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Brooke Shields is one of Hollywood's leading actresses.

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She found fame at a young age, starring in The Blue Lagoon, when she was only 14.

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Since then, she's had a successful film, television and modelling career, spanning four decades.

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I'm at the time in my life right now where I'm ready

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to really delve into my past.

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I know very little about my family.

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My mother never really talked about her side of the family that much.

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And I know very little about my father's side of the family.

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I've heard they are royalty.

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I don't know how far back that exotic side goes, or even if it's true.

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And I'm just ready to really find out the...nitty-gritty of where I came from.

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Brooke Shields was born in New York in 1965.

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Whenever anybody says, "Where are you from?"

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I immediately say, "New York."

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I'm a New Yorker.

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She still lives in New York City with her husband Chris

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and their daughters Rowan and Grier.

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We've, um, been lucky enough to build a great family life here in the city.

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But growing up for me, things were very different.

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Although I was close to both of my parents,

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they were divorced by the time I was five months old.

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My dad Frank remarried and eventually moved to Florida.

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He died in 2003.

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I basically grew up with my mom Teri

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who had dabbled in modelling herself.

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And she got me into the business by the time I was just 11 months old.

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The modelling led to movies and television and theatre.

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My parents could not be more different.

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They were the antithesis of one another.

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On one side, my dad, there was aristocracy

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and sort of old money and Park Avenue.

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And then my mom's side, which was working class

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and saving every dime and not spending anything.

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There was a difference between the two and I never knew where I belonged.

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Until recently, I hadn't thought of exploring my family history.

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But then, suddenly, everything was put into perspective.

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I've been alone all my life, in a way.

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I've sort of been this singular person,

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you know, with my mom, but my parents were divorced.

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When 9/11 happened, I was on Broadway,

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performing in Cabaret.

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So there was that career part of me

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and the, sort of, the ambition, and I didn't want to admit

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that anything existed before me.

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The whole world started when I came here.

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And all of a sudden, everything came to a halt.

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So many families lost everything.

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I just thought, "My God."

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I was brought out of myself

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and that made me really think about blood being thicker than water,

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something I never wanted to believe.

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All of a sudden,

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I was keenly aware of what I wanted to learn

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about who I was.

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I'm now about to go on this journey

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to find out where I came from.

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And it's a little scary.

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My dad passed away. My mom's not well enough now

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for me to discuss any of this with her.

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So, the person I always go to is my best friend Lisa.

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We basically grew up together.

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She's really truly like my family -

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my "go to person", when I'm doing something important in my life.

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So, there's my dad and my mum

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with me individually.

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-Are your parents still together in that picture?

-No.

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They're divorced. Divorced.

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-That could have been your weekend with either one and...

-Yeah.

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-It could have been the same weekend.

-The drop-off in the parking lot!

-That was!

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LAUGHTER

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Which side of the family do you identify with?

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It is so, as this picture, spilt down the middle.

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And I'll go into one and I'll think, "I don't fit in here.

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"I have to go back to the other one."

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I'll go in here, "I don't fit in here, they don't understand me."

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All my life I have flip-flopped, so I can't answer as to which one.

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It used to frustrate the hell out of me.

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(Wow!)

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There it is. My mother and her mother.

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-You know how I feel about my grandmother.

-Yes.

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I can't say that I'm a fan.

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My grandmother was so mad, I think, that her husband died.

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-And never got over it.

-Never got over it.

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I had such resentment for her.

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I just... I hated her.

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And why? Because I saw the way she would treat my mom.

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Just snide remarks all the time.

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And she never would want to give my mom credit.

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You couldn't so much as say, "Boo" to my mother and I'd want to kill you.

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-You know that.

-Yeah.

-You've seen it.

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So, there was this, sort of, fierce protection of my mother.

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I think my grandmother was horrible to my mother

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and I started disliking her at a very young age.

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And the stronger the bond with my mother became,

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the more I resented her mother.

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My mom wanted a different life.

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The minute she could, she left Newark.

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That was something my grandmother never could do.

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My sympathy for my grandmother, my empathy, has always been sort of tainted

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by, "But how could you treat Mom like this?"

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I don't like having that feeling in my heart,

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of just...of just bitterness.

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And I wonder if knowing anything about where she came from would help me understand

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how that affected my mother.

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I'm leaving New York,

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which I never really do in my heart.

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I want to find out more about my grandmother's...

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life and her family.

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So I'm on my way to New Jersey.

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I haven't been back for a long time.

