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In the UK, an estimated one in seven couples

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suffer fertility problems of some kind.

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Every year, thousands of these will seek help

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in the form of fertility treatment.

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For some, this will be a success,

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resulting in a much longed-for child.

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It's as real as it'll ever be and fingers crossed, everything goes OK.

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For others, it will be an uphill struggle.

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At the heart of all this is our desire to become a family

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because we have so much to give.

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This is the story of the arduous journey faced by many couples

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and individuals as they strive for their ultimate goal, a newborn baby.

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Journalist Jilly works for a well-known national newspaper

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and has been married to Peter for five years.

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Now in their efforts to start a family, Jilly and Peter

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are hoping to undergo fertility treatment and are having

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an initial consultation to investigate the options.

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-Are you allergic to anything at all?

-No.

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Peter and I met on a blind date.

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I think I just knew, when we left, that Peter had a great catch.

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-I thought he's a very lucky man.

-The feeling was mutual, of course.

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-How long have you guys been together?

-Nearly five years.

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Jilly has been pregnant before

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but unfortunately, it did not last the full term.

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OK, that's good.

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Peter was off playing football on the Thursday night,

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I came home and I didn't feel well.

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Then I had started to miscarry.

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We knew then there was no chance of the baby surviving

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and I think I fell into a big tunnel of emotion and I just went...

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It was just really, really hard.

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-And you've never been pregnant?

-Yes, we have. We lost the baby.

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-OK, when was that?

-November 2009.

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I think after we lost our baby, our first baby,

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the idea of trying for another child just filled me with absolute dread.

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That's something that, if we were given the chance to become parents,

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I'm going to have to get my head around the idea that you've got

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eight or nine months, hopefully, to deal with this.

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-Medically, any problems?

-Nothing.

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Apart from carrying extra weight, I suppose.

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As part of this consultation,

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all patients have their BMI or body mass index measured.

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Jilly has to get hers below a certain level before

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she can start her treatment.

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You may or may not be aware that the ideal BMI is less than 30 in terms of

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success rates, in terms of response to the ovulation induction drugs,

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in terms of sedation risks for all the procedures.

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The top level for Origin is 33.

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My BMI is too high for them.

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They prefer it to be at a certain level to have the IVF drugs.

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Whatever the drug it is they give you,

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it kind of seeks out fat molecules

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and it's got a lot of work to do with me.

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That's what I've got to do.

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As women get older, their chances of achieving pregnancy decrease

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as their egg production rapidly diminishes.

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However, egg freezing has now become an option for women

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who may want to store their eggs for possible use in the future.

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Once we've got the eggs frozen, vitrified,

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they can remain in storage for, theoretically, indefinitely.

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There are legal constraints as to how long we can keep them

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but biologically,

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they can be safely stored in liquid nitrogen indefinitely.

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Barbara is in her late thirties and is currently single.

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She has decided to investigate the possibility

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of having her eggs frozen and stored so that if she decides

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to have children in the future,

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she has a better chance of becoming pregnant.

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I've made the decision now to look at possibly freezing

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some of my eggs for future.

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I'd like to have the option in the future still to be able

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to have a family with somebody.

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At least then I know I've done something about it,

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something that is going to be of importance to me in the future.

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My body is still how I felt when I was in my 20s,

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so, I don't feel any different.

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It's just a case, I'm a little bit older now.

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I just need to find out a little bit more.

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Today, Barbara is meeting Jenny Hall,

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managing director of Origin Fertility Care,

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to discuss the procedure.

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OK, what we try to do with drug stimulation,

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is we would use hormone drugs to help you to produce more eggs

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than you would normally produce,

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then use a process called vitrification to freeze the eggs.

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I do think it's a good idea because Barbara is in her late 30s.

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If all the other parameters are OK, then she should do that

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because that is the only other choice she has at the minute.

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Because you are a little bit older

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and your ovaries may not respond

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to the drug stimulation, we may not be able to collect enough eggs.

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What we would propose to do in the first instance, is do a blood test.

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That blood test...

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I think the urgency is to do it as soon as possible

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because of my age, so that the eggs are going to be the age I am now,

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not the age next year and the year after.

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I'm quite happy to proceed if the blood tests do come back

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and they seem to be well.

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Yes, I'll be happy to go ahead.

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26-year-old Angela has been married to Mark since 2006,

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but their efforts to have a child have been hampered

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by fertility problems.

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When I was 18, my monthly periods stopped altogether,

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so I went to my GP.

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From there, they found out I had polycystic ovaries

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and they decided to put me through fertility.

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I had treatment but I over-stimulated which meant all our embryos

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had to be frozen.

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Four months down the line after that, we got pregnant

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but then I had a miscarriage after three or four weeks.

