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This is the story of a dream. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
The dream of giving the very best education to Britain's brightest children, | 0:00:03 | 0:00:08 | |
however humble their background. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
The grammar schools were set up to deliver this dream, | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
and in the 20th century they made it come true for many children and their parents. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:19 | |
It was enormously liberating from the really rather narrow horizons that had inhibited my parents' lives. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:27 | |
They wanted me to move out of that orbit and I certainly did, | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
and I went zooming into a much wider world where things became possible. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
But the success of the best pupils was in stark contrast to the fate of the majority of children. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:41 | |
How to create a fair schools system | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
that would give all children their best chance in life became a burning issue. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:49 | |
It is still at the heart of the debate about education today. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
I was called to the headmaster's office. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
He said I had more or less disgraced the school | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
because the examiner had looked at my paper - just looked at it, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:05 | |
didn't read it - and said "This boy will not pass!" | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
For the grammar schools, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
the key to success lay in the pursuit of excellence. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
To achieve this, a high premium was put on strict discipline | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
and a competitive spirit. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
But not everyone embraced this demanding regime. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
I was just an average lad who doesn't take to discipline all that easily, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:30 | |
and I had rotten reports until I was 16. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
The grammar schools provided five consecutive prime ministers, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
as well as many high fliers in industry, science and the arts. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:44 | |
Yet, at the height of their power, | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
the grammar schools were phased out by the very people who had benefited from them most. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:51 | |
This two-part series uses revealing testimony to tell the untold story of the grammar school. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:58 | |
Britain's oldest grammar schools date back to the 14th century. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:16 | |
Founded by wealthy benefactors, | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
one of their aims was to provide free places for poor children. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:23 | |
In the early 20th century, funding from the state helped them provide a quarter of their places for free. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:29 | |
This was the only secondary education available for working-class children. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:36 | |
In the 1920s, winning a grammar school place | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
depended on passing a scholarship exam when children were 11. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
Some elementary schools in working-class areas tried to inspire their pupils to aim high, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:51 | |
like the one Charles Chilton went to in London near King's Cross. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:56 | |
Our headmaster, he rather thought that our Church of England elementary school | 0:02:56 | 0:03:01 | |
was really another Eton, or Harrow or something, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
because he wanted us to behave in that way. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
We had a motto, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:09 | |
and our motto was "play the game". | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
Course, playing the game to us meant something quite different. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
Playing the game in the west, you know, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
is quite different from playing the game that he had. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
But anyway we had this song, I can still remember, it was: | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
# Play the game, play the game, all true Britons do the same | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
# Win your goal by honest work, never sham and never shirk | 0:03:31 | 0:03:37 | |
# Play the game, play the game, play the game! | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
But for the children of the generation who fought in the First World War, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
the heavy loss of life cast a long shadow over their educational prospects. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:51 | |
Charles's father was killed | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
and his mother died in abject poverty shortly afterwards. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
The orphaned Charles would be brought up by his grandmother. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
Nevertheless, at school from a young age, his gift for writing shone through. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:07 | |
We all had to write essays and the subject of this essay was hygiene in the home. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:13 | |
We lived in a slummy place, about eight of us in three rooms, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
you know, and really I wouldn't know much about hygiene in the home. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:26 | |
But nonetheless I won this essay competition for hygiene in the home! | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
In the aftermath of the war, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
the trauma of loss touched almost every family in the country, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
and for some, the grammar schools appeared as an escape from their problems. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:42 | |
Mabel McCoy's shell-shocked father could only cope with the post-war world | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
by losing himself in the Beethoven piano sonatas he loved, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:51 | |
but he tried to inspire Mabel with visions of a different world. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:56 | |
When he came back from the war, | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
he used to get on the piano and sit for hours. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:04 | |
My father was depressed a lot of the time because of the war. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
We used to go on walks together, and he was always very helpful to me | 0:05:11 | 0:05:19 | |
in pointing out flowers and natural things and birds, particularly. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:25 | |
I can remember him taking me to an area near Rochdale | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
and we were lying on the hillside, watching the skylarks. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:34 | |
Helped by her father, Mabel was top of the class almost every year in the run-up to her scholarship exam. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:44 | |
I'm very pleased about it because I loved school, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
and I wanted to get on particularly. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
It says here that I had, er, reading 48 out of 50, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:57 | |
dictation 100 out of 100, | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
composition 98 out of 100, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
er, and arithmetic 100 out of 100! | 0:06:05 | 0:06:10 | |
During the Depression years of the 1920s and 30s, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
poverty and unemployment added to the disadvantages endured by many working-class families. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:19 | |
Jim Humphries' father escaped the war as he worked as a miner, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
but he was later injured and invalided in a pit accident. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
Unable to walk, he taught Jim skills to help the family survive, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:34 | |
skills that would also prove valuable at school. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
My father had taught me a lot about mental arithmetic. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
From as long as I could remember, I was doing shopping for the family. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
My father couldn't walk, my mother was at work. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
The main shopping was on a Friday at the Co-op, which I did. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:55 | |
And the assistant, as he was getting them out, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
I'd be adding it up with him because my mental arithmetic came in really good | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
because I knew the price of everything. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
With the encouragement of his father, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
Jim did well at his local elementary school in Burslem in Staffordshire. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
I was the top boy in my class. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
On one occasion, the teacher asked if anybody could say the alphabet backwards. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:21 | |
I couldn't but I told this to my father when I got home, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
and he said, "I'll teach you to say the alphabet backwards." | 0:07:24 | 0:07:29 | |
It was a little song that he knew, I can't remember the song | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
but it started off ZYXWV UTS RQP | 0:07:33 | 0:07:38 | |
ONLMK JIHGF EDCBA. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
Unfortunately they never asked that question again! | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
To help avoid a life of hardship, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
many self-taught parents were desperate for their children | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
to enjoy a better education than they had had. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
Ella Wright's dad missed out on a grammar school education, | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
