Charlotte and Natasha Underage and Pregnant


Charlotte and Natasha

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Everything's stressing me out at the minute. Everything and everyone.

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She sort of reverts back into teenager mode.

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If we even try and talk, it ends up in a row.

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I'm not bothering with her.

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I'm not even going to try and make it better.

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I can't live with her, not as she is.

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One, two, three!

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Charlotte from Conwy in North Wales is mum to ten-month-old Melanie.

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Tonight, it's a Saturday,

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most 16-year-olds will be out with their friends

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or drinking or at a party...

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..but I'm at home with Melanie!

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Oh, Melly.

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I got my pregnancy test in the clinic so when she told me I was pregnant,

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I was like, "Oh, my gosh, what shall I do?"

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Charlotte and the baby's dad were both 15 when they found out she was pregnant.

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I think we were only together for about a month,

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but it wasn't a good relationship, we were constantly arguing and stuff.

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Where's Melly gone? Peekaboo!

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The best bit was that she had already told me

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her and her boyfriend wasn't having sex because he was still a virgin.

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So I used to rib them and say,

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"Don't go swimming without your socks on"

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and everything else, and Charlotte used to say,

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"Eww, I'm not popping his cherry!"

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Peekaboo!

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Charlotte and Melanie live with her mum Kelly and her five brothers and sisters.

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It wasn't a case of this was her first time.

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She has been sexually active for quite a while.

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I don't know if that was because we had open conversations about sex,

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even right down to positioning.

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That's the kind of relationship we've had.

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Charlotte used to be a goody two-shoes,

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she used to be Mum's perfect child and we all used to look at Charlotte

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and think, oh, she's Mum's favourite,

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but now I look at her and I'm like no, she's not good, she's done some quite stupid things.

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Before she found out she was pregnant, Charlotte had her future mapped out.

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I was in the air cadets.

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My career choice was always to go into the police or the RAF police,

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because it's interesting as well.

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I wouldn't mind being a pilot either!

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When she said that she was pregnant, I was a little disappointed because she had already made up her mind

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on what she wanted from life, what her career was going to be, and then...it's gone.

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All I want Charlotte to do is to do two rescue breaths and 30 compressions.

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Less than one in five young mums in Wales are in work or education.

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But with her mum to mind Melanie, Charlotte was back at school just three weeks after giving birth

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and is now at college studying uniformed services.

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Charlotte is an excellent student

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and how she manages to get the assignments in on time

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and to the quality she writes them, it's a credit to her.

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-What do old people wear in their mouths?

-Dentures.

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I'm still at college and I still want to be a police officer,

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I AM going to be a police officer...

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..and having a baby is not going to stop me.

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I was 15 when I caught pregnant and now I'm 16 and Levi is three months.

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Natasha and her son Levi live in Mexborough in Yorkshire.

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I were getting a big belly and having cravings

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so I had the thought in my head, what if I am pregnant?

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But I wasn't going to take a pregnancy test just in case,

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but I didn't exactly take a pregnancy test until I was five months.

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Natasha was living with her dad when she found out she was already 20 weeks into her pregnancy.

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When Natasha,

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when she's come home and said she was pregnant,

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I wasn't very pleased at all.

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I felt like knocking her head off for being stupid,

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but there's nowt you can do once it's happened.

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After she'd had Levi,

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Natasha moved in with her older sister Bonnie and her two daughters for extra support.

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When I found out I was pregnant, I told my sister and my mum

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and they were happy for me, but you could see they were disappointed as well.

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Natasha and her 18-year-old boyfriend were still in a relationship when Levi was born.

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Me and Levi's father had been going out for two-and-a-half years,

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but then all the arguments kicked off

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and I can't cope with it as well as looking after a baby.

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I can't see me and Levi's father getting back together at all.

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Do you want a big family, Tash, like Mum had? Like eight kids?

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I want a big-ish, but not that many, about three or four.

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-You're going to wait for a few years, aren't you?

-Yeah.

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Settle down, get married?

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I don't want to get married.

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-Why's that?

-I just don't want to.

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-Why, because divorce is dearer than the wedding?

-Yeah.

