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The Lakelands of Fermanagh. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
For centuries, a place of spiritual retreat. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
For seven days, the stunning island of Lusty Beg has become home | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
to three courageous families from Northern Ireland. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
They're attempting a radical change to their diet and lifestyles | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
in a bid to lose weight and live healthier lives. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
This week, here at Lusty Beg for the three families, | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
is about us tackling the issue of their weight problems from every which angle. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
For Isobel, Nick and daughter Rachael, | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
Ryan, Ellie, Mum Cara, and Stepdad Johnny, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
and for mother and daughter Rosie and Ellen, | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
it's about letting go of the past and looking to a better future. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:47 | |
I feel as if I sort of need him. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
But he's not there. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
Under the guidance of a team of experts | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
in nutrition, fitness and psychotherapy | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
the families are facing an intensive mind, body and spirit experience. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:04 | |
It's a week of challenges, both for the families... | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
On Friday, I want you to run a mile with me. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
...and for the experts... | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
I suppose your question to me is, | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
-because you're sitting quietly, are you going to give us anything? -Precisely! | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
Above all, it's a journey of self-discovery. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
I don't know whether losing the weight and becoming slim again | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
is going to make me that person again. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
Am I not already that person? | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
It's day three on the island | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
and the families are settling into a new routine. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
They're trying to build in regular exercise - | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
a habit which, if kept up, will help them with permanent weight loss. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
I'm knackered! | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
And they're making healthier food choices, | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
which includes starting the day with breakfast. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
-Well? -It's OK. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
-Just OK? -Well, it needs sugar. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
The children, like two thirds of kids in Northern Ireland, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
get nowhere near the recommended levels of physical exercise. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
Personal trainer John Coulter aims to change that this week. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
Two, one... | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
And... Collapse! | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
We're going to make sure we're ready to get started. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
-What? We haven't started? -We haven't even started yet. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
We're just warming up, Ryan. You're doing well. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
-Morning. -Good morning. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
While John works on the kids' motivation, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
clinical psychologist Dr Raman Kapur welcomes the parents | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
to his group therapy session. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
It doesn't take long to get going. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
People think fat people are lazy. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
People get the impression | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
that you're fat because you go home and you never do anything. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
Because all you do is sit and eat. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
In fact, we have busy lives. We're doing busy jobs. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
We're juggling many balls | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
and, unfortunately, I think this is one that just has fallen. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
I thought the grass was greener on the other side. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
Everybody else's family sitting there doing healthy things, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
just a nice family unit. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
And then you realise that the rut we're in, | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
an awful lot of families are the same. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
I know I can eat the healthy stuff, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
I know I can do the exercise when I put my mind to it. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
It's just overcoming the side that says you can't do it. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:43 | |
But the battleground is in your head. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
And perhaps that's where, quite understandably, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
you think I can give you some tips on how to manage that. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
You say you're on one side of the minefield | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
and you have to get to the other side, and best of luck. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
Whereas, there's the other side of the minefield. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
Here's a map and compass. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:00 | |
It's up to you to get through using the tools. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
The experts will give you some of the tools and the compass. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
Your question to me is, "What's your flipping compass and tool? | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
"You're sitting there quietly. Are you going to give us anything?" | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
-Precisely! -I know! OK! | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
I think what happens with a lot of people | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
is they immediately put into the expert | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
all of the capacity to make things better. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
And they can often feel that | 0:04:27 | 0:04:28 | |
they want the expert to do a bit of magic. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
But if I collude with the part of them | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
that wants me to do the work for them, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
I'm disabling them, in my view. Cos I'm basically saying, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
"You be passive, give it to me to sort out." | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
Life's not like that. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:42 | |
Certainly, in my view, effective therapeutic work isn't like that. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
John has got the children behaving like children and having some fun. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:56 | |
A simple game of tag has them out of breath, which is key | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
to increasing cardiovascular fitness. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
Ideally, they'd be doing a minimum of an hour's exercise every day. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
The girls are still enjoying the game, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
but Ryan suddenly seems to have had enough. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
John wants to find out what the problem is and keep Ryan motivated. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:26 | |
How are you, Ryan? A bit tired? | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
How's the asthma? OK? | 0:05:29 | 0:05:30 | |