but after leaving the Army at the end of the First World War, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
he educated himself whilst working as a shoemaker in Northumberland. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
My father had been deprived of a good career | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
but he was a very learned man. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
He knew an enormous number of words, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
an enormous amount of facts, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
but when I asked him something he always said, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
"See if you can find it out for yourself from those books we have here." | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
Ella's mother won a scholarship to a grammar school | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
before the First World War and became a supply teacher. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
She had high ambitions for Ella. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
My mother was the disciplinarian behind it, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
making it quite clear that if I passed the 11 plus | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
and went to the grammar school, then the world was my oyster. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
But if I didn't pass the grammar school and I didn't go to the grammar school, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:50 | |
then my future could be pretty dodgy. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
Ella still remains haunted by the questions she got wrong. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
But to her great relief, she managed to pass in 1936. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
I have no recollection of which questions I got right, | 0:09:03 | 0:09:09 | |
but I have forever memories of the ones I got wrong, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:14 | |
and in all innocence, "All old men have...?" | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
And Mum said, "What did you put?" | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
And I said bald heads because all the old men I knew had. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
She said, "Oh!" And I was really beyond the pale. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
And the answer was ribs. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
Growing up in the suburbs of Manchester, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
Geoffrey Stone's parents were well aware of the presence | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
of one of the most famous and high achieving schools in the country, Manchester Grammar School. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:40 | |
I felt all the time that I was given total support | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
but I was never bribed. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
I never felt there was excessive expectations of me. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
The situation was do your best | 0:09:51 | 0:09:52 | |
and we're proud of whatever you do. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
In 1929, Geoffrey passed the fiercely competitive scholarship exam | 0:09:55 | 0:10:01 | |
and began at Manchester Grammar. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
My father took me. The whole thing was a bit intimidating. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
It's a big jump from primary to secondary but it made it all the more so | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
with going into the middle of town and going to somewhere which obviously knew it had some prestige | 0:10:12 | 0:10:19 | |
and was proud of itself, and, er, was rather grand. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
MGS was an example of a new 20th-century development. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:29 | |
It was one of around 200 centuries-old grammar schools | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
that from the 1900 onwards received a direct grant from the government, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
which guaranteed that a quarter of their 1,200 places | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
were given free to talented scholarship children. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
The school had been founded in 1515 by Hugh Oldham, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
the Bishop of Exeter, and there was a song that began "Hugh of the owl". | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
"Hugh of the owl was a scholar bold, born with the gift to rise. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
"His mitre sat well on his crown when old, for his motto was 'Dare to be wise.'" | 0:10:59 | 0:11:04 | |
There's the motto - Sapere Aude. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
And that is worth bearing in mind | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
because it's one of the great things that MGS taught me. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
Think for yourself, be independent, don't follow the crowd, | 0:11:13 | 0:11:20 | |
dare to have your own opinion. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
However, academic brilliance didn't always guarantee a place at the best grammar school. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:29 | |
Mabel McCoy did exceptionally well in her scholarship exam | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
and was invited for an interview at the prestigious Manchester High School for girls, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:38 | |
but there was one hurdle even she couldn't overcome. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
When we went to see the headmistress, she was charming, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
she was very, very good, but then of course you have to face the reality. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:51 | |
The reality being that I had no way of paying for transport to get to the school. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:58 | |
It would have meant either a tram or a bus, and then a second bus. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:04 | |
And the cost, because my father was out of work, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
the cost was impossible to pay for any extra money for transport. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:17 | |
But on top of that, because it was, you know, an upmarket school, | 0:12:17 | 0:12:24 | |
they had other extras that also had to be paid for. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:29 | |
But for Charles Chilton, a talented writer of essays, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
the marking of the crucial scholarship exam proved to be his downfall. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
One of the things we had to do was write an essay, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
and I was carried away with it. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
Writing was something I really liked doing. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
And I handed all my papers in and they were checked and so forth, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:55 | |
and a few days later I was called down to the headmaster's study, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
and he said I had more or less disgraced the school | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
because the examiner had looked at my paper - just looked at it, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:08 | |
didn't read it - and said, "This boy will not pass." | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
I said, "Why not?" He said, "Look at all the horrible writing, can't read it." | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
And that was it. That was my scholarship gone down the drain! | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
The boy from the Potteries, Jim Humphries, passed the scholarship exam in 1932 | 0:13:20 | 0:13:27 | |
and entered the new world of Hanley High School. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
Hanley High was one of a new breed of grammar schools | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
introduced by local education authorities in the 1900s | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
which gave around half their places for free. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:42 | |
Despite winning a free place, Jim was held back by the many disadvantages | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
of a working-class background. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
I didn't do very well at the grammar school, not as well as I ought to have done | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
and could have done, but a lot of that was due to the fact that, er, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:59 | |
my home environment wasn't very brilliant. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
It was almost impossible to do homework, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
and that let me down a little bit, not doing my homework properly. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
At the same time, I wasn't unduly worried | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
because I knew I was only going to be at the school for two years | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
because my family financial circumstances were such that I knew I'd have to leave and start work | 0:14:18 | 0:14:25 | |
to help my mother out, who was doing a man's job | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
and working too hard for her health's sake. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:33 | |
In fact, sometimes I didn't see her for several days | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
because she'd have gone to work in the morning before I got up | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
and I'd have gone to bed at night before she got home. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
Grammar schools were sex segregated | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
and girls' schools had particularly strict rules on proper dress and behaviour. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:54 | |
Though she couldn't go to the top girls' school in Manchester, | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
Mabel McCoy started at Levenshulme High School for Girls in 1934. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:02 | |
We had a very strict headmistress, absolutely dedicated to the school. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:09 | |
At the beginning of each year, you had to kneel down, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
and your gymslip was measured, how many inches it was from the floor. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
Mabel thrived at grammar school, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
doing particularly well in science subjects, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
but she soon discovered that even the merest hint of defiance | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
would not be tolerated. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
The teacher was called Miss Williams. She said... | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:15:32 | 0:15:33 | |
