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In the UK, an estimated one in seven couples

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suffer fertility problems of some kind.

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Every year, thousands of these will seek help

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in the form of fertility treatment.

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For some, this will be a success,

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resulting in a much longed-for child.

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I suppose it's a different type of stress

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when you're pregnant through IVF

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because you just want it to work out so much

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and it was just the best day of our lives, I would say, to have our son.

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For others, it will be an uphill struggle.

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Society puts all of us under a massive amount of pressure

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and for those people who are struggling to have a family,

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or those people who choose not to have a family,

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I think people need to be more aware of that.

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This is the story of the arduous journey faced by many couples

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and individuals as they strive for their ultimate goal -

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a newborn baby.

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Ali and Andrew have been together for five years,

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and, after experiencing one unsuccessful IVF cycle,

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they are now embarking on the journey for the second time.

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'Well, we're going to meet the consultant that's going to be doing'

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our treatment and to basically make a plan as to where we go from here.

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So, did they do, at any stage,

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a blood test called AMH blood test,

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or anti-Mullerian hormone, do you remember that?

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I don't remember that as such, no.

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OK. Then I think the first thing I would want is your AMH level,

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to know exactly what sort of protocol we're going to use,

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and then the results are usually ready within a week.

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-OK, yep.

-Great.

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By testing Ali's AMH, or anti-Mullerian hormone,

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the clinic will be able to determine the function of Ali's ovaries,

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and how she is likely to respond to fertility treatment.

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'I mean, the blood test that we had done'

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is something that we hadn't heard about before,

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and I think could answer so many questions for us.

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'You want to be excited but yet the disappointment and devastation

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'when it didn't work before

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'and you know there's a chance that might happen again, that's tough.'

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It's hard. It's not easy.

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The appointments are the easy bit.

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It's the bits in between that aren't the easy bits.

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When you've got time to think about things.

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Too much time to think about things! Yes, that's my problem!

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For many couples, the battle with infertility can last several years.

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This was the case for Sharon Davidson

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and her husband Gary who got married in 1997.

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'With infertility, it's a journey.

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You're waiting on tests, you're waiting on test results,

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'you're waiting on treatments - if the treatment doesn't work,'

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you sort of have to pull yourself out of that

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and go through the tests and treatments again,

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so it's a bit of a roller coaster ride, to be honest.

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After five years on this roller coaster ride,

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we went through a treatment cycle - it was a frozen embryo transfer -

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and it was successful.

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We were quite lucky because that was kind of the last throw of the dice.

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We're very blessed to have our son.

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Somebody was looking down on us that day, that's all I can say!

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Really, at that time, I think we just said, "That's enough.

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"Draw the line under fertility treatment."

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We decided to look at alternative routes to have a family.

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We embarked on this journey to go to an orphanage in Russia

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and that wasn't straightforward either.

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In some respects, that was more stressful than the IVF.

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In the spring of 2008, Sharon and Gary were finally able to bring

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their newly adopted daughter home, from Russia to Northern Ireland.

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We are very, very lucky to have two wonderful children and every day that

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goes by, you really pinch yourself to realise how lucky you are.

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PHONE RINGS

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Sharon's experience led her to become involved with

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infertility Network UK

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and she is now the regional organiser for Northern Ireland.

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Do you want to know about the support groups?

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So there's plenty of support and information out there if you want it.

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'I think that there is a bit of a culture in Northern Ireland

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'where people don't ask for help as readily,

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'and I think that that needs to be challenged a wee bit,

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'so that people will feel comfortable to ask for help

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'and to go along to support groups,'

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and they can gain support from each other, really,

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that kind of peer support.

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Ali and Andrew are at the clinic,

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and are anxiously awaiting the results of Ali's blood test.

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'The thought of getting those results today

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'and getting bad news is just sickening me to my stomach.'

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I don't even know how to put into words.

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OK, so from the last time that we met,

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-you had your blood test done on for the anti-Mullerian hormone.

-Mm-hm.

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So we've got the reports back on that and that seems absolutely fine.

