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Britain is a green and pleasant land, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
but for how long? | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
We're now getting to a situation where any site's | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
worth putting a planning application in for. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
After the biggest shake-up of the planning system in 40 years, | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
the race is on to get Britain building. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
If I have a house here, | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
I'm thinking about building a sort of Berlin Wall. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
It's got to be at least 6ft high. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
So constructors are making plans... | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
Whoever designed that needs to be shot. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
..objectors are making noises... | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
I've had bloody enough of it with what we've got in this town | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
-for counsellors and the load of -BLEEP -they're putting up. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
..and neighbours are going to war. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
We always won our battles as a family, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
and we'll win this one. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
In the firing line, shaping the country of the future, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
are Britain's planners. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
-So, nothing happens in the hall, yeah? -Yes. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
No. No? Yes? No? Yes? | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
Well, thank you for letting us visit, | 0:00:53 | 0:00:54 | |
-and we'll see you on Thursday. -SHE SNIFFLES | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
Another British planning cock-up, really. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
Ooh! | 0:01:00 | 0:01:01 | |
Most planners spend their days dealing with homeowners | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
and housing developers. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:18 | |
But every now and then, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:25 | |
an application arrives that's a little out of the ordinary. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:30 | |
Planner Judith Gordon is near the villages of Lostock Green | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
and Lach Dennis in Cheshire. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
This is what the proposed site layout entails. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
And we're standing round about here. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
And then... | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
..this would be the building itself. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
It would be a similar size probably to a bungalow. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
It may look like a detached house | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
with a lot of parking spaces and a large chimney, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
but it is, in fact, a crematorium. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
We haven't dealt with a new private crematorium before, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
so it's a process of learning for everybody involved. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
-It's long grass, isn't it? -It's really long. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
-Waders might have been more appropriate. -I know! | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
Some of my colleagues have said, "I wish I was dealing with that." | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
I think they'd maybe like to accompany on | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
certainly visits to crematoriums and see what really goes on | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
and dispel some of the myths that people have. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
Last year, planners received just a handful of applications | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
to build private crematoria. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
Three of those were from father and son Howard and Jamieson Hodgson. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:47 | |
They're hoping to build their next crematorium in Cheshire, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
but their flagship development is in South Wales. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
We wanted people to feel | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
that it was professional, that it was comfortable, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
that it was like a five-star hotel, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
but at the same time, it wasn't mauve curtains | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
and very Victorian, depressing death, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
but it was sombre but yet still tastefully done. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
And I think, you know, we've achieved that. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
These are very modern colours, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
but at the same time, they are restrained. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
They're not jazzy. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:21 | |
Most crematoria are counsel-owned. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
The Hodgsons have spotted a gap in the market, | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
and charge upwards of £500 for services at their memorial parks. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:34 | |
The public's biggest single complaint | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
would definitely be that they're in a conveyor belt. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
And so the whole thing is designed | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
so they won't see anybody else out there, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
they won't hear anybody else behind them here, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
they will exit over there from a different way, | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
and we have 45-minute times, whereas the usual is... | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
It can be, in a very busy crematorium, 20. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
More usually, probably 30. | 0:03:58 | 0:03:59 | |
I've grown up in this business. I remember, when I was very young, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:06 | |
my sister and I had easily the fastest sledges | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
because they were made of coffin boards. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
Howard sold his undertaker business for £7 million. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
Private crematoria are his latest venture, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
and he spent nearly £100,000 on the application in Cheshire. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
The reason that we would want to build it, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
erm, is because it's needed. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
We're looking to service in the region of 140,000 people. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
So it is there for community benefit. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
It's also worth remembering that any one of these that is built by us | 0:04:35 | 0:04:40 | |
will cost something between £3.5 million to £4 million. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
That's a big investment, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
and we have to know that there is a need. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
If it's not going to do 1,000 cremations a year, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
then it's not going to give us our money back. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
Crematoria have to be at least 200 yards from neighbouring buildings, | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
which is why Memoria have picked the Cheshire site. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
It'd be quite small in terms of the general landscape, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
but you need to consider | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
what kind of impact that's going to have on this... | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
You know, it's rural in nature. It's virgin agricultural land. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:16 | |
This kind of application | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
is something that's going to provoke a response. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
The locals seem to be fairly anti. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
The proposed site lies on a B road | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
half a mile between the two villages. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
The locals have wasted no time putting pen to paper. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
Among them, national newspaper cartoonist... | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
-That's the wrong way round. -..Bill Stott. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
Where the crematorium | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
is going to be | 0:05:52 | 0:05:53 | |
is a lovely meadow. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
It's really nice. It's full of that green stuff called grass. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
I'd far rather it stayed like that. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
It just feels sad that the developers - | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
a company from down south - | 0:06:05 | 0:06:06 | |
can come up here and bulldoze in our village | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
not knowing anything about it, the people, the place. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
We have a farm. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
A farm is what we have. It's farmland. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
What we don't want is | 0:06:20 | 0:06:21 | |
a damn great chimney and crematorium | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
ruining a fantastic piece of Cheshire countryside. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
One of their big worries is the amount of speeding traffic | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
the crematorium could bring through the villages. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
-We have another fast car coming now. -Exactly. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
Here we go. Look at the speed of this one. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
-Whoa! -Gosh, that's appalling! | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
This is not an infrequent occurrence. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
This is regular. This is a rural lane. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
There will be probably seven funerals a day. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
That's 14 trips if you count going home again. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
Well, going home again minus one. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
In Lancashire, self-made millionaire Colin Burrell | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
is working on his current project - | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
three new homes in Oldham. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
I'm 72. I'm still going, | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
and I get up between six and half past every morning. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
And I might not go in for my tea till ten o'clock at night. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
That's truth, that. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
