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In America, 80,000 prisoners are locked up in solitary confinement. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:12 | |
They spend months, sometimes years, alone. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
This place is like an insane asylum. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
Thoughts of suicide come a lot. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
This film goes inside the punishment wing of a maximum security prison. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
You can't get yourself wound up, cos you can't leave that room. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:36 | |
It's home to violent criminals | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
and to young prisoners on the brink of madness. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
It's like being buried alive. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
But this prison has a new boss | 0:00:44 | 0:00:45 | |
who thinks solitary confinement is making inmates more dangerous. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:50 | |
Most people would say if you punish 'em, you make 'em better. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
The reality is the exact opposite happens. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
I will kill one of your inmates. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:57 | |
This is the story of one man's effort | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
to reform a supermax prison... | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
'You can have them do their whole time in segregation.' | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
But I don't want them living next to me when you release them. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
..and to rehabilitate some of America's most dangerous criminals. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:13 | |
I'll try to be normal again. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
In the state of Maine, on America's north-east coast, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
is a maximum security prison. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
It's home to the worst prisoners in the state. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
It's a dangerous place. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
Four inmates have been murdered here in the last five years, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
and assaults on prison staff are frequent. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
The segregation unit is the prison within the prison. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
Inmates here spend 23 hours a day in their cells. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
They get an hour of exercise in a cage. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
Some are here long term | 0:02:23 | 0:02:24 | |
because they're judged too dangerous to be around other people. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
Some are here for their own protection. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
And some are here as punishment for disruptive behaviour. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
I'm Adam Brulotte, 102817. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
I've been in prison since November 28th of 2012. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
I broke a kid's jaw in seven places with one punch. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
That landed me an aggravated assault. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
That one punch landed me in here. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
Adam Brulotte is 21. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
His crimes on the outside are low-level. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
He's doing 18 months for assault after a fight at a party. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
But in prison, he's a disruptive and volatile inmate. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
He's just tried to attack an officer, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
so he's been sent to segregation, or "seg", as the inmates call it. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:21 | |
'I just went overboard, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:22 | |
'freaked out, starting punching stuff, threw chairs, screaming, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
'and I got Maced and tackled.' | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
And they're trying to say I started a riot. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
'I've been down here two days now.' | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
Well, it's good to my standards! | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
And I'm always at this window, so I like the window to be clean. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
My face touches it and my hands touch it. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
'I like seg. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
'I can handle being locked down 23 hours a day, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
'cos I can read, I can write, I can do push-ups. Most time I just chill.' | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
You got to relax. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:52 | |
You can't get yourself wound up, cos you can't leave that room. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
Yeah, it sucks. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
But I think I'm doing good. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
Brulotte faces three months in solitary. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
It promises to be a gruelling experience. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
HOWLING | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:04:18 | 0:04:19 | |
BANGING, SCREECHING | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
It's Friday night on the solitary unit. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
Some of these inmates have been locked up in here for months, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
even years. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
Almost every night, they mount a protest. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
They've flooded their cells | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
and poured bodily fluids under the doors. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
Some have managed to smuggle in razor blades. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
Now one inmate has covered his window so the officers can't see in. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
Kidd? | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
Kidd, you need to cuff up. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:25 | |
The officers think the inmate may have been self-harming, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
cutting himself. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
I have three windows covered. One of them appears to be self-abusive. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
'I attempted to look through the tray slot | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
'to see if I could get a visual on him, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:38 | |
'and he's got it covered with a mattress.' | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
If I can't see him from the back window, we have to go in | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
and take him out for his own safety. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
Inmates are forbidden from covering their windows in the solitary unit. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
They could be bleeding to death, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:52 | |
or it could be a trick to lure the officers in and assault them. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
He's got it all covered. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
So now we have to pull him out. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
Right, gents, we better get ready to rock'n'roll. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
611 A2, do you have a large fox? | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
The officers often have to forcibly extract inmates from their cells. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:17 | |
Any questions at this time? | 0:06:17 | 0:06:18 | |
We're ready to go and do a cell extraction. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
BANGING | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
SCREAMING | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
All cell extractions are filmed, in case prisoners later try to sue. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
Monsters! | 0:06:44 | 0:06:45 | |
This is what they create in here, monsters. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
And then they drop you into society | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
and tell you, "Go ahead, be a good boy". | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
You can't conduct yourself like a human being | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
when they treat you like an animal. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
Nights like this are routine in the solitary unit. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
Officers regularly use pepper spray | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
to extract self-harming inmates from their cells. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
This place is like an insane asylum. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
I don't know how many times I've seen this tier filled with blood | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
from these guys cutting their arms and their necks, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
all types of crazy...craziness, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
and that's because they're stuck in here with nothing to do. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
Gordon Perry is doing life without parole | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