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They basically say that that's normal for your age,

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so the implication of this is that, A, it's highly unlikely that

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if we put you onto IVF hormonal medications,

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you would not produce eggs.

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'If I'm completely honest, I should be ecstatic because my results worked

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'to my favour and everything seems to be moving along, but I'm nervous.

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'I am nervous,'

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and I've three weeks now to get my head around,

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that when I start the treatment,

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it's in a positive frame of mind, so, quite nerve-racking.

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-And then we'll take it from there.

-OK.

-Good luck. Hope it works for you.

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-Thank you.

-Thank you.

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'If it doesn't work eventually, then we deal with it afterwards'

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'but in the short term,'

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we have to think that it will work and that we'll get our twins.

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After marrying in 2009,

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Emma and Ben moved from London to Emma's hometown of Belfast.

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One of the reasons we moved back to Belfast was

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cos we'd like to bring up a family

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and we didn't think we could really do it in London,

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so we've been trying pretty much as soon as we got back.

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'We had a minor success about this time last year.'

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Found out I was pregnant but then miscarried at the start of January.

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After recovering from the miscarriage,

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Emma and Ben decided to seek medical help with their efforts to conceive.

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'We've had our tests,

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'so Ben's had his sperm tested and I've had my blood tested.

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'For the woman, they just test for your hormone levels'

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and mine were fine. The only one that was a bit low was oestrogen,

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but not enough to be too worried.

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'My sperm tests weren't 100%. There were two areas.

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'One of them, I think, was motility,

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'which is kind of the amount of movement of the sperm,'

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and then morphology was actually just below the normal range,

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which suggests that there's a higher number of ones with two heads,

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and double tails and, you know, freak sperm, basically.

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-Monster sperm!

-Yeah.

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Which I thought was quite funny,

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but then I should probably be a bit more serious about it.

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Emma and Ben are now waiting to be called for treatment on the NHS,

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but in the meantime they are trying to conceive naturally.

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I've been keeping track of my cycles and everything, just in case,

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and we've been very good, and having regular sex.

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'And I haven't really thought about

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if it does or doesn't happen on this treatment.

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I don't want to play too many scenarios in the future in my head.

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No, we can't really afford to think about

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-the other options at the moment, so one day at a time.

-Yeah, exactly.

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At home, Ali has begun administering her own injections,

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with the help of her husband Andrew.

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I have to be honest. I don't...

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SHE LAUGHS

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I don't fill them up or anything.

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I tried one day and completely freaked out

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because I couldn't work out what I was doing.

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Andrew's quite good at it. It's quite fiddly.

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These injections are designed to allow Ali's cycle to be artificially

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controlled and to stimulate her ovaries to produce more eggs.

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Many of Ali's friends and family are pregnant,

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or already have children,

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a situation which can be difficult to cope with.

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I currently have a sister-in-law and two very good friends pregnant.

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My cousin just had a baby this morning,

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and a very good friend of mine's daughter is seven weeks old,

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and then you've other people who you know want children,

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or have one already, and are starting to try again for a second,

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or things like that, so...

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You know, everybody's different, mind you.

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I'll just take one if I can get it!

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'I can't pinpoint a reason.

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'I just know that the last few days for me have been difficult,

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'but for Andrew especially when I go into my little downtimes,

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'that I can't really explain to him.'

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You know, when a woman wants to be a mother,

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it's quite hard to explain the feeling when you can't.

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In an effort to gain more insight into the way Ali is feeling,

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Andrew is accompanying her to a counselling session.

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'We're going tonight to a counselling lady

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'that's being provided by the IVF clinic.'

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I think it's important for me to go to the counselling so that

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I can understand, as we go through this process,

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exactly how she's feeling.

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'I have had a rough couple of days the last couple of days,

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'just very emotional,'

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and almost angry feelings,

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towards having to do this again, and I've struggled to deal with that

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and, unfortunately, Andrew's borne the brunt of that.

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I've tried to train myself to ignore the bad bits

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and just focus on the positive.