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My early connection with New Jersey, I've blanked out. If you ask me about New Jersey, I'll just say,

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"I went to college in New Jersey."

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I was a French Literature major.

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I have replaced all memories of New Jersey with my education.

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I don't know anything about my grandmother's life, her family, her parents.

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I just, I want to like my grandmother.

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What made her the type of person

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who gets bitter, and sad, and afraid, and not...

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you know, what was in her character that came from her...upbringing?

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All I know about my grandmother is that

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she had a sister, Lillian.

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Brooke's grandmother Theresa Dollinger

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was born in 1908,

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and Theresa's sister Lillian in 1915.

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Brooke's come to the New Jersey State Archive

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to meet genealogy expert, Michelle Chubenko.

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They're looking for the birth certificates of Theresa and Lillian.

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All right.

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I'm hoping they might give me some clues

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about my grandmother's early life.

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-Oh.

-Oh. Doll...

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Ooh, ooh, ooh, wait, wait.

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Theresa.

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My grandmother's birth certificate doesn't tell me much.

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All it really tells me is that her mom's name is Ida

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and she was born in Newark like my mom.

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But what about her sister Lillian's birth certificate?

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Um, so Lillian Elizabeth Dollinger.

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Born the 26th of September, 1915.

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Wait.

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Number of children in all by this marriage, four?

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So...my grandmother had three siblings.

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Which just...

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I've only known her to have one sibling.

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I'm just in shock that there were two more siblings.

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I've never heard of these other brothers or sisters before.

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But Michelle has found their birth certificates.

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So John...

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There was a John William Dollinger.

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OK, so that's John.

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So there was a girl, a boy, a girl.

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OK, but you're gonna need to make room between these two because

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there's an Edward William.

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-Edward.

-Mm-hmm.

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Number of children living... two.

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Mm-hmm.

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So we know she's alive, so he had to have died.

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Brooke now knows her grandmother, Theresa had two brothers.

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John died in infancy when Theresa was only two,

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so she probably didn't remember him.

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But what happened to Edward?

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And now there's this boy, this second boy,

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Edward William Dollinger, younger than my grandmother.

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But doesn't seem to die because

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by the time we get to Lillian, the numbers still make sense.

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Mm-hmm.

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OK. I want to know Edward now.

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I want to know this guy.

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I want to find out more. SHE LAUGHS

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I want to get in there now, I want to...

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This is... It's just,

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you feel like you're a detective of some kind.

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Brooke's on her way to Newark, New Jersey,

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where her grandmother was born and raised.

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Theresa's family, the Dollingers, were German immigrants,

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who came to America in the mid-19th century.

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Brooke hopes that Newark historian Tom McCabe can explain more about this immigrant neighbourhood.

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There's been a lot of jokes about Newark over the years

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and one of them is, what's the best view of Newark?

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The one you get in your rear-view mirror when you drive away.

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SHE LAUGHS Oh, no!

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I think one of the great views of Newark is just down here,

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this is Ferry Street - the spine, the nerve centre of this immigrant neighbourhood.

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I found this picture from 1910, which, as you can see...

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This is the same view! I love that!

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At this time, very much a German influence - Slazenger Shoes.

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You have some Italian influence in this picture as well.

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So all sorts of new immigrants came into this neighbourhood to try to establish themselves first.

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Em, you had the Irish coming here, initially, followed by the Germans.

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Of course, the Dollingers would have been part of that immigration.

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This was taken in 1910.

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My grandmother... Where was my grandmother?

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At this time, just over your right shoulder -

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she would have been living right over here,

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at the corner store.

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-At Easy Pickins?

-At Easy Pickins.

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-She was living at Easy Pickins?

-Yes.

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So this is, er, you know, a streetscape

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that she would have been very familiar with.

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Oh, that's amazing.

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Two of her siblings were born across the street

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here at 148 and a half.

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Uh, it is now the Banco Popular.

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Lillian and Edward were born right across the street. They moved around quite a bit...

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Why would they have moved?

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They'll be moving, looking for the best rent out of necessity.

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Those at the lower part of the economic ladder will be the most vulnerable,

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most insecure and they'll have to move the most.

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So they would have packed up all their earthly belongings

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and walked them down the stairs and down the block and moved to the next place,

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one step ahead of the rent or the landlord.

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Right, right.

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Tom has a map showing Newark at the time when Brooke's grandmother Theresa Dollinger was growing up.

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I wanted to show you my favourite map of this city.

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-Wow!

-It's from 1911.

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This highlighted portion is where we walked.

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We walked this portion, so here is giving you

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these small, self-contained towns almost.

