Danielle and Mollie Underage and Pregnant


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I'm 16 and I'm 36 weeks pregnant.

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I was really shocked.

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Sort of didn't know what to do at first.

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I was focusing on my wrestling

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and that was not even on my mind, let alone in the back of my mind.

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I can't wait until this part of it is over.

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I just want to get on with it now and be a mum

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so I can get back to being me.

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16 year-old Danielle is due to have a little girl in just four weeks.

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She lives with her mum, Sarah, and gran, Jenny, in Norfolk.

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Well, obviously, I'm looking forward to it.

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She better not be like her mother!

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What do you mean? What's wrong with me?

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You used to cry!

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Every baby cries!

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-Not like you two did.

-You're never happy, are you?

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I lost my virginity, when I was, just before I turned 14.

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I then fell pregnant when I was 15.

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It was a complete accident, me getting pregnant.

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I was on the pill and had not missed one pill.

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15 is far from an ideal age to have children.

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It's very, very strange looking at your daughter and thinking

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"My word, she's got a little one in there."

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I was disappointed cos I thought she's never going to have, well,

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not a teenager's life, is she? Because of the baby.

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Danielle didn't have her dad in her life until she was 12,

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when mum Sarah revealed who he was.

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CROWD BOOS AND JEERS

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Professional wrestler, Karl "The Barbarian" Kramer.

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It wasn't until, I think it must have been, four or five years ago

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and that's when I told them both, that he was her dad.

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He didn't know either.

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It was a shock for her as much as it was me,

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one, for her to find out who I was

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and for me to find out who she was.

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And ever since then, we've been really, really close.

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Before she got pregnant

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Danielle had already left school without her GCSEs,

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and has now decided to follow in her dad's footsteps.

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I've been doing it for about four years now,

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minus the break of me being pregnant.

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But I am hoping to go back to it.

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Her dad wasn't pleased that her career was going to be on hold for a baby.

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It's a stupid age to have a kid, in my eyes.

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You haven't seen life, you haven't been nowhere, or done nothing.

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She was doing well, just starting to get out onto the circuit.

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Now she's back at the bottom again, and she has to work her way back up.

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Danielle might not be able to wrestle

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but she's still going every week with her mum, who MCs the matches.

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This is going to be a last man standing match.

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She's desperate to get back in the ring

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and has set a goal of two months after the birth.

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I'm feeling pretty sick at the moment, to be honest,

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getting a bit tired of being pregnant and,

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and watching all of this doesn't really help much.

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One, two...

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No. Come on, you have to...

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16 year-old students Mollie and Ross have been parents for exactly a year.

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She's cleverer than us...

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Daughter Ebonie was one last week. She's now teething and has a virus.

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It will make you feel better.

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EBONIE CRIES AND GRIZZLES

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At 15, Mollie had been seeing Ross for eight months

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when she fell pregnant.

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It wasn't my choice to be pregnant,

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it was a fail of contraception, I was actually on the pill.

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I don't understand what went wrong with it,

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I didn't miss anything, nothing. It just doesn't make sense.

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Ross reacted better than I thought.

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I thought he was going to run away from the pregnancy

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but he didn't. He stuck by me and he always has.

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When I found out Mollie was pregnant, initially I was scared

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for what my parents would think, rather than myself.

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Six months after her daughter gave birth,

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Mollie's 33 year-old mum and her boyfriend discovered

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they, too, were having a baby.

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Peter and I, we'd been trying for a baby for three-and-a-half years.

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We found out Mollie was pregnant and it sort of threw us both

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because we were meant have the baby, not my baby having a baby!

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It is very, very strange. I've had a lot of comments.

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People teasing me, "Oh, you're a granddad before you're a dad."

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One minute she was playing with dollies and the next she's got a real baby.

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It was just such a shock.

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Your worst nightmare come true.

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I was 16 when I had Mollie.

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That's how I knew what she would be going through.

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With another baby on the way

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and all of them living in a two-bedroom house,

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it was decided that Mollie would move out.

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I live in assisted housing with Ebonie.

