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Hungry and angry, another food riot breaks out on the streets of Algeria. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:47 | |
The world food crisis is growing. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
Desperate times call for desperate measures, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
and for the millions of people around the world struggling to buy | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
the most basic of foodstuffs, these are desperate times. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
The image of troops at rice distribution centres is | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
fast becoming a regular sight in Asia. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
Rich countries are racing to buy and lease agricultural land abroad | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
and secure their food supplies for the future. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
Africa, known for its fertile land and low-priced agricultural | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
real estate has become the target of wealthy investors. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
The first generation of land grab was called colonisation. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
We've been through that. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:36 | |
Today, we must learn that deals can be structured, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
really in a way that they benefit the local communities | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
but also the investors. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
Those investors, our private sector partners that are going out | 0:02:45 | 0:02:50 | |
and doing the straight land grabbing. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
Fully mechanising and not in any way bringing in small growers or | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
community, you might as well put yourself on death row. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
The project will not last. Socially, it will not last. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
I mean, this is a classic problem across the whole continent | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
in different versions. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
Clarity of land, who has land, who doesn't, how do you negotiate? | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
We've moved away from not talking about it. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
We now have to move to actually being able to do it. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
Africa has a very critical asset for food production, | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
for the global community. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
Nearly 60% of the arable land worldwide that's available | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
today is in Africa. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
And it's estimated that near half of hungry people are also farmers. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
So farmers are not producing enough to eat. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
First works? | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
The first office block. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
50 offices and dining rooms, two places for prayers. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:05 | |
So this is actually centred where the fields will be | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
when we develop them. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:11 | |
This will be almost centred | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
because it occupies an area quite west of the centre. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
It is fabulous. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:19 | |
-Finally. -HE LAUGHS | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
-Finally something. -Finally something, yes. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
Finally, the beginning. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:26 | |
Mima Nedelcovych is an American agricultural developer | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
who has built sugar plantations all over Africa. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
Now, Mima is finalising plans for a vast industrial sugar operation | 0:05:45 | 0:05:51 | |
in the centre of Mali, one of Africa's poorest nations. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:56 | |
If successful, his plan - known as the Markala Sugar Project or | 0:05:59 | 0:06:05 | |
Sosumar - promises to kick-start the industrialisation of Mali's economy. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:11 | |
Sosumar intends to lease 200-sq-KM from the Malian government | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
in the country's most fertile farming region, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
the Office du Niger, for a plantation and factory. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:28 | |
The plan, to build 200 sugar pivots, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
means that thousands of local families, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
many of whom have farmed here for generations, will lose their land. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
When Sosumar takes control of the land, Mima is asking these | 0:06:45 | 0:06:50 | |
displaced farmers to become contracted sugarcane growers, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:55 | |
each one cultivating a small portion of the vast plantation. | 0:06:55 | 0:07:01 | |
The innovative part of the project is that we're very much | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
looking at a core operation with small independent out-growers. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:10 | |
The beauty of this, if you will, is creating a whole series | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
of independent farmers around us. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
So as we develop 70 hectare of pivots | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
so will be six-seven families or so that will tend to those 70 hectares. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
We're actually creating a new class of commercial farmers | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
that will grow out over time. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
The independent small grower out here with his millet. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
The family with their one or two hectares. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
They're living here the way they did, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
the same families, 300 years ago. There's no change. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
By bringing it into larger schemes and value-added production, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:11 | |
you're bringing the small farmer into the value chain. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
It's giving them a reason to produce more than what they eat. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
Agriculture is a culture. It's a way of life. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
And every time you change a way of life, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
you create uncertainty about the distribution of benefits and risks. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
And so these debates are an integral part of changing any cultural system. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:03 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
Mima's involvement with Sosumar | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
began well before the world food crisis. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
The Malian government approached him in 2000 | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
with the goal of transforming Mali into a sugar-exporting nation. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:51 | |
We initially identified, if you will, the project, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
conceptually speaking, a little over ten years ago now. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
