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In the UK, an estimated one in seven couples | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
suffer fertility problems of some kind. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
Every year, | 0:00:12 | 0:00:12 | |
thousands of these will seek help in the form of fertility treatment. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:17 | |
For some, this will be a success, | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
resulting in a much-longed-for child. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
It's more than we ever thought it would be. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
And to get two at the one time is double the bonus. It's just amazing. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:35 | |
And some women go to extraordinary lengths | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
to help others achieve their dream. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
'I know it's not simple and straightforward.' | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
There is lot of work involved with being an egg donor, | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
but it's a small thing to do for giving someone something so huge. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:51 | |
This is the story of fertility in Northern Ireland | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
and the lengths that some couples and individuals must go to | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
to have a baby. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:01 | |
Mel is a 24-year-old mother of three | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
who has made the brave decision to donate her eggs | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
in the hope that someone experiencing fertility problems | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
may benefit. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:23 | |
'My friend asked me to donate eggs about two years ago, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
'but I was too young to do it on the NHS.' | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
I've got a few other friends as well who've been through IVF | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
or have gone through IVF, got pregnant, had a baby who's died | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
and then are either considering | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
starting the journey again or having a life with no children. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
But it's not just her friends' experiences that have inspired Mel. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:52 | |
'My first little boy with my partner was stillborn.' | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
And there wasn't very long in-between him dying | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
and our second son being born, and it was a new lease of life for me. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
He didn't make everything OK, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
but he brought a lot of happiness into our lives | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
that wouldn't have been there. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
'I've moved on a great deal from where I was, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
'but I don't think I'll ever be right again, you know?' | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
It's a damage that can't be undone. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
And it's not even just that I miss him or that I'm grieving for him, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
it's affected so many other parts of my life - | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
the way I treat my children. I probably do baby them too much. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
This is my youngest, Amira, who's almost one. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
She's a crazy little child. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:37 | |
But I wouldn't change you, with your craziness! | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
'I was very lucky that I got pregnant again quite quickly, | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
'but even in the space in-between | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
'it felt like it would never, ever happen for me.' | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
I got a glimpse into how it must feel to go through that | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
month after month after month, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
and especially when people have a reason | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
and they know that it's highly unlikely to happen, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
but they still just keep trying. To me, that is amazing strength. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
Who are you laughing at? | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
Aww! Burped! | 0:03:07 | 0:03:08 | |
Today, Mel is attending Origin Fertility Care, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
a private fertility clinic, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
for the first step on her journey to donate her eggs. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
Thanks for coming back again. It's great to see you. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
The good news is that all the screening has been done | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
and all the results are fine. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:28 | |
And if you're still happy, then we'd be really glad to go ahead | 0:03:28 | 0:03:33 | |
and do a donation cycle with you. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:34 | |
We'd plan to start your first drug, | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
and that drug is an injection of Suprefact, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
and it basically blocks the feedback pathway | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
that you normally have in your own system | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
between your brain and your ovaries. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
And it's just a little injection in your tummy or your thigh. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
So that's something you can do yourself. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
Then you will start the stimulation, | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
and the Menopur, basically, is going to stimulate your ovaries | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
to produce more than the one egg that you naturally produce yourself. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
It's just that cycle... | 0:04:03 | 0:04:04 | |
'I'm doing this - bottom line - to give someone a baby, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
'hopefully to give two people a baby.' | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
And I think I have to keep a hold of the thought | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
that, yes, babies will come out of it, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
I'd rather be disappointed than be negative the whole way along, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
if you know what I mean. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
I just want to be positive | 0:04:18 | 0:04:19 | |
and hope that there will be little babies come out of it at the end. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
Jude and Brian from Belfast have been married for almost five years, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
but their wish to have a child remains unfulfilled. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
As time goes by, and maybe six months go by, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
you do sort of start to read things, maybe, or just seek out... | 0:04:39 | 0:04:44 | |
I mean, the internet is a wonderful thing | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
and maybe not such a wonderful thing! | 0:04:46 | 0:04:47 | |
But you start to look it up, and everything says | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
"Wait a year" or "Try for a year". | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
'After a year, we went to the GP. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
'They do a certain number of months' worth of tests.' | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
Then you're referred to the fertility clinic. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
And that takes a little while to get your appointment, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:08 | |
and then they sort of repeat all the same tests again. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
