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Quiet, please.

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That's it.

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A fabulous match, a really fabulous match,

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and I believe it's one of the greatest,

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if not THE greatest match, I've ever seen at Wimbledon.

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Wimbledon, the world's greatest tennis tournament,

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and the setting for some of the sport's most unforgettable moments.

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For British tennis fans, it's the green, green grass of home,

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and for two weeks every summer, a national obsession.

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Over the years, we've been on the edge of our seats,

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glued to the television,

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watching legend after legend battle it out shot by shot,

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point by point,

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fist pump by fist pump,

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in a quest for the ultimate victory on Centre Court.

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Today, we're celebrating some of the most ground-breaking

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of those players.

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The champions who broke down boundaries,

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set new levels of excellence...

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He's done it, he really has done it.

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..and, in some cases, shocked us with their antics.

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They made us gasp...

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You cannot be serious!

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..then made us think, then made us gasp again,

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as they fought it out in this most hallowed of sporting venues.

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They are the game changers.

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The early 1970s belonged to two true game changers.

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Billie Jean King and Arthur Ashe.

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Both in their own way were pioneers.

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They were at the top of their game and, with the world watching them,

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had a platform that would allow them to raise awareness

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of long-standing sexual and racial discrimination within their sport

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and, through their sport, within the world at large.

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Billie Jean King was the Queen of Wimbledon.

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She had established the Women's Tennis Association

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and threatened to boycott tournaments

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if women's prize money wasn't the same as men's.

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And if that wasn't enough to make her famous, there were her tantrums.

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She was throwing wobblies on the court long before John McEnroe.

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And tennis traditionalists didn't always approve.

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The game is possibly not quite so attractive today

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with the emphasis on some of the girls, like...

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..Billie Jean King, who charges around the court

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very much like a man,

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rather than the old days when you had somebody like Doris Hart,

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who looked exceptionally graceful on court.

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Yes, I'm not very fond of Billie Jean.

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I think she's too fond of herself.

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She was a very nice young lady the first year she won.

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But the second year wasn't so hot.

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I know we're all out to win, but she really doesn't like losing.

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I think they liked me until I won.

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Then they weren't so enthralled with me.

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But I think most players have said that that's the way it is

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around the world, not just Wimbledon.

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But Wimbledon...that does happen.

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Then I think as you get older, then they appreciate you again,

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cos they can see you're in your twilight years

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and you might not be there much longer.

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You said it was good and you called the score.

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How can you change your mind now?

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'You know, certain days, everyone in the world gets up

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'and they don't feel on top of the world

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'and they have to go to the office at nine o'clock.

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'Sometimes a tennis player has that same feeling,'

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and I can't walk up to the microphone and say,

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"Look, I feel lousy today,

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"will you forgive me that I'm having a little temper tantrum?"

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You know, "I care very much whether I win this match

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"and I hope I don't bother you."

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That's the way you feel when you're out there.

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But you can't do that, can you?

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In 1969, BBC cameras followed Billie Jean

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as she attempted to win her fourth consecutive Wimbledon singles title.

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Things didn't go to plan.

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At least she's performing on her favourite stage, the Centre Court,

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as befits a reigning champion.

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To some people, however, like the ticket touts,

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she's just another tennis player who might do a deal.

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-Anything to sell, Billie?

-No...

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-Going to win this year, or what?

-Am I going to win this year?

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-I don't know.

-I've got a few quid on you.

-I never sell tickets.

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No, I know you don't.

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-So...

-You don't buy them, neither, do you?

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-Must win today.

-Hi.

-You've got to win.

-Thanks.

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Can I have your autograph, please?

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I'm sorry, but I have to prepare, get ready.

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Sorry. I would otherwise.

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No, I'm sorry, I have to practise.

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If I do it for you, then I've got to do it for everybody, right?

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Sorry. Later.

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One point to the championship for Ann Jones.

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Game, set and match.

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3-6, 6-3, 6-2.

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Hold it up, Ann. Hold it up, you big fake.

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You waited long enough.

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The climb to the top takes special qualities

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and gives back its own rewards on the way.

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Only when you've made it, when you are a champion,

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can you appreciate how much more vulnerable you've become to defeat.

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Do victories last a shorter time than defeats?

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Oh, much. Defeats last a lifetime,

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victories only last for a fleeting moment.

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At least for me.

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How long is it going to take you to get over this one?

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I'll never get over it. I mean, any time...

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You could ask me 20 years from now, that's still how I feel about it,

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I'll still get the same painful feeling within myself

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that I have at this moment.

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But that was a rare defeat.

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By the time she retired,

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Billie Jean King had won an astonishing six Wimbledon singles,

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ten women's doubles, and four mixed doubles titles.

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Now on to Arthur Ashe.

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On the one hand, a hard political animal,

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happy to take the lead during a players' strike in 1971.

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No tournament in the world, no tennis event can make anyone play.

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But on the other hand, a deeply sensitive man who, during a match,

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would enter a state of meditation.

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What you are trying to achieve here is to empty your mind.

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..And by two sets to one.

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Arthur Ashe... one game away from the championship.

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You try to put your entire being, mentally and physically,

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on automatic pilot while you're playing tennis.

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The fewer decisions

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you have to consciously make,

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the better.

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Another way to say it is to converge

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your thought processes to such a razor's edge that...

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everything is concentrated on the razor's edge,

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so everything else is blocked out.

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And you forget the score, you forget where you are,

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you forget what your name is.

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But the experience of

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I guess what some people may think of as the inner game,

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that happened so infrequently that I guess there is a mystique about it

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because it didn't happen every day.