Right... Ooh, them are big nails. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
Colin's made a fortune buying up derelict properties | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
and selling them on. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
If you want something, you've got to work for it. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
Nobody'll give you nowt. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:51 | |
Although this country seems to give everybody summat for nowt. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
-I shouldn't say that, should I? -HE LAUGHS | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
For his latest project, he's teamed up with his friend, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
kitchen entrepreneur Mark Harrington, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
and architect Andy Woodward. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
They want to build five log cabins as holiday homes | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
on land Colin owns in the village of Birtle on the outskirts of Rochdale. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:15 | |
They're a kind of a traditional log cabin. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
A traditional log home. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
Two bedrooms, a kitchen, a bathroom, and a living area. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
It's not going to look like | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
your traditional caravan site | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
or anything like that. It fits in with the rural aspect. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
It's very low impact. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
The main reason we're going for log cabins | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
is because we think it's in keeping with the area. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
The footpaths are going to be built from something like chippings | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
or bark that will allow water to go through, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
and so they won't affect the trees or anything. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
We just wanted to put together a quality development. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
-It's not... -Which we think we've done. -Yeah. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
And if you're not going to get planning approval for this here, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
you're not going to get planning approval for it anywhere at all. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
They hope to rent the cabins out and encourage tourism in Rochdale. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:07 | |
The Rochdale tourist board have been very, very excited | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
cos they know that there's a lack of quality dwellings for tourists | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
on this side of the town. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
-Yeah. Well, it's a nice place for a millionaire, even, here. -Yeah. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
You know, and the working man, as well. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
I think the people round here would be quite proud of it, actually. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
-This is your dog, Julie, isn't it? -It is. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
-What's he called? She? -Maisie. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:32 | |
Maisie, are you coming to help in the woodland? | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
But the villagers are already proud of Birtle. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
In the past, they've fought off plans for a quarry | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
and have created an action group to protect the look of the village. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
We are an action group, yes. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
Sometimes, we don't feel very active in the pub | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
when we're having a meeting. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:52 | |
But, yes, we are an action group. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
We act and we react to things. Depends what they are. | 0:09:54 | 0:10:00 | |
When they saw the plans for the log cabins, they reacted. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
We don't want the log cabins | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
because it's inappropriate development on the green belt | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
and it's just on the edge of the conservation area. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
There are more reasons, but those are the main ones. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
-Are you a local person? -Yeah. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
Although I'm an incomer, I've lived here | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
for 42 years. And, you know, we have tried very hard | 0:10:21 | 0:10:27 | |
to preserve it. As you can see, it is a lovely spot. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
It's got a lot of character. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
We're trying to keep Birtle... | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
Well, Birtle beautiful. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
Right, I think that's full. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
The Birtle Trust has written to the planning department | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
asking for the cabins to be refused. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
I bet half of them people what live there are all comer-inners anyway. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
I bet they weren't the original ones what worked in the mills. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
They think they're summat special, comer-inners. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
Every time you go and build something, people think, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
"Ooh, what's going on?" But they wouldn't be in their houses. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
The best outcome for Birtle would be that it's refused. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:07 | |
Keep Birtle green and no more built-on than it is already. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:12 | |
We sound like real Nimbys, don't we? | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
Don't mean to. We just want Birtle to be beautiful, | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
-don't we? -Yes, of course we do. -As beautiful as it can be. -Yes. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
It'll be down to Rochdale planner Rebecca Coley | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
to decide if the cabins can go ahead. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
We do have quite a lot of tourism, and we do get a lot of walkers, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
cyclists, and horse riders round the various trails. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
So, there is a recognised need for tourism accommodation, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
and we need to be convinced that it is the right sort of development. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
If people are very protective over changes to the area they live in, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
they're equally passionate about any threats to the wildlife | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
in their own back gardens. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
Usually, throw out just three or four handfuls of these bird nuts. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
It seems to keep them happy. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
In this suburban corner of Cheltenham, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
there's one family that's particularly popular | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
with the neighbours. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
This is for their supper tonight. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
That's fish, ham, peanuts, and cat food. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
But when I do them bread rolls, they go wild. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
Can I have a quick peep out in case they're here? | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
Quite often, we'll see the security light next door come on. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
Then you'll hear rustling in the bushes, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
and out they'll come. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:43 | |
RUSTLING | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
It's quarter to ten, and we have a badger. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
There are around 20 badgers living in a sett | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
on the land at the end of the gardens. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
Last year, we had | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
11 badgers and two foxes in the drive at one time. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
That's a sandwich from next door. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
It's really good - really good - as long as they stay off my lawn. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
Three weeks ago, developers submitted plans | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
to build on the land where the badgers live. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
I think that if the planned development goes ahead, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
there's bound to be an impact on the wildlife, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
and that would be a shame. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:26 | |
New building land in Cheltenham is so hard to find | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
that developers have persuaded some homeowners | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
to sell parts of their back gardens - | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
a strategy known as garden grabbing. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
Planner Rob Lindsey is dealing with the housing application | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
that could affect the badger setts. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
It's a proposal to put up nine detached houses | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
on a site which has been assembled from rear gardens. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
Developers are having to look at several different sites, | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
different ownerships, and assemble them into one development site. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
Even though they're gardens, the land is overgrown... | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
Looks good for badgers, doesn't it? | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
..which makes it the ideal home for badgers. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
Oh, look, a feeding bowl. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
Development near badgers has to take place | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
respecting the badgers and their habits, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
particularly their foraging habits because they have a main sett. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
They forage from that. And they have outlying setts. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
There are two or three of those on this site, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
so that's one of the major constraints. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
Construction is sometimes allowed near to badgers, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
but their setts are protected. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
Any harm to the animals can result in fines of up to £5,000 | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
