believe he thought he was going to get off. | 1:17:10 | 1:17:13 | |
I think he believes his own lies | 1:17:13 | 1:17:15 | |
to the point where he thought he was untouchable. | 1:17:15 | 1:17:18 | |
I felt Aoife was bemused. | 1:17:18 | 1:17:20 | |
She didn't really understand what was going on. | 1:17:20 | 1:17:23 | |
When she went into the court on the day of sentencing, | 1:17:23 | 1:17:26 | |
she was smiling for the cameras, and when she was given four years | 1:17:26 | 1:17:30 | |
and eight months, she was smiling again, and I was just thinking, | 1:17:30 | 1:17:33 | |
"Do you understand what's just happened to you?" | 1:17:33 | 1:17:36 | |
But she didn't, you know, it was bizarre. | 1:17:36 | 1:17:39 | |
You think back on it, you see all the red flags, | 1:17:39 | 1:17:41 | |
you see all those warning signs, and you were blinded by your own... | 1:17:41 | 1:17:47 | |
by your own need to succeed. | 1:17:47 | 1:17:50 | |
I just wish I'd got some of the money that they did, because... | 1:17:50 | 1:17:55 | |
Yeah, they made a lot more money than I did. | 1:17:55 | 1:17:57 | |
I think it's kind of given me more business smarts. | 1:17:57 | 1:18:00 | |
I'm more inclined to analyse things a bit better in my professional life | 1:18:00 | 1:18:05 | |
and not be so dreamy, you know, | 1:18:05 | 1:18:09 | |
not think that people are just going to write to me | 1:18:09 | 1:18:11 | |
and offer me amazing things. It's just not going to happen! | 1:18:11 | 1:18:14 | |
It hurts because you try so hard, you know, to... | 1:18:14 | 1:18:18 | |
..to make your dreams come true, and then... | 1:18:20 | 1:18:24 | |
then they're smiling in your face and they're laughing at you. | 1:18:24 | 1:18:28 | |
Bashar didn't apologise to anybody | 1:18:28 | 1:18:31 | |
because he didn't feel as though he'd done anything wrong. | 1:18:31 | 1:18:34 | |
He, as an individual, has physically ruined my life | 1:18:34 | 1:18:38 | |
because I built the business that I was involved in on trust. | 1:18:38 | 1:18:44 | |
And clearly, I'm not now in a position of that trust. | 1:18:44 | 1:18:48 | |
One man alone felt he could extract something positive from the situation. | 1:18:48 | 1:18:53 | |
Paul Knight was trying to get the film released as his property | 1:18:53 | 1:18:57 | |
because he claimed that | 1:18:57 | 1:18:58 | |
because Bashar hadn't paid him the balance of the money, he owned it. | 1:18:58 | 1:19:02 | |
When Paul Knight left the court, | 1:19:02 | 1:19:04 | |
he stood on the steps outside and gave an interview to Sky Television. | 1:19:04 | 1:19:09 | |
The upside is, as the last man standing, | 1:19:09 | 1:19:12 | |
the rights to the film is now hopefully all mine | 1:19:12 | 1:19:15 | |
and so now I'll be looking to put it out for distribution | 1:19:15 | 1:19:18 | |
by the end of this year. | 1:19:18 | 1:19:20 | |
It was meant to kick-start me. All it did was kick me in the nuts. | 1:19:20 | 1:19:23 | |
The upside is that any legit producers in the future know that | 1:19:23 | 1:19:30 | |
anything my name is attached to, | 1:19:30 | 1:19:32 | |
the taxman is going to be triple checking every piece of paperwork, | 1:19:32 | 1:19:35 | |
so if they want someone on their board | 1:19:35 | 1:19:37 | |
that's going to make an honest film, | 1:19:37 | 1:19:39 | |
then I've got to be their number one choice. | 1:19:39 | 1:19:43 | |
Landscape of Lies? I'll have to have a look at it soon, yeah. | 1:19:43 | 1:19:47 | |
I haven't seen it yet, so I can't say any judgment on that. | 1:19:47 | 1:19:51 | |
-I'd like to see it, yeah. -You'll like the realism of it. -Yeah. | 1:19:51 | 1:19:57 | |
Is it on release? | 1:19:57 | 1:19:58 | |
-Well, not at the moment cos of the court case. -Oh, right. | 1:19:58 | 1:20:01 | |
-It's not on release cos of the court case. -Oh, I see. | 1:20:01 | 1:20:04 | |
It was a relatively new tax break | 1:20:09 | 1:20:12 | |
and somebody looked at how to attack it. | 1:20:12 | 1:20:15 | |
Bashar AlIssa just happened to be one of the first | 1:20:15 | 1:20:18 | |
and others have followed and also been convicted. | 1:20:18 | 1:20:22 | |
For me, the greatest chutzpah, perhaps, in this whole thing | 1:20:22 | 1:20:26 | |
was to set up this project | 1:20:26 | 1:20:28 | |
to be making a film called Landscape of Lives | 1:20:28 | 1:20:31 | |
and then, post their arrests, to make a film | 1:20:31 | 1:20:34 | |
but to change the title to Landscape of Lies. | 1:20:34 | 1:20:37 | |
Now, I think anybody would have to appreciate there's both chutzpah | 1:20:37 | 1:20:41 | |
and bravado and a finger up, essentially, at the Crown | 1:20:41 | 1:20:46 | |
in something like that. | 1:20:46 | 1:20:48 | |
Ta-dah! That's it. What do you think? | 1:20:55 | 1:20:58 | |
It's been educational, it's been interesting. Please keep on watching | 1:21:05 | 1:21:09 | |
because there's many, many, many more interviews to come | 1:21:09 | 1:21:14 | |
and I will... | 1:21:14 | 1:21:16 | |
I'll leave you there, for you to see what's coming up soon. | 1:21:16 | 1:21:20 | |
The film industry is a weird game in this country. | 1:21:27 | 1:21:30 | |
I call it the film industry - | 1:21:30 | 1:21:32 | |
it's not, you know, it's not an industry in Britain. | 1:21:32 | 1:21:34 | |
It's not a business like it is in America. | 1:21:34 | 1:21:36 | |
Los Angeles is a city that's built to make movies. | 1:21:36 | 1:21:38 | |
London is this weird mix of hobbyists and lunatics. | 1:21:38 | 1:21:41 | |
And that brings me to the end of my story. | 1:21:44 | 1:21:48 | |
Why did I tell it to you? | 1:21:48 | 1:21:50 | |
As a lesson, of course, | 1:21:51 | 1:21:53 | |
about how not to play it if you come to my city. | 1:21:53 | 1:21:56 | |
But also, perhaps, to show you some of the subtler shades | 1:21:56 | 1:22:00 | |
that make up the rainbow of crime. | 1:22:00 | 1:22:02 | |
Of course, the court took the view | 1:22:03 | 1:22:05 | |
that these people were criminals who had planned it all along. | 1:22:05 | 1:22:09 | |
But the word "criminal" implies a certain level of sophistication. | 1:22:11 | 1:22:15 | |
Maybe I've got too much respect for the real deal, | 1:22:17 | 1:22:21 | |
but to me, this lot were nothing but a bunch of chancers. | 1:22:21 | 1:22:26 |