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The first day back at school is a stomach-churning experience. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
I used to hate it. There used to seem like | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
this interminable stretch in front before the next holidays. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
Oh, it's just desperation and dread. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
We're the Hairy Bikers | 0:00:14 | 0:00:15 | |
and we both had a tough time when we were at school. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
-And for kids today, it's just as tough. -Ba-ba-ba! | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
There's disruption... | 0:00:23 | 0:00:24 | |
-I punch stuff, I kick or I throw stuff. -..bullying... | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
They're all saying how much I should kill myself, | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
I should jump off a bridge. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
Before you say stuff about someone, you should know more about them. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
..and failure. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
But this struggling school has embarked on a crazy | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
and ambitious project | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
to transform the lives of young and old alike. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
And we want to help. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
This is like Grange Hill crossed with Last Of The Summer Wine. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
Across town, there's lonely, undervalued and isolated old folk. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
I've lost the knack, if you like. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
What will happen when we bring the quiet and the noisy together? | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
Come on, you can do it. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
There we are, darling, ten is up. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
Will they get on? | 0:01:13 | 0:01:14 | |
They're just as likely to pull a knife out and kill you. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
-Obnoxious, rude. -White working-class kids are going down the drain. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:22 | |
They just stay in with their little box TVs and their knitting. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
CHEERING | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
-If young and old can win each other over... -I brought you some flowers. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
-Oh, lovely. -..could they transform each other? | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
With the old stronger... | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
-He's a boss, he's a beast. -..the young brighter... | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
..and both happier. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
I've never had a selfie done. And it was lovely. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
Do you think the project is going to work? | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
Um, I don't know. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
-ALL: -Old School! | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
Oxford is famous as a city of dreaming spires. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
But a few miles away, in the 1960s, slums were pulled down | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
and one of the biggest housing estates in Europe was built. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
We're on our way to Blackbird Leys, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
where nearly half now live under the poverty line. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
At its heart, a struggling school, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
where this bold new experiment pairing kids and pensioners | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
from the same background is about to take place. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
I didn't expect it to look like this. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
I mean, it's really rather smart. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
-It's a beautiful building, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
Tomorrow, a new term starts - and hopefully a new beginning. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
First off, we're meeting the headmaster. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
Neil, what's the community's perception of the school? | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
The perception of the school, basically, is that | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
it's an underperforming school, that behaviour is poor. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:02 | |
-Do you have a full roll at the school? -Absolutely not, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
-we are about...approximately 600 undersubscribed. -Oh, gosh! | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
In 2014, just 28% of pupils at the Oxford Academy | 0:03:10 | 0:03:15 | |
achieved GCSE grades A to C, some of the lowest results in Britain. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:20 | |
So there is a massive amount riding on this, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
-it's a huge gamble for you, Neil. -Yes, it is. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
I think it's a huge gamble in terms of the school's future, | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
but I believe in the project. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
Like everything, you weigh things up, and I think it's worth the risk. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
I'm visiting Robbie, one of our keenest recruits. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
-Hello, mate, how are you doing? -How you doing? | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
Yeah, good. How are you? | 0:03:50 | 0:03:51 | |
-I'm doing all right. -Yeah? | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
-Any chance of a cup of tea? -Oh, why not? -Go on. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
-How do you take your tea, Dave? -Oh, just a drop of milk, | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
builder's. Thank you very much. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
'Robbie's school attendance isn't good, but he cares for his mum, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
'who has ME, and his three younger sisters.' | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
When I'm not at school, mostly it's helping my mum around the house | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
and whatever else she needs. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
She'll keep telling me, "Go in, go in, I'll be fine," | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
but I know she's not going to be fine. I can't just leave her. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
So I just start feeling guilty if I go to school, so the majority | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
of time now, I will stay and try to help her the best I can. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
It's funny, because I had a similar situation myself. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
My mum was ill, then my dad got ill. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
It was hard going to college and then coming back | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
and having to do the shopping and the looking-after, you know? | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
With my sisters as well, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:41 | |
they're quite the handful because there's three of them. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
-Crikey, so you really are the man of the house. -Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
'Rob is a child carer, the same as I was. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
'I kind of understand where he's coming from. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
'My mum and dad both became very ill, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
'and I tried to nurse them both.' | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
So obviously, I couldn't go to school. So, was I a truant? | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
Well, of course not - I couldn't go to school | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
because I had a sense of moral obligation to my family. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
Robbie has five GCSEs, but his recent poor attendance | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
means he is in danger of being expelled from sixth form. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
Would your first priority always be your sisters and your mum? | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
Yeah, they always come first. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
-You have got a lot on your plate, haven't you? -Yeah. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
-I mean, that is the bottom line of it. -I manage. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
I know you manage, but we want more out of life than managing. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:33 | |
I think you need a few treats yourself. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
Cheers, Robbie, thank you. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
Robbie cares more about other people than himself. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
And if anybody says the stereotypes about selfish teenagers, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:46 | |
then...they are not all selfish, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
and there is a young man there who isn't. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
-Pleased to meet you. -And you. -How are you, you all right? | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
I am OK, thank you. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:54 | |
You've got a good 'un here, haven't you? | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
Oh, he's amazing, absolutely amazing. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
-Thanks, Sonia, thank you. -You're welcome. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
Robbie wants some friendship, guidance and somebody to talk to. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
This project is not just for youngsters, but old people too. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
When we made a TV series about Meals on Wheels, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
we worried many had little to look forward to. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
Now, old and young will pair up to listen to each other's problems | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
and hopefully transform their lives. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
Well, because we have got lazy parenting... | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
..white working-class kids are going down the drain. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
There seems to be a break in the white working-class attitudes | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
to the need to do something. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
We didn't have a choice when we were kids. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
The day after I was 15, you had to have a job. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
Dave worked for years in the local car factory | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
and hopes to pass on some of his skills. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
I thought, "Ooh, yeah, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
