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I'm Owen, I'm 19, I'm bisexual, | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
and I've decided to come out to my parents. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
But I'm worrying about it. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
I want to just be happy. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
And I want to love who I love, | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
whether that's a guy or girl. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
OK. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:29 | |
I love you. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
-VOICE ON PHONE: -I love you, too. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:32 | |
I am bisexual. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
Now I can be who I want to be, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
which is myself. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
Coming out's going to be tough | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
because people just don't seem to get bisexuality. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
-CHRISTOPHER BIGGINS ON TV: -I think the worst type, though, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
is, I'm afraid to say, the bisexuals. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
People think, because you're bisexual, you're really slutty. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
"You must get so much more action." | 0:01:01 | 0:01:02 | |
Like, no! Just because I like both doesn't mean I like everyone. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
It's ridiculous. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
I know I'm into both guys and girls, but because of all of this hate, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:12 | |
it's taken me a while to accept myself. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
I'm not like everybody else. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:15 | |
Why am I not like everybody else? | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
You just feel, like, fractured. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
You don't really know who you are any more. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
I'm tired of hiding it, so I'm going to come out to my parents, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
and I'm going to film it. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
But, because they're not together, I'll have to do it twice. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
It's not going to be easy. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
I'm not going to do it. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:38 | |
I'm not going to do it. Just...today's not the day. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
So, here goes. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
How will they react? | 0:01:43 | 0:01:44 | |
Is this recording? Let me just check. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
Right. Here you go. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
Are they black enough? | 0:02:02 | 0:02:03 | |
This is the question. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:04 | |
Are they dark enough? | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
Do they reflect the inner workings of my soul? | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
Since I was, like, so much shorter than everyone else, | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
and I wasn't really tall or muscular or anything... | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
Oh, it's quite long. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
..I got myself into kind of a headspace where I just thought | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
I wasn't really very masculine and I felt quite weak and quite, like, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
kind of vulnerable and stuff. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
I'd feel like people were looking at me a lot, even if they weren't. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
So, I had lots of weird and insecure thoughts like that for a while. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
No. That would drown me. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
I mean, some insecurities still affect me now, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
but I just kind of learned to deal with it a bit more now, | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
rather than just kind of worry about it all the time. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
I do like it. I just wish they did smaller sizes for me. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
When I was about 15, 16, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
that's when I first started to kind of question my sexuality. | 0:02:55 | 0:03:00 | |
Because a lot of people at school, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
they'd talk about, like, sex and people they liked and stuff, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
and I wasn't really comfortable doing that at all, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
which made me think, "Why am I not comfortable talking about this kind | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
"of stuff with people?" | 0:03:13 | 0:03:14 | |
But I used to play this game, where if I was in assembly and stuff | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
and people were walking in, I used to think, "Do I fancy them? | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
"Do I like them? What about them do I like?" | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
And I'd do it with both, like, guys and girls as well. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
But that's when I started to realise, like, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
oh, yeah, I definitely like both, but, at that time, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
I wasn't really ready to confront that or admit that. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
I think you have to be in a quite stable and comfortable place | 0:03:40 | 0:03:45 | |
with yourself first about wanting to come out. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
So, for a long time, I didn't really accept it about myself, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
but then I realised that nothing's going to change | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
if you don't make an effort to change it. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
I've come to the realisation now that I know, absolutely, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:04 | |
that I am bisexual. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
It's not something for me to question any more, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
because only I know me. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:10 | |
I'm a student in my first year studying psychology. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
I've put a few pictures up. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
You can have a look if you want. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:20 | |
Oh, it's so cringey. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
I've joined Tindr and I've made it clear on my profile that I'm bi. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
You can set your preference for, like, men and women, or just men, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
or just women or whatever. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:33 | |
I really want to date someone or be with somebody who is absolutely | 0:04:35 | 0:04:40 | |
fine with who I'm attracted to. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
I don't want to, like, mislead anyone and I didn't want to | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
get matched with somebody who would be, "Oh, you're bi." | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
So, I didn't want to get matched with somebody | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
who wasn't accepting of it. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:55 | |
You're my only gay best friend. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