And then that's sort of two years. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
Every couple in Northern Ireland | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
is entitled to one free fertility cycle on the NHS. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
After a long wait, Jude and Brian have been told | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
that their fertility treatment | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
at the Regional Fertility Centre in Belfast is about to begin. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
'We've had some tests and blood tests and some screenings.' | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
And next week we are going for our first, I think, appointment | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
that I think sets everything out for us, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
what is going to happen in the next number of months. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
'We'd love it to happen. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:49 | |
'But if it doesn't happen, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
'we do have great nieces, nephews, friends.' | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
-There are other options. -There are other options. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
And we've been looking at fostering. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
Obviously, then, the future of that is adoption. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
But, you know, there's other things available for us | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
-if this doesn't happen. -Mm-hm. Mm-hm. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
'I'm really, really trying not to get my hopes up, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
'but you have to balance that with being positive.' | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
We'll just start it, get through it. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
-It's not going to be the worst thing in the world. -No! | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
You know, there's plenty of worse things that people have to do. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
And, you know, hopefully, hopefully it'll take and work. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
At home, Mel has started administering her own injections. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
These injections are designed to stop Mel's natural menstrual cycle | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
so that it can be artificially controlled. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
This will enable Mel's egg production to be co-ordinated | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
with the women who are waiting to receive her eggs. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
'It hasn't taken over my life, as I feared at the beginning it might do. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
'You know, when we got to this stage | 0:07:01 | 0:07:02 | |
'it was going to be that my life would all be about egg donation.' | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
And it hasn't, it's just my life with something extra in it. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
The catalyst for me coming forward to donate eggs was the death of our son, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
and it seems a bit of an odd coincidence, maybe, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
that I had to start injecting myself on the anniversary of his death. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
Erm...so I don't know whether that's a sign that he's here, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
that he's going to help me through it, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
but it has been a kind of comfort, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
it's given me something else to focus on | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
on the anniversary of his death and then his birthday. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
The fact that it's all fallen in the same week | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
I think is a bit more than a coincidence. I don't know. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
I read something the other day, actually. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
It says grief does not get easier with time, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
the only reason it feels easier | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
is that you become accustomed to the burden, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
and I think it's true that I'm used to now feeling someone's missing. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:04 | |
I suppose it's better than actively grieving over him for six years, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
because you can't physically do that, I don't think. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
It'd just drain the life out of you. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
But, yeah, we're getting there. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
I think! | 0:08:16 | 0:08:17 | |
Mel's egg donation is totally anonymous, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
and any children born as a result of the process | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
can only learn of her identity when they turn 18. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
Until then, Mel's only communication with any potential child | 0:08:30 | 0:08:35 | |
is a brief written message. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
'Part of the forms they've given me | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
'is the opportunity to write a goodwill message | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
'to any babies that are born from my donation | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
'and also to give a bit of a description about myself. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
'It brings it home that this is something that will actually result | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
'in life being created. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
'At the minute now, especially with all the injections' | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
and the actual harvesting itself looming over me, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
it's still hard to think beyond medical procedure. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
But this is, I suppose, a good way of, y'know, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
coming to terms with the fact that, yes, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
there may well be children created from what I'm going through now. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
Egg donation is still relatively uncommon in Northern Ireland. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
But a recent set of recommendations | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
by the HFEA, an organisation which regulates the fertility business, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:34 | |
may mean more donors coming forward. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
The new scheme will allow egg donors to be paid | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
a fixed sum of £750 per donation. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
So, really, the amount has tripled, which is very good news. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:50 | |
It certainly won't solve the problem of the shortage of egg donors, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
but I believe it will greatly help, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
because it will help to raise awareness. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
Any positive step whatsoever will be very welcome | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
and will certainly help in the campaign to recruit egg donors. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:10 | |
As Mel is beginning her treatment, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
these regulations have not yet become law. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
This means she won't be compensated for her egg donation | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
except for expenses. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
Today, she has reached another milestone on her journey | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
and is at the clinic for an important appointment. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
This appointment is for a scan | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
to see whether or not we're ready to start the second drug. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
So I'm a bit nervous, because if they tell me I am ready, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
