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The romantic idea of a happy marriage that would last a lifetime | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
has never been more tested than in the 20th century. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
This three-part series celebrates the enduring power | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
of an age-old institution that has survived into the modern age | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
of individual freedom and affluence. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
We begin by taking a new look at marriage during the first half | 0:00:21 | 0:00:25 | |
of the century, when the wedding day was often the culmination | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
of a long courtship and, finally, a proposal. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
I arranged to meet her, sat down on the bench | 0:00:34 | 0:00:39 | |
and said, "Darling, I've got 25 quid, will you marry me?" | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
And so she became my fiancee. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
# Life is wonderful when you love... # | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
This was an era when the ideal of romantic love in marriage | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
had to withstand the harsh realities of a world very different to today. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
Yet many marriages were defined by friendship | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
rather than conflict and strife. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
Above all else, couples wanted to provide a stable and loving home | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
for their children. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:22 | |
This was even true of those who struggled to bring up large families | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
on the breadline. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
I did not want a great large family. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
It was a case of, what God sends you you've got to put up with. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
And God sent me all these kids and I've got to put up with them | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
and I brought them up. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
And I didn't ask God, man or the devil for help to bring them up. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
I brought them up myself, my husband and I. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
He worked for them and I looked after them. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
So what more could we want? | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
Despite the separation and tragedy of two world wars, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
most marriages not only survived, | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
some became even stronger. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
A commitment to see things through, whatever challenges lay ahead, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
bonded couples together for life in the most powerful way. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:10 | |
How does one describe | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
the feeling that you have of being complete | 0:02:14 | 0:02:19 | |
when the other person is with you? | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
Then you feel whole. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
I'm very, very glad I loved my husband. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
And I was lucky in getting Reg and a man like Reg. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
At the beginning of the 20th century, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
most girls grew up believing it was their destiny | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
to one day fall in love, get married and have children. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
Victorian attitudes to innocence and sexual purity | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
ensured that many girls and boys would remain ignorant | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
of the basic facts of life, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
as ideals of ladylike and gentlemanly behaviour | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
were passed down through the generations. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
This is the Norfolk country estate | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
where writer Diana Athill spent much of her childhood | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
dreaming of one day meeting her own Prince Charming. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
My granny had very firm ideas. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:34 | |
I don't know whether she told me or whether my mother told me, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
but granny believed that no lady could possibly | 0:03:39 | 0:03:45 | |
let a man kiss her | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
unless they were going to get married. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
Unless she was in love with him. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
She wouldn't like it unless she was in love with him. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
And no gentleman would dream of kissing a girl | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
unless he was going to marry her because he was in love. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
This was what her daughters were brought up believing | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
and I think my mother was. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:05 | |
This ideal of romantic love had long been the stuff of popular fiction. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
Many couples expected to fall in love at first sight, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
like Diana's mother and father. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
He fell in love with her on sight... | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
..and I think it was in the conservatory, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
half way through the dance, he kissed her, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
where upon, of course, my mother, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
who enjoyed it immensely - | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
she'd never been kissed by anybody, it was terribly exciting, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
she thought, she was so excited and delighted | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
she had been kissed by this extremely nice young man, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
she thought she was in love with him. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
She had let him kiss her | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
and, according to my grandmother, that meant she was in love. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
Convinced that they were in love with each other, Diana's parents | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
were married in 1916, totally unprepared for what was to follow. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:01 | |
She hadn't a clue of what sex was going to be like. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
And, I must say, I think it's quite possible my father hadn't either. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
His colonel wrote a letter | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
to all the young officers who joined the regiment | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
and one of the things he said was that there would always be | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
plenty of sport of every kind | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
that he encourages his officers to indulge in - | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
football, tennis, cricket, hunting, of course, and riding. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
But he did not like young men who spent a lot of time | 0:05:28 | 0:05:33 | |
messing about in London. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
That meant women. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
And so I'm quite certain my father hadn't spent a lot of time | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
messing about in London. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
It's quite likely that he was as virginal as my mother was. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
It's likely too that many of the young, single men who volunteered | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
to serve in the First World War were also virgin soldiers. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
They'd been brought up to believe that a man had to be patriotic | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
and protective towards women and children if he wanted a wife. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
This ideal of manliness saw war as a great adventure | 0:06:06 | 0:06:11 | |
and an opportunity to prove courage and valour, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
encouraging some boys to lie about their age on joining up, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
like 17-year-old George Louth. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
My captain said to the sergeant next to me, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
he said, "Louth, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
"we're going to France..." he said, | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
"..and we don't want you crying when we get over there, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:36 | |
"saying you're not old enough...", he said, "..because it wont happen. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
"You won't come back. So say it now." | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
I said, "I'm going with the lads." | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
Totally unprepared for what was to come, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
the horror of trench warfare shattered the innocence | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
of a generation of young men. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
George narrowly survived the slaughter | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