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So you have the Germans here and the Italians down there.

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You have these ethnic concentrations, so it's very much

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a working-class city and you came here and settled with your own.

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And two out of every three Newarkers were either foreign-born

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or the sons and daughters of immigrants,

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so it was very much an immigrants' city when the Dollingers were here.

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Two out of three?

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It's an amazing...

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I found something I wanted to share with you.

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I think it sums up your...

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family's story quite well

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and it's Philip Roth, Newark's great novelist,

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and he's talking about

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immigrant America.

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It starts there.

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"As a family, they still flew the flight of the immigrant rocket,

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"the upward, unbroken immigrant trajectory

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"from slave-driven great-grandfather to self-driven grandfather

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"to self-confident, accomplished, independent father

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"to the highest high flier of them all,

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"the fourth-generation child for whom America was to be heaven itself."

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Wow!

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So that would be your heavenly existence,

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but built on the shoulders and the backs

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of the Dollingers.

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I do get the feeling that the rules don't seem to apply in the same way to my generation.

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We CAN pursue, basically, whatever we want. We're not confined to

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just what's in our immediate vicinity.

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I agree with that.

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"The flight of the immigrant rocket." I love that!

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I feel that immigrant rocket took off and...I'm the one that benefited.

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I think that I never

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really...looked at my history

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as something that truly, deeply affected me.

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Life here was ordinary.

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Well, it... It's about as ordinary as it gets

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and yet it feels extraordinary to me

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because it was MY family.

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I grew up in a very different world

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than my grandmother.

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I really am beginning to understand

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how hard it must have been for her.

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Brooke's meeting Michelle Chubenko again,

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who's found more information about Theresa and her brother Edward.

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I did additional research,

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and I want to share those documents with you today.

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-OK.

-This one may begin to answer some more of your questions about your grandmother.

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OK.

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This is Ida's death certificate.

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So this was Theresa's mom.

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Date of death, January 12, 1919?

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-Yes.

-She died at 38.

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She died of cancer. Uterine cancer.

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Uterine cancer.

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At 38. God.

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So my grandmother lost her mother when she was...

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-Ten.

-Ten

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-That'll do it.

-That'll do it.

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My grandmother then really did have to be a parent to...

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To her younger sibling.

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From the time that she was...

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that my grandmother was a little kid,

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she had to be an adult.

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Yeah.

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Really be an adult.

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So I do have one more document for you.

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We have a certificate of death for Edward.

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Oh, my God.

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This is him.

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Accidental drowning while she was taking care of him,

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presumably, where she was... There was no mom.

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-There was no...yeah.

-There was no mom.

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13 years old, one month, 15 days.

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Yes.

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Trade Profession - Schoolboy.

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Mm-hmm.

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That's...wow. My, my, my. OK.

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SHE CLEARS HER THROAT

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Her younger brother that she was a mother to

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for eight years, basically.

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So it's like she lost a son as well as a brother.

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Yeah.

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Man, she didn't have it easy.

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This is deep loss.

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Your heart, then,

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just goes out...to her, you know?

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Michelle gave me an article on Edward's drowning,

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so I've come to the very spot where the incident occurred.

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"The drowning of Edward Dollinger

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"of 215 North 4th Street

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"was attributed to the heat.

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"He and other boys, pupils of Lincoln school,

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"had gone in bathing in the Passaic River.

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"Dollinger could not swim.

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"As he was sinking, Joseph Weznick

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"grabbed him, but lost his hold.

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"The body was recovered by the police

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"near the scene of the drowning."

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Loss after loss after loss,

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it takes a toll on, you know, your soul.

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I don't think she could have healed from all these wounds, one after the other.

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It's sad. It's really, really sad.

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I understand my grandmother now.

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I understand how she could resent my mother.

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She was the oldest and she then

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had to take care of the family.

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My mom was the oldest and she ran away.

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I have empathy for her and I...

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and I don't mind having it.

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Now that Brooke has found some answers about her mother's family,

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she's returned to New York to research her father Frank's

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very different family history.

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My dad died in 2003,

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and we never really spoke much about his family history.

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So I don't really know much about his side of the family.

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I do know that they were aristocrats.

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I do know that his mother was named Marina Torlonia,

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and that supposedly is a big name in Rome.

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Some Italian...um, I don't know if it's nobility,

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I have no real idea.

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I've seen snippets of pictures,

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but I really want to know how far they go back,

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and really where my father came from.

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Brooke has come to the New York Historical Society

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to meet genealogist Gary Boyd Roberts.