then that's kind of the beginning of the end, sort of the final step. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:45 | |
So, yeah, I'm nervous and excited. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
This scan is to check | 0:10:51 | 0:10:52 | |
if her ovaries are responding well to the injections | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
and that there are no potential issues. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
However, it soon becomes apparent that there is a problem, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
as the scan shows Mel has cysts on her ovaries. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
You've got a couple of cysts on that one as well. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
So...we probably need to manage those before we can get going. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:17 | |
Not to worry. It's a pain for yourself. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
That's the scan done. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:23 | |
Right... | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
Right, so we've done the scan, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:28 | |
and there are a couple of cysts on your ovaries. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
The lining of the womb is thin, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:32 | |
which indicates they're non-functioning, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
so they're just there. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:35 | |
So we'll take a blood test | 0:11:35 | 0:11:36 | |
to check whether or not the cysts are functioning, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
-and if they're not, that we can go ahead and start the stimulation. -OK. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
All right? | 0:11:43 | 0:11:44 | |
Mel must now wait on blood-test results | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
that will show if the cysts are active. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
Although she does not know who the egg recipients are, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
she is worried that this will be a major setback for them. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
I will be disappointed if it is going to cause a delay, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
because now, today, I've found out | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
that both the recipients are ready to move on to the next stage. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
Maybe I do expect too much from myself, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
especially when it's something completely out of my control, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
but I just don't want to hold them back | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
when I know how long they've probably waited for an egg donor, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
and I don't want to leave them waiting any more than I have to. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
Jude's treatment at the Regional Fertility Centre in Belfast | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
is under way, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:35 | |
and she's become accustomed to the drugs regime involved. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
We went along to our appointment, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
and we got our big package of medication, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
and then we literally went in, saw the nurse, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
and she went through our whole schedule. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
It's a bit scary at the start. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
I mean, I don't like needles as much as the next person. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:59 | |
But it's a really fine needle, and you just dial up your dose. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:04 | |
Mine was generally 150. And I sort of generally went into the tummy. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
And it's not so good if you're running late | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
and you have to do that quickly, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:12 | |
because you want to give yourself a wee bit of time. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
My egg collection is tomorrow morning, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
and then three, four days after that I'll have egg transfer, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
which hopefully, fingers crossed, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
they will be putting fertilised embryos back in. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
I'm looking forward to getting this week over. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
Yeah, this week, and then you're just waiting to take a test. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:42 | |
And then you still can't jump for joy. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
Even if that turns out to be OK, you sort of have to wait and see. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:50 | |
But you know, hopefully this time, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
in, I don't know, a month, a month and a half, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
we'll know. We'll know. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
'I didn't really know what to expect, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:02 | |
'but I think that she's handled it so well. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
'We had a few...weepy days, let's say.' | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
Nothing you can't handle when you consider what she's going through. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
I think she's done really, really well, so I'm really proud of her. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
'I'm nervous about tomorrow. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
'I'm a bit nervous, but I just want it to be over.' | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
If we get to the stage that embryos are fertilised, brilliant, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:28 | |
that embryos transfer OK, brilliant, | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
and then just try and get my head down for two weeks | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
and not think constantly about "Am I pregnant? Am I pregnant?" | 0:14:34 | 0:14:39 | |
So it's exciting, but you just don't want to get your hopes up so much! | 0:14:39 | 0:14:44 | |
At the clinic, Mel's blood-test results | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
have shown that her cysts are active, | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
and she is about to undergo a procedure to drain them. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
This is essential | 0:14:57 | 0:14:58 | |
before Mel starts drugs to stimulate her ovaries to grow more eggs. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:03 | |
If not dealt with, the cysts could obstruct the growth of her eggs. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:11 | |
Mel is under mild sedation but remains awake during the procedure. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
OK, I'm going to scan you now. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
This is the left ovary. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
We can see there is a cyst there, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
so on my three I'm going to give you a jab there, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:30 | |
so it's one, two, three. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
'This one was a cyst aspiration.' | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
The reason why we done that is because it developed cysts. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
So those, they take a space from the ovaries, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:12 | |
and sometimes the ovaries may not respond | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
to the stimulation of the drugs that we give. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
So we felt that it's appropriate to aspirate the cyst | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
and then start the stimulation. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
'In about ten days from today, ten to twelve days from today, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
'she should have enough follicles' | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
to recover some nice eggs from there. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
A successful pregnancy from IVF | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