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But only one time, albeit a very important time,

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when I actually felt, before playing the match, "I can't lose today,"

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and that was the final with Jimmy Connors at Wimbledon.

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40-15.

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And his conviction was borne out.

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His shock victory over Connors in 1975

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goes down as one of the greatest upsets in Wimbledon history.

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That victory also made Arthur Ashe

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one of the most famous black men on the planet.

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A role model and a significant voice for change.

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I remember reading a...

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..a People magazine, which is a very popular magazine in the US

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which does short features on people,

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that had a big cover story on Elton John.

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The last sentence was...

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he would trade it all for the men's singles title at Wimbledon,

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which I thought was...

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I wanted to call him up and say, "You'd better stay where you are."

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Being world-famous and being black means that, wherever you go,

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whether you like it or not, you're a sort of ambassador,

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a representative of your race.

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Is that a responsibility that you feel?

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Oh, yes.

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I don't like it, but I feel it, and I don't shrug it off.

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Mainly because there does still persist in the world myths about...

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..on athletes in general, that they are all brawn and no brains.

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Specifically black athletes,

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that they have even less brain and more brawn,

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because we tend to do disproportionately well

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in athletics, running, jumping, whatever, boxing.

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And I like to fight the myth.

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And I assume that role heartily.

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There are lots of us, athletes in general,

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and black athletes in particular, who can think as well as run, jump,

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hit tennis balls, dump basketballs, box or whatever.

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Of course, it also means that you have a certain power.

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I mean, because you're famous...

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Only as long as you're still winning.

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If my ranking suddenly dropped to 50...

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I mean, I'd still have certain power, I guess,

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because I once was up near the top, but...

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If you care to visit South Africa or you care to draw attention

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to the apartheid situation...

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-Yes.

-..then you pull a lot of weight.

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Erm...

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I don't think... Yes.

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I wouldn't say a lot of weight.

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I would say weight, yes, but just how much, I really don't know.

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And after my four trips to South Africa,

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I really can't assess how much it has...

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Although, I guess I stick out so much in that situation that...

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..there have been lots of movements started to stop me from going.

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So if they think that much of my clout, then...

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..maybe I am having some influence. But that's...

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Are you conscious in any other way of your colour,

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or has success opened all the doors...

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You're always... Oh, no, you're always conscious of your colour.

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If you're Polish or if you're Jewish

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or if you're Russian or if you're French...

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It's not as immediately obvious as being black.

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You're walking down the street, you don't know what that person is.

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You know definitely what I am. But...

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..you get used to living with that and it's not really a problem...

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..unless sometimes I'm in New York City

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and I want to get a taxi.

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Sometimes they won't stop because they think I'm going to Harlem.

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I don't live in Harlem, but anyway...

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While Billie Jean King and Arthur Ashe

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were breaking new ground in tennis,

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another star was about to start breaking hearts.

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Bjorn Borg first hit Wimbledon in 1973

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and changed things forever by bringing a new Swedish sex appeal

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to the game.

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A teenage sensation,

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his sudden popularity helped to boost TV audiences and prize-money.

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And in 1979, he became the first player

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to earn 1 million in a single season.

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Bjorn Borg is locked in the dressing room,

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unable to walk about even at Hurlingham,

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lest he be mobbed by teenyboppers.

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Excuse me.

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His entrance to play an exhibition game

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is stage-managed like that of a pop star,

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which, of course, is what he is.

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Bjorn Borg is 18, the son of a Stockholm grocer,

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who this year has already won £40,000.

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He plays a rough, unorthodox game,

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playing his opponents as if fighting in a bar-room brawl.

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Borg arrived last year at Wimbledon for the first time

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to scenes of near riot.

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Police have to beat a path for him to every court

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through mobs of girls who want to touch him.

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Borg fits uneasily into the British tennis scene,

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as do the other young champions.

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He makes a lot of money, but pays a high price for his success.

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What do you feel about the teenyboppers

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who come up to you and mob you?

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What do you feel about them?

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For the moment, I don't care about that, because...

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I think it's very good, because if you play your match

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and they are cheering you...

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For me, you know,

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maybe it's very disturbing for the opponent, you know?

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They maybe get mad, you know?

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That's good, I think it's great.

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So you're prepared to use the cheering and the adulation

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-to help you win matches.

-Yeah, for sure.

-Who are your idols?

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The people you admire most?

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For the moment, I don't have any idols.

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But for the first two years, I had Laver like an idol

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when I started to play tennis, but, no, I don't have an idol.

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-Why not?

-I think because, for the first,

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now I've been playing so well, you know, I can beat everyone.

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That's why, I think.

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-You are your own idol, do you think?

-Yeah, why not?

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Is there anybody in the world you'd rather be except you?

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Er... Yes, maybe sometimes I want to be a private person,

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so nobody knows you.

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When I go out, nobody looks at me and things like that.

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That happens sometimes.

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But is there any other tennis player

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or any other public figure you'd like to be except Bjorn Borg?

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-No, I don't think so.

-You like yourself?

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Yeah, I like myself.

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Borgmania culminated in one of Wimbledon's greatest ever finals -

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his 1980 clash with the man who was, in many ways, his polar opposite.

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John McEnroe.

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So, having had seven championship points,

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Borg now has two more.

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That's it.

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Borg.

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But the intense media pressure on Borg eventually became too much.

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In 1983, aged just 26, he announced to the world that he was retiring,

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and then explained his decision to the BBC.

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In the beginning, it was fun, because, you know...

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..it was a new thing, you got very excited.

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But I think by the end of it, it...

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it was a little bit too much.

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I mean, even if you still enjoyed it.