Beginning in 2000. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
It's a complex public-private project | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
and it is a first of its kind in the size that it is, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
so getting all the pieces in place in Mali takes longer. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
It's more difficult. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:12 | |
Sosumar is now a 600 million partnership between the | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
Government of Mali, Mima's Louisiana-based consulting firm, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:21 | |
and Africa's largest sugar producer, Illovo Sugar from South Africa. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:26 | |
It is financed by 17 lenders including | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
the African Development Bank, the South Korean Export-Import bank, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:35 | |
and the Saudi-based Islamic Finance Corporation. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
-Nick, how are you? -Good to see you. -Nice to see you. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
Although construction work at the factory site has begun, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
the complex package of loan agreements is yet to be | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
ratified by the Malian Government. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
Until everything is finalised, Mima and his partners are paying | 0:14:04 | 0:14:09 | |
for rising costs out of their own pockets. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
I think by way of introduction, there has been progress on many | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
aspects of the project since the board last met in May. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:21 | |
But really we're not moving as fast as the Sosumar board had expected. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:27 | |
If we can clear out all of the remaining issues, | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
it will allow the African Development Bank to conduct its project launch. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:36 | |
OK, just a quick update. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
As of the 31st of October, our total spend is 16.8 million. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:44 | |
And this was primarily because of the increased ramp up | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
in spending in the current ten months. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
OK. All right. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:30 | |
One of the problems that plague peasant societies, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
smallholder societies, is that peasants don't own their land. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
They date from a time when there was no land ownership. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
So when you have people who belong to this vastly different | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
kind of land regime, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:46 | |
they're vulnerable to any force of the state or a company that | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
can come in and literally pull the resources out from under their feet. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
The question is, who owns Africa, who owns the land? | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
Is it the people of Africa, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
the ordinary farmers who own the land, or is it their governments? | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
Only about 10% of Africa is under European-type entitlement. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:13 | |
So that means 90% of the land belongs to who? | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
The Office du Niger farming region is | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
the creation of the French colonial regime, dating from the 1930s. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
To grow rice and cotton for their empire, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
the colonisers seized millions of hectares. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
They dammed the Niger River, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
and cleared the land for industrial farming. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
Ibrahima Coulibaly is the head of the Malian Farmers Union, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
and an architect of the Global Food Sovereignty movement. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
Until 2008, Ibrahima had spent his career working with | 0:18:13 | 0:18:18 | |
the Malian government to improve its agriculture policy. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
After years of Ibrahima's lobbying, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
Mali became one of the first countries in the world to adopt | 0:19:01 | 0:19:06 | |
Food Sovereignty as government policy, in 2006. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
When the world food crisis struck in 2008, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
Ibrahima saw his role transformed. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:46 | |
AUDIENCE APPLAUD | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
As the government began leasing land to foreign investors | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
like the Libyans, Chinese, Ukrainians, Saudi Arabians | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
and Senegalese, Ibrahima dedicated himself to fighting | 0:20:17 | 0:20:22 | |
the violence and abuse that accompanied their arrival. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
Sosumar has polarised opinion between the many | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
villages in this area. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
Often less than a kilometre apart, some villages wholeheartedly | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
support Sosumar, while others are staunchly opposed. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
For us, it's clear the community, the local population must buy in. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:05 | |
So we have been spending a lot of time with the local population. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
Both the village elders, the chiefs | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
to envision what this place could become. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
When Sosumar does begin planting, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
local farmers that lose their land must make a choice | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
either they sign up with Mima and begin farming sugarcane | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
on the Sosumar plantation, or they opt out and are given | 0:26:01 | 0:26:06 | |
a new piece of land outside the project area as compensation. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:11 | |
Land isn't the only valuable commodity here. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
To make way for the pivots, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
Sosumar must cut down thousands of karite trees, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
used to make shea butter, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
an important source of income for local women. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
-We have some karite trees. -There? | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
That one, yeah. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
Now those that have to be removed... | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
Yeah. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
-That's where we have the issue. -We have to replant them. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
We replant more than the number we take away. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
The grafted species of karite can produce after six years. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