It's not that. It's everything else, really. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
Really? What was it? | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
It's just the way that I'm sick of everyone going for me. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
You got chased down a bit? | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
What happened? You got away from them all. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
And you got me. You got me twice! | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
Yeah, but it tired me out. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
It really got your fitness level? Think about that as a positive. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
You're able to get away, and run around a bit. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
You're able to work that bit harder. You did well today. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
It just annoyed me as well because my asthma would stop it. | 0:05:55 | 0:06:00 | |
If it plays up, even if I'm so fit to do it, I can't do it. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
That side of the story, get your breathing down as well. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
We'll work on it when you're doing some running. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
We'll have a look at how you can get your breathing better. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
I know certainly it troubled me when I was younger. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
It is that difficulty. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
But your fitness levels are good and you'll hopefully grow out of it, more importantly. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
You did really well. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
With reassurance from John that his asthma needn't hold him back, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:28 | |
Ryan will be able to work on his fitness over the week. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
In the meantime, the children have | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
a group session with clinical psychologist, Dr Rachel Andrew. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
In yesterday's session, the children each showed photos of themselves. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
One which they liked and one which they didn't feel so good about. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
Today, they start work on leaving negative emotions behind. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
What I wanted us to do is have a think about the feelings that we had | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
looking at those photographs. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
I had written some things down that I had thought | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
stood out for me yesterday. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
Maybe that there were some feelings of being angry or sad. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:06 | |
I thought what would be helpful | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
is for us to start to write down some of those feelings. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
And I wanted us to write them on the stones in the middle. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
Ellen, when you looked at that picture, how did it make you feel? | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
Sort of angry at myself. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
-Right. -In a way. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
-I got upset as well. -Right. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
I think sometimes the link between weight and the way | 0:07:25 | 0:07:30 | |
people think and feel about themselves can be a direct one. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:36 | |
But I think sometimes it can be much more hidden. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
When I took the picture I didn't feel anything - just happy I was on holiday with my family. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
But every time I look at it, it makes me feel | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
like I've just thrown everything away that I think was good. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
Oh, right. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
-That makes -me -feel sad when you say it. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
But also, there's a huge amount of responsibility | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
that you feel it's your fault? | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
Sometimes... | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
Sometimes I was the one that said I wanted the take-out | 0:08:05 | 0:08:11 | |
or if I didn't want to. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
Sometimes I always wanted to do it but sometimes I didn't. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
And when you talk to your friends, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
would they be able to be in charge of getting takeaways and food? | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
Sometimes no. Because my friends, they get a treat every Saturday. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:28 | |
-Yeah. -You see? -Yeah. -And the rest of the day, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
her mum or dad would make her something. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
-Because her mum or dad would be coming home earlier. -Right. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
The children are doing well, putting their thoughts into words. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
But Rachael's mum, Isobel, in her first one-on-one session with Raman, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
is still finding it all a bit of a struggle. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
It's always difficult to start and knowing where to start. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
There's too much going on and I don't know where to start. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
For Isobel, it's not so much about losing weight. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
It's more about not passing on her own insecurities | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
and poor relationship with food to her daughter. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
I don't want to be a stick insect. I'm happy enough having my curves. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
I'm 45. I don't want to be a supermodel. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
I just want to be healthy and still be around to help Rachael. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
Because Rachael's going the way... | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
To me, she's a wee pudding at the minute. But she is only 10. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
-I don't want her growing up with -my -hang-ups. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:36 | |
Perhaps you are worried about | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
making a go at talking about it for fear of getting it wrong? | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
As I've said previously, it's that big thing at the back of my mind | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
of being the failure that I think I am. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
It does seem that it's this | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
feeling and conviction that you're a failure the really brings you down? | 0:09:53 | 0:09:58 | |
Yeah. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
And it may not be true. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:01 | |
You have almost forfeited your right to have ideas or have your own feelings and your own personality. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:09 | |
It's hard to get the words. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
I know the feelings but I can't get the words. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
You're doing OK. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
It's strange. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:19 | |
Very strange. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
You don't know what he's thinking. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
And then you find yourself going off on a tangent. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
Again, it's that, "What's he thinking and how is he judging you?" | 0:10:26 | 0:10:31 | |
Isobel is convinced that other people are judging her critically | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
and that comes from this conviction that she has about herself | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
that every time she judges herself, she is bad. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
She was looking to me to not only ask her how to start the session but worrying about my judgment. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:48 | |