"I suppose you're resting on your laurels," | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
because I'd done very well in my previous physics exam, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
and I very cheekily said, "Yes, miss." | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
And I was out of the door. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
She actually stamped her foot at me! She sent me out. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:51 | |
It sounds a simple thing, really, to get rid of you like that. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:58 | |
I regretted it, because I would miss the rest of the lesson, | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
but you'd regret it worse if you got in the hands of the headmistress | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
or one of the seniors that was passing. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
There was a healthy body, healthy mind philosophy, and this, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
combined with strict discipline, was prized as highly as academic achievement. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:18 | |
This was a perfect fit for the many children of the time | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
who were taught absolute respect for their parents, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
like Tony Pickering, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
who went to Market Harborough Grammar School in 1932. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
I was always taught at home with my father, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
an ex-Royal Navy warrant officer, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
to respect elders and how to behave. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
For instance, I will say to you that when we sat down for our lunch | 0:16:38 | 0:16:43 | |
at the table, and we were a large family, we sat at the table, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
no-one picked up their knives and forks until such time as my father picked his. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:54 | |
He was the leading man of the family. Even before my mother, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
he picked his knife and fork up and we could all then start on our meal. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
In an era of economic depression and widespread malnutrition, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
physical fitness was regarded as vital to children's development. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:13 | |
So, too, were competitive team games based on the house system - | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
cricket, rugby, swimming, hockey and football | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
were an important part of school life for boys. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
And to play for the school team, in whatever sport, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
was a badge of honour. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
Tony Pickering's passion was for football. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
I started off in the third team, but I quickly went through the second, | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
into the first team, at still only about 14 years of age. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:41 | |
I was promoted quickly through the ranks, as one would say, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:46 | |
into the first team, because I was a tough little boy. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
Hard. I could take my knocks. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
Home or away, the team was an ambassador for the school's values. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
Playing well and good conduct were more important than winning. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
Then you had to show that you were a credit to the grammar school. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
That was most important. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
We were taught that we must never let our school down | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
in front of another school. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
We must show them that we were an old grammar school | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
which had been preserved for 300 years | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
and we had to maintain that standard. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
The competitive spirit was carried over into the classroom. Every piece of work was graded, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:28 | |
and children were given class positions in every subject. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
It not only motivated some pupils, like Ella Wright, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
but the parents, too. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:36 | |
Ella's mother was ambitious for her daughter, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
and not being top of the class was definitely not part of her game plan. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:45 | |
I got 47% for arithmetic. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
I was 17th in the class, and 17th out of 32 struck my mother as pretty bad. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:55 | |
I never got down there again. I remember my elevation. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
The next time I was from 17 to 11th, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
and I got up to 7th and then I got up to 4th. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:06 | |
I was always good at history, and frequently at the grammar school presentations, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:11 | |
I got the history prize. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
And I got the geography prize. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
There were three of us ranging... I never got top. Never got top. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:20 | |
But I was 2nd and 3rd, 4th. 2nd, 3rd, 4th. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
The imperfect subjunctive of fero - | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
-ferem, feres, feret, feramus, feratis, ferent. -Yes, that's right. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
Streaming on the basis of ability went to the heart of the grammar school ethos. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
There was a bias in favour of Latin over science, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
so children who showed promise at languages could be rapidly promoted to the top streams. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:43 | |
The brightest scholarship children were also fast-tracked, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
like Manchester schoolboy Geoffrey Stone. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
This is condemned by people as hot-housing, but it didn't seem it at the time. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
I didn't feel under pressure at any time. Just the way things were. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
You did what you were asked to do, to the best of your ability, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
and it seemed to be good enough. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
So I did School Certificate, as it then was, matriculation at 14, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:09 | |
after four years in the school, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
so that took me into the sixth form, then, at the ridiculous age of 14. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
Despite their emphasis on academic achievement, the grammar schools | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
also provided a huge range of outdoor extra-curricular activities. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
There were five Scout troops in the school. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
We had a summer camp, a fortnight's camp, every Whitsuntide. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:36 | |
Obviously, from the point of view of the school, | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
academic standards were high and exams were important, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
but they didn't seem so. They never seemed so to me. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
And I was much more preoccupied with my out-of-school activities than my academic activities. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:49 | |
Grammar schools went to great length to treat all children the same. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
There was no distinction between rich and poor, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
or between fee-paying and scholarship children. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
This notion of equality appealed to David Attenborough's highly educated parents, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:08 | |
and David and his two brothers were sent to Wyggeston Grammar School for Boys, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
in Leicester, in 1936. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
It didn't occur to me that the school was selective, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
or had been selected, | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
because there was a huge range of boys in my school. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:26 | |
Clever ones and less clever ones, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
and some that clearly came from poorer families than others. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:36 | |
But the grammar school educational bias which emphasised | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
the importance of Latin and classics, | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
was not quite as even-handed as their attitude towards social background, | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
and there was little choice when it came to the subjects studied. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
The school took that view that if you were really intelligent, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
you did classics - Greek and Latin - | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
and if you were really not very intelligent at all, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:05 | |
then you did practical things like woodwork and French, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
believe it or not! | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
And in between, if you weren't one thing or the other, you did science. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
And I was in between. I did science. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
I would like to think that I would have chosen science anyway, had I been given the choice. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:22 | |
For many working-class children, the scholarship offered merely | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
a glimpse of a world they couldn't enter. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