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But to have the pressure, there was no way I could walk outside.

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Was there a moment where you sort of suddenly said to Mariana,

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"Mariana, that's it, I'm finished"?

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How did it happen?

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It happened in November.

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We were practising in Stockholm, I was playing...

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..practising with the Swedish juniors up there.

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And from September to November,

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I'd been trying hard and I've been really forcing myself to go out

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and work for hours and really to see if I enjoy it

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or if I don't enjoy it.

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So just one morning when I woke up,

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before we went to practise,

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I said to Mariana that I'm going to retire from tennis.

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She started to laugh because she thought I was crazy.

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I mean, like I'm joking in the morning.

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She said, "No, no, no."

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I said, "Really, I'm going to retire from tennis, because...

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"now I'm sure that I don't enjoy it any more.

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"I don't have the same motivation."

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Once you announced it and it was out, did you feel good?

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Most like relief. Even when I took the decision, found the decision,

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like I had it, I'm going to retire, it was like a relief for me,

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because when you have this...

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..you think about retirement is such a big step

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and when you have it inside, thinking about it every day,

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"Should I not retire? Should I retire?

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"Is it the right decision?" or whatever.

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But when I did it for myself, it was like a relief.

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And then when it came out even later, there was even more relief,

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because I knew that every single one knew about it.

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You have been one of the greatest players ever,

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which was your ambition, of course.

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So you've given tennis a tremendous amount,

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tennis has given you a tremendous amount.

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Well over £10 million, which is an awful lot of money.

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So what have you got in terms of...

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to show for it, in tangible terms?

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The shop here on the seafront.

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An apartment here on the seafront. An apartment in Long Island.

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A speedboat out there somewhere?

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-Somewhere.

-Is that right?

-Yes, I have a boat, yes.

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Really, a fast one?

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It's pretty fast, yeah, because I like to...

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I enjoy waterskiing quite a lot.

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-Do you?

-Yes.

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It's been a great 10 years, 12 years.

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-No regrets?

-No regrets.

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I mean, I had ten wonderful years,

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and, you know, even if I missed a few things during those ten years,

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I had a lot of fun.

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I enjoyed myself and I love tennis.

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I mean, I had ten great years and I don't really regret anything.

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With Borg gone, it was time for another groundbreaker

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to step into the spotlight.

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Yes, step forward, Boris Becker.

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In 1985, he showed Wimbledon

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and the world what unseeded teenagers are capable of

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by winning the tournament aged just 17.

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He became, and remains, the youngest ever men's singles champion,

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and that victory altered his life forever.

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He's such a familiar face around Wimbledon now

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that it's hard to remember Boris the boy,

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but here he is talking tennis with the late Sir Terry Wogan

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a short time after that first big win.

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Have you found...? Have you found that people are...

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a lot of fans gathering around you now?

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Well, now it's more than before Wimbledon, that's for sure.

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Yes?

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When I'm walking down the street

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and the people are coming to me and want to shake my hand

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or want to talk to me,

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it's quite amazing how many people that is.

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It's not amazing at all.

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Obviously, it's a naive question,

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but how has life changed for you since you won Wimbledon?

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Or do you notice anything?

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Because you're playing tennis most of the time.

0:18:440:18:46

Well, I hope not that I've changed since Wimbledon.

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I think the people have changed to me.

0:18:490:18:52

You haven't changed, you don't think?

0:18:520:18:54

Er... Maybe a little bit, but, you know, it's...

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What little...? What little bit has changed?

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LAUGHTER

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I'm a little bit older now.

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I think you're going to be 18 any minute, aren't you?

0:19:080:19:10

-In 12 days now.

-18.

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You're an old man, Boris, you're over the hill.

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Yes. Then I'm officially a man.

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Officially a man. You can drive a car.

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It's amazing.

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How are you coping with the pressures?

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With the press conferences? With the photographers?

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With people who are now...?

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You had a private life before Wimbledon,

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you've had no private life since then, have you?

0:19:350:19:37

Yeah, at the beginning, it was a little bit difficult for me,

0:19:370:19:40

you know, to understand that now when I'm going on the street,

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people are coming to me or want to talk to me.

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I have to give press conferences.

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When I'm talking, there are, like, 50, 60 journalists

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all over the world there, and they listen to every word I'm saying.

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But now I think I've got used to it,

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and sometimes I even enjoy it a little bit.

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John McEnroe said last week,

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and I know you don't pay any attention to him,

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but he said that if you continue to throw yourself around the court

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the way you do, you will be an old man before you're 21.

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Um...

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I mean, you'll do some damage to yourself.

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-Yes...

-HE KNOCKS ON TABLE

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So far nothing happened to me.

0:20:210:20:22

I hope you don't think that was wood.

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LAUGHTER

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He's just knocked on plastic, then.

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But I'm not diving on a hard court, or not very often.

0:20:300:20:35

No, you're not that foolish.

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No, but I like to dive on grass, for example.

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Yes. Can you think of, like Borg,

0:20:390:20:42

getting fed up of it all after a few years and retiring at 24?

0:20:420:20:47

Well, you know, I just started to play tennis,

0:20:470:20:49

I'm not thinking about retiring now.

0:20:490:20:51

No. No, but you can see it stretching ahead of you,

0:20:510:20:54

tournament after tournament, year after year,

0:20:540:20:57

millions and millions of pounds.

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-Won't you get tired?

-Er...

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I just can't say for the moment.

0:21:040:21:07

Tennis... I even play tennis when I'm on holiday, for example.

0:21:070:21:11

Tennis is for me not only a job, it's also my hobby.

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So I don't think I would quit before I'm...

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I don't know how old.