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I don't want to look at this process as there being a possibility

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of negative, whereas Ali obviously has much more of that

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roller coaster emotional ride, and I'm blocking that part completely,

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and trying to focus on the positive, and look at that as our outcome.

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Maybe I don't realise that Ali's getting upset

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and then her way of dealing with that is...

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I wouldn't go so far as to say pick a fight, but something...

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I'm sitting upset and I feel to myself,

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"Why hasn't he come looking for me? He should know I'm upset,"

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and then, eventually, I'll come down the stairs

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and Andrew will talk to me like nothing's happened,

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and I'll feel quite angry that perhaps he hasn't...

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..noticed and, because of that, will lash out.

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So maybe there's some other way of showing that you

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would like Andrew to acknowledge

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and step into your space.

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Going through treatment - it's not the normal kind of situation and,

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therefore, maybe it requires slightly different ways of doing things.

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A hand gesture, maybe there's something to move, physically,

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from one place to the other,

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to let the other person know, "Yes, I need something different here."

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-I quite like that idea, actually.

-Moving something?

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Yeah, cos it's something that you moved or

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something physical that you did that I could understand and go,

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"OK, I need to take some time out for,"

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even if it's only 15 or 20 minutes or half an hour,

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and to put aside what I'm doing

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and come back to it again at a later time.

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Maybe that is a good idea.

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You need to do something that is different and obvious,

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so that you can actually come together.

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I think that's probably something that's workable

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and not even just in the IVF.

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I think probably going forward,

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cos we haven't had anything before that we would have

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necessarily done and because you are so emotional, and you get...

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I'm not that emotional! I cry at movies and X Factor, but that's OK.

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Most birds do.

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SHE CHUCKLES

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It's what we do!

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And our hearts aren't made of stone.

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-OK.

-OK.

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Emma and Ben have been for an initial consultation

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at the Regional Fertility Centre, but before any treatment starts,

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the doctor has advised them to keep trying to conceive naturally.

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The fact that we've already been pregnant briefly before,

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and that I've had positive ovulation tests, is a really good sign,

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and he kind of even said himself, "You know, the best outcome for us

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"would be that you wouldn't even have to have that much intervention."

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So, we're crossing our fingers and uncrossing our legs!

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Emma is a photographer

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and is currently working towards a master's degree.

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Well, for my master's, I've begun a project about

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women's access to reproductive rights in Northern Ireland.

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I think it makes me feel quite strongly.

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For instance, when I found out that in Northern Ireland,

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we only get one cycle of fertility,

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it's somebody else forcing their moral or other opinions

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onto a woman legally.

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I feel very strongly that the moral or, I don't know,

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financial opinions of an MOA shouldn't affect at all

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whether a woman wants to have a child or not.

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Five weeks after her drugs regime began,

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Ali is at the clinic for her egg collection.

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Although she has been regularly scanned, it is not yet known

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how many eggs she will produce.

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Once the anaesthetist gives you the drugs to make you feel dizzy,

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I'm going to locate the ovary, give a single jab

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and start draining the fluid from the follicles.

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Try not to be nervous, try to listen to my instructions in theatre, OK,

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and everything will go smoothly, OK?

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Although she remains awake, Ali is sedated for the procedure,

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which involves draining the fluid from the follicles in her ovaries.

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That is the follicle,

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so the fluid goes on that tube and that follicle is drained slowly.

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The fluid is then taken to the adjoining lab where

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it is examined under a microscope to check for the presence of eggs.

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As the procedure concludes, the result is a positive one for Ali.

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Everything went smoothly, straightforward,

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and we hit nine eggs, which is slightly above the average.

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On average, we expect eight eggs per patient so we are pleased with that.

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A few hours later, Ali and Andrew meet embryologist Richard,

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who wants to discuss whether they are treated with conventional IVF

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or ICSI, which involves injecting an individual egg with a single sperm.

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The one issue this morning is when I first looked at the sperm sample,

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it was worse than your previous, OK.

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I think in the past, you'd had about 70% motile in your initial.

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Today, it was about 20, 30, so that was a bit of a concern initially.