is a dream come true for women who have fertility issues. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
One, two, three! | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
Eilish from County Tyrone experienced this joy in 2010, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:54 | |
when her twins Michael and Niamh were born. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
But this was only at the end of a long struggle | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
for Eilish and her husband Kieran. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
'We got married in 2003, | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
'and we decided we would wait for about a year.' | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
After a year, nothing was happening, so we went to the doctor | 0:17:11 | 0:17:16 | |
and we were put on an NHS IVF waiting list. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
We had donor treatment in the Royal, | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
our first round of IVF, and it actually was successful. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
But it ended up in a miscarriage, which was devastating after... | 0:17:28 | 0:17:33 | |
Getting that first positive was great, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
but sadly it wasn't meant to be. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
It's Daddy! | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
'After we had the miscarriage, then we looked at all of our options, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:50 | |
'and we got the GCRM in Glasgow, and we called them.' | 0:17:50 | 0:17:55 | |
We decided we would go over there and see how that went. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
'I went to Scotland on my own, never told anybody -' | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
Kieran was the only one who knew - and had the embryos put back. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:10 | |
'And I went back to work, told nobody, | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
'went to work for the whole week.' | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
And I ended up in it being a positive. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
This time, Eilish had a successful pregnancy, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
and in September 2010, her twins arrived. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:27 | |
'Michael came out first.' | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
They brought him over, and I just couldn't believe that he was ours. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
He was just so tiny and snuggly. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
So, they wrapped him up and gave him to Kieran. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:43 | |
And then Niamh came next. And she was just all pink and lovely. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:49 | |
And they brought her over, and, to be honest, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
I couldn't see her for crying. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
Sit down on Mummy's knee. Good boy. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
Who's this? | 0:19:01 | 0:19:02 | |
Michael. Ahhh, give him a kiss! | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
'It's as if they've always been here now. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
'Just definitely they're worth getting up in the morning now | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
'and worth the sleepless nights.' | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
I just feel complete now, just totally complete, that I have... | 0:19:16 | 0:19:21 | |
a boy and a girl and Kieran, and we're just a happy family now. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:26 | |
You know...if we had had one, we would have been more than happy, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
but you probably would have wanted company, for another one. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
But for God to give you two at the one time, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
sure, what more could you ask for? | 0:19:36 | 0:19:37 | |
Mel is on her way to the clinic for another important scan. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:54 | |
Today, she will find out if she has produced enough follicles | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
and can therefore go ahead and donate her eggs. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
After her previous setback, it's an anxious time for Mel. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:06 | |
I'm just worried that it hasn't worked. I don't know, I don't... | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
I think the journey so far, we've had a couple of setbacks, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:15 | |
and I think I'm just expecting the worst now. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
I'm just expecting to go for a scan, for them to say, "There's no eggs," | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
or, "There's not enough eggs to make it worth our while". | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
But I'm just hoping, really, really hoping, that that isn't the case. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
However, once the scan begins, it becomes clear that the news is good. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:45 | |
Now, in total we've got 12, 13, 14, 15, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
16 on that side. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
Plenty. There are! | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
Now, we'd only expect to get mature eggs from the more mature follicles, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
and we're not going to wait for them all to grow, | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
because that's obviously increasing the risk. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
OK! So it all looks fine. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:05 | |
I'll let you get dressed, and then we'll go through the next bit. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
'It went really well today, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:14 | |
'so we're expecting a really nice number of eggs, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
'and on this occasion,' | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
she should have enough eggs for two recipients, which is wonderful news. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
These are the ones that we consider to be mature, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
the ones that are already at 17 and above. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
Three, five, six, seven, eight, which is perfect. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
But you've also got another two, three, four, five | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
which I'd kind of expect to carry on growing, | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
so that's a really nice number of eggs. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
'The recipient herself will have been on drugs | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
'to make sure that her lining of her womb is ready.' | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
The sperm from the husband will be mixed with the egg from the donor | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
so that we can create embryos, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:48 | |
and the embryos will then be put back into the recipient | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
two or three days after the egg collection. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
Brilliant. Well, I can say that we've got two very happy recipients | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
that will be delighted with what you've done, so thank you again. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
-Happiness! -Yes, exactly! It's good. Well done. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
Really, really glad. Everything seems to be going well. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
I'm just really, really hoping it all goes right | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
and we do get two pregnancies out of it. It'd be lovely. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
Every year, thousands of people from the UK | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
travel abroad for fertility treatment, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
a practice commonly referred to as "fertility tourism". | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
Egg and sperm donations | 0:22:38 | 0:22:39 | |
are much more commonplace and readily available | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