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But I was wondering how long you would go on playing

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before it becomes a job and less of a hobby, less fun.

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I have no idea.

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What about your social life?

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Have you any time for a social life

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-with the tournaments and going around and playing?

-Er...

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Well, not very much, you know?

0:21:380:21:41

I'm playing a lot of tennis, but...

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..sometimes I'm reading.

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I've started to read now because my coach said it's good for me.

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-Reading?

-Yes.

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Does your coach let you go out with girls?

0:21:520:21:54

Er... Well...

0:21:540:21:56

LAUGHTER

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Er... I... Yes, I do like girls, but my coach...

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he doesn't like it so much.

0:22:030:22:05

Becker's youth wasn't the only thing that made him a game changer.

0:22:050:22:08

Boom-Boom Boris, as he came to be known,

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also had one of the fastest serves ever seen in tennis.

0:22:110:22:14

John McEnroe said...

0:22:140:22:16

IMITATING MCENROE: "No-one has ever hit the ball that hard at me."

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It was the birth of a new style of play - the power game.

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A new generation of graphite rackets

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became the weapon of choice for this new generation of power merchants.

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The appliance of science has made it all possible.

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Racket manufacturers have plundered the materials

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developed for shuttle missions

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to produce their brand of wide-body, power-shaft, biokinetic,

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dynamic-damping, transient-contoured,

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stress-reduced thunder sticks.

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They are truly the explosive product of space-age technology.

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The new graphite-shafted monsters make the old wooden frames

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look like antiques. But tests carried out by Mark Philippoussis,

0:22:540:22:58

the world's fastest server, cast doubt on the theory.

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The graphite shaft, the average serve was faster, but not by much.

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The real reason the game has changed, says Philippoussis,

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is a new brand of player - bigger, stronger and fitter -

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not just a new brand of racket.

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With graphite, obviously, you get a bit more power over it and control,

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but, yeah, I think it is the players.

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I mean, if someone hits the ball extremely well and hard,

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they are going to hit the ball hard no matter what they play with.

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I think it's more the player.

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Guys are, after all, getting bigger and stronger anyway.

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They're training harder than they used to.

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It's gotten more serious in a way,

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so in a way it's good that these guys are better prepared.

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So the last thing you do is need to put some graphite

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or titanium in their hand

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that gives them the ability to hit a ball 130mph.

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You barely can even see the ball, especially at Wimbledon.

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And I think the fans and the players deserve more than that.

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At yesterday's Stella Artois Championship,

0:23:510:23:53

Goran Ivanisevic was so worn down by the Philippoussis serve,

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he asked a ball girl to take the heat for a while.

0:23:560:23:59

Philippoussis, who went on to win the tournament,

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gallantly changed tactics and joined in the longest rally of the match.

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What a lovely moment.

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I suggest the idea of going back to a wood racket

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because I think I'd prefer to see a Pete Sampras

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show more of his versatility,

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which I'm assuming he'd be capable of doing,

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or Agassi or the other top player.

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It wasn't just the rackets that looked different in the '80s.

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Since the very first tournament,

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Wimbledon has been famous for its strict rules on dress and behaviour.

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Those rules have often been tested over the years,

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but never quite as much as they were being tested now.

0:24:340:24:38

It seems strange to see you without a headband.

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Did you throw the last one away or something?

0:24:400:24:42

No. Well, that quite often happens, actually.

0:24:420:24:44

Not so much in London here, but at home.

0:24:440:24:47

-Yes.

-You know, I walked down the street, for instance,

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and people really don't have any idea who I am.

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But then somebody says, "Oh, there goes Pat Cash."

0:24:540:24:57

"Oh, I didn't recognise him, he hasn't got his headband on."

0:24:570:24:59

-That's right.

-People come up to me and say,

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"Will you put this over your head?" You know?

0:25:010:25:03

Like a headband, so they can recognise me.

0:25:030:25:05

Well, it is your signature.

0:25:050:25:07

How did it grow up that you threw the headband to the fans?

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How did that happen?

0:25:100:25:11

Well, it really just happened this year at Wimbledon.

0:25:110:25:14

My second round match, where I was just so happy to win the match,

0:25:140:25:17

it was a very tight match against Russell Simpson, from New Zealand,

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and I was pretty nervous when I went on there.

0:25:200:25:22

It was a close match and I was just very happy after the match.

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Somebody said, "Can I have your headband?"

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And somebody on the other side said, "Yes, give me one, too."

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So I ended up passing a lot of headbands and sweatbands around.

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Pat Cash wasn't the only player whose behaviour raised eyebrows.

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In fact, he looked positively restrained compared to some.

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Andre Agassi's colour choices were disturbing enough,

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but he would go on to change perceptions of tennis

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in a far more serious way after his retirement.

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In his autobiography, he admitted to taking drugs,

0:25:500:25:53

revealing that he'd used crystal meth

0:25:530:25:55

and failed a doping test in 1997.

0:25:550:25:58

He confessed that he'd also lied to avoid a ban,

0:25:580:26:01

blaming a contaminated drink for the drug's presence in his body,

0:26:010:26:04

which he talks about here with the BBC's Stephen Sackur.

0:26:040:26:08

Perhaps the most difficult thing in your professional life,

0:26:080:26:10

which was your taking of illegal drugs.

0:26:100:26:13

-Yeah.

-Something which has attracted a huge amount of comment

0:26:130:26:17

and criticism from people inside tennis.

0:26:170:26:21

Are you disappointed with the reaction of,

0:26:210:26:25

for example, Martina Navratilova,

0:26:250:26:27

who says that she really resents the fact that you took drugs?