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It's a one bedroom flat.

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And it's just till I'm on my feet.

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Ross lives with his dad.

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We decided that because we're only young we didn't want to move in

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with each other just yet as it would put a strain on our relationship even more.

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Living with Mollie and Ebonie isn't the most important thing right now

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because we think it's good that if I need to get away for any reason,

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it's good that I can go and have time on my own,

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and I don't feel trapped here.

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Spend some time with my friends, without Ebonie.

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It is quite lonely, when I am left on my own.

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I think I would like Ross to move in with me in the future.

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Urgh, thanks Ebs!

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It's OK!

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But living away from her mum AND her boyfriend

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is often a struggle for Mollie.

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Part of me would like to be back at home with my mum,

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because of the extra hands and help, when things get really hard,

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especially when Ebonie is ill, but you get by and you do it.

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Shall we just take this off?

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Take this off?

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Danielle is expecting her baby in just three weeks.

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She might not be able to wrestle herself

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but she's come along to watch as usual.

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Fighting tonight is the father of her child.

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Alex Young!

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CHEERING

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BELL RINGS

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Today's wrestling, round one!

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Danielle met Alex two years ago, when she was 14 and he was 16.

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But the relationship ended when Danielle was six months pregnant.

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Because of being pregnant, the break-up messed me up a lot more

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than I think it would have done if I wasn't pregnant.

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It was the immediate thought of,

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"I'm going to be left on my own, what am I going to do?"

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But we both decided that we were still going to be friends.

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He still wanted to be in the baby's life.

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I said that was absolutely fine.

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We're good friends and everything, we still talk,

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every now and then we'll text each other and have a phone call,

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just see how things are going and stuff, so we still stay in contact.

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I'm going to be there, I'm not worried about it or anything.

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Danielle has moved on since the split.

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Also on the bill tonight is her new boyfriend.

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MUSIC PLAYS

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23-year-old Scott, AKA Fusion.

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I've known him for, well, since I started, so that's about four years.

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He is quite a bit older. I mean, he's 23.

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I was just surprised that another man

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would want to go out with somebody who was eight months pregnant.

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But he's a nice chap though.

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He does know the father of the baby.

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They are quite good friends, funnily enough.

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I was absolutely fine with it.

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I knew me and Danielle wouldn't get back together.

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I was trying to get on with my life

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and glad to see she was trying to get on with hers.

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He's a nice guy and everything, so I'm happy for them.

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He was one of the first two people, other than her father,

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that I wanted to discuss the relationship with.

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He said that if Danielle was to be with anybody else

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within the wrestling company, he'd rather it be me

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because he knows he can trust me and I'm not going to mess around when it comes to his child.

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I'm just going to be there solely for Danielle, but also for the baby as well.

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But with Alex being as close to us as he is,

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I can't really see there being much of an issue.

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In Hertfordshire, 16-year-old Mollie has been living alone with daughter Ebonie for two months.

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Boyfriend Ross still lives with his dad

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but spends a lot of time at Mollie's flat, as does his best friend Matt.

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Ross can be very immature, especially when he's with Matt.

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They have their boyish ways of being boys.

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I do not like computer games, they're horrible.

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They're mind-controlling.

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I do get a little bit annoyed when he plays computer games,

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but the rule is he's only allowed to play computer games when Ebonie is in bed.

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Mollie finds the computer games the hardest thing to compete with.

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She's forever messaging me, "I'm bored."

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Ross is allowed to be a proper teenager.

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I don't think I've ever been a proper teenager.

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I'd say I was possibly born to be a mum.

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She might be a natural mum, but she also wants a career.

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Mollie got nine GCSE's while she was pregnant.

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A future for me is really important because I've got to not only think about me

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but think about Ebonie, which is why I decided to go to college

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and study health and social care

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because I'd like to become a midwife.

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What's Mummy going to do today? Mummy's going to go to college.

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Right, see you later.

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Both Mollie and Ross are in full-time education

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so Mollie's mum Tracey helps out with the childcare.