Which, inevitably, she thought was going to be bad. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
So she's not really giving herself much of a chance in her own world. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
What happens very quickly in your mind, | 0:10:55 | 0:11:01 | |
because you don't like yourself, you can immediately feel that other people don't like you. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:06 | |
And then that just becomes a truth in your mind. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:11 | |
It's as if you've never really had an experience of just feeling good about you are. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:17 | |
As a person. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
No. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:23 | |
I suppose that feeling was reinforced with the break-up of the first marriage. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:30 | |
Whenever he left, I thought, "Oh, that definitely confirms it". | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
"I mustn't have been a nice person, he hasn't stuck around." | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
I suppose there has been no real closure there either | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
because I don't know what went wrong. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
Just to be told one day, "I don't love you no more, and that's it". | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
If things do go wrong in life, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
the you that accuses yourself of being a failure sees that almost as a feast. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:56 | |
So the whole failure thing is like a snowball that just gathers itself up, you know? | 0:11:56 | 0:12:03 | |
And the successful you, and the good you, gets squashed. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
Yes. That's all the right words. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
The five adults know they're going to have to make serious changes when it comes to exercise | 0:12:18 | 0:12:23 | |
as part of their new regime. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
Perfect, Isobel. Stay with that, nice and low. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
Quick flick and drive it up. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
John's got a good fun role this week because he's getting to work out the families. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:40 | |
Breathe in as you come back down. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
Perfect, just keep the heels grounded. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
It means basically making exercise fun | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
and in the long-term trying to get them motivated to build exercise into their life. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:52 | |
Because that's not only going to make the weight loss easier, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
it also brings great mental health benefits if people start to exercise regularly. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
You're pushing now, working really hard. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
Johnny, you're making that look easy. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
If I had a heavy one I'd give it to you! | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
It's important to build confidence in individuals to see what they achieve. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
I know that more than anything as a personal trainer. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
Individuals don't necessarily know their true potential. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
It's trying to set them challenges and motivate them | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
to get through barriers that they put up. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
Because a lot of the time they're psychological barriers. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
Keep a nice, steady pace. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
Absolutely perfect pace, Isobel. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
Goals are very important in general. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
People get lost if they turn up for the sake of turning up. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
It's all well and good training three times a week, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
but without a specific target, it's very hard to get anywhere. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
We're getting good. We're going to add 15 seconds to this one, OK? | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
15 seconds more to go. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:44 | |
-You're cruel, John! -I am cruel. I get worse! | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
Take a breath, get the oxygen in. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
I've got a little surprise to tell you about. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
You'll love this. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:54 | |
I want to set a challenge for you. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
On Friday, I want you to run a mile with me. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
And the incentive is, there's a huge bar of chocolate in his back pocket. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:09 | |
If I had to do that and put a bar of choc in my back pocket, I will. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
If that's the motivation you need, we'll do it. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
'I think a mile's a significant enough distance | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
'for them to understand, wait a second, I can do this.' | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
Squeeze, drag. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
'I maybe couldn't walk to the end of the street and now I'm running,' | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
jogging, crawling a mile to get through that. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
That's something they can then take away | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
and build on and enhance throughout the coming weeks hopefully. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
Amanda's nutritional philosophy doesn't include banning foods. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:44 | |
It's all about moderation. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
The session making tasty sugar-free chocolate gives her a chance | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
to discuss this with the children. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
'We all know just how much peril | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
'these families are putting themselves in. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
'We know this is, or could well be, a life or death situation | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
'for these families, but we've got to make it fun.' | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
You can't just tell them what to do and expect them to do it. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
They have to be engaged with it, get it from inside them, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
especially when you're dealing with kids. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
There's no point standing up there like a strict teacher | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
and expecting them to toe the line. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
-So how many sweeties would you get in a day? -One or two. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
One or two? What's that? One or two individual ones | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
or one or two bars of chocolate or one or two...? | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
Probably bars of chocolate. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:29 | |
So how many times a week do you think you should be allowed to eat sweets? | 0:15:29 | 0:15:35 | |
Every day! | 0:15:35 | 0:15:36 | |
But if you were trying to be healthy and lose a bit of weight? | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
Once a week. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:41 | |
So would you rather have it for one day and at the weekend and make it really special? | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
Yep. Something to look forward to. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
'I think we have adopted, as a society, somehow the fact | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
'that we use food as praise, it's how we give love.' | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
But when there's no boundaries left | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
and when there's none of that parenting where it requires you | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
as a parent to maybe feel, I don't feel good about saying no, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