"I wouldn't mind helping a couple of kids do something." | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
They might tell me to bugger off, they might tell me, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
"You don't know nothing, you silly old fool," | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
or something, I don't know. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:08 | |
Nearly half our pensioners live alone with no-one to turn to, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
many even afraid to go out. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
Rick used to be a supermarket manager. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
I don't go out to play snooker or any of these things any more. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
I've lost interest in, erm... | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
..socialising. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
I need to find more interests. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
You can't find an interest in a flat, can you? | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
I'm excited about this, it is a completely new experience for me. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:48 | |
# All we need is somebody to lean on... # | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
Morning, everybody. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
Start of the school year, brilliant. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
You've all been bored by the holidays, haven't you? | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
Morning, everybody. Good morning, good morning. Jay, how are you? | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
Good morning. Ties, please, fellas. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
Welcome back. I hope you had a really brilliant summer. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
Can we welcome Si and Dave? | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
You're much better than Jamie Oliver, aren't you? | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
-Oh, aye! -Much better than Jamie Oliver. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
Give them a round of applause | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
and they'll come and explain things to you. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
-Thank you. -Morning, sir and sir. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
Morning. How are you all? | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
MURMURED RESPONSES | 0:08:43 | 0:08:44 | |
Good. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
Well, thank you very much for coming to the assembly. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
It is a very exciting day for us, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
where we kind of properly launch the project Old School. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
-It's never been done in England before. -No. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
And we believe that Oxford Academy is the perfect place to launch this. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
Because a lot of the elderly people, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
while they can give you a lot, they also want quite a lot from you, | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
and we believe that you have got a lot to give them. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
And it's about bringing you both together | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
and seeing what you can learn from each other. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
-And I cannot think of a better place to do it. -Thank you. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
Right, guys, in you come. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
Headmaster Niall has recruited a group of his students | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
as guinea pigs for the experiment. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
These students have been selected to take part in the Old School project | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
because all 12 of the students have experienced | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
some form of difficulties. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
In we come. Last but not least. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
Now, that might be attendance issues, punctuality issues, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
problems outside of school or overall academic underachievement. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:51 | |
First, the school give our students a self-esteem test. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
At the end of term, they will repeat it to see if they are happier | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
and more confident and doing better academically. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
You need to make sure that you read every question | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
and then you have got the option of yes or no. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
You need to be as honest as you possibly can with this. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
"Do you feel that you are as happy as others are?" | 0:10:15 | 0:10:20 | |
"Do you feel as though your family trusts you?" | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
Yes. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
I think sometimes we take for granted that our students | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
are pretty happy at home and at school, and I think as teachers, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
we don't like to think that they wouldn't feel good about themselves. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
"Are you ever sad?" | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
-(Yes.) -'Self-esteem is a massive barrier to their learning.' | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
"Do you have friends you can...confide in?" | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
'Last year, 13-year-old Tawne had issues with bullying | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
'and missed over a third of her lessons.' | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
At one point, everyone in my year group was against me. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
No-one would speak to me, and I was just completely alone. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
My attendance now is at 70%, and it won't go back up, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
because I took a good three months off school. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
"Do you ever get angry?" Yes. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
'Jacub, also in Year 9, must take tablets for his ADHD every morning | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
'before he is allowed to come to school.' | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
You wouldn't really notice I have got ADHD | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
when I take my medication, but you would notice that | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
I have got anger issues, because I get really, really angry easily. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
I can be funny sometimes, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
but I end up crossing the line most of the time. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
-TEACHER: -"Do people like your ideas?" | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
No. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
'It seems far-fetched | 0:11:40 | 0:11:41 | |
'that simple friendships across generations | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
'will make a big difference, but research in the US and Japan | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
'suggest this can improve the minds and strength of the old | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
'and the confidence and exam results of the young.' | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
It's the start of a new school day, and Jacub is rushing. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
Late, as usual. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:05 | |
-Can you take that off the side, please?! -Sorry! -Jesus. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:12 | |
-Don't start with your mouth this morning. -I'm not, I'm just saying. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
-High five. -See you later. -Gimme a high five. -Give Jacub a high five. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
Yeah. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
-Jacub, no C4s. -Oh, my days, man. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
Jacub is not supposed to go to school | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
unless he has taken medication for his ADHD. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
The reason I wouldn't want to take my medication is because, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
like, two hours after I take it, I feel sick, and I almost be sick. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
When I take it, I am much more calm. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
But I don't like being calmer, because it's not...who I like to be. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:53 | |
I like to be, like, hyper and energetic. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
Although there's 12 students, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
we've only got half the old people signed up. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
So the kids have been challenged to help find the rest themselves. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
They are already in the art room, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
designing posters to take to the local shopping centre. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
-I'm going to do an egg on mine as well. -An egg? | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
Yeah, an egg, cos it's food. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
-Hairy Bikers - duh! -Yeah, but this ain't about food, is it? | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
Duh(!) | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
-Ohhh. -Ohh. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
-How are you doing? -Hello. Are you well? | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
-Yeah. -Good. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:39 | |
-This table, it looks... -It's a creative table. -Oh, wow. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
Nice to meet you. Hi, I'm Si. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
Tell you what, hold on, look. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:49 | |
-Hey, this is great. -It's brilliant. -Well done, well done. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
Si, look. There's everything we can get into. Cooking, texting, food... | 0:13:56 | 0:14:01 | |
YouTube, music, singing, dancing...baking. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
-Well, we can help with that. -DAVE LAUGHS | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
'These kids want help, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
'but they are sceptical about what pensioners have to offer.' | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
The things we do and the things they do are completely different. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
They just stay in with their little box TVs and their knitting stuff... | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
and we have our big plasma TVs. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
Because they don't really speak to us | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
and communicate with us, they probably think | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