0:26:270:26:32

She believes you should have been suspended,

0:26:320:26:34

she points out that you beat other professionals

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at a time when, actually, you should have been suspended.

0:26:360:26:38

And she's been very harsh about it.

0:26:380:26:40

Well, no question.

0:26:400:26:41

My first disappointment is that I ever took drugs

0:26:410:26:45

in the first place,

0:26:450:26:47

that I ever found myself at that stage in my life.

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But as I look at how that all played out, you know,

0:26:490:26:52

I have to ask one question, which is, have you really read the book?

0:26:520:26:55

Have you seen where this fit in my life?

0:26:550:26:58

Why, what the drug was?

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Not performance enhancing,

0:27:000:27:02

but a recreational, destructional drug.

0:27:020:27:04

-Crystal meth.

-Crystal meth is a term they use.

0:27:040:27:07

There's a technical name for it as well.

0:27:070:27:10

And what happened during that time I actually took the drug,

0:27:100:27:13

I mean, I didn't win anything.

0:27:130:27:15

If you actually went to the rule book at the time,

0:27:150:27:18

it would have been a three-month suspension

0:27:180:27:20

during a time when I wasn't even playing tennis.

0:27:200:27:23

I suppose one point, specific point,

0:27:230:27:26

about the drugs issue

0:27:260:27:28

is that you wrote a fairly lame, it has to be said, excuse

0:27:280:27:33

to the ATP Tour as to how the substance

0:27:330:27:35

had been found in your body.

0:27:350:27:37

And rather than check it out or really challenge you,

0:27:370:27:40

they accepted it, and you were not suspended.

0:27:400:27:43

And it looks as though you were not suspended -

0:27:430:27:45

and this obviously goes back to 1997 -

0:27:450:27:47

it looks as though you were not suspended because you were still,

0:27:470:27:50

despite poor form, a big name in tennis.

0:27:500:27:52

You were, in a sense, too big to bring down.

0:27:520:27:56

Do you think we as outsiders can assume

0:27:560:27:59

that that philosophy may still be there in professional tennis,

0:27:590:28:03

they don't want to know if some star names may be dabbling in drugs?

0:28:030:28:06

I think the cynicism is good

0:28:060:28:08

cos it makes you hold things up to the light.

0:28:080:28:10

But I do think you have to look at it in its full context,

0:28:100:28:12

and this is pre-age of steroids in sports

0:28:120:28:15

and this is that time when tennis was actually leading

0:28:150:28:19

in their own desire to monitor the habits,

0:28:190:28:22

the usage of illegal or recreational drugs for their sport.

0:28:220:28:26

We had a system in place, we oversaw the system in place,

0:28:260:28:29

and maybe as a result of my case, or others...

0:28:290:28:33

I don't know about the business

0:28:330:28:34

of how everything has gone down over that particular...

0:28:340:28:37

But that's really what I'm asking.

0:28:370:28:38

Do you think there are still stars who are as so big

0:28:380:28:40

that the ATP Tour doesn't want to know?

0:28:400:28:43

Well, this is the point I'm getting at,

0:28:430:28:44

which is, as a result of that, we've now gone to a third party governance

0:28:440:28:49

over our drug oversight.

0:28:490:28:52

So we now use Wada, which is recognised as an independent party.

0:28:520:28:57

The anti-doping agency.

0:28:570:28:58

Yes. ATP has no say so now in any results that happen.

0:28:580:29:03

And that's been for a long time.

0:29:030:29:04

I consider our sport to be very, very clean,

0:29:040:29:07

and I consider us to be on the leading edge of that accountability.

0:29:070:29:11

Andre Agassi was, of course, one of a long, long line

0:29:110:29:14

of overseas Wimbledon champions.

0:29:140:29:16

McEnroe, Connors, Ashe, King, Evert, all Americans.

0:29:160:29:21

Borg, Swedish. Becker, German. Cash, Australian.

0:29:210:29:24

We Brits were forever being reminded

0:29:240:29:26

that our last singles champion was Virginia Wade in 1977.

0:29:260:29:31

As for a men's champion,

0:29:310:29:32

that was the legendary Fred Perry about 250 years before that.

0:29:320:29:36

Or at least that's how long it felt.

0:29:360:29:38

We needed something to give, someone to really shout for.

0:29:380:29:42

We needed hope. We needed Tim Henman.

0:29:420:29:45

OK, so Tiger Tim never quite managed to pull off the big one,

0:29:450:29:48

but he did give us a lot of excitement,

0:29:480:29:50

altered our expectations,

0:29:500:29:52

and he was the closest thing we've had to a contender

0:29:520:29:54

since Slade had been number one in the charts.

0:29:540:29:56

# So, cum on, feel the noize

0:29:560:30:01

# Girls, grab the boys... #

0:30:010:30:04

Why didn't it quite happen for him?

0:30:040:30:06

The all too common accusation was that Tim was too TIM-id.

0:30:060:30:10

A surprisingly and totally justifiably feisty Henman

0:30:100:30:13

defends himself here against those wrongly but widely-held opinions.

0:30:130:30:17

Pete Sampras, a friend and, of course, a former world number one,

0:30:170:30:21

Wimbledon champion goodness knows how many times,

0:30:210:30:23

he has recently assessed you like this.

0:30:230:30:25

Is Tim the best player in the world? No. Is he a truly great player?

0:30:250:30:28

No. But he's an extremely talented player,

0:30:280:30:31

and if things fall into place, it can happen.

0:30:310:30:34

You still have that drive and ambition?

0:30:340:30:36

-Absolutely.

-Yes.

-As I said to you, why wouldn't I?

