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In the UK, an estimated one in seven couples | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
suffer fertility problems of some kind. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
Every year, thousands of these will seek help | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
in the form of fertility treatment. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
For some, this will be a success, | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
resulting in a much longed-for child. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
It's as real as it'll ever be and fingers crossed, everything goes OK. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
For others, it will be an uphill struggle. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
At the heart of all this is our desire to become a family | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
because we have so much to give. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
This is the story of the arduous journey faced by many couples | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
and individuals as they strive for their ultimate goal, a newborn baby. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:48 | |
Journalist Jilly works for a well-known national newspaper | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
and has been married to Peter for five years. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
Now in their efforts to start a family, Jilly and Peter | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
are hoping to undergo fertility treatment and are having | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
an initial consultation to investigate the options. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
-Are you allergic to anything at all? -No. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
Peter and I met on a blind date. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
I think I just knew, when we left, that Peter had a great catch. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
-I thought he's a very lucky man. -The feeling was mutual, of course. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
-How long have you guys been together? -Nearly five years. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
Jilly has been pregnant before | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
but unfortunately, it did not last the full term. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
OK, that's good. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:45 | |
Peter was off playing football on the Thursday night, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
I came home and I didn't feel well. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
Then I had started to miscarry. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
We knew then there was no chance of the baby surviving | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
and I think I fell into a big tunnel of emotion and I just went... | 0:01:55 | 0:02:02 | |
It was just really, really hard. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
-And you've never been pregnant? -Yes, we have. We lost the baby. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:10 | |
-OK, when was that? -November 2009. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
I think after we lost our baby, our first baby, | 0:02:14 | 0:02:20 | |
the idea of trying for another child just filled me with absolute dread. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
That's something that, if we were given the chance to become parents, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
I'm going to have to get my head around the idea that you've got | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
eight or nine months, hopefully, to deal with this. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
-Medically, any problems? -Nothing. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
Apart from carrying extra weight, I suppose. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
As part of this consultation, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
all patients have their BMI or body mass index measured. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
Jilly has to get hers below a certain level before | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
she can start her treatment. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:54 | |
You may or may not be aware that the ideal BMI is less than 30 in terms of | 0:02:54 | 0:03:00 | |
success rates, in terms of response to the ovulation induction drugs, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:05 | |
in terms of sedation risks for all the procedures. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
The top level for Origin is 33. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
My BMI is too high for them. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
They prefer it to be at a certain level to have the IVF drugs. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:21 | |
Whatever the drug it is they give you, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
it kind of seeks out fat molecules | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
and it's got a lot of work to do with me. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
That's what I've got to do. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
As women get older, their chances of achieving pregnancy decrease | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
as their egg production rapidly diminishes. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
However, egg freezing has now become an option for women | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
who may want to store their eggs for possible use in the future. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
Once we've got the eggs frozen, vitrified, | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
they can remain in storage for, theoretically, indefinitely. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:07 | |
There are legal constraints as to how long we can keep them | 0:04:07 | 0:04:13 | |
but biologically, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
they can be safely stored in liquid nitrogen indefinitely. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:21 | |
Barbara is in her late thirties and is currently single. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
She has decided to investigate the possibility | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
of having her eggs frozen and stored so that if she decides | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
to have children in the future, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
she has a better chance of becoming pregnant. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
I've made the decision now to look at possibly freezing | 0:04:41 | 0:04:49 | |
some of my eggs for future. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
I'd like to have the option in the future still to be able | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
to have a family with somebody. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
At least then I know I've done something about it, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
something that is going to be of importance to me in the future. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
My body is still how I felt when I was in my 20s, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
so, I don't feel any different. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
It's just a case, I'm a little bit older now. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
I just need to find out a little bit more. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
Today, Barbara is meeting Jenny Hall, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
managing director of Origin Fertility Care, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
to discuss the procedure. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
OK, what we try to do with drug stimulation, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
is we would use hormone drugs to help you to produce more eggs | 0:05:30 | 0:05:35 | |
than you would normally produce, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
then use a process called vitrification to freeze the eggs. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
I do think it's a good idea because Barbara is in her late 30s. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:47 | |
If all the other parameters are OK, then she should do that | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
because that is the only other choice she has at the minute. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:55 | |