and a possible prison sentence. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
There is scope for development, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
as long as the proper procedures are put in place | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
for keeping the main badger sett active | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
and allowing the badgers their normal foraging. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
It's a difficult balance. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
Some people living nearby don't want any disruption | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
and have written in to object to the housing plans. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
Oh, I love them. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
If I saw anybody doing anything wrong, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
I'd be very, very cross. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
When the wildlife reports come in, | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
the planners will decide whether the badgers must make way | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
for the new housing. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
In Cheshire, objectors to the proposed crematorium | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
are getting organised. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
They've formed a committee | 0:15:39 | 0:15:40 | |
and even appointed a PR officer to fight against developers Memoria - | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
dress shop owner Rosemarie Teece. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
I put together a newsletter for the villagers to look at, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
and I did some little scenarios about what would happen | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
if a child's crossing the road and there's an accident, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
because, you know, he's not looked both ways. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
And what would happen if, you know, | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
you can't sell your house for three years. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
The questions that children are going to be asking. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
"Why is that black car driving so slowly, Mummy? What's in that box in the back? Where are they going? | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
"What are they going to be doing with it down there? | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
"Why has it got flowers on it?" You know, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
"Will I do that with my hamster when he dies?" | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
You know, these sort of things that... | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
Children are going to be asking these questions, | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
and their parents have got to have the answers for them. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
Memoria have thrust death on our children without any option. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
It's life-changing for the villages. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
It completely changes a quiet, rural village into... | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
We don't like to think about what. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
In their mind's eye, when they know there's going to be | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
a crematorium built, they don't see this. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
They see black smoke pouring out of | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
these brick chimneys that are going to destroy their property values. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
Just not true. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
It's the big taboo subject. We're frightened of death, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
and that's why we either have to treat it like Dracula | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
or treat it as if it's a comedy. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
This'll be interesting. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
Planner Judith Gordon is visiting the local | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
council-run crematorium in Warrington. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
She'll make a recommendation on Memoria's proposal, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
but she needs to understand the likely environmental impact | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
of a new crematorium in Cheshire. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
There seem to be a lot of myths about crematoriums | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
and about what happens to bodies and whose remains you get and so on, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
so I think it's really important to understand the complexity | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
of the service that's provided. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
-He's paying his respects now, the minister. -Yes. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
He will then, in a moment, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:34 | |
make his way to this door here, as we said before. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
MUSIC: Barwick Green (Theme To The Archers) | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
Ah, they like The Archers, then. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
Each year, the crematorium handles 2,000 services. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
On average, you're looking about 18 minutes per cremation. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
-Wow. -OK? | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
Warrington crematorium is more than twice the size | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
of the one proposed in Cheshire. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
As well as considering traffic and landscape, | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
Judith has to look at the possible impact | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
of the incinerator on the atmosphere. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
This is the operational side of things, OK? | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
On completion of the cremation process, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
the remains will then drop down into here, OK? | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
Once they're cooled sufficiently, the remains are then taken from here | 0:18:22 | 0:18:27 | |
-to the transfer cabinet, which is this here. -OK. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
This is a magnet that you'll gently run through the remains. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
And that magnet will then kind of extract | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
any metal objects, any pins, OK? | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
-So, you'll have things like kneecaps or hip joints... -Yeah. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
..and things like that which will come out in whole pieces? | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
-Yeah, you will physically see those. -OK. -OK? | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
This feels very sort of clinical, I think. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
To actually follow the process, it's dispelled a lot of myths. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:54 | |
If you want to look in there, Judith, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:55 | |
you'll actually see now that there's very little left in there now. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
It's not a kind of upsetting thing at all. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
You couldn't actually identify that there had been a body in there | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
or that it was the remains of a body. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
I always wanted to be buried. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
It was my personal theory that I came into this world with two arms, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
-two legs and a head, and I'd want to go out the same way. -Yeah. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
But after seeing this process, there's dignity in this. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
There's cleanliness in this. You know, there's... | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
-You know, you can take somebody away. -Yeah. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
So, I'm now beginning to rethink this | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
and thinking, "Well, perhaps cremation is the way forward." | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
You know? | 0:19:31 | 0:19:32 | |
Judith has eight weeks to make her recommendation, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
but she won't have the final say. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
That'll be down to the 11 elected members | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
of Cheshire West's planning committee. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
In the village of Birtle, near Rochdale, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
there's an application to build four log cabins on green belt land. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
Colin Burrell and his friend Mark Harrington | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
are off to see what the log cabins could look like | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
if they get permission. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
Oh, it's a beautiful setting. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
Now, anybody that says they don't like this, Colin, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
bloomin' heck, there's something wrong with them. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
These 11 cabins near Bradford in Yorkshire | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
are rented out to holiday-makers for up to £170 a night. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
Wipe your feet. Look at that. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:26 | |
-So, there you go. -Yeah, it's very nice. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
I'd recommend it for an 'oliday here. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
A little wood-burning stove there in the corner. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
Ooh, I'd be asleep the whole time. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
-Hey! -King of the castle, eh? -HE LAUGHS | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
This is very nice. Very nice. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
-Ooh, you've got a thing. -Yeah, that's your steam room, isn't it? | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
-Oh, no, no. What do you call it? -Sauna. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
-They throw water on. -A sauna. -A what? -A sauna. -Sauna! -Sauna. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
If the log cabins are built in Birtle, | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
they will stand on wooden stilts and won't need foundations. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
Even so, the locals don't want any development on the green belt. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:09 | |
The people who don't want us to do this in Birtle, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
if you brought them over here and said... | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
Hired a coach and said, "Just come and have a look at this. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
"Now tell me you don't want it. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:18 | |
"Tell me it's not going to be nice," or whatever. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
-I don't know. -I can't fault them. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
Back in Birtle, planner Rebecca Coley needs to work out | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