of the Battle of the Somme. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
Suffering from shell shock, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:06 | |
he was discharged and sent to work on the land in Dorset. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
But then life completely changed for George. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
At the age of 20, he fell in love for the first time, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
with the daughter of his landlady. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
Her name was Ellen | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
and we courted for eight months. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
And, erm... | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
we came out the backdoor together | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
and I said, "Will you marry me?" | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
She was shook. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
So, then we decided, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
when we went indoors and we gave the news to the mother-in-law, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
and she clapped. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
She clapped. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
The lasting memory of the war for George Louth | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
was not valour or glory, | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
but the true love which he had found with his sweetheart Ellen. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
Their wedding day was on November 11th 1918 | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
which, unbeknown to them, turned out to be Armistice Day. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
Got married and, as we came out, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
we see all the flags flying. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
We thought it was for us and it wasn't. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
It was Armistice Day, eleven o'clock... | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
when we got married. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
Yeah, she was my first and only. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:34 | |
Never strayed from when we met, right to this. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
Some men did stray, however, and official information films | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
were quick to point out the dangers posed by loose liaisons. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
Staying true to a fiancee or wife, these films warned, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
was the key to avoiding sexually transmitted disease like VD | 0:08:50 | 0:08:56 | |
for which there was no cure at the time. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
"Emotional Control" was the only option for those | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
like Diana Athill's parents | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
who were stuck in a sexually incompatible marriage. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
She never did actually find him physically attractive. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:16 | |
And this was the secret of how... | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
You made the best of it in those days if this happened. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
But this was the reason why their marriage, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
although she always knew he was a very nice man, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
but she did not like sex with him, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
which was an underlying tension in their marriage from then on, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:40 | |
which we as children, of course we didn't know what it was, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
but we sensed always that there was this something wrong between them. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
It was only much later that Diana discovered what had happened | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
between her mother and father. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
One of his fellow officers and my mother began an affair. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:03 | |
And she discovered during this what sex was really like | 0:10:05 | 0:10:10 | |
and that she loved it - it was all right, you know. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
But this affair came to light. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:19 | |
It was a frightful time. It must have been ghastly. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
She had become pregnant. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
And my father, being an extremely honourable and kind and good man, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:36 | |
did accept it | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
and my sister Patience was born. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
And...one of the reasons why... | 0:10:41 | 0:10:46 | |
By the time I was 18, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
I guessed that my sister was not my father's daughter. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:54 | |
One of the reasons was, he was always so much nicer to her, | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
and he was nice to all of us, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
but he was especially, especially nice to her. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
And that was how I figured, you know, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
he would have done that because he wasn't going to blame the child. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
Diana's parents stayed together for life | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
in an era when divorce was very difficult and dishonourable. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
Since before the First World War, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
the Suffragette movement had been demanding rights for women | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
as a way to create more equal marriages | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
and a more equal and better world. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
And although most women over 30 would gain the vote in 1918, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
social changes were slow in coming. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
Many accepted their parents would help them choose their husband, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
like Hetty Bower, who grew up in an Orthodox Jewish family. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
I just took it for granted that one day it would happen. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
I didn't spend time dwelling on it. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
I was a very practical... Hockey was my great joy | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
and I was hockey captain of the school | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
and that occupied me. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
My parents would probably find me a suitable young man. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:19 | |
I would look at his photograph and decide, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
or several photographs and pick which one. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
But Hetty's views on life and love were about to change, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
inspired by the rise of a new political force in British life, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:37 | |
the labour and trade union movement. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
The First World War had not brought an end to poverty, unemployment | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
and appalling housing conditions, as many politicians had promised, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:49 | |
so an impassioned young Hetty | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
joined the ranks of the Labour Party in London's East End | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
as a volunteer, collecting subscriptions door to door. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
I went to number 60 Montague Road | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
and a little woman with bright blue eyes said, "Mr N Bower? | 0:13:03 | 0:13:10 | |
"Nobody called N Bower. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
"What's it about?" | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
And I said, "Well, I'm from the Labour Party." | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
"Oh!", she said, "That's our Reg." | 0:13:18 | 0:13:23 | |
She called up the passage, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
"Reg! Reg! There's somebody here from the Labour...", | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
and left me and this young... very good-looking young man | 0:13:30 | 0:13:35 | |
with the most charming smile, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
and my first reaction immediately was, what a pity he's not Jewish! | 0:13:39 | 0:13:45 | |
Hetty soon discovered that Reg not only shared her politics, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
he also shared her passion for the countryside and music. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
Their love gave Hetty the strength to resist | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
her parent's initial disapproval of her non-Jewish boyfriend. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:04 | |
His kindness, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
his courtesy... | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
..his warmth for humanity. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:16 | |
You felt you couldn't help but feel it. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
In the 1920s, those who lived and worked in the countryside | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
had fewer choices of partner than in the cities. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
A sweetheart was often met at the local school | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
or at work on a local farm. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
This was how Marian Atkinson came to fall in love in the remote | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