for murdering a police officer. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
He's in solitary for stabbing another inmate with a screwdriver. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
He's been here for more than a year, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
longer than any other prisoner in the unit. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
If you don't have a strong mind, this place can break you quick. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
A lot of guys, they don't have reasons why, they just snap out. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
That's what this place does to you, it makes you mean, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
makes you violent, and it fucks a lot of people's heads up. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
'This is solitary confinement.' | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
I've seen a number of inmates become extremely self-abusive | 0:08:19 | 0:08:24 | |
during their time in segregation. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
They have no control of anything else, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
so they'll cut, they'll smear faeces, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
they'll attempt to hang themselves. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
For the normal person who doesn't work in a facility like this, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
they're going to be thinking | 0:08:37 | 0:08:38 | |
if you punish 'em, you're going to make 'em better. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
And the reality is the exact opposite happens. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
Maine is one of a few American states | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
trying to reform its prisons by cutting down the use of solitary. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
The prison has a new warden who has a radical plan. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
I want you out on the other side of that door, | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
cos that's good for you, to be on this side of the door | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
and not that side, and you can hold me accountable. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
LOUD BANGING | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
It's really dangerous, OK? | 0:09:14 | 0:09:15 | |
If I have somebody that comes in with a five-year commitment, | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
you could have them do their whole time in segregation. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
But I don't want them living next to me when you release them. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
The warden can't just let everyone out. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
The inmates in solitary are unpredictable and dangerous. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
What's going to happen when they release you in five months? | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
-You going to come right back? -Hopefully not, no. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
Well, if you act like that, you're going to. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
Instead, he wants to reform them | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
and return them to the main part of the prison, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
known as "general population". | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
I think we need to make every attempt | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
at moving them out of those cells | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
and moving them into general population. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
On the surface, it might look crazy, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
but the reality is that 80% of these inmates | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
are going to be hitting the street. OK? | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
So we can either make them worse | 0:10:09 | 0:10:10 | |
and create more victims when they go on the street | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
or we can rehabilitate them. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
I have a young man down there right now. He's leaving in January. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:23 | |
Do we want him to leave from segregation | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
to go into the community? That's crazy. That's crazy. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
Steven Kirkley is doing a two-year sentence for robbery | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
and will be released to the street in just six months. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
He's one of the most disruptive inmates in the prison. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
When he's around other prisoners in the general population wing, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
he gets into fights. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
When he's in solitary, he cuts himself with razor blades. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
I got about ten, eleven more of those... | 0:10:58 | 0:11:03 | |
..placed throughout my cell. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:05 | |
I brought them down for everybody, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
but I might use one tomorrow for my birthday. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
Tie my arm off and just... | 0:11:13 | 0:11:14 | |
..cut the vein. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
I don't do it to hurt myself but... | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
..I do it and... | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
..basically... | 0:11:28 | 0:11:29 | |
..just to let them know I'm capable of doing it. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
The officers know that Kirkley is a "cutter", | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
so they do regular shakedowns on his cell. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
This time they don't find his razors. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
But Kirkley mounts a protest about the invasion of his space. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
Can you uncover your window and talk to me? | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
If you don't uncover, chemical agents are going to be applied. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
What are you planning to do? | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
-Get extracted. -Why? | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
Cos...I woke up this morning and I went to medical... | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
and I came back and everything in my room was messed up. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
Plus today is my birthday, and this is a way of celebrating. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:26 | |
For Kirkley, life in solitary has become a game. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:37 | |
He provokes the officers into extracting him almost every day. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
GAS HISSES | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
Let us know when you want to cuff up through the window. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
Inmates told me | 0:13:05 | 0:13:06 | |
as soon as I left my cell they was in there fucking my shit up. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
As soon as I left. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
Like I said, if I feel disrespected, I'm going to do what I got to do. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
The new warden tries to deal with disruptive inmates like Kirkley | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
in person. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
So, what have we got to do to move you ahead? | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
-I don't know. -How old are you? | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
21. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
So what do you think you need to do to go back into general population? | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
I'm not even going to try. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:34 | |
It doesn't matter if I get released from here or out there, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
I'm still getting released from prison. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
-You're going to stay in your cell? -If that's what it's going to take | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
for my shit not to get ripped apart, I'm not going nowhere. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
I'm not going to no programmes. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:48 | |
I'm not doing no programmes. I won't go to rec. It doesn't matter to me. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:53 | |
OK, that's a choice that you're going to make. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
We done? | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
'With Kirkley, he's a challenge. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
'The onus is on us to find the right approach | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
'to figure out how we're going to change him.' | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
Somehow we're missing something. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
We're missing the way to get to that young man. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
'And if we don't get to that young man and do what we need to do, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
'we're going to make him worse | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
'before he goes back into the community.' | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
Next door to Kirkley | 0:14:29 | 0:14:30 | |
is an inmate who's been in and out of solitary confinement | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
for more than 20 years, Peter Gibbs. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