that we are horrible and we don't want to know them. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
They just sit in all day and tend to avoid other people. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:36 | |
That's what my nan and gramp do, anyway. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
Do you think they sit in and tend to avoid other people | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
or do you think it is because they are actually quite shy and lonely? | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
It's like... | 0:14:46 | 0:14:47 | |
my gramp doesn't understand how to speak to teenagers. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
He will find it quite awkward to start a conversation with us. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
Have you finished your posters and stuff? | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
-Are you happy with them? -Yeah. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
-Great. -Yeah, smashing. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
The yellow bus. Right. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
'You know what, Kingy? This is definitely more fun. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
'Well, than double maths.' | 0:15:08 | 0:15:09 | |
What sort of an old person are you hoping to find? | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
Someone with a good personality and... | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
Someone you can have a really good conversation with | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
and they know what you're talking about. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
That's quite important to you, isn't it? | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
Yeah. Someone that understands you. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
And someone that... | 0:15:24 | 0:15:25 | |
Say if you open up to them, they know how you are feeling, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
you can tell them about how your life has been | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
and how you want it to turn out and that. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
'As well as his ADHD, Jacub has also been forced to cope with | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
'the death of his father eight years ago.' | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
We used to always, like, go on my bouncy castles and trampolines, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
swimming pool, we used to always go swimming, bike rides, and then... | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
he just died. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
-It's a hard journey, isn't it? -Yeah. -Cos my dad died when I was eight. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:02 | |
And every... | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
You're left to deal with everybody | 0:16:04 | 0:16:05 | |
-who's really sad in the family, aren't you? -Yeah. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
Because it is not something that you ever think is going to happen, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
-do you? -No. -Until you get older. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
Right, we're here! | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
'First stop on our recruitment drive - the local shopping centre.' | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
Right, hold on, hold on. Coming through, Jacub coming through. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
JACUB LAUGHS | 0:16:28 | 0:16:29 | |
This is like Grange Hill crossed with Last of the Summer Wine. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
Right... Oh, brilliant! Look at this. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
Great. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
Let's go. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
'The plan is to divide and conquer. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
'I'm taking Milly, Tawne and Bethany... | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
'while Jacub strikes out on his own.' | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
But it isn't easy. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
Many of the old people are scared of young antisocial behaviour. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
The teenagers today are too inclined to, shall we say, be violent. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
They're just as likely to pull a knife out and kill you, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
I think it's terrible. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
-We are doing a community project. -Mm-hmm. -So it is basically... | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
Oh, sorry. Sorry. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
You're all right. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
Maybe another time, maybe another time, but not at the moment, like. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
Working with teenagers is lying around, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
doing nothing, going nowhere. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
Not looking for work. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
Years ago, we had to work to get everything we wanted, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
but these days, they just have it on a plate. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
'And I think we are asking a lot of our old folk.' | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
No, sorry, I'm far too busy. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
'They need to commit to a two-hour meeting every week | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
'for the entire autumn term.' | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
How do you fancy adopting some more grandchildren? | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
-No. -Oh, no, thank you. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:55 | |
-No? -No. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
You've got the time, you've got the freedom, you've got the expertise. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
-No, we WANT the time and the freedom, don't we? -Aww. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
Robbie has had a smart idea. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
He's brought his games console in hope of enticing the oldies... | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
with the promise of IT training. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
Heyyy! | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
Boom! | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
Oh, now I have... WOMAN LAUGHS | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
-Oh, God. -You can have a go. -No, no. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:26 | |
'And it seems to be working.' | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
That grabs it, and then you lift and chuck. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
-Oh, good heavens. -Yep. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:32 | |
-Do you know your number? -No. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
-You don't? -WOMAN LAUGHS | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
'The offer of practical help with the modern world | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
'is striking a chord with the pensioners.' | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
MOBILE PHONE CHIMES | 0:18:43 | 0:18:44 | |
-This is a hello I've sent from your phone. -Oh, I see. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
-Oh, thank you, dear. -You're welcome. -Come on. Oh, me lipstick. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:52 | |
-And what's your name? -And even Milly and Tawne have got involved! | 0:18:52 | 0:18:57 | |
We're both 13 and we're going into Year 9. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
-It was really hard at first, like... -Yeah. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
..getting the confidence up and gradually getting into it, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
but then we come up with a plan and eventually did it. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
Yeah! | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
Bring it in, yeah. Well done. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
Call me a cynical old fella, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
but I didn't think people would sign up, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
especially when confronted in a shopping centre, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
but people have, and people have engaged with it. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
-Did you guys like school? -Very much. -I loved it, I loved it. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
It is a week since our trip to the shopping centre, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
and we have signed up all 12 elderly recruits. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
And they are going back to school for the first time in decades. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
I was last at school, I was 15 and a half. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
It was 1964, and I didn't like school, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
and the feeling of going back is actually making my stomach churn. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
It's like going into school and starting school again. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
I am a bit nervous of what the kids will expect of us. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
-Good morning, good morning. -Are you all right? Give me a hug. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
Good morning, sir. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
-Hello, welcome back to school. -Yes, nice to be back. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
Hello, love. Welcome to Oxford Academy. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
Trust me. Are we beautiful? Are we beautiful? | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
Back to school, eh? How does it feel? | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
I can't remember. That was about 70, 75 years ago when I left school. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:41 | |
By the end of today, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:42 | |
each of these old folk will be matched to a younger person. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:47 | |
The success or failure of the entire Old School project | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
rests on these pairings hitting it off. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
-Welcome to the Oxford Academy. -Thank you very much. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
Thank you very much for having us. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
-Hi. -I'm Vic, pleased to meet you. -Bethany. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
Hello, pleased to meet you. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
This is Ky, Kyrone, and this is Jacub, and... | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
-DAVE AND SI: -..Kimberly. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
'Ey-up, mate, it's a bit like the first contact in a sci-fi film. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:15 | |
'It's no wonder, mucker. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:16 | |
'With an average age gap of 50 years between the two generations, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
'will they even speak the same language?' | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
How long have you...? I don't even know | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
-what I'm supposed to be saying. -How long have I... | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
-lived? -I don't know! | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