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Juggling my studying with Ebonie is OK,

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but if she's had a sleepless night, cos I've got to get up at seven,

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if she's had me up for an hour every other hour,

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it's sort of, you come in and you're really tired and you don't feel like learning.

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And that's the time when you want to switch your alarm off

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and pretend you don't have to get up,

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but really you have to get on with it.

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Mollie, your reasons for being a midwife?

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I guess when I was in labour, there wasn't a very nice midwife

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and I thought it was a bit weird her being a midwife if she's not going to be nice to people.

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So you'd like to make sure everyone had a friendly midwife?

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That's a good reason.

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If I don't pass, I'll feel I've not only failed me but Ebonie as well,

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because I think it's important for me to do something

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that can provide her for her future as well as mine.

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Juggling college four days a week with looking after a teething Ebonie

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leaves hardly any alone time for the teenage couple.

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I don't think we're as romantic as we used to be.

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They should spend more time together as a couple,

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and I've always said, it's so important for you two to just to be you two

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and to be teenagers.

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Do you want your bottle?

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There's so much time taken up by looking after Ebonie,

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we've got to make sure we make time for each other and stop being Mum and Dad,

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otherwise it'll just start to ruin things.

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In Norfolk, 16-year-old Danielle is now a mum.

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She gave birth to daughter Gracie two weeks ago.

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BABY SNEEZES

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She was seven pounds two ounces when she was born.

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She has been really good so far, actually, she only wakes up

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once or twice in the night and she's not really a crier, to be honest.

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It's tiring, really tiring, but I wouldn't swap it for the world now.

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She's definitely got my nose and my mouth.

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Up from her nose to her eyes and the way her face is,

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I think she definitely looks like Alex.

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I couldn't be more proud of the way Danielle coped with everything.

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She did a lot better than I did, and she's still doing really well.

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Danielle's old wrestling partner, Alice,

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is here for the first sleepover since the baby arrived.

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-What have you been doing this week?

-What have I been doing?

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I've not really been doing that much. Looking after a baby and that's about it.

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When I was breast-feeding her I tried my breast milk.

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I can't help it, I wanted to know how it tasted! It just tastes like sweet normal milk.

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And it was actually quite nice, I could actually drink that.

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"Happily drink my breast milk, you know."

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Know what? After I tried it I was like, "Wow. I don't blame you for liking boobs."

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With the birth behind her, Danielle is now focusing on getting back in the ring.

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Dan, when are you coming back to wrestling?

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I'll aim to come back mid-February and just see how it goes.

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I'm a bit nervous about it cos obviously I need to

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get my body used to it again, because you don't naturally

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throw yourself back and hurt yourself, do you?

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It's not a natural thing to do, so I have to get used to doing it again.

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She's a really good wrestler. Like, I look up to her for wrestling

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cos she's a big influence on me in wrestling. She's a natural at it.

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I think now she's a terrific mum and I think it's good that she wants

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to carry on wrestling as well. She hasn't just given up.

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I think I'm actually really proud of her,

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how she's done and everything.

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Back in Hertfordshire, Mollie has gone to visit

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her 18-year-old friend Marissa, who was also a mum at 15.

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Are you playing?

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After just half an hour together, Ebonie's teething takes its toll.

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BABY CRIES

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Hey, look at Mummy, look at Mummy. Stop, stop.

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Ebonie doesn't sleep through the night

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since her teeth have started coming up, so at night-time

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she wakes up three to four times for her bottle, and if I don't

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give her her bottle she'll scream and scream and scream and scream.

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BABY CRIES

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BABY CONTINUES TO CRY

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After battling to get Ebonie to sleep for three-and-a-half hours,

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Mollie gives up.

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Hey...

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What's with that racket?

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I feel sorry for you having to put up with that and go to college.

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Yeah, it's difficult. You're just a terror.

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Ross and friend Matt arrive and take Ebonie home

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so Mollie can spend time with her friend,

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something Ross has been trying to do more of lately.

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Be good for Dada.

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That's a no. See ya, Mollie.