Because you are a little bit older | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
and your ovaries may not respond | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
to the drug stimulation, we may not be able to collect enough eggs. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:04 | |
What we would propose to do in the first instance, is do a blood test. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
That blood test... | 0:06:08 | 0:06:09 | |
I think the urgency is to do it as soon as possible | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
because of my age, so that the eggs are going to be the age I am now, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:17 | |
not the age next year and the year after. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
I'm quite happy to proceed if the blood tests do come back | 0:06:20 | 0:06:25 | |
and they seem to be well. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
Yes, I'll be happy to go ahead. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
26-year-old Angela has been married to Mark since 2006, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
but their efforts to have a child have been hampered | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
by fertility problems. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
When I was 18, my monthly periods stopped altogether, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:50 | |
so I went to my GP. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
From there, they found out I had polycystic ovaries | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
and they decided to put me through fertility. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
I had treatment but I over-stimulated which meant all our embryos | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
had to be frozen. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:09 | |
Four months down the line after that, we got pregnant | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
but then I had a miscarriage after three or four weeks. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:19 | |
Now, Angela wants to use her remaining frozen embryos | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
in a second cycle of IVF treatment. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
I wasn't ready to give up. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
I had still some embryos frozen there, so I decided to go ahead | 0:07:31 | 0:07:36 | |
and use the rest of them up and keep trying. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
Angela has a total of 11 frozen embryos, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
but during the thaw process, not everything has gone to plan. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
They thawed out six embryos but, unfortunately, | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
four didn't survive. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
Two did survive but the didn't divide | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
so they had to thaw the remaining five out. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
Out of the five, two were suitable for transfer, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:11 | |
which is happening today. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
It's basically our last hope because that is all our eggs used up now. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:19 | |
Next time round, hopefully there is not a next time round | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
but if there is, it would be another fresh cycle for us. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
OK, ready? | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
The embryos are prepared in the adjoining lab | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
and are then placed in a catheter for transfer into Angela's uterus. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
..then pass the catheter through. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
Thank you. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:51 | |
OK, they're going in now. Good luck. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
-OK. -Thank you. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
This is the worst bit for them. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
It's about waiting now two weeks to find out if the test is positive | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
and there isn't anything you can do at this time. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
Two weeks is a long time, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
so it is one of the worst parts of the cycle, really. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
Whether it's a fresh transfer or a frozen, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
you still have to wait that two weeks. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
There is no easy way around it. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:26 | |
It just takes two weeks and then that is it. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
We look forward to hearing from you. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
-Just give us a wee shout if you have any queries. -Thank you. -OK. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
Determined to lose weight so that she can begin | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
her fertility treatment, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
Jilly has embarked on a new healthy lifestyle including | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
weekly Tai Chi sessions. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
I don't think we're going to get another chance at this. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
It's an expensive process for anybody to go through and at my age, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
I need to be realistic that this is our chance. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
We are throwing everything into this chance, losing weight, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
having good vibes from people, having prayer from people, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
taking all the help we can get. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
Jilly has also opted for an alternative therapy, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
known as Maya massage, which she hopes will complement | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
her fertility treatment. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
Nice, light movements. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:26 | |
Maya massage is best performed three months before IVF. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
We want to start working on a body, we want to start preparing | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
the body for IVF and what it has to go through. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
This movement here is both very relaxing.... | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
Our chances are low but at the same time, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
at least we have a chance and we're doing something positive. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
We're actually doing something active and positive about it. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
If things worked out for us within 11 months, we could be, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
not nursing basset hounds, we could be nursing a child. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
That is the possibility. We could also just been nursing basset hounds. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
Elaine and Andrew have been married for six years | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
but their efforts to have a child have proven difficult. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
I think we were trying for about a year and a half | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
before we both agreed, we needed to look into this, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:26 | |
we should see if there's a problem and why it's not happening. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
Then we discovered there was a private clinic in Belfast. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
We booked an appointment with them and then in January, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
started the first cycle of treatment. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
But in the final stages of Elaine's treatment, a problem arose. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
There was a risk of me having Ovarian Hyperstimulation Syndrome. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