How long have I been standing here asking to speak with the warden? | 0:14:36 | 0:14:41 | |
I'll talk to him, OK? I'll talk to him, all right, Peter? | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
You need to stay calm and I'll talk to him. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
See how easy it is to get upset? See that? | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
'I've strangled a correctional officer' | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
and hid him under my bed, | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
and then another one came in the pod and I knocked him out | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
and dragged him into a utility closet | 0:14:57 | 0:14:58 | |
and beat his head in with a mop wringer, and I got... | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
So I've been in prison a long time. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
That was when I was 16. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
The officers survived Gibbs' attack but he's still regarded | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
as one of the most dangerous inmates in the solitary unit. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
He's currently serving a 20-year sentence | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
for a string of armed robberies. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
Now he's demanding a transfer to another prison | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
to be closer to his family, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
and he's threatened to murder the warden if he doesn't get it. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
We've met before. I explained my situation. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
I will assault, attack, stab, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
do whatever I have to do to get out of your facility. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
I will kill one of your inmates. I don't have nothing to lose. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
I want out of here. My children can't come see me. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
I'm not rich. We're not rich, so they don't have the money to come here. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:48 | |
You know? | 0:15:48 | 0:15:49 | |
So, Mr Gibbs, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
what do we need to do to get out of this hole that we're in? | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
-OK? -I need to be medicated. -OK. -That makes me sociable. | 0:15:54 | 0:16:00 | |
OK, I'm going to follow that up. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:01 | |
You can't keep on threatening to kill me. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
If you threaten to kill me, | 0:16:03 | 0:16:04 | |
I probably won't let you out of this room, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
and if you threaten to kill anybody... | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
One thing about you, Mr Gibbs, that I know | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
is you're good for your word. All right? | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
I thought it would get me back to New Hampshire. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
If you tell them, "We don't want Mr Gibbs here," | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
-they have to take me back. -They don't have to take you back. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
Then I'll homicide one of your inmates! | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
What they'll do - let me finish - is they will make arrangements | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
for you to go from here to another state. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
New Jersey, Maryland. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:31 | |
New Jersey's refused me, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
Rhode Island's refused me cos of my mental health issues. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
Well, it seems to me that you'd like to see your wife and daughters. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
And it seems to me you'd like to get back out in general population. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:44 | |
As long as somewhere down the road we can convince New Hampshire | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
Mr Gibbs is doing unreal, he's changed and maybe take me back. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
-Look, what -I -can control is what I'm going to talk about. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
I can't control New Hampshire. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
What I can control is how do I move Mr Gibbs out of the seg unit, | 0:16:57 | 0:17:02 | |
how can I get Mr Gibbs an opportunity to make money | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
to send his wife so she can come visit him, | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
how can we work together | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
so that Mr Gibbs can move out of the seg unit so he can get his TV, OK? | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
You start with baby steps, right? | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
Well, what are you looking at for a time period? | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
Can you start giving me some stuff in my cell maybe? | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
That crochet programme was very important to me. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
I'm not ready to put a crochet hook in your hand right now. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
You know what I'm saying? | 0:17:27 | 0:17:28 | |
Nice chatting with you. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
The senior prison staff are concerned about the idea | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
of ever moving Gibbs out of solitary. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
He's a long way, from my perspective, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
cos I have to be in a pod. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
Any one of us can be in general population with this guy. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
So I don't want to see someone die, an officer die, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
because we're trying to kinda get him settled | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
-as we wait for New Hampshire. -It's just going to be a process. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
The US has a higher percentage of its population in prison | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
than any country in the world, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
almost five times that of England and Wales. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
Solitary confinement was first introduced here in the 1800s | 0:18:16 | 0:18:21 | |
as an experiment to see if isolation would reform criminals. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
It was soon abandoned, because prisoners didn't reform. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
They lost their minds. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
You get to go home and I got to stay in fucking here! | 0:18:34 | 0:18:39 | |
But the practice was re-introduced in the 1980s | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
in an effort to reduce widespread prison violence. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
Now America has 80,000 inmates in isolation, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
more than any other country. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:52 | |
Research suggests that prisoners in solitary | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
are six times more likely to kill themselves than other inmates | 0:18:58 | 0:19:03 | |
and seven times more likely to self-harm. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
21-year-old Adam Brulotte | 0:19:21 | 0:19:22 | |
has been in solitary confinement for four weeks now. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
He was confident he could handle it, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
but he's started to fixate | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
about what will happen when he leaves prison. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
Yeah, I got hardcore ADD, and I'm about to leave in five months. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
I don't know where I'm going to go, I don't know where I'm going to work. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
I don't know how I'm going to get a car. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
I still got 1,000 to pay with no car, no job. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
When you settle down in your room and you really just start thinking, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
it's just "bang-bang-bang-bang" all at once. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
This really kind of fucks with my head. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
I'm just trying to get some medication to slow that down for now. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
Brulotte has now begun to cause trouble in the unit. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
Why are you pissed off? | 0:20:18 | 0:20:19 | |
Cos they're fucking with people's portions! | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
Ohhh! LAUGHTER | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
-Scumbag! -That's a million-dollar shot! | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
Oh, it's war. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
LOUD BANGING | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
That night, the unrest escalates. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
What is all this stuff on the floor? | 0:20:36 | 0:20:37 | |
It's probably urine and toilet paper and food. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
Brulotte is planning to flood the unit. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
In about half an hour, I'm going to let that loose | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