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Have fun!

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Back at Mollie's flat, the boys are home alone with Ebonie.

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-Ross?

-Yeah.

-You know what you should do?

-What?

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-Big pile of washing.

-Er, no.

-Why?

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Cos that's not my job.

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Come on then, what are we going to make?

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-Feeling like a dad?

-I don't know.

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Not really. It's still a bit surreal.

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-Mum.

-Ma-ma-Mum is not here, Ebonie, I'm afraid.

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-You have Matt and Ross.

-Matt and Dad.

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Ross to me. Matt and Dad, then, there you go.

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When you're talking to her you have to refer to me as Dad.

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Ross is a good dad. I mean, he does a lot more things around the house,

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looks after Ebonie, whereas before he didn't do anything really much.

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He's changed a lot.

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Good girl. None of my friends have kids

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and I haven't made any friends through having Ebonie that have children.

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And I often find it difficult to make new friends.

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I feel...

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kind of like I've jumped ahead of everyone and left everyone else behind me.

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At first, it caused quite a bit of trouble between me and my friends, but a lot of the real friends,

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we got over it and they've learned to live with the fact that I'm a parent now

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and not some silly little teenager.

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Is that baby?

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While Ross is becoming a hands-on dad, in Norfolk,

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new dad Alex isn't finding that so easy.

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His daughter is two-weeks-old and he's only seen her twice since the birth.

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-If you need to switch your grip tell me, dude.

-It's all right, I'm good now.

-OK.

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I'm missing a lot of things, yeah, like her baths and everything.

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I haven't bathed her, I've never fed her,

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The most I've done for her is cuddle her and change her bum.

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That's the most I've done for her, to be honest.

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So, yeah, I feel like I'm missing a lot of things.

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Alex lives an hour away

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and travelling between the two is difficult for him and Danielle.

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We're having quite a few problems

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in being able to see each other's point of view.

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I think Alex ideally wants for me to take her to him.

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I think I'm just going to have to take it as it comes

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and keep in mind that she's the most important thing.

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She's in Danielle's care, to be honest, so basically I have to

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sort of do what she tells me and try to abide by her rules,

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which I don't like.

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Yeah, I really do wish I had waited for maybe somebody, like,

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who I knew I was going to be in a relationship with and stuff,

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but obviously things don't always work out the way you want them to.

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Alex is in training for a big wrestling match tomorrow night.

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But this is no ordinary fight.

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His opponent is Danielle's boyfriend, Scott.

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Hopefully I'm going to walk out champion.

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-That's what I'm hoping anyway.

-I'm just hoping you walk out, mate.

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Since relations have deteriorated between Alex and Danielle,

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things between Alex and Scott have also gone downhill.

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He is now with the mother of your child,

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so you're always going to be a part of her life.

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You're telling me that's not going to grate on him?

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Probably does. Still, hopefully things'll be sorted between me and him.

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We can hope.

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It's the night of the big fight.

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Danielle watches from the sidelines as her ex and current boyfriends battle it out in the ring.

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Both wrestlers, out of control. This is now a no-contest!

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We want more! We want more! We want more!

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The referee has stopped the fight and declared it a no-contest,

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making nobody a winner.

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'I was, sort of a little bit apprehensive as to what was going to happen.'

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I think it was a fair match for a good ten minutes.

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And then I think it went a bit sort of skew-whiff.

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I don't know, what that's got to do with...

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Maybe it's unfinished business. Maybe it's something to do with me.

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They might've taken personal differences into the ring,

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or maybe they just got a bit too carried away.

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Ebonie, say, "I love my mummy."

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While things remain tricky for Danielle,

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life for Mollie and Ross is looking a lot more settled.

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Fatherhood's good. It's becoming challenging as Ebonie gets older but still enjoying it.

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I'm at Mollie's pretty much all the time.

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The priority now is my family. It's about me, Mollie and Ebonie,

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and they come first.

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-Who's idea was it to get her ice-cream?

-Yum yum!

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I'm a lot more happier now. I'm happy with where we're headed.