The clinic weren't keen to continue with my treatment at that stage, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
they weren't willing to take that risk. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
So, they froze all my eggs. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
We were called up again to start the treatment | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
and it was a much shorter, much easier cycle because the eggs | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
were already there and it was just a matter of thawing those. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
I tested positive on the morning. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
About four o'clock in the morning I got up and tested positive. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
Eventually went to get a blood test before I could totally | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
convince myself this was real and this was happening. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
Then, we went for a six-week scan which confirmed that | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
the pregnancy was viable. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:38 | |
In a few months' time, Elaine is due to give birth | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
to the first baby to be conceived using a frozen egg in Ireland. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:48 | |
Today, Elaine is having her 24-week scan | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
and it is her first scan using 4D technology. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
To see the four dimensional and to see the face | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
and to see life inside of me, it was absolutely amazing. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:06 | |
That's amazing. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:07 | |
It was the first time I had seen a 4D scan in my life and it just | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
blew me away just to see how real everything was and the detail. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:20 | |
We are just so positive and happy now that we know that | 0:13:20 | 0:13:25 | |
we're going to have a baby very shortly and will be a proper family. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
We feel now we can go out and start planning the nursery | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
and doing all the things we want to do, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
up until now, we've been thinking about and dreaming about. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:42 | |
Wondering would it ever happen, I think it's as real | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
as it will ever be and fingers crossed, everything goes OK. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
Barbara is in her late thirties and is hoping to freeze her eggs | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
for possible use in the future. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
Today, she has returned to the clinic | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
to get the results of an important blood test. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
I'm a bit apprehensive, obviously. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
Tried not to think about it too much but today, we could ultimately | 0:14:12 | 0:14:18 | |
find out if we can proceed with the treatment really. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
The doctor will tell me the blood results today. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
It could come back good, it could come back negative, | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
so, we'll just have to wait and see. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
The blood test was taken to measure Barbara's AMH | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
or Anti-Mullarian Hormone level. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
This hormone is a good indicator of the function | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
of Barbara's ovaries and how she is likely to respond | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
to fertility treatment. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
Now, I have your AMH here, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:54 | |
which came back as 1.92. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
This is a low AMH, and that is compatible with your age. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:02 | |
-Yeah. -Right? And normally we expect a low ovarian response. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:08 | |
-Therefore, we need to use the maximum dose, OK? -A-ha. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:13 | |
What happens is we need, of course, to do the cycle and see how the | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
ovaries will respond, because the AMH is only at best, it's not 100% accurate. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:23 | |
-The actual reality is when you start the stimulation. -Yeah. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
-OK? And see what happens with that. -OK. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
Well, the doctor gave me the news of the Anti-Mullerian hormone. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:37 | |
As expected, it was going to be low. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
Just due to my age, anyway. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
But this is inconclusive, so, you know, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
we can still go away with doing the treatment, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
still, you know, do the egg production. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
While at the clinic, Barbara is scanned to check | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
how many follicles she produces in a normal monthly cycle. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
This is your uterus there. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
Each follicle will usually contain one egg. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
So, the more follicles she has, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
this higher her chances of producing more eggs. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
The follicle there is a small size, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
but probably that is what you would expect with a low AMH. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:20 | |
So, it may take a few more days for the left ovary to develop | 0:16:20 | 0:16:25 | |
and ovulate from there. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
Yeah. You know, I am still quite positive. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
At least there was some there, and up my mind at ease. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
I think still, you know, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
work on it and at least then I have had a go, at least I have tried, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:40 | |
rather than just giving up at the first hurdle. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
So, no, I'm OK about it actually. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
Jilly has managed to reach her target weight to enable her | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
to begin her fertility treatment. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:55 | |
Those are all the things that you have to be aware of. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
Today, she is at the clinic for a scan, to see if her treatment | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
is working and to check if her ovaries are producing follicles. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:06 | |
What we're looking at today is just to see the response you've had | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
to the stimulation. There is no set timetable | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
that you need to reach, we'll just have a look at your response | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
and plan it from there. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
So, you've got the ovaries, the whole area | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
and then these black areas here, those are your follicles. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
I had my eight-day scan and it revealed that I have... | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
the drugs are working. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