So then the population actually gets a young productive tree | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
versus the old ones. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
Some of these aren't even producing any more. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
So it's a real win-win. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
Well, they have a few years they won't have any income though. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
Sosumar's funding from the African Development Bank | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
comes with conditions attached. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
They must follow strict guidelines on involuntary displacement, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
or the treatment of farmers who lose their land because of the project. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:26 | |
-Bonjour. -Ca va? | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
-Bonjour. -Ca va bien. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
A series of attacks at the sugar-cane site | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
is complicating matters. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
Change is difficult for everyone. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
It's more difficult for those that had the least change | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
and traditionally haven't had change. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
Because they don't know it. It's the unknown. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
But the key is, the scratch peasant farmer to become slowly, with time, | 0:32:26 | 0:32:33 | |
a small commercial farmer and then a larger commercial farmer. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
But if you want to be so respectful | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
that you say, "Any change in my input is not good." | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
Then you know what, pack your bags and leave. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
Then what's the point of being here? What is the point of being here? | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
On behalf of the Partnership to Cut Hunger and Poverty in Africa, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
I want to welcome you to this symposium. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
On my left, we have the Minister of Agriculture from Mali. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
Welcome, Minister. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
In this case, I will help translate for the minister. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
AUDIENCE LAUGH | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
We are partners after all. Have been for ten years in Mali. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
So this is all an extension of our partnership. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
We were all equally struck as others by the food crisis of 2008 and 2009. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
Nick, it's Mima. I think we've got a bad connection. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
Can you hear me OK or not? | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
DIAL TONE | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
I got cut off. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
I'm trying to get the date for the closing of all of the | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
financing by end of the year so we can get on with the groundbreaking. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
That's the target. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
OK, Nick. Can you hear me? | 0:36:27 | 0:36:28 | |
I am outside now, hopefully we've got better connection. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
Can you hear me OK? | 0:36:31 | 0:36:32 | |
Has the Minister responded to your letter on that December launch? | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
All right, so in a kind of a back-assed way, we're getting there. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
I mean, this project Markala Sugar, Sosumar is the definer of projects. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:50 | |
I mean, this will be THE largest investment of its kind | 0:36:50 | 0:36:55 | |
in agro-industry in Africa today. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
You know, Africa is coming to its real fruition | 0:36:59 | 0:37:04 | |
in terms of real business, real potential coming up, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
so this is not the time to hang up the boots. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
AUDIENCE APPLAUD | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
We're beginning to see real anger about people losing their land, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:31 | |
and we know already that many civil wars and social conflict | 0:38:31 | 0:38:36 | |
is driven by land grievance, particularly in Africa. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
Rwanda, there were elements of that, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
certainly Sudan, Liberia, Sierra Leone, South Africa. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:47 | |
So we can expect a lot of conflict, a lot of protest on the issue of | 0:38:47 | 0:38:54 | |
is this our land, or is this government land to give away? | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
We're not trying to impose timelines on anybody, | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
but we do want everybody to work out with our set-up | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
timelines which are realistic and achievable. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
And then everybody commit to actually getting there. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
We have to get it done this time. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
Cheers, man. Ciao. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
They have to go to the National Assembly to re-ratify | 0:41:02 | 0:41:06 | |
and after that... | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
HE GROANS | 0:41:08 | 0:41:09 | |
Then they can do the launching. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
That's fine. We all understand that as well, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
but we need a roadmap through to the end of this process | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
so that people can see what steps are going to have to happen | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
in what order. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:28 | |
We don't have one just now and we're crazy if we just say, | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
"Let's go one step and then see where we are after one step". | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
We're mad, we're irresponsible. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:36 | |
If we want to carry on defending this current timeline, | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
then you would have to ask the board now, | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
this board meeting for another 70 millions RAMs, | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
another 10 million US, just to take us through to March. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:09 | |
So, to de-risk this thing, | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
basically, anything that's a new commitment to the project, | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
we stop it. And we stop it like now. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
Almost like a crash stop. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
Yeah. Yeah. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:26 | |
But still, I think there are options... | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
It's a simple fact. The money has run out. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
There is nothing left in the account. Let's look at the bank account. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
Zero. How much can I spend out of zero? Zero. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
Thank you very much. So that's... So now, what happens next? | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