and it'll be in the hallway. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
-What's going on? -Nothing. -Nothing? | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
Oh, shit! There it goes! | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
Yeah! | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
The punishment for flooding out will be more time in solitary. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
Inmates in solitary are deprived of all physical contact. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
But they've found ways of reaching one another | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
when the officers aren't looking. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
They call this "fishing". | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
Prisoners use threads from their sheets | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
to send contraband from cell to cell. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
The solitary unit has its own underground economy. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
The packages contain messages, drugs and razor blades. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:24 | |
# We have a bleeder! | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
# We have a bleeder! # | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
-Another day on the job? -Another day on the job. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
Barely a day goes by in the solitary unit without an inmate self-harming. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
This is a real clean-up right here. | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
And when they do, other prisoners are paid to clean up the mess. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
We probably average about 20 of these a month, so... Yeah. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:12 | |
In the last year, I've become an expert on blood, I guess. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
And it doesn't just mop up, does it? | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
No, it doesn't. It coagulates, and it's... | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
Generally, I try to saturate it with a germicide | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
and then I use a sheet to mop it up | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
and then afterwards I try to scrub it down. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
My heart goes out to everybody down here. I've been behind these doors, | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
so I know what it's like to stay down here for years. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
Being behind these walls gets to everybody, | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
and everybody deals with it in their own particular way. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
As you can imagine, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:05 | |
someone being 17, 18 years old in a setting like this, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
you know, it's not really... It does a lot with your mind. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
I cut because it's my only way to escape. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
Obviously, being locked up, you don't have control of nothing. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
And...cutting myself makes me feel in control. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
Sam Caison is a regular visitor to the solitary unit | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
and a prolific cutter. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
He's been in and out of prison his whole adult life. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
When his previous sentence ended, | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
he was released from solitary straight to the street. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
I tried to tell my mom and everybody I didn't want anybody around | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
and tried explaining why. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
When I got released, I got home and there was five people there, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
and I felt like there was 5,000 people there. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
Ultimately, for my first couple of months | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
I pretty much locked myself in my camper | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
until my mom and everybody... | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
..tried to explain to me | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
I'm not in prison, I shouldn't live like that. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
'I ultimately tried to force myself to live like I was still in seg, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:38 | |
'because I didn't know what to do.' | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
I went from the most restrictive place I've ever been | 0:25:42 | 0:25:48 | |
to...no restrictions at all. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
Ultimately, I ended up shooting somebody and coming back. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
Do you think your time in seg has made you more dangerous? | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
Yeah. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
Steven Kirkley has become a frequent cutter | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
since coming to solitary. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:17 | |
He's due to be released from prison in just four months. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
Now the warden has decided on a radical step | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
to try to improve his behaviour before he's set free. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
He's moved him to the prison's mental health wing. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
The mental health wing | 0:27:05 | 0:27:06 | |
is a very different place from the solitary unit. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
Most of the inmates here have serious mental illnesses. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
Many have come from solitary. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
Prison psychologist Dr Dan Bannish runs the wing. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
'It's... It's different. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
'Instead of the depressing clank of the prison, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
'it's trying to create something a little different. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
'Every breath, every movement, every portion, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
'everything in there is clinical. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
'There isn't a non-clinical thing we do. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
'Everything is geared towards skill developments, | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
'relationship building, appropriate interactions.' | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
'So everything about it is becoming social.' | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
They're used to coming from | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
environments where people hurt each other and are antisocial, | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
and this is a whole build-up of how you relate to people, | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
and you have to practise it every single day. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
Dr Bannish will now try to prepare Steven Kirkley | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
for his imminent release. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
I'm worried about you, the future Mr Kirkley out here. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
Your life post-this is what matters. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
So that's what I work with you on, what I hold people accountable for. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
I say, "I want to see a plan for this man." | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
I'm done, I'm done with all that. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
To be honest, I don't care, I don't care about any of that. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
-Then where are you going to go? -I'm going to do my own thing. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
But what is that? You're going to walk out the door to what? | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
I'm going to walk out the door | 0:28:48 | 0:28:49 | |
and I'm going to fucking pick up some cocaine | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
and I'm going to fucking stand on the corner and I'm going to hustle. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
So that's like being here. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:56 | |
That's all I know how to do, that's what I was brought up to do. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
That's all I know how to do. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:00 | |
So that basically says you're going to live your life in here. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
If... If that's what it is, cos no... | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
No, not IF it is, that's what it is. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
Nobody's helping me, though. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
I'm about to try to get a plan, because right now you got nothing. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
In all honesty, Mr Kirkley, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
all this stuff that's happening now is like white noise. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
The big thing is April, he walks out the door. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
and if he starts on day one out the door picking up your first rock, | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
all this stuff, | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