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Now, Angela wants to use her remaining frozen embryos

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in a second cycle of IVF treatment.

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I wasn't ready to give up.

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I had still some embryos frozen there, so I decided to go ahead

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and use the rest of them up and keep trying.

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Angela has a total of 11 frozen embryos,

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but during the thaw process, not everything has gone to plan.

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They thawed out six embryos but, unfortunately,

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four didn't survive.

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Two did survive but the didn't divide

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so they had to thaw the remaining five out.

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Out of the five, two were suitable for transfer,

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which is happening today.

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It's basically our last hope because that is all our eggs used up now.

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Next time round, hopefully there is not a next time round

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but if there is, it would be another fresh cycle for us.

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OK, ready?

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The embryos are prepared in the adjoining lab

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and are then placed in a catheter for transfer into Angela's uterus.

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..then pass the catheter through.

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Thank you.

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OK, they're going in now. Good luck.

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-OK.

-Thank you.

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This is the worst bit for them.

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It's about waiting now two weeks to find out if the test is positive

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and there isn't anything you can do at this time.

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Two weeks is a long time,

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so it is one of the worst parts of the cycle, really.

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Whether it's a fresh transfer or a frozen,

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you still have to wait that two weeks.

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There is no easy way around it.

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It just takes two weeks and then that is it.

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We look forward to hearing from you.

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-Just give us a wee shout if you have any queries.

-Thank you.

-OK.

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Determined to lose weight so that she can begin

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her fertility treatment,

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Jilly has embarked on a new healthy lifestyle including

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weekly Tai Chi sessions.

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I don't think we're going to get another chance at this.

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It's an expensive process for anybody to go through and at my age,

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I need to be realistic that this is our chance.

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We are throwing everything into this chance, losing weight,

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having good vibes from people, having prayer from people,

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taking all the help we can get.

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Jilly has also opted for an alternative therapy,

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known as Maya massage, which she hopes will complement

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her fertility treatment.

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Nice, light movements.

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Maya massage is best performed three months before IVF.

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We want to start working on a body, we want to start preparing

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the body for IVF and what it has to go through.

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This movement here is both very relaxing....

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Our chances are low but at the same time,

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at least we have a chance and we're doing something positive.

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We're actually doing something active and positive about it.

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If things worked out for us within 11 months, we could be,

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not nursing basset hounds, we could be nursing a child.

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That is the possibility. We could also just been nursing basset hounds.

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Elaine and Andrew have been married for six years

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but their efforts to have a child have proven difficult.

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I think we were trying for about a year and a half

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before we both agreed, we needed to look into this,

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we should see if there's a problem and why it's not happening.

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Then we discovered there was a private clinic in Belfast.

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We booked an appointment with them and then in January,

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started the first cycle of treatment.

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But in the final stages of Elaine's treatment, a problem arose.

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There was a risk of me having Ovarian Hyperstimulation Syndrome.

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The clinic weren't keen to continue with my treatment at that stage,

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they weren't willing to take that risk.

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So, they froze all my eggs.

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We were called up again to start the treatment

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and it was a much shorter, much easier cycle because the eggs

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were already there and it was just a matter of thawing those.

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I tested positive on the morning.

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About four o'clock in the morning I got up and tested positive.

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Eventually went to get a blood test before I could totally

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convince myself this was real and this was happening.

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Then, we went for a six-week scan which confirmed that

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the pregnancy was viable.

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In a few months' time, Elaine is due to give birth

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to the first baby to be conceived using a frozen egg in Ireland.

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Today, Elaine is having her 24-week scan

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and it is her first scan using 4D technology.

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To see the four dimensional and to see the face

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and to see life inside of me, it was absolutely amazing.

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That's amazing.

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It was the first time I had seen a 4D scan in my life and it just

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blew me away just to see how real everything was and the detail.

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We are just so positive and happy now that we know that

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we're going to have a baby very shortly and will be a proper family.

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We feel now we can go out and start planning the nursery

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and doing all the things we want to do,

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up until now, we've been thinking about and dreaming about.

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Wondering would it ever happen, I think it's as real

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as it will ever be and fingers crossed, everything goes OK.

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Barbara is in her late thirties and is hoping to freeze her eggs

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for possible use in the future.

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Today, she has returned to the clinic

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to get the results of an important blood test.

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I'm a bit apprehensive, obviously.

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Tried not to think about it too much but today, we could ultimately

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find out if we can proceed with the treatment really.

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The doctor will tell me the blood results today.

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It could come back good, it could come back negative,

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so, we'll just have to wait and see.

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The blood test was taken to measure Barbara's AMH

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or Anti-Mullarian Hormone level.

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This hormone is a good indicator of the function

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of Barbara's ovaries and how she is likely to respond

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to fertility treatment.