and they're crying, and they're upset, but still you have to do it. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
I think we're having to bring that back into these families | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
because that's been lost. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
Creating these new boundaries and saying no to sweets | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
and takeaways isn't going to be easy. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
The important thing for Amanda is to give them a realistic alternative. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
By cooking today's thinner dinner for the rest of the group, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
Cara, Johnny and the kids will have a healthy recipe to take home with them. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
So what we're going to do, just like before, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
is a twist on a family favourite. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
Tonight being pizza. Yay! | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
At home, the family don't spend much time in each other's company. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:47 | |
Cara and Johnny's busy working patterns include regular evening shifts. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
That means they rarely eat together as a family, let alone cook together. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
The convenient thing is that the children go to Cara's mother's | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
in the evening and have their meal there | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
and then we sort of do our own thing. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
But we'd do a lot of calling in to hers, | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
having tea and having tea out. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
'We need to start a new routine, sit down together for breakfast, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:14 | |
'start cooking a tea, even if it's a snack for the children,' | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
altogether, so that it's registering that we've had it. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:22 | |
We've got two sachets of yeast... | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
Hidden fats, sugars and additives in foods are a real hazard. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:30 | |
Home-made dough, flour, yeast, olive oil, water and a little salt | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
avoids the problem. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:35 | |
Could you take the flour shaker | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
and shake quite a lot of flour onto your worktop and then... | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
-Is that enough? -Perfect. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
Amanda doesn't believe that the families need to give up pizza altogether. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:50 | |
In fact, because all the children love pizza, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
it's an easy way to introduce more vegetables into their diets | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
by having a variety of delicious, fresh toppings to choose from. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
The fat content can be controlled by going easy on the cheese | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
and it's simply fun to make your own. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
Ten minutes in the oven will do the job. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
Chef Sue's tomato sauce has nothing but good ingredients too. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
Tomatoes, garlic, olive oil and fresh basil. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:18 | |
Raw veggies with a yoghurt and cucumber dip | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
are perfect to keep appetites under control until the pizzas are served. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
Oh my goodness! Wow! | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
The meal is met with wholehearted approval. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
Very, very tasty. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
Do you think that, Ryan, if you make things yourself, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
you might eat them more? | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
-Um, maybe. -Yeah? | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
Once a week now, pizza night. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
Having worked with the children as a group, Rachel has arranged | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
follow-up sessions where she also meets their parents. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
Today, she's seeing single mum Rosie and her daughter Ellen. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
What a fantastic daughter you've got, really. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
I guess you already know that. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
She's so thoughtful, so insightful and articulate. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
Do you know that about yourself that those are real strengths of yours? | 0:19:18 | 0:19:24 | |
No. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
Mum, you seem quite emotional? | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
It's just lovely to hear somebody say those things about her. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
You know, those are the sides of her that I see. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
I think she is a very mature girl for her age, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
I think she's got very good coping skills. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
And yes, she is quiet, and she has always been very quiet... | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
'I think with most families, there's an obvious' | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
power dynamic which is that parents are in charge | 0:19:49 | 0:19:54 | |
and that children kind of do as they are told. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
'So often within family sessions I might try to mix that up a bit, | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
'just by asking particular questions, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
'and I think by doing that,' | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
family sessions then can bring up all sorts of issues | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
that parents can just be unaware of. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
Can I just ask a little bit about Dad? | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
I don't know if he's somebody that you would want to say a lot about, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
but can I ask about... Do you still see Dad? | 0:20:18 | 0:20:23 | |
Not really, actually. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
Not very much these past few years, no. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
-Really? -Maybe once a year. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
And is that something that you're OK with? | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
Yeah, I don't really mind it, I suppose. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
I guess, Ellen, I can kind of see it's really... | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
an emotional thing for you. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
Sometimes, um... | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
I feel as if I sort of need him. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
-But he's not there. -Um... | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
And is Dad the sort of person who you'd have an opportunity | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
to say something like that to? | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
Because Ellen's dad hasn't been there from the very beginning. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:33 | |
And really they've only ever seen him | 0:21:33 | 0:21:38 | |
at Christmas for a very brief time or whatever. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
There's not a relationship there. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
But did it surprise you a little bit getting emotional about it? | 0:21:44 | 0:21:49 | |
Yeah. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
I never really thought I would. I never have before. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
No? | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
I don't think I've ever really thought about it before. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
As the day draws to a close and night falls, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
the adults make their way into the forest, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
where Amanda has asked them to meet her. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