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I've done the preparation now and that's prepared much better, OK,

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so the motile percentage is about 55% now.

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So there's plenty of sperm swimming there.

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The initial analysis raised a few question marks for me,

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as to whether we should be doing ICSI.

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The other options are we could always do a split,

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where we do half IVF, half ICSI, but I think the fact you've

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had this IVF before, I think we should stick to IVF.

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Wherever possible,

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we use the least invasive technique which is conventional IVF.

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-Are you all right?

-Yeah, I just...

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-The whole sperm thing just kind of threw me a little bit.

-Oh, sorry.

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I just... I wanted to put you in the picture, obviously,

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of what's going on there.

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I think there's plenty of sperm there, it's just more the percent.

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The question initially was, was there enough there,

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or enough to do conventional IVF?

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That's why we wanted to check, so we've just got to wait to see

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tomorrow how many fertilise and we'll go from there.

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-OK? I'm sorry to upset you today.

-No, no, no.

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I just... I think it just threw me a little bit.

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I'll call tomorrow to tell you how things have gone on

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and we'll go from there. Best of luck. All right? Good to meet you.

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-Thanks.

-Thank you.

-Thanks.

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Yeah, I think you're always hoping that you're going to hear that

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everything's perfect and it's clearly not perfect today, but...

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..I think at the end of that, we probably got from that

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that he was happy enough to proceed.

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I don't know, it's just one of those things.

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You spend so long focusing on your eggs, I think that you

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forget that there's another side to it, you know, and... I don't know.

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You expect everything to be normal and perfect,

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as it has been all along,

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and when it's not, it kind of throws you a little bit.

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The next 24 hours are going to be pretty tough.

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But...we just have to wait and see.

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Fertility problems can put a huge strain on a relationship,

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and Ben and his wife Emma are no exception to this.

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'We have a very strong relationship

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'but the whole process has put some pressure on us,

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'whether we'd like to admit it or not.

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'It gets really hard.'

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I mean, we felt a lot of pressure

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and have kind of fallen out with each other unnecessarily.

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I don't think I would happen if...

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Well, put it this way - if Emma was pregnant,

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we'd have something to focus on that is very real, and very big,

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and scary and stressful, but at the same time,

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this is our challenge together and it's, like, we're having a family!

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After reading all the advice on the pregnancy websites,

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it suggests you have sex every other day and, after a few months of that,

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it started to get really difficult for us.

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I felt I was actually struggling to perform and then, thankfully,

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the two of us sat down and talked about it, realised what was going on -

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it was just the pressure of the situation -

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and did exactly what the pregnancy websites advise you to do,

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which is just enjoy it!

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We have busy lives as it is.

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We both do freelance work and we would obviously try

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and squeeze in our sex lives into that anyway,

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but when you realise that you have to do it on that particular day,

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it actually suddenly changes the whole kind of pressure you're under.

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It's quite... It's quite weird, actually,

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experiencing it for the first time

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and trying to fit that into our lives.

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Back at the clinic, a decision has been made to proceed with

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conventional IVF for Ali and Andrew.

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Today, embryologist Steve is carrying out the process.

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Four eggs, plus those five, so we've got nine eggs.

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We have the sperm prepared in the incubator

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and we're going to inseminate a small fraction of that

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directly into the eggs and that will give us

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a concentration of around about 200,000 sperm per insemination.

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And...inseminate around the eggs.

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This process involves the mixing of sperm and eggs in a Petri dish.

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Hopefully, the strongest sperm will enter an egg

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and fertilisation will occur.

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So that's the egg and the sperm...

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..are swimming around the egg there.

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All nine of Ali's eggs are treated in this way

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before being left to incubate.

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So we'll leave those to incubate overnight

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and then we'll check them for fertilisation in the morning.

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The following morning, Ali and Andrew are anxiously awaiting

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news from the clinic of how many eggs have fertilised.

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PHONE RINGS

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Hello?

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Yes, yes.

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Hi, there.

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OK, that's great. That's a big relief.

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OK, that's great. Thank you very much. Bye.