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Hello! Is it silly?

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I do think we're closer, me and Ross, now.

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We recently went to the cinema and a concert together,

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and it made us feel closer as a couple because we haven't really done it for ages.

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I think that was the first proper night we've been out since we've had her.

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But it felt quite nice to just have a little break

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and just be us for a little while.

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It feels like spring.

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Since me and Ross first got together, I think I love him more than I first did,

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because we've come so far and been through so much.

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I do feel proud and happy that we are still together

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because when people say, "Does she see her dad?",

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I'm like, "Yeah, she lives with her dad, pretty much."

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They look at me, thinking, "Really?" I'm like, "We've been together for three years,"

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and they're like, "What?". I'm like, "Yeah."

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He's got a toothbrush, a deodorant and a shower gel,

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which is in the bathroom, and obviously his PlayStation.

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And his best friend, who lives here, practically.

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Yeah, pretty much!

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I'd to think we break the mould of stereotypical teen parents.

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It's quite a horrible stereotype to be put into.

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I want to prove everyone wrong, that I'm not the mess-up that's going to ruin my child's life,

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and I think that stereotype helps to aspire me to be a good parent,

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because that's the last thing I want to be.

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Yeah, I'm glad I stuck around and I didn't run away.

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If I hadn't stuck around I wouldn't have been able to watch my little girl grow up.

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And it means a lot to me.

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Boo!

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Back in Norfolk, Danielle's wrestling career has been on hold for a year,

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but with the baby now two-months-old she's ready to get back in the ring for the first time.

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I'm pretty nervous about it. I've been training all weekend

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to get my body used to it again, and that's gone really well.

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So I'm hoping that tonight's going to go really well.

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I haven't tried my wrestling gear on yet because I've been a little bit too afraid to.

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I thought if I leave it until THE night, I've got no choice but to go out there!

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-Do you want to see some wrestling?

-Yeah!

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Let's get this show on the road!

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CHEERING

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Getting back in the ring has made her think about how to juggle her career as a wrestler with Gracie.

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Wrestling is most definitely what I want to do.

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Gracie will affect my career in terms of going abroad,

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but that is something I knew would happen and I went into with open eyes.

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I am happy to wrestle in Norwich for the rest of my life.

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I'm that addicted to it, I'd wrestle in the same show,

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in the same match every night if I had to, because that is what I want to do.

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After a successful night's wrestling, Danielle is back in her role as a mum,

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and boyfriend Scott is by her side.

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Before we were together when I knew you,

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I wouldn't have been able to see you sat there with a baby.

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You're pretty serious-looking and you're quiet.

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To everybody else, not to me.

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It's just a little bit strange at times obviously cos I'm not her real father.

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I do what I can with what I'm able to, I think's the best way to describe it.

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Even though she's not mine, she still needs that figure

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of a second, not parent, but stable individual in her life

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when Alex isn't around.

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Things between Alex and Danielle haven't improved.

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He put himself in the situation where he had a child on the way

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and he left.

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I'll never forgive him, for leaving me, for leaving her.

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Still, even though I don't have any feelings for him any more,

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it still sort of makes me tear up a bit just because...

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I used to think, when I have kids I wanted them to be

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in a stable home with stable parents who'd get on,

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and she will now never have that.

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I never had that.

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She won't have what the majority of other kids around her will have,

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which is what I will always be apologising to her for.

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But Scott's amazing with Gracie. He loves her to pieces.

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He doesn't call himself Dad but he's there for her,

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and that's all I'd want from a partner.

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I wouldn't want her to be under anyone else's care but mine and his,

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and Scott is now one of the only people I can really be myself with.

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Obviously, having Gracie has changed me quite a bit

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but I wouldn't have it any other way.

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Next time, we meet 16-year-old Amy from Plymouth.

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So you're just going to leave me? Huh?!

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They'll never be good for each other.

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Everything I do for him, he just throws it back in my face.

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I just can't do it anymore.

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And Naomi from Derbyshire.

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It's my mistake but a good mistake.

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I'm happy.

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