There are four main follicles which are really good size. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
And I think three or four smaller ones, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
which may or may not get to the optimum size. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
I think they need it 17 mm. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:40 | |
That's a nice response. We've got a look at the chart here. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
You've got four main follicles that are developing. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
These are your leading follicles, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:48 | |
so these are the ones we're interested in. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
Well, I am delighted, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
because I was really worried about coming in today. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
I just thought... We were driving down the road, I thought, | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
I could be driving out of here and going back to get | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
the rest of those drugs and that could be the end of it all. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
Well, that looks great. We like at least three, so well done. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
Well, that's brilliant. I am so relieved. I really am. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
No, I know. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
Yeah, I'm upbeat and I'm happy. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
I'm delighted I don't have to go down the road in tears and snotters. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
But anyway, you know, we still have to take this in a... | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
just take it sensibly and not be getting too OTT about it. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
But I am...I have to say, I am thrilled, | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
I am absolutely thrilled that we got this far. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
After the transfer of her embryos, all Angela and her husband Mark | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
can do is wait, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:38 | |
as she can only take a pregnancy test two weeks after the procedure. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:43 | |
This week has been quite good, you know, I've been busy. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
I'm just worrying a wee bit about next week. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
I'm sure the days will drag, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:52 | |
but I'll just have to keep myself busy and occupied. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
I just feel like everything will be fine, you know, | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
the outcome will be fine. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
It will just make my family complete, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
so that's it, that's what you want. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
A family to settle down with kids, wife, that's it. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
There's nothing else we want. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
We don't want big things in life, you know, just simple, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
simple things in life to make you happy. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
That's all we want. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:18 | |
At the clinic, it's an important day for Barbara, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
as she is being scanned to see | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
if her ovaries have responded to the drugs she has been taking. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
The scan is to check for follicles which may contain eggs | 0:19:34 | 0:19:39 | |
that Barbara could freeze for use in the future. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
This is your ovary on the left-hand side. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
At the moment, there is no...response on that side. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:50 | |
-Nothing? -No. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
This is your ovary on the right-hand side. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
-And you've got one follicle. -Yeah. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
That's developing, which equates to, we'd expect, one egg. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
Which is, you know, disappointing, but when we look at that AMH level | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
in your ovarian reserve, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:10 | |
-it's one of the possibilities that we are facing. -Yeah. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
I mean, you can see your ovary very clearly there and there is no... | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
none of the little black blobs that we would hope to see. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
So, I'm sorry, that's a bit disappointing. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
But I will take this out, we'll let you get dressed | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
and then we'll have a chat. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:29 | |
Unfortunately, things have not gone very well. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
She told me there is only one follicle there. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
Which may or may not have an egg, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
we never know until the time of the egg collection. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
-Yeah. -Because we can't see that on the screen. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
'I feel disappointed knowing that I'm not going to go forward | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
'and have the egg collection. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
'So, that little bit of' | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
peace of mind has been taken away again. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
So, very disappointing. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
If there were more follicles, even if there were three or four | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
follicles, I would say yes, it's worth going ahead. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
-Because probably that is what we will get, two or three eggs. -Yeah. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
And it will be a good asset. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
But going ahead with only one follicle, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
which then we have to strip it down and see if it's mature, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
I don't think really it's worth doing it. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
-Just for one, yeah, I know. -Just for one. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
'I don't think the possibilities are there for me to do it again | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
'because they need eight to ten | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
'or preferably 12, so...' | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
I won't be, obviously, pursuing that, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:37 | |
because I would have to do quite a few cycles to actually retrieve | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
that many eggs, eight to 12. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
-OK? -Thank you very much. -All right then, nice to see you. -Thank you. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
You know, I'd stress to any friend to try it | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
and don't leave it too long, cos, you know, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
look at what has happened with me. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
I've left it a long time and I wish I had done it earlier. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
Today is a big day for Jilly, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
as it's finally time for her egg collection. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
Embryologist Richard is preparing for the procedure. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