0:30:360:30:40

I've obviously got a pretty solid record at Wimbledon

0:30:400:30:44

over the years and, you know, the last 12 months,

0:30:440:30:48

2004 was my best year.

0:30:480:30:50

Absolutely, you know, you need some things to fall into place

0:30:500:30:54

and you need to play well at the right time

0:30:540:30:57

and you probably need a little bit of luck,

0:30:570:31:00

but that's certainly the aim.

0:31:000:31:02

But maybe it's not just luck,

0:31:020:31:04

and, of course, luck plays its part in every sport.

0:31:040:31:06

Do you sense that there's something maybe lacking mentally?

0:31:060:31:10

Because that appears to be the perception.

0:31:100:31:12

-Whose perception?

-The perception, for example,

0:31:120:31:15

of a sports psychologist called John Syer.

0:31:150:31:19

-Have I ever met him?

-I don't know.

-No.

0:31:190:31:21

But he doesn't have to meet you, maybe, to do an analysis.

0:31:210:31:24

-I think he does.

-Does he?

0:31:240:31:26

Yeah, I think so.

0:31:260:31:27

Maybe he just makes his analysis from television

0:31:270:31:29

and seeing your body language on television.

0:31:290:31:31

-You may say that's a big distance.

-I think it is, yeah.

0:31:310:31:34

He says that you've clearly got all the technical skills,

0:31:340:31:36

-you're clearly fit.

-I wouldn't agree with that.

0:31:360:31:38

-Oh, really?

-No, I think I could improve my technical skills.

0:31:380:31:41

-In what way?

-But it's like... Why is a sports psychologist

0:31:410:31:44

talking about my tennis technical skills?

0:31:440:31:46

Well, let me get to the point, because you interrupted it.

0:31:460:31:48

The point is that if you assume that he does have the technical skills -

0:31:480:31:51

I know you deny that - and he's looking after himself,

0:31:510:31:54

-there must be a failure somewhere mentally.

-Right.

0:31:540:31:57

I suppose my question to you is, after all that preamble,

0:31:570:32:00

my question to you is, psychologically,

0:32:000:32:03

are you properly prepared?

0:32:030:32:04

Absolutely.

0:32:040:32:05

Maybe people would actually like you to produce the kind of performance

0:32:050:32:09

that you put in in Hamburg recently

0:32:090:32:11

when you got very shirty about a dodgy line call.

0:32:110:32:13

They'd like you to be more like McEnroe, more fiery, more...

0:32:130:32:16

But, again, you can't... But, again, that's...

0:32:160:32:19

I still feel it's most important that I concern myself

0:32:190:32:23

with what I think is right. And I could...

0:32:230:32:25

But you're saying, in a sense, there is no other way.

0:32:270:32:29

I could talk to you about a hundred quotes where people say,

0:32:290:32:32

"Oh, you know, he's trying to get fired up on the court,

0:32:320:32:35

"and that's not him."

0:32:350:32:36

And then I could show you a hundred quotes where people say,

0:32:360:32:39

"Oh, he's too passive, he needs to get fired up on the court."

0:32:390:32:42

-OK.

-And at the end of the day,

0:32:420:32:45

as I said, I'm not the best player there's ever been

0:32:450:32:49

by any stretch of the imagination, but, you know, at some stage,

0:32:490:32:53

I've been the fourth best player on the planet,

0:32:530:32:56

and I've won, you know, numerous tournaments worldwide.

0:32:560:33:00

So I've got to be half decent at what I do.

0:33:000:33:03

-Sure.

-And when it comes back to Wimbledon

0:33:030:33:05

and we talk about some of the matches that I've played,

0:33:050:33:09

you know, we talk about your quote from the psychologist.

0:33:090:33:12

How about I wasn't good enough on the day?

0:33:120:33:15

How about Pete Sampras was better than me on the day?

0:33:150:33:18

I think that's where people sometimes shy away from that.

0:33:180:33:21

I'm honest enough to sit there and say,

0:33:210:33:23

"Yeah, when I lost to him in the two semis, he was better than me.

0:33:230:33:27

"I need to improve."

0:33:270:33:28

Tim gave us a glorious decade of grace and hope,

0:33:280:33:32

but our next game changer actually got his name

0:33:320:33:35

on the famous gold trophy.

0:33:350:33:36

Andy Murray, rewriting the story of Britain's Wimbledon record.

0:33:360:33:40

With him in the running,

0:33:400:33:42

victory became and remains a real possibility.

0:33:420:33:45

What makes Murray different from the rest?

0:33:450:33:48

Well, one possibility may have been that other British players

0:33:480:33:50

were not as fit and didn't train enough,

0:33:500:33:53

or at least that was a controversial opinion expressed

0:33:530:33:56

the week before this chat with Jonathan Ross.

0:33:560:33:59

OK, Wimbledon's looming.

0:33:590:34:00

-Yes.

-Of course. And this is the time when British players,

0:34:000:34:02

I guess they dread it, to an extent,

0:34:020:34:04

because you're the British number one,

0:34:040:34:06

all eyes are going to be on you now. Yes, and you know it.

0:34:060:34:08

Are you prepared for... what do they call it?

0:34:080:34:10

Murraymania? Andymonium? What do they call it? It's...

0:34:100:34:13

-I think Murraymania is the name.

-Murraymania.

-Yeah.

0:34:130:34:16

How do you deal with that? Do you gird your loins?

0:34:160:34:19

-Do you welcome it? Does it help in any way?

-Er...

0:34:190:34:21

I mean, we do get awesome support during the tournament.