In the 1930s, over half left grammar school as soon as they reached | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
the official school-leaving age of 14. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
Their extra income was needed to support families suffering in the Depression years. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:41 | |
Jim Humphries had always known where his ultimate duty lay. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
It was no disappointment for me to have to leave school, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
because I knew it was inevitable. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
I went before a committee in Burslem and explained why I wanted to leave school, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:58 | |
and they agreed, and I was allowed to. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
Jim had already been for an interview at the factory | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
where his mother worked. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
It was agreed that he should begin at the earliest opportunity. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:13 | |
I can remember the last day of school. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
The school finished at 12.35, and I rushed to the bicycle shed, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:22 | |
got on me bike, rode home to Cobridge. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
Father got the dinner on the table, ate that, got on me bike again | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
and got to Stoke, and the factory, just in time for two o'clock. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
So I started work then. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
Jim became the junior office boy. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
It was a weekly wage. It wasn't a salary. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
A weekly wage. Eight shillings was just the right amount to pay the rent, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:46 | |
and I felt really good that I was contributing to the family. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:51 | |
Inspired by his brief taste of grammar school, Jim educated himself at night school, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:58 | |
and later in life became a company secretary. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
But in the 1930s, over three-quarters of Britain's children educated at elementary schools | 0:24:02 | 0:24:09 | |
left school at 14. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:10 | |
Many of these young people entered dead-end jobs | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
and only a few were able to climb the ladder to professional success. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
One of them was Charles Chilton who, in 1932, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
was looking around London for work. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
I suddenly realised that I was quite close to that new BBC building, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:31 | |
Broadcasting House, which had just been opened by King George V, | 0:24:31 | 0:24:36 | |
and I thought, "Well, they must need boys in the BBC to do something. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:42 | |
"Why don't I go in and ask for a job there?" | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
So I went into the Broadcasting House, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
through those great bronze doors, went up to the reception. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
Charles was soon given his marching orders, but as he left, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:56 | |
a commissionaire gave him some advice that would change his life. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
As I was walking out, there was a commissionaire. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
He said, "Listen, son, if I were you, I'd go home and write a letter." | 0:25:04 | 0:25:09 | |
I thought, "All right," so I did. I went home and I immediately wrote a letter to the BBC, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
asking if there was a vacancy in their firm for a bright young boy who's just left school, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:20 | |
and I got a reply, for an interview. I had the interview. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
A week or so later, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
I got the offer of a job as a messenger boy in the BBC. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
Charles was one of the lucky few who was able to truly educate himself. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:36 | |
When I got to the BBC, I was most impressed by the people I was working with. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:41 | |
They were educated, friendly, kindly, generous people. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
There was one man there, particularly, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
who used to compile the serious music of gramophone records, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
and I used to go and talk to him in his office. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
He used to give me lessons in music and tell me what books to read, | 0:25:55 | 0:26:00 | |
and things like that. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
So, slowly, I began to accumulate some knowledge | 0:26:02 | 0:26:07 | |
and appreciation of higher things, which eventually paid off. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
In spite of missing out on a grammar school education, | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
Charles Chilton worked his way up to be a radio producer | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
and presenter, as well as the co-writer of Oh What A Lovely War. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:23 | |
But in 1930s Britain, opportunities were minimal, and children from a modest background | 0:26:24 | 0:26:30 | |
needed the spur of a grammar school education to progress. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
It not only encouraged academic achievement | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
but also leadership skills, through the prefect system. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
Geoffrey Stone was made a prefect at the age of just 15, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
in the sixth form at Manchester Grammar. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
One of the first things you had to do was buy a mortar board | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
to wear when you were on duty, and I still have mine with me. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
I have it here and... | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
Lo, it still fits! | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
And every time you went on duty, you had to wear it | 0:27:00 | 0:27:05 | |
and keep it on all the time you were on duty, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
which of course was an incentive to the rest of the school | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
to make sure that they took it off you if they could. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
But even for Geoffrey, there was a harsh social reality he couldn't escape. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
-I wish you success and I hope to keep your job. -Thanks. -Cheerio. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
My father had been works manager, and the firm went bankrupt. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
He suddenly found himself unemployed. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
Now, there was still expense in being at school, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:36 | |
and things that I was accustomed to do, like going to camp | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
and so on, suddenly became expensive beyond their means. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
The school was very good indeed with the purchase of books | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
and going to camp, in providing for that, without anyone knowing, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
and looking after me until he was employed again. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
Geoffrey's achievements continued to be a source of pride for his parents, | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
but he knew that part of his Manchester Grammar School dream had slipped away. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:06 | |
The normal route was to go to Oxbridge, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:11 | |
and that was what I'd been hoping to do, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
and you really needed something like three different awards - | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
a university scholarship, state scholarship, as they were called, | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
a local authority award, something like this, that would meet your costs. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
And the notion of staying on for another year at school | 0:28:26 | 0:28:31 | |
with the expenditure involved in books and everything else, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
it was decided that I should instead have a go at scholarships at Manchester. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:43 | |
So I took the modern language scholarship there | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
and went up to Manchester, where I read French and German. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:51 | |
But for many of the younger generation of 1930s, | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
getting a job, earning money and enjoying the new life that was opening up, | 0:28:56 | 0:29:02 | |
was more important than education. One of them was Mabel McCoy's elder brother. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:08 | |
When Mabel was studying for her School Certificate in 1938, | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
this led to a clash of interests. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
The radio would be going all the time he was in the house, with dance band music. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:22 | |
It was impossible for me to do homework in the living room, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
so the only place I could go to do my homework was upstairs in the bathroom, | 0:29:25 | 0:29:31 | |
because it was the only other room that was heated by the hot-water system. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:38 | |
And so, I did spend a lot of time in the bathroom, studying. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:45 | |
Mabel was one of a new generation of young women breaking the mould. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
She passed her School Certificate with excellent results in chemistry | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
and then went on to study chemistry at Manchester College of Technology | 0:29:54 | 0:29:59 | |
before becoming a research scientist. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
I didn't get to the best girls' grammar school in Manchester. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:08 | |