you're back to... you might as well stay. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
I might as well give you a gun, cos everybody's got one within a day. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:34 | |
Shit, I got a couple buried! | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
Yeah, I figured. Y'know? And I'm trying to be kind on this! | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
Where are you actually physically going to be in April? | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
Where are you going to get your money? | 0:29:44 | 0:29:46 | |
You know HOW to get money, but that's part of the problem! | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
The number one factor that brings people back to prison, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
you know what it is? Peers. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
If you're going to hang around with a bad group, you're coming back. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
If you hang around with a bad group, you'll stay, | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
and you'll all be back here together. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
And when you're 45, you're going to be looking back, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
saying that was probably not a good idea. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
I'm going to tell you what you'll be thinking at 45, | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
even though you don't believe me. OK? | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
Sorry. I find myself lecturing. It's not anything... | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
It helps, though! | 0:30:15 | 0:30:17 | |
A lot of people tell me to shut up, so... | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
I can honestly say that out of everybody I talk to in here, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:25 | |
you're the smartest. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
And your lectures are good. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
It doesn't go in one ear and out the other. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
I can say you're probably one of the only people that cares, though. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:37 | |
Well, I don't think I'm the only one, but I do care. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
I don't like the fact that you would be sent out to nothing. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
It's a waste of money, it's a waste of taxpayer dollars, | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
it's a waste of a human being. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
And it doesn't mean giving you everything, either. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
It means setting things up so you have a chance to succeed. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
Right now, just to let you go, hoping...? | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
All right? All right, take care, Mr Kirkley. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
I need to get a guy out. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
Get up and fight the team! | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
The warden's effort to help Kirkley | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
has created a new problem back on the solitary unit. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
The other inmates think prisoners who self-harm | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
are getting preferential treatment. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
There might be some cookies and milk. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:30 | |
Peter Gibbs is now threatening to start cutting himself | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
if he doesn't get the prison transfer he wants. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
This is what I have to start doing. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
People have done stuff. They've gotten rewarded for it. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
I sit in my cell, I mind my own business, but there's no rewards! | 0:31:45 | 0:31:50 | |
Hey, Gibbs! | 0:31:56 | 0:31:57 | |
Gordon? | 0:31:59 | 0:32:00 | |
Gibbs is not the only inmate causing trouble. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
Hey, how are you feeling about not getting that meeting today? | 0:32:04 | 0:32:09 | |
After a year in solitary, | 0:32:09 | 0:32:10 | |
Gordon Perry is also running out of patience. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
They told me the same thing. He was going to see me this week. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
If I don't get some answers by three o'clock, I'm covering my window. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:22 | |
And if I don't get good enough answers, they're extracting me. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
It'll be a miracle if I don't get extracted today. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
It's unreal how they force people's hands here. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
I want to give them a little bit more time, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
because when I cover that window up, I'm serious. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
This ain't my first rodeo. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
I got a pretty good setup, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
and we're going to fucking hopefully fight the team! | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
Come and get me! | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
Now the warden and his staff | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
have to talk down two of the most dangerous inmates in the unit. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
The only way you ever get anything round here is to act up. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
Sitting back being good for a year ain't fucking working. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
All I'm getting is smoke blown up my fucking ass every which way I look. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
This is going to disqualify you from New Hampshire. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
If you do this kind of shit, it's not going to happen. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
Of course it's going to happen! | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
I've seen him make deals, like, left and right with people | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
for putting this fucking shit up in the window. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
You got a couple of assaults in 17 years. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
How hard is it to move me? So I got to be out of here pretty soon. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
Because of what you've done here, | 0:33:32 | 0:33:33 | |
we're going to move you out very slowly. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
What I need to know is when I move you out there, | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
are you going to be safe? | 0:33:39 | 0:33:40 | |
-Am -I -going to be safe? | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
I need to know the other inmates are going to be safe as well. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
It ain't happening. You guys got me down here for a year. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
I'm all set with the stabbings, I'm ready to go out | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
and try to enjoy myself a little bit. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
I'm willing to look at moving you along. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
But it's going to be a while. We've got to work the process. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
And I'm not interested in burying you. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
I'm already buried, though. I've already been down here a year. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:07 | |
I want to be Maced. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
I don't want to Mace you, Gibbs. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:10 | |
-I need to be Maced. -You don't need to be Maced. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
-I have to be. -No, you don't. There's no reason for this shit. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
If I cut up, will you Mace me? | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
No. There's no reason for any of that stuff. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
You can't give me a little blast, just a little burst? | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
I'm not going to give you a blast. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
-I understand you're frustrated, OK? -No, you don't understand. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
-I do. We had that conversation. -You have no clue. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
Don't think it's lost on me | 0:34:29 | 0:34:30 | |
that you're locked in a box for 23 hours a day. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
I don't care about that. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:33 | |
This is like being... This, to me, is nothing. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
That's what's so sad about segregation | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
is after years and years and years, | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
-you become retarded to it. -You're smarter than that. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
-I'm all fucked up. -But you're smarter than that, Gibbs. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
I'm fucked up from it. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
You're smarter than that. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
OK, so we'll evaluate it and we'll look at moving you along, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
and we'll talk next week. OK? | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
OK. Have a good weekend. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