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-Hi.

-Hello, nice to meet you.

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He's prepared a family tree that traces the Torlonia line,

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back from her father's mother, Marina,

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to the most prominent Torlonia of all, Giovanni,

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an 18th century banker.

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This one is a banker to the Vatican.

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-Wow.

-Like, say, the Rothschilds, or other European families,

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they begin supplying kings with whatever's necessary

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for wars or what have you.

0:21:190:21:20

How fascinating. Really?

0:21:200:21:22

Yes, they made so much money, they could marry into the high nobility.

0:21:220:21:26

That already is exciting to me.

0:21:260:21:29

But we haven't gone any further up here.

0:21:290:21:32

-That's right.

-His father...

0:21:320:21:33

so he was basically... well, he's a clock merchant.

0:21:330:21:36

-And then...

-And that is...

0:21:360:21:39

-So it stops there?

-Yes.

0:21:390:21:40

His origin is really unknown.

0:21:400:21:42

It's thought that he may have changed the name.

0:21:420:21:45

Torlonia is not an ancient Italian name.

0:21:450:21:48

Ooh.

0:21:480:21:50

Where did they come from to get to there?

0:21:520:21:56

You know, I mean, you found the bank,

0:21:560:21:59

but where was his father?

0:21:590:22:02

And where did his mother come from?

0:22:020:22:05

I want to know what came before Marino Torlonia.

0:22:050:22:10

I want to know more.

0:22:100:22:13

Brooke is travelling to Rome

0:22:130:22:16

where her ancestor Giovanni Torlonia was the banker to the Vatican.

0:22:160:22:22

In the 18th century,

0:22:220:22:24

Rome was one of the most important cities in Europe,

0:22:240:22:27

a focal point of European culture, religion and commerce.

0:22:270:22:31

So, I've come to Rome to find out more about

0:22:320:22:37

my father's side of the family, the Torlonias.

0:22:370:22:39

I want to know how they got so powerful.

0:22:390:22:43

I would love it if I could have told him

0:22:430:22:45

something that he didn't know.

0:22:450:22:47

You know, cos I really don't know how much he knew.

0:22:470:22:52

I think, more than anything,

0:22:520:22:53

I think he would have been proud that I cared to do this,

0:22:530:22:58

to make this effort.

0:22:580:23:00

Brooke knows that her ancestors Giovanni and Marino Torlonia

0:23:020:23:07

bought their way into the nobility,

0:23:070:23:10

but that they started as cloth merchants.

0:23:100:23:13

She's come to the Via Condotti, to meet Daniela Felisini,

0:23:160:23:21

who's written a book about the origins of the Torlonias.

0:23:210:23:25

So what do we have here? What is this?

0:23:270:23:29

Here, at the first floor,

0:23:290:23:32

there was, in the beginning, a small textile shop and later

0:23:320:23:37

textile and, let's say, small bank.

0:23:370:23:41

And at the end, only the bank.

0:23:410:23:42

That little bank grew into a big bank.

0:23:420:23:46

-Yes, yes.

-OK.

0:23:460:23:47

Giovanni was a very good entrepreneur.

0:23:470:23:50

He has some sort of intelligence for business, for information,

0:23:500:23:57

-for...he knows the keys of a business.

-Right.

0:23:570:24:02

At the end of the 18th century,

0:24:060:24:08

when Giovanni was establishing the bank,

0:24:080:24:10

Napoleon and the French Army conquered northern Italy,

0:24:100:24:14

creating an opportunity that Giovanni took advantage of.

0:24:140:24:18

When the French Army arrived in Rome, at the end of the 18th century,

0:24:180:24:25

he is supplier of the Army, of the French Army,

0:24:250:24:29

and at the same time, the official Pope banker,

0:24:290:24:35

but, above all, he built up the first private bank in Italy.

0:24:350:24:39

Not only Rome, but in Italy.

0:24:390:24:41

He has branches in almost all the towns in Italy

0:24:450:24:49

and also in Switzerland and France and Austria.

0:24:490:24:53

God, he's a smart guy.

0:24:530:24:55

But later, he has to build an identity as a member of Rome aristocracy.

0:24:550:25:01

So, he bought important properties,

0:25:010:25:04

-one of them is not far from here in Rome.

-Oh, really?

0:25:040:25:10

Oh, my God, it's beautiful.

0:25:160:25:19

Can you imagine living here?

0:25:210:25:25

Oh, my gosh!

0:25:250:25:27

It's like a...

0:25:270:25:29

Well, it is...a palace.