And I have no regrets at all. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
I don't know what would have happened | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
if I had gone to the Manchester High School for Girls. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:22 | |
I don't think it would have been much different from | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
when I went to Levenshulme High School. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
On the eve of the Second World War in 1938, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
a flood of young men, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:33 | |
many of them former grammar school boys, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
volunteered to join the RAF. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
NEWSREADER: The RAF's enormous expansion is being carried out according to plan | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
and there will certainly never be a shortage of manpower in that service. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:47 | |
Fit, keen and efficient, that's the RAF. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
Tony Pickering had left grammar school with a School Certificate | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
and was desperate not to be rejected by the RAF. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
The first question they asked me was, | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
what school did I go to? | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
I told them, Market Harborough Grammar School, | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
they'd asked me what my father did in the First World War, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
and I was able to tell him warrant officer of the Royal Navy, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
a regular. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:16 | |
And what sport I played. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
Now, I must be quite honest with you, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
I didn't tell them I played soccer, | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
because I didn't think the RAF would welcome a soccer player, | 0:31:25 | 0:31:30 | |
so I had actually picked up a rugby ball once, | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
so I said, "Played rugby, sir." | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
And I got full marks for that, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
but it wasn't strictly speaking correct. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
"Methinks I see in my mind... | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
"..a mighty and puissant nation | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
"rousing herself like a strong man after sleep... | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
"..and shaking her invincible locks." | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
For Tony Pickering, the grammar school virtues | 0:32:00 | 0:32:04 | |
of loyalty, pride and courage served the RAF and the country well. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:09 | |
Sergeant pilots like Tony played a vital role | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
in the RAF's success in the Battle of Britain and throughout the war. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
We were sent in to attack the bombers coming in towards London, | 0:32:17 | 0:32:22 | |
and we went in on a head-on attack | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
and it was essential that you reacted very quickly, | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
because there were streams of fire coming from these bombers to you, | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
so you had to position yourself quickly, you had no time to think. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:38 | |
And this was something which I had been taught when playing soccer, | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
and cricket at the grammar school, | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
you must act quickly. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
And I moved quickly up to a position where I could get in to attack, | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
and that was the speed of reaction, the speed of thought. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
Tony Pickering worked his way up through the ranks | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
from sergeant pilot to flight lieutenant | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
before becoming squadron leader. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
The war dramatically changed the prospects | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
of all school children in Britain. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
It started with the evacuation of three million children from the cities to the countryside, | 0:33:17 | 0:33:22 | |
to escape the danger of imminent German bombing. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
These were the first steps of a journey that would lead to | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
a revolutionary change in educational policy during the war years. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
Terence Frisby was evacuated with his elder brother | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
from London to Cornwall in September, 1939. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
My mother had the most brilliant idea when we were being evacuated. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:50 | |
She turned it into an adventure for us. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
She showed us a postcard and said, "We'll have our own code, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
"our own secret code like the Secret Service." | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
And she showed us this postcard and it said, | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
"Dear Mum and Dad, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:01 | |
"arrived safe and well, everything fine. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
"Love Jack and Terry." | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
And on it was my mother and father's address, and a stamp, and a space. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
And she said, "In that space there | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
"you write the name and address of the people where you are going." | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
And we said, "Is that the code? Is that it?" | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
She said, "No, no, this is the code. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
"If it's horrible you put one kiss, and I'll bring you straight home. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
"If it's all right you put two, if it's nice you put three." | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
In fact, Terence and his brother | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
were safe, secure and well looked after. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
And they thrived on the freedom and adventure the countryside offered. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
The education provided by village schools was basic and undemanding. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:47 | |
SONG: "Land of Hope and Glory" | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
For would-be grammar school boys like 10-year-old Terence, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:55 | |
the pressures of homework | 0:34:55 | 0:34:56 | |
and the impending scholarship exam were quickly forgotten. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
There was, however, | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
one slight problem. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
Evacuee children and the local village children | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
were themselves at war. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
I'm afraid the vackies wiped the floor with the village kids | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
on practically everything except possibly country knowledge. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
I mean, we played sport against them and just walloped them, | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
cricket, football. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:19 | |
And we were much better at lessons. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
We had various songs that we used to taunt each other with, | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
and I've got one here that we used against the village kids. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:35 | |
# The turnips are thick | 0:35:35 | 0:35:36 | |
# The turnips are dumb | 0:35:36 | 0:35:37 | |
# They use stinging nettles | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
# For wiping their bum | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
# They eat mangelwurzels | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
# And live in a shed | 0:35:43 | 0:35:44 | |
# They're dotty and spotty | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
# And soft in the head. # | 0:35:46 | 0:35:47 | |
Schoolchildren who remained in the towns and cities at a low risk of bombing | 0:35:48 | 0:35:53 | |
were engaged in a different kind of warfare. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
The ever-present undercurrent of rebellion | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
against the regimentation of grammar school life was made worse by the war. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:05 | |
Morning, boys. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:06 | |
At Wyggeston Grammar School in Leicester | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
David Attenborough and his classmates | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
used a junk room next to their class to cause trouble. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
We climbed in | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
and rearranged the whole piping into a pile, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:23 | |
so that if you pulled the bottom part the whole thing would collapse, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
and then took a wire from there and put it through my desk. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
And so in the middle of the class when we were trying... | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
I yanked it | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
and there's an explosion next door. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
Hurray! | 0:36:40 | 0:36:41 | |
It was a great do. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
But we were silly and of course tried to repeat it and then we got caught. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:48 | |
Wartime shortages put most schools under severe pressure. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
One of the problems was increased class sizes. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
NEWSREADER: The pupils of a dozen different schools | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
are often brought together in one school building. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