I can't even get fucking Maced in this place! | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
Frozen, frozen, frozen, frozen, frozen! | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
DOOR BUZZER | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
Adam Brulotte thought he could cope with solitary, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
but after six weeks, his mental state is deteriorating fast. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
Last night, he covered his window and got extracted from his cell. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
Mr Brulotte, how are you feeling today? | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
-Better. -That's good to hear. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
All I really want to do is go to school and not go to C pod. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
He's due to be released from prison in four months | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
and is increasingly anxious | 0:36:45 | 0:36:46 | |
about what he's going to do on the outside. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
He's desperate to take the basic education exam called the GED | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
to give himself a chance of getting a job when he's released. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
I want you guys to know, I need fucking shit to do. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
-I need to go to school. -OK. -And I want my GED. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
That's all I ask. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
I'm not going to go out there | 0:37:04 | 0:37:05 | |
and scram for another job selling drugs and shit | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
because I don't have no education. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
I told you at your door yesterday, give me a shot, give me a chance. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
If I fill you full of shit, | 0:37:14 | 0:37:15 | |
you do what you think you got to do and we'll do what we got to do. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
We'll do our best to get you the help you need. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
But I need you to do your part. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
You need to keep your head screwed on straight. OK? | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
I got one for you, Kirkley and Griffin. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
I'm going to each give you something to do. I think you'll enjoy this. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
Now it's puzzles time. Oh, my God, it's puzzles! | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
Back in the mental health unit, | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
Dr Bannish is setting the inmates puzzles. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
It's part of the therapy designed to constructively engage the prisoners. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:47 | |
You see how enjoyable these guys are? | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
They don't want to be grumpy, they don't want to be upset, | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
they want contact that's meaningful. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:53 | |
There we go. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
-HE LAUGHS -This is a good one. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
No conferring with each other, either. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
We'll see if you got that by Monday. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
So you can't take it... | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
The idea is to see if there's a way to keep mental health in their cell | 0:38:11 | 0:38:17 | |
without having to be there, | 0:38:17 | 0:38:18 | |
so we use a transitional object, something that represents me. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:22 | |
I didn't just hand them pieces of paper, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
I made contact with each of them | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
and reconnected with them, engaged with them. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
Then I'll be there to follow up with this piece, | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
and they'll be all excited, | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
especially if they've accomplished this thing. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
The other thing that they're unaware of, | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
the actual thing that they're working on | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
has clinical components attached to it | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
that I'll be using the next time I meet them, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
because literally the solution has to do | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
with other ways of looking at problems. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
That's another big hint I gave you. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
-Really? Oh, right! -So you got to give me another big hint. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
It's very healthy to struggle. There's nothing wrong with struggle. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:59 | |
And that's why it's a struggle. I don't mind a struggle. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
Steven Kirkley used to be the most disruptive inmate in solitary. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
Since Dr Bannish started working with him, | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
his behaviour has improved. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:15 | |
I like to figure it out on my own. It's a challenge. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
That's why I do the New York Times crossword puzzle. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
Sometimes it takes me hours, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
but when you finally get it, it feels good. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
Did you ever do the New York Times crossword? | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
Really? | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
I walked into that one. OK. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
Sometimes you just have to think outside of yourself. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
-Huge clue. Huge clue! -HE LAUGHS | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
Mr White! | 0:39:52 | 0:39:53 | |
'We can't just bury these guys. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
'As a psychologist, I'm looking into what's effective,' | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
what works, | 0:39:58 | 0:39:59 | |
why do we keep doing things that don't work or make things worse, | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
why don't we figure something else out. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
So every time I meet with him, | 0:40:05 | 0:40:06 | |
it's much more of an uplifting kind of thing. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
We'll goof with each other, and he knows I'm not there to judge him. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
And I don't have him just as being this nasty kid, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
but I also know that he doesn't want to end up | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
where he knows he's going to end up. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
He's a kid. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
Well, my fault would be trying to go by the rules. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
I don't have too much open-mindedness for the rules in here. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
And tell us why. There's always a reason, so let us know. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
Just, like, cos I'm a criminal | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
and I don't like the rules that you guys have. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
Besides that! | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
After more than a year in solitary, Gordon Perry is out of his cell. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
The last time he was in a room with other prisoners, | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
he stabbed one with a screwdriver. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
Now he's joined a new programme | 0:41:05 | 0:41:06 | |
being offered to inmates in the segregation unit. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
All you have to do is make the choice | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
at the time that something is presented to you. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
"Am I going to push poop on my window? Am I going to cut myself?" | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
Prisoners are asked to talk honestly about how they make decisions. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:24 | |
The weekly classes are supposed to help them become less violent. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
Adam Brulotte is doing the programme too. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
I show pride, I try to go too far, and I start to get hard-headed. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
Doing what everybody wants. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
Yeah, "I'll be so much cooler if I break this guy's eye socket." | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
If your pride's good, if you don't back down on shit, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
people give you respect, so that's a positive of that. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
What's the negative with the pride? | 0:41:46 | 0:41:47 | |
If you're a bitch then people treat you like a bitch, | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
-so they don't get no respect. -But that's no pride. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
Let's talk about having pride. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