Rosthwaite Valley in the Lake District, where she'd grown up. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
In 1922, she was working as a farm servant | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
when she met her first love. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
We knew one another when we were 12 and went to the same school. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
And when I was 17, I went to this place | 0:14:56 | 0:15:01 | |
and, low and behold, my husband was the horseman there. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
I always liked him. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
He was a big, tall, good-looking bloke. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
I used to go into my own bedroom at night, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
I used to think, I wonder if he'll ask me out. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
I was allowed out on Sunday afternoon | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
and I could go to church if I wanted to. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
It took, oh, five or six months before it got to the stage of saying, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:37 | |
"Don't go to church. When I've had my tea, | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
"I'll come down and we'll have a walk across the fields." | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
After we'd been walking for a while and we'd admired the flowers | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
and the trees and that, he got a bit closer and put his arm around me | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
and we walked and I put my arm around the back of him | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
and we walked quite close together. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
As we were striding across the field, I slipped, | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
and he grabbed me in both hands and he kissed me on that bank. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:06 | |
And that was the first time I can remember he ever kissed me. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
After a two-year courtship, Marian and Bill married in 1924 | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
and their first baby arrived a year later. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
But this was no romantic rural paradise. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
Life was hard, and dominated by work and constant childbearing. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
In remote areas, there was little knowledge | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
of contraception and pregnancy | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
and childbirth was accepted fatalistically. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
Marian had six children in quick succession | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
yet she still managed to create a stable family life, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
working almost every day with her husband on the farm. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
When I found out I was pregnant again, I used to say to my husband, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
"Oh, God, not again! How are we going to manage?" | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
But we did manage. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:56 | |
It was just blooming hard work and that was the end of it. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
Sometimes you think, what the devil am I doing this for? | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
I'm getting nothing out of it. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
But we were getting something out of it. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
And when you're married to a man and been married to him for years, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
you've got to pull with him. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
Could you have stood by and seen your husband | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
work his fingers to the bone without helping? No. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
I had to muck in and do men's work. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
It was hard work, blooming hard work, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
and I couldn't...I didn't agree with all of it, but I did it. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
Love on the dole was even harder to sustain. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
In the 1920s and '30s, Britain suffered mass unemployment | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
as traditional industries like textiles, shipbuilding | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
and coal mining declined. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
With unemployment reaching three million, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
the self esteem of a generation of young men | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
who believed it was their duty to be a breadwinner took a serious blow. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:54 | |
Most jobs on offer were short term and unskilled | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
as Yorkshireman Robert Williamson discovered. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
They were all casual jobs which you got. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
Eight weeks. You'd get eight weeks with your local council. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:09 | |
We used to call it eight weeks' desk work. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
You know, you'd be navvying. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:13 | |
Laying cables, you know, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
everybody were going on to electricity in them days | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
and there was always jobs going | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
digging the pavement up and laying high-tension cables. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
Skilled men were doing the digging and filling in. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
You felt embittered | 0:18:32 | 0:18:33 | |
but, you see, it was commonplace. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
When I got married, I didn't have a job. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
19th December, 1931. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:48 | |
Poverty surveys into working-class life in the 1930s | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
revealed one key factor in family survival through hard times - | 0:18:55 | 0:19:00 | |
the love and labour of the wife and mother. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
Her skills in cooking, cleaning, washing and housekeeping | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
were respected in the control she was often given | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
over the family finances. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
John Salinas grew up in Liverpool. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
I always thought of poverty as my mother's purse, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:21 | |
which contained the wealth of the family. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
Imagine the wealth of the family was in that purse. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
It was put in on payday | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
and it had to last to the next payday. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
And very, very often it didn't. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
And when the last penny was gone from the purse, that was it. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
No money meant the rent collector couldn't be paid | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
on his weekly visit. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
But every mother knew the best, time-honoured way to avoid him. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
We would hear him approach from afar. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
And the doors would go, dud, dud, dud, dud. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
And then the next door would go, dud, dud, dud, dud. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
And then everything must be silent | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
and he would appear at your door in the shape of the shadow | 0:20:07 | 0:20:12 | |
of the two legs between the bottom of the door and the lobby. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
And then that clap would come on your door. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
And all was silent, silent, silent. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
And after a while it would go again. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
Twice. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:30 | |
And then you would hear it go further down the street | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
and we all breathed again then. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
It was a lovely day when you could pay the rent. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
Oh, door was open, everybody happy in the house. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:46 | |
Even well-to-do families | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
who enjoyed what seemed to be an idyllic life in the countryside | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
could not escape the economic turmoil of the 1930s. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:58 | |
Diana Athill's family inheritance, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
handed down from one generation to the next, was dwindling fast. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:05 | |
Her parents found it difficult to come to terms | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
with their reduced circumstances, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
but Diana believed that marriage would save her | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
from having to work for a living. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
We ourselves, in my family, were always a bit short of money. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:20 | |
And there was a terrible time when the bank said... | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
My mother was extravagant, my father was very careful. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