Here, teachers successfully battle with wartime obstacles to give their pupils | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
the essentials of secondary education. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
But the biggest problem of all for the wartime grammar schools was the absence of young male teachers, | 0:37:09 | 0:37:15 | |
many of whom had been called up for military service. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
Women and retired teachers were drafted in to take their place. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
Some of the teachers were in their late 60s, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
and we were a handful, you know. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
If it was a boring lesson | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
they had a job on their hands to keep us in order, | 0:37:31 | 0:37:36 | |
and they didn't always succeed, either. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
The lack of young and charismatic teachers to inspire the children | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
exposed the weaknesses of grammar school teaching methods, | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
and its narrow curriculum. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
I was just an average lad | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
who doesn't take to discipline all that easily. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
And who found a lot of the lessons profoundly boring. | 0:37:54 | 0:38:00 | |
French irregular verbs still don't actually turn me on. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
Neither does Latin. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
The established career path for grammar school girls | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
was to become teachers themselves. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
Ella Wright completed her teacher training during the war, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:18 | |
realising her mother's dreams. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
Ella's first job as a young teacher | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
was in a tough mining village in Derbyshire. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
The first few weeks I got home, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
mother just used to say, | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
"How have you got on today, pet?" | 0:38:29 | 0:38:30 | |
And I'd burst into tears. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
And wept for about half an hour. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
Then she says, "It will get easier", and it did. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:39 | |
She says, "You will get tougher." | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
And I did. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:42 | |
Taking strength from the inspirational example | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
of her history teacher, Ella gained in confidence. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
My favourite teacher at the grammar school, history. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:55 | |
She made history alive for me. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
Everything she said, I hung on her words and was inspired, | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
and she interested me, and I think I did a lot to try and be like her. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:07 | |
And by the end of the first year I was relaxed and happy. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:12 | |
Ella soon imposed the strict discipline | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
of her former grammar school and took control of her class. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
I talked to them, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
and I pointed out they were punishing themselves | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
by behaving so badly. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
They would never get a good job, | 0:39:29 | 0:39:30 | |
they wouldn't get a good report or recommendation, | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
so they were doing themselves no end of harm. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
And then I said if you ever do that again, | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
you are going to stay with me for half an hour after school | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
and you are going to write down an essay | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
of all the things you are going to do. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:47 | |
I'd learnt. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
I've become a really qualified teacher. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
The battle of the Atlantic between Britain and Germany | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
reached its height in 1941. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
This life-and-death struggle | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
motivated patriotic grammar school children to join the war effort. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:07 | |
It gave boys like David Attenborough a taste of the real world. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:13 | |
Someone came to school and said that | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
British lands were dying | 0:40:15 | 0:40:16 | |
because there weren't submarines and British submarines | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
because they lacked a particular kind of part | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
in which plastic was bonded to metal | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
and only this factory could do it | 0:40:26 | 0:40:28 | |
and without it we couldn't build submarines. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
Who would volunteer to go and make it? | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
I put my hand up and I went into this appalling factory. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
I remember it vividly. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
The noise, the barrage of noise, | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
hurt you physically, of huge presses. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
They said, shrieking, "That's where you're going to work." | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
There's a great press coming up. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
And you have to do this, and then out comes a thing. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
What came out were buttons, and I said, "There's a mistake. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
"I'm here making vital parts for submarines, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
"I'm not making fly buttons." | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
They said, "Well, the chap who was making fly buttons | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
"is now doing that and you're making fly buttons." | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
But I remember that very well. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
The spirit of patriotism which infused the wartime grammar schools | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
encouraged children to appreciate how fortunate they were | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
to be enjoying an extended education. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
CHILDREN SING | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
This was a lesson not lost on Joan Bakewell | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
who attended the prestigious Stockport High School for Girls. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:35 | |
The headmistress was very, very exercised | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
about us being part of a privileged group of girls | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
who were getting a huge opportunity. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
I've always loved learning things | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
and I have been brought up to enjoy learning. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
So the prospect of learning lots more stuff was really great. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:54 | |
I wasn't afraid of it, I was absolutely thrilled by it. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
The constant threat and disruption | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
in wartime added urgency to the message. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:04 | |
The Blitz on the major British cities cost almost 60,000 lives, | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
and the bombed-out buildings provided a constant reminder | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
that life could be cut brutally short. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
I've always been haunted by time. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
I had a sense that there was no time to be wasted, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
the world was full of interest, | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
and how was I going to ever get round at all? | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
How was I ever going to read all the books and visit all the countries? | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
So I did have an idea that time mustn't be wasted, | 0:42:29 | 0:42:33 | |
and it was passing, it was fleeting. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
It might be something to do with the war | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
and the fear of being killed, | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
because children dramatised the war. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
I was only in a town that had a few bombs, | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
and we weren't hit at all. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
But the talk about the war was that you could be killed. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
The harsh realities of war seemed far removed | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
from the lives of evacuated children, | 0:42:58 | 0:43:00 | |
growing up in the countryside. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
But in 1943 everything was about to change | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
for Terence Frisby when he turned 11. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
Everybody said, "You must take the scholarship to grammar school, | 0:43:08 | 0:43:12 | |
"you'll sail through it." | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
And there was a teacher there and my parents paid her some money, | 0:43:14 | 0:43:19 | |
not much I'm sure, to give me extra lessons to make sure I took the exam. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
And then the day came when I had to take the scholarship for grammar school. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
There was an intelligence test. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:30 | |
I'd never seen one of those before. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:32 | |
I remember having to think about that. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