Oh, the negative of it is coming to SMU, | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
because you've got to bank somebody out | 0:41:56 | 0:41:58 | |
because they put you in that situation. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
'That programme is bullshit. Everybody knows it. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
'I don't want to do this programme. I just want to get out of seg.' | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
Do you want to change? | 0:42:08 | 0:42:09 | |
Change for what? Change into what? | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
I'm here for ever. There's nothing for me to ch... | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
I'm a criminal, I'm not going to jump on the other side or anything. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
So I am what I am. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
'I think my character's pretty good overall. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
'Unless you're my enemy, it's pretty good, I think. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
'So that programme has nothing for me.' | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
Most of the inmates in the solitary unit | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
think the new classes are a waste of time. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
But the warden is encouraging them all to take part | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
and work their way back into the prison's general population. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
What we're looking for as we're doing this programming | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
is that we see a difference, we see a slow, incremental shift. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:12 | |
'When you initiate these kinds of programmes, you get resistance. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
'It's not only inmates that are resisting us right now. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
'We still have some staff | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
'that really don't believe that this stuff is going to work.' | 0:43:20 | 0:43:24 | |
But I've seen it work. I'm an absolute believer in it working. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:28 | |
Everything just went downhill from being a no-trouble-at-all inmate | 0:43:32 | 0:43:37 | |
to all of a sudden just going right to the bottom of the ladder. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
'Most people would say, well, these people need to come into prison, | 0:43:41 | 0:43:45 | |
'they need to be punished. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:47 | |
'The punishment for the most part is they've lost their civil right, | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
'they're behind these walls. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
'Once we get them behind these walls, | 0:43:54 | 0:43:56 | |
'it is our job to rehabilitate them so they can become | 0:43:56 | 0:44:00 | |
'successful, productive citizens in the community. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:03 | |
'If we truly rehabilitate the inmates, | 0:44:13 | 0:44:15 | |
'when we put them into society, we will create less victims, | 0:44:15 | 0:44:20 | |
'and ultimately that's the goal.' | 0:44:20 | 0:44:22 | |
I'm leaving in four and a half months, | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
and they put me on the fucking bottom of the list. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
-They didn't... -I'm about to freak out! | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
There's little evidence | 0:44:41 | 0:44:42 | |
that the classes are improving Brulotte's behaviour. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
I don't give a fuck. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:46 | |
He's angry that he still hasn't been able to take his GED exam. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:50 | |
You're going to be getting your GED, OK? | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
Well, I want to fucking do some testing tomorrow. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
-Absolutely. -Or I'll snap. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:56 | |
You know what? That's a legitimate request, | 0:44:56 | 0:45:00 | |
but you snapping isn't going to get it to you. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:02 | |
Give me a shot at trying to fucking help you out with the GED bit. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
Yeah, and that's been two weeks! I'm this close! | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
-OK. -I'm fucking close! | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
Believe that bullshit, you'll believe any fucking thing! | 0:45:10 | 0:45:14 | |
I'm not fucking believing nothing. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:16 | |
Big house of lies! | 0:45:16 | 0:45:18 | |
With no more information about his exam, | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
Brulotte has decided to cover his window. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:26 | |
You treat us like animals, we will act like animals! | 0:45:26 | 0:45:30 | |
Do you want to come out | 0:45:30 | 0:45:31 | |
-and talk about all this stuff that's going on? -I will after I fight! | 0:45:31 | 0:45:36 | |
Brulotte pushes faeces under the door | 0:45:40 | 0:45:42 | |
and threatens to cut himself next. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:44 | |
If we go down through it, I'd like to take a look at who would be... | 0:45:59 | 0:46:02 | |
The warden has now been in the job for six months. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
He faces some tough choices. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:07 | |
I truly don't see him as significantly mentally ill. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:12 | |
The longer he leaves inmates in solitary, | 0:46:12 | 0:46:14 | |
the more disturbed they could become. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:17 | |
When he's completed that programme, then he can go to general pop. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
But moving them out too soon could endanger staff and other prisoners. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:25 | |
Gordon Perry... | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
Now he's ready to take a risk | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
with one of the prison's most dangerous inmates. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
If he's showing he's behaving | 0:46:32 | 0:46:33 | |
and doing what he needs to do, we're gonna move him along. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
At some point, you got to give somebody a second chance. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
All right, let's do it. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:41 | |
Friday. That's the day when it's set in stone? | 0:46:48 | 0:46:51 | |
I wouldn't say it's 100% set in stone. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:53 | |
You already promised me, it has to be. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:55 | |
-No, no. -You gave your word. -You're going out. We'll get you out. | 0:46:55 | 0:47:00 | |
Friday morning. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:01 | |
Friday morning? | 0:47:01 | 0:47:02 | |
More than a year after he arrived, Gordon Perry is leaving solitary. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:20 | |
He's heading for a step-down unit | 0:47:32 | 0:47:34 | |
for prisoners transitioning out of solitary. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
Inmates here are allowed out of their cells | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
for a few hours each day, and required to take more classes. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
If Perry does well, | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
he will eventually move to a unit with fewer restrictions. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
You know, he's a very dangerous individual | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
but essentially I still believe that we can change him. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
Our obligation is to continue to provide him | 0:48:06 | 0:48:10 | |
with the opportunity to change. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:12 | |
I don't hesitate on the decision at all. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
I'm just hanging out, that's what I'm doing. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
My realistic, honest plan is to live as good as I can in here. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:26 | |
But it's a fantasy to think you're going to change somebody | 0:48:28 | 0:48:31 | |
that doesn't want to change. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:32 | |
Open up at 2.10, please, Alpha, 2.10. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
Did they say 2.11 before? | 0:48:40 | 0:48:41 | |
Perry is not the only inmate to leave solitary. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:50 | |
Adam Brulotte is also being given a chance out in general population. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:55 | |
Others follow. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:05 | |
The number of inmates in solitary has now dropped by more than half | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
and the number of inmates doing programmes has doubled. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:16 | |
Frankly, I'm absolutely convinced what we're doing is going to work | 0:49:19 | 0:49:23 | |
and it is working. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:24 | |
I can tell you that the number of fights have dropped, | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
the number of use of weapons has dropped, | 0:49:27 | 0:49:29 | |
transports to the emergency room have dropped. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
So, overall, it's had a positive impact, but we're just beginning. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:37 | |
Listen, this is me. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
This is how I express myself. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