This is probably the most important thing we've done so far. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
It's called a truth circle, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
and this is based on a Native American ritual | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
where you gather round, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
the person holding the stick gets to air their truth without fear of | 0:22:35 | 0:22:41 | |
any judgement or recrimination. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
They're allowed to say what they want, what they feel. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
This truth circle's really the point at which we want to open up. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:52 | |
Who wants to begin? | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
You'll get the feeling, I think, for what feels right. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
One thing that I feel right now | 0:23:02 | 0:23:07 | |
is being with two couples, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
and seeing the support that you guys give each other, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
or not, as the case may be. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
I feel maybe a wee bit isolated. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
Also, some issues have come up around our family | 0:23:22 | 0:23:29 | |
and Ellen's relationship with her father, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
or lack of relationship, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:33 | |
so I guess we need to have a conversation | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
and tell her how it is, how it was. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
And that has been very eye opening for me today. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:45 | |
Unlike Cara... | 0:23:46 | 0:23:47 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
I never wanted, really, to be here. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
It is an issue within our house about food and how food's used. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:56 | |
And I can use it as a stick and as a carrot. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
And, talking the other day in my one-to-one session, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
I really seen that, that I can use it, you know, for a treat, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:08 | |
or I can use it to take away. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
And that's a very controlling thing. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
I am happy with the person that I am. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
I know I make jokes when I shouldn't or last things off, | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
but that's who I am. I try to be upbeat. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
And sometimes people lose the weight and they actually lose themselves. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
You know, the food's getting nicer, which amazes me. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
Maybe Amanda's starting to let us have a bit more, I don't know. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
The hunger pangs are going. I'm really looking forward | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
to the next few days. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:38 | |
It just keeps getting better, like. I'm amazed. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
Just talking through the fact that I have never been, um, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:48 | |
a slim person, and perhaps I'm using food as a comfort, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:55 | |
as a defence. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
As a human trait, I'd like, or I want to be liked | 0:24:57 | 0:25:03 | |
and I can't be myself. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
I have to put the mask on. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
Wanting to be liked, wanting to be accepted, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
not being who I think I am or who I want to be. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
Having this idea that I was a better, nicer person when I was younger and slimmer, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:22 | |
and I don't know whether losing the weight | 0:25:22 | 0:25:27 | |
and becoming slim again is going to make me that person again, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
because am I not already that person? | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
-What do you think? Are you already that person? -No. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
And that's another thing we're going to be talking to Raman about, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
if he ever speaks. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
I'm used to working with adults, not so much with children. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
And they are the best teachers. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
And they actually were telling me, in a roundabout way, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
and I believe it's happened in other sessions as well, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
for what they're looking for from all of you as parents. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
And they're looking for boundaries. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
It's not easy. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
When you hear your kid crying and they're going to their room, it feels horrible. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
You're thinking, "Am I being a bad parent because I'm saying no? | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
"I'm not giving them what they are asking for." | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
There's no such thing as an expert, really. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
You know, we learn... | 0:26:25 | 0:26:26 | |
I've learned a lot over the years but you are your own experts. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
You're the one that's going to have to make the decisions when you go home. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
My only concern, my only real concern, is about boundaries. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
It's been a long day | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
and the group has made real progress. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
It's been a genuine turning point as they begin to understand | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
better that this experience isn't just about food, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
it's about nurturing and feeding their minds, bodies and souls. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:08 | |
Really like stepping out of everyday life just into | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
something completely different, something where you have time | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
to concentrate on yourself. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
I have allowed life to live me for such a long time, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:22 | |
and I haven't really lived life. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
It's more than just nutrition, it's more than just exercise. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:33 | |
There is a sense of looking deeper into where maybe | 0:27:33 | 0:27:38 | |
psychological issues are. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
Whenever my mum said no, I do remember feeling unloved. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:49 | |
And I don't want Rachel to feel that way, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
I don't want her sitting in her room crying and thinking, | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
"My mummy doesn't love me." | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
Next time, there are a few surprises in store. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
I got a bit of a surprise. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
Maybe I'll take it out of the box marked 'new-age mumbo-jumbo' | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
and pay a bit more attention to it. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
But it doesn't stop there - things are getting intimate. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
-Are you ready for me to insert? -Oh... | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
Great work... | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
-And emotional. -And some people even... | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
you would hear them saying something | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
and I'd feel like saying, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
"You know, I know I'm fat but I'm not deaf." | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
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