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Natasha's sister was also a teen mum and, like Natasha, Bonnie is single.

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You don't need to be in a relationship to be a mum,

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she's happier to learn to be a mum by herself,

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you know, to be a mum and then to become a partner again.

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This bag is for Levi's clothes, because I've got nowhere to put them at the moment.

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This house is a two-bedroomed house, Natasha's room is my back room downstairs,

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and it's a pain in the backside lifting the sofa bed up and down the stairs.

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Natasha's stay with her sister was supposed to be temporary.

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-Tasha?

-What?

-Where do you want your bags of stuff putting?

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That was nearly two months ago.

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I'll just put it all down here and then it's out the way for now.

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-It's nice, I enjoy having her here.

-It's a bit cramped.

-It'll be better when you get your own house.

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You kind of need your own house cos we can't keep living like this.

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It's like living in a tin of sardines.

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-It's not very big, is it?

-No.

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Tristan, can you go and see Charlotte?

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She doesn't like mornings at all.

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It's 7am and in North Wales, Charlotte's mum Kelly has been up for an hour.

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From the time I get up in the morning...

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..it's just, get out of bed and start work.

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-Where are your boots for school?

-Wakey wakey!

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Melanie usually sleeps until about 7:45.

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Charlotte wakes her up, I've made her a bottle of tea.

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Can you make sure there's no other dishes laying around?

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Usually while I'm making the cups of tea, I'm emptying the dishwasher at the same time.

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If you didn't have a routine in the morning, you'd soon get overwhelmed

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with everything that's got to be done.

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Melanie! What are you doing?

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Charlotte is very much a typical teenager. She won't go out unless she looks absolutely spot on.

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Kelly takes 11-month-old Melanie to nursery so that Charlotte can continue her education.

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Mum, try not to forget Melanie's pram this time.

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You could always put the pram in the car yourself.

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-Only if I'm going to be late.

-Daniel, have you got your shoes on?

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I don't work, so it gives me the opportunity to provide that support

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for Charlotte, and a lot of people don't have that opportunity.

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I don't think Charlotte realises sometimes exactly how much I do.

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After a long day at college,

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Charlotte is faced with looking after an increasingly active Melanie.

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Melanie is that age where she's climbing on furniture

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and climbing into things, and Charlotte is having to chase her more.

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Melanie! No!

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Melanie! Don't touch!

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No!

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Melanie, no!

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I think she gets overwhelmed by it at times.

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She loves all the good bits, but when it comes to the boring stuff, like the cleaning up after her,

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she sort of reverts back into teenager mode.

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She will be completely and utterly lazy.

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I try and have a good relationship with her. It has been tense since Melanie was born.

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Over the last few weeks, Kelly has become concerned

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that Charlotte's struggling with the increasing demands of motherhood.

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It was all right when Melanie was a little, tiny baby cos she was cute and cuddly but now she's up and...

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Spoilt.

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Yeah, and she's got no routine or bedtime.

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I always have a go at Charlotte for that.

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Well, she was up at 11:45 the other night.

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She's started banging on my walls now so it keeps me up as well.

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She doesn't clean up after her,

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there was a bowl and a half of stuff out there yesterday.

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-Of Melanie's?

-And Charlotte's.

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All this washing here was in the basket and she's just thrown it there so she can take the basket.

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It's a shame because I used to think of her as my best friend.

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She was your best child!

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She was your favourite, I remember being so jealous of her.

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-Are you washing your hair?

-To try to get Charlotte to do things for herself,

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Kelly has taken radical action.

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I've withdrawn every kind of support from Charlotte.

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You know, I don't cook for her, I don't do her dishes,

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I don't do her washing,

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I don't take Melanie here, there and everywhere for her.

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I don't do any of that.

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I don't understand why she's being the way she is,

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I don't understand what's changed in such a short space of time.

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It's February, and today is Melanie's first birthday party.

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Melanie, shall we bounce?

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Charlotte's relationship with her mum has become so strained

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that Kelly hasn't turned up to the party.

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She didn't tell me she wasn't coming, but she didn't really say she was.

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We're not getting on that well, but she could have turned up.