if the cabins would harm the trees and threaten the green belt. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:32 | |
We have a tourism officer and he has written a letter | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
saying that he would support log cabins | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
in this part of the borough. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
But that doesn't outweigh the fact that it's in the green belt. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
There are... There are other sites. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
There are fundamentally two issues here. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
There's the principle of the development in the green belt. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
Is it appropriate or inappropriate? | 0:21:48 | 0:21:49 | |
And then there's the issue of the protected trees, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
which would be the case whether this site was in the green belt or not. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:57 | |
I find it very difficult to comprehend | 0:21:57 | 0:21:58 | |
how they're going to get a log cabin on here | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
without some impact on that tree. The roots... | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
The roots are going to be out to at least here, if not further. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
And if you dig down and hit tree roots, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
then you damage those trees, and those trees are likely to die. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
Rebecca will need to see evidence that Colin and Mark can deliver | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
the cabins without damaging the environment. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
-There you go, Mr Burrell. Let's take a seat, sir. -Right, OK. Thank you. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
-Look at that. -Take a seat. Enjoy. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
Oh, yeah. It's just beefed me up even more now, seeing this. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
I really want to do it now. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
We should have brought a six-pack, Colin. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:31 | |
No, I'm not going the route of that. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
-Had enough on Saturday. -Did you? -HE CHUCKLES | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
Oh, God. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:37 | |
It isn't a particularly well-thought-out scheme, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
I don't think. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
So, there's a lot of detail, which just hasn't... | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
Doesn't seem to have been thought about, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
or has been thought about... | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
..and they know that they would have a detrimental impact, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
so they're trying to not mention it and hope that we don't notice. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
I always notice! Don't get very much past me. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
Hello. Can I speak to Rebecca, please? | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
-ON PHONE: -Yes, speaking. -Rebecca, it's Mark. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
When Colin and Mark read Rebecca's concerns, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
they decide on a conference call. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
There's no trees coming down at all. Not at any point. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
But there would be no way | 0:23:15 | 0:23:16 | |
of actually getting construction vehicles | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
or actually getting the log cabins into the site. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
Yeah, but we weren't really anticipating | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
putting any vehicles on the site. Just delivering the materials, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
and they would be carried by the workers. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
It all comes in pieces, you see. It doesn't come in sections. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
But how would we control that? | 0:23:30 | 0:23:31 | |
We can't be there to prevent your workers coming in | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
and taking those trees out and damaging those trees. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
And there's other issues with the ground levels and drainage | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
and hard and soft landscaping. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
-Yeah. -If you were to resubmit the application | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
with the necessary information, | 0:23:45 | 0:23:46 | |
-you may well be able to address those reasons. -OK. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
-Thanks very much, Rebecca. -Bye. -Thank you, bye. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
She's telling him, as a layman, saying, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
"Oh, yes, but you can't do this, you can't... | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
"We can't come back and watch the trees. We can't do that." | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
What a load of bunkum. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
I just got the impression that she didn't want it. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
Colin and Mark have an opportunity to submit more evidence | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
to convince Rebecca before she makes a final decision on the log cabins. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:16 | |
The planning process can be frustrating, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
but the consequences of ignoring it can be life-changing. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
On the banks of the River Dee in Cheshire sits Heron Lodge, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
home to Peter Johnson. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
We get prepared for the evening. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
Get our logs in, get our fire on, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
pour out the gin and tonic. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
73-year-old Peter bought his retirement home near Farndon | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
13 years ago. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:49 | |
It was built in the late 19th century | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
and was a holiday home | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
until he set about extending it and converting it for permanent use. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
This part of it was the original part | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
up to the brick pier that you see over on the left. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:07 | |
So, this was the original old cottage. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
It ticked all the boxes, as they say today. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
It gave me a home in the country. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
It wasn't expensive. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
It needed a lot of work, so I could put my stamp on it. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
It was my retirement home. That's why I chose it. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
But Peter always knew that Heron Lodge wasn't perfect. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
The problems with the river, really, is that | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
it will come over its bank | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
and just literally flood the whole of the area. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
You would not believe the volume of water | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
that empties out onto this flood plain. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
Peter had a solution to the flooding. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
He got permission to use jacks to raise his house 6ft, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
lifting it out of the flood plain. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
The cottage was at the same level as the lane out there. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:57 | |
We dragged RSJs underneath the building - four of them - | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
sat them on jacks, | 0:26:00 | 0:26:01 | |
and literally jacked the old girl up an inch at a time. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
Probably a little bit crackers. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:07 | |
I think my kids would probably have me locked up | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
for taking the whole project on in the first place! | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
Peter had permission to raise the house on jacks, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
but filling in the land underneath it | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
and creating a small hill around the house needs separate permission, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:26 | |
and Peter has had it refused. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
Now the council's planning enforcement team are involved. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
I like the idea, in a way, of living next to a river | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
and living a sort of Wind In The Willows-type lifestyle. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
But it would certainly make life very, very difficult, I think, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
having to put up with regular floods every year. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
The council has ordered the land around Heron Lodge | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
to be restored to its original level. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
The case is due to go to court, | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
but Nial wants to see if anything can be done. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
He has tried to gain planning permission | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
for numerous works carried out on the property, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
all of which have failed. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
The only one that he's been granted permission for | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
was raising the actual house itself. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
And it's just not an appropriate development | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
within a flood plain, unfortunately. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
The water has to go somewhere. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
And if you displace water from a flood plain, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:28 | |
then, in theory, someone else can get flooded as a result of that. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:33 | |
Peter has no permanent neighbours... | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
..but for the council, it's a point of principle. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
-Hi. Nial Casselden. -Hi, Nial. -Hi there. Hello. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
-Peter Johnson. -Hello. Good to meet you. -Good to meet you. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
I'm probably the wrong side of 70 to be living | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
right out in the country in isolation, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
but I don't want to give it up. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
Too much blood, sweat and tears, isn't it? | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
I can certainly understand, from both angles, | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