0:34:210:34:25

When we're on the court, as well,

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it's different to any of the other tournaments we play,

0:34:260:34:28

but it's more the build-up that's harder before you get on the court.

0:34:280:34:31

I was there when you played, I think, the first time at Wimbledon.

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I was in the audience. I had some terrible seats,

0:34:340:34:36

right at the back somewhere. And you played Nalbandian.

0:34:360:34:38

-Yes.

-Yes, and this was about, what, three years ago?

0:34:380:34:41

-Yeah, 2005.

-OK, it was a great match, of course.

0:34:410:34:44

Fabulous match. One of the exciting things for everyone in the crowd,

0:34:440:34:47

as well, but I guess for you, as well, if you were aware,

0:34:470:34:49

-was Sean Connery was there.

-Yes.

0:34:490:34:51

Now, did you know he was going to be there in advance?

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Was he there to support a fellow Scot,

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or did he just happen to be there that day?

0:34:540:34:56

Yeah, I guess he likes tennis, but it was a bit strange for me,

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cos pretty much the day after my match,

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he gave me a call.

0:35:030:35:04

So to get a call from James Bond

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when you're playing Wimbledon for the first time...

0:35:060:35:08

That's quite a week in your life.

0:35:080:35:10

So you played Wimbledon for the first time

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and James Bond phoned you up.

0:35:120:35:13

LAUGHTER

0:35:130:35:15

-That was pretty...

-What did he say to you when he called?

0:35:150:35:17

He was just like, "It's great, keep it going."

0:35:170:35:19

He used to always say to me,

0:35:190:35:21

"Don't let the press affect you, "don't let the press affect you."

0:35:210:35:23

-Is it, like...

-IMITATING CONNERY:

-"You must not let

0:35:230:35:26

-"the press affect you"?

-Yeah, exactly like that.

0:35:260:35:29

"I saw you playing the other day.

0:35:290:35:31

"I thought it was very good."

0:35:330:35:35

-I ran out of the voice then.

-That was exactly right.

0:35:350:35:38

You are the number one ranked player,

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and I have to be careful how I say that,

0:35:410:35:43

-here in the United Kingdom.

-Yes.

-Number one.

0:35:430:35:47

Put that in context for us.

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What does that mean in terms of global scale?

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Where are you in the world if you're the number one Brit,

0:35:500:35:52

and what does that mean for you personally?

0:35:520:35:54

Yeah, I'm ranked 11th in the world just now.

0:35:540:35:56

Wow. Well, congratulations. That's pretty good, isn't it?

0:35:560:35:59

-Thank you.

-APPLAUSE

0:35:590:36:00

11 in the world. Just 21.

0:36:000:36:03

Yeah, I mean, the British ranking's not really that important.

0:36:030:36:07

We don't have too many players just now, so it's more...

0:36:070:36:10

The world rankings are a bit more important.

0:36:100:36:12

Why is it we don't have too many players right now?

0:36:120:36:14

Because there seems to be a lot of players come out of Russia,

0:36:140:36:17

and obviously Russia is a vast continent,

0:36:170:36:18

but, you know, there's a lot of people from there

0:36:180:36:21

and they go to Miami and train them up.

0:36:210:36:22

They come out of there and they seem to be really good.

0:36:220:36:24

The Swiss seem to have quite a few.

0:36:240:36:26

Why is it that, so far, we haven't managed to produce

0:36:260:36:28

the people in the top level?

0:36:280:36:30

I've absolutely no idea.

0:36:300:36:31

Well, that's not what you said in the papers this week, sunshine.

0:36:310:36:34

LAUGHTER

0:36:340:36:36

Oh, someone's changed their tune(!)

0:36:400:36:43

It's got a bit hot in the old kitchen.

0:36:430:36:45

No, I mean, yeah, it's difficult.

0:36:460:36:48

I mean, the Russians, obviously,

0:36:480:36:49

have got an unbelievable work ethic and stuff.

0:36:490:36:52

Do you think that's what it is? Is it just wanting it more?

0:36:520:36:55

Yeah, I guess so. I moved to Spain when I was 15 to go and train there

0:36:550:36:58

because I felt like it was more competitive practice,

0:36:580:37:01

it was harder work and a better environment for me to train in,

0:37:010:37:05

but I don't know exactly what the problem is.

0:37:050:37:08

Let me ask you about your family,

0:37:080:37:09

-because your mum was a tennis coach, is that right?

-Yeah, she still is.

0:37:090:37:12

She still is. And your brother is also a gifted tennis player.

0:37:120:37:15

-Yep.

-He's slightly older than you, is that right?

0:37:150:37:18

-15 months.

-What's the competition like between the two of you?

0:37:180:37:21

When you were playing against each other as youngsters, how was that?

0:37:210:37:24

When did you start beating him? When did you start outstripping him?

0:37:240:37:27

It got pretty ugly. I've actually got a dodgy nail.

0:37:270:37:30

He punched me once after I won against him.

0:37:300:37:33

Hold on, hold on. That is hardly a big injury, is it?

0:37:330:37:36

LAUGHTER

0:37:360:37:37

Saying I have a dodgy nail on my left hand...

0:37:370:37:40

I've got a dodgy nail

0:37:400:37:41

from shutting it in the bloody toilet door last week.

0:37:410:37:44

-It's not nice, is it?

-No, it's not good.

0:37:440:37:46

Anyway, I apologise.

0:37:460:37:48

So you would actually get physical with each other?

0:37:480:37:50

Yeah. I mean, when we were younger, yeah.

0:37:500:37:53

When we were 14, I started to improve much more,

0:37:530:37:55

and Jamie obviously only plays doubles now.