Thank you. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
When we were at school, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:38 | |
we used to have to take a ration book to get your dinner. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
If we spoke to t'headmaster, it was trouble. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
Listen, times have changed, times have changed. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
-I speak to everybody every day. -I'm terrified here. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
I promise, I promise, I give you my Scottish word, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
we will look after you. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:55 | |
-I am overwhelmed by it all. -No, don't get overwhelmed by it. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
I'm just gobsmacked by it all, never been in the place. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:06 | |
I feel a bit emotional, actually. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
71-year-old Dave hasn't set foot in a school for over half a century. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:21 | |
It's wonderful, innit? I mean, everything about it. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
The teachers... | 0:22:29 | 0:22:30 | |
We couldn't talk to our teachers. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
Christ. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
Do you know, when we were kids, | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
if you spoke to a teacher out in the street, you were in trouble. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
I've never been in a school like that. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
I feel so stupid. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
I'm terrified. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
Absolutely terrified. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
Just everything. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
Now, this is the moment we have all been waiting for, really. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
-Yes, this is it. -Where we meet our future chums. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
I know for us, as Hairy Bikers, when there's two of you, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
-as a team, you are infinitely stronger than two individuals. -Yeah. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:23 | |
So, Jamie, we're going to need the two builders over there... | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
To get them talking and finding out about each other, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
they start off with some games. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
Then they will pick their favourite partner. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
-This the driver? -Yeah, that is the driver. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
-The two orange bricks on the second row. -I can't see what colour it is. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:43 | |
A man in the front. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
Is there men in the front? | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
Facilitator Professor Charles Irvine has organised the games. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
Find yourself a juicy apple to talk to, please. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
He wants everybody to meet everybody, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
because scientists have shown | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
you can suss a person out in under a second. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
I'm also a very loyal person. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
I play, like, zombie games and that. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
I've got Dead Rising and Dead Rising 2, and I've got Island of the Dead. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
I stick to watching sport these days and I do collect stamps. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:18 | |
Everyone draws up a shortlist, and not all can have their first choice. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
Head teacher Niall knows these kids better than anyone, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
and he helps advise on the final pairings. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
When we look at Wezley and David... | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
-Perfect. -Absolutely A1 perfect choice. -Brilliant. -OK. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
-Milly is really brilliant. -Yep. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
But something she needs confidence and a bit of calmness, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
and I think that's perfect too, yeah. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
We're looking at Jacub and Clive. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
-And Jacub, he has a real good vitality. -Yeah. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
Listen, vitality and energy are two words | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
that sum Jacub up, when quite often he's disappearing | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
down the corridor and I'm chasing after him. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
OTHERS LAUGH | 0:25:02 | 0:25:03 | |
You know, Kingy, this genuinely is a big moment. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
Because the names are being put on the seats. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
I just hope with all my heart that nobody looks at the other | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
and goes, "Oh, no", and their body language tells disappointment. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
You're never going to be able to dot every I and cross every T. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
Please come inside and find your picture and find your chair. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:28 | |
Dave! | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
With the boxer. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
We would like to introduce you to your new partners. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
What I'd like you to do now, please, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
is start to get to know each other. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
I thought that'd be really nice for you. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
-Thank you. -You're welcome, you're more than welcome. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
'I've been matched with Tawne, which is absolutely brilliant, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
'because she put me down as her first one as well, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
'because we found it easy to speak.' | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
She seemed a bit shy, so I spoke to her and that, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
and that was when she told me she didn't like to come to school | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
because she had been bullied, and that's what got to me. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
In those days, people didn't base it off where you come from, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
now you can joke about it. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
'I've been matched with Wezley.' | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
And I put his name on the list and he put mine, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
its such a wonderful thing. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
I would have picked him. Yeah, yeah. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
He would be a good son to have, actually. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
Anyway, I'll see you again. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
Well, we have put the relationships together... | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
-They're young shoots, they need nurturing. -They do. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
It's interesting, these characters together - | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
the relationships will develop, and we have absolutely no control | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
over what's going to happen. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
No, and the big step is, for a while now, they are on their own. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
Three weeks in, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:52 | |
and our newly formed partnerships are meeting up for the first time. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
What's important is, we've not brought olders in from outside, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
they're from the same community, so they should have plenty in common. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
-Hiya. -Hi, Bethany. -I've brought you some flowers. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
Oh, lovely, thank you very much. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
You're welcome. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
Each week, students will be taken out of lessons | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
chosen by teachers to minimise disruption to their education. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
This is 1964, look. Oh, I got a B minus there for English. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
Instead, they'll spend an hour with their senior partners, | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
who will hopefully get them to talk about their biggest worries, | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
ones they can't talk about with their parents and friends. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
-Big school, isn't it? -It's a massive school. -Massive, yeah. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
It's end of break, | 0:27:41 | 0:27:42 | |
and Year 9 Jacub is off to his first partnership meeting. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
-Go on. -Oi! | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
It's on my back, I'm not stupid! | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
BELL RINGS | 0:27:53 | 0:27:54 | |
I'm feeling nervous, because it is my first meeting with Clive | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
and I don't know how it's going to go. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
But I'm happy at the same time, because I like Clive as well. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
Jacub's partner Clive joined Old School | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
along with his wife Marina. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
They've found life hard | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
since they tragically lost their son Matthew to a heroin overdose. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
That's Matthew, erm, just before he died. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:26 | |
You look at him, you wouldn't think he was on drugs. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
Obviously it affected us quite badly. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
Obviously, you grieve. At the start, it's there and it's happened. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:39 | |
But then the shock comes later, I think. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
I feel a bit guilty not sort of noticing | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
how strong he was into drugs. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
Well, it is the reason I went into the Old School project. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
Perhaps it would help me with the loss of Matthew | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