why it's got to this situation. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
So, I can appreciate why the works were carried out, | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
but I can also appreciate why the council might have felt | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
-that they had to take some kind of action. -Mm-hm. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:14 | |
-I suppose the question now is how it gets resolved. -Yeah. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:19 | |
Peter's refusing to remove the raised earth | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
that surrounds the house, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
so there's nothing Nial can do to prevent court action. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
I mean, in many ways, it's out of the planning department's hands now. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:31 | |
Cos they've obtained an injunction. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:32 | |
Yeah, it's headed off into the courts. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
It is sad cos you don't really want to see anyone | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
getting into this level of trouble, | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
but I think he did go into it with open eyes. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
He did get advice, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:48 | |
and he took the decision that he was going to do something different. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
I am an English bulldog. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
I just hate bureaucracy, | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
and I hate being told what I can do with my own property. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
An Englishman's home is supposed to be his castle. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
Having ignored the planners, Peter's fate lies in the courts, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
and he could lose Heron Lodge | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
if the council insist on recovering their legal costs. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
My whole life is poured into this project, | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
into this building and this home. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
After fighting the council for 12 years, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
all the money that I'd got, that's all gone. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:27 | |
I've got to this time in my life | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
and I've been licked by a bunch of bureaucrats, | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
which I never thought would ever happen to me. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
I could be homeless. I'd certainly be penniless. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
They'll have to take it from me. Yeah. Yeah. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
Welcome to Badger Towers, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
and if you follow me, I'll give you a little tour around. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
We can start with the sitting room. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
In Cheltenham, plans to build nine houses | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
on the site of a badger sett | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
have not gone down well with the neighbours, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
but they've found someone to lead their protest. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
One of our badgers is sitting down here, which is Uncle Ted, | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
and then there is Grandad Badger, who's an antique, in fact. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:24 | |
And Fritz, dressed in his German lederhosen. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
Peter Christensen has run | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
Badger Towers B&B for the last 13 years. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
That is Mr Badger. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
It's right next door to the development site. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
We have a link to the badgers, in a way, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
because of the name, of course. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
And we are very fond of the badgers and of the wildlife in this area. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:48 | |
The badgers have been there for a long time. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
They are a protected species, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
and therefore should be treated with respect. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
Mr Badger will fight it to the end. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
But since the objections were lodged, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
Peter and the other neighbours have started to suspect foul deeds. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
You can see across there, there's a bit of overgrown land there, | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
and the badger setts are in there. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
And so it's difficult to keep an eye | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
on what's happening to the badgers, of course, | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
cos people can interfere with them without anybody easily finding out. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:24 | |
White smoke has been seen rising above the badger sett. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:29 | |
There was an attempt, I understand, | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
that somebody was trying to smoke them out, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
and the police were called and unblocked the sett. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
They didn't actually find any individuals, | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
so you can't really point your finger at anybody, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
but they did come and unblock it, apparently. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
These suspicions come as no surprise | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
to the developer's agent Simon Firkins. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
You can see here that one of the existing homeowners | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
has been clearing hedge trimmings and things like that, | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
and having a bonfire on their own site, | 0:31:56 | 0:31:57 | |
which they are perfectly entitled to do. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
And that could be a very, very simple explanation for the smoke | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
that some of the local residents say they've seen coming from the site. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
Simon's job is to make sure the nine houses get permission | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
and the developers don't fall foul of wildlife laws. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
OK. Well, here we are... | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
..in a different part of the site. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:26 | |
You can't really see very much because it's so overgrown, | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
but, basically, the main area of badger activity | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
is in that part of the site just there. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
And we've employed a specialist ecologist | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
to demonstrate, as part of the application, | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
that we're not going to hopefully do the badgers any harm at all, | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
and what we've got on the plans is a badger exclusion zone. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
The main sett is within this zone here | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
and so what's showing by this blue dotted line | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
is basically an exclusion zone | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
where we can't develop in | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
or even have any private garden areas in. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
That is the zone that's going to be set aside | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
for badgers to use as they wish. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
Obviously, it's in my client's best interests | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
to deal with the badgers on-site | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
in absolutely the correct and proper way. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
I don't think they care. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
I think what they're doing in this particular plan | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
is paying lip service to the badger population and nothing more. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
The amended layout and provision of a construction-free badger zone | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
means the planners are happy, so the houses can go ahead. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
You've got to listen to what | 0:33:31 | 0:33:32 | |
the experts on wildlife have to say about it, | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
and we've had the submitted ecologist's scheme, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
which says that the badgers can be accommodated with the development. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:43 | |
So, I think you've got to be objective and set aside | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
the emotional side of furry creatures. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
There are specific regulations that cover disturbance | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
of a protected species habitat, and this scheme complies with that. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:58 | |
But the number of objections means this application won't be decided | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
by Rob and the planners alone. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
It'll go before a committee where the elected councillors will decide. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
In Cheshire, the application to build a private crematorium | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
is about to be considered by the planning committee members, | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
among them retired farmer Norman Wright, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
who lives with his wife June six miles from the proposed site. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
He can be very busy, but, erm, | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
it's worth it. It seems worth it. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
-You feel as if it's worth doing it, don't you? -Yeah. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
Worthwhile. You'd never get any thanks, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
but you don't expect any thanks. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
I think he's a very good counsellor. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:50 | |
I like helping people, and try and sort their problems out. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
-Don't we? -Yes. -Yeah. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
Norman's been on the planning committee for ten years, | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
including a spell as chairman. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
We have to read the reports, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
and you have to make that decision, which is very hard sometimes. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
-Norman's tough. -SHE LAUGHS | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