But the writing and arithmetic and all the other things | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
and sums that we had to do, | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
I was quite good at that. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
For Terence, passing the 11-plus meant leaving behind an idyllic country childhood. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:49 | |
In autumn 1943 he went to Dartford Grammar School near London. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:54 | |
Having been the cleverest boy in the village school | 0:43:55 | 0:43:58 | |
I was put in the B stage at the grammar school, | 0:43:58 | 0:44:00 | |
and discovered that there were 90 other boys in my year | 0:44:00 | 0:44:03 | |
who were equally as clever as me, | 0:44:03 | 0:44:05 | |
if not a great deal more so, | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
and that was the end of my great scholastic achievement, | 0:44:08 | 0:44:11 | |
having been the star of the village school | 0:44:11 | 0:44:13 | |
and I went very quickly from the first year to the second year, | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
from the B stage to the C stage, | 0:44:16 | 0:44:18 | |
and there I stayed throughout my grammar school years. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:22 | |
As part of the new spirit of national unity, some grammar schools | 0:44:24 | 0:44:29 | |
began to encourage their sixth formers to cross the class divide | 0:44:29 | 0:44:34 | |
and teach younger children in the poorest areas. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
Wyggeston Grammar School operated such a scheme in Leicester. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:41 | |
They asked for volunteers to go and teach | 0:44:42 | 0:44:46 | |
in a very poor quarter of Leicester. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
Which I volunteered for. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:53 | |
I must say it was a revelation which I've not forgotten | 0:44:54 | 0:44:59 | |
that these lads, you know, from very poor homes... | 0:44:59 | 0:45:06 | |
charming people. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
I mean, they were just lovely kids. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
Of course, they were tough and so on | 0:45:12 | 0:45:14 | |
but you had to work to gain their interest but if you did, | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
you really had them in the palm of your hand. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
Actually, I went... And I remember talking about fossils | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
because I was interested in fossils and THEY were interested in fossils. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:27 | |
There was a very nice kid right at the back of the class, I remember. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:34 | |
I noticed that as I was walking up and down, | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
that there was some black liquid underneath his chair. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:40 | |
I said, "What's that?" And it was blood. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:46 | |
And he was a ragged kid and his elbows were out | 0:45:47 | 0:45:52 | |
and he had fallen over in the playground, | 0:45:52 | 0:45:54 | |
which was an asphalt playground, | 0:45:54 | 0:45:56 | |
and he was sitting there, dripping blood from his arm onto the floor. | 0:45:56 | 0:46:01 | |
But he was a stoic kid, you see, sitting there, | 0:46:01 | 0:46:03 | |
listening to me talking about brachiopods! | 0:46:03 | 0:46:07 | |
Concerns about the well-being of British children | 0:46:07 | 0:46:11 | |
became the focus of health and education campaigns during the war. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:16 | |
There was a vision of a new Jerusalem. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
A reward for five years of enormous effort and shared sacrifice. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:23 | |
The dream of the better world that a new education system | 0:46:23 | 0:46:26 | |
could bring about was embodied in a revolutionary piece of legislation | 0:46:26 | 0:46:30 | |
passed by the war government in 1944. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:34 | |
What we aim at doing is to give every child at every level | 0:46:34 | 0:46:37 | |
some form of secondary education. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:40 | |
That is to say some practical, some general, some what you call academic. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:45 | |
The effect, as I see it, will be as much social as educational. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
I think it will help the result of welding us all into one nation. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:52 | |
The vision of Education Minister Rab Butler and the wartime government | 0:46:53 | 0:46:59 | |
was inspired by the ideal of free secondary education for all the nation's children. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:04 | |
In the forefront of the educational revolution | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
would be the grammar schools. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
They would be the powerhouse of Britain's future, | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
with places offered only to the brightest pupils. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
The grammar school children themselves | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
knew there were dramatic changes afoot | 0:47:20 | 0:47:22 | |
but they found the politics of it all rather confusing. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
We'd been schoolgirls throughout the war and there were shelters in the school grounds. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:29 | |
Stockport was bombed, Manchester more so. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:32 | |
We knew that war was terrible and we'd won it. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:34 | |
We were enormously proud that we had won it and Churchill, | 0:47:34 | 0:47:38 | |
of course, was the idol of the nation, unqualified idol. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:42 | |
So we had a school election to mirror the election | 0:47:42 | 0:47:46 | |
and a lot of girls said, "What party are you? | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
"What party are you?" | 0:47:49 | 0:47:50 | |
So I sided with my friends and said, "Oh, yes, I'm Conservative." | 0:47:50 | 0:47:54 | |
I went home and I said to my parents, "There's a school election. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:58 | |
"I am Conservative, aren't I?" They went, "No! No, you're not." | 0:47:58 | 0:48:02 | |
So I went back to school and said, "I made a mistake. I'm Labour." | 0:48:02 | 0:48:07 | |
And I had no idea what either of them meant at all. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:11 | |
But loyalty to the tribe you belong to, | 0:48:11 | 0:48:14 | |
you see, required that I was Labour. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
NEWSREEL: 'Though defeated, Mr Churchill is acclaimed as a great war leader.' | 0:48:16 | 0:48:21 | |
The sweeping victories throughout the country | 0:48:21 | 0:48:26 | |
mark an epoch in the political life of this country. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:31 | |
The Labour government that was swept to power | 0:48:31 | 0:48:34 | |
in an atmosphere of post-war idealism now had the daunting task | 0:48:34 | 0:48:40 | |
of delivering their promise of a better world. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:43 | |
'Every child must be given the chance to develop his talent and abilities to the maximum. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:47 | |
'We shall need more than laws to make this scheme a reality throughout the land. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:52 | |
'Don't say we can't afford it. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:54 | |
'The cost of four days of war would keep the scheme going for a year. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:58 | |
'We can afford anything when we are buying the future of our children. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
'Let us make this new Education Act a real children's charter.' | 0:49:02 | 0:49:07 | |
The ideals of the Education Reform Act were carried forward | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
on a wave of optimism after the war, | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
but would take years to implement. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:16 | |
One immediate impact, however, | 0:49:16 | 0:49:17 | |
was the return of teachers who had been fighting in the war. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:21 | |
The younger men came back from the war and we boys, | 0:49:21 | 0:49:24 | |
of course, regarded them with a great deal more respect, | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
admiration, whatever, than the others. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:30 | |
One who came back from the war was a man called Holliday, | 0:49:30 | 0:49:33 | |
who had a big effect on me. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
He taught me economics, economic history, political history | 0:49:36 | 0:49:40 | |
and politics in the Sixth Form, | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
when I did a special course in that because I wanted to be a journalist | 0:49:42 | 0:49:46 | |
and become a politician and all the rest of it. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
This man really opened my mind to a whole lot of ideas | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
that were outside my own rather conventional | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
Labour Party views of the world. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
I came into his classes, you see, and I knew everything about politics | 0:49:58 | 0:50:02 | |
and economics, because my dad was a member of the Labour Party | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
and I was a young member. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:06 | |
My dad was a trade unionist and I had got the world sorted at 16 years old! | 0:50:06 | 0:50:11 | |
And he challenged everything I said. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:14 | |
He just challenged it and made me think about it. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:17 | |
Former Manchester grammar school boy Geoffrey Stone | 0:50:17 | 0:50:20 | |
served in the Intelligence Corps during the war. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
After the war, he was tempted by a glittering career prospect. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:27 | |
I did the exam for the senior branch of the Foreign Service. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:31 | |
And, er... | 0:50:31 | 0:50:33 | |
..there were just two of us who eventually passed. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
And I was duly offered a place in the Foreign Service. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:42 | |
But Geoffrey wasn't convinced that this | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
was what he really wanted to do. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:49 | |
Hey! Excuse me! | 0:50:49 | 0:50:51 | |
Just a minute! | 0:50:51 | 0:50:53 | |
How would you like a job... | 0:50:55 | 0:50:57 | |