if I could help someone to go down the right path. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:02 | |
Good morning, I'm here to see Jacub. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
There you go. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:06 | |
-Hello. -Hello. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
-Hello, Jacub. -All right, Clive? -How are you? -Good, you? | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
-Yeah. -I'm going to take you round for a tour of the school. -Ahh. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
Miss, can you buzz us out, please? | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
-Thank you! -Where we going this morning, then? | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
Dunno, probably just take you to the C4 room, | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
cos that's where I spent most of my time in Year 7. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
I was always getting C4-ed and I was always getting in trouble. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
What does the C stand for then? | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
I don't know, really, it's like detention. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
it's like a sanction, basically. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
-Yeah. -Hello, Jenny. -Hello. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
Don't worry, I haven't got a C4. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
If you get a C4 you have to sit in one of these cubicles, | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
-which is boring. -That's the whole point of it. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
You have to sit here and just do your work, bored. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
You have to face there, bored. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
13-year-old Milly is also meeting her partner | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
for the first time today. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:00 | |
Milly has been paired up with Janey, a writer and former foster mother. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:06 | |
-Hi. -Good morning, Milly. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
Well, this is awkward. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
-INTERVIEWER: What do you want to say to Janey? -I don't know. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
-What do you normally say when you meet someone? -Nothing. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
'This is a bad start. Learning mentor Julie tries to help.' | 0:30:40 | 0:30:45 | |
-What's the matter? -It's winding me up, I don't want to do it. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
-Who is winding you up? -This whole thing, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
it's just stupid, I don't want to do this any more. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
Do you want to come and talk for a minute? | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
I want to go to my lessons. I don't want to do this. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
OK, do you still want to come and talk for a minute? Come on. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:04 | |
MILLY SIGHS | 0:31:04 | 0:31:05 | |
71-year-old Dave is here for the first meeting with Wezley. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
Meeting young people is a little bit daunting for somebody my age. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
Sorry to trouble you, I wonder if you could tell me | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
where Wezley is, please? | 0:31:21 | 0:31:22 | |
Just hold on there, I will just have a little look at his timetable. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
Worst thing I think could happen is, I will make a mess of it. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:31 | |
That I won't be able to respond, because I'm deaf, | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
which doesn't help. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:35 | |
Dave's partner is 16-year-old Wezley, who has a passion. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
Boxing means everything to me, my dream is to be very successful. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:50 | |
Hopefully turn professional one day. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
At school, Wezley is always getting into scrapes. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
Last year, he was excluded for six days. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
I have always been in trouble. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
I have always been the aggressor in school. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
I was always going around hitting people, | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
because of short temper, short attention span. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
He's trying to turn things around, | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
but his challenge is balancing school life with his boxing dreams. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:21 | |
My biggest fear for the future is that if I don't do boxing, | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
then nothing is going to turn out for me and I won't be successful. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
-Hello, Wezley. -How you going, all right? | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
Thanks for being so quick, I appreciate that. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
It was only a week ago on pairing day | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
that Dave was overwhelmed at how schools have changed since his day. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
What we get is, we get a timetable where there's a piece of paper | 0:32:42 | 0:32:47 | |
and it tells you what classroom you are in, what time it is... | 0:32:47 | 0:32:52 | |
So it's scheduled for you from the school, as it were? | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
-Scheduled from the school, yeah. -Ah. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
Right, I'm going to take you to drama, | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
because that's one of my best lessons ever. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
I have never, ever got a C4 in that lesson. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
But the reason I like it is, I am in a school play now, | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
-I am in Romeo and Juliet. -I wouldn't have thought | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
-you would have liked drama. -I love it. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
It is one of the best lessons ever, it is one of the best rooms ever. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
Talking and sharing might not seem a lot, | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
but these are important first steps in building the confidence | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
and trust that can lead to dramatic improvements for old and young. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:27 | |
This is one of the scripts that we're doing. I'm Tybalt. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
But I get killed off! | 0:33:31 | 0:33:32 | |
-Who are you, Ty...? -I get killed off, it's not fair. -Aww. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
-I get stabbed. -How long does your part last? | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
I've only got, like, a few lines, | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
-because I get killed halfway through. -Ahh. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
That's why I wanted to be Romeo, because I'd get most of the lines. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
-Yeah. -It's good though. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:48 | |
-I like it. -That's brilliant. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
-I'm nervous about the play, though. -How do you find learning the words? | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
-Your script? -We do it in the old-fashioned language as well. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:01 | |
I can read them, but I don't really know what they mean. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
I know that "thou" means "you". | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
I just read from the script because I don't know what the words mean. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
-Yeah, but that's how they spoke in those days, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
They used to swear as well, spit in their thumb and go like that... | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
-And go like that with their thumb. -Oh, was that like a swear word? | 0:34:15 | 0:34:20 | |
Yeah, it's eff you, basically. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
-Oh, is it? -What phrase did you use when you were a kid? | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
Because we use phrases now, like, say if we're going to | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
hit someone, we say, "Oh, we're going to bang him", | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
or, "We're going to spark him in his face." | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
-Spark him? -Yeah, we mean, like, hit him in his face, | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
because that's how we talk now, | 0:34:33 | 0:34:34 | |
I don't know how used to say it when you were kids. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
Yeah, we didn't have this new-fashioned... | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
Like you lot, sparking... Just, you'd say, "I'm going to thump you." | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
Thank you so much for taking me round, Wezley. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:50 | |
-That's really marvellous. -Thank you. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
For our partners to bond, they need to find common ground. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
I went to see Cassius in the Cooper fight. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
-Oh, did you? -Yeah, cos Henry Cooper I used to know very well. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
-Did you? -Yeah. Cooper twins, yeah. -No way. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
Jesus, I didn't know that. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
I chose Dave on my sheet in the first place | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
because he mentioned something about how he used to box, and I think | 0:35:11 | 0:35:16 | |
that if someone used to box, then you can relate to them that way. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
The thing is, Wezley, I have got to ask you certain things, | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
because we're mates now. You take me as a mate, don't you? | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
I class you as a mate, David, why not? | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
Well, what do you want to do long-term? | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
Well, it has to be involved with boxing, of course, | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
so maybe a boxing promoter, I don't know. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
-I'd like to promote. -A sports promoter. -Sports promotion, yes. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:43 | |
They are all good things, but you've got to have... | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
My life has taught me something different. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
-What you have got to have is a backstop. -Yeah. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
Because life has got a funny habit of coming along | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