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Now, I have your AMH here,

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which came back as 1.92.

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This is a low AMH, and that is compatible with your age.

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-Yeah.

-Right? And normally we expect a low ovarian response.

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-Therefore, we need to use the maximum dose, OK?

-A-ha.

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What happens is we need, of course, to do the cycle and see how the

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ovaries will respond, because the AMH is only at best, it's not 100% accurate.

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-The actual reality is when you start the stimulation.

-Yeah.

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-OK? And see what happens with that.

-OK.

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Well, the doctor gave me the news of the Anti-Mullerian hormone.

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As expected, it was going to be low.

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Just due to my age, anyway.

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But this is inconclusive, so, you know,

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we can still go away with doing the treatment,

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still, you know, do the egg production.

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While at the clinic, Barbara is scanned to check

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how many follicles she produces in a normal monthly cycle.

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This is your uterus there.

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Each follicle will usually contain one egg.

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So, the more follicles she has,

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this higher her chances of producing more eggs.

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The follicle there is a small size,

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but probably that is what you would expect with a low AMH.

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So, it may take a few more days for the left ovary to develop

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and ovulate from there.

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Yeah. You know, I am still quite positive.

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At least there was some there, and up my mind at ease.

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I think still, you know,

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work on it and at least then I have had a go, at least I have tried,

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rather than just giving up at the first hurdle.

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So, no, I'm OK about it actually.

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Jilly has managed to reach her target weight to enable her

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to begin her fertility treatment.

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Those are all the things that you have to be aware of.

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Today, she is at the clinic for a scan, to see if her treatment

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is working and to check if her ovaries are producing follicles.

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What we're looking at today is just to see the response you've had

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to the stimulation. There is no set timetable

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that you need to reach, we'll just have a look at your response

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and plan it from there.

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So, you've got the ovaries, the whole area

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and then these black areas here, those are your follicles.

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I had my eight-day scan and it revealed that I have...

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the drugs are working.

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There are four main follicles which are really good size.

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And I think three or four smaller ones,

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which may or may not get to the optimum size.

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I think they need it 17 mm.

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That's a nice response. We've got a look at the chart here.

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You've got four main follicles that are developing.

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These are your leading follicles,

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so these are the ones we're interested in.

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Well, I am delighted,

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because I was really worried about coming in today.

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I just thought... We were driving down the road, I thought,

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I could be driving out of here and going back to get

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the rest of those drugs and that could be the end of it all.

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Well, that looks great. We like at least three, so well done.

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Well, that's brilliant. I am so relieved. I really am.

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No, I know.

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Yeah, I'm upbeat and I'm happy.

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I'm delighted I don't have to go down the road in tears and snotters.

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But anyway, you know, we still have to take this in a...

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just take it sensibly and not be getting too OTT about it.

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But I am...I have to say, I am thrilled,

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I am absolutely thrilled that we got this far.

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After the transfer of her embryos, all Angela and her husband Mark

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can do is wait,

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as she can only take a pregnancy test two weeks after the procedure.

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This week has been quite good, you know, I've been busy.

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I'm just worrying a wee bit about next week.

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I'm sure the days will drag,

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but I'll just have to keep myself busy and occupied.

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I just feel like everything will be fine, you know,

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the outcome will be fine.

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It will just make my family complete,

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so that's it, that's what you want.

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A family to settle down with kids, wife, that's it.

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There's nothing else we want.

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We don't want big things in life, you know, just simple,

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simple things in life to make you happy.

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That's all we want.

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At the clinic, it's an important day for Barbara,

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as she is being scanned to see

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if her ovaries have responded to the drugs she has been taking.

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The scan is to check for follicles which may contain eggs

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that Barbara could freeze for use in the future.

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This is your ovary on the left-hand side.

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At the moment, there is no...response on that side.

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-Nothing?

-No.

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This is your ovary on the right-hand side.

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-And you've got one follicle.

-Yeah.

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That's developing, which equates to, we'd expect, one egg.

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Which is, you know, disappointing, but when we look at that AMH level

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in your ovarian reserve,

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-it's one of the possibilities that we are facing.

-Yeah.

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I mean, you can see your ovary very clearly there and there is no...

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none of the little black blobs that we would hope to see.

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So, I'm sorry, that's a bit disappointing.

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But I will take this out, we'll let you get dressed

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and then we'll have a chat.

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Unfortunately, things have not gone very well.

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She told me there is only one follicle there.

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Which may or may not have an egg,

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we never know until the time of the egg collection.

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-Yeah.

-Because we can't see that on the screen.

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'I feel disappointed knowing that I'm not going to go forward

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'and have the egg collection.

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'So, that little bit of'

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peace of mind has been taken away again.