The bank told them they mustn't cash another cheque at one point. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
Panic stations all round because we didn't have much money. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:36 | |
We felt, I was being told from when I was a child, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
"When you grow up you have to earn your own living", | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
which used to frighten me as being rather shocking, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
considering what I was surrounded by at that time. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
But I thought, I suppose that will be so, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
except I will be married by then so my husband will keep me. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
Young ladies like Diana usually found prospective marriage partners | 0:21:57 | 0:22:02 | |
from a closed circle of eligible young men | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
they met at balls, dances and dinners. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
When she was 17, Diana went to a dance with Tony, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
a student at Oxford University | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
with whom she'd secretly fallen in love. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
Driving home after the dance, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
Diana wondered if he felt the same way about her. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
There was a level crossing and the train was coming | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
so we stopped at the level crossing | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
and at the level crossing, Tony didn't just put his arm around me, | 0:22:34 | 0:22:39 | |
but he kissed me. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
And to this day I can remember it was rather a disappointing kiss | 0:22:42 | 0:22:48 | |
because I had expected my first kiss would be a sort of rapture. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
But he had been sitting with the cold air blowing in on his face | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
and his lips were cold and rather sort of sticky. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
I thought, that's not much fun, and I remembered reading somewhere, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
I think it was in one of Thomas Hardy's books, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
first kisses are usually disappointing. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
Thomas Hardy said first kisses are disappointing, so that's all right. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
REPORTER: Before May is upon us, let's take a look at wedding styles. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
In a time of economic uncertainty, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
the allure of true love and the glamorous white wedding | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
became even more captivating. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
But influenced by the new ideals of feminism and socialism, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
a growing number of modern women like Hetty Bower | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
wanted something much more simple and unconventional, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
so Hetty got married in her local registry office. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
Wednesday was the early closing day for that area of Clapham | 0:23:50 | 0:23:58 | |
and so we arranged to get married on Wednesday afternoon. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:04 | |
My sister Anita was, er... | 0:24:04 | 0:24:09 | |
..disapproved of a modern woman marrying. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:15 | |
She, you know, thought marriage was totally unnecessary. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:20 | |
One campaign which helped define the modern woman's attitude to marriage | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
was the Family Planning movement inspired by Marie Stopes. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
She emphasised the importance of contraception | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
in preventing unplanned large families | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
and established the first birth control clinic in London in 1921. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:41 | |
Coming from a family of ten, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
Hetty was determined not to fall into the same trap as her mother. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
I knew I was never, never going to go in for a family that size | 0:24:52 | 0:24:59 | |
so I had to take precautions about becoming pregnant. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:05 | |
I didn't want to have a baby | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
before I had saved quite an amount of money | 0:25:09 | 0:25:15 | |
so that I could be at home with the baby for at least two years | 0:25:15 | 0:25:22 | |
after birth. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:23 | |
It was in the countryside that large families remained more commonplace. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:30 | |
Here, the benefits of modern family planning | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
took effect much more slowly. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
But few families grew as large as that of Marian Atkinson | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
in the Lake District. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
She and her husband Bill raised 15 children. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
Children, when they came as quick as the came to me, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
got a burden at times. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
And you used to feel you can't put up with any more of it. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
"I've had enough. I'm going to run away." | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
I said many a time in my married life I'm going to run away. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
And I'd walk out of the back door and I'd look at the door and I'd think, | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
I've no money and nowhere to go so I'd better go back in. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
So what could you do? | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
I mean, don't get me wrong, life wasn't all roses, because it wasn't. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:16 | |
We had our ups and downs and our fall-outs, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
many a time over the children. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
Despite the isolation and the unrelenting nature of farm work, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
surprisingly, the shared hardship between husband and wife | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
often created a strong sense of solidarity. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
In these unremittingly tough times, marriages had to be equally robust. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:39 | |
They were all in bed by 8:30pm | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
while my husband and I used to go to bed at 9pm to 9:30pm. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
So we had an hour and we used to sit each side of the fireplace | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
and discuss things you can't discuss in front of children | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
or talk about how we were managing or what we would like to do. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:57 | |
or where we were going next or... just things between me and him, | 0:26:57 | 0:27:04 | |
or what we would have liked to have done | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
or where we would have liked to have been. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
We did discuss all these things but we never let the children know. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
We never let them think we were discontent. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
We used to like to make them feel they were a contented family. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:20 | |
A happy contented family. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
This was the '30s image of the ideal family. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
Suburban, middle class and built on the solid foundation | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
of a father at work, a full time mother and two children. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:37 | |
But during the economic depression, the love and commitment | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
of comfortable middle class couples would also be tested to the limit. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
When Denise Robertson's family were plunged into poverty | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
after her father's company went bankrupt, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
her mother was determined to put a brave face on it. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
When things got really bad she would sit down and play the piano. | 0:27:55 | 0:28:00 | |
The song she used to play was Spread a Little Happiness. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
# Even though the darkest clouds are in the sky | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
# You mustn't sigh and you mustn't cry | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
# Spread a little happiness Till clouds roll by. # | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
# Life is wonderful when you love... # | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
Denise and her sister came to believe that as in the movies, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
true love was the key to the happiness of her mother and father. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
He used to come home for lunch | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
and when it was time for him to go back, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
they would go into the hall and my sister and I, | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