and smacking you straight in the face. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
So did you have dreams when you were younger? | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
I had dreams of everything. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
My dreams had to change, like yours do, every six months. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
-Mine never change. -Well, they will. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
Things will change for you. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
I spoke to Wez on the basis of my normal approach, which... | 0:36:09 | 0:36:16 | |
I call it tough love. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
I hope that I have been able to influence him enough to make choices | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
which are beneficial to him and the people around him. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:26 | |
We're not middle class, we're working class, that's my hang-up. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:33 | |
You ain't got a rich daddy to fall back on, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
and you've got to have something that feeds you. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
Cos boxing doesn't feed you. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
I felt a bit heartbroken, because I actually joined this project | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
because I wanted positive advice towards my goals. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
So I felt a bit like I didn't want to get involved with | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
the project any more, I wanted to quit. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
What about maths? Are you any good at maths? | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
Well, I've got ADHD and that, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
I can't sit down for more than five minutes in maths without fidgeting. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
I can, like, write some of them. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:09 | |
Once I've finished writing something, | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
I end up turning around, like, messing around. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
If they say I can go outside for five minutes to calm down, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
yeah, that's fine. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:16 | |
But if they keep me into the lesson, I end up getting into trouble. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
Like, if I take my medication, yeah, I'm fine. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
But, like, if I don't take it, I'm like a rocket. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
I'm bouncing off everything. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:26 | |
So you lose your temper if you don't have your medicine? You lose it? | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
If I take my medicine, then I don't need my anger as quick. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
If I don't take it I'm like, | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
I can go from happy to angry in a matter of seconds. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
I punch stuff, I kick stuff, I throw stuff. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
If I take my medicine, I can be, like, a really nice person. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
If I get angry and I take my medication, | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
I calm down, like, straight after. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:44 | |
That's why the school refused to have me in school | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
if I don't take my medication. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
I would like to talk to Jacub more about this ADHD | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
and try and help him. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:54 | |
Erm... | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
But I think that would be, you know, later on down the line, | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
when we've got to know each other a little better. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
Yeah, cheers for coming, anyway. I can't wait till next time. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
-Well, it's nice to see you again, Jacub. -I can't wait till next time. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
I'm looking forward to it. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:08 | |
And look at Jacub. He just chats away. I can't do that. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
I don't know what to say or anything, so I don't want to do it. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
-So you're generally struggling? -Yeah. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
-See you next time. -Yeah, see you. -Take care. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
DAVE: 'Jacub and Clive's meeting seems a success. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
'But it's a different story for Janie and Milly.' | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
I don't want to do this. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
It's annoying me now. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
Milly's pulled out of Old School | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
which, as far as I know, means I have, too. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
I feel quite sad, | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
because I was looking forward to getting to know Milly. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
'The pensioners, like the kids, will be monitored. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
'Dr Carol Holland of the Research Centre for Healthy Ageing | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
'is doing the tests.' | 0:39:06 | 0:39:07 | |
-Any word beginning with "P". -Yeah. -OK. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
'Studies show getting out and forming new relationships | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
'can boost health and mental agility in older people.' | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
So squeeze as hard as you can when you're ready. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:24 | |
'These tests will be repeated in 12 weeks' time | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
'to see if there are any signs of improvement.' | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
-Hi, there. Hi, Dave, you're next. -I'm next? | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
-Thank you. -Come on in. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:33 | |
'In the spirit of partnership, | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
'I've decided to give the tests a go.' | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
So that was a very nice walking speed there. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
-Oh, I do do good walking. -You do. Yeah, that's very good walking. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
Ready, and go. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
'Along with measuring my walking speed, I'm doing a sit-to-stand...' | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
Brilliant. I'll make a note of that. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
'..and the grip strength test.' | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
Just squeeze as hard as you can. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
So release. | 0:39:58 | 0:39:59 | |
My mother used to say, when I was a baby, I had stranglers' hands. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
'Carol also does cognitive tests.' | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
I'm going to read you some words | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
and, for each word, | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
I want you to think of a memory that that reminds you of. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
The first word is board. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
Board... | 0:40:16 | 0:40:17 | |
I always remember we used to have a teacher at school called Mr Eales. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:22 | |
'Our senior partners need to associate each cue word | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
'with a specific and detailed memory.' | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
..and I can just see Mr Eales' chalk scratching against the blackboard. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
OK. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
'The more detailed your memories, | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
'the more of yourself you communicate | 0:40:34 | 0:40:35 | |
'and the better chance you'll have of forming relationships.' | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
The only thing I can think of to do with board is... | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
most probably a board meeting. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
The next one is nervous. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
I think I was very nervous on the first day of this project... | 0:40:47 | 0:40:52 | |
Right. Yeah. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:53 | |
-..when I came along, because I wasn't sure what to expect. -Yeah. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
-So I guess I was pretty nervous that day. -Yeah. OK. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
'The reason memory is really important is that we use it. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
'We use it all the time.' | 0:41:01 | 0:41:02 | |
So if you meet somebody new, you're talking about yourself, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
you're explaining who you are | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
to this new friend that you've just met. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
Which, of course, is what our teenagers | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
and our older people are all doing. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
In this particular project, | 0:41:13 | 0:41:14 | |
if people are doing a lot more communication and socialising, | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
then we would expect this kind of memory to improve over time. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:23 | |
'Socialising may help but, if you're living on your own, | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
'you don't meet people. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
'That's where this project could make all the difference. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
'Rick has lived entirely alone | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
'since the break-up of his family ten years ago.' | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
I do miss socialising. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
I really do miss socialising, but... | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
..I've lost the knack, if you like. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
-TV: -So the wedding dress has been around for hundreds of years. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
And it's certainly changed... | 0:41:54 | 0:41:55 | |
I will watch TV from sort of five o'clock until ten, 11 o'clock maybe. | 0:41:55 | 0:42:00 | |
That's it. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
Day over. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -What's life like? | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
Is it fair to use the word "lonely"? | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
Yeah. Yeah. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
DAVE: 'Today he's going out to meet his partner Robbie, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