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At the end of the day, Melanie is never going to be one again.

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It's her loss, not mine.

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In Yorkshire, 16-year-old Natasha has had a change of heart about being a single mum.

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Walk down there and find a bench.

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Baby Levi is no longer the only man in Natasha's life.

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She's got a new boyfriend - 22-year-old catering assistant, Daryl.

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For lunch, usually take her to KFC or something, she's crazy about chicken.

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I want to go on the donkeys!

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You may be just a little bit too big.

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Me and Natasha started talking on Facebook, texting and it progressed from there.

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Wow!

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When I first saw her, they were the first words that I thought.

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-What's that, is it a duck?

-Seagull.

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Physical attraction was there.

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Then when we got speaking, you know, I could tell that she was a down to earth girl.

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The thing I like most about Daryl is his personality

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because he's a really nice lad, he actually cares about your feelings.

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It was love at first sight in my eyes, I don't know about him.

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-She's got a very weird, fun personality to be with.

-Thank you! Weird.

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I wouldn't change it for anything, that's the main reason why I love her for it.

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Daryl lives 60 miles away from Natasha with his parents

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so to get some time together, they're staying at a bed and breakfast.

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-It's a bit awkward though isn't it?

-Yeah, not having a kitchen or 'owt, unless you want Pot Noodles,

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there's not a lot else we can do.

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I think it's nice to be out of Bonnie's house,

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just for the fact you've got time alone and space to do things your own way.

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I find it easier to spend time with him when we're by ourselves with just Levi

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because we get to spend time as a family.

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He tries this best with Levi and I suppose that's all that really matters.

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I honestly don't see a problem with there being children in a relationship already.

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As long as you're willing to love that child as if it's your own, there shouldn't be a problem at all.

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I'm quite lucky so far. He's not done the worst of the three.

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He's not weed on me yet.

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I don't think he needs a lot of directing.

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When he first changed his bum, he went in head first with a smelly one, but he did it OK.

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Natasha and Levi are still sleeping in sister Bonnie's back room.

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Hello, take a seat.

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Today, Natasha's trying to find them a home of their own.

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Do you want to tell me what you're looking for?

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-A two-bedroomed house.

-Can I ask, are you working at all?

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-No.

-Have you looked into the housing benefit system?

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-See what help you can get.

-They said £98 a week.

-£98 a week.

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Natasha is eligible for housing benefit,

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so the council will pay towards her rent, but she'll have to come up with a deposit of £400.

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I'm most excited about just having my own space and be able to do what I want.

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Daryl will be coming down during hours that he's not got work.

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We'll have our own place that we can just sit down and talk

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and spend time together without everyone else.

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This is the living room, so you have a real log burning fire there.

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Only one in ten teen mums lives independently.

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Through here you've got your kitchen.

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Since she was 18, Natasha's sister's been in that position,

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with only state benefits for support. Now Natasha faces the same challenges.

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I don't think she's thought about it properly, about living on her own.

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She's got to pay for gas and electricity.

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She needs to sort out all the paperwork for her housing benefit,

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council tax, sort her water out, TV licence.

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-It's going to be difficult.

-This is the second bedroom, decorated for the little one.

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I wouldn't say I'm scared about the responsibility,

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run the house, look after Levi, because I've always got help,

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but I'll most probably find it hard after what I've heard from my sisters.

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The house is really nice.

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I didn't think there'd be anything like that with so much furniture already in it.

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Hopefully I can afford it and get moved in as soon as.

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Kieron, you need to go and have a wash, do your teeth and get dressed.

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In North Wales, things between Charlotte and her mum have hit rock bottom.

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Charlotte's in bed this morning. She normally is at this time.

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Since Kelly stopped taking Melanie to nursery, Charlotte's been struggling with college.

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Charlotte can't be bothered getting the bus in the morning

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to take Melanie to the creche so Charlotte doesn't go to college.

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See you later, Mum!

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Nobody does anything for us two.

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It's just like Charlotte's not here, Melanie is here sometimes

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because sometimes they all decide to talk to her and sometimes they decide to walk straight past her.