we would run up the stairs and look through the bars | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
and scream "Hollywood, Hollywood!", | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
because they were locked in one another's arms, kissing, | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
and they couldn't bear to part for him to go back after lunch. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
I think there was a fair degree of passion in that relationship. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:56 | |
Come along now, into bed. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
Got a good night kiss for Daddy? Night-night. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
It made me realise that a good marriage could withstand | 0:29:03 | 0:29:09 | |
whatever came against it from outside | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
because we were being battered from outside by all kinds of things. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:19 | |
The lack of money, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
the fact that they had come down in the world, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
which I think had a profound effect on them. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
I don't think my father ever really recovered from it. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
In 1936, Diana Athill went up to Oxford University | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
and soon immersed herself | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
in the privileges and pleasures of university life. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
As an 18-year-old woman, Diana had lost | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
none of her enduring seriousness about marrying the right man. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
Her relationship with Tony had developed slowly and steadily. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
He was the man she loved. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
Tony had by now joined the RAF | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
but, although he was stationed in Lincolnshire, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
this didn't prevent him from coming to Oxford on regular visits. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
He used to fly down from Grantham, where he was stationed, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:14 | |
which was terribly dashing compared to everybody else. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
My young man would fly down and would come and take me out. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
And we used to have lovely times. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
For Diana, her relationship with Tony had reached a turning point. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:30 | |
Things warmed up gently | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
to the point where, at the end of one term, | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
we spent our first night in bed together. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
As a matter of course, really. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
There was no question of telling anybody | 0:30:44 | 0:30:49 | |
and very soon afterwards we got engaged. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
The taboo about sex before marriage remained as strong as ever | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
and early sex education films were warning young women... | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
I believe you're only amusing yourself. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
..men were only after one thing... | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
All this is a game to you. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
..and it was the girl who said no that got her man. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
-I love you. -How many girls have you said that to? -No, Betty, I mean it. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
For a new generation of young women like Diana Athill, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
this prudery seemed old fashioned, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
but the serious business of marriage was unquestioned. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
I was a virgin | 0:31:26 | 0:31:27 | |
and I didn't actually particularly enjoy the first time because of that, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:32 | |
excepting for the wonderful fact that this was happening, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:37 | |
because, you know, I was very much in love with him by then | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
and so it could only be a good thing. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
Couples dreaming of marriage were beckoned by a brave new world | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
of suburban semi-detached and detached homes. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
Between the wars there was a boom in home ownership | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
amongst the middle classes | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
and local councils built a million homes for rent on cottage estates. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
In 1938, Robert Williamson and his family | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
moved into their brand-new council house in Leeds. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
And when we moved into this council house, 61 Howlett Road, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
it was like going into heaven. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
It was a block of four and we were on the end, | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
which meant ours was semi-detached. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
It was easier being at home then | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
because you had something to do worthwhile. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
Get your garden right. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
There were many undreamt-of luxuries that came with his new council house | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
and to Robert it seemed that life could only get better | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
for him and his family. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
Every night, my wife would run the bath. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
When it was ready, she'd call down, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
"Come up, Daddy! The bath's ready. Norma's waiting." | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
So I'd go up, splash a time or two, then I'd croon her a tune. | 0:32:56 | 0:33:02 | |
# Swing me in the moonlight | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
# In the moonlight tonight. # | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
But Robert's dream of domestic bliss was cut short when war with Germany | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
was declared in September 1939 and conscription was introduced. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:20 | |
Britain's young husbands, fathers and fiances | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
marched off to a war from which they might never return. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
For some, the last goodbye was unbearable. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
Me and my wife, we couldn't talk about this separation | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
because it was too painful. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
There was always that knowledge | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
that we may never see each other again. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
I never thought I'd come back. Never thought I'd come back. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
And I think that the people who saw you off didn't think... | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
Well, they didn't come to see you off because it was too harrowing. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
The only person that was there to see me off was my dad | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
because he'd gone through the same situation, hadn't he? | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
But he'd come back alive. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
For John Salinas, who had joined the Merchant Navy in 1935, | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
shore leave during the war took on an entirely new meaning. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:20 | |
It gave John the opportunity to continue his courtship | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
with his new girlfriend Dorothy. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
They had met and fallen in love just weeks before the war started. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
I remember coming home up from London to Lime Street. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:35 | |
Dorothy was meeting me on the station | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
and as I walked down the platform, I passed a very pretty girl | 0:34:39 | 0:34:44 | |
and she had a picture hat tilted on one side | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
and a beautiful suit and I felt a little bit guilty. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:53 | |
Anyway, I couldn't find Dorothy, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
and I went back and it was this lovely girl. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
It was she. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
Whenever I was on leave, we used to go to the cinema. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
We spent our courting days in the cinema, sitting by one another, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
holding hands, and it was, I can't... It was heaven. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:21 | |
And, of course, there was always the smell of her. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:26 | |
The smell of her clothes | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
and the smell of her self that was special. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
We had a marvellous time when I was on leave and so it went on. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
Voyage, leave, fun, voyage. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:44 | |