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All nine fertilised.

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HE CHUCKLES

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So they'll go back either Thursday or Saturday, definitely not tomorrow.

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That's really good news. Oh, my God, I feel sick.

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Oh, your wee swimmers were really strong!

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HE LAUGHS

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Ah!

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-Brilliant.

-Such a relief.

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SHE EXHALES LOUDLY

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Oh, bless them, we've got nine little embies.

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THEY CHUCKLE

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-Yeah, that's good.

-At least I'm not for the high jump.

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I was concerned if they didn't,

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if they didn't get fertilised today, I'd be for the high jump.

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I know people who have broken up after ongoing efforts, but...

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..thankfully for us, and hopefully for us,

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this is it, we're back on track and...

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..it's our time.

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Again.

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Four days have passed

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and the moment has finally arrived for Ali and Andrew.

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Today, the embryos will be placed back into Ali's uterus.

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This is the biggest day of my life to date.

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Apart from our wedding day.

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THEY CHUCKLE Well.

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At least I got to wear a pretty dress that day!

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Ali has six embryos which have reached an advanced stage.

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Today, she will have two embryos transferred back into her uterus.

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The other four will be frozen for use in the future.

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We are going to be putting back two blastocysts.

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They've got to blastocyst stage,

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which means that the embryos are dividing well.

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Before the procedure begins, Ali is shown one of the embryos in the lab.

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-Now that will develop into the baby.

-OK.

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That's a lovely grade.

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So when that develops into the baby, does this go away, the outer bit?

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Well, these are all cell lines,

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-so that they'll all proliferate and go their own separate way.

-OK.

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-All right?

-Yeah.

-I'll get those ready for you.

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I had no idea what they did.

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This painless procedure involves

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placing the embryos into a catheter for transfer into Ali's uterus.

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The catheter is then checked to ensure the transfer is complete.

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They're fine.

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OK. That's that over, then.

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'She's had a strong group of embryos from the beginning

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'and she's got more than average number of blastocysts

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'from that group of embryos,'

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so, you know, I'm very hopeful.

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This is the late-stage embryo,

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so implantation, if it's going to occur,

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is going to occur in the next 24 to 48 hours, right?

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If that does, your chances of getting pregnant are very good,

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because we've selected the embryos which are able to get that far.

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-OK, thank you very much.

-All right. So all the best, all the best.

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-Thank you.

-Thanks, Steve.

-Take care.

-Thank you.

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It's as good as it could be, so I think...

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I think we're in as good a position as we can be and...

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..the next 48 hours are restful.

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From what he said, that's just about as good as it gets, yeah.

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Emma and Ben are no longer trying for a baby.

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Since we spoke last, Ben and I aren't together any more,

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so obviously that means we're not trying for a baby any more.

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Yeah, so months later,

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and I've...sort of stabilised quite a bit

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and am mostly thinking about the future,

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and trying to make the most of the situation,

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not feeling too regretful or anything like that.

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If I didn't have children in my life ever,

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that would just be the way things were,

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but having got close to that, it sort of...

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It's very much on my mind, I think, as something that's there,

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and I have to... Well, we'll see, we'll see who comes along.

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If I find the right kind of person.

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Otherwise, we'll just go with what's going, really.

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I still want children but I don't want children now,

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and I don't think, um...

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Yeah, I don't think I'm in the right kind of place mentally,

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or in terms of work and everything.

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Erm, but, yeah, I would like to look after children,

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or have my own children at some point in the future.

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Two weeks after her embryo transfer, Ali's pregnancy test was negative.

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Unfortunately, we are sitting here today which means

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that your treatment didn't work, so...

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It is taking time, but they are beginning

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to come to terms with the outcome.

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'Emotions are back intact as such,'

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but it's been a rocky road since it didn't work.

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In that moment, and at that time, it's a loss. It's grief.

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It's traumatic. Very, very traumatic.

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'Because we found ourselves in the situation where'

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we had the bonus of extra embryos that we didn't expect to have,

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that's given us an opportunity to have another go,

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in the springtime, I think.

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