in other countries with different regulations. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
In recent years, Spain has become a popular destination | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
for people from Northern Ireland who wish to undergo treatment. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
As a managing director of a fertility clinic, | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
it is important that Jenny Hall is up to date on fertility trends. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:04 | |
Today, she has come to visit a Spanish clinic | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
to see how their regime operates. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
'In Northern Ireland and in the UK as a whole, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
'there is a shortage of donors.' | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
A lot of people need egg donation, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
but there are not a lot of egg donors available. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
'It's very difficult to recruit donors, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
'because it is now possible | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
'that any child born from egg or sperm donation, | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
'when they reach the age of 18,' | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
can get the identifying information about the donor | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
and could possibly trace the donor. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
'In Spain, the law is completely different, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
'and donors remain anonymous.' | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
Therefore there is no possibility | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
of a donor-conceived child tracing their donor in the future. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
Jenny hopes that in the future | 0:23:52 | 0:23:53 | |
she could possibly work in conjunction | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
with some of the clinics based in Europe. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
'The purpose of today, really, was just to explore the options. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
'I wanted to see the facility, meet the team' | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
and just get a general, overall impression of what was possible. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:18 | |
'I was genuinely very impressed by the whole experience. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:26 | |
'And when I talked to them, I heard the answers that I wanted to hear.' | 0:24:26 | 0:24:31 | |
You know, they didn't say anything that gave me | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
any cause for concern at all, so that was all very positive. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
Back in Northern Ireland, it's the day of Mel's egg donation. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
In a few hours, she will know if the treatment has worked | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
and if she has produced enough eggs | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
to help create a baby for someone else. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
I'll be glad when it's over, just because I'm anxious about it. | 0:24:55 | 0:25:01 | |
But no, I'm not particularly... | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
I know it doesn't hurt and I know it doesn't take very long, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
so it'll be fine, I think! | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
Mel is sedated for this procedure, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
which involves the removal of the follicles from her ovaries. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
The fluid content of the follicles is checked in the adjoining lab | 0:25:22 | 0:25:27 | |
and the eggs are then safely stored for fertilisation. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
As the procedure concludes, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
the results from the lab are very positive. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
Has it all worked? | 0:25:58 | 0:25:59 | |
OK, that's it all over, Melanie. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
'It's gone very well, we've got the 12 eggs there.' | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
So the great thing there is | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
from that one donor, we're able to treat two couples | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
who have been longing for donor eggs for a long time. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
So the next stage for us | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
is obviously to add the sperm and eggs together. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
Different ways of doing that. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
We'll check them tomorrow morning | 0:26:19 | 0:26:20 | |
and then we'll phone the two couples. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
'It's all over. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:23 | |
'It was a little bit more painful than the cyst aspiration' | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
but nothing unbearable. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
But it's done now, and I feel normal and ready to go home. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:37 | |
And I guess that's it! | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
A couple of weeks after their first IVF cycle, | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
and Jude and Brian are reflecting on the outcome. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
After the eggs were put back, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
you have a date where you do a pregnancy test, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
and it was about three or four days before that | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
we realised, "OK, it hasn't worked". | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
It was tough. It was tough. Y'know, I was quite emotional. I was sad. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:08 | |
Just at that moment where you realise it hasn't worked, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
it is pretty devastating. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
We are still young. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
We don't have children, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:17 | |
and there's a lot of things that we can still enjoy together | 0:27:17 | 0:27:22 | |
that we wouldn't be able to do. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
God, I mean, we would put having a child in front of anything, really, | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
but, erm, you just have to appreciate what you do have. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
Several weeks after her egg donation, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
Mel has been told the results of the process. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
Out of the two recipients, one of them is pregnant | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
and one of them is not. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
So it was a bit... | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
mixed emotions. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:50 | |
You know, I'm happy for the one that's pregnant | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
and disappointed for the one that isn't. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
Mel must now face the possibility that in 18 years' time | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
she may be contacted by a child born from one of her donated eggs. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:06 | |
I tried to put as much into my letter as possible | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
so that they wouldn't need to look me up - | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
not for my sake but for their sake and their parents' sake, | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
because I imagine it must be a really difficult thing to do, to say... | 0:28:16 | 0:28:21 | |
"I love you, Mum and Dad, but I want to go and find my biological mother". | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
And if I can save them having to do that, then I will. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
But if they still want to look me up, then fine, you know, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
we'll cross that bridge when we come to it! | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
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