with a good salary, professional status and a pension? | 0:50:57 | 0:51:01 | |
Yes, but what is this job? | 0:51:01 | 0:51:03 | |
School-teaching. You'll get one year's free training | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
and a maintenance allowance if needed. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
The urgent need to recruit more teachers after the war | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
convinced Geoffrey to change his mind. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
He became a teacher. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:15 | |
I enjoyed teaching and I'd done a bit before the war, you see. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:20 | |
I did best part of a term's teaching between the end of my degree course | 0:51:20 | 0:51:25 | |
and joining the Intelligence Corps and enjoyed it. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:29 | |
So, to everyone's astonishment, | 0:51:29 | 0:51:31 | |
I turned the Foreign Service down and went into teaching. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
I got a nice little letter from them, | 0:51:34 | 0:51:36 | |
saying they hoped I would never regret my decision. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
Geoffrey spent all his working life in education. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
He's pictured here on the day he became headmaster | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
of Heanor Grammar School in Derbyshire in 1957. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:51 | |
When Terence Frisby came to the end of his final year | 0:51:53 | 0:51:56 | |
at Dartford Grammar School in 1949, | 0:51:56 | 0:51:59 | |
he had no idea what he wanted to do in life... | 0:51:59 | 0:52:03 | |
other than to carry on learning. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
I can remember now the assembly, which was our last day of school. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:10 | |
And I stood there and I was one of those boys who were going out. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
I just felt tears running down my cheeks. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
I hadn't realised I'd been so happy there, | 0:52:16 | 0:52:19 | |
or maybe I was frightened of the outside world, I don't know. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
But I didn't want to go - I wanted that to go on. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
Terence went to drama school | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
and in the '60s became a successful playwright. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
His play, There's A Girl In My Soup, was a worldwide hit. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:36 | |
When his inspirational teacher came across one of his plays, | 0:52:37 | 0:52:41 | |
he wrote Terence a letter of congratulations. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
Terence wrote back. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
"What you cannot possibly know is that | 0:52:47 | 0:52:49 | |
"of all of those who taught me before drama school, | 0:52:49 | 0:52:51 | |
"you had far and away the biggest influence on me. | 0:52:51 | 0:52:54 | |
"Even though our paths crossed for only one year. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:57 | |
"Your ideas and personality left a big impression | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
"at a time in life when impressions last. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:03 | |
"One boy who passed through your hands, | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
"on whom you left your beneficial mark, and who is grateful. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:10 | |
I meant that, obviously. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:12 | |
And he wrote back and said to me, "I don't remember being that good." | 0:53:12 | 0:53:16 | |
Or something like that. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:18 | |
The glittering prize of a place at Oxford or Cambridge | 0:53:19 | 0:53:23 | |
was the ambition of every grammar school for their brightest students. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:27 | |
For the vast majority who came from a humble background, | 0:53:27 | 0:53:30 | |
this remained no more than a dream. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:33 | |
But a few tenacious spirits were determined to change attitudes | 0:53:33 | 0:53:36 | |
by making it to the top. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:38 | |
In 1950, Joan Bakewell became Head Girl of Stockport High School For Girls. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:46 | |
The idea of university came on the horizon. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
No-one in my family had ever been through a university | 0:53:49 | 0:53:52 | |
and I don't think they knew really what it meant. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:54 | |
They knew there was one in Manchester and one in Liverpool, | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
but I found I knew that there were two really top-class ones | 0:53:57 | 0:54:01 | |
that were called Oxford and Cambridge. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | |
So, with my usual competitive spirit, I thought, "Well, go for the top. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:07 | |
"No point in trying for anything else. Work your way there." | 0:54:07 | 0:54:10 | |
And I said, "I want to go to Oxford or Cambridge." | 0:54:10 | 0:54:12 | |
People said, "Well, to do what?" | 0:54:12 | 0:54:14 | |
I said, "Well, I don't know, but I'm going to find out. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:17 | |
"Because that's where I want to go." | 0:54:17 | 0:54:19 | |
I bought a book of Cambridge, which was full | 0:54:19 | 0:54:21 | |
of absolutely wonderful sepia photographs of the colleges. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
No students in sight. It wasn't student life I was after, | 0:54:24 | 0:54:27 | |
I was after getting away to somewhere incredibly beautiful, | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
very prestigious, where you could go on learning things. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:34 | |
However, the number of grammar school girls | 0:54:41 | 0:54:44 | |
who gained Oxbridge places was less than half that of the boys. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:48 | |
There was still deep prejudice against women | 0:54:50 | 0:54:52 | |
enjoying an extended education and career, | 0:54:52 | 0:54:54 | |
even in the top girls' grammar schools, | 0:54:54 | 0:54:58 | |
as Joan Bakewell would discover | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
when she won a scholarship to Newnham College, Cambridge. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:04 | |
School believed you could achieve things in school. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
And that you would go on to have a job, perhaps. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:09 | |
But perhaps not a career. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:11 | |
And I do remember, on the day that I got my scholarship | 0:55:11 | 0:55:15 | |
that would take me to Cambridge | 0:55:15 | 0:55:17 | |
and I went up to receive the scroll from the mayor or someone, | 0:55:17 | 0:55:21 | |
the headmistress made a speech that said the following: | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
"We're enormously proud, of course, that Joan is going to Cambridge. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:28 | |
"But I want to say to the rest of you | 0:55:28 | 0:55:30 | |
"that the real purpose of a woman's life | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
"is to be a wife and mother." | 0:55:33 | 0:55:34 | |
I was furious. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:37 | |
I was furious and, of course, I took on that message, too. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:42 | |
And that is also the message of the generations: | 0:55:42 | 0:55:46 | |
However much you might achieve, | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
your true inner fulfilment will be as a wife and mother. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:52 | |
The young Labour supporter, Joan Bakewell, | 0:55:54 | 0:55:56 | |
followed her successful career as a writer and television presenter | 0:55:56 | 0:56:00 | |
by becoming a Labour peer. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:02 | |
For a new generation of grammar school boys, | 0:56:03 | 0:56:08 | |
the prospect of entering the exclusive world of Oxbridge | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
after the war seemed much less daunting. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:13 | |
Their education and experience would stand them in good stead. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:17 | |
And they found they could mix confidently with anybody. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:20 | |
David Attenborough won a scholarship to Cambridge | 0:56:20 | 0:56:24 | |
to read Natural Science in 1945. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:28 | |
I went to Clare College in Cambridge, | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
where you have staircases and your own rooms. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:33 | |
And I met a very nice chap, erm... | 0:56:33 | 0:56:36 | |
..who lived on the... who'd got the room below. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:40 | |
And he was a modest, quiet chap, but I discovered... | 0:56:42 | 0:56:47 | |
that he had silver cutlery with a monogram on it. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:51 | |
And I'd no idea what this was. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:55 | |
It turned out this was his family monogram, | 0:56:55 | 0:56:57 | |
and he was from a vaguely aristocratic family. | 0:56:57 | 0:57:01 | |
And he... I think he'd been to either Eton or Winchester | 0:57:02 | 0:57:07 | |
and it seemed to me that he didn't know what life was about. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:10 | |
You know? I mean, erm... | 0:57:10 | 0:57:12 | |
..he described his background in a way which made me think | 0:57:14 | 0:57:19 | |
that it was extraordinarily restricted, | 0:57:19 | 0:57:22 | |
and that he had really not sort of met kind of... | 0:57:22 | 0:57:26 | |
..ordinary people. | 0:57:27 | 0:57:29 | |
So I thought that he was at a disadvantage. I didn't think... | 0:57:29 | 0:57:33 | |
-I didn't think -I -was at a disadvantage, | 0:57:33 | 0:57:35 | |
I thought HE was at a disadvantage! | 0:57:35 | 0:57:38 | |
David Attenborough, the former grammar school rebel, | 0:57:38 | 0:57:42 | |
is Britain's most famous naturalist and television broadcaster. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:45 | |
The grammar school dream of an education | 0:57:49 | 0:57:51 | |
that could take children from a humble background to the very top | 0:57:51 | 0:57:54 | |
would only become fully realised in the postwar years. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:58 | |
The educational changes inspired by the war | 0:57:58 | 0:58:01 | |
would help transform the social and political life of Britain. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:05 | |
But at the very height of the grammar schools' success, | 0:58:06 | 0:58:10 | |
the new and radical ideas of the '60s would sweep them away, | 0:58:10 | 0:58:14 | |
igniting a fierce debate which continues to the present day. | 0:58:14 | 0:58:18 | |
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