So, I'm just making sure that everything is up to temperature. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
These are the dishes we are going to collect the... | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
collect the eggs in. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
We're just going to keep these up. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
The first tube, you can see the yellow follicular fluid | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
and the pink flesh medium. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
The fluid is taken from the follicles in Jilly's ovaries | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
and then checked for the presence of an egg. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
As Richard checks each fluid sample, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
he calls out the result to the doctor in the theatre. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
Egg number two. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:55 | |
Egg number three. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:04 | |
Great, so four big follicles, four eggs, fantastic. That's really good. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
They will be stripped in this dish | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
and then put into a pre-ICSI dish to be injected later. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
Later that afternoon, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
Richard begins the treatments of Jilly's eggs with a process | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
known as ICSI or Intracytoplasmic Sperm Injection. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:39 | |
This process involves the selection of individual sperm for direct | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
injection into each of Jilly's eggs. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
So then we are going to take this sperm in tail first. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
Pick out one of the eggs. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
And we're just going to give it a little prod just to make sure | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
we are in the right place. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:58 | |
And then we are going to go in. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
Suck backwards. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
And then back in, so the sperm is entering the egg now. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
And then back out. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
So, that went very smoothly. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
Good break of the cytoplasm in the egg. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
So second sperm. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
This process is then repeated on Jilly's three remaining eggs | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
before all four are incubated overnight. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
OK, this is the post-ICSI dash. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
I am just going to remove the eggs from here into the dish for overnight culture. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
OK. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
No problems with the eggs, no problems with injecting them. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
The cytoplasm broke very easily, the sperm went in very easily, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
so really that is all we can do. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
And just wait till tomorrow morning. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
It's been over six weeks since her embryo transfer and Angela | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
and her husband Mark are coming to terms with the negative result. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:30 | |
When it fails, you just wonder why it hasn't worked and you do | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
a lot of research about different avenues of what can happen next | 0:25:33 | 0:25:38 | |
and you just have to keep going. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
You see people playing with their son or daughter | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
going down to town or anything, it will just pop in your mind. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:49 | |
Like Sunday there, for instance, I took my niece to swimming | 0:25:50 | 0:25:55 | |
and it was like a family session, you know, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
all the families there with their kids and all. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
That's...just wee situations like that makes it jump | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
into your mind and you think, | 0:26:03 | 0:26:04 | |
"Oh, I hope I can do this one day with my child." | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
After her efforts to freeze her eggs failed, | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
Barbara is now getting on with life and remaining optimistic. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
I had to kind of say, don't be too hard on myself, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
at least I've had to try. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:27 | |
Yes, it wasn't successful, | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
but I probably would have still been curious. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
If I don't ever have my own children, I would adopt or perhaps even foster. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:38 | |
I don't think my life is going to be empty as such in that way. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:43 | |
Despite an initial successful implantation, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
Jilly's treatment was ultimately unsuccessful. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
We understand implantation took place with two, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
so we would've basically been having a twin pregnancy. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
And then we lost... we lost the pregnancy, basically. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:09 | |
So, it was just... It has been a terrible, really awful time. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:14 | |
Now, after undergoing extensive tests, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
Jilly has a possible explanation for her fertility problems, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
which provide her with hope for the future. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
There is a system that we all have called natural killer cells | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
and they are the things meant to prevent us from getting cancer. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
And I have elevated levels of those. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
So, while you are meant to have under 15% | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
to keep your body on the level, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
mine are in the 20s, 20%. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
So, what they do is they recognise | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
any new body, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
any new cell that comes into your body | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
as a foreign object and they go in and they fight it | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
and they get rid of it. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
So, that has given us an explanation for what we have been through. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
We know I have a situation where we are going to go through, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
hopefully, the IVF system again, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
whether it is ICSI or whatever way they do it, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
so I feel very hopeful. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:10 | |
I've always felt we'd have a little girl. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
I still feel we're going to have a little girl | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
and while there is hope, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
there is every chance, I suppose. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:18 | |
But I just feel we've got a better chance now. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
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