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So, very disappointing.

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If there were more follicles, even if there were three or four

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follicles, I would say yes, it's worth going ahead.

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-Because probably that is what we will get, two or three eggs.

-Yeah.

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And it will be a good asset.

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But going ahead with only one follicle,

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which then we have to strip it down and see if it's mature,

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I don't think really it's worth doing it.

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-Just for one, yeah, I know.

-Just for one.

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'I don't think the possibilities are there for me to do it again

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'because they need eight to ten

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'or preferably 12, so...'

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I won't be, obviously, pursuing that,

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because I would have to do quite a few cycles to actually retrieve

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that many eggs, eight to 12.

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-OK?

-Thank you very much.

-All right then, nice to see you.

-Thank you.

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You know, I'd stress to any friend to try it

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and don't leave it too long, cos, you know,

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look at what has happened with me.

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I've left it a long time and I wish I had done it earlier.

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Today is a big day for Jilly,

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as it's finally time for her egg collection.

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Embryologist Richard is preparing for the procedure.

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So, I'm just making sure that everything is up to temperature.

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These are the dishes we are going to collect the...

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collect the eggs in.

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We're just going to keep these up.

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The first tube, you can see the yellow follicular fluid

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and the pink flesh medium.

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The fluid is taken from the follicles in Jilly's ovaries

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and then checked for the presence of an egg.

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As Richard checks each fluid sample,

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he calls out the result to the doctor in the theatre.

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Egg number two.

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Egg number three.

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Great, so four big follicles, four eggs, fantastic. That's really good.

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They will be stripped in this dish

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and then put into a pre-ICSI dish to be injected later.

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Later that afternoon,

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Richard begins the treatments of Jilly's eggs with a process

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known as ICSI or Intracytoplasmic Sperm Injection.

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This process involves the selection of individual sperm for direct

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injection into each of Jilly's eggs.

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So then we are going to take this sperm in tail first.

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Pick out one of the eggs.

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And we're just going to give it a little prod just to make sure

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we are in the right place.

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And then we are going to go in.

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Suck backwards.

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And then back in, so the sperm is entering the egg now.

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And then back out.

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So, that went very smoothly.

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Good break of the cytoplasm in the egg.

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So second sperm.

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This process is then repeated on Jilly's three remaining eggs

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before all four are incubated overnight.

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OK, this is the post-ICSI dash.

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I am just going to remove the eggs from here into the dish for overnight culture.

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OK.

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No problems with the eggs, no problems with injecting them.

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The cytoplasm broke very easily, the sperm went in very easily,

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so really that is all we can do.

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And just wait till tomorrow morning.

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It's been over six weeks since her embryo transfer and Angela

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and her husband Mark are coming to terms with the negative result.

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When it fails, you just wonder why it hasn't worked and you do

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a lot of research about different avenues of what can happen next

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and you just have to keep going.

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You see people playing with their son or daughter

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going down to town or anything, it will just pop in your mind.

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Like Sunday there, for instance, I took my niece to swimming

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and it was like a family session, you know,

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all the families there with their kids and all.

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That's...just wee situations like that makes it jump

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into your mind and you think,

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"Oh, I hope I can do this one day with my child."

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After her efforts to freeze her eggs failed,

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Barbara is now getting on with life and remaining optimistic.

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I had to kind of say, don't be too hard on myself,

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at least I've had to try.

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Yes, it wasn't successful,

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but I probably would have still been curious.

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If I don't ever have my own children, I would adopt or perhaps even foster.

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I don't think my life is going to be empty as such in that way.

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Despite an initial successful implantation,

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Jilly's treatment was ultimately unsuccessful.

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We understand implantation took place with two,

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so we would've basically been having a twin pregnancy.

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And then we lost... we lost the pregnancy, basically.

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So, it was just... It has been a terrible, really awful time.

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Now, after undergoing extensive tests,

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Jilly has a possible explanation for her fertility problems,

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which provide her with hope for the future.

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There is a system that we all have called natural killer cells

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and they are the things meant to prevent us from getting cancer.

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And I have elevated levels of those.

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So, while you are meant to have under 15%

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to keep your body on the level,

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mine are in the 20s, 20%.

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So, what they do is they recognise

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any new body,

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any new cell that comes into your body

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as a foreign object and they go in and they fight it

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and they get rid of it.

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So, that has given us an explanation for what we have been through.

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We know I have a situation where we are going to go through,

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hopefully, the IVF system again,

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whether it is ICSI or whatever way they do it,

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so I feel very hopeful.

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I've always felt we'd have a little girl.

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I still feel we're going to have a little girl

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and while there is hope,

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there is every chance, I suppose.

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But I just feel we've got a better chance now.

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