The crematorium plans are controversial, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
but Norman and the committee | 0:35:19 | 0:35:20 | |
will have the officer's advice to guide them. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
Planner Judith Gordon has made her recommendation. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
I have recommended approval of the application. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
We've had to consider all the details of the application, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
the impact on highways, particularly, | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
and also whether it's appropriate | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
to put a crematorium on a greenfield site. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
There is a need for new crematoria | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
in that particular part of the borough, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
and the need should override any policy objection | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
that there is about it being on a greenfield site. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
Back in the village, Judith's report is a setback for the objectors. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:02 | |
-Disappointed, really. -Very. -Very disappointed. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
There was one phrase that she quoted, which I noted down. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
She said, "It will not cause unacceptable harm." | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
So, therefore, the corollary of that is it WILL cause acceptable harm. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:17 | |
And I do... I just feel disappointed. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
But it's the councillors that will make the decision. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
Yes, that's the hope. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:23 | |
-I mean, we haven't lost yet. -We haven't lost yet. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
Before they vote on the private crematorium, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
the committee visit the site with a member of the planning team. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
The site's actually on the other side of this hedgerow now. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
The entrance involves the removal | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
of 20m of hedgerow, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
but none of the trees would actually come out. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
And, actually, it's on a good, straight stretch of road, | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
so as vehicles turn in and out, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:53 | |
-there's a good view from both directions. -There is. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
There is good visibility in both directions. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
-It certainly meets the standards for visibility. -Yeah. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
We believe that we have the planning arguments at this site | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
to go ahead, which is why we're here. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
We are very careful to make sure that, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
when we have chosen a site, | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
that it will comply with all of the things | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
that we know it needs to comply with. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
I mean, you could say that a planning application | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
will cost £100,000, | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
so, I mean, if you lose one, you've lost £100,000. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:28 | |
But support from the planning officer | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
is no guarantee the application will succeed. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
Councillors can weigh up all opinions put before them. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
You can't make a decision. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
You've got to listen to all the arguments | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
before you make a decision. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
It's like being on a jury, where, in fact, | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
you would not expect the jurors to have come to a decision | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
before they've heard all the evidence. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
I have been asked by local residents to take you up | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
and drive through Lostock Green and see the access. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
"Don't wreck our village." | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
-That's why they want us to come down here. -Yes. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
To see this sign. "No crematorium." | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
But you can understand it. There's a lot more traffic. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
I mean, one has to sympathise, even if one doesn't always agree. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
When the bus returns to the council offices, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
the villagers will find out if their protests have struck a chord, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
and Memoria will find out if it's £100,000 well spent. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:34 | |
You just have to wait, and that's probably the hardest bit. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
At least it isn't a wind farm. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
In Birtle, near Rochdale, a decision has been made | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
on the application to build four log cabins on the green belt. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:55 | |
Planner Rebecca Coley has posted the decision online | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
for applicants Mark Harrington and Colin Burrell to read. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
I would expect yes | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
because it's making the area better, whatever anybody says. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
It is going to make the area better. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
And it'll look nice. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
Decision. There's the decision. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
That's the little chap we want. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
Right, OK. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
On the heading there, "Rochdale Council, | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
"Metropolitan Borough Council, refusal of planning permission." | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
So, they have refused it. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
The reasons. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:31 | |
Right. "The site lies within the Greater Manchester green belt, | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
"where the erection of new buildings is inappropriate development." | 0:39:34 | 0:39:39 | |
It's not green belt. It's next to a pub. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:40 | |
It's like the centre of the village. People object. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
No matter what you tell them, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:45 | |
they can object, and they will object. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
The applicant hasn't demonstrated that the works could proceed | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
without having to lose some of those trees. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
-They're not going to go near the trees. -No, but there's roots. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
Yeah, roots. I've got more trees on my land than they've got there! | 0:39:58 | 0:40:03 | |
There are eight reasons for refusal. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
It is a lot. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
Normally, there'd only be one or two, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
but there are a lot of issues with this site. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
They've taken a chance and it's not worked out. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
Clearly, it's something which can't be supported in the green belt. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
There was only ever going to be one conclusion, really, for this one. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
In Birtle, it's welcome news for Patricia Sullivan, | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
leader of the group opposing development in the village. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
Fantastic. I'm so happy. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
Really happy. I need to go for a drink very soon. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
What time is it? It's early. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
In Cheshire, the River Dee has burst its banks | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
for the ninth time in 12 months. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
Peter Johnson's home is now surrounded by floodwater, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
and he's using his boat and waders to get to and from Heron Lodge. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:09 | |
You need the fridge and the freezer and the cupboards stocked up, | 0:41:11 | 0:41:15 | |
plenty of gin and tonic in, and live with it, you know. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
If it takes three or four days a year | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
of a little bit of difficulty with the boat, | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
it's worth it to live out in a place like this. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
Despite the flood, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:31 | |
the house is high and dry, and that's the problem. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
Peter had permission to raise the house on jacks, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
but he's been told to remove the soil that he banked up around it. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
He ignored enforcement notices | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
telling him to restore the land to its previous levels. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
Hello, Justin. Are you all right? | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
If the levels were restored, the house would be left on stilts. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
Yeah, if you comply with the enforcement notices, | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
you'll finish up with an uninhabitable dwelling | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
that will be totally wrecked. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
I don't think there's any common sense | 0:42:00 | 0:42:02 | |
in terms of making a compromise with Chester Council. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:06 | |
Now the council also wants £50,000 | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
to cover enforcement action and legal costs. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
It's money Peter says he hasn't got, | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
so they're considering seizing his home. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
It is absolutely stupid. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:22 | |
And all I've done is protected my home from flooding. Eh? | 0:42:22 | 0:42:27 | |
Does it make any sense? None of it makes any sense. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
-British justice, eh? -HE SCOFFS | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