I'm not even gay, mate. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:04 | |
All right, you're the only person who's not straight. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
-I'm just your non-straight best friend. -Exactly. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
Look at this. Just look. Just... | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
Like, that's been there a week! | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
That's not edible any more. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:14 | |
-MAN ON RADIO: -You get people saying things like, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
"Have you ever met a bisexual?" | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
I mean, is anyone actually 50-50? | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
-WOMAN ON RADIO: -Decide. Get off the fence. You're greedy. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
Blah, blah, blah... There's all these assumptions about people | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
who are attracted to more than one gender. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:28 | |
We have to teach people not just that you can be straight | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
or you can be gay, but there's so many different ways that you can be. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
-VOICE ON TV: -If you're gay, you know it. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
I think the worst type, though, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
is, I'm afraid to say, the bisexuals. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
-That upsets me. -Yeah. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
-You have to pick a team. -Yeah. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:43 | |
What it is, is people not wanting to admit they're gay. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
Please pick a team. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
You can pick any one you want. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:49 | |
I totally agree. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
His logic is just baffling. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
He doesn't know how I feel. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:54 | |
And he doesn't know what I experience, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
so how can he say that all bisexuals just need to pick a side | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
because they're really just secretly gay? | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
It makes no sense. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
Online, you can start to see a lot of hatred. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:09 | |
I saw more and more and more of it and I was in this kind of emotional, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
emotionally vulnerable place. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
"If you come out of nowhere and all of a sudden you're saying, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
"'Oh, I'm bisexual, take it or leave it,' | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
"then you deserve a slap in the face." | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
Oh, "No such thing as bi. They're just horny." | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
They're calling it an epidemic, that we're coming out as bisexual. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
So, making us sound like a disease, so thank you for that. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
To see this crap, basically, can be quite damaging to somebody | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
who's so vulnerable and still kind of figuring themselves out, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
and they're going through puberty and, you know, still working out | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
the world and where they fit into it. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
I kind of internalised a lot of that kind of stuff. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
So I was saying things to myself in my head like, "I think I'm bisexual, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
"but what happens if I'm just pretending? | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
"What happens if I am just secretly gay and I don't want to admit it? | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
"What happens if I am just being this, you know, kind of promiscuous | 0:07:09 | 0:07:14 | |
"person where I just want more than I can have or whatever?" | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
You just kind of feel, like, fractured. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:25 | |
You don't really know who you are any more. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
We should probably go that way, cos that's where all the action is. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
Oh, all the action! | 0:07:36 | 0:07:37 | |
This is G-A-Y bar. It's, you know, really well-known. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
I've never actually been to a gay bar, to be honest. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
-You've never been to a gay bar? -No. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
Oh, my God! You're in for such a treat. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
I'm looking forward to talking face to face with bi activist Lewis | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
about being bisexual. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
"It doubles your chances on a Friday night." | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
Like, I've heard this one so much more. Like, ah, people think | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
because you're bisexual, you're really slutty. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
You must get so much more action, like, that kind of thing. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
It's like, no! Just because I like both doesn't mean I like everyone. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
It's ridiculous. Of course not. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
A few of my friends have said that. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
Like, "Yeah, you've got twice as many people you can date." | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
I'm like, no. If you think about it, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
I can only date someone who accepts bisexual people. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
Try and find the fraction of people that is. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
Yeah, exactly. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:27 | |
A lot of people say, "Oh, I'm bi," | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
and then come out as gay a few years later, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
and I think that's where a lot of the stigma comes from. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
So many, like, gay guys think that me being bisexual isn't true. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
They'll try and convince you it's a phase. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
I was at this, kind of, house party and there was this girl | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
who identified as a lesbian there, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
and I was talking about how I was bi, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
and she said, "Oh, yeah, I used to identify as bi | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
"and now I'm a lesbian." | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
And then she started trying to like throw herself at me | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
and touch me as much as possible | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
and I felt really, really uncomfortable with it. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
And she was like, "Oh, honey, you're gay. You're gay." | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
And I'm like, no, I'm just uncomfortable with you thinking you | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
can come into my personal space and test me for your own amusement. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