0:25:290:25:32

We arrive now at Villa Torlonia,

0:25:360:25:38

the summer house of the family. Giovanni bought the property

0:25:380:25:44

from a very ancient Roman family.

0:25:440:25:46

-This is the ballroom for the party.

-This is the ballroom?

0:25:460:25:50

Just extraordinary. Look at the carving.

0:25:530:25:58

All the angels and all of the...

0:25:580:26:01

Oh! Look!

0:26:010:26:03

And here, there is a sort of gallery of portraits of writers

0:26:080:26:13

and kings and queens.

0:26:130:26:16

Oh, my gosh.

0:26:160:26:18

It's just stunning.

0:26:180:26:22

And also, Mussolini lived in the villa.

0:26:240:26:28

-For real?!

-Yeah.

0:26:280:26:29

Because Torlonia family rented to him

0:26:290:26:34

-for a symbolic, erm...

-Really?

-Yes.

0:26:340:26:38

-So, Mussolini paid rent?!

-Yes!

-To my family?!

-Yes!

-SHE LAUGHS

0:26:380:26:43

Why not?! OK!

0:26:430:26:45

I'm intrigued about Giovanni's origins.

0:26:450:26:48

What did he come from that he was able to be

0:26:480:26:51

that focused, that ambitious, and that smart?

0:26:510:26:54

And you have to have a certain kind of character,

0:26:540:26:58

and I wonder where he came from to get that character?

0:26:580:27:00

Daniela has discovered a document

0:27:000:27:03

on Giovanni's father - Marino -

0:27:030:27:06

that might finally tell me where the Torlonias came from.

0:27:060:27:10

We have a wedding certificate of Marino Torlonia.

0:27:100:27:14

He came from Giralo,

0:27:140:27:17

with maybe the Italian transcription,

0:27:170:27:22

of a name of a town in France.

0:27:220:27:26

Because we see Giralo is Italian for Augerolles.

0:27:260:27:30

-He's French origin.

-So, he's French origin.

0:27:300:27:34

-Yes.

-It's French origin.

0:27:340:27:36

That is fascinating to me.

0:27:360:27:39

I'm shocked at that.

0:27:390:27:41

There's this other side of my brain

0:27:410:27:43

which is just so French, so comfortable in France.

0:27:430:27:47

I even majored in French Literature.

0:27:470:27:50

So maybe that was it.

0:27:500:27:51

Somewhere deep inside, I knew that there was a...

0:27:510:27:56

something in my,

0:27:560:27:57

in my make-up that came from France.

0:27:570:28:01

Now I want to go farther back and find out

0:28:010:28:05

where he came from.

0:28:050:28:07

To find out more about her ancestor Marino Torlonia's French ancestry,

0:28:130:28:17

she's headed to the town of Augerolles in central France.

0:28:170:28:21

To go from a cloth merchant to a successful banker...

0:28:270:28:31

I want to know what made him so driven.

0:28:310:28:33

Where does that come from? Where does it start?

0:28:330:28:35

Where's the germ of that?

0:28:350:28:37

What was his childhood like? Where were his parents?

0:28:370:28:41

And why leave France?

0:28:410:28:43

I'm hoping that historian Carene Rabilloud

0:28:500:28:53

will be able to tell me if Marino Torlonia

0:28:530:28:56

was actually born here.

0:28:560:28:58

And so my question is, did he come from France?

0:28:580:29:02

Was he born here? Did he just come here? How...?

0:29:020:29:05

I have the pleasure to show you

0:29:050:29:08

the birth of your ancestor, Marin Torlonia, in France.

0:29:080:29:13

And I have the pleasure to show the document of his birth.

0:29:130:29:19

It's very, very old, very fragile.

0:29:190:29:21

And you can read. It was baptism, Marin Torlonias,

0:29:210:29:27

son of Antoine Torlonias.

0:29:270:29:32

You're telling me they're French?

0:29:320:29:35

Yes.

0:29:350:29:36

Like French French.

0:29:360:29:38

French French, yes. Really French.

0:29:380:29:40

-Really French, OK.

-Yes.

0:29:400:29:41

Not just in name, but in blood.

0:29:410:29:44

-Yes.

-OK, wow.

0:29:440:29:46

Well, so he was born here in France.

0:29:460:29:49

That's amazing.

0:29:490:29:51

So Marino Torlonia

0:29:510:29:53

was actually born Marin Torlonias

0:29:530:29:56

in rural France in 1725.

0:29:560:29:59

So how did Marin get to Rome?