# Sweets to my sweet | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
# Let them entreat you to forgive me, darling... # | 0:35:48 | 0:35:53 | |
And then, one day, my sister Lil said to me, | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
"Do you intend marrying Dorothy?" I said, "Of course I do." | 0:35:57 | 0:36:02 | |
And she said, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:03 | |
"You'd better get on with it or you're going to lose her." | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
# Now, once upon a time we'd bill and we'd coo | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
# We promised that we'd both be true... # | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
I immediately took Dorothy to Sefton Park, | 0:36:14 | 0:36:19 | |
sat down on a bench | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
and said, "Darling, I've got 25 quid, will you marry me?" | 0:36:21 | 0:36:26 | |
And so she became my fiancee... | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
and we were betrothed. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
For Diana Athill, the outbreak of war meant an inevitable delay | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
in her plans to marry her RAF fiance Tony | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
to whom she had been engaged since 1938. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
Tony was stationed in the Far East with an RAF bomber squadron. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
Diana knew he was in considerable danger | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
and was determined to keep in touch. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
Letters flew back and forth between us. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
And I loved writing. I was a very good letter writer. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
And I remember him, in one of his letters, he said, | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
"Look, I'm not nearly such a good letter writer as you are. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
"It's much harder for me to write letters | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
"so I won't be writing quite as many letters as I ought to. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
"Don't let that stop you writing | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
"because I'd die if you stopped writing to me." | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
So when his letters started falling off, I went on writing. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:42 | |
After that I had two letters from him. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
Just as good as they used to be... | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
..and then silence. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
Absolute silence. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
I thought, he told me not to stop writing, so I didn't stop writing. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:03 | |
I don't know how long I went on writing into this silence | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
but it was quite a long time. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
I didn't know what had happened. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
And it was not knowing that was so terribly painful. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:20 | |
Living in wartime London, Diana was well aware of a new spirit | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
of living for the moment in the face of an ever-present threat of death. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:30 | |
This often led to the casting aside of convention | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
and the breaking of solemn promises. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
But after not hearing from her fiance Tony for more than a year, | 0:38:35 | 0:38:40 | |
Diana still had no idea what his silence meant. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
I got from him at that stage a little formal letter saying, | 0:38:45 | 0:38:50 | |
would I kindly consider our engagement over | 0:38:50 | 0:38:55 | |
because he was marrying somebody else. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
And it was a terrible... | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
..awful shock, really, | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
because I thought to myself, I had this image in my head, | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
I was lying in bed and my mother brought that letter up | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
and silently handed it to me. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
I read it and I thought, | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
well, anyhow, I suppose it means that it's over. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
And I realise that it wasn't over for me. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
And I had a, sort of, picture in my mind... | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
..of a long bridge between two supports | 0:39:30 | 0:39:35 | |
and one of the supports had been knocked away. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
And the bridge was still sticking out there. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
And it was bad. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
I was going to be a wife. Presumably I was going to be a mother. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
I had no idea of anything else that I wanted to be. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:01 | |
That's what I had been planning to be. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
That was what I was certain I was going to be. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
But now I wasn't going to be. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
And I wasn't loved any more. That was very, very bleak. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:14 | |
Love was under threat on all fronts, and nowhere more than at sea. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:20 | |
The deadly menace of German U-boats | 0:40:24 | 0:40:25 | |
meant one in four British merchant seamen | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
never made it home. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
John Salinas was one of the lucky ones. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
But he almost took one risk too many in the name of love | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
the day his ship went down. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
I struggled off the bunk and I can't find the bloody door. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:43 | |
I just cannot find the door. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
Eventually did, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
went up onto the boat deck. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
When I got up onto the boat deck, I realised I had left | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
Dorothy's picture in the cabin, and so I decided to go down and get it. | 0:40:55 | 0:41:01 | |
Got it off the desk. And the ship started to list. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:06 | |
Got back up on the deck. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
And as I emerge into the daylight, I think, "I've won. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
"I've got it." | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
Stupid, but I'd do it again. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
John and Dorothy were married in 1943 | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
and still remain devoted to each other almost 70 years later. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:28 | |
When the war ended in 1945, it often meant a difficult homecoming | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
for partners who had to readjust | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
and pick up relationships again after years of separation. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
For some, there was heartbreak. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
Diana Athill had to come to terms with the loss of her fiance Tony | 0:41:48 | 0:41:53 | |
to another woman. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
After the war she discovered he had died in a bombing raid, | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
leaving behind his wife, who was expecting their first child. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
You can hardly really blame him. He was flying bombers. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
He must have known perfectly well that his chances were very low | 0:42:08 | 0:42:12 | |
and he could be killed any minute. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
And there was this... | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
I know now, from having met her son, that she was very charming, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:22 | |
pretty, young, innocent, delightful girl. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
Loyal and kind and brave and all the good qualities. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
And it would be a waste not to marry her, really. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
Husbands and fathers came home to a country devastated by war. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:40 | |
Yet despite this, for the vast majority of married couples | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
the long wait to meet again would end in a happy reunion | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
with their family. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
Most, for better or for worse, would stay together for life, | 0:42:50 | 0:42:55 | |
creating stable homes for their children. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
The flags were out. Everything were trimmed up. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
Big cake, you know. Welcome home. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 | |
Well, it was very emotive. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
I'm afraid I cried, you know. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
I can't remember crying before. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
Only when I got spanked on my bottom when I was about a few months old. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:19 | |
I can't remember crying. Only on that occasion. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:23 | |
With joy, you know. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