That's not OK. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
I think there's a lot of that, where people are like, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
-if you're not attracted to me, you're obviously the other. -Mm. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
Meeting Lewis was really helpful and useful to me, actually. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
That's because a lot of the things I could identify with. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
It was good that we talked about some of the issues that we think | 0:09:30 | 0:09:35 | |
bisexual people face. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
I still feel in the dark about how to actually tell Mum and Dad | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
about my bisexuality. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:47 | |
I've looked online at other people's coming out experiences and stuff, | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
and one thing they don't necessarily go into a lot of detail is, like, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
the actual practicality. | 0:09:57 | 0:09:58 | |
Like what do you, literally, say to someone. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
What do you say? What do you do? | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
How do you just like, present it and frame it? | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
They'll probably respect you more for being yourself than trying to be | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
this person that you're not... | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
I've joined the university's LGBT society and I'm going to get | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
some advice from its members about coming out. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
I've got, like, my uni self and there's the self of me at home, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
which is more reserved and trying to live this pretend life. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
So, I'm hoping to get rid of that. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
What I found made it easier was when I had something | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
to lead into that conversation. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
It made it a lot easier to talk about than just saying, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
"Oh, by the way, I'm bisexual. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
"Have fun with that now." | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
I made sure when I came out to my parents I was not framing it | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
as, like, a confession. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:54 | |
I wasn't framing it as an apology. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
I was framing it as an invitation, really, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
to be part of my life. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
This is who I am. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
I'm going to live my big, gay life, doing lots of big, gay things, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
and I won't do any big, gay things with you, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
so it doesn't really matter to you, but... | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
Yeah, I would just... | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
Yeah, just make sure that you're comfortable with it | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
and that it's a conversation that feels natural and not forced. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
I feel like I've got the practical advice I was missing. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
I don't need to be ashamed to say who I am, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
and how I word it is going to be so important. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
I need to get it right. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:34 | |
It's nice to know that once I have come out in whatever way I choose | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
and decide, that there is going to be this network here | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
which can support me, if I need it, and I can go to | 0:11:44 | 0:11:49 | |
and have some pretty fun times with. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
I've decided that this weekend is the time I'm going to come out | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
to my mum and tell her that I'm bisexual. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
We have a very close relationship. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:06 | |
It's more like brother-sister type relationship | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
rather than like mother and son. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
We're always quite open, quite honest with each other. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
My mum and dad were never really, like, married or anything. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
They split up when I was quite young. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
Me and Mum don't keep secrets from each other. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
This is the only one. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:26 | |
I hope she isn't going to be upset that I haven't told her before now. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
Mum thinks I'm back from uni for the weekend | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
to do some early Christmas shopping with her. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
Tonight, this evening, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
I'm planning to tell her and come out and tell her that I'm bisexual. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:49 | |
Erm, I was kind of joking about it, the little bit today, actually. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
Like, I said, "Oh, by the way, I've got a girlfriend at university." | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
And I was like, "Nah, only joking. I've actually got a boyfriend." | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
And then I said, "Nah, I'm only joking." | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
I'm feeling a little bit more nervous now, I think. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
Before, I was pretty calm, quite relaxed | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
and now I'm getting a bit... | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
getting a bit anxious. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
Let's go do this thing. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
Right, OK. Cool. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:16 | |
Right. That is recording, isn't it? Let me just check. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
Yeah. We don't want to do all this and it be for nothing. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
Right, Cool. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:31 | |
We touched on this yesterday, like, in a jokey way, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
but you know how I said, "Oh, I have a girlfriend. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
"No, I don't, I'm only kidding. I've actually got a boyfriend," | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
and then I was joking and stuff. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:42 | |
Would it bother you if I did have a boyfriend or anything like that? | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
No. We said that yesterday. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
If you had a girlfriend, fair enough. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
If you had a boyfriend, fair enough. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
You're still you and I won't love you any less. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
So, what would you think or feel if I told you that I'm bisexual? | 0:13:57 | 0:14:02 | |
What would you say? | 0:14:03 | 0:14:04 | |
It wouldn't bother me. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:05 | |