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Mum don't drop off Melanie any more so I can't really go to college

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so I think I might drop out for the rest of the year.

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She's still got the nursery placement, though.

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Yeah, and how do you expect me to get there?

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Well, you could get up a bit earlier and go by bus.

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Yeah, two buses. Don't think so.

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When I had six kids, I still managed to get you all ready

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and take you to school and go to college.

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Didn't want to go to college anyway. Did me a favour.

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'As long as I was picking up and carrying after her,

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'she was fine to go, but now she's just thrown it all away.'

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If she really wanted to do what she said she wanted to do,

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she'd only have to get up a little bit earlier.

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Maybe not make so much fuss about her hair and her make-up,

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get on a bus and take Melanie to the creche.

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The relationship breakdown is having a knock-on effect on everyone in the house.

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Should be in bed by about eight o'clock.

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-You never take her to bed that early.

-That's how much interest you pay to her any more

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-because she's been going to bed at eight o'clock for quite a while.

-No, she hasn't.

-Yeah, she has.

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-Is this nice, Melanie?

-Shut it. I am being nice to you.

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Oh, yeah? So last night when I was shouting you loads and loads and loads and you were ignoring me.

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-You can't expect me to just drop everything for you, love.

-Yeah, you should.

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When she's here, you can cut the atmosphere with a knife.

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It's just so tense.

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Everybody is feeling it, and it's horrible living here, it's absolutely horrible.

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Don't even start...

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Right, no more.

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All gone!

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No, it's not yay, naughty.

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Everything is stressing me out at the moment, everything and everyone.

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First, my mum and that lot.

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Second, Melanie, because I'm not used to having her all day, every day.

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Normally if I come in the room, Charlotte leaves.

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If Charlotte's in there, I leave.

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We don't normally sit in a room together any more.

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If we even try and talk, it ends up in row.

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It would be easier if my mum was helping me,

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but I'm not bothering with her, I'm not going to try and make it better anymore.

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I dearly love Melanie and I do love Charlotte,

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but I don't like her, I can't live with her,

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not as she is.

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In Yorkshire, Natasha and Daryl have been going out together for almost three weeks.

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Natasha didn't get the house she wanted because she couldn't afford the deposit,

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but other things in her life are moving on.

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Natasha's dad has received an unexpected request.

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Daryl sent me a message on Facebook asking for my daughter's hand in marriage.

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I was pleased about him sending the message,

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at least I know that he's going to be looking after her and that he likes her.

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I just sent him permission and wished him congratulations.

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I was very nervous of asking Natasha to marry me.

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It's a big commitment at the best of times.

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I wanted to reassure her that I'm not going anywhere, I'm here to stay.

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When I found out he was actually serious, I was very shocked

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because I didn't think it would be for a couple more months, maybe years.

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Let's see your ring. That's really pretty,

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Aw, congratulations.

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Did you get down on one knee and hold her hand?

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Yeah, and she just sat there giggling for a while

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and then turned around and said yes.

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How long have you been together?

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Been together about three weeks.

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-Don't you think people will think that it's a bit sudden?

-It feels...I don't know, normal.

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It just felt right.

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In North Wales, there have been massive changes over the last few days.

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Charlotte's mum has thrown her and Melanie out, so they've been taken in by Charlotte's aunt.

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My mum just said all your stuff will be outside by 7pm, don't bother bringing your keys back.

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I've changed the locks so I was like fair enough but that's pretty sad.

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On Monday, everything came to a head.

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We'd had a really horrendous weekend with Charlotte

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I'd said to Charlotte, enough's enough, don't bother coming back today.

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That's it, because I don't want to argue with her any more.

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Right now, I just don't even want to see her.

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I don't really want to go back home, I don't think I'd even be allowed.

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I feel happier anyway, just not coming home to a stressful house

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where it's all tense and stuff, so I do feel a lot better.

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Moving to her aunt's has improved other areas of Charlotte's life, too.

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Now that I'm staying here, I'm closer to Melanie's nursery

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so I'm going back to college full time now.

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I think she'll achieve anything she puts her mind to.

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Anything is possible with her,

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you've just got to work hard and stick to it. Dead proud of you, I am.