'who I met at the start.' | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
Robbie's 16 and I'm coming up 66. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
So, again, there's that large age difference between us. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:32 | |
It might turn out that we have got nothing in common whatsoever. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
The worst-case scenario would be that Robbie... | 0:42:38 | 0:42:42 | |
..doesn't want to know. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:44 | |
'But Katie, who sets up all the meetings, has some bad news.' | 0:42:46 | 0:42:50 | |
-Hello, Rick. It's Katie. How are you? -You all right? | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
I'm good, thank you. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:56 | |
Now, I'm afraid Robbie's not in today. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
-He's unwell. -Oh. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:00 | |
Erm, yes. So I'm really sorry. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
We're going to have to arrange another time. Is that all right? | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
Yeah, that's fine. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:07 | |
I was looking forward to this afternoon. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
Erm... | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
And...yeah, disappointed for him, disappointed for me. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:16 | |
So I'll just go home, cook my tea, | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
which is going to be a bit earlier than I thought it was going to be, | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
watch a bit of snooker or whatever's on TV. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
-SI: -'It's easy to assume young and old are poles apart. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:35 | |
'But they often have struggles in common. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:37 | |
'Retired nurse Judy knows just what it's like to be bullied. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:42 | |
When I was at school, I was bullied badly. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
When I was bullied, I lost my confidence. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
I lost everything. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:49 | |
It made me sort of go inside myself. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
I felt so sick that I would do anything not to go to school. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:58 | |
I want to try and help children that are bullied | 0:43:59 | 0:44:01 | |
to bring themselves out of themselves | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
and tell them they're worth it. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:05 | |
'Today she's come to meet Tawne for the first time.' | 0:44:06 | 0:44:10 | |
Hello. Hi, there. Is Tawne here yet? | 0:44:10 | 0:44:12 | |
'I felt I'd really connect with Tawne | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
'because we've got so much in common. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:17 | |
'She was bullied at school.' | 0:44:18 | 0:44:20 | |
-If you just take a seat. -Thank you. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
'Tawne's missed a lot of school.' | 0:44:26 | 0:44:28 | |
She said that she felt that she couldn't cope with school. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:32 | |
And she even felt sick and didn't want to come. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:36 | |
I'm really excited about meeting her and talking to her | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
and spending some time with her. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
Really excited about that. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
I'm really sorry, but Tawne is not in today. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:51 | |
-She's actually off sick. -Oh. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:53 | |
-Erm, so probably might have to rearrange. -Right. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:57 | |
How disappointing. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:00 | |
Can we just make a note of your name? | 0:45:00 | 0:45:02 | |
It's Judy Watson. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:04 | |
'Yeah, it is hard not to take it personally.' | 0:45:14 | 0:45:16 | |
The very first meet and she's not here. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:20 | |
And I just think, | 0:45:20 | 0:45:22 | |
"Oh, God, she's probably changed her mind or she doesn't want to do it." | 0:45:22 | 0:45:27 | |
I'm worried that it's going to all fall flat. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
But if anything needs to happen, it always happens to me. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:38 | |
Anything goes wrong, it's always me. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:41 | |
'It just seems really upsetting. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
'I just have to wait and see what happens next week.' | 0:45:46 | 0:45:49 | |
-SI: -'We always knew that pairing old and young would be tough. | 0:45:55 | 0:46:00 | |
'But things are not going well.' | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
There's a no-show there and Judy is taking that personally. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:07 | |
And that one is already dead in the water. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
-So I'll turn these over, then. -Yeah. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:12 | |
I mean, David seems intent on dashing Wezley's dreams. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:18 | |
And Robbie and Rick... | 0:46:20 | 0:46:21 | |
You know, Robbie just hasn't... | 0:46:21 | 0:46:23 | |
-stepped up to the plate. -No. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:25 | |
There has to be an investment on both parties | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
or it's simply not going to work. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
Because, at the minute, we haven't got that. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
And I'm not entirely sure with the ones that are going a bit wrong | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
whether the personality types are actually capable | 0:46:34 | 0:46:37 | |
of making that relationship work. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:39 | |
Are the relationships worth pursuing in that case? | 0:46:39 | 0:46:42 | |
What do we do? Do we try and mould them? | 0:46:42 | 0:46:44 | |
Do we try and make them work or we just let go? | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
We're intervening in lives at crucial moments | 0:46:47 | 0:46:51 | |
and at crucial points. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:53 | |
And that's what I care about. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:54 | |
We can't get that wrong. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:56 | |
Full stop. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:57 | |
We can't get that wrong. | 0:46:57 | 0:46:58 | |
And we'll need all the support and help | 0:46:58 | 0:47:00 | |
that we can get from educational professionals, | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
from people like Niall McWilliams, who know their subject. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
-I'm going to be really straight with you. -Yep. Good. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
I... | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
am concerned... | 0:47:14 | 0:47:16 | |
-Yes. -..that we've had four relationships | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
-that haven't particularly worked. -Yeah. Yeah. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
Have we done something that's just not achievable here? | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
Have we backed a wrong 'un? What's your take on it? | 0:47:23 | 0:47:26 | |
-Yes, there has been a 33%, 35% drop-off, whatever it is. -Right. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:31 | |
But then that would be really easy for us all to give up, isn't it? | 0:47:31 | 0:47:35 | |
So, therefore, what we've got to do is, we believe it's important, | 0:47:35 | 0:47:39 | |
therefore, we continue and continue and continue. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:41 | |
I don't think that we need to look at the 30% drop-off rate, | 0:47:41 | 0:47:45 | |
because they might very well come back. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
Let's celebrate that 70% success rate | 0:47:47 | 0:47:51 | |
and go forward from there. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:53 | |
-SI: -'OK, but we're now a month in.' | 0:47:54 | 0:47:56 | |
'We can't have any more failures.' | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
DAVE: 'Wez's relationship with Dave got off to a prickly start. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:11 | |
'Wez opened up about his dream of boxing professionally, | 0:48:12 | 0:48:16 | |
'only for Dave to tell him he should think about a day job instead.' | 0:48:16 | 0:48:20 | |
I didn't like what he said. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
I think he needs to come and watch me | 0:48:23 | 0:48:26 | |
before he starts, you know, saying I need a trade. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:29 | |
He's quite a negative person, to be honest. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:34 | |
But hopefully, I can change his mind. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:36 | |
When I was a kid, a lot of the lads out of the Navy and all that | 0:48:37 | 0:48:40 | |
that came to show us, were originally bare-fist boxers. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:44 | |
They weren't boxers who had gloves. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
We couldn't afford gloves. We had to share them. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:48 | |
When I box, nothing else matters. | 0:48:56 | 0:49:00 | |
I feel like I'm on top of the world and I'm invincible. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:03 | |
Nobody can beat me. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:04 | |
-What is he like as a boxer? -He is good, yeah. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
He's a good boxer, as opposed to a scrapper, is he? | 0:49:13 | 0:49:15 | |
He's dedicated, which a lot of kids are not. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
If we could somehow get him to win a title or two, | 0:49:19 | 0:49:23 | |
then England looked at him and he'd maybe go up on the England squad, | 0:49:23 | 0:49:27 | |
then it just takes off. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:29 | |
Is he good enough for that? | 0:49:29 | 0:49:31 | |
Yeah. Yeah. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:33 | |
Anything I can do to help him? | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
He's at a vulnerable age now. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
-He needs a bit of stability in his life. -Yeah, he does. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
-And he's not really getting it. -We'll help. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
Well done. Well done. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:51 | |
Now, how do you feel about that bout? | 0:49:51 | 0:49:53 | |
-Could have been better. -No. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
You've got a good left. You come in second with your left. | 0:49:57 | 0:50:00 | |
I was just saying, on points, he would have got it. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:04 | |
On points, Wez would have got it. There's no doubt about it. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:09 | |
He'd have won that bout. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:11 | |
He's got something extra. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:17 | |
Really, really has got something extra. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:19 | |