Like I said, you're still Owen. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
To me, I'll still love you, no matter what. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
OK. Well, I am. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
So, this is me telling you. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
As long as you're happy in what you want to do. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
You're happy, careful... | 0:14:18 | 0:14:19 | |
..it doesn't change anything about the way I feel about you at all. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:25 | |
Did you suspect anything? | 0:14:25 | 0:14:26 | |
Well, I always probably thought you were a little bit gay, really. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
Yeah. I get that. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:36 | |
Yeah, people have said that. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:37 | |
Yeah, just being at uni and stuff, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
erm, and just being round other people just helped to reconfirm | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
what I kind of already knew. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
You don't have to go back in the closet no more! | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
Oh, no, it's fine. Don't even... | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
I'm not going to start acting any different or anything. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
I'm still going to just be the same. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
-Exactly. -That's insane. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
So, let's have a little hug. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
Look, we did it. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
Yay! Let's fucking end this. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
Is that conversation over, is it? | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
-Yeah. -Any more questions to ask? -No. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
-OK, then. Bye. -Bye. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
We're done. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:13 | |
See, that just makes it more fun. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:20 | |
Who's going to go first? | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
Back at uni, me and my mates are having some end of term drinks. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
What is going on? | 0:15:26 | 0:15:27 | |
Oh, I came out to my mum and my grandparents, kind of. Yeah. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
Yeah, well done, mate. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
-Yeah, nice one, mate. -Thanks. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
Oz kind of noticed a difference. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
I told him, like, what I'd done and stuff, and he seemed to think | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
I was more confident as well and just more happy. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
Two. You choose. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
On my right, there was Katie. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
Are you just friends? | 0:15:54 | 0:15:55 | |
Erm, well, it's only been like a very recent thing, | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
but we're slightly more than friends. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
We're kind of just seeing how things go at the moment. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
When we were just, kind of, friends, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
she knew I was bisexual and it didn't seem to faze her at all. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
So, that was really cool. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:13 | |
I think I'm just far more willing now to just try dating | 0:16:14 | 0:16:19 | |
and try going out with people and stuff | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
and seeing how things go, so... | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
Was it worth two shots? | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
No, it wasn't worth two shots! | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
I don't know why I did it. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
Oh, kill me now. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:33 | |
I'm so happy it went well with Mum, | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
but I'm worried about telling Dad. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
I've got no idea how he's going to react. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
I don't really know how I'll tell Dad. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
I haven't really figured that out. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
He's quite Jack-the-Lad. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
Quite masculine and just a typical kind of guy, I guess. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:01 | |
He's a carpenter. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
I feel like my dad would be more reserved about it,, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
and he might perhaps initially question, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
"OK, why don't you just go for girls then?" | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
But it's not really like that. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:14 | |
It's like, I don't really have a choice who I like and who I fall | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
in love with and who I'm attracted to. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
I don't really have a choice in as much as, like, you didn't have | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
a choice about who you fell in love with and who you married, so... | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
I've been at home for three weeks, | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
but I've not managed to bring myself to tell Dad yet. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
It's been really playing on my mind. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
He's dropping me off and I'm going to do it now or I never will. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
So, what we've just got back to uni after Christmas and Dad's helped | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
bring my stuff in. You've been very helpful, thank you very much. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
I reckon I'd move in here myself... | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
Firstly, just to get away from me brothers. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
True, true. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:04 | |
Erm, one of the things I'm going to talk about, or touch on, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
is relationships. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:09 | |
You said the other day that you were worried about me. Why was that? | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
Because you now have a girlfriend. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
Mm-hm. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:18 | |
Erm, I don't want the emotion to get in the way of your education. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:25 | |
Before, I was with the person I am with now, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
I was seeing somebody else. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
Does that shock you that you didn't know about it? | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
Yeah. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:35 | |
Yeah, I guess it was. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
OK. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:40 | |
Erm, I don't know how to say this to you but, OK... | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
The person I was with, before my girlfriend, was a guy. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
Does that shock you? | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
-No. -No? -No. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