There you go. C'est la vie. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
Peter's feud with Chester Council has been going on for 13 years, | 0:42:42 | 0:42:47 | |
but it could be about to end. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
It's escalated and escalated over the years | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
because he's maintained his unwillingness | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
to do anything to mitigate | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
the harm that he's caused, and, similarly, | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
the council has been unwilling to let the matter drop. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
There will have to be some kind of resolution, one way or another. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
It's really just whether that involves | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
his cooperation or otherwise. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
When the floodwaters subside, Peter's off to the civil courts | 0:43:14 | 0:43:18 | |
to see if he can reach a settlement with the council's lawyers. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:22 | |
For Peter, it's about much more than just planning. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
It's an English trait, isn't it, to triumph against adversity? | 0:43:27 | 0:43:32 | |
I mean, Scott to the Antarctic, Hunt up the Himalayas. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:37 | |
You know, there's so much of English heritage and English history | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
based in people triumphing against adversity. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:45 | |
If I triumph against Chester - I don't think I will - | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
but I'm going to do my darnedest to get these blighters on the hook | 0:43:48 | 0:43:52 | |
and expose them for what they are - | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
an evil bunch of bureaucrats. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:56 | |
The rules are there for a reason | 0:44:03 | 0:44:04 | |
and the enforcement notices were upheld by inspectors. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:07 | |
They've also been through court, and judges have agreed | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
with the stance that the council has taken, | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
so we're completely correct in the approach to this particular case. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:18 | |
We can't just let matters drop | 0:44:19 | 0:44:20 | |
because they become complicated or long-winded. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
We don't like serving notices | 0:44:23 | 0:44:25 | |
and we don't like sending the bulldozers in, | 0:44:25 | 0:44:27 | |
but we have to have teeth. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
The court hearing takes 40 minutes. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
Peter is told by the judge to enter arbitration with the council | 0:44:32 | 0:44:36 | |
and find a way to repay the money | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
and restore the ground around Heron Lodge. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
The judge ordered that there should be, in the first, | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
an attempt to negotiate a settlement to the matter, | 0:44:45 | 0:44:48 | |
so we can get round the table and talk. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:51 | |
Hopefully, this'll be the start of the end, if that's the right phrase. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:55 | |
I don't know. I'm hoping so. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
One way or another, sooner rather than later, | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
Mr Johnson is going to have to comply. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:05 | |
Hopefully, we can do that through cooperation and negotiation, | 0:45:05 | 0:45:09 | |
but if that's not possible, then, yes, we will have to consider | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
perhaps more drastic options for achieving compliance. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:15 | |
But it will have to happen. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:17 | |
In Cheltenham, the planning committee has arrived | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
at the site of the badger sett | 0:45:36 | 0:45:37 | |
where developers want to build nine houses. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:40 | |
They're going to be quite a challenge to visualise | 0:45:40 | 0:45:43 | |
through this lot, isn't it? | 0:45:43 | 0:45:45 | |
The plot is unused land at the end of people's gardens. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
There's a sett there and a sett there. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:52 | |
That X marks a sett. These are outlier setts. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:54 | |
This is the main sett. It's the main sett that will be kept. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:58 | |
The land may be overgrown, | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
but it's an ideal site for the family of badgers | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
that make regular trips into their neighbours' gardens. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:06 | |
-They're going to close one of those two setts... -And keep them...? | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
..and then reopen that one and this one remains open. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
-Are they legally able...? -So, this is the principal... | 0:46:12 | 0:46:14 | |
Yes, absolutely. This is badger legislation. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:16 | |
-OK. -Wildlife legislation. -I know. -A very, very strict procedure. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:21 | |
We've got six members of the planning committee. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:26 | |
-If you want to come through... -OK. Would you like to follow me? | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
Roger Malvern and some of the other neighbours | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
regularly feed the badgers. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:33 | |
He's hoping videos of the badgers will persuade the councillors | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
to veto the housing plans. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
Can I break ranks and ask what you feed them on? | 0:46:39 | 0:46:42 | |
-Oh, just some birds nuts. -Ah. -We just throw out a few. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:45 | |
Cos we threw out a few for the birds and along came the badgers! | 0:46:45 | 0:46:49 | |
The planning officers support the scheme, | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
but the final decision will be made by the 11 elected councillors. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:57 | |
Well, I'm pleased that the setts are going to be protected | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
and I'm sure the badgers are. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
I'm torn two ways. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:05 | |
I have to say, it was so difficult to see anything there. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
at the moment, it's a natural wilderness | 0:47:08 | 0:47:11 | |
and anything you do there is going to disturb the balance | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
of the wildlife there. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:16 | |
In all honesty, I'm heavily into animal protection | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
first and foremost, but this is a planning application, | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
so everything has to be taken into account. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
Opponents of the developers also claim | 0:47:29 | 0:47:31 | |
the scheme will affect traffic and involve the loss of green space, | 0:47:31 | 0:47:35 | |
but it's the badgers that are their main concern. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:39 | |
Well, I've been doing as much research as I can | 0:47:39 | 0:47:42 | |
in relation to which areas this application fails to satisfy, | 0:47:42 | 0:47:47 | |
and it seems to me there are quite a few. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
I believe in justice and democracy and fairness. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:55 | |
The council turned down an application, | 0:47:55 | 0:47:57 | |
somewhat similar to this one, four years ago. | 0:47:57 | 0:48:00 | |
I can see no reason why they shouldn't do it again. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:03 | |
With a speech prepared, Peter will present his arguments | 0:48:11 | 0:48:14 | |
to the members of the planning committee. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
They will have the final say on the development. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
Thank you, members. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
I ask Mr Peter Christensen to speak in objection. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:28 | |
Does this thing turn on or...? | 0:48:28 | 0:48:30 | |
-Just there. -Thank you. Is that better? | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
You have three minutes, Mr Christensen. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:35 | |
The plot has an active badger sett | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
and the measures in the proposed plan for protecting badgers | 0:48:38 | 0:48:41 | |
do not appear sufficient. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:43 | |
There are many other species of wildlife present on the site, | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
and also traffic, and health and safety, | 0:48:46 | 0:48:48 | |
are further serious issues. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:50 | |
We therefore urge the committee to refuse this application. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you very much. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:55 | |
I'll now ask Mr Simon Firkins to speak in support of the application. | 0:48:56 | 0:49:02 | |
Thank you, chairman, members. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
This proposal does not result in undue harm to on-site ecology, | 0:49:04 | 0:49:09 | |
neighbouring amenity, highway safety, | 0:49:09 | 0:49:11 | |
or the character of the locality. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:13 | |
Much of the site is unkempt | 0:49:13 | 0:49:15 | |
and it is good to make use of these sites within the town, | 0:49:15 | 0:49:18 | |
rather than building on greenfield sites elsewhere. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:21 | |
I'm afraid I can't see that there's any justifiable reason | 0:49:21 | 0:49:24 | |
for refusing consent | 0:49:24 | 0:49:25 | |
and I therefore ask you to support the recommendation | 0:49:25 | 0:49:27 | |
and grant permission. Thank you for your time. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:30 | |
Thank you very much. I'll ask Councillor McLain to address us. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:34 | |
The local councillor has decided to speak against the development | 0:49:34 | 0:49:38 | |
on the grounds that gardens should not be taken for housing. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:42 | |
I mean, I've heard it just said | 0:49:43 | 0:49:45 | |
that by permitting these garden-grab developments - | 0:49:45 | 0:49:47 | |
this one in particular - | 0:49:47 | 0:49:49 | |
we will somehow reduce the pressure of new housing numbers. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
I mean, that is simply, clearly, demonstrably, palpably rubbish. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:56 | |
All it will guarantee is the sacrifice | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
of our few remaining urban green heartlands. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:02 | |
If this development goes ahead, it will be irrevocably lost. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:07 | |
But before the vote, the meeting is postponed | 0:50:08 | 0:50:11 | |
for more environmental impact reports. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:14 | |
That is deferred to get further advice | 0:50:14 | 0:50:17 | |