But this wasn't the brave new world families had fought for. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:35 | |
Bombing raids had destroyed many homes, | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
which put further pressure on relationships. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:41 | |
There was a shortfall of four million homes | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 | |
and many young couples were forced to live with parents | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
and relatives in cramped conditions. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
Nevertheless, most were so pleased to be home, | 0:43:51 | 0:43:54 | |
the simple joys of marriage and family life tasted all the sweeter. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
Even in poor working-class areas, there was a determination | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
to make the best of it, a spirit captured by returning soldier | 0:44:04 | 0:44:08 | |
Ed Mitchell, a husband utterly devoted to his wife and children. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:12 | |
I said to Peg during the war, "Whatever happens, Peg, darling, | 0:44:14 | 0:44:18 | |
"we're going to be happy. Whether we've got any money | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
"or anything, we'll be happy." | 0:44:21 | 0:44:22 | |
In the early '50s, we were living in a little tiny terraced house. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:28 | |
95 New Market Street in Norwich. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:30 | |
Of course, there was no bathroom. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:34 | |
And no hot water. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
Nothing like that, and coal fires, you see. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
And it was ten shillings a week. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:40 | |
It had an outside toilet. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:43 | |
And the coalhouse was outside as well. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:46 | |
The highlight of the week was bath night, | 0:44:48 | 0:44:51 | |
a time when Ed's can-do spirit was pushed to the limit. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:54 | |
Bath night was always Friday night, | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
and that was a panic, that was, because we had a bath | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
which was called a "bungalow bath" | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
and they were long tin baths. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
I could just about sit in it with my knees out straight. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
And to heat the water up for that, | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
we used to put the bath on the gas fire | 0:45:11 | 0:45:13 | |
and light two burners underneath it and heat the water up. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:17 | |
Shirley used to be bathed first, who was then a little baby. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
Then Gran was bathed in the same water. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
Then we put a couple of saucepans full of boiling water in the water | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
and it was getting a bit of scum on top by then, and Gran was bathed. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:32 | |
Peg would wipe them down and get them into bed. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
Then Peg would get in, have her bath, | 0:45:35 | 0:45:37 | |
put another couple of saucepans of water in it. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
By the time I got in the bath, there was about an inch of scum on there. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:43 | |
And the bloody water was lukewarm. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:44 | |
And then to get it out of the kitchen, | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
which was only about eight foot by four foot wide, | 0:45:47 | 0:45:49 | |
to get it out of the kitchen door and tip it in the drain in the yard | 0:45:49 | 0:45:53 | |
was a bit of a job, cos it had slopped about all over the floor and it was a panic. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:56 | |
And I used to hang that up in the shed, which was an Anderson shelter. | 0:45:56 | 0:46:00 | |
Despite a brief upsurge in divorces immediately after the war, | 0:46:03 | 0:46:07 | |
marriage soon became more popular than ever before. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
In the late 1940s and '50s, | 0:46:12 | 0:46:14 | |
there was a boom in the numbers getting married, | 0:46:14 | 0:46:17 | |
with around half a million couples tying the knot each year. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
So you're going to get married, are you? | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
Most couples married in their early- to mid-20s. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:30 | |
Women who left it much later, | 0:46:30 | 0:46:31 | |
or who appeared to have too many boyfriends, | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
were viewed with suspicion. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:36 | |
However, marrying the right man was a big decision | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
and having seen the passionate and enduring love enjoyed by her parents, | 0:46:39 | 0:46:43 | |
Denise Robertson wasn't going to settle for anything less. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:48 | |
I had quite a lot of boyfriends when I was a girl. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:52 | |
And my mother, who believed that if you weren't married at 21... | 0:46:52 | 0:46:55 | |
My sister had been married at 20, | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
you know, I got into my early 20s | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
and I was showing no sign of settling down | 0:47:01 | 0:47:03 | |
and my mother became very agitated. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
And I remember she had a saying - "Too may rings around Rosie, | 0:47:05 | 0:47:09 | |
"Rosie gets no ring at all." | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
And I don't know what I was holding out for, | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
but I had... You know, I wanted what they had had. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:20 | |
I wanted to be stirred. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:23 | |
The dream of domestic bliss and a comfortable married life | 0:47:25 | 0:47:29 | |
in the affluent suburbs was never stronger than in the post-war years. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:34 | |
One contemporary survey showed that 71% of British wives were "very happy" | 0:47:34 | 0:47:40 | |
and only 4% were "unhappy". | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
A steadfast husband, the protector and provider, | 0:47:43 | 0:47:47 | |
was part of this vision, as was his dutiful wife at home. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:51 | |
But for some women, this was not all they wanted. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:55 | |
There was this place called Cleedon, | 0:47:57 | 0:47:59 | |
which was where all the posh houses were. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
All my friends simply wanted to be married to someone | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
who could take them to Cleedon. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:07 | |
And I didn't know what I wanted, but I knew Cleedon wasn't it. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:11 | |
I wanted to be loved and protected. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:15 | |
I thought that's what you have a husband for. He shelters you. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:21 | |
There was a new respectability, | 0:48:27 | 0:48:29 | |
as strict rules about courtship were re-established. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
Early sex surveys of the late 1940s and early '50s | 0:48:33 | 0:48:37 | |
revealed the enduring power of sexual taboos, | 0:48:37 | 0:48:41 | |
which restrained many couples from having sex before marriage. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:45 | |
And even on holiday, couples were policed by their parents, | 0:48:45 | 0:48:49 | |
as Eileen Cook and her fiance Arthur would discover | 0:48:49 | 0:48:53 | |
when they went away together. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:55 | |
We were going to Blackpool. And we'd been courting over two years | 0:48:56 | 0:49:00 | |
and could we go to Blackpool for four days? | 0:49:00 | 0:49:03 | |
"Yes." | 0:49:03 | 0:49:05 | |
So in those days you had to write and get a letter, | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
so I wrote and asked for two single rooms | 0:49:07 | 0:49:09 | |
and she wrote back, did the landlady. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:11 | |
My mother read the letter. "That's OK." | 0:49:11 | 0:49:13 | |
So off we went on the Saturday, to this boarding house. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:18 | |
Sunday morning, my mother and dad landed. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
They'd come on a coach trip. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
Came to the hotel, and obviously we'd gone out for the day | 0:49:23 | 0:49:27 | |
and could they have their tea with us? | 0:49:27 | 0:49:30 | |
"Yes." And could I go to Eileen's room to get washed? | 0:49:30 | 0:49:35 | |
That was to check that I was in the single room | 0:49:35 | 0:49:38 | |
and Arthur's room was upstairs. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:41 | |
The deep sexual longings of many couples | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
would only finally be expressed on their honeymoon. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:51 | |
When Eileen Cook got married in 1950, | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
she and Arthur went back to Blackpool. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:57 | |
This was the moment they'd been waiting for. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
But Eileen was apprehensive about what to expect on her wedding night. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:05 | |
It's a bit intimidating, like, | 0:50:07 | 0:50:10 | |
well, am I to put my pyjamas on? | 0:50:10 | 0:50:13 | |
Have I to take pyjamas? | 0:50:13 | 0:50:15 | |
Have I to take a nightie? | 0:50:15 | 0:50:17 | |
It's a bit, you know, a bit worrying | 0:50:17 | 0:50:19 | |
when you're not sure whether you want to take a nightie or pyjamas. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:24 | |