Mali is a personal issue in that... | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
..maybe not even 100 kilometres from here, back in 1990... | 0:43:26 | 0:43:31 | |
That's what? 22 years now. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
I had a major car accident and I lost my father. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
I survived. I don't know why. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
Maybe to do this. So at certain points, you know, | 0:43:40 | 0:43:44 | |
when the President says, "Why are you so tetu? | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
"Why are you so hard-headed in making this go? | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
"It's difficult, bag it." | 0:43:48 | 0:43:50 | |
I said, "No, I can't." It has to happen because at some point | 0:43:50 | 0:43:54 | |
when this is up and running and as the area's developed, | 0:43:54 | 0:43:57 | |
then we see the change in the people, and it gets going, | 0:43:57 | 0:44:01 | |
I will then go left on that road when we turn right, | 0:44:01 | 0:44:03 | |
another 100 kilometres towards where that accident site is, | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
and say, "OK, let's break the spirit now." | 0:44:06 | 0:44:08 | |
These farms, if they are structured properly, | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
they will start to function as schools. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
Training Africans to upgrade their labour. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
And this is Africa's weakest link, | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
the absence of enterprises through which people can | 0:45:10 | 0:45:13 | |
acquire practical skills. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:14 | |
How much are we running into the caretaker administration | 0:46:16 | 0:46:20 | |
waiting for elections to happen? | 0:46:20 | 0:46:22 | |
When we're under election period it's more difficult. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:25 | |
But how important is it for the President to have a groundbreaking | 0:46:25 | 0:46:28 | |
while he's still president? | 0:46:28 | 0:46:30 | |
Very important for him. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:32 | |
As a matter of fact, the Minister herself, | 0:46:32 | 0:46:36 | |
she said to the Prime Minister that we think that we may be | 0:46:36 | 0:46:40 | |
ready for groundbreaking in December. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
What needs to be done? | 0:46:43 | 0:46:45 | |
What still can be done or should be done, must be done informally. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
I guess that's what needs to be done. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
I'm sure formally we're doing everything. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
GUNFIRE | 0:49:27 | 0:49:28 | |
Mali's coup came just a month before the Presidential elections. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:12 | |
Soldiers, angry about the government's handling | 0:50:12 | 0:50:15 | |
of a separatist uprising in the north, rebelled. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:19 | |
The Government simply melted away. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
This past year, the administration put in a caretaker government, | 0:50:25 | 0:50:30 | |
waiting for the elections to happen. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:32 | |
Nobody was making decisions | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
and that frustration, ironically, was what the military felt when they | 0:50:34 | 0:50:38 | |
weren't getting responses when they were fighting their war up north. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:41 | |
In a kidding sense, | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
I was thinking with our partners maybe we should have invaded | 0:50:43 | 0:50:45 | |
the Ministry of Industry because they were not responding. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:48 | |
The next day, Sosumar began to withdraw all its foreign employees. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:55 | |
Banks froze their lending to Mali and Sosumar's funding dried up. | 0:50:56 | 0:51:03 | |
Neighbouring investors, that had ignored the needs of local farmers, | 0:51:07 | 0:51:12 | |
continued with their industrial operations, | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
while Mima's more progressive dreams lay in tatters. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:19 | |
There will be a lot of disappointed people. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
A lot of disappointed people. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:37 | |
Mima turned his attention to Nigeria. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:42 | |
As the country tries to wean itself off decades of oil dependency, | 0:51:44 | 0:51:50 | |
Nigeria is aggressively courting agri-business investment. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:55 | |
We have stopped treating agriculture as a development project. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:58 | |
Because it is not a development project. Agriculture is a business. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:03 | |
It's got to be structured exactly that way. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
CROWD APPLAUD | 0:52:05 | 0:52:07 | |
-Nice to meet you. -Thank you very much. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:15 | |
As you said in your presentation, | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
agriculture for me has to be scaled up. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
At the same time, that does not mean land grabbing, so for us, | 0:52:21 | 0:52:24 | |
the critical part is all of our projects integrate the community | 0:52:24 | 0:52:27 | |
and the contract growers and independent growers. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:30 | |
Call them what you want, | 0:52:30 | 0:52:31 | |
but the individual growers are brought into the scheme. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
What do I see in Nigeria? | 0:52:34 | 0:52:36 | |
The Minister, the Government says, "OK, here's our vision. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:39 | |
"This is how we envision to develop agriculture in our country." | 0:52:39 | 0:52:45 | |
All right. Thank you. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:46 | |
We did not get that from Mali. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:50 | |
That vision, and that concerted commitment to the vision, | 0:52:50 | 0:52:56 | |
was not there. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
For Ibrahima, the coup seems like an opportunity, | 0:53:06 | 0:53:11 | |
a chance to return to the food sovereignty policies of pre-2008. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:16 | |
But as with Mima, | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
his path is clouded by the uncertainties of Mali's future. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:42 | |
You would think that in 2012 | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
things would be getting better for the global poor. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:10 | |
In actual fact, they are being assaulted on all sides. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:14 | |
Farming is becoming harder with climate change. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:17 | |
Water is less available. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:19 | |
And then on top of that, they are facing | 0:56:19 | 0:56:23 | |
whole new levels of vulnerability with their land rights. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:28 | |
Do we expect them to take this lying down? | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
Or if we are more realistic, | 0:56:31 | 0:56:33 | |
will we see a 21st century agrarian population resist and could | 0:56:33 | 0:56:39 | |
this lead to quite significant social conflict and even civil war? | 0:56:39 | 0:56:44 | |
We've moved away from not talking about it. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
We now have to move to actually being able to do it. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:01 | |
Get insights into land rights and food security in Africa. Go to: | 0:57:41 | 0:57:46 | |
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