Because I'm into guys and girls. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
-OK. -I'm into both. -All right. -Does that make sense? | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
-Is that OK with you? -That's fine. I'm... -How do you feel about that? | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
Fine. Erm... | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
Well, you hit me with a right punch, but... | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
Sorry to shock you like that. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
..but can I just say, I'm really... I've travelled the world. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
I'm very, very open-minded. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
-You've got to be happy in who you are. -Mm-hm. -No-one else. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
You've got to be happy in who you are. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
So, as long as... | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
If it makes you happy, it makes you happy. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
Fine. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:27 | |
It don't matter to me one bit. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
-Cool. -Not one bit. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
In fact, I am as cool as a cucumber. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
Fair enough. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:35 | |
I'm just going to end it there. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
Yeah, cool. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
So, I've just come out to my dad, | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
and it went really, really well. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
Like, leading up to it, erm, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
I was so close to, like, not even doing it. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
I didn't really want to. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
All through the car journey back, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
I was quite nervous and I was just thinking, "I'm not going to do it. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
"I'm not going to do it. Today's not the day." | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
But then I had the camera with me in my room and I thought, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:09 | |
"Just do it, just do it." | 0:20:09 | 0:20:10 | |
And I did and it was all fine. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
Absolutely fine. He took it really well. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
I don't know what I was so worried about. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
So, yeah, I feel really happy about it now | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
and I'm officially an out bisexual man to both my mum and my dad, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:24 | |
and my friends all know now. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
My uni friends know, erm, so, yeah, someone get me a T-shirt. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
Out and proud and all that rubbish. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
Total renovation. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:51 | |
Really, everything. The ceiling came down two weeks ago. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
Replastered the whole walls. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
Rendered it. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:58 | |
It's good. It's good. | 0:20:58 | 0:20:59 | |
You said you can't notice any changes in three weeks, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:04 | |
but you can't have looked hard enough, because look at that. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
Oh, it's only because I hadn't really been in here last time. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
Now, that bit's all different. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:13 | |
Well, that stonework was only done last week. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
To say I haven't thought about it is an understatement, because I really, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
really have. Is it anything I've done to make him that way? | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
No. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:32 | |
He is who he is. That's fine. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
How would other people react to me? | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
Then, I thought, "Hang on, he's happy. What's it to do with them?" | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
You know? Fine. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
If I ever have a negative thought, | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
as long as you're happy, that cancels out everything else. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:48 | |
When you build something up for a long time in your head, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
you can get a bit anxious and worried about it, but, you know, | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
it was all fine. And afterwards, you acted like so cool about it, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
so I was just really happy and glad that I'd finally done it. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
-A weight off your mind. -Yeah. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
-Is it? -Yeah. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:07 | |
Is there people who don't understand, do you think? | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
Because I'm bisexual and I like men and women, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
there's this idea that we're very promiscuous, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
or that we're just, like, secretly gay or something. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
I don't... I do not understand that. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
I was worried about your loneliness. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
How long you'd bottled it up. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
That was a big worry. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:28 | |
My current wife, she is my rock. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
It don't matter to me if it's a bloke or a woman who's going to | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
one day be your rock. You'll know it when it is. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
-Are you proud of him? -Definitely. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
Without a doubt. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:43 | |
To be this open and honest as well? | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
Very proud. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:47 | |
One of the things I'm proud of in my life is coming out to my parents, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
and coming out to everyone, like, my friends and everything, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:17 | |
and just being this more confident person recently, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
and I'm really proud that I can say that I'm proud that I've done that. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:28 | |
I think why I was so happy that I'd done it is because I'd been | 0:23:28 | 0:23:33 | |
so nervous and so worried about it for so long. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
I'd been so insecure and I'd carried around all these negative feelings | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
and emotions, and I'd finally overcome them and finally dealt | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
with them and finally done this thing | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
that I'd wanted to do for so long, | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
and just be who I really am. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
You know, that old cliche and I just... | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
I was - and I am - really happy now that I've done it. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 |