0:29:590:30:02

Because the priest of this church was the grand uncle of Marin,

0:30:020:30:07

the priest was appointed by the very famous abbot,

0:30:070:30:12

so Marin became the servant of the abbot.

0:30:120:30:16

Carene told me a fascinating story

0:30:160:30:19

about how the abbot had been sentenced

0:30:190:30:23

to be under house arrest for evidently being a spy.

0:30:230:30:26

Marin helped mastermind the escape.

0:30:260:30:32

They went all through Europe hiding in various churches

0:30:320:30:36

and ending up in Rome.

0:30:360:30:38

That's when Marin changed his name to Marino

0:30:380:30:42

and basically my Italian heritage

0:30:420:30:45

now begins in Rome.

0:30:450:30:47

So let's go back a little bit.

0:30:490:30:52

-His parents stayed here.

-Yes.

0:30:520:30:54

We have found the house of the family Torlonias

0:30:540:30:59

just five kilometres from Augerolles.

0:30:590:31:03

-Here?

-In Marat.

0:31:030:31:05

-Hah!

-Yes.

0:31:050:31:06

You did? You found THE house?

0:31:060:31:07

-Yes. THE house.

-OK!

0:31:070:31:09

-THE house.

-Wow.

0:31:090:31:11

Of the family Torlonias.

0:31:110:31:14

So I think Dad would have been

0:31:170:31:19

very excited about this.

0:31:190:31:22

IMITATING FATHER: You went all the way out there? What did you do that for?

0:31:220:31:25

SHE LAUGHS

0:31:250:31:28

And then...but he'd love it.

0:31:280:31:29

He'd love it. Maybe I'll get to tell him one day.

0:31:290:31:33

We can hear the snow crunching under our feet.

0:31:470:31:53

We're going to where Marin's parents lived.

0:31:550:32:00

This is the house that he most likely lived

0:32:000:32:04

with his parents and his siblings.

0:32:040:32:07

This is it.

0:32:070:32:10

This is the house that he lived in

0:32:170:32:20

almost 300 years ago before he left for Italy.

0:32:200:32:24

It's very simple, humble beginnings.

0:32:240:32:30

But how enterprising... To start here and end up

0:32:300:32:36

arguably one of the most powerful families

0:32:360:32:40

in Rome.

0:32:400:32:42

I like that this is where he started,

0:32:440:32:45

and then when you look at the palace and the museum

0:32:450:32:48

and how opulent Giovanni made that

0:32:480:32:51

and how he went...I mean, basically, he came from this.

0:32:510:32:56

They sort of invaded aristocracy, and they invaded nobility,

0:32:580:33:03

and they claimed it.

0:33:030:33:05

And you think that this is where it all began.

0:33:050:33:08

This is where he left this, to find a new world.

0:33:080:33:13

And he found it.

0:33:130:33:15

This is one of my favourite parts of the journey.

0:33:150:33:18

Just because it feels like this was where it all started.

0:33:180:33:22

I'm shocked of the French origin of all of this.

0:33:220:33:25

Maybe it's a long shot,

0:33:250:33:27

but why would I have decided to study French

0:33:270:33:29

of all things, you know, at college?

0:33:290:33:32

And so it's kind of exciting to see that

0:33:320:33:35

there is a connection somewhere

0:33:350:33:36

between me and that language and my ancestry.

0:33:360:33:39

I mean, I feel linked to this family.

0:33:430:33:46

And it's...it's a great feeling

0:33:460:33:48

because I never knew any of it existed.

0:33:480:33:51

The scroll I was given has been invaluable.

0:34:030:34:06

I found out all I can about the Torlonias.

0:34:060:34:10

Now, I'm using it to explore another branch

0:34:100:34:12

of my father's family that stretches back

0:34:120:34:14

more than 400 years.

0:34:140:34:16

All the way at the top of the other side of the scroll

0:34:160:34:19

is an intriguing figure, Christine Marie.

0:34:190:34:23

She has the title underneath her of Madame Royale.

0:34:230:34:27

Um, sort of want to know

0:34:270:34:29

how is she connected to all this.

0:34:290:34:31

She's the only one that has the word "Royale"

0:34:310:34:33

after her name, so...

0:34:330:34:36

and not being satisfied without the least bit

0:34:360:34:39

of royal blood in my veins, I must find out about her.

0:34:390:34:44

OK, Christine Marie... Marie de France.

0:34:480:34:52

OK, she was born in...at the Palais du Louvre.

0:34:520:34:57

Palais du... The Louvre?

0:34:570:34:59

She was born in the Louvre? Is that possible?!