0:37:550:37:58

Let's talk about Tim Henman a little bit,

0:37:580:38:00

because I know he's a friend of yours.

0:38:000:38:01

-Yep.

-A great player.

0:38:010:38:03

I know he's retired from the game at that level now,

0:38:030:38:05

but he was a great player while he was there

0:38:050:38:07

-and he got that close to winning Wimbledon, didn't he?

-He did, yeah.

0:38:070:38:09

Cos I know, it's in your book, which I've been reading...

0:38:090:38:12

Hitting Back is your book. You kind of didn't write it yourself.

0:38:120:38:15

I guess you spoke to someone and it comes out of that.

0:38:150:38:17

You're 21, you won't have time to write a proper book.

0:38:170:38:20

No, and I'm not bright enough.

0:38:200:38:21

You don't have time to read a magazine.

0:38:210:38:23

Anyway, Hitting Back is the book.

0:38:230:38:25

I've been enjoying reading it, cos I'm a tennis fan anyway,

0:38:250:38:27

but you talk about Henman in there,

0:38:270:38:29

you talk about the amount of advice he's given you.

0:38:290:38:31

It must be nice to have someone

0:38:310:38:32

who has essentially been through what you are going through

0:38:320:38:35

and about to go through, I guess.

0:38:350:38:36

Yeah, I mean, he's been great since pretty much when I went on the tour.

0:38:360:38:40

I didn't know any of the players at all. I was obviously 18.

0:38:400:38:43

Tim, yeah, he obviously gave me a lot of advice,

0:38:430:38:45

I practised with him a lot, he paid for a few of my dinners and stuff,

0:38:450:38:49

so that was good.

0:38:490:38:50

How is it when you then go on to play someone like that

0:38:500:38:53

who's been a bit of a mentor, perhaps, been a friend,

0:38:530:38:55

and then you have to play them professionally?

0:38:550:38:57

Of course, I'm imagining you want to stuff them as much as possible.

0:38:570:39:00

How do you get yourself in the different mind-set

0:39:000:39:02

to stop seeing them as a friend and...?

0:39:020:39:04

Yeah, that's probably the toughest part.

0:39:040:39:06

It's only really been when I played against him I found it difficult.

0:39:060:39:09

I've played him four times on the tour, but, yeah, that's...

0:39:090:39:11

It's really tough, there's not too much you can do.

0:39:110:39:14

You've just got to try and focus on winning the match,

0:39:140:39:16

but it's a bit uncomfortable at the end of the match

0:39:160:39:18

when you've got to shake hands and say, "Tough luck,"

0:39:180:39:20

-when you don't really mean that.

-Yeah.

0:39:200:39:22

We end with what is perhaps one of the biggest game changers

0:39:260:39:29

in the history of the world's favourite grass court tournament.

0:39:290:39:32

But it has absolutely no personality at all.

0:39:320:39:36

Wimbledon fortnight was always a hostage

0:39:360:39:39

to the great British summer

0:39:390:39:40

and, over the years, became synonymous

0:39:400:39:43

with the phrase "wash-out".

0:39:430:39:44

I've known nothing like it at all, ever.

0:39:440:39:47

I've asked various people like Fred Perry,

0:39:470:39:49

and he can't remember anything like this.

0:39:490:39:52

I think this must be the worst one on record.

0:39:520:39:55

I can't remember seeing anything...

0:39:550:39:57

anything as strong as this at Wimbledon.

0:39:570:40:00

I feel sympathy for the people braving it there

0:40:000:40:02

under their umbrellas.

0:40:020:40:05

They are taking a battering.

0:40:050:40:06

Ladies and gentlemen, play is suspended.

0:40:080:40:11

Along with the rain,

0:40:110:40:12

the carefully planned Wimbledon schedule has been washed away,

0:40:120:40:16

meaning that some top players have been frustrated,

0:40:160:40:19

spending more time in the locker room than on the court.

0:40:190:40:23

It's been a day of frustration for Tim Henman

0:40:240:40:26

and millions of British tennis fans.

0:40:260:40:28

Rain interrupted much of his crucial semifinal clash

0:40:280:40:32

with Goran Ivanisevic.

0:40:320:40:33

Just 51 minutes' play were possible before the rain returned,

0:40:330:40:36

putting the match back again till tomorrow,

0:40:360:40:39

with a decision on when to play the final left to the winner.

0:40:390:40:42

Wimbledon could have a serious problem

0:40:420:40:44

concluding the championships tomorrow.

0:40:440:40:46

And then, in 2009, finally, everything changed.

0:40:460:40:52

On Centre Court, at least.

0:40:520:40:53

And, arguably, nothing has had a greater impact on play

0:40:530:40:57

over all the years at the All England Club.

0:40:570:41:01

The sight of hundreds of tennis fans huddled under umbrellas in the rain

0:41:010:41:04

on Centre Court will now be a thing of the past,

0:41:040:41:07

and that's because Centre Court finally has a new retractable roof.

0:41:070:41:10

They have decided now to close the roof.

0:41:230:41:26

It takes eight to ten minutes to close.

0:41:380:41:41

So, there we go.

0:42:380:42:40

We've had women's rights, civil rights, fashion wrongs,

0:42:400:42:43

boom-boom, swoon swoon,

0:42:430:42:46

a so-nearly man, a very-real-y man,

0:42:460:42:48

and what turned out to be a very good plan, man.

0:42:480:42:52

It's still the ivy-covered, flower-drenched,

0:42:520:42:54

impeccably mown corner of SW19 we've loved forever,

0:42:540:42:59

but thanks to all these game changers,

0:42:590:43:01

Wimbledon is also a whole new ballgame.

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