from the Environment Agency. Thank you. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:19 | |
We may not like it, | 0:50:23 | 0:50:24 | |
we may not think it's the best development in the world, | 0:50:24 | 0:50:27 | |
but there's isn't a valid reason to turn it down, as I can see. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:30 | |
The reports show no evidence of further harm, | 0:50:30 | 0:50:32 | |
so when everyone returns, it's straight down to the vote. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
All those in favour of permit. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:37 | |
That is unanimous. Thank you. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
The plans are passed unanimously. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:50 | |
-Well done, Peter. Thank you. -Thank you very much. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
The gardens are gone. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
The badgers will lose some of their setts, | 0:50:55 | 0:50:57 | |
but they will be protected in law. | 0:50:57 | 0:51:00 | |
They didn't seem to be interested in the wildlife aspect at all. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
You know, we have very few green spaces, | 0:51:03 | 0:51:06 | |
and just to ignore that seems, to me, quite shocking. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:10 | |
I was happy that the badgers will coexist with the development. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
I think the ecological appraisal demonstrated that very clearly. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:18 | |
I think that one has been resolved. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
When you turn round that corner, | 0:51:30 | 0:51:31 | |
my God, it just looks as though there's a funeral. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
-Yeah, I just said that. -Yeah, just black. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:36 | |
It's the day of judgment in Lach Dennis and Lostock Green. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:43 | |
Well, we think we should give them a taste of what's to come for us. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:46 | |
CAR HORN HONKS | 0:51:46 | 0:51:48 | |
The villagers are dressing in black | 0:51:48 | 0:51:50 | |
to attend the planning committee meeting | 0:51:50 | 0:51:52 | |
that will decide whether to build a private crematorium | 0:51:52 | 0:51:55 | |
in a nearby field. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:56 | |
Thank you so much. Bless you for that. | 0:51:56 | 0:51:59 | |
Now we're on the way, | 0:52:00 | 0:52:02 | |
I'd say more buoyed than we were in the last week. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
We just have to go with it and see what happens. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
If common sense prevails, it will be turned down. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:12 | |
But as soon as they arrive at Winsford Council Chamber, | 0:52:16 | 0:52:19 | |
they run into a problem. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
We were coming with a 57-seater bus with all our supporters | 0:52:22 | 0:52:26 | |
who have supported us through thick and thin over the last six months | 0:52:26 | 0:52:29 | |
and now we've just been told they can't go in. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:31 | |
-We're told that there's only room for five. -Five people! | 0:52:31 | 0:52:35 | |
Months and months of hard work has gone into this. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
-Absolutely ridiculous. -We need to have the presence there | 0:52:38 | 0:52:41 | |
to show the councillors what the support is. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
I am fizzing mad. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
With so many protesters, | 0:52:46 | 0:52:48 | |
council staff change the order of the meeting and create enough room | 0:52:48 | 0:52:52 | |
for the villagers to make their presence felt. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:54 | |
So, she said, "Open the doors and come in." | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
It's extremely difficult for local people. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
They very much want to convince | 0:52:58 | 0:53:00 | |
that they are right | 0:53:00 | 0:53:02 | |
and that decisions should be made according to their views. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:06 | |
Judith has recommended the plans be approved, | 0:53:06 | 0:53:10 | |
but the councillors have the power to go against her opinion. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:13 | |
I think they feel that a committee may be more democratic | 0:53:15 | 0:53:19 | |
because they have elected councillors to represent them, | 0:53:19 | 0:53:23 | |
therefore, they feel that | 0:53:23 | 0:53:24 | |
the councillors should take account of their views | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
and that that should perhaps sometimes override | 0:53:26 | 0:53:29 | |
the objectiveness of planning policy. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:33 | |
I welcome you all to this meeting of | 0:53:33 | 0:53:35 | |
the Cheshire West and Chester Strategic Planning Committee. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:39 | |
First, the objectors get their chance. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
The planning officer's report suggests this development | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
will not cause unacceptable harm. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
By definition, this means it will cause acceptable harm. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:53 | |
How can anyone truly judge what is acceptable harm, | 0:53:53 | 0:53:57 | |
other than the village residents themselves? | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
We are not against change in our locality, | 0:54:00 | 0:54:03 | |
but it has to be change for the benefit of the local community, | 0:54:03 | 0:54:07 | |
rather than an out-of-area developer. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:10 | |
This is about a development | 0:54:11 | 0:54:13 | |
to which most residents strongly object. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:17 | |
We hope that you agree with us and reject this application. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:20 | |
-Thank you for listening. -Thank you very much indeed. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:25 | |
Next, it's the turn of developers Memoria. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:28 | |
They've spent over £100,000 on the application. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:32 | |
Past experience has taught us | 0:54:32 | 0:54:33 | |
that this level of opposition is not uncommon, | 0:54:33 | 0:54:35 | |
given the perception of crematoria development in this country. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:39 | |
However, in all of our previous applications, | 0:54:39 | 0:54:41 | |
if we've been given the right to go ahead, | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
we've never received one letter of objection from the local community. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:47 | |
Quite the opposite, in fact. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:48 | |
With our beautiful gardens and landscaping, | 0:54:48 | 0:54:50 | |
we've found that we've become a source of pride for the local area. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:53 | |
There'll be no smoke, no smell, | 0:54:53 | 0:54:55 | |
and the visual impact with the landscaping plan will be minimal, | 0:54:55 | 0:55:00 | |
but the benefit to the wider community will be significant. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:02 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you very much. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:04 | |
Right, I open it up to debate from committee members. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:09 | |
Now it's down to the councillors to make up their minds. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:12 | |
Thank you, chairman. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:13 | |
They need to balance the planners' recommendation | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
with the views of the villagers. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:18 | |
It's a very emotive and emotional issue, this, | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
because it's people's lives and it's people's villages. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
To be honest, I've looked really carefully at this application | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
and I can't find a really good planning reason | 0:55:27 | 0:55:32 | |
for rejecting this application, chairman. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:34 | |
I'll just rest my case at that. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:35 | |
There are not sufficient good reasons | 0:55:37 | 0:55:40 | |
to overturn policy and lose good agricultural land. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:45 | |
This is not a service that can only be met at that site, | 0:55:45 | 0:55:49 | |
therefore I move that we refuse this application. Thank you. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:53 | |
-I'll second that. -APPLAUSE | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
After an hour's debate, | 0:56:00 | 0:56:01 | |
the councillors vote on a proposal to refuse the application, | 0:56:01 | 0:56:05 | |
on the grounds that it's inappropriate on agricultural land. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:08 | |
Right, it's been proposed and seconded | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
that this application be refused. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
All those in favour, please show. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:16 | |
Any against? | 0:56:19 | 0:56:21 | |
Two. Seven-two. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:24 | |
So, the application is refused for the reason... | 0:56:24 | 0:56:28 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
Yes! People power! | 0:56:38 | 0:56:40 | |
That's what it's all about - people power. Fantastic! | 0:56:40 | 0:56:45 | |
It's disappointing. Very disappointing. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:50 | |
We, obviously, on the back of a very strong planning report, | 0:56:50 | 0:56:54 | |
were expecting for the committee to support that. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:57 | |
We will have to have another look, | 0:56:57 | 0:57:00 | |
and if that leads us to an appeal, | 0:57:00 | 0:57:02 | |
then we will have to go down that road. | 0:57:02 | 0:57:04 | |
That was the best outcome ever. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:06 | |
And I know there'll probably be an appeal, | 0:57:06 | 0:57:09 | |
but we'll be ready for them. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:10 | |
I thought the right decision was made on this occasion. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:13 | |
I think the access is not very good | 0:57:13 | 0:57:16 | |
and I think they need to come back with some modifications | 0:57:16 | 0:57:19 | |
to the planning application. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:21 | |
News of the victory soon reaches the village. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:27 | |
That's like Crewe versus Manchester United, isn't it? | 0:57:29 | 0:57:32 | |
Crewe win seven-two. | 0:57:32 | 0:57:35 | |
If you want to influence the council, | 0:57:36 | 0:57:39 | |
-dress up in black. -HE CHUCKLES | 0:57:39 | 0:57:42 | |
Hedgehog, flat. | 0:57:47 | 0:57:49 | |
Next time on The Planners... | 0:57:53 | 0:57:56 | |
The first one will be in this field. It starts there and it runs | 0:57:56 | 0:57:59 | |
in a straight line of four parallel to the railway line. | 0:57:59 | 0:58:01 | |
..a former New Age traveller's dream for a greener future | 0:58:01 | 0:58:05 | |
is a castle-owner's nightmare... | 0:58:05 | 0:58:07 | |
I wake up in the night, screaming my head off, | 0:58:07 | 0:58:10 | |
and my wife says, "What's the matter?" | 0:58:10 | 0:58:12 | |
"Wind turbines!" I say. | 0:58:12 | 0:58:14 | |
..double the trouble for the businessman | 0:58:14 | 0:58:16 | |
who wants to extend his cafe... | 0:58:16 | 0:58:18 | |
We think they've chosen to lose the plot. | 0:58:18 | 0:58:23 | |
..and a stairway to nowhere leaves these homeowners frustrated. | 0:58:23 | 0:58:28 | |
-The builders advertised it as gently sloping rear gardens, yeah? -Yeah. | 0:58:28 | 0:58:34 |