0:34:590:35:02

Can you be born in the Louvre?

0:35:020:35:04

The Palais du Louvre in Paris,

0:35:040:35:08

on the right bank of the Seine

0:35:080:35:10

is a former royal palace.

0:35:100:35:12

So she was born in the Louvre.

0:35:120:35:14

That's wild! SHE LAUGHS

0:35:140:35:17

So there is royal blood in there.

0:35:190:35:23

We need to go to chez Marie.

0:35:230:35:26

AKA the Louvre. SHE LAUGHS

0:35:260:35:29

Brooke has come to the Louvre,

0:35:380:35:40

today, one of the most famous museums in the world.

0:35:400:35:45

-Hello, there.

-Hi.

-Let me find you a seat.

0:35:450:35:47

Pleasure, thank you.

0:35:470:35:49

She's meeting genealogist Charles Mosley,

0:35:490:35:52

an expert in royal families.

0:35:520:35:55

That's Christine, or Christine Marie up there.

0:35:550:35:57

Madame Royale.

0:35:570:35:59

Christine Marie, she was born in the Louvre.

0:35:590:36:01

She was born in the Louvre.

0:36:010:36:04

And there's a document here

0:36:040:36:07

detailing her baptism.

0:36:070:36:10

Her father was Henry IV, your ancestor.

0:36:100:36:16

Do you know who Henry IV was?

0:36:160:36:18

Apart from the fact that he was the King of France.

0:36:180:36:21

Not much more than that he was the king of France.

0:36:210:36:22

Well, he is the founder of the Bourbon dynasty,

0:36:220:36:25

which everybody thinks of as the classic French dynasty

0:36:250:36:27

because it remained the French dynasty

0:36:270:36:30

until the revolution.

0:36:300:36:31

And he was a great lover.

0:36:310:36:33

He had many mistresses, many illegitimate children.

0:36:330:36:35

But he also continued the line of the kings of France,

0:36:350:36:39

which was very important in those days. And Henry IV and his successors

0:36:390:36:43

were the greatest experts in building up the prestige

0:36:430:36:47

of the monarchy, the French monarchy.

0:36:470:36:49

Which is why France still retains

0:36:490:36:50

its terrific prestige that it does today.

0:36:500:36:52

Where we're sitting now is a huge building

0:36:520:36:54

overlooking a vast courtyard much bigger than

0:36:540:36:57

anything we have in Britain.

0:36:570:36:59

And it is the great palace in which Henry IV,

0:36:590:37:02

your ancestor, lived.

0:37:020:37:04

Wow.

0:37:040:37:06

This is Saint-Denis.

0:37:100:37:12

It's where the remains of the kings of France

0:37:120:37:14

are kept in sort of honourable retirement.

0:37:140:37:18

-Look at that. Isn't that stupendous?

-Beautiful!

0:37:220:37:25

-Here we are.

-OK.

0:37:300:37:32

This chamber here contains the hearts

0:37:320:37:34

of some of the kings of France.

0:37:340:37:36

-Now let's try and open that gate.

-Oh.

-Do you want to push it,

0:37:360:37:39

-or shall I?

-Oh, OK. My knees are weak.

0:37:390:37:41

-OK.

-There you've got the hearts of various kings of France.

0:37:440:37:49

Your ancestor, Henry IV, he is in the middle row,

0:37:490:37:53

on the far left.

0:37:530:37:54

-Yes, indeed.

-(Can I touch it?)

0:37:540:37:58

Ooh, God.

0:37:580:38:00

Get in trouble. But I have to do it.

0:38:010:38:03

Yeah, I think you're right. No, no, no.

0:38:030:38:05

-If anybody's entitled to...

-Wooh!

-I...well, I don't know.

0:38:050:38:08

It's your property

0:38:080:38:09

-more than anybody else's around here.

-I've just touched Henry IV's heart.

0:38:090:38:13

Do you feel better? More solemn? More wise? More...

0:38:130:38:18

It's just extraordinary that this even exists,

0:38:180:38:21

and the fact that there's a connection that I honestly have to it.

0:38:210:38:26

It's...I do feel awestruck about it.

0:38:260:38:29

It just keeps getting better. Like, I keep thinking,

0:38:290:38:31

"Oh, this is the culmination of it," you know.

0:38:310:38:33

It can't be better than this.

0:38:330:38:34

What more could possibly be revealed to me? I...

0:38:340:38:37

at this point, I've stopped even trying

0:38:370:38:40

to figure it out, I can't imagine.