I'm so proud of him. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:21 | |
Seeing him tonight is a totally different Wez. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:25 | |
And the nice thing was I could see in his eyes that he knew I cared. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:29 | |
He showed me that he was better than I thought he was. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
I dismissed him and I shouldn't have ever done that. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
He's given me something tonight. He really has. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:42 | |
He's made me feel good. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:44 | |
And it's... | 0:50:44 | 0:50:45 | |
I haven't felt that good for a very long time about young people. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:50 | |
And to have a young person that's... | 0:50:50 | 0:50:52 | |
not long known me give me that sort of... | 0:50:52 | 0:50:55 | |
-My favourite man. -All right, mate? -All right? | 0:50:55 | 0:50:58 | |
..that sort of a kick, that sort of a value... | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
I can't, just can't explain it. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
DAVE: 'Wez and Dave's relationship is now on firm ground.' | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
-SI: -'But Judy and Tawne, on the other hand, | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
'still haven't even had their first meeting.' | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
'Last week, Tawne failed to show up, leaving Judy deeply upset.' | 0:51:19 | 0:51:24 | |
I came this morning with sort of bated breath thinking, | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
"Oh, gosh, is she coming today? Is she all right?" | 0:51:28 | 0:51:32 | |
And you just don't know, you know? | 0:51:32 | 0:51:35 | |
But, erm, I hope she's here, anyway. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
So we just wait and see. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:41 | |
-Hiya. -Hello, Tawne! | 0:51:44 | 0:51:46 | |
-How are you? -I'm doing good. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:48 | |
Are you feeling a lot better than you did last week? | 0:51:48 | 0:51:50 | |
-A lot better, yeah. -Oh, fantastic. I was worried about you. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:54 | |
-SI: -'Last year, Tawne had a tough time with severe bullying.' | 0:51:55 | 0:51:58 | |
Everyone was calling me names. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:02 | |
People would follow me from school and throw stuff at me. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:06 | |
And I'd be, like, scared to walk between certain lessons, | 0:52:06 | 0:52:09 | |
walk by myself. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:10 | |
It made me be feel like no-one wanted to be around me, | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
like I was just completely, like, invisible. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
'For Tawne, the bullying didn't stop at the school gates | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
'and the abuse continued online.' | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
Cyber bullying is the worst that it can get. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:29 | |
They were talking to themselves, | 0:52:29 | 0:52:30 | |
saying how much I should kill myself, I should jump off a bridge. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:33 | |
'It drove her to drastic ends.' | 0:52:34 | 0:52:37 | |
I was basically cutting myself. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:39 | |
I felt inside that, like, this was something | 0:52:39 | 0:52:42 | |
that I could do with myself | 0:52:42 | 0:52:43 | |
that she couldn't do to me. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
And, like, I could do it and, like, I would overpower her in a way. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:48 | |
Like, I could do this and she couldn't. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:51 | |
This is just the art block. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
'Tawne can now finally give Judy her school tour | 0:52:55 | 0:52:57 | |
'and has chosen to focus on the art department | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
'and to show one of her works.' | 0:53:00 | 0:53:02 | |
This... That one right there | 0:53:02 | 0:53:04 | |
with all, like, the black coming up. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:07 | |
Oh...! | 0:53:07 | 0:53:08 | |
I was really wary about what she was going to say about it | 0:53:08 | 0:53:11 | |
because of the particular topic that was on. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
Whether she'd, like, in a way judge me for it. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:17 | |
I think that is absolutely fantastic. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:25 | |
You've done a really good job. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:28 | |
-You should be proud of yourself. -Thank you. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:31 | |
It was all about bullying, razor blades and tears. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:37 | |
It was very, very sad to see a girl of that age | 0:53:37 | 0:53:40 | |
doing a picture like that. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:42 | |
I felt that this was... | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
this was asking for help. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:48 | |
DAVE: 'Jacub's also facing his demons. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:57 | |
'Today, he forgot to take his medication | 0:53:58 | 0:54:00 | |
'and now has been thrown out of his lesson for being disruptive.' | 0:54:00 | 0:54:04 | |
You know, I walked out the door, slammed it open, | 0:54:05 | 0:54:07 | |
I started punching the wall. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:09 | |
It's just annoying. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:14 | |
Because every other time they think it's me | 0:54:14 | 0:54:16 | |
and they always blame it on me. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:17 | |
I kick off and they end up giving me a C4. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:19 | |
It's like they always pick on me | 0:54:19 | 0:54:21 | |
because they know I'm going to lose my temper. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:23 | |
I think I might talk to Clive | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
about how to stop, like, losing my temper so quick | 0:54:30 | 0:54:33 | |
and how to stop... | 0:54:33 | 0:54:36 | |
getting so angry, like, really easy. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:38 | |
Right, everybody can go. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
'Jacub often refuses to listen to his teachers. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
'But can Clive help?' | 0:54:50 | 0:54:52 | |
'Getting into big trouble at school is something Clive knows all about.' | 0:54:54 | 0:54:58 | |
I was a bit like Jacub. Erm... | 0:54:58 | 0:55:01 | |
I did have a short temper. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
Being mixed race, kids always called you names or said silly things, | 0:55:05 | 0:55:10 | |
like "blacky" and "get back to the jungle" and that sort of thing. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:13 | |
And that... You know, that really got me then. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
But I always stood up for myself and get into fights. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:21 | |
And I had the cane a couple of times. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
He said, "Jacub, get outside now." Like, shouting at me. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:26 | |
So then I threw my chair onto the floor, | 0:55:26 | 0:55:29 | |
I went to the door and punched the door open | 0:55:29 | 0:55:31 | |
-and then went outside and started punching the wall and that. -Hm... | 0:55:31 | 0:55:35 | |
-It's a matter of control, then, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
You know, because it only makes you feel worse. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
Did you have to apologise or...? | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
Yeah, I had to go and apologise to the teacher. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:45 | |
Then I walked off and got a book. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
-So you sort of learned your lesson a little bit? -Yeah. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
DAVE: 'Seeing Jacub getting into trouble | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
'brings back unhappy memories for Clive. ' | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
My son, he got in with a crowd. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:03 | |
It was drugs and... | 0:56:03 | 0:56:05 | |
Then one thing led to another. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
The soft drugs turned to heroin. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:09 | |
And, you know, it killed him, anyway. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:13 | |
Jacub's 13 years old. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:17 | |
And he's reaching that point where he can go either way. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:21 | |
If he takes the left fork, you know, it could be disastrous. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:25 | |
If he takes the right fork, then that's the right way to go. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
And, you know, perhaps I can help him, give him some advice, | 0:56:30 | 0:56:34 | |
some experience that, you know, "Jacub, take the right fork." | 0:56:34 | 0:56:38 | |
-SI: -'Our first month is up. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:50 | |
'Most partnerships have just about made it through. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:54 | |
'You can see trust developing | 0:56:54 | 0:56:56 | |
'and signs that they're going to be good for each other.' | 0:56:56 | 0:56:59 | |
DAVE: 'Oh, boy, hasn't it been emotional? | 0:56:59 | 0:57:02 | |
'And we've only just started.' | 0:57:02 | 0:57:04 | |
-Whoa! -He-he-heee! | 0:57:04 | 0:57:07 | |
I tell you what, man, this has got to be the scariest, | 0:57:07 | 0:57:11 | |
most bonkers, up and down, emotionally draining journey | 0:57:11 | 0:57:16 | |
-we've ever been on. -Oh, I feel as though I've been through a mincer. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:19 | |
-I mean, there's been laughter, tears, all of that. -Yeah. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:22 | |
You know, sometimes, you see these little nuggets of love | 0:57:22 | 0:57:25 | |
that makes you, makes you well up. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:26 | |
-Other times, it's blooming heartbreaking. -It is. | 0:57:26 | 0:57:29 | |
But never let anybody tell me | 0:57:29 | 0:57:32 | |
that older people and youngsters can't get on. | 0:57:32 | 0:57:35 | |
There are bridges to be built but, once they're there, | 0:57:35 | 0:57:38 | |
I think we're on to something really big, really valuable. | 0:57:38 | 0:57:41 | |
Oh, definitely. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:42 | |
'Next time...' | 0:57:46 | 0:57:47 | |
Maybe some of us oldies don't actually listen. | 0:57:47 | 0:57:51 | |
'..as we try to unite everyone...' | 0:57:52 | 0:57:54 | |
She interrupts me, doesn't let me talk. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:57 | |
'..communication breaks down.' | 0:57:57 | 0:57:59 | |
I'm just a bit concerned that this is one opportunity you have | 0:57:59 | 0:58:01 | |
to get a qualification. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:03 | |
I hope it doesn't end in tears. | 0:58:04 | 0:58:06 | |
'What do you think of the older and younger generations of today? | 0:58:08 | 0:58:11 | |
'Well, to find out more and have your say, go to... | 0:58:11 | 0:58:15 | |
..and follow the link to the Open University. | 0:58:18 | 0:58:20 |