It's either this, or this... | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
After two weeks of good behaviour in the mental health unit, | 0:49:45 | 0:49:48 | |
Steven Kirkley has also been moved back to general population. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:53 | |
I like you and shit, but I don't like you | 0:49:53 | 0:49:55 | |
so fucking much that I want you coming back here | 0:49:55 | 0:49:57 | |
and hanging out with me, you know... | 0:49:57 | 0:50:00 | |
He's been paired up with another inmate, | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
who will act as a mentor to try to keep him out of trouble. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
There will be a time when you get out of here | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
that someone's going to hand you a blunt and say, "Yo, smoke up." | 0:50:07 | 0:50:11 | |
There will be a time when someone says, "Hey, yo, I know how we can make a quick buck." | 0:50:11 | 0:50:15 | |
So what you need to do is understand | 0:50:15 | 0:50:17 | |
that doesn't make them pieces of shit, | 0:50:17 | 0:50:19 | |
they're not where they need to be, they're not in a healthy place, | 0:50:19 | 0:50:22 | |
so they got nothing to offer you. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:25 | |
So you got to be ready in your mind how to answer those questions | 0:50:25 | 0:50:29 | |
right off the rip. "Hey, yo, I recognise this is a test | 0:50:29 | 0:50:35 | |
"and that I can't fall for this | 0:50:35 | 0:50:36 | |
"because I'm jeopardising this, this and this." | 0:50:36 | 0:50:39 | |
He's real good, he's real good. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:43 | |
Knowing that there's people in this facility that actually care. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:48 | |
I can't give them my back, you know what I mean? | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
I got to do my part, basically. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
That's the difference between guys that successfully do time, | 0:50:54 | 0:50:58 | |
and guys that don't successfully do time. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
Back in the segregation unit, there's a familiar face. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:06 | |
After threatening a prison officer, | 0:51:06 | 0:51:08 | |
Adam Brulotte has been sent back to solitary. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
I tried to be good but I only lasted ten days. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:16 | |
I'm done trying to be good. I'm going home in 90 days. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:19 | |
All I have to do is 90 more and I'm done, I'm going home. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:22 | |
Yeah, my mental health diminished. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:26 | |
Slowly but surely, it would do it to anybody, | 0:51:26 | 0:51:29 | |
I lasted a while, now I just think, "fuck it". | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
They put me in the coldest cell in this whole prison as punishment. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:38 | |
It's supposed to be like a certain... | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
I don't know, this is America, not Russia, | 0:51:41 | 0:51:43 | |
it's just fucking cold in here. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:45 | |
BANGING AND SCREAMING | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
10-4, primary and secondary. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:12 | |
HE SHOUTS AND SCREAMS | 0:52:12 | 0:52:15 | |
Fuck you, I want a fucking warmer room! | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
Fucking shit of an icebox! | 0:52:20 | 0:52:22 | |
Put your hands up here and I'll cuff you up. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
Fuck you, I want a fucking warmer room! This is bullshit! | 0:52:24 | 0:52:28 | |
Brulotte has cut himself with a razor blade. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
Stop! | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
-Calm down. -I've been fucking calm, I've been asking you all day, | 0:52:45 | 0:52:48 | |
I'm not going to sleep in a fucking cold room! | 0:52:48 | 0:52:50 | |
BANGING | 0:52:50 | 0:52:52 | |
-PRISONER: -That blood is pouring out of him at the back, you need to bring him to medical, man. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:56 | |
This is bullshit, fucking bullshit. Shouldn't have to fucking do this. | 0:52:56 | 0:53:01 | |
Put him in something and bring him to medical. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:03 | |
-How do you feel? -Fucking dead! | 0:53:03 | 0:53:07 | |
Fucking put me in a fucking ice box. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:11 | |
Brulotte sums up the dilemma faced by the prison. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:21 | |
Out in the general population, he's a threat. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:24 | |
In solitary, he gets worse. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
We've seen Adam Brulotte deteriorate since he arrived in seg. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:37 | |
From someone who'd never hurt himself before, he cut up very badly, | 0:53:37 | 0:53:40 | |
put faeces out of the door, did some pretty strange stuff. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:43 | |
Was segregation the right place for a person like Adam? | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
You just defined why we don't like to use segregation. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:50 | |
But sometimes it's necessary. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:53 | |
Mr Brulotte was engaged in some very, very serious behaviour | 0:53:53 | 0:53:56 | |
while he was in general population. | 0:53:56 | 0:53:59 | |
So, without a doubt, it was the right place for him. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
Did he spend too long in seg? | 0:54:06 | 0:54:08 | |
You know, that's a real hard question to answer. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
There's a lot of grey area in some of the decisions that we make. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:15 | |
There's no exact science to any one of these guys, | 0:54:15 | 0:54:18 | |
you have to try to figure them out as we go along. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:21 | |
But ultimately, when we're moving him back into general population, | 0:54:22 | 0:54:27 | |
we have to be certain that the staff are going to be safe, | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
the other inmates are going to be safe, and he's going to be safe. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:34 | |
Before you went to seg, did you ever imagine | 0:54:52 | 0:54:55 | |
you would cut yourself like that? | 0:54:55 | 0:54:57 | |
No, never. I didn't even know what it was. | 0:54:57 | 0:55:01 | |
And I seen a couple of people doing it, so then I started doing it. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:06 | |
Do you think it's changed you for ever? | 0:55:06 | 0:55:09 | |
I don't know, have to find out. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:12 | |
I'm going to try to be normal again. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
Just the routine every day gets to you. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:22 | |
I've been down here four months | 0:55:23 | 0:55:25 | |
and I've gotten in trouble like 30 times... | 0:55:25 | 0:55:29 | |
..and been extracted umpteen times, | 0:55:30 | 0:55:32 | |
flooded my whole room out, couple of times. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:35 | |
Just stuff to pass the time away. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:38 | |
And I guess they don't like that, they think I'm crazy for it, but... | 0:55:40 | 0:55:45 | |
You got to do something. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
A year after the warden arrived at the Maine State Prison, | 0:56:02 | 0:56:06 | |
his new regime is seeing results. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:08 | |
Violence at the prison is falling. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
The number of inmates in isolation is falling. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:16 | |
And almost uniquely for an American supermax prison, | 0:56:18 | 0:56:21 | |
the warden remains focused on rehabilitating even his most dangerous prisoners. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:26 | |
It's not easy, OK, this is tough work, | 0:56:29 | 0:56:32 | |
there are some inmates down there right now, it's going to be | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
a long time before they make it from the segregation unit | 0:56:35 | 0:56:38 | |
back into general population. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:40 | |
So I do believe that segregation has a place, | 0:56:40 | 0:56:43 | |
particularly in a supermax, but I think to keep people there | 0:56:43 | 0:56:46 | |
and have them languish, you're making them worse, | 0:56:46 | 0:56:50 | |
you're making them angrier | 0:56:50 | 0:56:52 | |
and when you do in fact release them to the community, | 0:56:52 | 0:56:55 | |
the likelihood of creating more victims is increased significantly. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:59 | |
After filming finished, | 0:57:03 | 0:57:04 | |
Steven Kirkley was sent back to the segregation unit | 0:57:04 | 0:57:07 | |
for assaulting an officer. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:09 | |
He was ultimately released straight from solitary to the street. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:15 | |
Adam Brulotte was sent back to general population | 0:57:19 | 0:57:22 | |
from the mental health unit. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:24 | |
He's since been released from prison. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:26 | |
Gordon Perry was caught with contraband | 0:57:29 | 0:57:31 | |
and sent back to solitary. | 0:57:31 | 0:57:33 | |
Within hours, he cut open a vein. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:38 | |
Peter Gibbs is still in solitary. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:46 | |
Right on the edge of having a complete nervous breakdown. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:49 | |
There are no plans to release him. | 0:57:50 | 0:57:52 |