0:38:400:38:42

Here's Henry IV, your ancestor,

0:38:530:38:56

who I hope you're not yet bored with.

0:38:560:38:58

Oh, no. SHE LAUGHS

0:38:580:38:59

Um, but yet another depiction of him,

0:38:590:39:01

perhaps the best of the lot

0:39:010:39:02

in as much as it's three-dimensional.

0:39:020:39:05

And now let us turn to his much more famous grandson,

0:39:050:39:09

Louis XIV.

0:39:090:39:11

He built this vast palace in which we are now, Versailles.

0:39:110:39:14

This man, the most powerful king of his time,

0:39:140:39:17

perhaps of all time, certainly the greatest,

0:39:170:39:20

most glorious king in European history,

0:39:200:39:22

is your first cousin, many generations removed.

0:39:220:39:26

I...I... that's all too much.

0:39:260:39:30

No matter where you turn, I'm connected somehow.

0:39:300:39:32

-Exactly, you are connected.

-I am connected.

0:39:320:39:34

I DO feel connected. You made me feel...

0:39:340:39:35

You're even more connected, as you'll find out in a minute.

0:39:350:39:38

That is the Battle Of Taillebourg,

0:39:400:39:43

won by Saint Louis, your direct ancestor.

0:39:430:39:46

So you're looking at about 25 generations back from you.

0:39:460:39:49

He is the French king from whom Henry IV descends.

0:39:490:39:53

He is the father of all those kings of France.

0:39:530:39:57

And on top of that, he's a saint.

0:39:570:39:59

Not that usual for a king to be a saint.

0:39:590:40:02

-It's extraordinary.

-Yeah.

0:40:020:40:05

Yesterday, you were looking at

0:40:050:40:07

the small remains of your ancestor.

0:40:070:40:10

Today you're seeing a pictorial representation.

0:40:100:40:13

A representation that brings out the drama,

0:40:130:40:16

the glory, and I suppose one has to say

0:40:160:40:19

the glamour.

0:40:190:40:20

-And the passion.

-Oh, yes, absolutely.

0:40:200:40:23

Wow.

0:40:230:40:24

It's...that's fascinating to me, it's fascinating.

0:40:240:40:28

Here, we have Hugh.

0:40:310:40:36

-And he is your direct ancestor also.

-How?

-Although he lived over 1,000 years ago.

0:40:360:40:41

Because he's an ancestor of Saint Louis, who we've discussed already.

0:40:410:40:45

Well, how do you feel, then?

0:40:450:40:48

Um, now...now I'm awestruck.

0:40:480:40:51

It's pretty impressive.

0:40:510:40:53

I mean, I've come across quite a few extraordinary genealogical links.

0:40:530:40:56

Never anything like this. A saint, a pope.

0:40:560:40:58

You come from some good popes too. Paul III. He wasn't a bad pope.

0:40:580:41:04

He wasn't good enough, of course, to, erm...how can I say? Keep his trousers on!

0:41:040:41:08

But you have a saint in the family, and you have a great king,

0:41:080:41:12

and you have a still greater king,

0:41:120:41:14

and you've got Philip II, who's not a bad king,

0:41:140:41:16

Charles V, a great emperor, Ferdinand, another emperor.

0:41:160:41:21

You've got it all!

0:41:210:41:22

-I've got it all.

-Everything.

-SHE LAUGHS

0:41:220:41:25

I'm not sure what to do with it, but...

0:41:250:41:27

-Well, guard it carefully.

-Enjoy it, I will, I guard it.

0:41:270:41:30

I will guard it with my heart. Thank you.

0:41:300:41:32

This has been an amazing exploration

0:41:380:41:41

of both sides of my family.

0:41:410:41:43

Being able to sort of find your place

0:41:430:41:47

in the grand scheme of things,

0:41:470:41:50

there's something empowering about it.

0:41:500:41:53

What's so funny about these two pictures,

0:41:550:41:58

I always asked myself the question,

0:41:580:42:00

who was I more like? Which side did I belong on?

0:42:000:42:04

And I felt the need to define it.

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I used to feel that I was always sort of

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one foot in each door, sort of straddling this fence.

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And after this whole journey, I feel much more deeply connected

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with the European side as well as with the American side.

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It's been very freeing to me

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to realise that I don't have to solely come from one side.

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I'm just looking forward to imparting what I've learned

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and telling my children where we all came from.

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And even if they don't fully understand it now,

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this'll be a huge piece of their puzzle.

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I do feel part of something bigger,

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and now the desire that I have

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to share it with my daughters is even stronger.

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