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The reason that I do what I do is because

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I don't want to turn out like my mum.

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She doesn't have a job, for whatever reason,

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but I want to try and get one because I know it was a pain in the bum

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seeing my mum sit around all day and it annoyed me so much so I don't want to do that.

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You've got to bear in mind that while Melanie is so young, you're not going to be able to work,

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but you are doing the right thing by bettering yourself.

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I've got that career choice that I want and I'm going to aim for it, even if I have got Melanie.

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-Yeah, and you can study to get that, can't you?

-Yeah.

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What do you think I should do next, move out or stay here with you?

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Well, I'd love to have you stay here with me, but it's room, isn't it?

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With eight people living in three bedrooms, social services have deemed the house overcrowded,

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so Charlotte's high priority on the housing waiting list.

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When I get my own place,

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depending on where I end up depends on whether I'll be able to stay at college and stuff,

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it could be harder than what it is now.

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In Yorkshire, Natasha's set a wedding date for later this year.

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-What kind of thing have you got in mind?

-A big, princessy one.

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Today, she's on a mission with her sister Bonnie to find her perfect dress.

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Huge layers, nets underneath.

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You've got all this beautiful beading at the top.

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Ahh, you look like a grown up now, you're not my baby sister, I can't poke you no more.

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I was surprised when I heard about the wedding.

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I guess it's when you find the right person, you're happy

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and if things change you can always get a divorce nowadays.

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You look like you're going to cry!

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Oh, come here! You all right? Look at your mum.

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It feels really weird because I didn't think I'd ever get married,

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I never wanted to, but now I just do.

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I've never felt this way that I do with Daryl

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so I'm guessing it just means he is the right man.

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Most people would think I'm stupid and I'm rushing into things.

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I don't feel as if I'm rushing into things,

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it's just one of those heat of the moment things and it feels right.

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-That dress is nice.

-Be nicer if it were puffier.

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Natasha is still waiting for her new home, but the wedding plans are on track, if not on budget.

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I want a big cake, a horse and carriage, big dress.

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Something not missed by Daryl, who's using his life savings to pay for the big day.

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I knew there was a lot you needed to finance and sort out,

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but it's more than I expected now, it just keeps getting worse and worse.

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Go and give you a bath.

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I'm feeling more of a family than when I first met Levi.

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I love them both to bits and I wouldn't want to replace them.

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I'm excited very much about my future with Natasha,

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having her and Levi and any future family that we may have.

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-Do you think we'll be like them old people, then?

-Hope so.

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I'm not exactly trying to get pregnant because I don't want to get pregnant yet,

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but if I do actually catch pregnant then I'd not get rid of it,

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I'd just work through it like I did Levi.

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It's one of my little dreams, having a relationship, getting married,

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having children and living my life.

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In North Wales, Charlotte and Melanie have moved again.

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My room is the one on the left above the door, with the big bay window.

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Their new home is close to both Melanie's nursery and Charlotte's college,

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but it's only temporary council accommodation in a converted hotel.

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You've got to get in through the front door within a minute or the alarms go off,

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you're not allowed visitors, you've got to be in at 12 o'clock at night,

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but it's a decent place.

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I just hope eventually we'll get back to speaking terms,

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that I can be part of her life and Melanie's. At the end of the day I'm still her mum.

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I still worry about her.

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I don't think we'll sort it out because she's stubborn, I'm stubborn

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and it's just not going to work, is it?

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But I miss my little brothers and my sister. Hopefully I'll still see them.

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Against the odds, Charlotte is back on track to finish her college course.

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I'm still aiming to be a police officer in the long run.

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I don't see why any young mum should not follow what they've always wanted to do.

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Just because they've got a kid it doesn't mean nothing, and they should carry on with their ideas for life.

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Next time, we meet Becky from Fife...

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-What's wrong?

-I'm tired, Mum.

-It's what it's like being a mum.

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He should have been in his bed ages ago.

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I would like her to bond better with Kenzie.

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-..and 15-year-old Davita.

-Church has been quite a big support at times.

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I think I just cried my way through the first two weeks.

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