I mean, talking to some of the people at work, they said, | 0:50:25 | 0:50:28 | |
"Well, you won't want either of them." I thought, "I will. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:32 | |
"I'm not getting into bed without a nightie on. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
Then when you're getting undressed... | 0:50:36 | 0:50:39 | |
Well, am I to put my nightie on first? | 0:50:39 | 0:50:41 | |
Have I to put it on, then will he ask me to take it off? | 0:50:41 | 0:50:44 | |
I don't know whether it went on and came off or whatever! | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
I've forgotten. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:51 | |
However, there was yet further embarrassment for Eileen | 0:50:54 | 0:50:57 | |
as she contemplated coming down to breakfast with her husband | 0:50:57 | 0:51:00 | |
the following morning. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:02 | |
Eileen, the wife, she was quite concerned - "Will we go now? | 0:51:03 | 0:51:07 | |
"They'll all be looking at us. What will they think?" | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
I said, "I'm not bothered what they think. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
I said, "We're married now." | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
"Well, I don't like going down." I said, "I want some breakfast! | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
"I'm hungry." I said, "Come on, never mind what they think." | 0:51:17 | 0:51:21 | |
She said, "They'll be staring at us." | 0:51:21 | 0:51:23 | |
I said, "Well, let them stare, I'm not bothered." | 0:51:23 | 0:51:26 | |
For married couples in the '50s, happiness was a new home, | 0:51:31 | 0:51:35 | |
and DIY and home improvements became a national pastime. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
Even the addition of an indoor bathroom and toilet | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
could be a dream come true. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:42 | |
I didn't have a bathroom and I didn't have an inside toilet. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
But through from the kitchen at the time was a kind of archway. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:52 | |
And a fireplace beside it. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:54 | |
So I busted through from the kitchen into this room | 0:51:54 | 0:51:58 | |
what was behind it, but that had been a washhouse. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
Cos there was a copper in the corner. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:03 | |
So I took the copper out and I made that into a bathroom. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
So now we had an indoor bathroom, but still had an outdoor loo. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:10 | |
Had to go down the yard to the loo. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:12 | |
So that joined the bathroom. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:14 | |
So I busted through from the bathroom into the loo | 0:52:14 | 0:52:18 | |
and put a doorway in there. So now we had indoor loo, indoor bathroom. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:23 | |
And that was really going up-market to have an indoor bathroom. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:26 | |
Cos half of them houses off Cleeve Road didn't have a bathroom. | 0:52:26 | 0:52:30 | |
And they never had an indoor loo. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:32 | |
The post-war baby boom grew out of a new spirit of optimism | 0:52:35 | 0:52:39 | |
for the future. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:40 | |
It was unquestioned that this future would be built around the institution of marriage, | 0:52:40 | 0:52:45 | |
leading onto a happy and stable family life. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:48 | |
The introduction of the welfare state and the National Health Service in the late 1940s | 0:52:48 | 0:52:52 | |
made this life look more promising than ever before. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
Nevertheless, some of the new babies were unplanned, | 0:52:55 | 0:52:59 | |
a consequence of their mother's total lack of any knowledge | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
about birth control. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:04 | |
I kept getting up in the night, feeling rotten. Feeling quite sick. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:09 | |
And Arthur came along and said, "Go across to the doctor's." | 0:53:09 | 0:53:12 | |
And it was a new doctor that I didn't know, | 0:53:12 | 0:53:14 | |
so he took me across to register at the doctor, where we lived, his doctor. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:19 | |
And he said, bring a sample of water in - your urine. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:24 | |
Which I did, the following day and he tested it. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
And he said, "Yes, you're pregnant." | 0:53:26 | 0:53:29 | |
How can he tell with water? | 0:53:29 | 0:53:32 | |
I thought, "Never in this world. No." | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
So then I went on to my mother's | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
and I said, "Book me in to our own doctor," which I did. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:41 | |
And he took me in and I said, "The doctor says I'm pregnant," but I said, "I'm not." | 0:53:41 | 0:53:46 | |
I said, "I just feel really sick. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:48 | |
"I think I have an ulcer or something. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:50 | |
So he said, "All right. I'll examine you." | 0:53:50 | 0:53:53 | |
And then afterwards he says "Yes." He said, "You are pregnant. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:56 | |
"I think you're round about three month." | 0:53:56 | 0:53:59 | |
I said, "No, I can't be." | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
He said, "And why not? You're a married woman." | 0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | |
I said, "Yes, but we haven't been trying." | 0:54:03 | 0:54:06 | |
He said, "Well, if you haven't been trying, you've succeeded, | 0:54:06 | 0:54:08 | |
"because you're definitely pregnant." | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
Eileen's baby son David was born in 1952. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:18 | |
For her, motherhood was a rite of passage. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:22 | |
From the minute that David was born, | 0:54:22 | 0:54:26 | |
the minute that they brought him in and put him in my arms, | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
I suddenly grew up. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
Cos until then, it had just been me, you know. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:36 | |
I just did what I did, I went out and enjoyed myself. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:40 | |
And then I realised that I had a great responsibility. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:44 | |
This little tiny thing was solely going to be relying on me. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:48 | |
And that was the first time that I really felt that I'd grown up. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:53 | |
As with many others of her generation, | 0:54:54 | 0:54:56 | |
Eileen and Arthur have remained happily married for life | 0:54:56 | 0:55:00 | |
and recently celebrated their 60th wedding anniversary. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:04 | |
By the late '50s, a new and restless younger generation | 0:55:11 | 0:55:15 | |
was growing up much faster. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:18 | |
Inspired by modern jazz and rock and roll, | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
they began to enjoy the fruits of affluence in post-war Britain. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:25 | |
The new breed of young men and women were more independent | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
and questioning of authority, | 0:55:28 | 0:55:30 | |
very different from those who had served in two world wars. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:34 | |
Denise Robertson bridged these two generations. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:39 | |
She wanted a man who was like her father, but also different. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:42 | |
When she met an older man from the Shetlands, a ship's captain on his shore leave on Tyneside, | 0:55:44 | 0:55:49 | |
she thought she had found him. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:52 | |
He rang me up and he said, "The ship's coming in. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:56 | |
"I want to take you out, I've got something important to say to you." | 0:55:56 | 0:56:00 | |
And I said to my mother, "He's going to propose. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
"But I'm not going to say yes this time." | 0:56:03 | 0:56:05 | |
And he took me out to dinner and he said, "I want to talk to you." | 0:56:07 | 0:56:11 | |
"I...won't be seeing you again. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:15 | |
"Because if I see you again, I will want to marry you | 0:56:15 | 0:56:20 | |
"and I don't want to get married." | 0:56:20 | 0:56:22 | |
And I thought, "Right, that's great. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:26 | |
"I don't have to worry - he's not going to propose." | 0:56:26 | 0:56:31 | |
And I promptly forgot all about him. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:33 | |
I think that was October... | 0:56:36 | 0:56:39 | |
and in January he rang me up again | 0:56:39 | 0:56:43 | |
and said, "I don't know if I can live with you, | 0:56:43 | 0:56:46 | |
"but I know now I can't live without you." | 0:56:46 | 0:56:49 | |
And we were married about five months later. | 0:56:55 | 0:57:00 | |
And I have never been so happy. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
But in the '60s and '70s, | 0:57:09 | 0:57:11 | |
the institution of marriage would be questioned as never before. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:15 | |
The baby boomers began to rebel against all the traditional values | 0:57:17 | 0:57:22 | |
and institutions that had once been held dear. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:24 | |
The stage was set for a cultural revolution | 0:57:26 | 0:57:29 | |
that would start to transform the meaning of love and marriage | 0:57:29 | 0:57:33 | |
in Britain for ever. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:35 | |
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